@amessenger4god Lucifer rebelled because YAWHEH was an evil tyrant...according to your own bible...god killed over 2 million people including women and babies and animals! Satan 10 ..under gods orders! ex. of yawheh s ethics 2 Samuel: Chapter 11: 1. David Commits Adultery with Bathsheba. 2. David has Uriah Killed; Chapter 12: 3 gods orders the husband killed so it s not adultery...u jews ..christians and muslims are all sick people! evil and immoral ! AVE LUCIFER!
you guys are missing the point once you really feel GOD'S Precence anlround you there won't be a doubt in your mind he's there and you will be rewarded for your hardship and even when you don't you have to keep pushing yourself towards him and you will rediscover him he loves you but are you willing to go against the world to love him back
i also believe the God allowed thier fight to happen to show fairness. if he would have just snapped his fingers as soon as lucifer got out of line it would be more like a dictatorship and God is not a dictator
Jesus the messager of Hell on Earth he is the child of evil, the child of ruin, Jesus Christ is the deadly opponent against knowledge, wisdom and truth, and the opponent against love, peace, respect and harmony. It is the Anti-Logos in manifold form. It is the force of evil, the 666, which is against the truth of Creation, against the truth of the Spirit and against the obedience to the laws and commandments. No MORE LIES!!! Go read the book Talmud Jmmanuel!!
@ELAxscorpion God is the only self-existent being and thus has no source. He simply is ("I AM that I AM"). Only beings/things that exist within time need to come from somewhere. God exists outside of time... in fact, He created time itself.
@ELAxscorpion look at it this way what do you loose by being christian and trying to live your life in the right way? if christians were wrong then what nothing happens. but if what if they're right? i would hate to be condemned because i didnt have any faith. if im wrong then im wrong and then there will be nothing after you die but if im right then i'm right and there is one then i will be rewaded in heaven if i lived right. there's no loosing
@cOmPtOnTV1 I like that reply very much. But I still don't feel the need to give in. You made an amazing point, I'm the see to believe type of guy and what you just said very much so made sense. Yet still i don't think it makes sense to follow someones norms when you don't even know if you will indeed be rewarded in the end.
@ELAxscorpion put it this way. its like doing something for your moms just because its right. you hope to get rewarded but even if you dont its fine. there's still a chance of it though. but by not doing anything whether you're right or not you wont get rewarded. im not what u would call religious im more into statistics.
i'll take my chances in being wrong and have a chance of having a reward then to not at all and have no chance at all.
@ELAxscorpion now i agree alot of people are religious fanatics but im what you will call a realistic that believes in God. mainly because i feel science has not gave me a logical answer as to how we got here, the bible has been correct about so many things, and also like i said before what am i loosing by doing this? think about. im not saying listen to every person holding a bible and claim to know God. do like do do your research and come with your own beliefs to what u believe is right.
@amessenger4god but how can a human, with the power of the greatest thing in the world, a brain? not understand that something needs to come from something AKA god must be made from something, it must hurt your brain excepting that god is just yeah hes there you know no one made him , he is just is????!?! WTFFFF
@TheVga1991 You're missing the critical reason why God does not need to come from something: ONLY things that begin to exist must have a cause. Planets, stars, and you and I began to exist, therefore we need a cause to explain our existence, but this is only because we exist within time. God CREATED time itself and thus the question, "Where did God come from?" is illogical, because God: 1.) Created time and exists apart from time, and 2.) never began to exist because He is self-existent.
@amessenger4god I'm not trying to hate i wish i could believe that but i just don't something (anything) must come from something it can't simply exist, even when time is involved, it still must hurt you head, how can something just be???????
Because just as it is our nature to come from something because we exist within time, it is God's nature to simply "be" because He exists outside of time.
The Illuminati, who sold their souls for Lucifer, have an obligation to teach the world the wrong names of the Trinity. The purpose of this is so you condemn yourself upon judgment. When Christ asks "Who do you say that I am?" make sure and tell others to answer, :"You are God."
If you give the Illuminati answer, "You are the son of a talking fire (the Lord)," you will quickly find out what Freemasonry has done to you and you will have an eternity to think about it. fatimamovement d o t c o m
ok answer me this if god was all know then he knew that lucifer was going to wage war in heaven why did he have michael fight him why didnt God snap his fingers and make lucifer disappear God wanted a devil if God created good then he also created evil. and free will haha there is no free will if you dont obey God you get banish from paradise thats what happen to Lucifer you dont obey you get banish
@jimmysnake007 God didn't create evil. We did (and so did satan). God allows evil to exist, but He did not create it. Evil, by definition, is just the absence of good. Evil is everything that is opposite and contrary to God. God cannot create anything contrary to Himself.
God doesn't just "snap his fingers". That's not the kind of God He is. God allows things to happen. He gives us free will. He allows us to choose right from wrong and to love freely.
@amessenger4god You are so correct. What most all of you miss is that free will plays a role in all this. Free will regarding Lucifer's fall, free will regarding Adam and Eve's transgression, free will in accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior. The Lord does not want a relationship with mindless puppets. He wants a relationship with ones who understand right from wrong, and accept him. He does not force any of his creations to blindly love him.
@hellhunter65 God can do whatever is logical. Creating evil is illogical and contrary to God's nature. It is impossible for God to sin (Hebrews 6:18).
@hellhunter65 God has within Himself an unlimited source of power--because He is infinite. However, God is non-contradictory and therefore can only do those things that are also non-contradictory. God cannot sin, God cannot make a rock to big for Him to move, etc.
@jimmysnake007 GOD is always forgiving and loves anyone...even lucifer...its even said in the bible that after 1,000 yrs lucifer will be released from this prision for some time but will be the ultimate test for us not to worship him and his test for the last time walking the earth and spending enternity in the lake of fire if he shall decieve god once more and evil shall never exist again...
@jimmysnake007 U wanna know why God never snapped his fingers? Its the fact that the word EGO assigned to lucifer is an understatement, he was blinded by his own splendour that manifested pride. God wanted to make it clear to lucifer that he simply just isn't on his level. And so by doing that, he allowed one of the chief princes of heaven(Michael) to lead the battle to re-affirm that fact. And as we all know, Michael and his angels sent the originator of sin packing, and God displayed his level
@jimmysnake007 God allowed Lucifer to display his notion of supreme strength he thought he had out on Michael and his angels.. It would be strength against strength, power against power. God gave lucifer a chance before his eviction, which was inevitable from the start of his disobedience. Lucifer is the prime example of rebellion that we can all see. God allowed this to happen to show us the consequences of sin. Plus this gives us a greater appreciation when we get to heaven through JESUS.
For me it doesn't make sense!!! If Lucifer was created Full of Wisdom! I don't think he would Revolt! For he knew that He was just a creation and his Power is Limited!!!! How come the Holy Perfect God Created Somebody ( Lucifer) Who would Revolt Against Him and Allowed Satan to Decieved Humans????
Why ask why when your answering your own questions the answer is simple why angels had with angels and all other topics f.r.e.e. W.i.l l. ! Don't question god if asked why u do what u do know ya self and pray for those in the world for forgiveness. Peace to all
Why does God allow fallen angels to possess humans, even children? Why does he give them the power to take on human form and have sex with human women and even have children with them?
Why were Satan and his angels thrown to the earth? Why are they allowed to entice humans to sin? What kind of father leaves his children alone with evil men? I'm not talking about Adam either.
whats up with that scary ass part were the face just fades in and out man im sitting here with holy herb scared out off my ass when i saw that..stupid satan
There is no verse or passage in the Bible that says,“Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. The fall of Lucifer described in Isaiah 14:12 is likely the same that Jesus referred to in Luke 10:18: I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.”A similar fall is depicted in Ezekiel 28.
There is no verse or passage in the Bible that says, “Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. The fall of Lucifer described in Isaiah 14:12 is likely the same that Jesus referred to in Luke 10:18: "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.” A similar fall is depicted in Ezekiel 28..
There is no verse or passage in the Bible that says, “Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. The fall of Lucifer described in Isaiah 14:12 is likely the same that Jesus referred to in Luke 10:18: "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.” A similar fall is depicted in Ezekiel 28.
There is no verse or passage in the Bible that says, “Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. The fall of Lucifer described in Isaiah 14:12 is likely the same that Jesus referred to in Luke 10:18: "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.” A similar fall is depicted in Ezekiel 28.
Archangels don't belong to the 3 most powerfull order ;) Archangels comes after angel and so is very low! It's: Seraphim Cherubim Thrones/Ophanim Dominion Virtues Powers Principalities archangels angels archangel is an order and Archangel is a name in the bible (so far I know) for the ruler of all angels. So archangel is just a rank and with a capital A it means that he is the highest one (the most logic answer is that with Archangel is ment the highest Seraphim) or at least very significant
So they suggest it and write in an symbolic terms but never actually state it.
Of course the serpent in Eden isn't Satan for many reasons.
