I wish Reagan were here to raise taxes. I mean how is it possible to have lower taxes under Obama than under Reagan. It's just sad. I wish I could get people to willingly pay higher taxes.
WHAT CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW: When working class peoples' taxes go up, their wages go up. This is called "WAGE INFLATION" The opposite is true when taxes go down for the working class.. When taxes go down for the wealthiest there is a sudden surge in the markets followed by a GREAT DEPRESSION. Examples of this: Great Depression(1929), Reagan and Bush Jr, era depressions. CONCLUSION: Higher taxes create prosperity, lower taxes create economic DEPRESSIONS.
We could never continue on as a country with the amount of taxes we are currently paying on average. This year 47% of the population paid no taxes and it had nothing to do with Obama. It was the Bush legacy cuts still in place giving us more money back than what we paid in which is totally fiscally irresponsible. On top of all this now Obama is has already spent our future. It is over folks and we all better run for the spam,water and guns.
I do not like Obama! He is a very bad man and people need to wake up! You know one day you might be living on the streets because od Obama! And now he changed the name of patiots day to something about him! What a dictator douch
Now you know what real debt is. Obama is spending so much, China has said it would limit buying any more of our debt. The USA will soon lose it's AAA credit rating. Obama may actually destroy the economy. But hey, he is cool, right?
Obama PROMISED no more taxes and that 95 percent of us would have a reduction in taxes that was before he was elected. Now look what hes doing spending is off the chart with no end in sight and theyre looking for every possibly way to apply new taxes. Is this the change Americans voted for?
Yes you are being favored, but it has bred some of you (not all) that dies not have what it takes to even make a living, we have brought down requirements so you and your kind can even get into college sometimes. If it were not for the white man and the black man that are smarter than you you would be going hungry. Just look at the places where the blacks are the ruling people, most are in starvation.
I can't believe that there are silly people who say that we should all pay more taxes. That's a socialist mindset because anyone who wants to pay more taxes can already do that. The gov won't refuse to take their money. It's just odd they want the rest of us to pay higher taxes against our will. That's very intrusive! That's pure socialism
@label1877 Yea, bush cut the taxes... of the wealthy and almost all the wealthy. If you know a single thing about economics you need to realize that in a recession taxes are mandatory to jump start the economy. I think you're using the people ride welfare excuse which is bs. 75% of people on welfare have a barely sustainable income of 30,00$ a year in which welfare only covers 17,000 of it. You need to get a job to survive, and unemployment eventually expires. Learn the facts asshole.
If Obama wins and sticks to his plans regarding higher taxes for small businesses grossing 250,000, we are going to be in a world of hurt. It is not difficult for small businesses to gross that. After deducting payroll, payroll taxes, utilities, insurance, ads, building repair,supplies, etc etc, the NET amount the business makes is not very much. Add a fine for not providing employees with health insurance. There will be massive unemployment when small businesses close their doors.
You have to understand, Obama is not trying to help small business, nor any business. He intends to move the nation to Government Businesses, which can be controlled to ensure fairness. I don't know why those that voted for him hate this idea so much, that's exactly what his extreme left view dictates.
My comment was written prior to the election. And I was (still am) concerned about what he will do to/for small businesses. Not sure I understand the implication of your last sentence. "I don't know why those that voted for him hate this idea so much, that's exactly what his extreme left view dictates." If you are assuming that I voted for him...you know that old saying about what happens when you assume, right? lol Take care!
Not at all, I was only hoping to strengthen your point. I simply do not comprehend why so few are willing to say that they voted for a man with his views. Instead they make him out to be Reagan, which simply is not the case.
Okay, thanks for the clarification. And I totally agree with you. Most people who voted for him couldn't really give a real reason why they were voting for him.
I would venture to say many that voted form him were really voting against George Bush! The Iraq war, Fannie, and being an african american won Obama this election.
Wow... you all know Teddy Roosevelt (R) created the 'progressive tax system'... right? "History majors??" You know John McCain defended this (before he drank the kool-aid). "Rich people" are going nowhere. Companies will go nowhere. We will NOT become socialist or communist... we've got checks and balances folks. Read the Constitution. Obama does. Palin dosn't. Chill out. Grow up.
obama reads the constitution? his idea of constitution is taking a dump at the same time every morning. he thinks the Supreme Court should redistribute money, not enforce the constitution. he has no knowledge of ehat the constitution is.
Ahh... ok. Why educate yourself? Ignorance is so much more fun and makes it easier to rant! You worry about money you don't have being redistributed and the rest of us will take care of everything else.
parosiak, to be clear on Obama's plan for Supreme Court nominations...
"We need somebody who's got the heart, the empathy to know what it's like to be a teenage mom, the empathy to understand what it's like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that's the criteria by which I'm going to be selecting my judges."
JUSTICE is supposed to be BLIND. Justices are supposed to uphold the Constitution, period.
Obama has no interest in this, he wants to buy votes.
Here, again sailcats77, you're wrong in your summary. So first you comment he's going to punish the poor and then you comment that by finding a justice who is EMPATHETIC to someone poor he's wrong again. I don't think you know what you mean. Justice SHOULD be 'blind', but it's handed out by people who are not. Also, it was written when we had slaves, women were not allowed to vote, and we NEEDED the ability to form a militia. None of that exists anymore, so taking it 'by the letter' is naive.
He's also on track to further contaminate our Supreme Court, which is indeed supposed to be blind to race, age, etc & only supposed to uphold or strike down laws according to what?... CONSTITUTIONALITY.
In mentioning the militia I suppose you're bringing up the 2nd Amend, which is truly an individual right. It's clear UR out of touch thinking this naive. The 2nd Amend is the right that guarantees all others.
LOL... wow. I think I gave you too much credit. I HAVE been poor. So, btw, has Obama and his wife. McCain... never. I've also been to AZ and there the crime rate is high and public schools are a joke. And, as to the 2nd, does that mean that I have a right to do with my body what I wish? Not saying I'd have considered an Abortion (my Mom taught me about birth control and I always knew my 'choice'), but since it's mine... that's my right to consider. No one elses. Right?
parosiak, sure T.Roosevelt was repub but it's misleading to attribute supposedly constant philosophies to parties. They change drastically. T.Roosevelt was NOT conservative obviously.
You're right, rich ppl aren't going away. But middle class JOBS go away EVERY time taxes are raised on companies and the rich.
And to clarify, it IS socialist for govt to compel some people to pay to provide needs for others. Obama is for socializing the US even more than it is now.
sailcats77... I AM Middle Class. Upper, I guess, now but born lower. Worked, hard, to earn my way up (no degree). Over the past 8 years companies were offered incentives to ship jobs overseas and the rich were taxed less... and where did our jobs go. Get your details straight.
"past 8 years companies offered incentives to ship jobs overseas & rich were taxed less... and where did our jobs go. Get your details straight."
Some straight details:
High company taxation has indeed forced companies to outsource jobs. Obama's plan to raise corp taxes will bring more of the same. So few ppl realize that PEOPLE pay every dime of corp taxes, for instance in lost jobs.
Also, the tax burden on the rich is higher now than ever. Top 50% of earners pay 97% of income taxes...
Well... at least 'debating' with you is fun since you're not just "HE'S A MUSLIM". OK... it'd be nice to just say "it's the taxes" that caused companies to close or ship overseas. But, common, you don't sound ignorant so you know... it's never one thing. Couldn't have been greed of executives or mis-management (or, sometimes, greed of Union bosses). Nope, just taxes. Wow... how could I have been so foolish. Saw you had another response so I'll continue there... running out of room here.
