@shesaterror The JAMA report links her as Tuts mother. If her name is Nefertiti or not, it has no bearing that this mummy, KV35, is still the mother of Tut.
Okay, this is an example of how people use pseudoscience to advance ridiculous racist agendas. First of all, Nefertiti was depicted in her own time as a woman of dark complexion, and the features of her bust are consistent with other depictions of her. Second of all, "Indo-European" refers to LANGUAGE. It only refers to race if you're a Nazi. Third of all, don't get me started on your idiot translation and notion of the word "fair."
@oaklandcami 1. Indo-European speakers *are* Indo-European people. 2. The anthropologists classed the skull as "Indo European" thats not negroid no matter how much you spin. Her bust is consistent with other realistic statues, not the conventional Amarna art form that suddenly sprung up and died when Akhenaten died. Egyptians didn't describe themselves as black, nor depict themselves as they did Nubians. watch?v=Ru4mBNKiII4&feature=channel_video_title
@oaklandcami "how people use pseudoscience to advance ridiculous racist agendas" .. . You should know about THAT. Thats precisely what you negrocentricists attempt to do all the time, .. . oh no, wait a minuite, . . THATS "TRUTH!!!!" .
@egyptforever50000 Oh yes! I have seen her pics, and have been told that by a few other people who have noticed the same. She resembles Nefertiti to a "T".
@egyptforever50000 I did. Where do you see a resemblance? While both women are certainly attractive, Nefertiti's skin and eyes are noticeably darker than Monica's. She has a lower forehead than her, too. Nefertiti's nose is broader (at the nasal area) and her ears are more pronounced. Her neck is longer, too. Monica has an attenuated chin; Nefertiti doesn't. Oh, did I forget to mention Nefertiti has epicanthic folds around her eyes?
@FrancisGalton What you stated is the physical description of the Mediterranean phenotype. Nefertiti's heavy eye lids however should not be confused with epicanthic folds.
@phoenician7 No offense, but you need to bone up on your physical anthropology. Heavy eyelids are usually the result of fatigue and cause puffiness, making the person look older, which is absent from the bust of Nefertiti. Epicanthic folds cover the medial canthus of the eye and are caused by a lower-based nose bridge, which Nefertiti clearly had. By the way, DNA tests prove the ancient Egyptians were NOT "Mediterraneans" (i.e. Southern Europeans) but in fact Northeast African Caucasians.
@FrancisGalton Look at her eyes, she has no epicanthic folds, if she did, the kohl would have been lost at the corners. She is marked with heavy lids, how the artist intended. The anthropologists stated that her skull was indicative, specifically of an Indo-European. Nor did I state they were "Southern Europeans" - a lame attempt on your part, but have always maintained they were NA Mediterranean Caucasoids - closely related, and cluster with European and Eurasian peoples.
@filida The mummy was once claimed to be *supposed* mummy of Nefertiti by Egyptologist Fletcher - I made that clear in the video. Whoever the *mummy* is, it is the mother of Tut and dna has confirmed it.
Well, you refuters certainly do have superior choices in musical accompaniment to those afrocentricists ( with their typical lousy rap and hip hop selections ) and THAT alone gives you credability over them with me !
This "Younger lady" isn't Nefertiti. They haven’t found the body of Nefertiti. The "Younger lady's" DNA results did come back positive as King Tut's mom though. At first they thought it was Kiya, Akhenaten’s other wife. But now they don't know who the "Younger lady" is. She must have been of importance though cause she was buried next to Queen Tiye. (King Tut's Grandmother and Akhenaten’s mother)
@mspumba24 As an unprovable notion; it could be Kiya, if she made the very powerful Tiye happy by birthing an heir. Dr. Hawass put forth the idea that Tiye could have been a tough mother-in-law to Nefertiti. Just an idea.
Caucasions are not the only race to have fair skin. The Asiatic Phonecians of what is now lebanon and the Assyrians also had light skin. "White" does not equal European, and European doesn't="white". In fact if you would care to look at images of native Sicilians and Maltese, who are considered European peoples, they have skin that is "GASP!!' not pale ghost white like the vikings and Celts, but fair olive to brown skin!!
Caucasions are not the only race to have fair skin. The Asiatic Phonecians of what is now lebanon and the Assyrians also had light skin. "White" does not equal European. In fact if you would care to look at images of native Sicilians and Maltese, who are considered European peoples, they have skin that is "GASP!!' not pale ghost white like the vikings and Celts, but fair olive to brown skin!!
@lutzdify Lol, I think phoenician7 *just may* understand that concept lutzdify- have you seen how many videos he has put out? Fewer people on Youtube know more about race!
A good example ... for whites.. and blacks are nilotic verses bantu and armenian vs. indian... Strong gentic (phenotypes does not imply strong genetic culture types)... different perspective. We are ALL DIFFRENT SHADES OF AFRICAN. ...Period. The Egyptians were not the first great whites, or the next great blacks... they were great Egyptians of hamitic and semetic stock. Just Great Egyptians of their own customs, culture and genetics. peace
Thus, (early and Semetic and Japhatic mixtures latter) more than not, thus cycling in process. Please black and white as defined by American definitions of culture, the one stamp label does not apply to Egyptians. We are disrespecting them to claim lineage so flippingly.
The best way to conceptually think of the Egyptian scenario is to think in cycling circles over very long periods of time. The "white" racial and ethnic definition as well as the"black" racial and ethnic definition both missed the mark of a egyptian. DNA supports such structure. The Egyptian contains genetic dispositions of both races/ethnicities, as both are have filtered through and from the Egyptian structure which is primarily Hamatic and Semetic mixtures.
Idiots who keep subdividing clearly have their own agenda. The Human Genome Project determined that 99.9% of the human genetic complement is the same in everyone, regardless of "RACE." Furthermore, Race is used as "Modern Day" social construct, not a scientific classification...
@MainStOrchestra “The 99.9 percent number is pure nonsense,” Wigler’s group sampled DNA from 20 people from around the world. They detected 76 major differences among the people, differences known as copy number polymorphisms. This means that some sections of genetic code are repeated, but the numbers of repetitions vary among people. This “could explain why people are different” … said Scherer, whose team reached similar findings to those of the Cold Spring Harbor group.
Nice muzik in the vid it made it that more believable. Im not going to argue about the Egyptian's skin tone in the middle of the damn dessert. I just wanted everyone to Marinate on this next statement. Blacks are labeled negroid and this term is derived from the word negro meaning black, but whites are labeled caucasoid and this term pertains to them originating from the Caucus Mountains. Anything wrong with that? Dont be so FUCKING DUMB. We are all part of the "Human Race."
@MainStOrchestra It's "Caucasus" and the term Caucasoid has nothing to do with "Caucasus". Its a type of humans. Do you think Negroid came from a country called Negria?
All anthropologists agree that the criteria of race are physical characteristics. The tests of racial distinction are the morphological and metrical variations of such bodily characters as hair, skin, nose, eyes, stature, and differences in shape and proportions of the head, the trunk, and the limbs.
@phoenician7 Do you think Negroid came from a country called Negria? nope which is my whole argument and the contradiction in question that your missing where do they (Negroids) come from? It makes no sense to classify one group by their geographical originations & physical characteristics then 1 group only by their physical characteristics...... But if it makes sense to you and your willing to except that BS Great your an idiot and a follower... lol
@phoenician7 If your willing to except the assumption not Fact that Negroids come strictly from sub-Saharan Africa or Africa in General lol why would we not call them Afrikanoid?? I know, makes no sense. Because essentialy scientist would then have to call blacks in America Negroid which would completely make sense and justify the term Negroid. Word Play is extremely important and as a supervisor or boss would tell you pay close attention to detail...
@phoenician7 your statement about anthropologists is clearly incorrect according to the definitions of the following words and their associations. Keep in mind that the terms Mongol, "Caucasus," and Negro have been around for yrs. Yet only one is a color while the other 2 referrence specificgeographical regions. Thus it makes nosense to call ppl of Africa Negroid instead of Afrikanoid. You may think thats not a big deal but theres a reason for everything. So if thats incorrect then what else is?
@phoenician7 Its like the image of Jesus Christians worship today. What is the purpose of these contradictions. So A bronze skinned Jesus with hair of wool was able to hide amongst "white fair skinned" ppl in Egypt??? Dont 4 get this video above is supposedly proof the Egyptians were "FAIR/WHITE" skinnned...Scientist do their best to coincide with the bible lol...Tho you tried your best, I as usual was able to point out the holes in everyones story.I know Ijust fuxed your head up lol Hit d books
It's describing the COLOR >> NOT << texture. And his head, in opposition to his hair was white. Doesn't describe a negro does it. His feet like FINE BRASS. Leave it to a deceiver such as yourself to insert "bronze" in a place it doesn't edist. Egyptians depicted Levantine populations as Caucasoids.
@phoenician7 O and hell no I dont think Jesus was black nor white because thats a modern term used by Governments to confuse ppl. Their only colors and have nothing to do with anything really. Jesus was Probably Egyptian or an Arabian type not sure but he sounded like a cool dude lol and he def had some melanin traveling in and living in the dessert. Anyone know why Christians strive to be Christ like while Jesus wasn't a Christian and can anyone tell me where he dissappeared to for some yrs?
@andy7666 correct Race does exist however theres something completely incorrect about how "MODERN" science flip flops, adds BS, contradicts, and switches stories merely for convenience. If a Race of Aliens invaded today, whether they were all grey or came in many varieties of colors, You and Everyone one else would simply say a "RACE" of Aliens has invaded.... You may want to reread my earlier statement and you will see what I mean.. Nothing scientific about the term Negroid
@MainStOrchestra lol what do you know? The three main racial classifications work JUST FINE for the FBI and anthropologists. This is your way to skirt around the fact that Egyptians are labeled as Caucasoid by the Social Sciences.
@andy7666 Since your backing "Science" lets try again.The "Scientific" Term or classification of Negroid is derived from the spanish word Negro for black. Nothing to do with where the Negroid ppl came from no mountain no continent no geogrpahical origination mentioned nothing scientific. However, "Science" specifically tells us the Caucasoid originated from the Caucus mountains. lol You cant realy be missing the picture here.
@andy7666 We have Mongoloid & Caucasoid which have clear geographical originations Caucus Mountains and Mongolia or Asia can clearly be associated with these 2. Where n the hell do Negroids come from? lol I've never heard of any place called Negro there Negril Jamaica or the Niger river and Nigeria in Africa where Nigger comes from but im missing where Negroids come from? Anyone?? A little Help Here?
@MainStOrchestra There is no place called "Caucus Mountains" and Caucasians do not "originate" from there; and hypocritically, on the flip side you then make statements that run contradictory to your own argument i.e. " It makes no sense to classify one group by their geographical originations & physical characteristics"
Its fun watching you argue with yourself. All we have to do is wait for you to implode.
