Pelosi stated we need to pass the health care bill to see what's in it. The very heart of the Republic is now in jeopardy. A singular,specific,proposed bill has very specific requirements for compliance/passage with the recording of members votes in both houses. No policies have ever been enacted without the passage of specific statutes. This is the greatest Constitutional crisis in our nations history, no laws, just tyrannical rule.
The unconstitutional implementation of this process is effectively imposing Marshall Law. We are looking at collusion between separate branches of government to conspire to circumvent the law. This is lawlessness of the highest order! Patriots be prepared!
No, the Hyde Amendment prevents MEDICARE from paying for abortion, but does not apply to the Demoncrats' HealthScare bill at. If the Demoncrats pass their tyrannical bill, taxpayers would be FORCED to pay for abortion. Stupak is being intelligent, truthful, vigilant, heroic, and honorable.
And abortion is absolutely MURDER. Only the tyranny of Roe v Wade prevents the states from prosecuting abortion for the horrendous crime that it truly is.
You are incorrect, the Hyde Amendment bars ALL federal funding of abortion, so Stupak needs to learn about the law and then understand his "religious" goal is already covered.
Ah, it's the Nation's Healthcare Bill, not the Democrats... as a NATION we want coverage so we can get our society healthy and competitive again.
And don't be absurd, abortion is a needed service to keep families happy and healthy. It's never been considered murder by anyone that is educated.
The Hyde Amendment only applies to Medicare, not to the additional programs in this health care Deform bill. Furthermore, the Hyde Amendment may not be renewed. So Stupak's opposition is completely appropriate and absolutely necessary.
As a nation, we want to not be FORCED to pay for the murder of innocent children. Elective abortion is an intolerable evil that serves NO purpose. It is only a "service" for spoiled narcissistic BRATS with no self-control.
No, Hyde bans all fed funds for abortion so there is nothing to worry about. And where are you getting this murder stuff? It makes you sound uneducated.
Abortion is important to keep families healthy and happy, plus it cuts down on poverty and crime. So it's an important part of keeping society successful.
No, Hyde can ONLY ban funds for programs that existed at the time of Hyde passing. Serious men like Stupak would not be worrying about "nothing".
Abortion is murder. That makes a realist and a moral person. Abortion keeps people spoiled and narcissistic. There is NOTHING positive nor necessary about evil. It is completely evil. And it makes you sound EVIL when you try to excuse such a barbaric practice.
Add public fund to assisting unwanted pregnancy. Social stigma and economic conditions are the main causes for abortion. It is in our training and population psychology. Without open and welcome of assistance and education, illegal abortion cases will increase and it is very unfair to women. Hypocrite establishments in religious are actually killing people in- and out-side of their faith groups.
@herbs814 1st, the hyde amendment makes this nonsense irrelevant. second, the language in the senate bill disallows federal funding for abortion. third, stupak couldn't fix it through reconciliation even if he wanted to. reconciliation is only allowed for budget-related matters. stupak wants to make it so a woman couldn't use her OWN money to pay for abortions if they also receive federal benefits. it's a backdoor attempt to outlaw abortion and it will fail.
The Hyde Amendment does not apply to any current legislation. The senate bill allows funding for abortion and must be defeated. Stupak is a hero for saving innocent life from selfish narcissistic BRATS who want to use taxpayer money to murder their children. Unfortunately, it does not criminalize abortion. And anyone who receives a dime of federal funding SHOULD be prevented from paying for the murder of innocent children with taxpayer dollars. Praise God for heroes like Stupak.
your assertion about hyde has no basis in fact, but that doesn't matter a bit to you. you believe so much in the righteousness of your cause that any lie, any action is justified. fortunately, it looks like stupak was bluffing about the number of votes he had and he appears doomed to failure.
The Hyde Amendment only applied to law that existed at the time of the Amendment. It does not in any way apply to the current healthScare bill. That is why Stupak's amendment is absolutely necessary to maintain the intention of the Hyde Amendment and apply it to the proposed legislation as well. Stupak is doing the right thing by insisting that the intention of Hyde be honored.