When the Bush tax cuts were implemented, it did indeed lower the RATE of taxation on the rich. But that resulted in more economic activity, which in turn resulted in the rich having MORE of the tax burden than lower/mid income people.
Don't fall into the Obama confusion-trap where you equate a RATE with overall cost.
When Obama raises business taxes, those businesses will quite simply lay ppl off. That will be how businesses save costs in order to pay the taxes
To continue, I'm not falling into any trap. Honestly, I'm as cautious about Obama as I am about McCain. BUT, I've worked for companies where management said "I KNOW WHAT TO DO" and I found... people who say that typically DON'T and within time, the company closed. Not because of taxes, because of poor management. McCain's constant assertion that he 'knows' and yet for 26 years he hasn't SHARED... that I find a bit troubling. As for Obama... maybe it's a leap. (More coming)
Your take on companies is telling actually. You sound as if working for a company who had bad leadership, was in some way a betrayal of you or other employees.
I'll point out that the SOLE purpose of most companies is to make as much $ as possible for its shareholders, whether publicly or privately owned.
The "greed" is what provides that motivation. I don't think it's greed, I call it drive to achieve.
jobs that are created, aren't for social gain, they're there to help the company achieve.
Unfortunately I'm running out of time but your last line is telling also. FYI... did see mismanagement (in a few companies), AM aware of shareholders and the rules. Have my own business.
If "jobs that are created, aren't for social gain, they're there to help the company achieve."... kinda reads like we're all just cogs in the Capitalist machine. I prefer the example of companies like Google. Employees are valued, ideas are shared and sought, good for one is good for all. Ciao.
"kinda reads like we're all just cogs in the Capitalist machine"
Oh I agree completely that employees should be valued, ideas shared, etc. I'm not at all saying employees shouldn't be. But ask Google founders... does Google exist to give people jobs, or to make money?
So when corp tax laws punish companies for creating jobs in the US, what's the logical thing for them to do? Outsource.
It's the GOVT that's the problem, not capitalism. As a business owner you know this.
I really have to go (need to go jogging). This is interesting but you're missing my point. Yes, we're out to make money BUT when that's the ONLY reason then someone is wrong. Here's my take... Obama is like a President of Google (who, btw, supports him)... share your ideas, lets work together so we ALL win. McCain is like all those executives who ran our companies into the ground. Old ideas and sure only HIS opinion matters. It's how I see it and I'm for the 'new ideas'.
parosiak, Obama does NOT want to make everyone win. He's said as much... he wants to take from some and give it to others. That's vote buying, using achievers' money.
McCain wants to cut taxes for all, and reduce govt spending. Obama wants to raise govt spending. McCain knows that we're out of control already. We already can't meet the future obligations of our social spending.
Again, corp execs sure helped run things to gnd, but govt was the root cause.
McCain's tax cuts are smaller for the middle class than Obama's. Obama's plan is just a return to Reagan-era levels.
Also, under Palin, Alaska took in more federal $ than it paid into the budget. Same with Oklahoma and many other "red" states. That means that I (a NY'er) had my wealth redistributed to those people. Should we call it socialism? Or welfare? Or does it not count, since we're taking away from places that aren't "real America?"
Sounds like you believe in what is fair, and when it comes down to it, the only thing that is "fair" is to have a set of rules that everyone is subject to. No one treated better or worse than anyone else. Sounds like a wonderful system to me, unfortunately, the USA is the closest thing we have, and it's a long shot from it.
...the latest example of govt interference causing market havoc is the finance market. Decades ago, the govt decided it would be a great idea to create the GSE's and make a requirement for them to finance loans to low to moderate income people. Their min % increased over yrs til in 2007, 56% of all loans they backed had to be to low-mod income ppl.
This undercut the free market driver of self-responsibility, which was the root cause of today's crisis.
I can't wait till this is over and McCain continues to backpeddle over the mess he made feeding the ignorant masses. He said, himself, on Larry King that Obama is no Socialist. If you want to get freaky, you can... but you're wrong. You're NOT wrong though that parties change. The OLD Democratic party was against Civil Rights. The OLD "GOP" was proud. Look at how times have changed.
McCain is too honorable to call Obama "socialist" but it's beyond doubt and beyond logic to think Obama's "spread the wealth" ideas are anything new, or anything but a clear march to socialism.
It breeds dependence on govt, which undercuts every adult's drive for self-reliance.
It takes more from achievers, thus discouraging achievement.
Why not just admit that if you want everyone to truly be all they can be, achievement must be encouraged, not punished.
No one is credibly saying that things like schools, roads, etc, even to extent social security, should go away. That's not at all in the realm of possibility right now.
What we're saying is we're getting far too socialized. Federal spending is about 1/3 of our whole GDP. About 60% of that is all social spending.
That's FAR too much and continues to grow out of control. Obama will accelerate that growth, in turn punishing the achievement that makes the spending possible.
I see what you're afraid of, but I disagree. The only thing that stops one from attempting to achieve is ones self. Again, I DON'T want Socialism but I'm not afraid we're going there either. I do hope, if Obama wins come Tuesday, you give his ideas a chance. If he lied we'll all vote him out (gotta love that we can impeach). But what if he isn't and what if we really CAN change for the positive?
"I DON'T want Socialism but I'm not afraid we're going there either"
Glad you agree with not wanting it. I wouldn't say I'm "afraid" of anything, given I know the real power in this country is in the Peoples' hands. But Obama and a dem controlled congress could play havoc on our republic and the Peoples' freedoms.
Many jobs will be lost under Obama. We'll be "tested" as Biden warned. People will die. Our economy will decline. Our freedoms will likely be lost.
Ahh... EVERYONE says the new 'team' will be tested. REGARDLESS. I'm with the guy who can control his anger and seek other's opinions. Not the guy who needs to "WIN" something to make up for the foolish mistakes in Vietnam. And, btw, I'm an Army Brat (part of the reason we had no money) and my Dad did 3 tours.
"EVERYONE says the new 'team' will be tested. REGARDLESS."
Sorry, you just can't convince me that terrorists don't favor Obama over McCain. They know they'll have much more success with Obama.
If I'm a terrorist org, and I hate the US, and I have a choice between John McCain, and Barack Obama, I'm going to LOVE Obama b/c I know he'll just roll over. He's weak. You said it yourself, he'll tend to compromise with evil instead of fighting it relentlessly.
"Sorry, you just can't convince me that terrorists don't favor Obama over McCain. They know they'll have much more success with Obama." Well, respectfully, I disagree. Having lived overseas (where we had bomb threats to the base we lived on once a month) I wasn't surprised at 9/11. Saddened, yes, but not surprised. I do feel McCain would have responded better in '00 had he been President, but he's not the man today he was then. It's not the same world. We need new directions from our leaders.
Fair enough, but don't just consider my word. Hamas has specifically spoken out in favor of Obama. When terrorists endorse you, something's up. Seems to be a trend, given his relationship with Ayers, and makes sense, since any US hating group is going to be more attracted to a leader who wants to change it so much.
There's simply no doubt that Obama will appease instead of confront evil.
Look at Georgia. He called for restraint from the *invaded* country.
