@lormendi "Any idiot can use google images to see countless pictures of aluminum glowing orange when heated. Even below 1000 degrees."
"Idiot" is the right word, because that's what looking at images without knowing what they represent is being exactly that.
Try clicking on the things and following them to the source. If you can find any source that shows aluminum glowing ANYTHING below 1,000C, please inform us.
Clarification on the whole "should have tested in vacuum thing" from Jones himself:
"We used air in the studies to match conditions used by Tillotson et al., so we could compare with their results for known nanothermite -- see Fig. 29 in our paper."
Tillotson et al under Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories are the original developers of nano-thermite. In addition to being verification for chip above being nano-thermite, it also verifies it being, direct quote, "high explosives".
@shitty121981 yes, i'm sure you do just want to forget the whole thing. isn't that what you'll eventually do about 9/11 truth? or...you will never stop with this.....or......you will succeed. until then, enjoy YOUR willful ignorance
Pity they didn't do the experiment properly in an inert atmosphere (Nitrogen or Argon). Thermite would burn anyways as it has its own source of oxygen. All he is showing here is that paint flakes soaked in MEK, burn.
@kitbots Paint flakes, soaked in MEK or not, do not burn. That is the whole point of the video above: it compares how the sample and paint behave under a torch. Red chips flare up, paint just smolders away.
You wouldent really need thermite to bring it down, all youd need is shape charges focusing all explosive energy in a fine line cutting through virtually anything.
Yes, the WTC was brought down by Thermit.. ah wait, no Thermat... ah wait, no Nano-Thermit... ah wait, no it was explosives with a Thermat ignitor..... ah wait, no it was somehow involved but noone knows how or why, but yes, we found this red chips wich components are already in the NIST report....
Maybe Jones should ask his partner Fetzer who believes it was brought down by a high-energy-beam from a military satelite :)
@smirnoff225 Fucking brilliant. Great post, you wiped the floor with these morons and their petty "theories".
I just love how their heroes keep bringing out different DVD's (£30 please, NOW, or you cant watch, but remember to rip a copy for your buddies, cos we are super cool like that, but dont forget to tell your friends to donate), with NEW versions of "the truth".
I always thought that the truth was something that couldnt change? Apparently not according to these twats
@w0bbl3r Nearly all of the material produced by the truth movement is available for FREE. All truth movement organization are non-profit, and keep nothing for personal gain. By your logic the official story should be dismissed because 9/11 Commission Report sells for 30$ on Amazon.
As for dismissing genuine science, that is just petty, nevermind delusional.
@smirnoff225 The only thing proposed is Harris paper was nano-thermate, it does not speculate how it was used exactly. The issue is never even glanced over in the NIST reports. Even though Jones earlier forced them to admit to footage of molten metal leaking from the towers, his later studies were simply dismissed.
And that is what you have to do to defend the official story: dismiss the evidence and cover it up with petty ridicule of those who bring it up.
@lormendi "And you know this how? Let me guess. A youtube video told you."
Actually I've read a scientific article on this, but you should be able to find verification in any textbook concerned with black-body radiation.
I do know you got your rumour from a YouTube video though, more precisely RKOwens, who in turn got his information from a truther side, which in turn completely fabricated it.
"Don't look for a speck in your neighbour's eye..."
@lormendi "And you know this how? Let me guess. A youtube video told you."
A scientific research on luminescence paper told me.
But if your source is RKOwens... Which I'm guessing it is... You should probably know he got his graph there from - surprise - a truther site. Judy Wood specifically.
"A Steven Jones video I bet Hey kid."
Research. Jones conducted research on this subject.
"Look at all the pictures of molten aluminum glowing orange. "
@SexyMelon And you know this how? Let me guess. A youtube video told you.
A Steven Jones video I bet Hey kid. Google "molten aluminum." Look at all the pictures of molten aluminum glowing orange. Blow your mind. Then make up some shit about how google is part of the conspiracy.
My favorite part of your post? "Don't repeat rumours like this without research."
@lormendi "Google "molten aluminum." Look at all the pictures of molten aluminum glowing orange. Blow your mind."
This is also how RKOwens did his "research", by typing it into Google. The first and fourth pictures in that Google search come from Judy Wood. She's the aforementioned truther, and both are outright fabrications on her part, as detailed by Brian Vasquez.
These are your "sources", kid.
Great "research". Quite on the level with other "debunkers".
@lcspies Pardon, in MY own words. Don't repeat rumors like this without research indeed.
YouTube hid a few of my responses - how nice - where I address this nonsense in a bit more detail, and specifically the "type something into Google Images and look at whatever comes up" kind of research.
