horns cut way to short see some bleed so bad the following day they cant get up ,the guy doing this is an asshole he knows where to cut but he just wants to show off cutting low ,hope you catch your dick in your fly see you jumping round like a cow in the pen thats just had you cut its horns
way to deep on the cutting start right where the hair meets the horn next time and we use rubber bands to stop the bleeding i make a figure 8 around the base of the horns which puts pressure in the viens that supply blood to the horn and in a couple of days the band breaks. works great that powder shit dont work very well
wow how the fuck do they not know how to do this right? its fucking common sence to not cut that fucking close. "shes just drippin blood out" no fucking shit you dumb asses
2.cattle with horns can cause great danger to people and other cattle around them
3.horns can grow downwards and in-grow
4.the outer shell of the horn can fall off and be 10 times more sore than this method
I do agree with you in one sense but dehorning is the humane thing to do. although the way this farmer dehorned this cow was wrong. where i come from we do this when calf is young and we inject them with a pain killer
@reillybrio dude! Don't you realize it?! These animals could become aggressive at anytime and with those horns, your screwed! You'll have a very little chance of not getting injured. So reconsider. Yes, I know it's painful for the cow or bull but it still has to be done if you're gonna raise cattle.
Cut way too short, you'd be surprised how close to the sinus cavity you get when cutting horns that long. Cauterizing the cut works much better than blood stopper, but not when its cut that short cauterizing can actually injure the brain. And on the other hand I've seen way worse injuries/trauma inflicted when cows in the field gore each other.
You fucking bitch....i sure cant wait till you die and jesus ask you why you harmed his animals and uyou just sit thier like a dumbass saying for money.....Fucking bitch
@xL3THALxNEXiSx the hell do you mean its not cruel, what if you had bone growing out of your head and they cut it off without you wanting them to. thats not cruel?
first of all, 1622miguel, don't be an emotional chick, dehorning is a very practical thing to do, not only for the safety of humans being around them, but in a herd, they can gore each other. This is a very important thing to do. As for this video, the cow's horns should have been removed when it was a calf. Also, they should have just removed the tip, the base was too big, exposing the sinuses. As for the bleeding, that's very normal, the horns are full of arteries.
@v10guy don't start on anyone here! if she wants to be an "emotional chick" then let her be! This is disgusting, they're cut far to short, and the cow is in alot of pain!! and don't you dare tell me it's not, that noise you hear as they cut it. thats a shout for help. ill come and pull your nails out, and see how you like that sort of pain.
this is a great machine for dehorning quick rather than the wire .. please let me know what it is called and where i might get one to buy ..thank you from ireland
@MrDuisigh The tool is called a KeyStone dehorner. Most farm supplie catologs in the US sell them. Try enasco/farmandranch/.com The problem with Keystones is that if you don't go deep enough you can't pull the arterys to stop the bleeding. I like using wire better if you are not looking for a profesanal dehorning. wire is ALOT cheapper and they don't bleed if you put a tight rubber band around the base of there horns. rember to take the band off in a day or so!
OMG =( whats this? men? can u explain??? and if cut your horns too? IN HUMANS!!!!
THIS COW ON 100% SUFFERING AND YOU MAKE SOMETHING LIKE THATH YOU DONT HAVE HEAD TO THINK IN OTHER WAY TO CUT THE HORN? YOU KIRIG RIGHT? THE COW IS BLOODING AND YOU SMILE LIKE A JERK!! HOPE PETA MAKE SOMETHING!!!
@1622miguel the hor ns are like you finger nails cut the too far back and they blled and the horns can grow inway and actualy harm the cow and dehorning paste is better that this but it has to be done
the cow looks like its in pain, but compared to some videos ive seen this is a more in humane way to de horn a cow. nevertheless i still dont agree with it, and its still very painfull.
I can understand why cows need to have their horns trimmed for safety reasons, so they don't gore other cows or the people who work with them, but isn't there a way of either trimming the horns down painlessly, or sedating them so they don't feel anything?
@classifiedinfo there are breeds which do not grow much for horns or no horns as all such as Polled Herefords, the optimal way to Dehorn is as they are calves while you are branding and castrating, we would then cover the area dehorned with tar to minimize infection and aid in healing, they seemed to be fine by the next day. Horns however aid in cooling an animal so in warmer climates they should be left.
your opinion of cutting horns is up the shit, what are you from victoria where your avarage heard is like 20 cows try getting through 3000 weiners properties that are like 500 000 acres, those burning things are shit cut em off they suffer for a day or 2 its done plus dehorning is much quicker
A) This has to be done other wise when the cows fight they will stab each other and it will be ALOT more painfull than this.