Then you have the Satan of the book of Job, which is early Judaic and it tells us what they thought Satan was - a tester of mankind working with God's permission. This doesn't fit in with either the Sumerian serpent or the Christian Prince of Darkness ideas. Christians generall try to ignore this story as its so difficult to explain
@AKAKArnott 1st. The Book or Revelation says clairly that the Ancient Serpent is the one with the name "Satan and Devil". Also the "Prince of Darkness" idea comes from the scripts. In many places of the Bible you see refference to Satan as the enemy of God and man. For example you see Jesus calling Satan "the enemy of mankind and God and a murderer". These are Jesus' words.
@AKAKArnott ???????????????you wrote your own bible yes ??then who was the serpent in genesis micky mouse ?cause he wanted 2 get them 2 eat of gods favourite apple tree + not seperate god from mankind? you seem 2 know more than the Lord.bless you
Jesus Christ Himself spoke of seeing satan fall from heaven...Jesus Christ cast out demons, spoke directly at them, cast them into a herd of pigs at the demons request..Scripture is plain and clear on satan. The book of Revelation is full of scripture to substantiate this as well...
Jesus Christ Himself spoke of seeing satan fall from heaven...Jesus Christ cast out demons, spoke directly at them, cast them into a herd of pigs at the demons request..Scripture is plain and clear on satan. The book of Revelation is full of scripture to substantiate this as well...
The early parts of Genesis are based on Sumerian stories. The Sumerians didn't have the same Satan concept that Christianity developed later so their stories weren't written to match this later Satan. So you have people like Ezekial and the author of Revelation trying to suggest that the serpent in Genesis is Satan because if it it wasn't, then what was the serpent and where did evil come from. But the authors both know that what they are suggesting just doesn't fit.
@strateeg32 Yes. As a matter of fact, I believe every human is evil, except for Jesus Christ, who never sinned. Humanity is totally depraved. Marx is just a product of his sinful, depraved, corrupted nature.
I wanted to say what gives you the right to tell who is right or not
Because for all we know God could have very different morals and believes then ours. But because you find all humans bad (yourself included), i can tolerate your opinion.
I won't go in to details what I think, because some (conservative) christians may dislike my opinions or even get discusted about it :P.
This is a christian 'page' so I won't offend you guys.
@AKAKArnott the things people come up with just to satisfy the itching desires of their corrupted hearts... believe in YESHUA my friend and you will be saved. you are worth way more than historical and religious debates... your soul is still at stake no matter what you false doctrines you choose to believe
@AKAKArnott we think moses wrote genesis from the lord theres only one satan and a third of fallen angels what are you talking about?you sound like youve glanced through the bible on a rainy day.bless you
I agree that the Luke verse is supposed to be symbolic - showing the disciples power over the power of Satan.
The Bible has a lot of difficulty with Satan and it's because the writers are always trying to fit the concept of what Satan is in their own time together with what it was in earlier times - and it generally doesn't work very well. It's not surprising because the origins of the stories about Satan come from very diverse sources.
At 2.57 Satan is being cast out of heaven and this is before man was created. You quote Luke 10:18 to describe this but this verse is where Jesus is telling the 70 that he saw this as they were casting out demons - in circa 32AD.
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So Satan is cast out of heaven before year 0.
He's back in heaven around 1700BC in Job.
He falls from heaven again in Luke in 32AD
What was he doing in heaven for 1732 years - doesn't cast out mean cast out?
@AKAKArnott You might be right about satan getting cast out later. However, I never suggested that satan was cast out before man was created. I definitely don't believe that. Creation Week was perfect. God called it "very good". The rebellion of satan and his angels MUST have occurred AFTER the seventh day of creation and thus after Adam and Eve were created. In any case, satan MUST have become evil BEFORE Adam and Eve sinned.
@AKAKArnott I suppose a strong argument could be made that satan will not be cast out of heaven until shortly before Jesus returns, but the traditional view is that satan was cast out sometime after Creation Week and before the events of Genesis 3 (based on several passages like Ezekiel 28, Isaiah 14, Revelation 12, and Luke 10:18). I agree that Jesus was referring to his disciples' triumphs, but it may have also been a statement of dual meaning, as many prophecies seem to be.
I agree that the Luke verse is supposed to be symbolic - showing the disciples power over the power of Satan.
The Bible has a lot of difficulty with Satan and it's because the writers are always trying to fit the concept of what Satan is in their own time together with what it was in earlier times - and it generally doesn't work very well. It's not surprising because the origins of the stories about Satan come from very diverse sources.
I agree that the Luke verse is supposed to be symbolic - showing the disciples power over the power of Satan.
The Bible has a lot of difficulty with Satan and it's because the writers are always trying to fit the concept of what Satan is in their own time together with what it was in earlier times - and it generally doesn't work very well. It's not surprising because the origins of the stories about Satan come from very diverse sources.
I'm interested in the choice of background music. Being Australian, I am obviously familiar with the Aboriginal didgeridoo. I hope my Aborinal brethren here in Oz don't take offence. Anyway, I appreciated this message. God bless.
@smeary10 Yeah, I don't mean to demean Aboriginal music, I love it actually. I just found this particular didgeridoo song to have a very "eerie" aura about it. Appropriate I think for the topic. Peace in Christ.
I really want to believe God impregnated Mary while she was a virgin and Jesus was born to teach the word of God and be sacrificed for our sins but I can't help but question what kind of God would do this to his son? Why a human sacrifice? Why couldn't God forgive Adam and Eve? Why torture a faithful servant like JOB to make a point to satan? Why ask Abraham to sacrifice his son only to see if he would really do it and then say just kidding? Why doesn't he talk to mankind anymore like b4?
Yeah. Your mom is kicking me out of the house because I don't make enough money. Sorry, I would've loved you like a father. If you want, I'll still take you to ball games and buy you pizza?
I really want to believe God impregnated Mary while she was a virgin and Jesus was born to teach the word of God and be sacrificed for our sins but I can't help but question what kind of God would do this to his son? Why a human sacrifice? Why couldn't God forgive Adam and Eve? Why torture a faithful servant like JOB to make a point to satan? Why ask Abraham to sacrifice his son only to see if he would really do it and then say just kidding? Why doesn't he talk to mankind anymore like b4?
this true depiction portrays the essential knowledge needed for those to realize and take thought; in knowing the love of God! thankyou for posting this slide! GOD bles!
the son of light- lucifer .......may hav the power but he lacks his authority........in other words ,the authority given to him was snatched by Jesus n given to the seed of eve....tht has greater authority, nt in itself but in the covenant made to it ..... the covenant of love.
bout that time some wise men* from eastern lands arrived in Jerusalem, asking, 2 Where is the newborn king of the Jews? We have seen his star as it arose,* and we have come to worship him.
If these men were wise they may have considered the 2nd commandment
Do not worship any other God(s)
Notice it says "his star" A star made especially for Jesus,maybe just maybe heaven is this star.
God had no beginning, before the universe there was no such thing as time. And time does not exist in the spirit world, it's simply not needed as everything is forever in the next life. Is Gods power limitless? it's a power that is big enough to create heaven and the universe and all things in it, And still God is a personal God who cares about each and everyone of us. So he is very powerful indeed. There are mysteries the human mind cannot understand like the trinity and how God always was.
Not vanished. Just buried. Or in some cases burned into ash and stuffed in a jar.
Also, there is no evidence of an afterlife so I'm sorry to say that we can't be sure. It's a great motivator to live this life to the fullest though since you never know how long you got.
here's one thing i never understood - the beginning . if you lean towards religion , genisis says "in the beginning god created heaven and the earth" if you lean towards science then there is a collision before the big bang . either way you're basically started a race right in the middle of it . neither one tells you all the answers . god must have a beginning , and if so , was he all knowing? how can something be made from nothing ? there must have been void before existence .
Keep in mind, the Big Bang happened at the farthest back in time that we know of. It never attempts to demonstrate the origin of everything. There are several suggestions however that quantum fluctuations started the Big Bang which can explain our origins from nothing. Of course this hasn't been proven yet. Just speculation. I just wanted to mention this just to make sure you know that the Big Bang doesn't try to answer the origin question. It just gets us close.
i don't see what is so bad about knowing good and evil . if you only know good , then you cannot make a decision right from wrong . you just automatically do right .if there is a god , then there are reasons for everything . personally i don't find that true in my own life , seems more like a web of everything that shouldn't be . and it keep going , and going and going and no one cares . maybe that will validate something great in the end for me. maybe not . god likes to stir up contraversy .
I mean no ill will towards those who are branded "christian" but i too was once there on my jhourney and just wish for things to happen for all. it is just my love for you as for myself and all things earthly and heavenly. you are so much more than you were or are being told. As jesus told you" if i did not love you i would not tell you these things" energy from the galactic center is being rained down upon us now to make it easier than ever to truly innerstand and ascend this dimension-namaste
@amessenger4god What do you have against Karl Marx? A socialist environment is about as close to god as you can get! Do you seriously think god is a capitalist?