@smitty121981 and oh boy has it gotten you far. nice work guys, we'll be rangling in the white men in the black suits any day now, any...day...now. what year is it again? when was this crime committed?! im having trouble remembering its all fading from my memory....
A better test would have been to lite it in a vacumn.if it lites,then it would be thermite.paunt would not. Nano-thermite has the oxygen needed to burn,paint does not.
No. The only proof of a thermitic reaction is a thermitic reaction, evidenced for example by the presence of molten iron and aluminum oxide afterwards. Tillotson didn't conduct his test in an inert atmosphere, and neither did Jones. Do not parrot debunker websites without insight.
Any idiot can use google images to see countless pictures of aluminum glowing orange when heated. Even below 1000 degrees.
lormendi 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@lormendi "Any idiot can use google images to see countless pictures of aluminum glowing orange when heated. Even below 1000 degrees."
"Idiot" is the right word, because that's what looking at images without knowing what they represent is being exactly that.
Try clicking on the things and following them to the source. If you can find any source that shows aluminum glowing ANYTHING below 1,000C, please inform us.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
Clarification on the whole "should have tested in vacuum thing" from Jones himself:
"We used air in the studies to match conditions used by Tillotson et al., so we could compare with their results for known nanothermite -- see Fig. 29 in our paper."
Tillotson et al under Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories are the original developers of nano-thermite. In addition to being verification for chip above being nano-thermite, it also verifies it being, direct quote, "high explosives".
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@shitty121981 yes, i'm sure you do just want to forget the whole thing. isn't that what you'll eventually do about 9/11 truth? or...you will never stop with this.....or......you will succeed. until then, enjoy YOUR willful ignorance
admiralct 1 year ago
Pity they didn't do the experiment properly in an inert atmosphere (Nitrogen or Argon). Thermite would burn anyways as it has its own source of oxygen. All he is showing here is that paint flakes soaked in MEK, burn.
kitbots 2 years ago
@kitbots Paint flakes, soaked in MEK or not, do not burn. That is the whole point of the video above: it compares how the sample and paint behave under a torch. Red chips flare up, paint just smolders away.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
You wouldent really need thermite to bring it down, all youd need is shape charges focusing all explosive energy in a fine line cutting through virtually anything.
Furaxxxxx 2 years ago
@Furaxxxxx
you are right but RDX has thermite properties to it.
ctrackmonger 1 year ago
Yes, the WTC was brought down by Thermit.. ah wait, no Thermat... ah wait, no Nano-Thermit... ah wait, no it was explosives with a Thermat ignitor..... ah wait, no it was somehow involved but noone knows how or why, but yes, we found this red chips wich components are already in the NIST report....
Maybe Jones should ask his partner Fetzer who believes it was brought down by a high-energy-beam from a military satelite :)
smirnoff225 2 years ago
@smirnoff225 Fucking brilliant. Great post, you wiped the floor with these morons and their petty "theories".
I just love how their heroes keep bringing out different DVD's (£30 please, NOW, or you cant watch, but remember to rip a copy for your buddies, cos we are super cool like that, but dont forget to tell your friends to donate), with NEW versions of "the truth".
I always thought that the truth was something that couldnt change? Apparently not according to these twats
w0bbl3r 1 year ago
@w0bbl3r Nearly all of the material produced by the truth movement is available for FREE. All truth movement organization are non-profit, and keep nothing for personal gain. By your logic the official story should be dismissed because 9/11 Commission Report sells for 30$ on Amazon.
As for dismissing genuine science, that is just petty, nevermind delusional.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@smirnoff225 The only thing proposed is Harris paper was nano-thermate, it does not speculate how it was used exactly. The issue is never even glanced over in the NIST reports. Even though Jones earlier forced them to admit to footage of molten metal leaking from the towers, his later studies were simply dismissed.
And that is what you have to do to defend the official story: dismiss the evidence and cover it up with petty ridicule of those who bring it up.
It's anti-skepticism. It's delusion.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@SexyMelon Molten metal was aluminum.
lormendi 1 year ago
@lormendi Aluminum does not glow orange even at 1,200C, well past the highest possible temperature of any office fire.
Don't repeat rumours like this without research.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@SexyMelon And you know this how? Let me guess. A youtube video told you.
lormendi 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@lormendi "And you know this how? Let me guess. A youtube video told you."
Actually I've read a scientific article on this, but you should be able to find verification in any textbook concerned with black-body radiation.
I do know you got your rumour from a YouTube video though, more precisely RKOwens, who in turn got his information from a truther side, which in turn completely fabricated it.
"Don't look for a speck in your neighbour's eye..."
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@lormendi "And you know this how? Let me guess. A youtube video told you."
A scientific research on luminescence paper told me.