@Saraswathiputra Sorry, but the information you provided us with can’t be considered enough in order to make such claims. The Armenian theory of Indo-European homeland has all the serious support in comparative linguistics, archaeology and genetic engineering…at least take a look at my featured video.. world’s earliest attestations of all the symbols typical of Indo-Europeans are found on Neolithic Petroglyphs all over Armenian Highland.
@Saraswathiputra It seems like you disregard everything existing around the world, or you are just not aware of all that...before sticking to something, you'd better make a survey and know more about the rest of the world...ok I can understand your patriotism, but if it doesn't hurt the truth. Like Aristotle says "Plato is dear to me, but the truth is still dearer".
@Saraswathiputra You say that they found the motif of peacock in Mitanni, and it means it came from India... just the other day a friend of mine was asking me why peacock is so peculiar to Armenian culture, in Armenian folk tales, in paintings...etc.. I don't mind that there can be similarities in Aryan cultures but it does not prove anything of what you say... you speak of the deity Mitra, but you have no notion of the Armenian sun deity of Mihr.
@Saraswathiputra By Prof. Flinders Petrie Queen Tii or Thiy is surmised to have been of Mitannian-Armenian origin (see Budge, iv, 96-98, as to her being " Mesopotamian ") ; and Prof. Petrie, like Mr. Breasted, lias inferred that she brought with her the cult of which her son became the devotee.
The interesting thing here is not even if Queen Tiy was from Mitanni or not, but that the father of Egyptology Flinders Petrie identifies Mitannian with Armenian.
@Saraswathiputra Your mother, apparenty received it from an Aryan invasion since all blue eyed people have a single common ancestor and there is only one place where blue eyes originates, and its not India.
"All blue-eyed people can be traced back to one ancestor who lived 10,000 years ago near the Black Sea"
@Saraswathiputra I've already provided the video that debunks your claim. You attack Manilius, yet reference Arrian, neither lived at the time of Egypt's1st dynasty so you pick and choose. The Naqada period right before dynasty1 indicates Sumerian Egyptian relation, nothing with India. I have been rather polite and respectful towards you, allowing you to post your opinion for months on my videos, yet when confronted, you hit back with aggressive attitude laced with profanities.
The modern archaeology discovery of Dried Saraswathi river exactly as in Rigveda whose details already I sent to you.
The river dried in 1900BC as per scientific isotopic text , in Rigveda many incidents elaborately given like ten kings war or Dasarajna on the mighty currents of Saraswathi river with it full flow.This pushed Rigvedic age atleast 6000BC or above.That minimum time only Saraswathi river was big as told in Rigveda.
@Saraswathiputra Indians don't possess blue eyes, which originated in the Black Sea region near Europe. Think about your caste system and why there are light skinned Indians and dark Dravidian types.
Here is reference from Greeks who visited India 2300 years ago.At that time Egypt was under their control
"The appearance of the inhabitants is also not very different in India and Ethiopia: the southern Indians are rather more like Ethiopians as they are black to look on, and their hair is black; only they are not so snub-nosed or woolly-haired as the Ethiopians; the northern Indians are most like the Egyptians physically." -- Arrian (Indica 6.9)
@Saraswathiputra Arrian and Strabo agree that the Egyptians resembled northern Indians who are usually straight-haired and occasionally light-skinned as southern Europeans rather than the darker Dravidian types of southern India. Marcus Manilius states Egypt is" nearer to us and its moderate climate imparts a medium tone." Therefore comparing them to Mediterranean peoples because they're located "nearer to us" (i.e. southern Europe).
Not only waddell but ancient Indian text such as RaghuVamsa confirm the migration of Menes aka Asa Manja out of India with enmity with his father Sagara.
You should not try to fool others simply to push what do you want on your history.
The testimony of Eusebius and Philostratus. In the seventh century, St. Isidore made a summary in his Encyclopedia of knowledge derived from ancient Greek and Latin authors, many of whose works have now disappeared. Regarding 'Ethiopians' he says in his Etymologiarium (IX.2.128): “They came in ancient times from the River Indus, established themselves in Egypt between the Nile and the sea, towards the south, in the equatorial regions.
There is no reason for insults, I haven't insulted you. I read your emails, you are basing your information mainly off L.A. Waddells books - I have several of them, but you are taking the information out of context, applying it to actual Indians when Waddell says no such thing. In Egyptian Civilization It's Sumerian Origin & Real Chronology, Waddell states the following:
pg173- "1. That civilization did not first arise in Egypt, but arose amongst the Sumerians... of thefair long-headed, broad-browed and blue-or grey-eyed Aryan race; and of the same type as the classic Greeks, whos heroes and heroines are described as tall, fair and golden haired and blue- or "glaucous" grey-eyed, and who are represented in their sculptures as broad-browed...
6... Egypt appears to have taken no part in the diffusion of Civilization to India.
Based on this Burchard Brentjes argued that Indo-Aryans were settled in the Near East much before 1600 B.C.E.With all the trading relations between various parts of India and the Near East, dating as far back as 4000 BCE with the find of cotton in Dhuwelia and carnelian bead in Mesopotamia in the third millennium BCE, the migration of Indo-Aryans from ancient India is not a fantasy tale.
In fact there are many arguments in support of. Archaeologists have not found Central Asian, Eastern European or Caucasian culture in the Mittani kingdom. At the time same time they found the peacock motif -- something which could have come from India.
There are several reasons, but to be brief, I shall only give three: 1. the deities Indra,Mitra, Varun.a, and Nasatya are Indian deities and not Iranian ones, because in Iran Varun.a is unknown and Indra and Nasatya appear as demons; 2. the name Vasukhani makes sense in Sanskrit as a "mine of wealth" whereas in Iranian it means "good mine" which is much less likely; 3. satta, or sapta, for seven, rather than the Iranian word hapta, where the initial `s' has been changed to `h'
But is this language Indo-Iranian, Iranian or Indo-Aryan or to rephrase: did the Mittanis speak the PIE branch of India.? That matter was settled in 1960 by Paul Thime
A text by a Mitannian named Kikkuli uses words such as aika (eka, one), tera (tri, three), panza (panca, ¯ve), satta (sapta, seven), na (nava, nine), vartana (vartana, round). Another text has babru (babhru, brown), parita (palita, grey), and pinkara (pi _ ngala, red). Their chief festival was the celebration of visuva (solstice) very much like in India(As per clay tablet details).( If they are from India,how they celebrate the festival peculiar to India).
DNA analysis of people in India clearly shows that some of our ancestors migrated from places like Southern Russia and parts of Ukraine fairly recently (a few thousand years)...
indiafirsthand.c o m /2010/10/04/hinduism-in-india-originated-from-steppes/
This is not the real bust of Nefertiti, it has already been proven by Swiss art historian Stierlin (A white man). Also, they did a special of this on Discovery channel and the reconstruction shows that this statue is in fact fake. Nefertiti was a black woman. You whites love to steal people's history but it's a known fact that this is NOT the bust of Nefertiti.
The testimony of Eusebius and Philostratus. In the seventh century, St. Isidore made a summary in his Encyclopedia of knowledge derived from ancient Greek and Latin authors, many of whose works have now disappeared. Regarding 'Ethiopians' he says in his Etymologiarium (IX.2.128): “They came in ancient times from the River Indus, established themselves in Egypt between the Nile and the sea, towards the south, in the equatorial regions.
@Saraswathiputra Ok I don't know much about the origins of Ethiopians, but I wouldn't mind if they came from the River Indus. In the same way I can bring examples of poetry like in the German poem devoted to St Anno it says that "Bavarians came from the magnificent Armenia", or the Anglo-Saxon chronicle that says that the Brits came from Armenia...etc.. one of the three theories of the Indo-European homeland is the Armenian Highland (Anatolia) and it is supported by a great number of scholars.
@Saraswathiputra What is proved beyond doubt?? Mitanni was a Hurrian kingdom.
“Yet the Hurrians did not disappear from history. Away to the North in their Armenian homeland, they entrenched themselves and build up the kingdom of Urartu.”
* Jacquetta Hawkes, “The First Great Civilizations,” London, 1967
"The new kingdom of Urartu, which proved to be the stronghold of the Hurrian race."
@eva03arm Thats right eva, you're correct. "swraswathiputra" seems to be inventing a myth.
DNA analysis of people in India clearly shows that some of our ancestors migrated from places like Southern Russia and parts of Ukraine fairly recently (a few thousand years) ...
indiafirsthand.c o m/2010/10/04/hinduism-in-india-originated-from-steppes/
Queen Nefertiti of Egypt was a native of Mitanni. The Mittani Kingdom of Armenia was an off-shoot of the Hurrian kingdom. The Hurri and the Mittani peoples were the contemporaries the Hittites and the Hyksos, within whom they shared many cultural and political aspects. Today, all these aforementioned nations are considered to be, in varying degrees, proto-Armenians; that is modern day Armenians are direct descendants of the remnants of those ancient tribes.
@eva03arm Yes, that is what I have read as well - that Nefertiti was of Mitanni origin. As a side note, it is interesting to know that Amenhotep III and Thutmose IV also married Mitanni women.
@phoenician7 Exactly.... so don't you think that R1b of Tutankhamon can be explained by this? his father- Ekhnaton being the son of Gilu hepa - Mitani princess... and they say that Tutankhamon's ancestry goes back to Caucasus, but in the region of Caucasus it's only Armenians who have Indo-European origin and the dominant haplogroup of Armenians is R1b which is called Italic/Germanic/Hittite/Armenian.... so shouldn't we seek the truth in Egypt-Mitanni interrelations
@eva03arm what the fuck is wrong with you westerners what's this Hindu bla bla got to do with us Africro semetic just back off from our history and heritage can you live some things for us you have filled your museum with our heritage is not god enough what a bunch of thieves you are!!!!!!!!!!!!
@TheResilientAMAZIGH No need to get irritated, there are all the credible facts that three generations of Egyptian queens were brides from the Kingdom of Mitanni, their companion country in the north! All the correspondence the Mitanni kings had with Egyptian pharaohs is recorded in Amarna tablets, like when King Tushratta was asking Akhenhaten for more gold and precious things for sending him his daughter Tadu Hepa (Nefertiti) and many other facts one can't neglect even if you don't like them
@eva03arm Armenian don't mix with Turks nor do they mix with ugly dark skinned north African not good enough for the superiority of the Hindu europien race
Armenian ingenuity used dark north Africans as slaves to built the pyramid as well,
mate please stick to your kinds the germanik tribes that much better for you kind
@TheResilientAMAZIGH Armenians didn't mix with Turks because Armenians are Christians and have always struggled for their identity, besides turks are genociders occupying historical Armenians lands.. but it has nothing to do with this topic.. there's never been slavery in Armenia and we would never call anyone "ugly dark skinned north African".