Check out the CNN special with 5 former Secretaries of State hosted by Christiane Amanpour (some support McCain, other's Obama)... you'll have to Google it for the transcript. They talk about many things, including Georgia (and restraint) there. Great special. Regarding Hamas for Obama, there's also Al Qaeda for McCain. Both ridiculous. As to Ayers I offer G. Gordon Liddy and Palin's scessionist hubby... and roll my eyes at all. I know to be cautious. Take care.
parosiak unfortunately it seems the koolaid is too much to give up ;-) lol
But consider, if obama is elected tomorrow, and then when our economy continues to tank due to his higher taxation, govt power grows due to his big govt, we collectively give up our rights for his welfare, & to appease other countries' wishes for us, etc...
Then will you consider if you could've been a bit more cautious turning over the world's most powerful position to someone like obama?
Does anyone actually believe, or even recall a politician keeping their promise not to raise taxes? What it really comes down to is do you want your tax increase to go towards helping your dying grandmother who NEEDS social, or to help pay for the mahogany deck on ted turner's new yacht?
The choice is clear: Ted Turner needs a new mahogany deck people, and that's a 160ft yacht, so bend over, cuz McCains gonna take it!
As a former Clinton supporter I am proud to say I now support McCain/Palin. The reason is primarily because the Dem Party has changed so much since the start of the primary season in 07 they no longer represent my ideas/ideals as a US citizen. Admittedly, the Rep Party does not represent all of them either but, I can honestly say Senator McCain or Sarah Palin do not scare me and Obama does. So, for now and the foreseeable future, I will be re-registering as an Independent and voting Rep.
In any plutocracy there is a constant need to keep the drones convinced their lives are better thanks to those in charge. To those of you who have lost your jobs in the past few years; to those of you who have lost their homes this year; to those of you who have returned from a war where you lost part of your soul; and to those of you who have lost husbands, wives, daughters, sons mothers and fathers in Iraq:
LET's SAY THANK YOU TO BARNEY FRANK, CHRIS DODD, GEORGE SORROS & all the other BLEEDING HEART LIBERALS THAT WON'T TAKE RESPONSIBILTY FOR THEIR ACTIONS! FANNIE MAE & FREDDIE MAC: headed-up by 2 people NOW on the OBAMA CAMPAIGN! BARNEY FRANK SAID NO to CONTROLS ON THOSE Grps NOT MORE THAN 3 MONTHS AGO! Corp. greed from DEMOCRAT CEO's ARE THE ONES YOU NEED TO LOOK AT! Allen Mullalay at FORD for instance! McNearney at BOEING! 2 YRS of CONGRESSIONAL CONTROL BY DEMOCRATS: lower ratings than BUSH!!
This isn't the worst of it, guys. Obama is MORE liberal the Bill Clinton. Furthermore, he'll have a senate majority backing him we haven't seen since- does this name bring back any nightmares- Lyndon Johnson. Great society? My a**! America, WAKE UP and regain control for the liberals completely wipe away what's left of our greatness. Bring back REAGAN style conservatism!
The companies just pass it on to us. And if Obama decides to raise our taxes because of all the programs he wants to start and he needs more money to do that we gt taxed twice. Not fun folks. You will pay both. Think about ti!!
All you people that want to see Obama raise taxes on companies and people over 250k per year are voting a tax on yourself. He is going to resind the bush tax cuts and raise taxes on business. What happens when you do that is the companies just raise there prices on goods and services to make up for there tax increase. We end up paying for that every time we buy something. It' a tax on us through proxy.
If people are willing to sacrifice their lives and fight for this country and protect the assets of the privileged, (and yes if you make over 250Gs you are privileged) the privileged should be willing to pay a little extra to help their fellow countrymen who are losing houses and jobs.
"Ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country."
It's not the so-called "privileged" people's responsibility to bail out everyone else. Taxing the wealthy to give it to the less wealthy is called re-distribution of wealth which is just a sugar-coated way of saying COMMUNISM. Besides if everyone is taxed the same percentage then someone making 250k is still giving more money than someone making 100k. People making more money work for it just like everyone else. It's not fair to say they have to pay more just because they can.
also if any small business hires in USA and not over seas get a tax cut if they have health care another cut
if they create a job in the company another cut. Bush cuts in place now trickle down to us nope big oil uped there prices at pumps & in our homes mcains cuts gives me 300. obamas over a thousand mcCain will make me pay 12 thousand for health care by making me loose health care through my Job by taxing it
Stme2008: does that say Styme? Meaning you don't know anything about the economy or how business is run? Yeah, You've drunk the KOOL-AID,Kid! $ make companies & individuals invest in themselves or others. Where in-turn that company hires new people: more profitable in production. When taxes applied on $250K, money goes away & so do the jobs!
GAS SPECULATORS SCREWED US ON PRICES. ALSO:
You DIDN'T LISTEN IN CLASS! DEMOCRATS SPEND/TAX want BIG GOVERNMENT. REPUBLICANS WANT SMALL GOV. LESS TAXES!
Obama's nothing but a Marxist tax and spend liberal that will wreck this country. We will go back to the Carter era policies of high taxes, high inflation, and high unemployment. Libs complain about a "Bush 3rd term", but Obama will be a Carter 2nd term.
True to his Marxist theology, Obama has another TAX that he has already introduced in the Sentate (S 2433): GLOBAL TAX to REDISTRIBUTE AMERICAN WEALTH ON A GLOBAL LEVEL! You can read (or listen) to a 20 part series of articles by Investors Business Daily called THE AUDACITY OF SOCIALISM.
Oxymoron here, if Obama is the most liberal senator yet one of the issues brought up is he is constantly not voting just stating he is here. How would you know he is the most liberal if he does not vote for a majority of issues?
They are fed by maintstream media in many cases, however people I speak with are not informed about the issues or their candidates. They don't seem to be interested in digging for facts, just hating President Bush.
Don't speak so fast. First..you've got to get up off of your brain, Usingabrain. But I would first use some brand flakes to clear out all the s_ _ t and then maybe you won't have a BRAIN FART! Obvious you did go to school, but probably were talking to that cute gal in row 2 in HISTORY CLASS, when you SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT MAKES THE WORLD GO ROUND! And you wonder why we are upset that people like you will be running the Sub-state of N. America when the Socialists take over?
when the rich get poorer the poor will starve! Remember that you fucking welfare asses when you pull the switch for Obama it will be like pulling your own switch to death. These same rich people Obama wants to steal from pays your fucking bills
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you mean theres people out there actually dumb enough to vote republican again after what Bush did? I knew rednecks were idiots but even I didn't think they were THAT dumb!
McCain and Palin are not Bush. You can't hold them accountable for decisions Bush has made. Don't think party, think who will do a better job and if you think Mr. Obama is the man that can get us out of this mess you are the only idiot I see.
For that matter, you can't really blame Bush. The President doesn't write the laws. Congress does. He only signs them. All the financial problems started under the Democrat's watch. Prior to 2006, we had a booming economy. I'm just wondering if raising the minimum wage is starting to have an effect on small businesses. It would explain why so many have lost their jobs lately.
Stryder, I have thought the same thing, too. You know raising the minimum wage has had to have an affect on small businesses. That's why the federal government has no business in telling businesses and corporations how to operate.
So how long you been a bigot?Besides with Acorn no worries right.Vote early vote often.Yes Barack is the one.The one that was with Ayers even knowing he was a terrorist.20 years with Wright.The only senator I know that has to take a guided tour to find out where the senate is.