Pelosi is short of the votes she needs. Stupak's coalition is holding up. America rejects Obamacare.
you are simply wrong about the hyde amendment. it prohibits federal funding for abortion. period. it's not a gray area and you have already essentially said you would say or do anything to eliminate abortion.
stupak's amendment goes way, way, way beyond hyde. he would prohibit women from using their OWN money to pay for abortions if they receive other federal health aid. and even if he wanted to, stupak couldn't pass that amendment through reconciliation.
No, the Hyde Amendment only applies to programs that already exist. The Stupak Amendment is absolutely necessary.
Stupak's amendment would prevent "women" from using TAXPAYER money for abortions. Stupak's Amendment is absolutely appropriate to protect taxpayers. To PRETEND otherwise is to argue for the right to STEAL from taxpayers. That is just evil.
It is morally imperative that the Stupak amendment must be attached to the bill. Either add the Stupak amendment or KILL THE BILL!!
Well, Stupak WAS doing the right thing when he refused to vote for the bill. Then he sold out for a worthless executive order. Stupak betrayed his supposed principles. And he will pay for this betrayal at the ballot box.
OBAMA
WEINER
2012
YES WE CAN
AwsmUsername 1 year ago
@herbs814
Perhaps he would pay at the ballot box...
if he wasn't retiring.
TheMac794 1 year ago
Pelosi stated we need to pass the health care bill to see what's in it. The very heart of the Republic is now in jeopardy. A singular,specific,proposed bill has very specific requirements for compliance/passage with the recording of members votes in both houses. No policies have ever been enacted without the passage of specific statutes. This is the greatest Constitutional crisis in our nations history, no laws, just tyrannical rule.
bigdogphoto 1 year ago
The unconstitutional implementation of this process is effectively imposing Marshall Law. We are looking at collusion between separate branches of government to conspire to circumvent the law. This is lawlessness of the highest order! Patriots be prepared!
bigdogphoto 1 year ago
my stupak weiner is sticky
pervertedmind 1 year ago
There is already no federal funding of abortion, so this Stupak guy is clueless. PASS the Bill so we can become healthy & competitive again.
maciindrew 2 years ago
@maciindrew
The Demoncrats' bill WOULD provide funding for abortion (the murder of innocent children). So Stupak is a HERO.
herbs814 2 years ago
No, the Hyde Amendment of 1976 prevents the federal funding of abortion, so Stupak is just being an idiot.
And get an education, abortion is not murder, a baby has to be "born" before it can be considered "murder". Geesh!
maciindrew 2 years ago
@maciindrew
No, the Hyde Amendment prevents MEDICARE from paying for abortion, but does not apply to the Demoncrats' HealthScare bill at. If the Demoncrats pass their tyrannical bill, taxpayers would be FORCED to pay for abortion. Stupak is being intelligent, truthful, vigilant, heroic, and honorable.
And abortion is absolutely MURDER. Only the tyranny of Roe v Wade prevents the states from prosecuting abortion for the horrendous crime that it truly is.
herbs814 2 years ago
You are incorrect, the Hyde Amendment bars ALL federal funding of abortion, so Stupak needs to learn about the law and then understand his "religious" goal is already covered.
Ah, it's the Nation's Healthcare Bill, not the Democrats... as a NATION we want coverage so we can get our society healthy and competitive again.
And don't be absurd, abortion is a needed service to keep families happy and healthy. It's never been considered murder by anyone that is educated.
maciindrew 2 years ago
@maciindrew
The Hyde Amendment only applies to Medicare, not to the additional programs in this health care Deform bill. Furthermore, the Hyde Amendment may not be renewed. So Stupak's opposition is completely appropriate and absolutely necessary.
As a nation, we want to not be FORCED to pay for the murder of innocent children. Elective abortion is an intolerable evil that serves NO purpose. It is only a "service" for spoiled narcissistic BRATS with no self-control.
herbs814 2 years ago
No, Hyde bans all fed funds for abortion so there is nothing to worry about. And where are you getting this murder stuff? It makes you sound uneducated.
Abortion is important to keep families healthy and happy, plus it cuts down on poverty and crime. So it's an important part of keeping society successful.
maciindrew 2 years ago
@maciindrew
No, Hyde can ONLY ban funds for programs that existed at the time of Hyde passing. Serious men like Stupak would not be worrying about "nothing".