Whoever Ancient Egyptians were, judging by their civilization, the Kings of Mitanni would consider them worthy of establishing family relations.
I wonder has anyone even considered that the fair of face phrase meant she was beautiful? And not because of her skin tone because if they wanted to refer to that(skin tone) they would have said fair of skin or at least added that in her description(who ever described her). I mean the fair of face phase could go either way, but as of now there isnt and wont be a clear answer until Zahi Hawass or whoever the new person is thats in charge allows some DNA testing.
@chibi171 Did you pay attention to the video? Nefertiti was classified with an Indo-European skull, the logic of the skin color follows. No need to toss around unnecessary speculation - unless you're in denial.
news.yahoo.c o m /half-european-men-share-king-tuts-dna-175902521.h t m l
You're in luck, read what the article says about Nefertiti's relative, Tut ,it just came out 10 hrs ago.
@phoenician7 No not in denial just a skeptic since I have never seen any legit document stating she was Indo-European partly because her mummy has never been found to suggest such. As for the European men having Tuts DNA there was never a official report released by Hawass or anyone else for that matter who did the actual test stating he was European or had European ancestry. So until the people who handle and see these mummies on a daily basis give out answers I will be skeptical.link didnt wrk
@phoenician7 But see they assume it to be her plus I want to say I think they finally did say it wasnt her but someone else awhile back. I dont take alot of what Hawass says to truth I respect his passion but he has done questionable things as well. Yes he has said they werent black or Arab but he never said white either. Also he claims there were no Hebrew/Israelite in Egypt but he hasnt produced any scientific evidence to back up his claims. Cont.
@phoenician7 As for are they black well yes and no the Nubians pretty much founded Ancient Egypt and they have throughout Egyptian history been a known presence to rule/be slaves/allies and did trade with Egyptians, but mixture did occur with the hyksos(they ruled for a short period) and Libyans would have mixed with them but it was still predominantly African. Later you have Greeks/Romans/Arabs etc. mixing with them so in truth Egyptians would have mostly been mixed neither black ,white etc.
@phoenician7 Nefertiti was a black woman. This bust isn't even the real bust of Nefertiti. Swiss art historian Henri Stierlin proved this. Discovery channel has also created a reconstruction of Nefertiti and she looks nothing like this fake Caucasian woman you all are trying to prove as Nefertiti. White people make me laugh. Haha ha she was a black woman and you hate it. In your dreams she can be white so keep on dreamin' suckerrrrr.
Afrocentrics make me laugh. A "Swiss art historian" doesn't know Egyptian history. Steirlin didn't conduct any paint analysis, he's running his mouth for attention. The paint is dated to 3300years old. Now you explain how that is "fake" and tell me how many negroid skulls are classified as Indo-European.
" this fake Caucasian woman"
Thanks for admitting the 3300 year old bust is Caucasian.
@phoenician7 She has been proven to be black, just because he is swiss doesn't mean this his findings are incorrect. Whites are not fit to live in Africa, you would have been eaten alive by the sun. This bust is indeed a fake, the stone itself isn't over 3,300 years old. So by you proving the paint to be old doesn't really prove anything and even then the paintings were contaminated. This statue is a fake and you hate to admit that Nefertiti was indeed a black woman. White people make me laugh.
Then PROVE it! Instead, you are UNABLE to come up with any *ACTUAL* information that states this. Where is it? Instead, you are running your mouth. I presented a *SOURCE* as stated by an anthropologist who EXAMINED her skull indicating she belongs to the Indo European type. Until you can PROVIDE a SOURCE refuting this hands on examination, your opinion is bunk.
@phoenician7 She has been proven to be black, just because he is swiss doesn't mean this his findings are incorrect. Whites are not fit to live in Africa, you would have been eaten alive by the sun. This bust is indeed a fake, the stone itself isn't over 3,300 years old. So by you proving the paint to be old doesn't really prove anything and even then the paintings most likely are contaminated.It's fake and you hate to admit that Nefertiti was indeed a black woman. White people make me laugh.
@Jessica35771 "just because he is swiss doesn't mean this his findings are incorrect."
His findings ARE incorrect. That's the point. And he was refuted AFTER he made his illogical statement. He never ran tests on the paint to confirm his claim and unless you can find an actual PAPER that REFUTES the dating of the paint, then you have no ground to stand on. She is described in Egyptian texts as Fair of Face.
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@Jessica35771 "This bust is indeed a fake, the stone itself isn't over 3,300 years old... contaminated."
Go on, provide a SOURCE and an actual QUOTE that makes this claim. Opinions ARENT facts.
"Whites are not fit to live in Africa"
That really says it all. Your racism and bias exposed. There are Whites living all over Africa, ESPECIALLY North Africa. Who the hell do you think established Johannesburg and Cape Town in South Africa? Get a clue.
@Jessica35771 The truth is "racist" to those that hate the truth. You have been unable to find a single statement disparaging to blacks in this video, nor have you been able to provide a single shred of *evidence* to back your projections. Why? It's because there are none. That's right.
Saying "Whites are not fit to live in Africa" is racist in and of itself and says it all, really. Only Whites can turn red (paintings of Egyptians depicted red) or tan (other Egyptians).
@phoenician7 Actually there are plenty of nubian tribes in africa who painted their skin red which is depicted in the egyptian paintings lol so you proved nothing. And the truth is racist to you because you hate the fact that white people couldn't live in Egypt because they couldn't take the sun. Also, there are plenty of blacks who have brown woodchuck colored skin which has reddish undertone to it so they were black and they wore nubian hair styles. They were black... face it.
@Jessica35771 The Nubians -AS DEPICTED BY THE EGYPTIANS - were not depicted with painted skin, let alone red skin. Not only does the skin seperate Egyptians from Nubians, but the facial features and hair as well. The truth is racist, because you;re in denial of the fact that Egypt was a Caucasian civilization and still is.Tocharians? SW Americans? You ignored these - Whites who live(d) under the hot desert sun; negroes don't possess ruddy skin. Egyptians were/are Caucasian face it fool.
@Jessica35771 "Indigenous North Africans are genetically quite distinct from sub-Saharan Africans (1), and this difference is reflected in their lighter skin and European/Middle Eastern physical features."Science 6 April 2007:Vol. 316. no. 5821, pp. 50 - 53
And then I have at a minimum of 350 pages of genetic studies that prove it.
@Jessica35771 And if you don't think blacks avoid the sun then you're fooling yourself, they seek shade so much that some even wear sweaters during the summer! Get real and go visit a beach on holiday. See who is there and who is not there.
Blonde haired - blue eyed Tocharians lived in the desert for thousands of years (as did Egyptians an the current inhabitants of the American SW). It's best to read up on facts before making ignorant comments.
@phoenician7 The blacks who do that just don't want to get darker, those are the ignorant ones. So, by you saying that doesn't prove anything because we have natural protection against the sun and you don't so I don't believe in the BS that white people say about being in Africa. White people wish that Africa was their land, hahaha it really makes me laugh. The greatest history went on in Africa. LOL white people are unfit to live in Africa.
@Jessica35771 You don't want to believe facts, you rather invent your own realities since truth stings you so much. Africa never was a "black mans land" as you ignorantly imply. Whites have natural protection, tanning is the result of being in the sun.. It has nothing to do about "wishing" little girl.
CAUCASIAN constituting, or characteristic of a race of humankind native to Europe, North Africa, and southwest Asia and classified according to physical features.
@phoenician7 Dont get me wrong or think I am trolling since I like to watch these kind of vids and see how people come to a conclusion based on their research, but due to a lot of controversy on the Egyptian race I wont believe or take to heart everything I read. Basically I have to hear it from the horses mouth.
@chibi171 LOL but then again you favorite Afrocentric videos with no questions asked. You have already made your mind up, you are tip toeing and tap dancing because you are in complete and total denial of statements made by experts who have dedicated their entire lives to the field, you rather, willingly, at face value, accept fallacious "black Egyptian" videos sidelined with racist remarks against Whites. I have seen enough from you.
@phoenician7 as for Afrocentric videos they do provide more documented evidence that I have been able to find(mind you not on Afrocentric sites) that pretty much say the same or similar things. These experts are usually also white as well so to hear it from them as well you cant call the Afrocentrics as well. But like I said I personally believe the first Egyptians were Africans and on down the line they became a mixed race/civilization. Take the US for example
@phoenician7 Also just to let you know EVERYONE has been tip toeing and tap dancing around the Egyptians racial backgrounds. I am merely saying they were mixed they were neither straight black or whatever else. But if you aske me both Afrocentric and Eurocentric vids do make racist remarks against the other. I have watched various vids and can easily send you the links. I am neither one of those but a realist anyone who assumes the AE to be straight black or white cant be credible at all
@chibi171 But Nefertiti is another case, there's enough evidence in Amarna letters which come to prove that she was a Mitanni princess - Tadukhepa, her skull is no doubt Indo-European because the people of Mitanni were Indo-European, Northern part of Mitanni being part of the Armenian Highland which is considered to be the homeland of Indo-Europeans, and besides she was called the Lady of the North and South and Mitanni lies right North of Egypt !!!
Why would any European argue African history? Europeans have had a very nice royal wedding with the william and kate people and should be proud of their place in recent history!!!
As I see it any white original Europeans traveling to Africa probably did so because they were bored and it appears they never returned tto Europe therefore distancing themselves from being white.
So more than likely this is like someone from the midwest traveling to the bustling east coast and never returning.
@Isopotion Your rant doesn't make sense to the educated. Recent history? LOL what history did your Sub Saharan West African ilk *ever* produce? I find it ironic, and quite frankly, damn racist of you refering to others as "cave dwellers" such as you did under another video, when in reality, people of your ilk have never contributed anything to society in the past 10,000+ years.
@sexyrose93 Africa is not a race but a geographic location. Last time I checked Johannesburg is in South Africa, yet it was established by Dutch Europeans.
@sexyrose93 What is "African"? Africans come in many races, yet here you are refering to "Africa" - a geographic location as a race. "African" in a useless irrelevant geographical sense is a mis-use of geography and phylogeny.
Egyptians weren't negroids, refer to a genetically or anthropologically based scientific journal.
@phoenician7 OMG!!! Egyptian people are black African people. Egyptians are dark skinned people not pale white people from Europe! Egypt is in North East Africa. Why white people always be in denial. Egyptian people had African features NOT European. So today if you go ask a egyptian person tell them that their ancestors were white people they'll laugh at you're ass. Man you're so brainwashed by your own race.
@sexyrose93 You foolish racist bigot. You have done nothing to support your bogus remarks. You're a blowhard pontificator spewing fabricated clueless opinion because it FEELS GOOD. I'm from that region and I'm laughing at your stupid ass. Now define what "African features" are!