Mc Cain has voted against his party, and Bush! obama on the other hand, has never voted against his party. When running for Senate, he promised to lower taxes, when elected only voted to raise them. I am an independent and would much rather have Mc Cain in office who does go against his party, than obama who has done nothing but hang with questionable people who hate our country. This is not a party/race issue! This is a voting for the person who has proven he is for our country! Wake up!
Blah, blah, blah... Obama!!! Talk, talk, talk,... You wouldn't be in this place if you and the DNC hadn't stolen the nomination from Hillary. Damn America, where are our heads? Nobama, no way and no how. McCain/Palin 08 to save "US"!!!
It seems that no matter how hard we try we just can't to get these "tax the rich" folks to understand how the real world works. Tax the rich that buy yachts and they will stop buying yachts which will put the people that build yachts OUT OF WORK. Get it?
There is excuse for stupidity they're born that way. There is no excuse for ignorance in the era of the internet.
90% of economists say the gas tax would do nothing. You'd get $40 if you were lucky.
Even Fox News has woken up to the FACT that Obama's plan increases taxes on those making more than $250,000/yr. Everyone else gets a cut.
Who's gonna pay for the war? Who's gonna pay for the bailout that turns America fully socialist? It's the policies of McCain's party that put us where we are. They let the foxes guard the hen house. Go team.
The prices will go up again cause your stupid Senator refuse's Off shore drilling. If Obama wins don't cry when your paying $8 a gallon for gas and his best answer is to inflate your tires.
Drilling offshore would take about seven years to ramp up before we saw a drop of oil. It's not Obama that says inflate your tires - it's the government of George Bush that says to do that. Are you really so brain dead that you think that would be Obama's WHOLE energy plan? Guess there must be a lot of people that believe it since the lie continues to get told.
Oh. Sorry! I forgot that Iraq was supposed to pay for itself, trickle down economics work and bush promised not to cum in my mouth.
Have ANY of you stopped to think about how bush has brought socialism to the US Government - pretty damn funny.
My family of four and I would live pretty well with $250,000. If you don't want taxes raised then walk to work and advocate isolationism - otherwise STFU.
The only taxes you like are the ones that benefit YOU or your company
I signed up for the news letters from Obama, Communists party and Frankin, but I still can't find the liberal talking points. Where do you get them? What site do you get the talking points from?
Which also includes small business owners whose profits will also fall under that $250K umbrella. Small businesses are the largest employer base in our country. Raising taxes in any way, shape, or form hurts our economy.
Wow! You slandered someone while decrying slander! That twist of logic was AWESOME!! I would give it an 8.9. (You seemed to wobble a bit on the landing)
Right on pah nice to see someone with eyes open to the truth. Did u know obama sites Saul Alinsky as one of his mentors? Alinksy dedicated his book Rules for Radicles to lucifer. Google the book, u can read the dedication. Not surprising when u see obama voted NO 3 times on Born Alive Infant Act. obama is The King of Abortion. "I don't want my daughters punished with a baby". He has the nerve to call himself a Christian when his actions show he is anything but a Christian. ANY LIE for a vote.
Obama wants a socialized country. Even mule teeth Michele said that those with a big pie need to share it with those with less or no pies. I worked HARD for my pie and I should not have to give it to those who sit on their butts, have loads of babies and wait for a check in the box every month. He will make sure that everyone has about the same income and pies! Funny in the last 4 years he has only given 1% of his 1.2 million dollar income to charity. So much for sharing his pie!
If BO eliminates Bush Tax cuts, immediately people with incomes down to $30K will pay $3500 more in taxes. Then he promises to give us $1000. Net effect= our taxes are up by $2500, not incuding the large capital gains tax hike he preposes. Also, if he attacks big oil, those taxes will just be passed on to us in the form of higher prices at the pump.
This man is too inexperienced and it is sad people are voting for him because of his color not his credentials!
I wish Reagan were here to raise taxes. I mean how is it possible to have lower taxes under Obama than under Reagan. It's just sad. I wish I could get people to willingly pay higher taxes.
NewWorldOrderRED 8 months ago
WHAT CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW: When working class peoples' taxes go up, their wages go up. This is called "WAGE INFLATION" The opposite is true when taxes go down for the working class.. When taxes go down for the wealthiest there is a sudden surge in the markets followed by a GREAT DEPRESSION. Examples of this: Great Depression(1929), Reagan and Bush Jr, era depressions. CONCLUSION: Higher taxes create prosperity, lower taxes create economic DEPRESSIONS.
poindexterwitkowsky 1 year ago 41
Making this guy President along with Biden and Pelosi is like turning off the electrical fence at Jurassic Park.
bob888907 1 year ago
Well taxes are probably going to go up....how else are we going to pay off all that debt....
prepschoolkid 1 year ago
im just waiting for the free college and $1000 dollars he promised all of us
CODPlayer434 1 year ago
We could never continue on as a country with the amount of taxes we are currently paying on average. This year 47% of the population paid no taxes and it had nothing to do with Obama. It was the Bush legacy cuts still in place giving us more money back than what we paid in which is totally fiscally irresponsible. On top of all this now Obama is has already spent our future. It is over folks and we all better run for the spam,water and guns.
abanikka 1 year ago
I do not like Obama! He is a very bad man and people need to wake up! You know one day you might be living on the streets because od Obama! And now he changed the name of patiots day to something about him! What a dictator douch
ThePrettyblackgirl 2 years ago
do you peeps know how to read tea leaves? they don't intend to pay it back, war+ debt repudiation=new world order.
fedtheend 2 years ago
Now you know what real debt is. Obama is spending so much, China has said it would limit buying any more of our debt. The USA will soon lose it's AAA credit rating. Obama may actually destroy the economy. But hey, he is cool, right?
label1877 2 years ago
Obama PROMISED no more taxes and that 95 percent of us would have a reduction in taxes that was before he was elected. Now look what hes doing spending is off the chart with no end in sight and theyre looking for every possibly way to apply new taxes. Is this the change Americans voted for?
wofasifu 2 years ago 2
everybody is so stupid........race is so fucking dumb...
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BLAZASQAUZA 2 years ago
Yes you are being favored, but it has bred some of you (not all) that dies not have what it takes to even make a living, we have brought down requirements so you and your kind can even get into college sometimes. If it were not for the white man and the black man that are smarter than you you would be going hungry. Just look at the places where the blacks are the ruling people, most are in starvation.
elephantear1 2 years ago
I can't believe that there are silly people who say that we should all pay more taxes. That's a socialist mindset because anyone who wants to pay more taxes can already do that. The gov won't refuse to take their money. It's just odd they want the rest of us to pay higher taxes against our will. That's very intrusive! That's pure socialism
ericjaynelson 2 years ago 2
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ivankaman21 2 years ago
psst, Dumbass. President Bush CUT your taxes. Obama promises to RAISE your taxes a TRILLION dollars so he can give more to people who refuse to work.
label1877 2 years ago 8
0bama is not a good president
ivankaman21 2 years ago
@label1877 Yea, bush cut the taxes... of the wealthy and almost all the wealthy. If you know a single thing about economics you need to realize that in a recession taxes are mandatory to jump start the economy. I think you're using the people ride welfare excuse which is bs. 75% of people on welfare have a barely sustainable income of 30,00$ a year in which welfare only covers 17,000 of it. You need to get a job to survive, and unemployment eventually expires. Learn the facts asshole.