@megaman126512 Well, God believes in free will, so he certainly isn't a socialist either. Far from it. I have nothing personal against Marx and I didn't make the charge blindly. Read "Marx and Satan" by Richard Wurmbrandt. There is actual, documented evidence.
namaste, it is saddeningto see that even with the universe and the energies we are being bathed in right now some stiil are attached to BELIEFS AND BELIEF SYSTEMS. You are the god you seek just like the one you call jesus told you "know ye not that ye are gods?" "all that i do you can do also" or does the preacher not read that part?does any oneread the biblebook? or just argue of things they have no innerstanding of We all are multi-dimensional beings sharing an experience for a time. namaste
why not create a new beginning were one can do as one please and not have to be controlled by a single "god" and have to be ruled like a slave, like a dog chain to a tree, he has a lot of rope to move freely, but ultimately he wants to be completely free and not be in fear of breaking the rules and dying for the consequences
why did god created only 2 people, when he could have created more than only 2 people so that if some sin, the rest would not have had to pay for the consequences =/
the bible was extremely manipulated. we were always free. we came into solid existence through thought. since god is spirit, or our origins are , we just have to realize it to go back into spirit, which some mystics have completely avoided death this way. to go back to spirit, you free yourself from anything that keeps you from being pure spirit again. that's all that ever needs to be known. there is no punishment.
@amessenger4god why is god so selfish, create inferior beings that can only be so strong, that can only have the freedom that he wants and the emotions that he wants and everything he wants what ever he desire to whom ever he desires, while he keep all the power to him self, ultimately the consequences of free will are that those who are not as strong feel constantly in fear and in rage for not being as strong and not having unlimited freedom to be and do as they please.
something smeared the message of jesus. you are absolutely right. the truth is, we were always free. the bible was rewritten and manipulated. take out, exactly everything you dont like, as it happens to be, and you get the truth. we were always free. and the great 'path' to god, is an inner realization of our ultimate freedom and power of our true identity from him. this is being repressed from us
Are you sure on your words?Jesus sends his chosen one "Advocates"or Holy Ghosts,the spirit of God himself that actually communicates the "Truth" from an eternal realm
all of your post is a result of brain washing. we are gods, originating peices of god. the 'salvation' is nowhere to be found outside of us. we only have to release it from within. that is what meditation is all about, many high advanced mystics, have been known to simply walk off the earth plane.
No, it is a result of deductive reasoning, rationality, Scholastic Philosophy, and thousands of years of history.
"We are gods"
No, we are humans, that should be self-evident. God alone is God, and there is no other. The desire to be our own gods is the very reason Adam and Even sinned in the first place and death and suffering came into the world.
If we choose to be baptized into Jesus, then we will be God's adopted children.
question 2) If some people 'choose' not to love god, what is it that chooses (a clear coherent definition if you can please)? Is it the soul?
How does the soul decides?..is it random, is it determined by how god made the soul? In both cases, physical humans have free will, but the soul still has not..
(Or can you demonstrate, with logic, that it can?)
In short:
All souls are not the same I suppose,right? How can you make the case then, that god hasn't already determined who will love him?
"Satan chose to rebel": God created Angels before human beings, they had tasks in relation to humans (Guardian Angels, etc..) and were emisseraries between God and man. The Bible says that saved humans would be above Angels. Lucifer decided he was too good to serve men & to be below them. That's the reason of his fall to earth, where he tries to deceive men in believing that they can be gods, & follow him. The more he leads into perdition the more he has to serve him in hell
@kidcalabria dosent the word tell us the reason was he was jelous of the worship 2 god as he was high ranked arc angel .also satan and third angels kicked out of heaven before earth created so how do you know god gave them knowledge of saved man 2 be above angels.He wont tell Jesus when the earth is goin to get blitzed in last days.serve in hell ?Jesus said he destroy yr body+soul more like eternal punishment. serve 2 what?sorry i dont buy it bless you.
I just elaborated the idea in the video according to accepted Christian theology, as "chose to rebel" doesn't really explain the reason of Lucifer's rebellion, that's all. "He won't tell Jesus"? What do you think this is, a soap opera? Jesus and God are one, don't you know? "Don't buy it"? I'm not selling anything. "Serve 2(sic) what"? I thought the concept ("Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven") is pretty clear, unlike what you wrote, I may add. How old are you exactly?
@kidcalabria ello how are u ?Im a born agian christian .the godhead are 3 persons and yes there 1 + agree but they are clearly individial persons as well (have their own minds).(he wont tell Jesus)reason i said this mark .13 .32 but on that day and that hour knoweth no man no not the angels which are in heaven neither the son but the father.Buy it : just a saying.serve 2~missprinted apolagies first u say serve in hell now reigning.aint was Jesus said .My age?ask Jesus all 3 know this 1~BLESS ~
Yes, I said "reign" in the Devil's case, "serve" for those who are below him in hell, it's logical, isn't it? Your conception of God seems to be one of an individual person; but if you reflect upon it, you'll realize that God is totally transcendent, unknowable & beyond our comprehension. That's why Jesus came as man. About the message you sent me, asking if I had asked Jesus into my heart: well, no, I didn't. But then He asked me tho', so it's alright, I guess. Thanks for asking
@jennyrgar You know you sound like one of Alester crowley's students.We are all gods?That huge crater on earth is i bet from after lucifer's fall to earth.
no, the bible has been manipulated. the truth is exactly what you think it is. we were always free and someone is repressing the true power and freedom of humans for control.
@jennyrgar not really, we were told that we were free, but in reality we just didn't knew any better. this is because we only knew "good" . After Lucifer told us that we would be like god if we ate the apple and we ate it, we became like god, because we had knowledge of good and evil, realizing that god has all the power and we are nothing but puppets controlled by how ever he wanted, I mean we have free will, but only of the little knowledge tha he give us
edgar cayce explains the general story, nice and simple: orign of humans. but man o man let me tall ya, there are other details, and so much more magic, not by magic, but by the truth of fucking the universe. but anyway, we were already gods, who initially became tempted by the sons of man on earth. the mixture mixed the makeup of our minds. its fucking ruined everything. every human's mind is a ratio of part man, part god. right brain/left.
jesus, and other forms, tried to remind us, every attempt to remind us that we are free, and have the power to escape this world has been smeared. we hold the power of god within us. all knowledge, all available genius of any sort is a possibility within us, being a natural part of the universe. the devil convinced us, after our first curious mistake, that we are nothing but hollow helpless people. and that is why, controlling us is not a stage for him. power over us, is his own definition
next time please add the following statement preceding any statement u write/say to anyone and anything:
"I am a child, please exuse my illogical opinions, they are unresearched, and simply come from my human need to say anything my mind comes up with; and as it does, i create whatever sense i can find of things and it will probably kill my sense of reality by the time i reach your age - but leave that to my mind, itll cure itself".
AND, ur way of viewing God is one of the main reasons God allowed and will continue to allow knowledge to advance to VERY unique high places among mankind. It is to prove to mankind that they were not created to KNOW - but to love.
piss head.
wake UP!!! or just shrivel away and stay away with ur comments that could only make a roach agree and nothing more.
well we will never know what we are missing cuz we don't know i Just refuse to live like a mortal, I mean, even if we mortals were once again perfect, we still be weak, we still made out of flesh and would not fly. you may think it's a beautiful thing to be perfect and not have any problems and agree that you don't care to know and just live with god happy, how ever i refuse to live in a place were im inferior under the full control of god, you see, he is the leader and we his slaves :(
i dont see the "I am a child" statement anywhere so i'm not wasting my time reading even though; as i skimmed over the first 10 words, the thought of puking insanely became pleasant.
@iuzarneim that's because im not a child, im sorry to hear about your puking problems
but you must see to understand completely what im talking about, we are gods children, children that have no option but to live however gods, desires, he can destroy us all or make us happy, we have no say in this world, thus only being what ever gods desires,dont you want to became free? free of all were you can be as you were meant to be? @_@
"we are gods children, children that have NO OPTION but to live however gods, desires, he can destroy us all or make us happy, WE HAVE NO SAY in this world"
then you ask: "dont you want to become free?"
Very confusing statetements when delivered together. But then again, Christians are a very confused bunch of people to begin with. As you make so ostentatiously clear with your post.
ps make sure you look that word up: its ostentatious.
you see, god gives you happiness to confuse you and make you feel like all you need is happiness, but in reality he is just not letting you see the truth, the truth is that you can be god or god like if you refuse his offer
keep living with your eyes close seeing what he want you to see and feel, I however know what he does not want me to know and im happy to know what I know
this is the work of the devil. he is a sly little angel who knows only to destroy anything or anyone good.
and that was how mankind was destroyed. picture it this way, u own a dog, ur friend owns a better dog, it is perfect actually. but in its perfectness, it CAN be destroyed. anything CREATED can be destroyed, put that in your logic by the way.