B) Cutting the horns off is wrong, they should burn them off at a young age with anethetics and as the horns wouldent of groon propally it wont be painfull.
@tractorboydavid not much of a Farmer I would guess, Cow hide is very thick and they rarely push hard enough to inflict any damage on eachother, they can of course hurt eyes and whatever, now we de horned for our own safety, it should be done as calves and you use a De budder to nip the buds out, I guess the weirdo brits feel just burning for how long is more humane? crazy.
haha it takes less than 1 miniute and the calf feels no pain, also its for in the milking parlor cows with horns would just toatally mangle everything up in there, understand yet?
@tractorboydavid lol bullshit @ feels no pain that is funny, and as for milking cows a good milk cow walks straight up to her spot, ya put on the cups, its done, and off she goes, Native Montanan multi generational farmer/ rancher here, like I said, yer not much of a farmer, people like you make the rest of us look like shit.
@mako7828 haha i dont know what your game is mate but i am not a farmer because im 14? And you anyone educated would know that, you mr are a total knob head, you oboiusly dony know what you are on about, i bet you have never even been to a proper dairy farm
@mako7828 rarely push hard enough to hurt each other? Were did you learn that pearl of wisdom. A cow with horns will use them on another cow, give it time it will happen. And if they don't use them on each other they'll hook you. A cow with horns gets snotty it's common knowledge. More ranchers will agree then disagree. And The way the feedlots discounts for horns. It only makes good sense to knock them off
rancherjongus lol again, you are gonna tell me what? that most people are uneducated mindless repeating baffoons, ya apparently that is well represented in all walks of life, good day.
@mako7828 yeah, you keep telling yourself that. And one day you'll believe it! When your the odd man out that not tell you something? Your wrong. if you don't believe that cattle with horns will not hurt you or other cattle you truly are as you put it uneducated mindless repeating baffoons. the sorry thing about you is you have no guts to do what needs to be done! call yourself a multi generational rancher? well you honestley gave me a good laugh today. Utter Bozo!
@rancherjongus lol I never said they could not be a problem for a rancher but for those of us who know how to actually handle cattle really, its not an issue, they do not hurt eachother, Now I suppose the odd accident could happen however they find themselves some way to get hurt anyhow, for hundreds of years people raised cattle, left horns on, and somehow they survied, again, horns play an intricate part in keeping hte animal cool. . Is there some part about that you have trouble comprehendin?
@mako7828 Oh I know maybe in the fairytale land that you live in cattle sit at the table and drink tea and eat biscuits! No? Maybe in your unstable reality cattle who calve on pasture and have horns do not try to push the horn through your gut! Still not right? huh...,Or prehaps in your looney toon world cattle fall into single file and walk calmly through the gate or take turns eating at the bale feeder! and don't try to gore eachother with horns. I suggest first get some common sense.lol
@rancherjongus so the real problem is you have no Idea how to keep cattle, nor how to raise or how to properly breed good tempered cattle, The real problem is you did not have the IQ to actually question what is going on, someone new (actually old) is presented to you and you go off, dude, get a grip, yer probably one of hte morons who feed cattle grnd up bits of cow N wonder why they get sick.
@mako7828 o.k I'm going to try to dumb this down for u. cows have horns for a reason. Natural selection has gave cows horns so bulls may compete 4 breeding rights. Cows can compete 4 food. And protect there young from predators. (which is how a cow sees us) So really even the laws of nature are in my favor. Now u can be a moron and not except the truth. Or u can except it. But if u can't except laws of Nature and the facts then truthfully I have to wonder about your "ranching back ground"
@rancherjongus sooooooo evidently you missed the "domestic" animal part of modern cattle, like I said before, have fun being a wanna be cowboy. most are anyhow.
@mako7828 I'll tell you what. You make up the diffrence at the feedlot for the discount on horns. And you keep believing what you believe. Were I'll live in reality. With 90% of the ranchers. You keep pretending to be some rancher and not an animal rights guy. posing as a rancher. And I'll make a living in a saddle and you can believe half baked theories. Because obviously you have to be the dumbest person I've ever talked too. My suggestion 2 u is stick 2 what u know. Cause it ain't cows.