Abortion is murder. That makes a realist and a moral person. Abortion keeps people spoiled and narcissistic. There is NOTHING positive nor necessary about evil. It is completely evil. And it makes you sound EVIL when you try to excuse such a barbaric practice.
herbs814 2 years ago
@ Herbs814 I agree with you!
nucleophilic03 1 year ago
Add public fund to assisting unwanted pregnancy. Social stigma and economic conditions are the main causes for abortion. It is in our training and population psychology. Without open and welcome of assistance and education, illegal abortion cases will increase and it is very unfair to women. Hypocrite establishments in religious are actually killing people in- and out-side of their faith groups.
beancube2010 2 years ago 2
Stupack is a Taliban. How Christian to take away health care from your constituents just to score a religious point.
frigoria 2 years ago
@frigoria
Stupak is a HERO. The Demoncrats' bill is so terrible that smart Democrats don't even want to vote for it.
herbs814 2 years ago
@herbs814 1st, the hyde amendment makes this nonsense irrelevant. second, the language in the senate bill disallows federal funding for abortion. third, stupak couldn't fix it through reconciliation even if he wanted to. reconciliation is only allowed for budget-related matters. stupak wants to make it so a woman couldn't use her OWN money to pay for abortions if they also receive federal benefits. it's a backdoor attempt to outlaw abortion and it will fail.
tishhead 1 year ago
@tishhead
The Hyde Amendment does not apply to any current legislation. The senate bill allows funding for abortion and must be defeated. Stupak is a hero for saving innocent life from selfish narcissistic BRATS who want to use taxpayer money to murder their children. Unfortunately, it does not criminalize abortion. And anyone who receives a dime of federal funding SHOULD be prevented from paying for the murder of innocent children with taxpayer dollars. Praise God for heroes like Stupak.
herbs814 1 year ago
your assertion about hyde has no basis in fact, but that doesn't matter a bit to you. you believe so much in the righteousness of your cause that any lie, any action is justified. fortunately, it looks like stupak was bluffing about the number of votes he had and he appears doomed to failure.
tishhead 1 year ago
@tishhead
The Hyde Amendment only applied to law that existed at the time of the Amendment. It does not in any way apply to the current healthScare bill. That is why Stupak's amendment is absolutely necessary to maintain the intention of the Hyde Amendment and apply it to the proposed legislation as well. Stupak is doing the right thing by insisting that the intention of Hyde be honored.
Pelosi is short of the votes she needs. Stupak's coalition is holding up. America rejects Obamacare.
herbs814 1 year ago
you are simply wrong about the hyde amendment. it prohibits federal funding for abortion. period. it's not a gray area and you have already essentially said you would say or do anything to eliminate abortion.
stupak's amendment goes way, way, way beyond hyde. he would prohibit women from using their OWN money to pay for abortions if they receive other federal health aid. and even if he wanted to, stupak couldn't pass that amendment through reconciliation.
tishhead 1 year ago
@tishhead
No, the Hyde Amendment only applies to programs that already exist. The Stupak Amendment is absolutely necessary.
Stupak's amendment would prevent "women" from using TAXPAYER money for abortions. Stupak's Amendment is absolutely appropriate to protect taxpayers. To PRETEND otherwise is to argue for the right to STEAL from taxpayers. That is just evil.
It is morally imperative that the Stupak amendment must be attached to the bill. Either add the Stupak amendment or KILL THE BILL!!
herbs814 1 year ago
@herbs814
Well, Stupak WAS doing the right thing when he refused to vote for the bill. Then he sold out for a worthless executive order. Stupak betrayed his supposed principles. And he will pay for this betrayal at the ballot box.
herbs814 1 year ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
This is not a democracy It is a Republic Weiner Get it straight!
BeantownJim 2 years ago
what a dumb comment. Try taking a class in government outside of elementary school.
daderone 2 years ago
EU just went belly up with their unification Expect this country to turn total conservative! hahaha you left wing loonies better hide!
BeantownJim 2 years ago
touche you really are as dumb as I thought. Thankfully some of us can understand things larger then a grain of sand.
Expect to be alone and bitter. Seem to be progressing wonderfully in that direction
daderone 2 years ago
Climategate?
BeantownJim 2 years ago
wow you topped your own stupidity with one word. congrats.
daderone 1 year ago
hmm just wow
EclipseTyrant 2 years ago
socialism doesn't pay!
BeantownJim 2 years ago