I appreciate your kindness and understanding, however, I just know what we mortals were never supposed to know, I have see things and felt things that were unknown to the mortal soul. I have know what my purpose is, and have see god taking it away and making me
The problem is that you take jesus christ as a god and not as an example of how people should live in love and solidarity!
Jesus was a great radical, among other ancients, and just another one of us who lived on this planet!! Nothing more, nothing less...
I think every man is a god and our race doesn't need gods, masters n fairytales... church and religions give birth to racism, discriminations and hate!
true. jesus is not a god he never claimed to be. he said he was the son of jehova the true god. but alot of religions say they were the same person alot of religions are fake they are there to stop you from bealieving the truth. but if you really want to know just read the bible its alot easier than going to a church with a gauy who just trying to take your money. jesus said dont give money to the church. its in the bible. jesus before he came here he was named michael. yeah he the archangel
He claimed to be God numerous times and in almost every way imaginable. He claimed to be "I AM" at least 8 times. He claimed to be the forigver of sins, the Lord of the Sabbath, the Savior of Israel, the King of the Jews... not to mention many other titles that He and His followers bestowed that only belong to God. He was directly called "God" by His apostle AND worshipped and He accepted it.
Is the offspring of a dog a squirrel? No. So the offspring of God is God. Begotten not made.
@merminx Without God, there is hate, for he IS love and the enemy hates anything Godly; therefore is hate. God did not give birth to what you've uneducately stated, Satan did.
So many people claim to talk to god. And you believe them? The same men who claimed to talk to god enforced the release letter. Saying that if they PAY MONEY to the church all their sins will be washed away. Honestly, are you serious?
Oh and im NOT atheist :).
I am very spiritual and i DO believe there is more to life than what we see. A universal consciousness so to say :).
I AGREE with you, rosenti--also, most people don't realize that the bible has been revised, sections taken out, ect.--like, for instance: "reincarnation"...also, remember: the POS bush said that he was told to attack Iraq...by god...anybody who believes that has GOT to be BRAINDEAD!!!!
@richardhenly I didn't realize POS Bush actually said that xD! All i can say is i would burst out into laughter right in his face if i had the chance xD.
Ok... so Stalin was possessed by the devil - against whom was he fighting again? Ah right! Hitler! So Hitler must have been some kind of gods allied (slaughtering millions of people)!
That argumentation is just as absurd as this video...
However, stick to your ridiculous belief as long as you don't effect others...
Okay... i guess you didn't get my point. I even said my argumentation is absurd (just read my comment again), in some areas of the you world call it irony - I don't know if you heard about it. To clarify it for you - I wanted to say that blaiming evil to some kind metaphysical being is simply ridiculous - especially by taking examples as Marx. Marx saw the misery of workers in his surrounding and searched ways to improve their situation. How the hell can you call this evil? I hope you get it now
Even the bible? A book written by mankind which whom has imperfect knowledge. If you rely your thoughts and views on a book written by man. Then this discussion can't go any further :). I respect you believe in the bible if it contributes you to being a better person. But i can honestly say i don't believe in the bible.
So, thank you for our talk and have a nice day :D.
That's your subjective opinion. Of course the Bible was written by men, but men who were inspired and writing authoritatively through the Holy Spirit. What separates the Bible from all other religious books is that it is thoroughly confirmed through: prophecy, archaeology, history, MSS accuracy, etc...
And of course we should love and be "moral", but where does love and morality come from? Certainly not thin air. If there is no eternal God, then "love" and "morals" are purely subjective.
FUCK. I really think you're right.
Thanks, I'll be shaving my genitals from now on.
koella2 5 days ago
YOU Disobey god you will become EVIL, that is the source of all evil, All holiness leaves you when you disobey the ALL GOOD god
smisbahuddin 3 months ago
@smisbahuddin Amen I say to you.
amessenger4god 3 months ago
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@amessenger4god Lucifer rebelled because YAWHEH was an evil tyrant...according to your own bible...god killed over 2 million people including women and babies and animals! Satan 10 ..under gods orders! ex. of yawheh s ethics 2 Samuel: Chapter 11: 1. David Commits Adultery with Bathsheba. 2. David has Uriah Killed; Chapter 12: 3 gods orders the husband killed so it s not adultery...u jews ..christians and muslims are all sick people! evil and immoral ! AVE LUCIFER!
illuminatiperspectiv 1 month ago
@ ameesenger4god other than the book of Revelations, what are your sources?
XENAMAX 4 months ago
@XENAMAX Ezekiel, Isaiah, Genesis, Luke, and Jude.
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you guys are missing the point once you really feel GOD'S Precence anlround you there won't be a doubt in your mind he's there and you will be rewarded for your hardship and even when you don't you have to keep pushing yourself towards him and you will rediscover him he loves you but are you willing to go against the world to love him back
archangel1447 6 months ago
i also believe the God allowed thier fight to happen to show fairness. if he would have just snapped his fingers as soon as lucifer got out of line it would be more like a dictatorship and God is not a dictator
cOmPtOnTV1 7 months ago
Jesus the messager of Hell on Earth he is the child of evil, the child of ruin, Jesus Christ is the deadly opponent against knowledge, wisdom and truth, and the opponent against love, peace, respect and harmony. It is the Anti-Logos in manifold form. It is the force of evil, the 666, which is against the truth of Creation, against the truth of the Spirit and against the obedience to the laws and commandments. No MORE LIES!!! Go read the book Talmud Jmmanuel!!
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youneekk 8 months ago
where did god come from?
ELAxscorpion 9 months ago
@ELAxscorpion God is the only self-existent being and thus has no source. He simply is ("I AM that I AM"). Only beings/things that exist within time need to come from somewhere. God exists outside of time... in fact, He created time itself.
amessenger4god 8 months ago 3
@amessenger4god Proof?
ELAxscorpion 8 months ago
@ELAxscorpion proof is not required in all aspects of religion somethings you just have to have faith.
cOmPtOnTV1 7 months ago
@cOmPtOnTV1 Sounds like a big conspiracy to keep all you believers in line.
ELAxscorpion 7 months ago
@ELAxscorpion look at it this way what do you loose by being christian and trying to live your life in the right way? if christians were wrong then what nothing happens. but if what if they're right? i would hate to be condemned because i didnt have any faith. if im wrong then im wrong and then there will be nothing after you die but if im right then i'm right and there is one then i will be rewaded in heaven if i lived right. there's no loosing
cOmPtOnTV1 7 months ago
@cOmPtOnTV1 I like that reply very much. But I still don't feel the need to give in. You made an amazing point, I'm the see to believe type of guy and what you just said very much so made sense. Yet still i don't think it makes sense to follow someones norms when you don't even know if you will indeed be rewarded in the end.
ELAxscorpion 7 months ago
@ELAxscorpion put it this way. its like doing something for your moms just because its right. you hope to get rewarded but even if you dont its fine. there's still a chance of it though. but by not doing anything whether you're right or not you wont get rewarded. im not what u would call religious im more into statistics.
i'll take my chances in being wrong and have a chance of having a reward then to not at all and have no chance at all.
cOmPtOnTV1 7 months ago
@cOmPtOnTV1 Thats making way too much sense -.-
ELAxscorpion 7 months ago
@ELAxscorpion now i agree alot of people are religious fanatics but im what you will call a realistic that believes in God. mainly because i feel science has not gave me a logical answer as to how we got here, the bible has been correct about so many things, and also like i said before what am i loosing by doing this? think about. im not saying listen to every person holding a bible and claim to know God. do like do do your research and come with your own beliefs to what u believe is right.
cOmPtOnTV1 7 months ago
@cOmPtOnTV1 wow...thanks.
ELAxscorpion 7 months ago
@amessenger4god but how can a human, with the power of the greatest thing in the world, a brain? not understand that something needs to come from something AKA god must be made from something, it must hurt your brain excepting that god is just yeah hes there you know no one made him , he is just is????!?! WTFFFF
TheVga1991 5 months ago
@TheVga1991 You're missing the critical reason why God does not need to come from something: ONLY things that begin to exist must have a cause. Planets, stars, and you and I began to exist, therefore we need a cause to explain our existence, but this is only because we exist within time. God CREATED time itself and thus the question, "Where did God come from?" is illogical, because God: 1.) Created time and exists apart from time, and 2.) never began to exist because He is self-existent.
amessenger4god 4 months ago
@amessenger4god I'm not trying to hate i wish i could believe that but i just don't something (anything) must come from something it can't simply exist, even when time is involved, it still must hurt you head, how can something just be???????
TheVga1991 4 months ago
Because just as it is our nature to come from something because we exist within time, it is God's nature to simply "be" because He exists outside of time.
amessenger4god 4 months ago
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The Illuminati, who sold their souls for Lucifer, have an obligation to teach the world the wrong names of the Trinity. The purpose of this is so you condemn yourself upon judgment. When Christ asks "Who do you say that I am?" make sure and tell others to answer, :"You are God."