If you think the horn is usless and cattle never charge and they never use there horns. Like I said u ain't no cattle man. And if your not a rancher you have no buisness talking about a subject you have no idea about! stick to the concrete and pavement and let real men do the jobs ur not williong to do!
@rancherjongus No I stated they do spar, I also stated that rarely results in injury. I have never said I am against it, I merely offered reason as to why it is not entirely necessary as presented by the OP. Now you are in a froth over someone who may ranch differently, that is as ridiculous as the little dick morons who put down someone for raising Hereford because they raised Angus or Simmintal, you are not one of those too are you?
@mako7828 I responded to you because of the tone that you took with this farmer in the video, that's it. And as far as the hereford comment. horns are a dominat trait as long as your keeping your own replacements it's not going to matter. Don't give a dam about the breed. a cow the weans a 800 ibs calf is a good cow. that's it. I knock the horns off in the fall. calf in the spring. Got no choice. no flies. there over it in three days.
@rancherjongus if you go back and read my initial post to all of this you wold see I said the same thing about de horning cept I stated the next day they were fine. Yes we Raised polled Rolled Herefords. usually horns were nubs if at all, however Later we used Red Angus bull for the small head in birthing. I still preferred straight Hereford do to what I consider a better temperament and a bit more intelligent.
@mako7828 finally! we agree on something but it has nothing to do we this dehorning junk. Red angus are easier to birth. especially if your calving them out on pasture. But there are a higher percentage of them got a mind of there own. You call them less intelligent I call it something else. But it's the same dung just a diffrent heap. But I deal with Charolais here. It's a little tuffer to find a moderate birth w8 but I've found the british breeds have a hard time putting on as many pounds.
@rancherjongus never had much problem putting on weight as we lived in a very lush valley so good swamp grass for them to eat and light graining mixed with corn helped give them good weight. Never dealt with Charolais as it seemed other ranches i worked on we had to pull calves far to often. Anyhow least you didnt come back with "I have black bulls" no shit, guy told me that once.
@rancherjongus I consider cattle intelligent after working with sheep. After that horrible experience I fully expected to go into the field and see our cattle preparing to launch a rocket.
@mako7828 lol. Yeah I haven't heard about a sheps high I.Q. And I'll tell you what. This whole back and forth crap was my fault. I'm man enough to admit it. Never looked at the next page and I got mixed up to many hours in a baler and not enough in a bed! Guess I just expect people to start getting on our backs about this kind of stuff. sorry.
@rancherjongus Dont sweat it there are no emotions visible and its easy to misread, its all good. I dono how big your spread is but I HATE bailing, we put up loose for quit a few years but dad "well I have that bailer and we just have to use it" fuck that, there is always something wrong, someone stole it and to be honest I was pretty happy *evil grin* besides we never had rolled ,so I got stuck bucking bails with my buddies. Anyhow huge kudo's for manning up, not necessary.
@mako7828 well I'm running around 300 head but I put a third straw. strech the hay farther and I don't need as much land. but you can't get straw dropped behind a conventional any more or hardly it's all rotary combines now. So it's out all night while the dews down to make it easier.the year has been a beast (Raining every other day) it's been a long wet summer. ready for it to be over.
@rancherjongus You know now this one is personal, and again, has to do with how big your spread is, but we were very picky about breeding, cost us some money in quantity but it helped with heavier better temperament herds. And I understand about bunny fuckers, I hate em, but I am just up front, yea Im sure branding hurts initially or de horning but try to explain why things have to be done and I think it goes better than trying to deny. The country needs education on agriculture.
@mako7828 temperment on the cows I cull out the killers but the snotty ones I find they just protect there calves well. a lot of people around here lose a lot of calves but my cows seem to do a pretty good job of keeping predators away.They get awful snakey when there calving on grass. When I switch from January to early May calving I noticed cows that wanted rubs b4 were out to get u. And yes it would not do any 1 any harm to learn about agriculture. to far removed from reality nowadays
@rancherjongus I can see that, seems like the angrier any creature is the better they survive, I did some beekeeping and that certainly was true with them as well, they were not so suspect able to disease as better tempered, although harder to work with. Feel for ya haying, Sold everything I had 20 years ago, miss the meat, do not miss the headaches. Good luck, Im trying for cushy work now days. Im good with soft hands now.
@mako7828 there is no doubt they survive but it comes at a price. That's why I knock off the horns right away. I can handle a cow no horns easy enough but you get horns coming at ya and it takes a third nut to stand in there with them and put a tag in the calves ear. But I got a shark cage this year so I should be safer.