@phoenician7 You called me racist because i beileve Queen Nefertiti is a black woman instead of a white woman. You can define what are African features on google or yahoo. Since you called me a stupid ass. You're ignorant and stupid for saying Nefertiti is a beautiful Caucasian woman, When it clearly shows she never was Caucasian. Nefertiti is a beautiful Black woman!!! You're being racist by saying " No wonder why blacks are such failures at everything" in your other comments.
@sexyrose93 You're being racist because you're going off on White people when asked simple questions for evidence to support your bogus claim of Egypt being "black". You cant produce said evidence because you have none so instead resort to attacking White people out of frustration and desperation, vile racist loser. Hell you couldn't even define the term "African features" but instead tap dance and tell me to google it - it's because you don't have a damn clue. LMAO! Damn you're dumb.
@sexyrose93 " i beileve Queen Nefertiti is a black"
Beliefs are not facts, moron.
“In the case of the skull believed by a number of UK experts to be that of Nefertiti, this particular skull could be classified as Indo-European" (The Biomedical Scientist November 2003)
How are you going to refute it? Oh that's right, bigot, you're going to continue on with your racial hatred and lies against Whites.
@phoenician7 Okay, You just said beliefs are not facts right!!! Then you said in the case of the skull believed by number by Uk experts to be that of Nefertiti. Omg you're so dumb she's not Indo-European. Tell me what did i said to have hatred against whites. You're the one saying racist remarks against blacks. Why do i need to be jealous for?? When she's clearly a black woman. Now who's the moron!
@sexyrose93 The experts didn't classify the skull as negroid. They classified the skull as Indo-European, meaning Caucasoid, dumbass. They didn't say "she was IndoEuropean" which wouldn't negate the fact that her ancestry probably was, based on their classification. You keep uttering that she is "clearly a black woman" yet you have been asked REPEATEDLY for the evidence. You failed to present it after 3 days of nonsense arguing it only implicates you you as the racist moron, racist moron.
@phoenician7 Living a life of denial and lies only causes you misery. The Egyptians were black. Deal with it, loser. Blacks didn't fail at nothing remember white people had hidden everything that blacks accomplished, but also stolen blacks history made it white. So white people can feel more superior over people of color. funny how white people get upset when you tell them the truth.
@sexyrose93 With all you racist rant and rhetoric you STILL haven't produced one shred of evidence to support your bogus lies. Where is the evidence? What's that? You dont have any? Of course you dont - in all your racism and hatred against Whites and the lies you've vomited it's no surprise. The one living a life of lies and denial is you, Afroclown. You are a failure.
@phoenician7 Just because i said Queen Nefertiti wasn't white doesn't mean i have hatred against whites. Some of my close friends are white. I'm also mixed with Irish. You call me a racist yet you said i'm a Afroclown. I never said anything racist against you!!! Here's my evidence asshole! In fact the Queen Nefertiti's is a dark skinned female (black), known as ancient Nubian-Egyptian Queen of Nile, more powerful than her husband Akhenoton.
@sexyrose93 Sure it does, because, based on your racist delusion you are lying about Caucasian people. I don't give a damn who your friends are or who you're mixed with since it has nothing to do with Egypt.
"Here's my evidence"
More like here is my lie, swallow it up because I have no supporting evidence to back this claim whatsoever.
@phoenician7 The Nubian are originally a dark skinned nation that which with time had been divided to Ethiopia, Sudan and Egypt with other neighboring smaller nations. This includes the Nubian Kings and Queens that had ruled ancient Egypt as an Egyptian Pharaohs, and that's where the origin of Queen Nefertiti come from, her royal roots goes as far as Ethiopian Royal Family. (Kemet world). I supported my evidence. Now try to prove me wrong. One day I hope you will have respect for black people.
@sexyrose93 Nefertiti wasn't a damn Nubian. What the hell is wrong with you?! Now I am certain that I am dealing with a mental deficient.
The bust of Nefertiti is authentic, it depicts her as a beautiful Caucasian woman. The skull has been classified as Caucasian. You have no evidence on the contrary, merely concocting bs opinion. Go look in the mirror and cry.
ITS NOT EUROPEAN DNA IN HER ITS AFRICAN DNA IN EUROPEANS THATS WHY IT MATCHES EUROPEANS HAVE CHOSEN TO STILL OUR GLORY SINCE WE WERE CAPTIVE AND SOLD INTO SLAVERY ITS EASY TO TAKE AN AFRICAN SHAPED SKULL AND CREATE A BEACK NOSE WITH THIN NOSTRILS BECAUSE NO HUMAN HAS A NOSE BONE TO PREVENT THE SILICON FROM MAKING A WIDE VS A THIN NOSE THE SAME WITH LIPS YOU CAN CREATE THIN WHITE LIPS VS FULL AFRICAN LIPS CAUCASIANS SHOULD BE ASHAMED AT THEIR DRESSED UP LIES AGAINST AFRICANS THROUGHOUT HISTORY
@phoenician7 that infamous bust is garbage.there are depictions of Nefertiti carved in stone next to her husband Amenhotep 4......she's clearly not caucasoid....btw,the museum in germany where that bust is,will not give it up to be studied.also,caucosoids native to Kemet?lmbao..................
she looks mixed oo she kinda reminds me of this singer "the floacist"
celticmoon88 2 weeks ago
The whole world should support Ron Paul!!!
williamliu93 1 month ago
@williamliu93 I agree but that's irrelevant in this video lol
Hibria619 2 weeks ago
This video is wrong because she was proven NOT the mother of king tut.
shesaterror 1 month ago
@shesaterror The JAMA report links her as Tuts mother. If her name is Nefertiti or not, it has no bearing that this mummy, KV35, is still the mother of Tut.
phoenician7 1 month ago
Okay, this is an example of how people use pseudoscience to advance ridiculous racist agendas. First of all, Nefertiti was depicted in her own time as a woman of dark complexion, and the features of her bust are consistent with other depictions of her. Second of all, "Indo-European" refers to LANGUAGE. It only refers to race if you're a Nazi. Third of all, don't get me started on your idiot translation and notion of the word "fair."
Good job letting science down.
oaklandcami 2 months ago
@oaklandcami 1. Indo-European speakers *are* Indo-European people. 2. The anthropologists classed the skull as "Indo European" thats not negroid no matter how much you spin. Her bust is consistent with other realistic statues, not the conventional Amarna art form that suddenly sprung up and died when Akhenaten died. Egyptians didn't describe themselves as black, nor depict themselves as they did Nubians. watch?v=Ru4mBNKiII4&feature=channel_video_title
Insults do nothing to negate the facts.
phoenician7 2 months ago 7
@oaklandcami indo-European is often referred as group of languages, but it is allso reffered as group fo etnicities.
UndeadCrabstick 1 month ago
@oaklandcami "how people use pseudoscience to advance ridiculous racist agendas" .. . You should know about THAT. Thats precisely what you negrocentricists attempt to do all the time, .. . oh no, wait a minuite, . . THATS "TRUTH!!!!" .
spyroxxm 1 month ago
@oaklandcami I love people like you that make people like me, feel smart. Thank you for your services. =)
Hibria619 2 weeks ago
Monica Bellucci looks a lot like Nefertiti's bust. Google&compare them!
egyptforever50000 2 months ago
@egyptforever50000 Oh yes! I have seen her pics, and have been told that by a few other people who have noticed the same. She resembles Nefertiti to a "T".
phoenician7 2 months ago
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@egyptforever50000 I did. Where do you see a resemblance? While both women are certainly attractive, Nefertiti's skin and eyes are noticeably darker than Monica's. She has a lower forehead than her, too. Nefertiti's nose is broader (at the nasal area) and her ears are more pronounced. Her neck is longer, too. Monica has an attenuated chin; Nefertiti doesn't. Oh, did I forget to mention Nefertiti has epicanthic folds around her eyes?
FrancisGalton 4 weeks ago
@FrancisGalton What you stated is the physical description of the Mediterranean phenotype. Nefertiti's heavy eye lids however should not be confused with epicanthic folds.
phoenician7 3 weeks ago
@phoenician7 No offense, but you need to bone up on your physical anthropology. Heavy eyelids are usually the result of fatigue and cause puffiness, making the person look older, which is absent from the bust of Nefertiti. Epicanthic folds cover the medial canthus of the eye and are caused by a lower-based nose bridge, which Nefertiti clearly had. By the way, DNA tests prove the ancient Egyptians were NOT "Mediterraneans" (i.e. Southern Europeans) but in fact Northeast African Caucasians.
FrancisGalton 2 weeks ago
@FrancisGalton Look at her eyes, she has no epicanthic folds, if she did, the kohl would have been lost at the corners. She is marked with heavy lids, how the artist intended. The anthropologists stated that her skull was indicative, specifically of an Indo-European. Nor did I state they were "Southern Europeans" - a lame attempt on your part, but have always maintained they were NA Mediterranean Caucasoids - closely related, and cluster with European and Eurasian peoples.
phoenician7 1 week ago
Nefertiti was NOT the mother of Tutankhamun. Most probably, his mother was one of Akhenaton's sisters.
This mummy IS the mother of Tutankhamun, but she is NOT Nefertiti.
filida 3 months ago
@filida The mummy was once claimed to be *supposed* mummy of Nefertiti by Egyptologist Fletcher - I made that clear in the video. Whoever the *mummy* is, it is the mother of Tut and dna has confirmed it.
phoenician7 3 months ago
@phoenician7
Studies done where-----site source kindly?
KIYA?
molarmama5 2 months ago
@molarmama5 Source cited @ 1:29.
phoenician7 2 months ago
@filida KYIA?
molarmama5 2 months ago
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Well, you refuters certainly do have superior choices in musical accompaniment to those afrocentricists ( with their typical lousy rap and hip hop selections ) and THAT alone gives you credability over them with me !