If you give the Illuminati answer, "You are the son of a talking fire (the Lord)," you will quickly find out what Freemasonry has done to you and you will have an eternity to think about it. fatimamovement d o t c o m
fatimamovement 10 months ago
ok answer me this if god was all know then he knew that lucifer was going to wage war in heaven why did he have michael fight him why didnt God snap his fingers and make lucifer disappear God wanted a devil if God created good then he also created evil. and free will haha there is no free will if you dont obey God you get banish from paradise thats what happen to Lucifer you dont obey you get banish
jimmysnake007 10 months ago
@jimmysnake007 God didn't create evil. We did (and so did satan). God allows evil to exist, but He did not create it. Evil, by definition, is just the absence of good. Evil is everything that is opposite and contrary to God. God cannot create anything contrary to Himself.
God doesn't just "snap his fingers". That's not the kind of God He is. God allows things to happen. He gives us free will. He allows us to choose right from wrong and to love freely.
amessenger4god 10 months ago 4
@amessenger4god You are so correct. What most all of you miss is that free will plays a role in all this. Free will regarding Lucifer's fall, free will regarding Adam and Eve's transgression, free will in accepting Jesus as Lord and Savior. The Lord does not want a relationship with mindless puppets. He wants a relationship with ones who understand right from wrong, and accept him. He does not force any of his creations to blindly love him.
Chopperfreak69 9 months ago
@Chopperfreak69 Exactly. Well said.
amessenger4god 9 months ago
@amessenger4god well god can just do wat ever the hell he one but he just chose not to, true?
hellhunter65 6 months ago
@hellhunter65 God can do whatever is logical. Creating evil is illogical and contrary to God's nature. It is impossible for God to sin (Hebrews 6:18).
amessenger4god 6 months ago
@amessenger4god whatt? D:
i thought god could do everything you or anyone can ever think of
hellhunter65 6 months ago
@hellhunter65 God has within Himself an unlimited source of power--because He is infinite. However, God is non-contradictory and therefore can only do those things that are also non-contradictory. God cannot sin, God cannot make a rock to big for Him to move, etc.
amessenger4god 5 months ago
@jimmysnake007 GOD is always forgiving and loves anyone...even lucifer...its even said in the bible that after 1,000 yrs lucifer will be released from this prision for some time but will be the ultimate test for us not to worship him and his test for the last time walking the earth and spending enternity in the lake of fire if he shall decieve god once more and evil shall never exist again...
1Colorz 10 months ago
@jimmysnake007 U wanna know why God never snapped his fingers? Its the fact that the word EGO assigned to lucifer is an understatement, he was blinded by his own splendour that manifested pride. God wanted to make it clear to lucifer that he simply just isn't on his level. And so by doing that, he allowed one of the chief princes of heaven(Michael) to lead the battle to re-affirm that fact. And as we all know, Michael and his angels sent the originator of sin packing, and God displayed his level
astgraphicnovel 9 months ago
@jimmysnake007 God allowed Lucifer to display his notion of supreme strength he thought he had out on Michael and his angels.. It would be strength against strength, power against power. God gave lucifer a chance before his eviction, which was inevitable from the start of his disobedience. Lucifer is the prime example of rebellion that we can all see. God allowed this to happen to show us the consequences of sin. Plus this gives us a greater appreciation when we get to heaven through JESUS.
astgraphicnovel 9 months ago
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For me it doesn't make sense!!! If Lucifer was created Full of Wisdom! I don't think he would Revolt! For he knew that He was just a creation and his Power is Limited!!!! How come the Holy Perfect God Created Somebody ( Lucifer) Who would Revolt Against Him and Allowed Satan to Decieved Humans????
Chilenita2009 10 months ago
he was not an Angel.
trex457 11 months ago
Wait what?.... you didnt say what sin it was that Lucifer commited...
bbox 1 year ago
Christian nonsense the Gnostics knew better.
garychldress74 1 year ago
Why ask why when your answering your own questions the answer is simple why angels had with angels and all other topics f.r.e.e. W.i.l l. ! Don't question god if asked why u do what u do know ya self and pray for those in the world for forgiveness. Peace to all
MrCash518 1 year ago
poor Satan :(
chris200830 1 year ago
Why does God allow fallen angels to possess humans, even children? Why does he give them the power to take on human form and have sex with human women and even have children with them?
BereanJames 1 year ago
Why were Satan and his angels thrown to the earth? Why are they allowed to entice humans to sin? What kind of father leaves his children alone with evil men? I'm not talking about Adam either.
BereanJames 1 year ago
YOU DO NOT CHOOSE GOD; HE CHOOSES YOU!!!!!!!!!!
mdwlcx 1 year ago
whats up with that scary ass part were the face just fades in and out man im sitting here with holy herb scared out off my ass when i saw that..stupid satan
stonedhero100 1 year ago
Lucifer son of the morning
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There is no verse or passage in the Bible that says,“Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. The fall of Lucifer described in Isaiah 14:12 is likely the same that Jesus referred to in Luke 10:18: I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.”A similar fall is depicted in Ezekiel 28.
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There is no verse or passage in the Bible that says, “Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. The fall of Lucifer described in Isaiah 14:12 is likely the same that Jesus referred to in Luke 10:18: "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.” A similar fall is depicted in Ezekiel 28..
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There is no verse or passage in the Bible that says, “Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. The fall of Lucifer described in Isaiah 14:12 is likely the same that Jesus referred to in Luke 10:18: "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.” A similar fall is depicted in Ezekiel 28.
ANTOINE62877 1 year ago
There is no verse or passage in the Bible that says, “Lucifer is Satan,” but an examination of several passages reveals that Lucifer can be none other than Satan. The fall of Lucifer described in Isaiah 14:12 is likely the same that Jesus referred to in Luke 10:18: "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven.” A similar fall is depicted in Ezekiel 28.
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strateeg32 1 year ago
@amessenger4god 3/3
So they suggest it and write in an symbolic terms but never actually state it.
Of course the serpent in Eden isn't Satan for many reasons.
Then you have the Satan of the book of Job, which is early Judaic and it tells us what they thought Satan was - a tester of mankind working with God's permission. This doesn't fit in with either the Sumerian serpent or the Christian Prince of Darkness ideas. Christians generall try to ignore this story as its so difficult to explain
AKAKArnott 1 year ago
@AKAKArnott "Of course the serpent in Eden isn't Satan for many reasons."
Nope. The Bible says plainly that the serpent was satan. Revelation 12:9 and Revelation 20:2.
amessenger4god 1 year ago
@amessenger4god be ye therefore wise as serpents and harmless as doves.I agree 100%
brakenlaker1 1 year ago
@AKAKArnott 1st. The Book or Revelation says clairly that the Ancient Serpent is the one with the name "Satan and Devil". Also the "Prince of Darkness" idea comes from the scripts. In many places of the Bible you see refference to Satan as the enemy of God and man. For example you see Jesus calling Satan "the enemy of mankind and God and a murderer". These are Jesus' words.
K3lin 1 year ago
@AKAKArnott ???????????????you wrote your own bible yes ??then who was the serpent in genesis micky mouse ?cause he wanted 2 get them 2 eat of gods favourite apple tree + not seperate god from mankind? you seem 2 know more than the Lord.bless you
brakenlaker1 1 year ago
Jesus Christ Himself spoke of seeing satan fall from heaven...Jesus Christ cast out demons, spoke directly at them, cast them into a herd of pigs at the demons request..Scripture is plain and clear on satan. The book of Revelation is full of scripture to substantiate this as well...
ChildoftheKing23 1 year ago
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Jesus Christ Himself spoke of seeing satan fall from heaven...Jesus Christ cast out demons, spoke directly at them, cast them into a herd of pigs at the demons request..Scripture is plain and clear on satan. The book of Revelation is full of scripture to substantiate this as well...
ChildoftheKing23 1 year ago
@amessenger4god 2/3
The early parts of Genesis are based on Sumerian stories. The Sumerians didn't have the same Satan concept that Christianity developed later so their stories weren't written to match this later Satan. So you have people like Ezekial and the author of Revelation trying to suggest that the serpent in Genesis is Satan because if it it wasn't, then what was the serpent and where did evil come from. But the authors both know that what they are suggesting just doesn't fit.
AKAKArnott 1 year ago
@AKAKArnott "The early parts of Genesis are based on Sumerian stories." Says who? You? What historical basis do you have for that? None.
amessenger4god 1 year ago 3
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You think Karl Marx the creator of communisme is evil?
strateeg32 1 year ago
@strateeg32 Yes. As a matter of fact, I believe every human is evil, except for Jesus Christ, who never sinned. Humanity is totally depraved. Marx is just a product of his sinful, depraved, corrupted nature.
amessenger4god 1 year ago 6
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hmm okey, I am not a fan of Marx either.