But if your source is RKOwens... Which I'm guessing it is... You should probably know he got his graph there from - surprise - a truther site. Judy Wood specifically.
"A Steven Jones video I bet Hey kid."
Research. Jones conducted research on this subject.
"Look at all the pictures of molten aluminum glowing orange. "
Violate basic black-body physics.
Fail.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@SexyMelon And you know this how? Let me guess. A youtube video told you.
A Steven Jones video I bet Hey kid. Google "molten aluminum." Look at all the pictures of molten aluminum glowing orange. Blow your mind. Then make up some shit about how google is part of the conspiracy.
My favorite part of your post? "Don't repeat rumours like this without research."
LMFAO!!!! Self-owned.
lormendi 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@lormendi "Google "molten aluminum." Look at all the pictures of molten aluminum glowing orange. Blow your mind."
This is also how RKOwens did his "research", by typing it into Google. The first and fourth pictures in that Google search come from Judy Wood. She's the aforementioned truther, and both are outright fabrications on her part, as detailed by Brian Vasquez.
These are your "sources", kid.
Great "research". Quite on the level with other "debunkers".
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@SexyMelon Aluminum is white hot at 1200C, orange to light orange at 930C to 980C...
Remember..."Don't repeat rumors like this without research."
lcspies 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@lcspies "Aluminum is white hot at 1200C, orange to light orange at 930C to 980C..."
Heck no. Not even an ideal black-body would radiate like this.
This is aluminum at 900C: /watch?v=30OVAvg1aGQ
STEEL at 1,300C will be orange, and fainty-red at 1,000C. White-hot is upwards of 1,800C. Aluminum has roughly the same luminescence.
In your own words: "Don't repeat rumors like this without research."
SexyMelon 1 year ago
@lcspies Pardon, in MY own words. Don't repeat rumors like this without research indeed.
YouTube hid a few of my responses - how nice - where I address this nonsense in a bit more detail, and specifically the "type something into Google Images and look at whatever comes up" kind of research.
SexyMelon 1 year ago
Thermite vs paint on ignition...
Termite flashes more even small quantities.
Paint no flash mainly flame or only smoke with small quantity.
zeezrom 2 years ago 6
Where are the iron rich microspheres?
raunchbear 2 years ago
They found several of these iron rich microspheres after igniting the chips. I suggest you look at figures 20, 21, 23, 25, and 26 in the paper.
smitty121981 2 years ago 2
@smitty121981 you fuckin dork
admiralct 1 year ago
@admiralct
why, because I've actually done my research?
smitty121981 1 year ago
@smitty121981 and oh boy has it gotten you far. nice work guys, we'll be rangling in the white men in the black suits any day now, any...day...now. what year is it again? when was this crime committed?! im having trouble remembering its all fading from my memory....
admiralct 1 year ago
@admiralct
yes, I'm sure you do just want to forget the whole thing. Enjoy your willful ignorance.
smitty121981 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@smitty121981 yes, I'm sure you do just want to forget the whole thing. Enjoy your willful ignorance.
admiralct 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@smitty121981 yes, I'm sure you do just want to forget the whole thing. Enjoy your willful ignorance.
admiralct 1 year ago
A better test would have been to lite it in a vacumn.if it lites,then it would be thermite.paunt would not. Nano-thermite has the oxygen needed to burn,paint does not.
blueshadow1996 2 years ago
No. The only proof of a thermitic reaction is a thermitic reaction, evidenced for example by the presence of molten iron and aluminum oxide afterwards. Tillotson didn't conduct his test in an inert atmosphere, and neither did Jones. Do not parrot debunker websites without insight.
loccysmif 2 years ago 8
This is very important research, and good to capture on video.
I just wish they used something better than a cell phone camera to try to document it with.
IndivisiblePrinciple 2 years ago 3
Kaoline!!!!!! Arch, help me!!!!!!
nehorlavazapalka 2 years ago
nano thermite story is bull shit.
subztree 2 years ago
nanothermite you fag
nehorlavazapalka 2 years ago
nano thermite is two words fag
greywolf424 2 years ago
no, nano is dwarf in latin, I belive
so it's nanothermite, you fag
nehorlavazapalka 2 years ago
Nano is a SI term, it is nano thermite retard
greywolf424 2 years ago
That video wasn't that exciting.
priapus512 2 years ago 3
the chip was about 1mm in size
ScootleRoyale 2 years ago 2
@ScootleRoyale Where'd you get it, and why does your other hand block most of the action?
VCat2006 1 year ago
Even though it lasted only a second, I wonder how hot the reaction was? Great clip. Keep exposing the truth.
AKphill49 2 years ago
good video
peace
kriss
911insidejob81 2 years ago