Skulldini 3 months ago
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Skulldini 3 months ago
i love this song
BellaSilvery 4 months ago
*exist
phoenician7 4 months ago
This "Younger lady" isn't Nefertiti. They haven’t found the body of Nefertiti. The "Younger lady's" DNA results did come back positive as King Tut's mom though. At first they thought it was Kiya, Akhenaten’s other wife. But now they don't know who the "Younger lady" is. She must have been of importance though cause she was buried next to Queen Tiye. (King Tut's Grandmother and Akhenaten’s mother)
mspumba24 4 months ago
@mspumba24 As an unprovable notion; it could be Kiya, if she made the very powerful Tiye happy by birthing an heir. Dr. Hawass put forth the idea that Tiye could have been a tough mother-in-law to Nefertiti. Just an idea.
molarmama5 2 months ago
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Caucasions are not the only race to have fair skin. The Asiatic Phonecians of what is now lebanon and the Assyrians also had light skin. "White" does not equal European, and European doesn't="white". In fact if you would care to look at images of native Sicilians and Maltese, who are considered European peoples, they have skin that is "GASP!!' not pale ghost white like the vikings and Celts, but fair olive to brown skin!!
lutzdify 4 months ago
Caucasions are not the only race to have fair skin. The Asiatic Phonecians of what is now lebanon and the Assyrians also had light skin. "White" does not equal European. In fact if you would care to look at images of native Sicilians and Maltese, who are considered European peoples, they have skin that is "GASP!!' not pale ghost white like the vikings and Celts, but fair olive to brown skin!!
lutzdify 4 months ago
@lutzdify Yes, I know, and I too am of Mediterranean descent.
phoenician7 4 months ago
@lutzdify Lol, I think phoenician7 *just may* understand that concept lutzdify- have you seen how many videos he has put out? Fewer people on Youtube know more about race!
andy7666 4 months ago 4
The true descendants of Ancient Egyptians are the Copts!
eva03arm 4 months ago 13
@eva03arm True ! And sad true...:(
powstaniecpolski 2 months ago
A good example ... for whites.. and blacks are nilotic verses bantu and armenian vs. indian... Strong gentic (phenotypes does not imply strong genetic culture types)... different perspective. We are ALL DIFFRENT SHADES OF AFRICAN. ...Period. The Egyptians were not the first great whites, or the next great blacks... they were great Egyptians of hamitic and semetic stock. Just Great Egyptians of their own customs, culture and genetics. peace
kingSL3000 4 months ago
Thus, (early and Semetic and Japhatic mixtures latter) more than not, thus cycling in process. Please black and white as defined by American definitions of culture, the one stamp label does not apply to Egyptians. We are disrespecting them to claim lineage so flippingly.
kingSL3000 4 months ago
The best way to conceptually think of the Egyptian scenario is to think in cycling circles over very long periods of time. The "white" racial and ethnic definition as well as the"black" racial and ethnic definition both missed the mark of a egyptian. DNA supports such structure. The Egyptian contains genetic dispositions of both races/ethnicities, as both are have filtered through and from the Egyptian structure which is primarily Hamatic and Semetic mixtures.
kingSL3000 4 months ago
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Idiots who keep subdividing clearly have their own agenda. The Human Genome Project determined that 99.9% of the human genetic complement is the same in everyone, regardless of "RACE." Furthermore, Race is used as "Modern Day" social construct, not a scientific classification...
MainStOrchestra 4 months ago
@MainStOrchestra “The 99.9 percent number is pure nonsense,” Wigler’s group sampled DNA from 20 people from around the world. They detected 76 major differences among the people, differences known as copy number polymorphisms. This means that some sections of genetic code are repeated, but the numbers of repetitions vary among people. This “could explain why people are different” … said Scherer, whose team reached similar findings to those of the Cold Spring Harbor group.
phoenician7 4 months ago
Nice muzik in the vid it made it that more believable. Im not going to argue about the Egyptian's skin tone in the middle of the damn dessert. I just wanted everyone to Marinate on this next statement. Blacks are labeled negroid and this term is derived from the word negro meaning black, but whites are labeled caucasoid and this term pertains to them originating from the Caucus Mountains. Anything wrong with that? Dont be so FUCKING DUMB. We are all part of the "Human Race."
MainStOrchestra 4 months ago
@MainStOrchestra It's "Caucasus" and the term Caucasoid has nothing to do with "Caucasus". Its a type of humans. Do you think Negroid came from a country called Negria?
All anthropologists agree that the criteria of race are physical characteristics. The tests of racial distinction are the morphological and metrical variations of such bodily characters as hair, skin, nose, eyes, stature, and differences in shape and proportions of the head, the trunk, and the limbs.
phoenician7 4 months ago
@phoenician7 Do you think Negroid came from a country called Negria? nope which is my whole argument and the contradiction in question that your missing where do they (Negroids) come from? It makes no sense to classify one group by their geographical originations & physical characteristics then 1 group only by their physical characteristics...... But if it makes sense to you and your willing to except that BS Great your an idiot and a follower... lol
MainStOrchestra 4 months ago
@phoenician7 If your willing to except the assumption not Fact that Negroids come strictly from sub-Saharan Africa or Africa in General lol why would we not call them Afrikanoid?? I know, makes no sense. Because essentialy scientist would then have to call blacks in America Negroid which would completely make sense and justify the term Negroid. Word Play is extremely important and as a supervisor or boss would tell you pay close attention to detail...
MainStOrchestra 4 months ago
@phoenician7 your statement about anthropologists is clearly incorrect according to the definitions of the following words and their associations. Keep in mind that the terms Mongol, "Caucasus," and Negro have been around for yrs. Yet only one is a color while the other 2 referrence specificgeographical regions. Thus it makes nosense to call ppl of Africa Negroid instead of Afrikanoid. You may think thats not a big deal but theres a reason for everything. So if thats incorrect then what else is?
MainStOrchestra 4 months ago
@phoenician7 Its like the image of Jesus Christians worship today. What is the purpose of these contradictions. So A bronze skinned Jesus with hair of wool was able to hide amongst "white fair skinned" ppl in Egypt??? Dont 4 get this video above is supposedly proof the Egyptians were "FAIR/WHITE" skinnned...Scientist do their best to coincide with the bible lol...Tho you tried your best, I as usual was able to point out the holes in everyones story.I know Ijust fuxed your head up lol Hit d books
MainStOrchestra 4 months ago
@MainStOrchestra "his HEAD and his HAIRS were WHITE LIKE WOOL."
It's describing the COLOR >> NOT << texture. And his head, in opposition to his hair was white. Doesn't describe a negro does it. His feet like FINE BRASS. Leave it to a deceiver such as yourself to insert "bronze" in a place it doesn't edist. Egyptians depicted Levantine populations as Caucasoids.
lol you fuxed up.
phoenician7 4 months ago
@phoenician7 O and hell no I dont think Jesus was black nor white because thats a modern term used by Governments to confuse ppl. Their only colors and have nothing to do with anything really. Jesus was Probably Egyptian or an Arabian type not sure but he sounded like a cool dude lol and he def had some melanin traveling in and living in the dessert. Anyone know why Christians strive to be Christ like while Jesus wasn't a Christian and can anyone tell me where he dissappeared to for some yrs?
MainStOrchestra 4 months ago
@MainStOrchestra There's No Human Race, its the Human Species and have different races
OliTooler 4 months ago
@MainStOrchestra Science dude, science - race exists, even if you don't want it to.. Also, we are a part of the Human "species" not "Human race".
andy7666 4 months ago
@andy7666 correct Race does exist however theres something completely incorrect about how "MODERN" science flip flops, adds BS, contradicts, and switches stories merely for convenience. If a Race of Aliens invaded today, whether they were all grey or came in many varieties of colors, You and Everyone one else would simply say a "RACE" of Aliens has invaded.... You may want to reread my earlier statement and you will see what I mean.. Nothing scientific about the term Negroid
MainStOrchestra 4 months ago
@MainStOrchestra lol what do you know? The three main racial classifications work JUST FINE for the FBI and anthropologists. This is your way to skirt around the fact that Egyptians are labeled as Caucasoid by the Social Sciences.
phoenician7 4 months ago
@andy7666 Since your backing "Science" lets try again.The "Scientific" Term or classification of Negroid is derived from the spanish word Negro for black. Nothing to do with where the Negroid ppl came from no mountain no continent no geogrpahical origination mentioned nothing scientific. However, "Science" specifically tells us the Caucasoid originated from the Caucus mountains. lol You cant realy be missing the picture here.
MainStOrchestra 4 months ago
@andy7666 We have Mongoloid & Caucasoid which have clear geographical originations Caucus Mountains and Mongolia or Asia can clearly be associated with these 2. Where n the hell do Negroids come from? lol I've never heard of any place called Negro there Negril Jamaica or the Niger river and Nigeria in Africa where Nigger comes from but im missing where Negroids come from? Anyone?? A little Help Here?
MainStOrchestra 4 months ago
@MainStOrchestra There is no place called "Caucus Mountains" and Caucasians do not "originate" from there; and hypocritically, on the flip side you then make statements that run contradictory to your own argument i.e. " It makes no sense to classify one group by their geographical originations & physical characteristics"
Its fun watching you argue with yourself. All we have to do is wait for you to implode.
phoenician7 4 months ago
Rigvedic astronomical references start with 4300BC which are verified by western astronomers.I have given those details
Nobody can approximate planetary combinations in later date.
Do you know that?
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
@Saraswathiputra Sorry, but the information you provided us with can’t be considered enough in order to make such claims. The Armenian theory of Indo-European homeland has all the serious support in comparative linguistics, archaeology and genetic engineering…at least take a look at my featured video.. world’s earliest attestations of all the symbols typical of Indo-Europeans are found on Neolithic Petroglyphs all over Armenian Highland.
eva03arm 5 months ago
@Saraswathiputra It seems like you disregard everything existing around the world, or you are just not aware of all that...before sticking to something, you'd better make a survey and know more about the rest of the world...ok I can understand your patriotism, but if it doesn't hurt the truth. Like Aristotle says "Plato is dear to me, but the truth is still dearer".
eva03arm 5 months ago
@Saraswathiputra You say that they found the motif of peacock in Mitanni, and it means it came from India... just the other day a friend of mine was asking me why peacock is so peculiar to Armenian culture, in Armenian folk tales, in paintings...etc.. I don't mind that there can be similarities in Aryan cultures but it does not prove anything of what you say... you speak of the deity Mitra, but you have no notion of the Armenian sun deity of Mihr.
eva03arm 5 months ago
@Saraswathiputra By Prof. Flinders Petrie Queen Tii or Thiy is surmised to have been of Mitannian-Armenian origin (see Budge, iv, 96-98, as to her being " Mesopotamian ") ; and Prof. Petrie, like Mr. Breasted, lias inferred that she brought with her the cult of which her son became the devotee.
The interesting thing here is not even if Queen Tiy was from Mitanni or not, but that the father of Egyptology Flinders Petrie identifies Mitannian with Armenian.
eva03arm 5 months ago
I clearly said the Menes was from ancient India who only started Egyptian civilization Dont confuse with predynastic Egypt.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
Your blue eye details are little foolish.My mother already had that.
You simply dont know anything.
You people still believing that you can fool people by your ignorance!
Aryans are origin in AryaVartha which is north India.
We have in India very very ancient details on Aryans.
You are so much pathetic!
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
@Saraswathiputra Your mother, apparenty received it from an Aryan invasion since all blue eyed people have a single common ancestor and there is only one place where blue eyes originates, and its not India.
"All blue-eyed people can be traced back to one ancestor who lived 10,000 years ago near the Black Sea"
dailymail.c o.u k/sciencetech/article-511473/All-blue-eyed-people-traced-ancestor-lived-10-000-years-ago-near-Black-Sea.html#ixzz1a1JNLYn1
phoenician7 5 months ago
Rigveda confirm what you say?
