Of course, the capitalists will say that it is weak to turn to revolution, well, how much more proof do you need when the rich get so incredibly rich and th epoor have nothing. Well, it is win win under Mike's system that the poor and the rich would both have money.
@gopconservative78 I guess I didn't work hard enough to be in a position to crash the economy and talk Congress into giving me a $700 BILLION DOLLAR BAIL OUT. DO conservatives even look at the facts before you open your stupid mouths or do they just brush the facts under a rug and pray no one notices? yes, there are welfare leeches types, but WELFARE RECIPIENTS IN WHOLE didn't crash economy, never did and never well...do you know how little welfare people get?
@gopconservative78 again i'm glad you fully addresed the $700 dollar bailout to the TOP 0.1% facts...again like all conservatives you have attacked the wrong group of people...but hey what's new?
@gopconservative78 people like you will get screwed in the end, just wait and see you filthy Republican, I'm sure your daily Jesus lessons really did their charm on you.
@dalecampbl9 I only believe in the Church of the Almighty Dollar. He must be worshiped at all costs no matter how many people you screw over. Here is a little secret, there is no god
@dalecampbl9 With plenty of money, while I wait for my car being inspected I just made another $117,000...not bad for 20 minutes work.....so what did you do today leech?
@gopconservative78 You are most likely uneducated or lowly educated and probably living at home w/mommy and daddy as a 40 year old who reads many right wing hate books
Anyway, what can be said is if we are talking capitalism, capitalism there are many forms of capitalism. i think what Michael Moore is arguing is a more 'ethical capitalism'. Because as Bush said, people will always want the freedom to choose will always win, money will always win.
It isn't capitalism that he is worth 200 million, it is grassroots support that buys the dvds and books that gets him the money. But I sure think that the money he has should be shared out with those that put him there.
Moore does not tell it how it really is. People made a choice to borrow money off their house not because it was a bank but because they needed to pay off their short term debt..the type of debt his father would have shunned. He is comparing apples and oranges.
Had Jesus been half that fat, the cross would have had to be made out of iron, not wood.
Why superficial? You should learn to celebrate your diversity! At least here he took off his stupid baseball cap. This is what happens when you're raised by nuns.
Michael Moore is like a modern day Jesus. He tells the weak what they want to hear. The United States, with all its corruption, is STILL the country every wants to emigrate to, the fact that base salary ensures a full stomach is a good thing.
There is no capitalism in America. It's corporatism which means privatized profits for the richest Americans and socialized losses for everyone but those richest Americans. Now we are also pushing toward globalism, so we even have incredibly wealthy non-Americans in on the scam.
First of all, i'm English and i bet i know about my own country then you do, and you guys are in debt to China, only around a thirteenth of your debt is to China, because you live beyond your means and so you have to borrow, whether this is because of the entitlement programs, or tax cuts to the rich. I personally believe it's because your government is inefficient and hugely corrupt but you can't prove that. Learn to read before you make bullshit comments
@toberses11 then why are we in debt to china you stupid big mouth mother fucker,im sick and tierd of you asshole's that know shit about your own country.Its sad that most of you idiot's are blinded by your ignorance.
@toberses11 .lol what a patheitc comment.You know nothing about the topic,just stay out.True capatlism and corrupt capatlism?lol oyu beling to the mouth breathing crowd.oh and the top 1% equal 65% of the total wealth.
capitalism is evil because its message is evil.it encourages you to screw others when u have the opportunity.even doctors in this system act like there are just in it to make money. i am tired of those stories of how somebody got rich and it worked great for them...well most people don't get rich in this system
rich people that create wealth and rich people that destroy wealth are radically different rich people. Fiver per cent of rich people are evil just like all other groups. I love good rich people. I hate evil rich people like Alan Greenspan, Benjamin Bernanke, Lloyd Blankfein, and Bernie Madoff. Evil rich people and good rich people are radically different animals. The finance crowd are generally evil, doing harm.
Ha ha these greedy old politicians are not going to live long enough to eat all that money that their starving other people for..morons on a POWERTRIP!!
Sorry Mr. Moore, I am 22 and I think that our "Democratic" System is all about dry old greedy savage ignorant and unaware politicians and I DONT want to get involved in an y of that because its all a TOTAL joke, and the government is totally screwing us all up the a** ...O! I don't believe in the word "president" either..more like puppet!!!
P.S. YES Mr. News Reporter, we want a revolution in this country..what a Zoo!
@dgutuber all agreed man, but you got to be careful with revolution. let's check history and lets find one revolution that resulted in welfare and concord. sadly not one. revolution creates vacuum at the top that's easily filled with people so greedy and power loving who really never care for us, simple pawns. intelectuals never react on time and come to lead. right now, maybe one thing we can do is boycot. peaceful process of rejection. we got to remember MLK's or Gandhi's success.
there wil be more people like michael moore in america,wich concern with the people who work hard n at the end they got nothing,just working hard to put someone ass on top pyramid.
@k9kmc to attack teachers that get paid 50,000 a year and pay very little in their pension (you probably don't know what this is based on your comment). just keep blaming it on the GOP. Who funded the war in iraq while the democrats controlled congress? you probably understand a pyramid scheme just as well as moore does...