tj012345678901234567 1 year ago
Hmm? Dude, at least think about reading your post.
tsmbuck 3 years ago
If Obama wins and sticks to his plans regarding higher taxes for small businesses grossing 250,000, we are going to be in a world of hurt. It is not difficult for small businesses to gross that. After deducting payroll, payroll taxes, utilities, insurance, ads, building repair,supplies, etc etc, the NET amount the business makes is not very much. Add a fine for not providing employees with health insurance. There will be massive unemployment when small businesses close their doors.
kittnluver 3 years ago 2
You have to understand, Obama is not trying to help small business, nor any business. He intends to move the nation to Government Businesses, which can be controlled to ensure fairness. I don't know why those that voted for him hate this idea so much, that's exactly what his extreme left view dictates.
tsmbuck 3 years ago 3
tsmbuck,
My comment was written prior to the election. And I was (still am) concerned about what he will do to/for small businesses. Not sure I understand the implication of your last sentence. "I don't know why those that voted for him hate this idea so much, that's exactly what his extreme left view dictates." If you are assuming that I voted for him...you know that old saying about what happens when you assume, right? lol Take care!
kittnluver 3 years ago
Not at all, I was only hoping to strengthen your point. I simply do not comprehend why so few are willing to say that they voted for a man with his views. Instead they make him out to be Reagan, which simply is not the case.
tsmbuck 3 years ago
Okay, thanks for the clarification. And I totally agree with you. Most people who voted for him couldn't really give a real reason why they were voting for him.
kittnluver 3 years ago
I would venture to say many that voted form him were really voting against George Bush! The Iraq war, Fannie, and being an african american won Obama this election.
mrhoffame 2 years ago
Wow... you all know Teddy Roosevelt (R) created the 'progressive tax system'... right? "History majors??" You know John McCain defended this (before he drank the kool-aid). "Rich people" are going nowhere. Companies will go nowhere. We will NOT become socialist or communist... we've got checks and balances folks. Read the Constitution. Obama does. Palin dosn't. Chill out. Grow up.
parosiak 3 years ago
obama reads the constitution? his idea of constitution is taking a dump at the same time every morning. he thinks the Supreme Court should redistribute money, not enforce the constitution. he has no knowledge of ehat the constitution is.
thordoggie 3 years ago
Ahh... ok. Why educate yourself? Ignorance is so much more fun and makes it easier to rant! You worry about money you don't have being redistributed and the rest of us will take care of everything else.
parosiak 3 years ago
yup ignorance is fun. ignorance is bliss. you must be the happiest person on earth.
thordoggie 3 years ago
LOL. Whatever guy.
parosiak 3 years ago
parosiak, to be clear on Obama's plan for Supreme Court nominations...
"We need somebody who's got the heart, the empathy to know what it's like to be a teenage mom, the empathy to understand what it's like to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that's the criteria by which I'm going to be selecting my judges."
JUSTICE is supposed to be BLIND. Justices are supposed to uphold the Constitution, period.
Obama has no interest in this, he wants to buy votes.
sailcats77 3 years ago
Here, again sailcats77, you're wrong in your summary. So first you comment he's going to punish the poor and then you comment that by finding a justice who is EMPATHETIC to someone poor he's wrong again. I don't think you know what you mean. Justice SHOULD be 'blind', but it's handed out by people who are not. Also, it was written when we had slaves, women were not allowed to vote, and we NEEDED the ability to form a militia. None of that exists anymore, so taking it 'by the letter' is naive.
parosiak 3 years ago
parosiak I know what I mean.
Obama will punish the poor. They'll lose jobs.
He's also on track to further contaminate our Supreme Court, which is indeed supposed to be blind to race, age, etc & only supposed to uphold or strike down laws according to what?... CONSTITUTIONALITY.
In mentioning the militia I suppose you're bringing up the 2nd Amend, which is truly an individual right. It's clear UR out of touch thinking this naive. The 2nd Amend is the right that guarantees all others.
sailcats77 3 years ago
LOL... wow. I think I gave you too much credit. I HAVE been poor. So, btw, has Obama and his wife. McCain... never. I've also been to AZ and there the crime rate is high and public schools are a joke. And, as to the 2nd, does that mean that I have a right to do with my body what I wish? Not saying I'd have considered an Abortion (my Mom taught me about birth control and I always knew my 'choice'), but since it's mine... that's my right to consider. No one elses. Right?
parosiak 3 years ago
parosiak, sure T.Roosevelt was repub but it's misleading to attribute supposedly constant philosophies to parties. They change drastically. T.Roosevelt was NOT conservative obviously.
You're right, rich ppl aren't going away. But middle class JOBS go away EVERY time taxes are raised on companies and the rich.
And to clarify, it IS socialist for govt to compel some people to pay to provide needs for others. Obama is for socializing the US even more than it is now.
sailcats77 3 years ago
sailcats77... I AM Middle Class. Upper, I guess, now but born lower. Worked, hard, to earn my way up (no degree). Over the past 8 years companies were offered incentives to ship jobs overseas and the rich were taxed less... and where did our jobs go. Get your details straight.
parosiak 3 years ago
"past 8 years companies offered incentives to ship jobs overseas & rich were taxed less... and where did our jobs go. Get your details straight."
Some straight details:
High company taxation has indeed forced companies to outsource jobs. Obama's plan to raise corp taxes will bring more of the same. So few ppl realize that PEOPLE pay every dime of corp taxes, for instance in lost jobs.
Also, the tax burden on the rich is higher now than ever. Top 50% of earners pay 97% of income taxes...
sailcats77 3 years ago
Well... at least 'debating' with you is fun since you're not just "HE'S A MUSLIM". OK... it'd be nice to just say "it's the taxes" that caused companies to close or ship overseas. But, common, you don't sound ignorant so you know... it's never one thing. Couldn't have been greed of executives or mis-management (or, sometimes, greed of Union bosses). Nope, just taxes. Wow... how could I have been so foolish. Saw you had another response so I'll continue there... running out of room here.
parosiak 3 years ago
...parosiak, more on taxes...
When the Bush tax cuts were implemented, it did indeed lower the RATE of taxation on the rich. But that resulted in more economic activity, which in turn resulted in the rich having MORE of the tax burden than lower/mid income people.
Don't fall into the Obama confusion-trap where you equate a RATE with overall cost.
When Obama raises business taxes, those businesses will quite simply lay ppl off. That will be how businesses save costs in order to pay the taxes
sailcats77 3 years ago
To continue, I'm not falling into any trap. Honestly, I'm as cautious about Obama as I am about McCain. BUT, I've worked for companies where management said "I KNOW WHAT TO DO" and I found... people who say that typically DON'T and within time, the company closed. Not because of taxes, because of poor management. McCain's constant assertion that he 'knows' and yet for 26 years he hasn't SHARED... that I find a bit troubling. As for Obama... maybe it's a leap. (More coming)
parosiak 3 years ago
Your take on companies is telling actually. You sound as if working for a company who had bad leadership, was in some way a betrayal of you or other employees.
I'll point out that the SOLE purpose of most companies is to make as much $ as possible for its shareholders, whether publicly or privately owned.