@rancherjongus Now you could merely be intelligent and raise a breed Such as a Polled Hereford and solve yourself all these problems you keep running at the mouth about, But that would require actual thought. Or are you to Intent on presenting the "Im a cowboy" bullshit Image? Seriously dude, get a life.
@tractorboydavid fuck u talking about, alright ur suppose to cut the horns, but rlly do u have to go in that deep?? gawd i also believe u do ur job recklessly
its not inhumane they have probably injected them with an anastetic to numb it i did it with my cows its our job too because itd be mor epain if the gouge each others eyes out with teir horns
oh my god poor cow the pain and the suffering is intense hope the fag that did it gets rammed by angry bull
AFGHAN21100 1 month ago
STOP TREATING THE COW LIKE IT'S AN OBJECT THEY ARE LIVING THINGS JUST LIKE USE THE BASTARD WHO CUT THE COWS HORNS IS A B**** AND A NOOB!!!!!!!!!
ayindaemayo 1 month ago
horns cut way to short see some bleed so bad the following day they cant get up ,the guy doing this is an asshole he knows where to cut but he just wants to show off cutting low ,hope you catch your dick in your fly see you jumping round like a cow in the pen thats just had you cut its horns
hunterkiller45 1 month ago
buang maning tawhana ni!!
phomar95 1 month ago
way to deep on the cutting start right where the hair meets the horn next time and we use rubber bands to stop the bleeding i make a figure 8 around the base of the horns which puts pressure in the viens that supply blood to the horn and in a couple of days the band breaks. works great that powder shit dont work very well
ranchcowboy100 1 month ago
The dude cut a little too short than he should. What a noob
esfandiari99 1 month ago
after cutting off the horn, powder needs to be applied and then a real hot metal on the wound to seal it and stop the blood.
cogreza 1 month ago
fucking dumb as it short!
EddieDaOnly1 1 month ago
wow how the fuck do they not know how to do this right? its fucking common sence to not cut that fucking close. "shes just drippin blood out" no fucking shit you dumb asses
axelroach 2 months ago
Damn that had to hurt like a mother fucker
ZepGames 2 months ago
Can't wait until the cow is asleep before doing that?
jaymorpheus11 2 months ago
thats the worlds most cruel thing ever its discusting subscribe to me if you agree
MrMahony99 2 months ago
i am to weak for this, i cant ..
MultiTheused 3 months ago
FUCKERS THEY ARE FUCKING IDIOTS I HATE GUYS WHO KILLING EVERY ANIMAL ;( I SAY DO NOT KILL ANIMALS!
tomas2deivis1 3 months ago
@tomas2deivis1 so your saying Lets not eat!:D
vSaNiiTee 3 months ago
@tomas2deivis1 then we would run out of food that is necessary in our diets.
ParadiseReptiles1 2 months ago
horrible! you cut the horns to short!
Skippy0315 3 months ago
Seems very cruel to me.
breezeman199 3 months ago
they suffer so much and people these days dont even care
jacky9248 3 months ago
gd american farmers are rough and rubbish
pony9999 4 months ago
@pony9999 its not just americans you prick. there are alot more countries that do this alot more and even more violently
ognimoddd 3 months ago
@ognimoddd
yes but you cant do that in the uk, and it makes no sense to do it anyway. America is supposed to be number 1 at everything
pony9999 1 month ago
oh my fucking god, what a cruel cunt.
Squats200 4 months ago
way to short!! cutting that short is wrong i have dehorned cattles before and theses guys did not do it right this video is in accurate and cruel
bulldog32220 5 months ago 3
@bulldog32220 so how do u did, dont u think any way is still painful for animals
MultiTheused 3 months ago
@reilybrio because
1. its illegal to have cattle with horns
2.cattle with horns can cause great danger to people and other cattle around them
3.horns can grow downwards and in-grow
4.the outer shell of the horn can fall off and be 10 times more sore than this method
I do agree with you in one sense but dehorning is the humane thing to do. although the way this farmer dehorned this cow was wrong. where i come from we do this when calf is young and we inject them with a pain killer
nomadd36 5 months ago 2
from what you are you shal remain until u are compleat again!