I find it strange that the liberals in here that praise Moore and claim they don't like "Fascism" were okay with the bailout of General Motors. Then they contradict themselves and whine about the bank bailouts.
Capitalism is a love story for Michael Moore he's made how much engaging in the capitalism he continually knocks? He also has caused more problems than he solved in Flint, Mi. Q: How much of what Moore preaches does he practice? A: very little to none at all. According to the book "Do as I say, Not as I do."
@MrOphachew What exactly would you have Michael do in Flint? Knock down the doors of closed factories and put workers back to work with his own money? Should he take his money and open soup kitchens for hungry people? What have you done to fix America? sit and complain on youtube?
@Tones4me1--Dud he's an leftie extremists If this was 1958 Michael Moore would not be making movies and writing books. He'd be lucky to stand on a street corner handing out pamphlets. Moore doesn't even reside in freakin Flint. That hypocrit takes an anti-corporation stand then becomes a corporation in and of himself. And yes that would be a start.
@MrOphachew What an ass you are. Would you prefer that Moore do what you are doing? Sit quietly & take one up the ass from the big boys? Do you feel like one of the boys because you are a well behaved droid who buys products from other countries & then point the finger at the one guy who stands up & at LEAST points out the problem. Who said Moore can do anything more than what he is doing to change things. VOTE with your wallet. So pull up your pants and join the revolt or lay down & take it.
@Tones4me1 -Look you ignorant, moron. The problems with the unions they bankrupted gm with their outragious and reduculous demands. They haven't contributed anything to production since the sixties. Michael Moore hasn't pointed out anything other encourage people to bite the hand that feeds them every chance they get. I can't wait to see the movie "Shooting Michael Moore."
@MrOphachew You are the moron who is reliving the glory days of industry in the USA. It's dead, get it? The hand that feeds them sold their jobs to foreign companies. Prove me wrong. Tell me where to find big industry in America now? Steel? Cars? Computer manufacturing? Right...gone. Oh wait, I forgot we have Starbucks, go now and apply for a job there but if you are over age 30 they won't hire you. God Bless what is left of America.
@Tones4me1 --OK I will. Check out NAFTA and the lefties sailing the country down the drain. Check out the ole Fanny and sally mistake made by a democratically controlled congress. The government ain't gonna save us. They came up with the before mentioned Sorry dud but you can check out "Shooting Michael Moore" right here on youtube 'shooting' as in filming, moron. Sara Palin? hell check out Dick Morris, Michael Savage. Read "Michael Moore is a stupid White Guy."
@MrOphachew AND another thing...did you NOT learn a lesson from that big mouth Sarah Palin calling for the death of people she didn't like by drawing bullseyes on a map? Now she has lost what little support she once had because everyone knows that she is as crazy & uncivilized as the guy with the gun. And now, you are acting as crazy as her by calling for your imaginary movie "Shooting Michael Moore". & if something happens to him I will be keeping this and will hand it over immediately.
The truth is that we need a new system. capitalism, socialism, communism all amount to an oligarchy in the end. I think the problem is spiritual. Unless any system is run by people with some sort of true religious or humanistic belief that they truly hold to, then you will always have a lot of people who think it's ok th fuck their fellow man. This problem, like most, can not be solved at the same level and with the same thinking that created it. We need to transcend this way of thinking.
@heartfire451 Our problems stem from centralizing power - something our founders warned us against. An overly powerful central government and centralized banking have enabled the people at the top of the pyramid to rig the game. A decentralized power structure, like we had before the Civil War, where the states were in many ways as strong as the federal government, made it harder for the powerful few to take charge. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. We're losing our freedom.
Michael Moore always gets it half-right. The problem is, the US economy is like a drug addict. What Moore always advocates is giving the drug dealer more power. Instead of giving more power to the addict to get some rehab, it's always more of the same. The government constantly enables all of this greed with policies that push for more home loans for people who can't afford them and then they come off like they're the saviour.
In a way, greed used to be illegal. Charging of interest on loans was called usury and was illegal. And with a good reason.
Intrests require the echonomy to grow exponentially, and that require infinite growing demand of nature resources. When the nature resources passes their peaks, the outtake can not grow and the capitalist system as we know it will collapse.
"It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own neccessities but of their advantages."
Moore almost gets it, but the solution isn't more government. Government will only escalate the problem. Notice how the problem has gotten worse while the government has expanded over the past decade.
@MAJ061785 Goverments should be for their inhabitants what parents are for their kids. If parents are loose in their education on right and wrong you will teach the kid to take advantage for self gain. If parents are caring, just and strict kids will learn to be responsible and empathic. Man will, in most cases, learn only by his own mistakes. Governments and their inhabitants are much the same. Dont punish but explain, educate. Children and adults want to fit in but all needs to be taught how
@uberharald If you believe that then you believe we are stupid and need the elites to make decisions for us, which is tyranny. However, in a free republic the we set up the Gov to watch over our liberties and the Gov doesn't tell us what to do. Then the people run the government, instead of idea of tyranny that you hold to. You sound like Mussolini when he said, "It is the State which educates its citizens in civic virtue, gives them a consciousness of their mission, and welds them into unity."