The "greed" is what provides that motivation. I don't think it's greed, I call it drive to achieve.
jobs that are created, aren't for social gain, they're there to help the company achieve.
sailcats77 3 years ago
Unfortunately I'm running out of time but your last line is telling also. FYI... did see mismanagement (in a few companies), AM aware of shareholders and the rules. Have my own business.
If "jobs that are created, aren't for social gain, they're there to help the company achieve."... kinda reads like we're all just cogs in the Capitalist machine. I prefer the example of companies like Google. Employees are valued, ideas are shared and sought, good for one is good for all. Ciao.
parosiak 3 years ago
"kinda reads like we're all just cogs in the Capitalist machine"
Oh I agree completely that employees should be valued, ideas shared, etc. I'm not at all saying employees shouldn't be. But ask Google founders... does Google exist to give people jobs, or to make money?
So when corp tax laws punish companies for creating jobs in the US, what's the logical thing for them to do? Outsource.
It's the GOVT that's the problem, not capitalism. As a business owner you know this.
sailcats77 3 years ago
I really have to go (need to go jogging). This is interesting but you're missing my point. Yes, we're out to make money BUT when that's the ONLY reason then someone is wrong. Here's my take... Obama is like a President of Google (who, btw, supports him)... share your ideas, lets work together so we ALL win. McCain is like all those executives who ran our companies into the ground. Old ideas and sure only HIS opinion matters. It's how I see it and I'm for the 'new ideas'.
parosiak 3 years ago
parosiak, Obama does NOT want to make everyone win. He's said as much... he wants to take from some and give it to others. That's vote buying, using achievers' money.
McCain wants to cut taxes for all, and reduce govt spending. Obama wants to raise govt spending. McCain knows that we're out of control already. We already can't meet the future obligations of our social spending.
Again, corp execs sure helped run things to gnd, but govt was the root cause.
There's nothing new about Obama.
sailcats77 3 years ago
McCain's tax cuts are smaller for the middle class than Obama's. Obama's plan is just a return to Reagan-era levels.
Also, under Palin, Alaska took in more federal $ than it paid into the budget. Same with Oklahoma and many other "red" states. That means that I (a NY'er) had my wealth redistributed to those people. Should we call it socialism? Or welfare? Or does it not count, since we're taking away from places that aren't "real America?"
particle409 3 years ago
Sounds like you believe in what is fair, and when it comes down to it, the only thing that is "fair" is to have a set of rules that everyone is subject to. No one treated better or worse than anyone else. Sounds like a wonderful system to me, unfortunately, the USA is the closest thing we have, and it's a long shot from it.
tsmbuck 3 years ago
...the latest example of govt interference causing market havoc is the finance market. Decades ago, the govt decided it would be a great idea to create the GSE's and make a requirement for them to finance loans to low to moderate income people. Their min % increased over yrs til in 2007, 56% of all loans they backed had to be to low-mod income ppl.
This undercut the free market driver of self-responsibility, which was the root cause of today's crisis.
You blame companies? I give you govt.
sailcats77 3 years ago
"You blame companies? I give you govt."... I blame both.
parosiak 3 years ago
"... I blame both. "
Hey alright! Now we're talking. So do I, I just lay the impetus at govt's feet.
To me, it's a given that govt is corrupt. What's the fix? There's only one.
Reduce govt.
Only one candidate is going to do that.
sailcats77 3 years ago
And the only hope now is to kick the republicans in the a@@ for trying to strike middle ground.
tsmbuck 3 years ago
I can't wait till this is over and McCain continues to backpeddle over the mess he made feeding the ignorant masses. He said, himself, on Larry King that Obama is no Socialist. If you want to get freaky, you can... but you're wrong. You're NOT wrong though that parties change. The OLD Democratic party was against Civil Rights. The OLD "GOP" was proud. Look at how times have changed.
parosiak 3 years ago
McCain is too honorable to call Obama "socialist" but it's beyond doubt and beyond logic to think Obama's "spread the wealth" ideas are anything new, or anything but a clear march to socialism.
It breeds dependence on govt, which undercuts every adult's drive for self-reliance.
It takes more from achievers, thus discouraging achievement.
Why not just admit that if you want everyone to truly be all they can be, achievement must be encouraged, not punished.
Why is that so hard to admit?
sailcats77 3 years ago
What do you call Social Security? Public Schools? Public Works? Highways? Airports? Man... we're socialist and we didn't even know it!!!
parosiak 3 years ago
No one is credibly saying that things like schools, roads, etc, even to extent social security, should go away. That's not at all in the realm of possibility right now.
What we're saying is we're getting far too socialized. Federal spending is about 1/3 of our whole GDP. About 60% of that is all social spending.
That's FAR too much and continues to grow out of control. Obama will accelerate that growth, in turn punishing the achievement that makes the spending possible.
sailcats77 3 years ago
I see what you're afraid of, but I disagree. The only thing that stops one from attempting to achieve is ones self. Again, I DON'T want Socialism but I'm not afraid we're going there either. I do hope, if Obama wins come Tuesday, you give his ideas a chance. If he lied we'll all vote him out (gotta love that we can impeach). But what if he isn't and what if we really CAN change for the positive?
parosiak 3 years ago
"I DON'T want Socialism but I'm not afraid we're going there either"
Glad you agree with not wanting it. I wouldn't say I'm "afraid" of anything, given I know the real power in this country is in the Peoples' hands. But Obama and a dem controlled congress could play havoc on our republic and the Peoples' freedoms.
Many jobs will be lost under Obama. We'll be "tested" as Biden warned. People will die. Our economy will decline. Our freedoms will likely be lost.
sailcats77 3 years ago
Ahh... EVERYONE says the new 'team' will be tested. REGARDLESS. I'm with the guy who can control his anger and seek other's opinions. Not the guy who needs to "WIN" something to make up for the foolish mistakes in Vietnam. And, btw, I'm an Army Brat (part of the reason we had no money) and my Dad did 3 tours.
Gotta go.
parosiak 3 years ago
"EVERYONE says the new 'team' will be tested. REGARDLESS."
Sorry, you just can't convince me that terrorists don't favor Obama over McCain. They know they'll have much more success with Obama.
If I'm a terrorist org, and I hate the US, and I have a choice between John McCain, and Barack Obama, I'm going to LOVE Obama b/c I know he'll just roll over. He's weak. You said it yourself, he'll tend to compromise with evil instead of fighting it relentlessly.
Evil must be named & fought.
sailcats77 3 years ago
"Sorry, you just can't convince me that terrorists don't favor Obama over McCain. They know they'll have much more success with Obama." Well, respectfully, I disagree. Having lived overseas (where we had bomb threats to the base we lived on once a month) I wasn't surprised at 9/11. Saddened, yes, but not surprised. I do feel McCain would have responded better in '00 had he been President, but he's not the man today he was then. It's not the same world. We need new directions from our leaders.
parosiak 3 years ago
"Well, respectfully, I disagree."
Fair enough, but don't just consider my word. Hamas has specifically spoken out in favor of Obama. When terrorists endorse you, something's up. Seems to be a trend, given his relationship with Ayers, and makes sense, since any US hating group is going to be more attracted to a leader who wants to change it so much.
There's simply no doubt that Obama will appease instead of confront evil.