TheGsteven 6 months ago
Why does this need to be done leave the cows alone if they weren't meant to have them they would be born without them......
reillybrio 6 months ago
@reillybrio dude! Don't you realize it?! These animals could become aggressive at anytime and with those horns, your screwed! You'll have a very little chance of not getting injured. So reconsider. Yes, I know it's painful for the cow or bull but it still has to be done if you're gonna raise cattle.
Pikachu25sci90vt 5 months ago
@Pikachu25sci90vt then dont raise them...
kanohane 5 months ago
@Pikachu25sci90vt That is an invalid reason. Don't try to defend dehorning, if you are going to be that ignorant about it.
Cows are usually very calm animals. There's very little chance of you getting hurt by one, unless you are some stupid fuck who does it all wrong.
Dehorning should NOT be done like they did in this video.
realisticHomeboy 5 months ago
Cut way too short, you'd be surprised how close to the sinus cavity you get when cutting horns that long. Cauterizing the cut works much better than blood stopper, but not when its cut that short cauterizing can actually injure the brain. And on the other hand I've seen way worse injuries/trauma inflicted when cows in the field gore each other.
Boa2250 7 months ago
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tylerpelfrey11 7 months ago
That's cool
ramenboy33 8 months ago
This Is Animal Abuse
Vekhematu 8 months ago
You fucking bitch....i sure cant wait till you die and jesus ask you why you harmed his animals and uyou just sit thier like a dumbass saying for money.....Fucking bitch
darionlharris 8 months ago
@darionlharris I sure wish I could watch you explain to Jesus how his message of love and compassion to all does not apply in this situation
enordsv 8 months ago
@darionlharris UMADBRO?
aznyoungbo 6 months ago
Im coming to ur house and chopping half of ur brain off too
AnyTimeWalkThrough97 9 months ago
@AnyTimeWalkThrough97 Nothing touches its brain...
lolatmyaccounts 8 months ago
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bahahahahahahahahahah soooooo funneh!!! har har har
andrilicus 9 months ago
cow dehorning is not cruel but he did cut the horns to short, your supposed to cut them right at the edge not into the skin
xL3THALxNEXiSx 9 months ago 10
@xL3THALxNEXiSx the hell do you mean its not cruel, what if you had bone growing out of your head and they cut it off without you wanting them to. thats not cruel?
elixa4 5 months ago
@xL3THALxNEXiSx The guys dont care....they cant feel a thing
7bikerboy7 4 months ago
It's crule.. You have Keepd This Cow Many Years On your Farm . Shame On u You are Doing This With Your Animal , It Is Pain Ful For Your Animal.
zakaullahpathan 9 months ago
ihr seit doch keine menchen,ich wette es ist in australien
TheTiposuper 1 year ago
bitchsons
TheTiposuper 1 year ago
fuck you man idiots
TheTiposuper 1 year ago
Wow that looked brutal!!
1989beccy 1 year ago
first of all, 1622miguel, don't be an emotional chick, dehorning is a very practical thing to do, not only for the safety of humans being around them, but in a herd, they can gore each other. This is a very important thing to do. As for this video, the cow's horns should have been removed when it was a calf. Also, they should have just removed the tip, the base was too big, exposing the sinuses. As for the bleeding, that's very normal, the horns are full of arteries.
v10guy 1 year ago
@v10guy don't start on anyone here! if she wants to be an "emotional chick" then let her be! This is disgusting, they're cut far to short, and the cow is in alot of pain!! and don't you dare tell me it's not, that noise you hear as they cut it. thats a shout for help. ill come and pull your nails out, and see how you like that sort of pain.
TheRealMrsRPatz 11 months ago 9
@TheRealMrsRPatz your wonderfull I agree one hundred percent <3
dappledbaybeauty 10 months ago
@TheRealMrsRPatz : Well Saied.
zakaullahpathan 7 months ago
this is a great machine for dehorning quick rather than the wire .. please let me know what it is called and where i might get one to buy ..thank you from ireland
MrDuisigh 1 year ago
@MrDuisigh The tool is called a KeyStone dehorner. Most farm supplie catologs in the US sell them. Try enasco/farmandranch/.com The problem with Keystones is that if you don't go deep enough you can't pull the arterys to stop the bleeding. I like using wire better if you are not looking for a profesanal dehorning. wire is ALOT cheapper and they don't bleed if you put a tight rubber band around the base of there horns. rember to take the band off in a day or so!
MrCattleFarmer1 11 months ago
@MrDuisigh fuck out of here nigga!
MultiTheused 3 months ago
is this legal?