Good joke!
Give those verses.I like to show your bull shit in the open fora.
You cant fool the people.
We have more details with us.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
@Saraswathiputra I've already provided the video that debunks your claim. You attack Manilius, yet reference Arrian, neither lived at the time of Egypt's1st dynasty so you pick and choose. The Naqada period right before dynasty1 indicates Sumerian Egyptian relation, nothing with India. I have been rather polite and respectful towards you, allowing you to post your opinion for months on my videos, yet when confronted, you hit back with aggressive attitude laced with profanities.
phoenician7 5 months ago
So,you dont know anything on ancient Indian reference.Again,what happened to your Invasion theory.You are trying to twist the details.
Is Marcus Manilus so knowledged than a reference exist 2300 years ago.
Already,Greek reference is there to state that ancient Egyptian migrated from Indus.I have already given that.
Who is selective to prove the points.
Again,you claim that Egyptian are near to you is simply bull shit counting your little progress comparing to Egyptian.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
Second is drowned city of Dwaraka of Krishna in Gulf of Cambay.These are more reliable archaeology.
They give very concrete evidences on Vedic culture and antiquity.
Where comes your foolish steppes details on Aryans which was last century approximation.
In Rigveda very clearly given those family details of Aryans who forced outward India by the King Sudas after conquering them.
Why you have not studied those details?
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
The modern archaeology discovery of Dried Saraswathi river exactly as in Rigveda whose details already I sent to you.
The river dried in 1900BC as per scientific isotopic text , in Rigveda many incidents elaborately given like ten kings war or Dasarajna on the mighty currents of Saraswathi river with it full flow.This pushed Rigvedic age atleast 6000BC or above.That minimum time only Saraswathi river was big as told in Rigveda.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
WHY?
He even conclude the Menes Aryan Origin from Indian references only though he termed that time according to false AIT theory.
Your contention extremely untenable with available modern details.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
@Saraswathiputra Indians don't possess blue eyes, which originated in the Black Sea region near Europe. Think about your caste system and why there are light skinned Indians and dark Dravidian types.
phoenician7 5 months ago
But he uses everything from Indian references and detail elaborately not anything Sumerian.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
Waddell though based his arguments in Sumerian origin due to false belief of Aryan Invasion theory.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
@Saraswathiputra So you pick and choose what you wan't to accept. I see.
phoenician7 5 months ago
The Greek wise man Apollonious who traveled most widely in all known ancient world proclaimed in Egyptian soil as follows.
"We owe our culture to Egypt but Egypt owes it to India".
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
@Saraswathiputra Can you provide the evidence of Indian artifacts being discovered in Egypts predynastic? I have never come across such.
phoenician7 5 months ago
Here is reference from Greeks who visited India 2300 years ago.At that time Egypt was under their control
"The appearance of the inhabitants is also not very different in India and Ethiopia: the southern Indians are rather more like Ethiopians as they are black to look on, and their hair is black; only they are not so snub-nosed or woolly-haired as the Ethiopians; the northern Indians are most like the Egyptians physically." -- Arrian (Indica 6.9)
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
@Saraswathiputra Arrian and Strabo agree that the Egyptians resembled northern Indians who are usually straight-haired and occasionally light-skinned as southern Europeans rather than the darker Dravidian types of southern India. Marcus Manilius states Egypt is" nearer to us and its moderate climate imparts a medium tone." Therefore comparing them to Mediterranean peoples because they're located "nearer to us" (i.e. southern Europe).
phoenician7 5 months ago
Not only waddell but ancient Indian text such as RaghuVamsa confirm the migration of Menes aka Asa Manja out of India with enmity with his father Sagara.
You should not try to fool others simply to push what do you want on your history.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
@Saraswathiputra Why does the Rig Veda confirm what I say?
/watch?v=uhvKp7QwSIo
phoenician7 5 months ago
There are other details.
The testimony of Eusebius and Philostratus. In the seventh century, St. Isidore made a summary in his Encyclopedia of knowledge derived from ancient Greek and Latin authors, many of whose works have now disappeared. Regarding 'Ethiopians' he says in his Etymologiarium (IX.2.128): “They came in ancient times from the River Indus, established themselves in Egypt between the Nile and the sea, towards the south, in the equatorial regions.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
@ phoenician7
What a humbug!
Is I give you only Waddell not any other modern complete genetic references.Is it?
Genetic study completely nullified your details like Aryan Invasion theory most authentically which is very recent.
Do you talk out of context or myself!!
You should not spread lies here quoting outdated details.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
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"DNA analysis of people in India clearly shows that some of our ancestors migrated from places like Southern Russia and parts of Ukraine"
I really surprise to see the extent of lie by the phoenician7.
I have sent complete details of genetic study from all western experts conducted in India with very latest.
All genetic study shows that Aryan Origin only in India.
Not only that recent study conducted by foreign experts also now put R1a origin in North India.
These things are wantonly omitted!!
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
phoenician7,if you have guts, could you tell me where myth is there in my comments.
Simply,you people still believe fool the world
But,that is not been the gentle men idea.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
@Saraswathiputra 1.
There is no reason for insults, I haven't insulted you. I read your emails, you are basing your information mainly off L.A. Waddells books - I have several of them, but you are taking the information out of context, applying it to actual Indians when Waddell says no such thing. In Egyptian Civilization It's Sumerian Origin & Real Chronology, Waddell states the following:
phoenician7 5 months ago
@Saraswathiputra 2.
pg173- "1. That civilization did not first arise in Egypt, but arose amongst the Sumerians... of thefair long-headed, broad-browed and blue-or grey-eyed Aryan race; and of the same type as the classic Greeks, whos heroes and heroines are described as tall, fair and golden haired and blue- or "glaucous" grey-eyed, and who are represented in their sculptures as broad-browed...
6... Egypt appears to have taken no part in the diffusion of Civilization to India.
phoenician7 5 months ago
@ eva03arm
I will send many details on Aryans directly to you and all are very recent discoveries.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
Based on this Burchard Brentjes argued that Indo-Aryans were settled in the Near East much before 1600 B.C.E.With all the trading relations between various parts of India and the Near East, dating as far back as 4000 BCE with the find of cotton in Dhuwelia and carnelian bead in Mesopotamia in the third millennium BCE, the migration of Indo-Aryans from ancient India is not a fantasy tale.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
In fact there are many arguments in support of. Archaeologists have not found Central Asian, Eastern European or Caucasian culture in the Mittani kingdom. At the time same time they found the peacock motif -- something which could have come from India.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
There are several reasons, but to be brief, I shall only give three: 1. the deities Indra,Mitra, Varun.a, and Nasatya are Indian deities and not Iranian ones, because in Iran Varun.a is unknown and Indra and Nasatya appear as demons; 2. the name Vasukhani makes sense in Sanskrit as a "mine of wealth" whereas in Iranian it means "good mine" which is much less likely; 3. satta, or sapta, for seven, rather than the Iranian word hapta, where the initial `s' has been changed to `h'
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
But is this language Indo-Iranian, Iranian or Indo-Aryan or to rephrase: did the Mittanis speak the PIE branch of India.? That matter was settled in 1960 by Paul Thime
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
It is not only the kings who had Sanskrit names; a large number of other Sanskrit names have been unearthed in the records from the area.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
A text by a Mitannian named Kikkuli uses words such as aika (eka, one), tera (tri, three), panza (panca, ¯ve), satta (sapta, seven), na (nava, nine), vartana (vartana, round). Another text has babru (babhru, brown), parita (palita, grey), and pinkara (pi _ ngala, red). Their chief festival was the celebration of visuva (solstice) very much like in India(As per clay tablet details).( If they are from India,how they celebrate the festival peculiar to India).
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
@ eva03arm
You yet to know lot.Dont deceive yourself.
Know more!
Else,I will send to you.
Read carefully and refute were my details are wrong.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
@Saraswathiputra I don't think so!
DNA analysis of people in India clearly shows that some of our ancestors migrated from places like Southern Russia and parts of Ukraine fairly recently (a few thousand years)...
indiafirsthand.c o m /2010/10/04/hinduism-in-india-originated-from-steppes/
phoenician7 5 months ago
White people make me laugh, you steal every where you go. Nefertiti was a black woman, it has already been proven.
Jessica35771 5 months ago
This is not the real bust of Nefertiti, it has already been proven by Swiss art historian Stierlin (A white man). Also, they did a special of this on Discovery channel and the reconstruction shows that this statue is in fact fake. Nefertiti was a black woman. You whites love to steal people's history but it's a known fact that this is NOT the bust of Nefertiti.
Jessica35771 5 months ago
The testimony of Eusebius and Philostratus. In the seventh century, St. Isidore made a summary in his Encyclopedia of knowledge derived from ancient Greek and Latin authors, many of whose works have now disappeared. Regarding 'Ethiopians' he says in his Etymologiarium (IX.2.128): “They came in ancient times from the River Indus, established themselves in Egypt between the Nile and the sea, towards the south, in the equatorial regions.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
@Saraswathiputra Ok I don't know much about the origins of Ethiopians, but I wouldn't mind if they came from the River Indus. In the same way I can bring examples of poetry like in the German poem devoted to St Anno it says that "Bavarians came from the magnificent Armenia", or the Anglo-Saxon chronicle that says that the Brits came from Armenia...etc.. one of the three theories of the Indo-European homeland is the Armenian Highland (Anatolia) and it is supported by a great number of scholars.
eva03arm 5 months ago
TheResilientAMAZIGH 6,what is problem with you in learning the truth.
Moron!
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
eva03arm ,dont confuse yourself and others.
Mittanis were Sanskrit speaking people from ancient India.It is proved now beyond doubt.
Those outdated Aryan Invasion theory already put into dust bin.
Aryans are native to AryaVartha of India, from there only they migrated to all places.
Saraswathiputra 5 months ago
@Saraswathiputra What is proved beyond doubt?? Mitanni was a Hurrian kingdom.
“Yet the Hurrians did not disappear from history. Away to the North in their Armenian homeland, they entrenched themselves and build up the kingdom of Urartu.”
* Jacquetta Hawkes, “The First Great Civilizations,” London, 1967
"The new kingdom of Urartu, which proved to be the stronghold of the Hurrian race."
M. Chahin, "The Kingdom of Armenia," London, 2001
eva03arm 5 months ago
@eva03arm Thats right eva, you're correct. "swraswathiputra" seems to be inventing a myth.