I wanted to say what gives you the right to tell who is right or not
Because for all we know God could have very different morals and believes then ours. But because you find all humans bad (yourself included), i can tolerate your opinion.
I won't go in to details what I think, because some (conservative) christians may dislike my opinions or even get discusted about it :P.
This is a christian 'page' so I won't offend you guys.
strateeg32 1 year ago
@amessenger4god hi amessenger4god can you tell me short how Lucifer became the devil? I couldn't read the text in the video that much.
MoortenJ 1 year ago
@amessenger4god Nice answer.
JheiPs 1 year ago
@strateeg32
Yes i think.
68winis 1 year ago
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68winis 1 year ago
@AKAKArnott the things people come up with just to satisfy the itching desires of their corrupted hearts... believe in YESHUA my friend and you will be saved. you are worth way more than historical and religious debates... your soul is still at stake no matter what you false doctrines you choose to believe
Smokewunn 1 year ago
@AKAKArnott we think moses wrote genesis from the lord theres only one satan and a third of fallen angels what are you talking about?you sound like youve glanced through the bible on a rainy day.bless you
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@amessenger4god 1/3
I agree that the Luke verse is supposed to be symbolic - showing the disciples power over the power of Satan.
The Bible has a lot of difficulty with Satan and it's because the writers are always trying to fit the concept of what Satan is in their own time together with what it was in earlier times - and it generally doesn't work very well. It's not surprising because the origins of the stories about Satan come from very diverse sources.
AKAKArnott 1 year ago
Your chronology of events seems to be a bit off.
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At 2.57 Satan is being cast out of heaven and this is before man was created. You quote Luke 10:18 to describe this but this verse is where Jesus is telling the 70 that he saw this as they were casting out demons - in circa 32AD.
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So Satan is cast out of heaven before year 0.
He's back in heaven around 1700BC in Job.
He falls from heaven again in Luke in 32AD
What was he doing in heaven for 1732 years - doesn't cast out mean cast out?
AKAKArnott 1 year ago
@AKAKArnott You might be right about satan getting cast out later. However, I never suggested that satan was cast out before man was created. I definitely don't believe that. Creation Week was perfect. God called it "very good". The rebellion of satan and his angels MUST have occurred AFTER the seventh day of creation and thus after Adam and Eve were created. In any case, satan MUST have become evil BEFORE Adam and Eve sinned.
amessenger4god 1 year ago
@AKAKArnott I suppose a strong argument could be made that satan will not be cast out of heaven until shortly before Jesus returns, but the traditional view is that satan was cast out sometime after Creation Week and before the events of Genesis 3 (based on several passages like Ezekiel 28, Isaiah 14, Revelation 12, and Luke 10:18). I agree that Jesus was referring to his disciples' triumphs, but it may have also been a statement of dual meaning, as many prophecies seem to be.
amessenger4god 1 year ago
@amessenger4god 1/3
I agree that the Luke verse is supposed to be symbolic - showing the disciples power over the power of Satan.
The Bible has a lot of difficulty with Satan and it's because the writers are always trying to fit the concept of what Satan is in their own time together with what it was in earlier times - and it generally doesn't work very well. It's not surprising because the origins of the stories about Satan come from very diverse sources.
AKAKArnott 1 year ago
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@amessenger4god 1/3
I agree that the Luke verse is supposed to be symbolic - showing the disciples power over the power of Satan.
The Bible has a lot of difficulty with Satan and it's because the writers are always trying to fit the concept of what Satan is in their own time together with what it was in earlier times - and it generally doesn't work very well. It's not surprising because the origins of the stories about Satan come from very diverse sources.
AKAKArnott 1 year ago
I'm interested in the choice of background music. Being Australian, I am obviously familiar with the Aboriginal didgeridoo. I hope my Aborinal brethren here in Oz don't take offence. Anyway, I appreciated this message. God bless.
smeary10 1 year ago
@smeary10 Yeah, I don't mean to demean Aboriginal music, I love it actually. I just found this particular didgeridoo song to have a very "eerie" aura about it. Appropriate I think for the topic. Peace in Christ.
amessenger4god 1 year ago
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I really want to believe God impregnated Mary while she was a virgin and Jesus was born to teach the word of God and be sacrificed for our sins but I can't help but question what kind of God would do this to his son? Why a human sacrifice? Why couldn't God forgive Adam and Eve? Why torture a faithful servant like JOB to make a point to satan? Why ask Abraham to sacrifice his son only to see if he would really do it and then say just kidding? Why doesn't he talk to mankind anymore like b4?
MrThefutureisnow 1 year ago
Here's some guesses:
1. God's an asshole
2. God doesn't like us
3. God never talked to us before
4. God liked us and talked to us before but then he made us different and he didn't like that so he ignores us
5. The Bible is bullshit
6. People dying gives God a hard on.
7. He couldn't forgive Adam and Eve for the sin he created because he didn't want to because he's a prick
8. God tortured Job because people are pawns. He can always make another one.
Skrothn 1 year ago
@Skrothn dont be deceived. God is not Mocked.
Smokewunn 1 year ago
Exactly. You can't mock what isn't there to begin with.
Skrothn 1 year ago
@Skrothn No my friend. soon YOU wont be here.
Smokewunn 1 year ago
Yeah. Your mom is kicking me out of the house because I don't make enough money. Sorry, I would've loved you like a father. If you want, I'll still take you to ball games and buy you pizza?
Skrothn 1 year ago
I really want to believe God impregnated Mary while she was a virgin and Jesus was born to teach the word of God and be sacrificed for our sins but I can't help but question what kind of God would do this to his son? Why a human sacrifice? Why couldn't God forgive Adam and Eve? Why torture a faithful servant like JOB to make a point to satan? Why ask Abraham to sacrifice his son only to see if he would really do it and then say just kidding? Why doesn't he talk to mankind anymore like b4?
MrThefutureisnow 1 year ago
wew
jercbuno00900 1 year ago
this true depiction portrays the essential knowledge needed for those to realize and take thought; in knowing the love of God! thankyou for posting this slide! GOD bles!
samiuraii011 1 year ago
I WISH I COULD BELIEVE WHAT YOU BELIEVE
esrapk 1 year ago
the son of light- lucifer .......may hav the power but he lacks his authority........in other words ,the authority given to him was snatched by Jesus n given to the seed of eve....tht has greater authority, nt in itself but in the covenant made to it ..... the covenant of love.
deborahregime 1 year ago
wow what a bunch of bullshit
JoelovesDisturbed 1 year ago
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seconded.
Skrothn 1 year ago
you forgot to mention also Hitler and also Bush, not only Stalin...
Peace
VendPrekmurec 1 year ago
"....and then god scattered thousands of dinosaur bones all over the earth because he thought it would be funny." Amen to that brother!
lithuanian12 1 year ago
bout that time some wise men* from eastern lands arrived in Jerusalem, asking, 2 Where is the newborn king of the Jews? We have seen his star as it arose,* and we have come to worship him.
If these men were wise they may have considered the 2nd commandment
Do not worship any other God(s)
Notice it says "his star" A star made especially for Jesus,maybe just maybe heaven is this star.
edavisdavis 2 years ago
God had no beginning, before the universe there was no such thing as time. And time does not exist in the spirit world, it's simply not needed as everything is forever in the next life. Is Gods power limitless? it's a power that is big enough to create heaven and the universe and all things in it, And still God is a personal God who cares about each and everyone of us. So he is very powerful indeed. There are mysteries the human mind cannot understand like the trinity and how God always was.
Free777Thinker 2 years ago 2
Exactly right.
amessenger4god 2 years ago
@Free777Thinker how can i be sure that there is a life after my human life???
it can be that there is nothing and that we're completely vanished after we die???
junk3m0 1 year ago 2
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Not vanished. Just buried. Or in some cases burned into ash and stuffed in a jar.
Also, there is no evidence of an afterlife so I'm sorry to say that we can't be sure. It's a great motivator to live this life to the fullest though since you never know how long you got.
Skrothn 1 year ago
@Skrothn that's what i was trying to say by "vanished"..!
junk3m0 1 year ago
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Oh, ok. It just wasn't the best word to use so I wanted to point that out.
Skrothn 1 year ago
@Skrothn euh...I guess it wasn't....
so thx 4 hvin clarified things out!!!
junk3m0 1 year ago
here's one thing i never understood - the beginning . if you lean towards religion , genisis says "in the beginning god created heaven and the earth" if you lean towards science then there is a collision before the big bang . either way you're basically started a race right in the middle of it . neither one tells you all the answers . god must have a beginning , and if so , was he all knowing? how can something be made from nothing ? there must have been void before existence .
NickTheSlasherMgirk2 2 years ago
Keep in mind, the Big Bang happened at the farthest back in time that we know of. It never attempts to demonstrate the origin of everything. There are several suggestions however that quantum fluctuations started the Big Bang which can explain our origins from nothing. Of course this hasn't been proven yet. Just speculation. I just wanted to mention this just to make sure you know that the Big Bang doesn't try to answer the origin question. It just gets us close.