Jajo188 1 year ago
OMG =( whats this? men? can u explain??? and if cut your horns too? IN HUMANS!!!!
THIS COW ON 100% SUFFERING AND YOU MAKE SOMETHING LIKE THATH YOU DONT HAVE HEAD TO THINK IN OTHER WAY TO CUT THE HORN? YOU KIRIG RIGHT? THE COW IS BLOODING AND YOU SMILE LIKE A JERK!! HOPE PETA MAKE SOMETHING!!!
1622miguel 1 year ago
@1622miguel the hor ns are like you finger nails cut the too far back and they blled and the horns can grow inway and actualy harm the cow and dehorning paste is better that this but it has to be done
sdylke 1 year ago
the cow looks like its in pain, but compared to some videos ive seen this is a more in humane way to de horn a cow. nevertheless i still dont agree with it, and its still very painfull.
westernhorserider88 1 year ago
ouch
CreoleGuh504 1 year ago
pull those viens you can see them right on top
rancherjongus 1 year ago
I can understand why cows need to have their horns trimmed for safety reasons, so they don't gore other cows or the people who work with them, but isn't there a way of either trimming the horns down painlessly, or sedating them so they don't feel anything?
classifiedinfo 1 year ago
@classifiedinfo there are breeds which do not grow much for horns or no horns as all such as Polled Herefords, the optimal way to Dehorn is as they are calves while you are branding and castrating, we would then cover the area dehorned with tar to minimize infection and aid in healing, they seemed to be fine by the next day. Horns however aid in cooling an animal so in warmer climates they should be left.
mako7828 1 year ago
hey dum ass u r cutting them way to short
Catfishcommander 1 year ago
Why are you doing this to the cows??!!! Leave their own horns alone!! How would you feel if some cuts your penis off??? Idiot!!
JADEAV 1 year ago
@JADEAV it's for there own good
rancherjongus 1 year ago
your opinion of cutting horns is up the shit, what are you from victoria where your avarage heard is like 20 cows try getting through 3000 weiners properties that are like 500 000 acres, those burning things are shit cut em off they suffer for a day or 2 its done plus dehorning is much quicker
iggzdog1 1 year ago
Ok im a farmer and i have to say 2 things too say
A) This has to be done other wise when the cows fight they will stab each other and it will be ALOT more painfull than this.
B) Cutting the horns off is wrong, they should burn them off at a young age with anethetics and as the horns wouldent of groon propally it wont be painfull.
Bloody Americans
tractorboydavid 1 year ago 2
@tractorboydavid not much of a Farmer I would guess, Cow hide is very thick and they rarely push hard enough to inflict any damage on eachother, they can of course hurt eyes and whatever, now we de horned for our own safety, it should be done as calves and you use a De budder to nip the buds out, I guess the weirdo brits feel just burning for how long is more humane? crazy.
mako7828 1 year ago
@mako7828
haha it takes less than 1 miniute and the calf feels no pain, also its for in the milking parlor cows with horns would just toatally mangle everything up in there, understand yet?
tractorboydavid 1 year ago
@tractorboydavid lol bullshit @ feels no pain that is funny, and as for milking cows a good milk cow walks straight up to her spot, ya put on the cups, its done, and off she goes, Native Montanan multi generational farmer/ rancher here, like I said, yer not much of a farmer, people like you make the rest of us look like shit.
mako7828 1 year ago
@mako7828 haha i dont know what your game is mate but i am not a farmer because im 14? And you anyone educated would know that, you mr are a total knob head, you oboiusly dony know what you are on about, i bet you have never even been to a proper dairy farm
tractorboydavid 1 year ago
@mako7828 rarely push hard enough to hurt each other? Were did you learn that pearl of wisdom. A cow with horns will use them on another cow, give it time it will happen. And if they don't use them on each other they'll hook you. A cow with horns gets snotty it's common knowledge. More ranchers will agree then disagree. And The way the feedlots discounts for horns. It only makes good sense to knock them off
rancherjongus 1 year ago
rancherjongus lol again, you are gonna tell me what? that most people are uneducated mindless repeating baffoons, ya apparently that is well represented in all walks of life, good day.
mako7828 1 year ago
@mako7828 yeah, you keep telling yourself that. And one day you'll believe it! When your the odd man out that not tell you something? Your wrong. if you don't believe that cattle with horns will not hurt you or other cattle you truly are as you put it uneducated mindless repeating baffoons. the sorry thing about you is you have no guts to do what needs to be done! call yourself a multi generational rancher? well you honestley gave me a good laugh today. Utter Bozo!