DNA analysis of people in India clearly shows that some of our ancestors migrated from places like Southern Russia and parts of Ukraine fairly recently (a few thousand years) ...
indiafirsthand.c o m/2010/10/04/hinduism-in-india-originated-from-steppes/
phoenician7 5 months ago
Queen Nefertiti of Egypt was a native of Mitanni. The Mittani Kingdom of Armenia was an off-shoot of the Hurrian kingdom. The Hurri and the Mittani peoples were the contemporaries the Hittites and the Hyksos, within whom they shared many cultural and political aspects. Today, all these aforementioned nations are considered to be, in varying degrees, proto-Armenians; that is modern day Armenians are direct descendants of the remnants of those ancient tribes.
eva03arm 5 months ago
@eva03arm Yes, that is what I have read as well - that Nefertiti was of Mitanni origin. As a side note, it is interesting to know that Amenhotep III and Thutmose IV also married Mitanni women.
phoenician7 5 months ago
@phoenician7 Exactly.... so don't you think that R1b of Tutankhamon can be explained by this? his father- Ekhnaton being the son of Gilu hepa - Mitani princess... and they say that Tutankhamon's ancestry goes back to Caucasus, but in the region of Caucasus it's only Armenians who have Indo-European origin and the dominant haplogroup of Armenians is R1b which is called Italic/Germanic/Hittite/Armenian.... so shouldn't we seek the truth in Egypt-Mitanni interrelations
eva03arm 5 months ago
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eva03arm 5 months ago
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@eva03arm I'm sorry Akhenaten's mother was Queen Thyi, both Gilu Hepa and Thyi were from Mitanni, but his mother was Thyi
eva03arm 5 months ago
@eva03arm what the fuck is wrong with you westerners what's this Hindu bla bla got to do with us Africro semetic just back off from our history and heritage can you live some things for us you have filled your museum with our heritage is not god enough what a bunch of thieves you are!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheResilientAMAZIGH 5 months ago
@TheResilientAMAZIGH No need to get irritated, there are all the credible facts that three generations of Egyptian queens were brides from the Kingdom of Mitanni, their companion country in the north! All the correspondence the Mitanni kings had with Egyptian pharaohs is recorded in Amarna tablets, like when King Tushratta was asking Akhenhaten for more gold and precious things for sending him his daughter Tadu Hepa (Nefertiti) and many other facts one can't neglect even if you don't like them
eva03arm 5 months ago
@eva03arm Armenian don't mix with Turks nor do they mix with ugly dark skinned north African not good enough for the superiority of the Hindu europien race
Armenian ingenuity used dark north Africans as slaves to built the pyramid as well,
mate please stick to your kinds the germanik tribes that much better for you kind
TheResilientAMAZIGH 5 months ago
@TheResilientAMAZIGH Armenians didn't mix with Turks because Armenians are Christians and have always struggled for their identity, besides turks are genociders occupying historical Armenians lands.. but it has nothing to do with this topic.. there's never been slavery in Armenia and we would never call anyone "ugly dark skinned north African".
Whoever Ancient Egyptians were, judging by their civilization, the Kings of Mitanni would consider them worthy of establishing family relations.
eva03arm 5 months ago
I wonder has anyone even considered that the fair of face phrase meant she was beautiful? And not because of her skin tone because if they wanted to refer to that(skin tone) they would have said fair of skin or at least added that in her description(who ever described her). I mean the fair of face phase could go either way, but as of now there isnt and wont be a clear answer until Zahi Hawass or whoever the new person is thats in charge allows some DNA testing.
chibi171 7 months ago
@chibi171 Did you pay attention to the video? Nefertiti was classified with an Indo-European skull, the logic of the skin color follows. No need to toss around unnecessary speculation - unless you're in denial.
news.yahoo.c o m /half-european-men-share-king-tuts-dna-175902521.h t m l
You're in luck, read what the article says about Nefertiti's relative, Tut ,it just came out 10 hrs ago.
phoenician7 7 months ago
@phoenician7 No not in denial just a skeptic since I have never seen any legit document stating she was Indo-European partly because her mummy has never been found to suggest such. As for the European men having Tuts DNA there was never a official report released by Hawass or anyone else for that matter who did the actual test stating he was European or had European ancestry. So until the people who handle and see these mummies on a daily basis give out answers I will be skeptical.link didnt wrk
chibi171 7 months ago
@chibi171 Anthropologists classified the skull believed to be Nefertiti (KV35) as Indo-European. I cited the source in the video.
Hawass in the past stated that "King Tut was not black" do you accept this - or tap dance around that too?
YT doesnt allow links. You have to C&P it and take out the spaces between c o m and h t m l.
If they're not Caucasian, what are they?
phoenician7 7 months ago
@phoenician7 But see they assume it to be her plus I want to say I think they finally did say it wasnt her but someone else awhile back. I dont take alot of what Hawass says to truth I respect his passion but he has done questionable things as well. Yes he has said they werent black or Arab but he never said white either. Also he claims there were no Hebrew/Israelite in Egypt but he hasnt produced any scientific evidence to back up his claims. Cont.
chibi171 7 months ago
@phoenician7 As for are they black well yes and no the Nubians pretty much founded Ancient Egypt and they have throughout Egyptian history been a known presence to rule/be slaves/allies and did trade with Egyptians, but mixture did occur with the hyksos(they ruled for a short period) and Libyans would have mixed with them but it was still predominantly African. Later you have Greeks/Romans/Arabs etc. mixing with them so in truth Egyptians would have mostly been mixed neither black ,white etc.
chibi171 7 months ago
@phoenician7 Nefertiti was a black woman. This bust isn't even the real bust of Nefertiti. Swiss art historian Henri Stierlin proved this. Discovery channel has also created a reconstruction of Nefertiti and she looks nothing like this fake Caucasian woman you all are trying to prove as Nefertiti. White people make me laugh. Haha ha she was a black woman and you hate it. In your dreams she can be white so keep on dreamin' suckerrrrr.
Jessica35771 5 months ago
@Jessica35771 "Nefertiti was a black woman"
Afrocentrics make me laugh. A "Swiss art historian" doesn't know Egyptian history. Steirlin didn't conduct any paint analysis, he's running his mouth for attention. The paint is dated to 3300years old. Now you explain how that is "fake" and tell me how many negroid skulls are classified as Indo-European.
" this fake Caucasian woman"
Thanks for admitting the 3300 year old bust is Caucasian.
phoenician7 5 months ago
@phoenician7 She has been proven to be black, just because he is swiss doesn't mean this his findings are incorrect. Whites are not fit to live in Africa, you would have been eaten alive by the sun. This bust is indeed a fake, the stone itself isn't over 3,300 years old. So by you proving the paint to be old doesn't really prove anything and even then the paintings were contaminated. This statue is a fake and you hate to admit that Nefertiti was indeed a black woman. White people make me laugh.
Jessica35771 5 months ago
@Jessica357711. "She has been proven to be black"
Then PROVE it! Instead, you are UNABLE to come up with any *ACTUAL* information that states this. Where is it? Instead, you are running your mouth. I presented a *SOURCE* as stated by an anthropologist who EXAMINED her skull indicating she belongs to the Indo European type. Until you can PROVIDE a SOURCE refuting this hands on examination, your opinion is bunk.
phoenician7 5 months ago
@phoenician7 She has been proven to be black, just because he is swiss doesn't mean this his findings are incorrect. Whites are not fit to live in Africa, you would have been eaten alive by the sun. This bust is indeed a fake, the stone itself isn't over 3,300 years old. So by you proving the paint to be old doesn't really prove anything and even then the paintings most likely are contaminated.It's fake and you hate to admit that Nefertiti was indeed a black woman. White people make me laugh.
Jessica35771 5 months ago
@Jessica35771 "just because he is swiss doesn't mean this his findings are incorrect."
His findings ARE incorrect. That's the point. And he was refuted AFTER he made his illogical statement. He never ran tests on the paint to confirm his claim and unless you can find an actual PAPER that REFUTES the dating of the paint, then you have no ground to stand on. She is described in Egyptian texts as Fair of Face.
huffingtonpost.c o m/2009/03/31/queen-nefertiti-bust-has-_n_181312.html
phoenician7 5 months ago
@Jessica35771 "This bust is indeed a fake, the stone itself isn't over 3,300 years old... contaminated."
Go on, provide a SOURCE and an actual QUOTE that makes this claim. Opinions ARENT facts.
"Whites are not fit to live in Africa"
That really says it all. Your racism and bias exposed. There are Whites living all over Africa, ESPECIALLY North Africa. Who the hell do you think established Johannesburg and Cape Town in South Africa? Get a clue.
phoenician7 5 months ago
@phoenician7 First of all this video is racist, and the whites living in africa are getting sun burned.
Jessica35771 5 months ago
@Jessica35771 The truth is "racist" to those that hate the truth. You have been unable to find a single statement disparaging to blacks in this video, nor have you been able to provide a single shred of *evidence* to back your projections. Why? It's because there are none. That's right.
Saying "Whites are not fit to live in Africa" is racist in and of itself and says it all, really. Only Whites can turn red (paintings of Egyptians depicted red) or tan (other Egyptians).
phoenician7 5 months ago
@phoenician7 Actually there are plenty of nubian tribes in africa who painted their skin red which is depicted in the egyptian paintings lol so you proved nothing. And the truth is racist to you because you hate the fact that white people couldn't live in Egypt because they couldn't take the sun. Also, there are plenty of blacks who have brown woodchuck colored skin which has reddish undertone to it so they were black and they wore nubian hair styles. They were black... face it.
Jessica35771 5 months ago
@Jessica35771 The Nubians -AS DEPICTED BY THE EGYPTIANS - were not depicted with painted skin, let alone red skin. Not only does the skin seperate Egyptians from Nubians, but the facial features and hair as well. The truth is racist, because you;re in denial of the fact that Egypt was a Caucasian civilization and still is.Tocharians? SW Americans? You ignored these - Whites who live(d) under the hot desert sun; negroes don't possess ruddy skin. Egyptians were/are Caucasian face it fool.
phoenician7 5 months ago
@Jessica35771 "Indigenous North Africans are genetically quite distinct from sub-Saharan Africans (1), and this difference is reflected in their lighter skin and European/Middle Eastern physical features."Science 6 April 2007:Vol. 316. no. 5821, pp. 50 - 53
And then I have at a minimum of 350 pages of genetic studies that prove it.
How unfortunate for you.
phoenician7 5 months ago
@Jessica35771 And if you don't think blacks avoid the sun then you're fooling yourself, they seek shade so much that some even wear sweaters during the summer! Get real and go visit a beach on holiday. See who is there and who is not there.
Blonde haired - blue eyed Tocharians lived in the desert for thousands of years (as did Egyptians an the current inhabitants of the American SW). It's best to read up on facts before making ignorant comments.
phoenician7 5 months ago
@phoenician7 The blacks who do that just don't want to get darker, those are the ignorant ones. So, by you saying that doesn't prove anything because we have natural protection against the sun and you don't so I don't believe in the BS that white people say about being in Africa. White people wish that Africa was their land, hahaha it really makes me laugh. The greatest history went on in Africa. LOL white people are unfit to live in Africa.