Skrothn 1 year ago
i don't see what is so bad about knowing good and evil . if you only know good , then you cannot make a decision right from wrong . you just automatically do right .if there is a god , then there are reasons for everything . personally i don't find that true in my own life , seems more like a web of everything that shouldn't be . and it keep going , and going and going and no one cares . maybe that will validate something great in the end for me. maybe not . god likes to stir up contraversy .
NickTheSlasherMgirk2 2 years ago
I mean no ill will towards those who are branded "christian" but i too was once there on my jhourney and just wish for things to happen for all. it is just my love for you as for myself and all things earthly and heavenly. you are so much more than you were or are being told. As jesus told you" if i did not love you i would not tell you these things" energy from the galactic center is being rained down upon us now to make it easier than ever to truly innerstand and ascend this dimension-namaste
sensai67 2 years ago
Jesus said, "I AM the Way, and the Truth, and the Life, NO ONE comes to the Father, but by Me."
Jesus said, "I AM the Resurrection and the Life. He who believes in Me will live, even though He dies."
Jesus said, "I AM the Door, if anyone enters though Me, he will be saved."
amessenger4god 2 years ago 2
@amessenger4god What do you have against Karl Marx? A socialist environment is about as close to god as you can get! Do you seriously think god is a capitalist?
megaman126512 1 year ago
@megaman126512 Well, God believes in free will, so he certainly isn't a socialist either. Far from it. I have nothing personal against Marx and I didn't make the charge blindly. Read "Marx and Satan" by Richard Wurmbrandt. There is actual, documented evidence.
amessenger4god 1 year ago
namaste, it is saddeningto see that even with the universe and the energies we are being bathed in right now some stiil are attached to BELIEFS AND BELIEF SYSTEMS. You are the god you seek just like the one you call jesus told you "know ye not that ye are gods?" "all that i do you can do also" or does the preacher not read that part?does any oneread the biblebook? or just argue of things they have no innerstanding of We all are multi-dimensional beings sharing an experience for a time. namaste
sensai67 2 years ago
4:17 =SCARY!!
SANDLotfan112 2 years ago
is this video suppose to discriminate satanism and to convert to Christianity?
aerialfury 2 years ago
why not create a new beginning were one can do as one please and not have to be controlled by a single "god" and have to be ruled like a slave, like a dog chain to a tree, he has a lot of rope to move freely, but ultimately he wants to be completely free and not be in fear of breaking the rules and dying for the consequences
why did god created only 2 people, when he could have created more than only 2 people so that if some sin, the rest would not have had to pay for the consequences =/
775gary 2 years ago
the bible was extremely manipulated. we were always free. we came into solid existence through thought. since god is spirit, or our origins are , we just have to realize it to go back into spirit, which some mystics have completely avoided death this way. to go back to spirit, you free yourself from anything that keeps you from being pure spirit again. that's all that ever needs to be known. there is no punishment.
jennyrgar 2 years ago
@amessenger4god why is god so selfish, create inferior beings that can only be so strong, that can only have the freedom that he wants and the emotions that he wants and everything he wants what ever he desire to whom ever he desires, while he keep all the power to him self, ultimately the consequences of free will are that those who are not as strong feel constantly in fear and in rage for not being as strong and not having unlimited freedom to be and do as they please.
775gary 2 years ago
something smeared the message of jesus. you are absolutely right. the truth is, we were always free. the bible was rewritten and manipulated. take out, exactly everything you dont like, as it happens to be, and you get the truth. we were always free. and the great 'path' to god, is an inner realization of our ultimate freedom and power of our true identity from him. this is being repressed from us
jennyrgar 2 years ago
Are you sure on your words?Jesus sends his chosen one "Advocates"or Holy Ghosts,the spirit of God himself that actually communicates the "Truth" from an eternal realm
edavisdavis 2 years ago
all of your post is a result of brain washing. we are gods, originating peices of god. the 'salvation' is nowhere to be found outside of us. we only have to release it from within. that is what meditation is all about, many high advanced mystics, have been known to simply walk off the earth plane.
jennyrgar 2 years ago
"all of your post is a result of brain washing."
No, it is a result of deductive reasoning, rationality, Scholastic Philosophy, and thousands of years of history.
"We are gods"
No, we are humans, that should be self-evident. God alone is God, and there is no other. The desire to be our own gods is the very reason Adam and Even sinned in the first place and death and suffering came into the world.
If we choose to be baptized into Jesus, then we will be God's adopted children.
amessenger4god 2 years ago 3
@amessenger4god
"No, it is a result of deductive reasoning, rationality, Scholastic Philosophy, and thousands of years of history."
Perfect, since I'd like to ask you 2 questions.
Usually people start to preach, resort in reasoning that presupposes god, or quote scripture..I hope you use logic and "deductive reasoning" :
1) Lucifer "chose" to rebel, had pride etc.
How is that possible when there was no evil to choose from in the first place?(being in heaven with god)..
2) cont.
ReligionInTheBin 1 year ago 3
cont
question 2) If some people 'choose' not to love god, what is it that chooses (a clear coherent definition if you can please)? Is it the soul?
How does the soul decides?..is it random, is it determined by how god made the soul? In both cases, physical humans have free will, but the soul still has not..
(Or can you demonstrate, with logic, that it can?)
In short:
All souls are not the same I suppose,right? How can you make the case then, that god hasn't already determined who will love him?
ReligionInTheBin 1 year ago 3
@ReligionInTheBin
"Satan chose to rebel": God created Angels before human beings, they had tasks in relation to humans (Guardian Angels, etc..) and were emisseraries between God and man. The Bible says that saved humans would be above Angels. Lucifer decided he was too good to serve men & to be below them. That's the reason of his fall to earth, where he tries to deceive men in believing that they can be gods, & follow him. The more he leads into perdition the more he has to serve him in hell
kidcalabria 1 year ago
@kidcalabria dosent the word tell us the reason was he was jelous of the worship 2 god as he was high ranked arc angel .also satan and third angels kicked out of heaven before earth created so how do you know god gave them knowledge of saved man 2 be above angels.He wont tell Jesus when the earth is goin to get blitzed in last days.serve in hell ?Jesus said he destroy yr body+soul more like eternal punishment. serve 2 what?sorry i dont buy it bless you.
brakenlaker1 1 year ago
@brakenlaker1
I just elaborated the idea in the video according to accepted Christian theology, as "chose to rebel" doesn't really explain the reason of Lucifer's rebellion, that's all. "He won't tell Jesus"? What do you think this is, a soap opera? Jesus and God are one, don't you know? "Don't buy it"? I'm not selling anything. "Serve 2(sic) what"? I thought the concept ("Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven") is pretty clear, unlike what you wrote, I may add. How old are you exactly?
kidcalabria 1 year ago
@kidcalabria ello how are u ?Im a born agian christian .the godhead are 3 persons and yes there 1 + agree but they are clearly individial persons as well (have their own minds).(he wont tell Jesus)reason i said this mark .13 .32 but on that day and that hour knoweth no man no not the angels which are in heaven neither the son but the father.Buy it : just a saying.serve 2~missprinted apolagies first u say serve in hell now reigning.aint was Jesus said .My age?ask Jesus all 3 know this 1~BLESS ~
brakenlaker1 1 year ago
@brakenlaker1
Yes, I said "reign" in the Devil's case, "serve" for those who are below him in hell, it's logical, isn't it? Your conception of God seems to be one of an individual person; but if you reflect upon it, you'll realize that God is totally transcendent, unknowable & beyond our comprehension. That's why Jesus came as man. About the message you sent me, asking if I had asked Jesus into my heart: well, no, I didn't. But then He asked me tho', so it's alright, I guess. Thanks for asking
kidcalabria 1 year ago
@jennyrgar You know you sound like one of Alester crowley's students.We are all gods?That huge crater on earth is i bet from after lucifer's fall to earth.
MajesticMist 1 year ago
i like this dude, but is all this true or did u make it up.
HAT3L0v3 2 years ago
To the best of my ability, it is based on the Scriptures and orthodoxy.
amessenger4god 2 years ago
no, the bible has been manipulated. the truth is exactly what you think it is. we were always free and someone is repressing the true power and freedom of humans for control.
jennyrgar 2 years ago
@jennyrgar not really, we were told that we were free, but in reality we just didn't knew any better. this is because we only knew "good" . After Lucifer told us that we would be like god if we ate the apple and we ate it, we became like god, because we had knowledge of good and evil, realizing that god has all the power and we are nothing but puppets controlled by how ever he wanted, I mean we have free will, but only of the little knowledge tha he give us
775gary 2 years ago
edgar cayce explains the general story, nice and simple: orign of humans. but man o man let me tall ya, there are other details, and so much more magic, not by magic, but by the truth of fucking the universe. but anyway, we were already gods, who initially became tempted by the sons of man on earth. the mixture mixed the makeup of our minds. its fucking ruined everything. every human's mind is a ratio of part man, part god. right brain/left.
jennyrgar 2 years ago
@jennyrgar
I lol'd.