rancherjongus 1 year ago
@rancherjongus lol I never said they could not be a problem for a rancher but for those of us who know how to actually handle cattle really, its not an issue, they do not hurt eachother, Now I suppose the odd accident could happen however they find themselves some way to get hurt anyhow, for hundreds of years people raised cattle, left horns on, and somehow they survied, again, horns play an intricate part in keeping hte animal cool. . Is there some part about that you have trouble comprehendin?
mako7828 1 year ago
@mako7828 Oh I know maybe in the fairytale land that you live in cattle sit at the table and drink tea and eat biscuits! No? Maybe in your unstable reality cattle who calve on pasture and have horns do not try to push the horn through your gut! Still not right? huh...,Or prehaps in your looney toon world cattle fall into single file and walk calmly through the gate or take turns eating at the bale feeder! and don't try to gore eachother with horns. I suggest first get some common sense.lol
rancherjongus 1 year ago
@rancherjongus so the real problem is you have no Idea how to keep cattle, nor how to raise or how to properly breed good tempered cattle, The real problem is you did not have the IQ to actually question what is going on, someone new (actually old) is presented to you and you go off, dude, get a grip, yer probably one of hte morons who feed cattle grnd up bits of cow N wonder why they get sick.
mako7828 1 year ago
@mako7828 o.k I'm going to try to dumb this down for u. cows have horns for a reason. Natural selection has gave cows horns so bulls may compete 4 breeding rights. Cows can compete 4 food. And protect there young from predators. (which is how a cow sees us) So really even the laws of nature are in my favor. Now u can be a moron and not except the truth. Or u can except it. But if u can't except laws of Nature and the facts then truthfully I have to wonder about your "ranching back ground"
rancherjongus 1 year ago
@rancherjongus sooooooo evidently you missed the "domestic" animal part of modern cattle, like I said before, have fun being a wanna be cowboy. most are anyhow.
mako7828 1 year ago
@mako7828 I'll tell you what. You make up the diffrence at the feedlot for the discount on horns. And you keep believing what you believe. Were I'll live in reality. With 90% of the ranchers. You keep pretending to be some rancher and not an animal rights guy. posing as a rancher. And I'll make a living in a saddle and you can believe half baked theories. Because obviously you have to be the dumbest person I've ever talked too. My suggestion 2 u is stick 2 what u know. Cause it ain't cows.
rancherjongus 1 year ago
If you think the horn is usless and cattle never charge and they never use there horns. Like I said u ain't no cattle man. And if your not a rancher you have no buisness talking about a subject you have no idea about! stick to the concrete and pavement and let real men do the jobs ur not williong to do!
rancherjongus 1 year ago
@rancherjongus No I stated they do spar, I also stated that rarely results in injury. I have never said I am against it, I merely offered reason as to why it is not entirely necessary as presented by the OP. Now you are in a froth over someone who may ranch differently, that is as ridiculous as the little dick morons who put down someone for raising Hereford because they raised Angus or Simmintal, you are not one of those too are you?
mako7828 1 year ago
@mako7828 I responded to you because of the tone that you took with this farmer in the video, that's it. And as far as the hereford comment. horns are a dominat trait as long as your keeping your own replacements it's not going to matter. Don't give a dam about the breed. a cow the weans a 800 ibs calf is a good cow. that's it. I knock the horns off in the fall. calf in the spring. Got no choice. no flies. there over it in three days.
rancherjongus 1 year ago
@rancherjongus if you go back and read my initial post to all of this you wold see I said the same thing about de horning cept I stated the next day they were fine. Yes we Raised polled Rolled Herefords. usually horns were nubs if at all, however Later we used Red Angus bull for the small head in birthing. I still preferred straight Hereford do to what I consider a better temperament and a bit more intelligent.
mako7828 1 year ago
@mako7828 finally! we agree on something but it has nothing to do we this dehorning junk. Red angus are easier to birth. especially if your calving them out on pasture. But there are a higher percentage of them got a mind of there own. You call them less intelligent I call it something else. But it's the same dung just a diffrent heap. But I deal with Charolais here. It's a little tuffer to find a moderate birth w8 but I've found the british breeds have a hard time putting on as many pounds.