Jessica35771 5 months ago
@Jessica35771 You don't want to believe facts, you rather invent your own realities since truth stings you so much. Africa never was a "black mans land" as you ignorantly imply. Whites have natural protection, tanning is the result of being in the sun.. It has nothing to do about "wishing" little girl.
CAUCASIAN constituting, or characteristic of a race of humankind native to Europe, North Africa, and southwest Asia and classified according to physical features.
You're unfit to post.
phoenician7 5 months ago
@phoenician7 Dont get me wrong or think I am trolling since I like to watch these kind of vids and see how people come to a conclusion based on their research, but due to a lot of controversy on the Egyptian race I wont believe or take to heart everything I read. Basically I have to hear it from the horses mouth.
chibi171 7 months ago
@chibi171 LOL but then again you favorite Afrocentric videos with no questions asked. You have already made your mind up, you are tip toeing and tap dancing because you are in complete and total denial of statements made by experts who have dedicated their entire lives to the field, you rather, willingly, at face value, accept fallacious "black Egyptian" videos sidelined with racist remarks against Whites. I have seen enough from you.
phoenician7 7 months ago
@phoenician7 as for Afrocentric videos they do provide more documented evidence that I have been able to find(mind you not on Afrocentric sites) that pretty much say the same or similar things. These experts are usually also white as well so to hear it from them as well you cant call the Afrocentrics as well. But like I said I personally believe the first Egyptians were Africans and on down the line they became a mixed race/civilization. Take the US for example
chibi171 7 months ago
@chibi171 "I have to hear it from the horses mouth."
Zahi Hawass: "Tutankhamun was not black, and the portrayal of ancient Egyptian civilization as black has no element of truth to it"
How's that from the "horses mouth"!
phoenician7 7 months ago
@phoenician7 Also just to let you know EVERYONE has been tip toeing and tap dancing around the Egyptians racial backgrounds. I am merely saying they were mixed they were neither straight black or whatever else. But if you aske me both Afrocentric and Eurocentric vids do make racist remarks against the other. I have watched various vids and can easily send you the links. I am neither one of those but a realist anyone who assumes the AE to be straight black or white cant be credible at all
chibi171 7 months ago
@chibi171 But Nefertiti is another case, there's enough evidence in Amarna letters which come to prove that she was a Mitanni princess - Tadukhepa, her skull is no doubt Indo-European because the people of Mitanni were Indo-European, Northern part of Mitanni being part of the Armenian Highland which is considered to be the homeland of Indo-Europeans, and besides she was called the Lady of the North and South and Mitanni lies right North of Egypt !!!
eva03arm 5 months ago
Why would any European argue African history? Europeans have had a very nice royal wedding with the william and kate people and should be proud of their place in recent history!!!
As I see it any white original Europeans traveling to Africa probably did so because they were bored and it appears they never returned tto Europe therefore distancing themselves from being white.
So more than likely this is like someone from the midwest traveling to the bustling east coast and never returning.
Isopotion 7 months ago
@Isopotion Your rant doesn't make sense to the educated. Recent history? LOL what history did your Sub Saharan West African ilk *ever* produce? I find it ironic, and quite frankly, damn racist of you refering to others as "cave dwellers" such as you did under another video, when in reality, people of your ilk have never contributed anything to society in the past 10,000+ years.
watch?v=Ux_-2sdi0Qw&feature=channel_video_title
phoenician7 7 months ago
@Isopotion So a White person traveling to Africa distanced themselves from being white?
So a black person traveling to Europe distanced themselves from being black? Was the black bored?
Damn that's some screwed up Afrocentric logic.
phoenician7 7 months ago
Many scientists have declared Nefertiti Caucasoid.They studied her cheek bones lips and everything she leads to being Caucasoids
TheTruthAlwaysHurts1 8 months ago
Last time, i checked Egypt is in North East Africa not Europe.
sexyrose93 8 months ago
@sexyrose93 Africa is not a race but a geographic location. Last time I checked Johannesburg is in South Africa, yet it was established by Dutch Europeans.
phoenician7 8 months ago
@phoenician7 I wasn't referring Africa as a race. I said that Egypt is in North East Africa Not Europe. Egyptian people are African people not white!
sexyrose93 8 months ago
@sexyrose93 What is "African"? Africans come in many races, yet here you are refering to "Africa" - a geographic location as a race. "African" in a useless irrelevant geographical sense is a mis-use of geography and phylogeny.
Egyptians weren't negroids, refer to a genetically or anthropologically based scientific journal.
phoenician7 8 months ago
@phoenician7 OMG!!! Egyptian people are black African people. Egyptians are dark skinned people not pale white people from Europe! Egypt is in North East Africa. Why white people always be in denial. Egyptian people had African features NOT European. So today if you go ask a egyptian person tell them that their ancestors were white people they'll laugh at you're ass. Man you're so brainwashed by your own race.
sexyrose93 8 months ago
@sexyrose93 You foolish racist bigot. You have done nothing to support your bogus remarks. You're a blowhard pontificator spewing fabricated clueless opinion because it FEELS GOOD. I'm from that region and I'm laughing at your stupid ass. Now define what "African features" are!
phoenician7 7 months ago
@phoenician7 You called me racist because i beileve Queen Nefertiti is a black woman instead of a white woman. You can define what are African features on google or yahoo. Since you called me a stupid ass. You're ignorant and stupid for saying Nefertiti is a beautiful Caucasian woman, When it clearly shows she never was Caucasian. Nefertiti is a beautiful Black woman!!! You're being racist by saying " No wonder why blacks are such failures at everything" in your other comments.
sexyrose93 7 months ago
@sexyrose93 You're being racist because you're going off on White people when asked simple questions for evidence to support your bogus claim of Egypt being "black". You cant produce said evidence because you have none so instead resort to attacking White people out of frustration and desperation, vile racist loser. Hell you couldn't even define the term "African features" but instead tap dance and tell me to google it - it's because you don't have a damn clue. LMAO! Damn you're dumb.
phoenician7 7 months ago
@sexyrose93 " i beileve Queen Nefertiti is a black"
Beliefs are not facts, moron.
“In the case of the skull believed by a number of UK experts to be that of Nefertiti, this particular skull could be classified as Indo-European" (The Biomedical Scientist November 2003)
How are you going to refute it? Oh that's right, bigot, you're going to continue on with your racial hatred and lies against Whites.
You're so jealous.
phoenician7 7 months ago
@phoenician7 Okay, You just said beliefs are not facts right!!! Then you said in the case of the skull believed by number by Uk experts to be that of Nefertiti. Omg you're so dumb she's not Indo-European. Tell me what did i said to have hatred against whites. You're the one saying racist remarks against blacks. Why do i need to be jealous for?? When she's clearly a black woman. Now who's the moron!
sexyrose93 7 months ago
@sexyrose93 The experts didn't classify the skull as negroid. They classified the skull as Indo-European, meaning Caucasoid, dumbass. They didn't say "she was IndoEuropean" which wouldn't negate the fact that her ancestry probably was, based on their classification. You keep uttering that she is "clearly a black woman" yet you have been asked REPEATEDLY for the evidence. You failed to present it after 3 days of nonsense arguing it only implicates you you as the racist moron, racist moron.
phoenician7 7 months ago
@phoenician7 Living a life of denial and lies only causes you misery. The Egyptians were black. Deal with it, loser. Blacks didn't fail at nothing remember white people had hidden everything that blacks accomplished, but also stolen blacks history made it white. So white people can feel more superior over people of color. funny how white people get upset when you tell them the truth.
sexyrose93 7 months ago
@sexyrose93 With all you racist rant and rhetoric you STILL haven't produced one shred of evidence to support your bogus lies. Where is the evidence? What's that? You dont have any? Of course you dont - in all your racism and hatred against Whites and the lies you've vomited it's no surprise. The one living a life of lies and denial is you, Afroclown. You are a failure.
phoenician7 7 months ago
@phoenician7 Just because i said Queen Nefertiti wasn't white doesn't mean i have hatred against whites. Some of my close friends are white. I'm also mixed with Irish. You call me a racist yet you said i'm a Afroclown. I never said anything racist against you!!! Here's my evidence asshole! In fact the Queen Nefertiti's is a dark skinned female (black), known as ancient Nubian-Egyptian Queen of Nile, more powerful than her husband Akhenoton.
sexyrose93 7 months ago
@sexyrose93 Sure it does, because, based on your racist delusion you are lying about Caucasian people. I don't give a damn who your friends are or who you're mixed with since it has nothing to do with Egypt.
"Here's my evidence"
More like here is my lie, swallow it up because I have no supporting evidence to back this claim whatsoever.
phoenician7 7 months ago
@phoenician7 The Nubian are originally a dark skinned nation that which with time had been divided to Ethiopia, Sudan and Egypt with other neighboring smaller nations. This includes the Nubian Kings and Queens that had ruled ancient Egypt as an Egyptian Pharaohs, and that's where the origin of Queen Nefertiti come from, her royal roots goes as far as Ethiopian Royal Family. (Kemet world). I supported my evidence. Now try to prove me wrong. One day I hope you will have respect for black people.
sexyrose93 7 months ago
@sexyrose93 Nefertiti wasn't a damn Nubian. What the hell is wrong with you?! Now I am certain that I am dealing with a mental deficient.
The bust of Nefertiti is authentic, it depicts her as a beautiful Caucasian woman. The skull has been classified as Caucasian. You have no evidence on the contrary, merely concocting bs opinion. Go look in the mirror and cry.
phoenician7 7 months ago
ITS NOT EUROPEAN DNA IN HER ITS AFRICAN DNA IN EUROPEANS THATS WHY IT MATCHES EUROPEANS HAVE CHOSEN TO STILL OUR GLORY SINCE WE WERE CAPTIVE AND SOLD INTO SLAVERY ITS EASY TO TAKE AN AFRICAN SHAPED SKULL AND CREATE A BEACK NOSE WITH THIN NOSTRILS BECAUSE NO HUMAN HAS A NOSE BONE TO PREVENT THE SILICON FROM MAKING A WIDE VS A THIN NOSE THE SAME WITH LIPS YOU CAN CREATE THIN WHITE LIPS VS FULL AFRICAN LIPS CAUCASIANS SHOULD BE ASHAMED AT THEIR DRESSED UP LIES AGAINST AFRICANS THROUGHOUT HISTORY
twotimes87 9 months ago
@twotimes87 LOL @ your incompetence! No wonder why blacks are such failures... at everything.
Living a life of denial and lies only causes you misery.
The Egyptians were Caucasoids. Deal with it, loser.
phoenician7 9 months ago 2
@phoenician7 that infamous bust is garbage.there are depictions of Nefertiti carved in stone next to her husband Amenhotep 4......she's clearly not caucasoid....btw,the museum in germany where that bust is,will not give it up to be studied.also,caucosoids native to Kemet?lmbao..................
bxlunar 7 months ago