Skrothn 1 year ago
jesus, and other forms, tried to remind us, every attempt to remind us that we are free, and have the power to escape this world has been smeared. we hold the power of god within us. all knowledge, all available genius of any sort is a possibility within us, being a natural part of the universe. the devil convinced us, after our first curious mistake, that we are nothing but hollow helpless people. and that is why, controlling us is not a stage for him. power over us, is his own definition
jennyrgar 2 years ago
u know what gary.
next time please add the following statement preceding any statement u write/say to anyone and anything:
"I am a child, please exuse my illogical opinions, they are unresearched, and simply come from my human need to say anything my mind comes up with; and as it does, i create whatever sense i can find of things and it will probably kill my sense of reality by the time i reach your age - but leave that to my mind, itll cure itself".
ur useless without God kid.
iuzarneim 1 year ago
AND, ur way of viewing God is one of the main reasons God allowed and will continue to allow knowledge to advance to VERY unique high places among mankind. It is to prove to mankind that they were not created to KNOW - but to love.
piss head.
wake UP!!! or just shrivel away and stay away with ur comments that could only make a roach agree and nothing more.
iuzarneim 1 year ago
well we will never know what we are missing cuz we don't know i Just refuse to live like a mortal, I mean, even if we mortals were once again perfect, we still be weak, we still made out of flesh and would not fly. you may think it's a beautiful thing to be perfect and not have any problems and agree that you don't care to know and just live with god happy, how ever i refuse to live in a place were im inferior under the full control of god, you see, he is the leader and we his slaves :(
775gary 1 year ago
i dont see the "I am a child" statement anywhere so i'm not wasting my time reading even though; as i skimmed over the first 10 words, the thought of puking insanely became pleasant.
last time i puked was 14 yrs ago.
iuzarneim 1 year ago
@iuzarneim that's because im not a child, im sorry to hear about your puking problems
but you must see to understand completely what im talking about, we are gods children, children that have no option but to live however gods, desires, he can destroy us all or make us happy, we have no say in this world, thus only being what ever gods desires,dont you want to became free? free of all were you can be as you were meant to be? @_@
775gary 1 year ago
you just contradicted yourself:
"we are gods children, children that have NO OPTION but to live however gods, desires, he can destroy us all or make us happy, WE HAVE NO SAY in this world"
then you ask: "dont you want to become free?"
Very confusing statetements when delivered together. But then again, Christians are a very confused bunch of people to begin with. As you make so ostentatiously clear with your post.
ps make sure you look that word up: its ostentatious.
LV07TSK 1 year ago
@iuzarneim
you see, god gives you happiness to confuse you and make you feel like all you need is happiness, but in reality he is just not letting you see the truth, the truth is that you can be god or god like if you refuse his offer
keep living with your eyes close seeing what he want you to see and feel, I however know what he does not want me to know and im happy to know what I know
775gary 1 year ago
so what u r saying is.
u dont know the truth because god has poked ur eyes out.
well my friend, i sell eyes on ebay.
ill give you a deal to show my pity.
k?
iuzarneim 1 year ago
nah im jus kiddin.
i hear ya.
so listen up my child.
God doesnt hate you or teach you wrong.
this is the work of the devil. he is a sly little angel who knows only to destroy anything or anyone good.
and that was how mankind was destroyed. picture it this way, u own a dog, ur friend owns a better dog, it is perfect actually. but in its perfectness, it CAN be destroyed. anything CREATED can be destroyed, put that in your logic by the way.
iuzarneim 1 year ago
moving on, so u destroy it out of whatever reason - then, ur friend brings it back to health but all of its offspring is born in its wrecked state.
u my friend, need to be fixed =D
until then, u will always see things broken and in a hurt sense of way, because ur owner apprently "allowed" u to be broken.
this is where every1 who thinks like you, messes up.
u have to realize that u r not all powerful and in control, there R powers above you and beyond lol. there will always be.
iuzarneim 1 year ago
accept who u r, a sinner; come to christ, ask questions, receive answers, and live.
dont just put ur head down and study the meaningless yet beautiful boring rocks as u stand, thinking u r walking.
;)
DO IT!
iuzarneim 1 year ago
@iuzarneim
I appreciate your kindness and understanding, however, I just know what we mortals were never supposed to know, I have see things and felt things that were unknown to the mortal soul. I have know what my purpose is, and have see god taking it away and making me
775gary 1 year ago
Nice fairytale!! Tell us another one pleeeease!!
The problem is that you take jesus christ as a god and not as an example of how people should live in love and solidarity!
Jesus was a great radical, among other ancients, and just another one of us who lived on this planet!! Nothing more, nothing less...
I think every man is a god and our race doesn't need gods, masters n fairytales... church and religions give birth to racism, discriminations and hate!
merminx 2 years ago
true. jesus is not a god he never claimed to be. he said he was the son of jehova the true god. but alot of religions say they were the same person alot of religions are fake they are there to stop you from bealieving the truth. but if you really want to know just read the bible its alot easier than going to a church with a gauy who just trying to take your money. jesus said dont give money to the church. its in the bible. jesus before he came here he was named michael. yeah he the archangel
killerdemon227 2 years ago
He claimed to be God numerous times and in almost every way imaginable. He claimed to be "I AM" at least 8 times. He claimed to be the forigver of sins, the Lord of the Sabbath, the Savior of Israel, the King of the Jews... not to mention many other titles that He and His followers bestowed that only belong to God. He was directly called "God" by His apostle AND worshipped and He accepted it.
Is the offspring of a dog a squirrel? No. So the offspring of God is God. Begotten not made.
amessenger4god 2 years ago
@merminx Without God, there is hate, for he IS love and the enemy hates anything Godly; therefore is hate. God did not give birth to what you've uneducately stated, Satan did.
bremp3 2 years ago
he was a small little bearded lizard. thrown towards earth.
smashed against the blue water which was probably not salty.
sunk into da bottom of the ocean between the alien world and the fish world.
and my poem ends here.
iuzarneim 2 years ago
So many people claim to talk to god. And you believe them? The same men who claimed to talk to god enforced the release letter. Saying that if they PAY MONEY to the church all their sins will be washed away. Honestly, are you serious?
Oh and im NOT atheist :).
I am very spiritual and i DO believe there is more to life than what we see. A universal consciousness so to say :).
rosenti 2 years ago
IM with you! lol
titanic1224 2 years ago
I AGREE with you, rosenti--also, most people don't realize that the bible has been revised, sections taken out, ect.--like, for instance: "reincarnation"...also, remember: the POS bush said that he was told to attack Iraq...by god...anybody who believes that has GOT to be BRAINDEAD!!!!
richardhenly 2 years ago
@richardhenly I didn't realize POS Bush actually said that xD! All i can say is i would burst out into laughter right in his face if i had the chance xD.
rosenti 2 years ago
Ok... so Stalin was possessed by the devil - against whom was he fighting again? Ah right! Hitler! So Hitler must have been some kind of gods allied (slaughtering millions of people)!
That argumentation is just as absurd as this video...
However, stick to your ridiculous belief as long as you don't effect others...
Stugae 2 years ago
@Stugae evil is never God's ally fool.
You think like a child.
the devil plays with ALL humans to do his will.
just because one important man was evil doesnt mean his enemy was the devil's enemy.
where the shiznit did you get that from? lol seriously, youtube needs adults to comment, not kids or ignorant adults.
quit huffin, it makes you dumber. and dumber and dumber.
iuzarneim 2 years ago
Okay... i guess you didn't get my point. I even said my argumentation is absurd (just read my comment again), in some areas of the you world call it irony - I don't know if you heard about it. To clarify it for you - I wanted to say that blaiming evil to some kind metaphysical being is simply ridiculous - especially by taking examples as Marx. Marx saw the misery of workers in his surrounding and searched ways to improve their situation. How the hell can you call this evil? I hope you get it now
Stugae 2 years ago
Even the bible? A book written by mankind which whom has imperfect knowledge. If you rely your thoughts and views on a book written by man. Then this discussion can't go any further :). I respect you believe in the bible if it contributes you to being a better person. But i can honestly say i don't believe in the bible.
So, thank you for our talk and have a nice day :D.
rosenti 2 years ago
That's your subjective opinion. Of course the Bible was written by men, but men who were inspired and writing authoritatively through the Holy Spirit. What separates the Bible from all other religious books is that it is thoroughly confirmed through: prophecy, archaeology, history, MSS accuracy, etc...
And of course we should love and be "moral", but where does love and morality come from? Certainly not thin air. If there is no eternal God, then "love" and "morals" are purely subjective.
amessenger4god 2 years ago