rancherjongus 1 year ago
@rancherjongus never had much problem putting on weight as we lived in a very lush valley so good swamp grass for them to eat and light graining mixed with corn helped give them good weight. Never dealt with Charolais as it seemed other ranches i worked on we had to pull calves far to often. Anyhow least you didnt come back with "I have black bulls" no shit, guy told me that once.
mako7828 1 year ago
@rancherjongus I consider cattle intelligent after working with sheep. After that horrible experience I fully expected to go into the field and see our cattle preparing to launch a rocket.
mako7828 1 year ago
@mako7828 lol. Yeah I haven't heard about a sheps high I.Q. And I'll tell you what. This whole back and forth crap was my fault. I'm man enough to admit it. Never looked at the next page and I got mixed up to many hours in a baler and not enough in a bed! Guess I just expect people to start getting on our backs about this kind of stuff. sorry.
rancherjongus 1 year ago
@rancherjongus Dont sweat it there are no emotions visible and its easy to misread, its all good. I dono how big your spread is but I HATE bailing, we put up loose for quit a few years but dad "well I have that bailer and we just have to use it" fuck that, there is always something wrong, someone stole it and to be honest I was pretty happy *evil grin* besides we never had rolled ,so I got stuck bucking bails with my buddies. Anyhow huge kudo's for manning up, not necessary.
mako7828 1 year ago
@mako7828 well I'm running around 300 head but I put a third straw. strech the hay farther and I don't need as much land. but you can't get straw dropped behind a conventional any more or hardly it's all rotary combines now. So it's out all night while the dews down to make it easier.the year has been a beast (Raining every other day) it's been a long wet summer. ready for it to be over.
rancherjongus 1 year ago
@rancherjongus You know now this one is personal, and again, has to do with how big your spread is, but we were very picky about breeding, cost us some money in quantity but it helped with heavier better temperament herds. And I understand about bunny fuckers, I hate em, but I am just up front, yea Im sure branding hurts initially or de horning but try to explain why things have to be done and I think it goes better than trying to deny. The country needs education on agriculture.
mako7828 1 year ago
@mako7828 temperment on the cows I cull out the killers but the snotty ones I find they just protect there calves well. a lot of people around here lose a lot of calves but my cows seem to do a pretty good job of keeping predators away.They get awful snakey when there calving on grass. When I switch from January to early May calving I noticed cows that wanted rubs b4 were out to get u. And yes it would not do any 1 any harm to learn about agriculture. to far removed from reality nowadays
rancherjongus 1 year ago
@rancherjongus I can see that, seems like the angrier any creature is the better they survive, I did some beekeeping and that certainly was true with them as well, they were not so suspect able to disease as better tempered, although harder to work with. Feel for ya haying, Sold everything I had 20 years ago, miss the meat, do not miss the headaches. Good luck, Im trying for cushy work now days. Im good with soft hands now.
mako7828 1 year ago
@mako7828 there is no doubt they survive but it comes at a price. That's why I knock off the horns right away. I can handle a cow no horns easy enough but you get horns coming at ya and it takes a third nut to stand in there with them and put a tag in the calves ear. But I got a shark cage this year so I should be safer.
rancherjongus 1 year ago
@rancherjongus Now you could merely be intelligent and raise a breed Such as a Polled Hereford and solve yourself all these problems you keep running at the mouth about, But that would require actual thought. Or are you to Intent on presenting the "Im a cowboy" bullshit Image? Seriously dude, get a life.
mako7828 1 year ago
@mako7828 polled herefords.lol you gotta be joking right? well I can see your truly a lost cause I got work to do. see you later city sliker!
rancherjongus 1 year ago
@tractorboydavid fuck u talking about, alright ur suppose to cut the horns, but rlly do u have to go in that deep?? gawd i also believe u do ur job recklessly
MultiTheused 3 months ago
its not inhumane they have probably injected them with an anastetic to numb it i did it with my cows its our job too because itd be mor epain if the gouge each others eyes out with teir horns
blackmole88 1 year ago
@blackmole88 No anesthesia is an added expense and is not used.
mako7828 1 year ago
thats just like pealing ur hole fingernail off
and we all know that hurts!
408hart 1 year ago
how is this not illegal? mean your basicly killing the poor thing wow what have this world gone in to
JoeRican1096 2 years ago
I wish you were that cow...
gundam178 2 years ago
why do u have to do that and does it hurt them...
dbfan17 2 years ago
Jimmy your gay
aj3568 3 years ago
its not that intense, but hey- i got to see a cow get his horns clipped off! nice vid.
greenshoyru 3 years ago