Look at Georgia. He called for restraint from the *invaded* country.
sailcats77 3 years ago
Check out the CNN special with 5 former Secretaries of State hosted by Christiane Amanpour (some support McCain, other's Obama)... you'll have to Google it for the transcript. They talk about many things, including Georgia (and restraint) there. Great special. Regarding Hamas for Obama, there's also Al Qaeda for McCain. Both ridiculous. As to Ayers I offer G. Gordon Liddy and Palin's scessionist hubby... and roll my eyes at all. I know to be cautious. Take care.
parosiak 3 years ago
parosiak unfortunately it seems the koolaid is too much to give up ;-) lol
But consider, if obama is elected tomorrow, and then when our economy continues to tank due to his higher taxation, govt power grows due to his big govt, we collectively give up our rights for his welfare, & to appease other countries' wishes for us, etc...
Then will you consider if you could've been a bit more cautious turning over the world's most powerful position to someone like obama?
sailcats77 3 years ago
sailcats77, I'd say the same! ;-)
I am comfortable with my position.
McCain, with a better VP choice, might have seemed like an okay 'if my guy didn't win', but not with Palin. Not at all.
OH... and I am cautious. Very much so. Apparently you are too... we just disagree! Another nice part of living here.
Have fun voting tomorrow!
parosiak 3 years ago
Does anyone actually believe, or even recall a politician keeping their promise not to raise taxes? What it really comes down to is do you want your tax increase to go towards helping your dying grandmother who NEEDS social, or to help pay for the mahogany deck on ted turner's new yacht?
The choice is clear: Ted Turner needs a new mahogany deck people, and that's a 160ft yacht, so bend over, cuz McCains gonna take it!
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teton99 3 years ago
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As a former Clinton supporter I am proud to say I now support McCain/Palin. The reason is primarily because the Dem Party has changed so much since the start of the primary season in 07 they no longer represent my ideas/ideals as a US citizen. Admittedly, the Rep Party does not represent all of them either but, I can honestly say Senator McCain or Sarah Palin do not scare me and Obama does. So, for now and the foreseeable future, I will be re-registering as an Independent and voting Rep.
moblou 3 years ago
In any plutocracy there is a constant need to keep the drones convinced their lives are better thanks to those in charge. To those of you who have lost your jobs in the past few years; to those of you who have lost their homes this year; to those of you who have returned from a war where you lost part of your soul; and to those of you who have lost husbands, wives, daughters, sons mothers and fathers in Iraq:
YOU'RE BETTER OFF!!!
Say "Thank you George, John, Dick and Sarah."
Lanthia 3 years ago
LET's SAY THANK YOU TO BARNEY FRANK, CHRIS DODD, GEORGE SORROS & all the other BLEEDING HEART LIBERALS THAT WON'T TAKE RESPONSIBILTY FOR THEIR ACTIONS! FANNIE MAE & FREDDIE MAC: headed-up by 2 people NOW on the OBAMA CAMPAIGN! BARNEY FRANK SAID NO to CONTROLS ON THOSE Grps NOT MORE THAN 3 MONTHS AGO! Corp. greed from DEMOCRAT CEO's ARE THE ONES YOU NEED TO LOOK AT! Allen Mullalay at FORD for instance! McNearney at BOEING! 2 YRS of CONGRESSIONAL CONTROL BY DEMOCRATS: lower ratings than BUSH!!
KCJ57 3 years ago
This isn't the worst of it, guys. Obama is MORE liberal the Bill Clinton. Furthermore, he'll have a senate majority backing him we haven't seen since- does this name bring back any nightmares- Lyndon Johnson. Great society? My a**! America, WAKE UP and regain control for the liberals completely wipe away what's left of our greatness. Bring back REAGAN style conservatism!
kb5zht 3 years ago 6
The companies just pass it on to us. And if Obama decides to raise our taxes because of all the programs he wants to start and he needs more money to do that we gt taxed twice. Not fun folks. You will pay both. Think about ti!!
djar63 3 years ago 3
All you people that want to see Obama raise taxes on companies and people over 250k per year are voting a tax on yourself. He is going to resind the bush tax cuts and raise taxes on business. What happens when you do that is the companies just raise there prices on goods and services to make up for there tax increase. We end up paying for that every time we buy something. It' a tax on us through proxy.
djar63 3 years ago 3
If people are willing to sacrifice their lives and fight for this country and protect the assets of the privileged, (and yes if you make over 250Gs you are privileged) the privileged should be willing to pay a little extra to help their fellow countrymen who are losing houses and jobs.
"Ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country."
HupCapStudios 3 years ago
It's not the so-called "privileged" people's responsibility to bail out everyone else. Taxing the wealthy to give it to the less wealthy is called re-distribution of wealth which is just a sugar-coated way of saying COMMUNISM. Besides if everyone is taxed the same percentage then someone making 250k is still giving more money than someone making 100k. People making more money work for it just like everyone else. It's not fair to say they have to pay more just because they can.
chevygurl223 3 years ago 2
Obama reduces taxes on anyone making under
250k a year including small business
also if any small business hires in USA and not over seas get a tax cut if they have health care another cut
if they create a job in the company another cut. Bush cuts in place now trickle down to us nope big oil uped there prices at pumps & in our homes mcains cuts gives me 300. obamas over a thousand mcCain will make me pay 12 thousand for health care by making me loose health care through my Job by taxing it
stme2008 3 years ago
Stme2008: does that say Styme? Meaning you don't know anything about the economy or how business is run? Yeah, You've drunk the KOOL-AID,Kid! $ make companies & individuals invest in themselves or others. Where in-turn that company hires new people: more profitable in production. When taxes applied on $250K, money goes away & so do the jobs!
GAS SPECULATORS SCREWED US ON PRICES. ALSO:
You DIDN'T LISTEN IN CLASS! DEMOCRATS SPEND/TAX want BIG GOVERNMENT. REPUBLICANS WANT SMALL GOV. LESS TAXES!
KCJ57 3 years ago
Obama's nothing but a Marxist tax and spend liberal that will wreck this country. We will go back to the Carter era policies of high taxes, high inflation, and high unemployment. Libs complain about a "Bush 3rd term", but Obama will be a Carter 2nd term.
allbymyself27 3 years ago 4
True to his Marxist theology, Obama has another TAX that he has already introduced in the Sentate (S 2433): GLOBAL TAX to REDISTRIBUTE AMERICAN WEALTH ON A GLOBAL LEVEL! You can read (or listen) to a 20 part series of articles by Investors Business Daily called THE AUDACITY OF SOCIALISM.
100Mainstreet 3 years ago 3
Oxymoron here, if Obama is the most liberal senator yet one of the issues brought up is he is constantly not voting just stating he is here. How would you know he is the most liberal if he does not vote for a majority of issues?
bopotus 3 years ago
The ones he has voted on tell quite a tale!
groberts0429 3 years ago
WHY ARE MOST DEMOCRATS SO IGNORANT?
wadebyrum 3 years ago 3
They are fed by maintstream media in many cases, however people I speak with are not informed about the issues or their candidates. They don't seem to be interested in digging for facts, just hating President Bush.
dyamarick 3 years ago 2
Sorry for coming across so dimly, but if we didn't you republicans would never understand us.
Usingabrain 3 years ago
Don't speak so fast. First..you've got to get up off of your brain, Usingabrain. But I would first use some brand flakes to clear out all the s_ _ t and then maybe you won't have a BRAIN FART! Obvious you did go to school, but probably were talking to that cute gal in row 2 in HISTORY CLASS, when you SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT MAKES THE WORLD GO ROUND! And you wonder why we are upset that people like you will be running the Sub-state of N. America when the Socialists take over?
KCJ57 3 years ago
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when the rich get poorer the poor will starve! Remember that you fucking welfare asses when you pull the switch for Obama it will be like pulling your own switch to death. These same rich people Obama wants to steal from pays your fucking bills
danzor123 3 years ago
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you mean theres people out there actually dumb enough to vote republican again after what Bush did? I knew rednecks were idiots but even I didn't think they were THAT dumb!
leeaf83 3 years ago
McCain and Palin are not Bush. You can't hold them accountable for decisions Bush has made. Don't think party, think who will do a better job and if you think Mr. Obama is the man that can get us out of this mess you are the only idiot I see.
RTB0889 3 years ago 2
For that matter, you can't really blame Bush. The President doesn't write the laws. Congress does. He only signs them. All the financial problems started under the Democrat's watch. Prior to 2006, we had a booming economy. I'm just wondering if raising the minimum wage is starting to have an effect on small businesses. It would explain why so many have lost their jobs lately.
Stryder46 3 years ago 3
Stryder, I have thought the same thing, too. You know raising the minimum wage has had to have an affect on small businesses. That's why the federal government has no business in telling businesses and corporations how to operate.
allbymyself27 3 years ago
So how long you been a bigot?Besides with Acorn no worries right.Vote early vote often.Yes Barack is the one.The one that was with Ayers even knowing he was a terrorist.20 years with Wright.The only senator I know that has to take a guided tour to find out where the senate is.
well99 3 years ago 2
Mc Cain has voted against his party, and Bush! obama on the other hand, has never voted against his party. When running for Senate, he promised to lower taxes, when elected only voted to raise them. I am an independent and would much rather have Mc Cain in office who does go against his party, than obama who has done nothing but hang with questionable people who hate our country. This is not a party/race issue! This is a voting for the person who has proven he is for our country! Wake up!
ladamsfrog 3 years ago 3
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Blah, blah, blah... Obama!!! Talk, talk, talk,... You wouldn't be in this place if you and the DNC hadn't stolen the nomination from Hillary. Damn America, where are our heads? Nobama, no way and no how. McCain/Palin 08 to save "US"!!!
moblou 3 years ago
It seems that no matter how hard we try we just can't to get these "tax the rich" folks to understand how the real world works. Tax the rich that buy yachts and they will stop buying yachts which will put the people that build yachts OUT OF WORK. Get it?
There is excuse for stupidity they're born that way. There is no excuse for ignorance in the era of the internet.
NMGomes 3 years ago 3
Higher taxes ftw.
Lumpenproletarian 3 years ago
clearly none of you a) understand how the economy and taxes work and b) have looked into either candidates tax policies at all.
cmon people. dissapointing...
fordhambmx 3 years ago
90% of economists say the gas tax would do nothing. You'd get $40 if you were lucky.
Even Fox News has woken up to the FACT that Obama's plan increases taxes on those making more than $250,000/yr. Everyone else gets a cut.
Who's gonna pay for the war? Who's gonna pay for the bailout that turns America fully socialist? It's the policies of McCain's party that put us where we are. They let the foxes guard the hen house. Go team.
SnarkTheMagicDragon 3 years ago
Hey dip shit the gas tax makes a difference to me that would be 25 cents less a gallon. Go inflate your head
luilun 3 years ago 2
So, you would have gotten $40 over a three month period and then the prices would go up again. Boy, that's some deal!
SnarkTheMagicDragon 3 years ago
The prices will go up again cause your stupid Senator refuse's Off shore drilling. If Obama wins don't cry when your paying $8 a gallon for gas and his best answer is to inflate your tires.
luilun 3 years ago 2
Drilling offshore would take about seven years to ramp up before we saw a drop of oil. It's not Obama that says inflate your tires - it's the government of George Bush that says to do that. Are you really so brain dead that you think that would be Obama's WHOLE energy plan? Guess there must be a lot of people that believe it since the lie continues to get told.
SnarkTheMagicDragon 3 years ago
Snark lay off the sauce.The people that actually DO THE drilling said they could have oil out of the ocean floor in 2 -3 years.
Wacoman55 3 years ago 3
Oh. Sorry! I forgot that Iraq was supposed to pay for itself, trickle down economics work and bush promised not to cum in my mouth.
Have ANY of you stopped to think about how bush has brought socialism to the US Government - pretty damn funny.
My family of four and I would live pretty well with $250,000. If you don't want taxes raised then walk to work and advocate isolationism - otherwise STFU.
The only taxes you like are the ones that benefit YOU or your company
SnarkTheMagicDragon 3 years ago
I signed up for the news letters from Obama, Communists party and Frankin, but I still can't find the liberal talking points. Where do you get them? What site do you get the talking points from?
biffmctavish 3 years ago
Which also includes small business owners whose profits will also fall under that $250K umbrella. Small businesses are the largest employer base in our country. Raising taxes in any way, shape, or form hurts our economy.
Stryder46 3 years ago 4
very good point! Obama is disasterist for this Country. Vote McCain/Palin!
RTB0889 3 years ago
its a tax for the rich
but the rich have a higher voice them the masses
xXAidenxGoesxrawRxX 3 years ago
Nice to see slander in politics is alive and well. I'd take higher taxes over a war nut and a woman who hates the very government she is a part of.
dmneoblade 3 years ago
Wow! You slandered someone while decrying slander! That twist of logic was AWESOME!! I would give it an 8.9. (You seemed to wobble a bit on the landing)
eyeceedredpeople 3 years ago
Thanks. I'm here all week. ;p
dmneoblade 3 years ago
Take your blinders off and get the facts about Obama from independent sources not some left leaning posting
Wacoman55 3 years ago
Right on pah nice to see someone with eyes open to the truth. Did u know obama sites Saul Alinsky as one of his mentors? Alinksy dedicated his book Rules for Radicles to lucifer. Google the book, u can read the dedication. Not surprising when u see obama voted NO 3 times on Born Alive Infant Act. obama is The King of Abortion. "I don't want my daughters punished with a baby". He has the nerve to call himself a Christian when his actions show he is anything but a Christian. ANY LIE for a vote.
ECwashr 3 years ago 5
Obama wants a socialized country. Even mule teeth Michele said that those with a big pie need to share it with those with less or no pies. I worked HARD for my pie and I should not have to give it to those who sit on their butts, have loads of babies and wait for a check in the box every month. He will make sure that everyone has about the same income and pies! Funny in the last 4 years he has only given 1% of his 1.2 million dollar income to charity. So much for sharing his pie!
pah0123 3 years ago 8
Obama is a pimp. Only a moron would vote for this fool!
rafleischman 3 years ago 6
BO claims that he will LOWER taxes.
BS!
He plays shell games with taxes. In the end, everyone will pay more.
Fun4Sly 3 years ago 11
If BO eliminates Bush Tax cuts, immediately people with incomes down to $30K will pay $3500 more in taxes. Then he promises to give us $1000. Net effect= our taxes are up by $2500, not incuding the large capital gains tax hike he preposes. Also, if he attacks big oil, those taxes will just be passed on to us in the form of higher prices at the pump.
This man is too inexperienced and it is sad people are voting for him because of his color not his credentials!
ncsterritt 3 years ago 11
That is a fact Fun4sly only most people are too stupid to get the facts before runnimg their mouths
Wacoman55 3 years ago