@MAJ061785 Goverments should be for their inhabitants what parents are for their kids. If parents are loose in their education on right and wrong you will teach the kid to take advantage for self gain. If parents are caring, just and strict kids will learn to be responsible and empathic. Man will, in most cases, learn only by his own mistakes. Governments and their inhabitants are much the same. Dont punish but explain, educate. Children and adults want to fit in but all needs to be taught how
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yes the pyramid scheme.. Cut off the top, it would still hold strong. cut down the bottom and it will collapse. There is no rich without the poor and there are no poor without the rich! and of coarse the middle man will always get fucked!
I'm a 22 year old, formerly excited Obama supporter, who is this close to losing 'hope,' and becoming a cynic. Moore has his finger on the pulse. Anyone else think Charlie Rose interrupted him a bit too much?
moore is an absolute phony. anyone with a high school education can see, for instance, that his film should have been called 'corporatism....a love story'.
The problem is and has been Fascism the merger of government and corporations at the expence of everyone else.. NOT CAPITALISM.... CAPITALISM= FREEDOM
@allinlen Isn't the merger of corporations and government inevitable under capitalism, as long as capitalism is allowed to be itself? I mean, where else could it go? Regulation blah blah, but if capitalism is the foundation of an economic system, in order for it to be efficient it needs unlimited growth potential or it dies. Which means corruption is built into the future of that system. In fact, I think corruption is an inevitable part of any system by itself, so an amalgamation is necessary.
Capitalism > Corporatism. This is the only outcome for the lack of understanding of what runs the monetary system, and Reaganomics ( which was the start of what the out come you see today, 80-90% of the wealth owned by 10% of the people ((30 million people))
the real problem- is we're addicted and not only addicted to this system- we're defendant upon the entire system to provide us money to pay for our basics- unless you have huge bank accounts- most people according to stats have no more than 6 months of savings -you can't leave the system- and the stability of the system depends upon growth and growth is driven by the social logic constructed by the advertising industry to fuel consumerism which is driving the environmental degradation globally!!
@townsjim: I would also point out that it is one thing for him to disagree with another Catholic but it is another thing to disagree with the Pope. I'm not sure if you are aware of the doctrine of infallibility
So what Moore describes that existed 50 years ago was sort of "capitalism" that he liked, he claims that the evil fascist system we have now is capitalism as well? Does he not see that the system we have is messed up because of the government involvement. Pathetic. We have not had free market for at least 100 years, since income tax and FED.
@desroche85 I did watch it, and his other appearances. What I'm saying is that he ought not to call the present system capitalism if the admits that the capitalism people knew 100 years ago changed beyond recognition. Moore fails to see that it is not the failure of the free market but the government, yet he argues for more government, only "better". He misses the fundamental flaw in the present system completely.
Wahhh! I hate capitalism! I hate it so much I purchased this computer because it was of good quality and price, purchased this internet connection because of its competitive price, and watched this video hosted by an evil corporation! Down with capitalism!
I always love to listen to Michael. He is usually spot-on in all his estimations respecting the economy and the plight of the common man. Politicians should be required to take a course given by Michael. He is a modern day prophet of reality talk. Good post.
Wall Streeters are nothing new historically. History has seen people like them. They're like how the Huns must've been. Their value system is like that of the nomadic pillagers of the ancient times. They considered it a great masculine talent to be able to pillage and plunder effectively, without producing anything of real value themselves, and it was beneath them to bend down to toil and till the land. Those plunderers battened on other people's blood and before long formed an aristocray.
Charlie is the best host i've seen from US, because the guests can talk! He's not there with an opinion but with questions and 2 ears...... those who still want a shift in 2012..... come on, the last administration killed your brother, father, mother, sister etc. and ruind the economy
Why? well 600 billion dollars a year for a war that is staged, thats why....Peace over the lost men and women, they stood up and made their duty in a case of need, honor them! Blame they who made it happen! oh "they killed 3000 people".... they? who are they? YOU DON'T KNOW BECAUSE YOU DON'T QUESTION.... but well you think Palin should run the WH who thinks Africa is a country...FFS
sorry michael we do actually have a democratic economic system. every purchase is a democratic vote. the consumer has sovereignty. the businesses who dont please consumers go out of business and the ones who please them become successful
You confuse a legally rigged,reckless casino economy with a 'democratic' one.
Our economic 'vote' in the US is based on the same thing that our political consumption is based on:affordability,market access & false choice.
2.)Small businesses who don't please go out of business;McDonalds & Wall Mart will get Socialism,er,bailouts because too many people 'will lose jobs.'lol
Typical Americans you actually have some one fighting for you going up against the bad guys to try and spread and good message and you still hate on him, and you wonder why you don't have free health care.
Open your eyes, corporations run American and keep the poor, poor and the rich, rich.
You think they would get away with this in France? Hell no. The French know how to control there government not be controlled by fear.
Obama hits Bear Sterns with fraud charges after they pay out hundreds of billions of dollars in bonuses AGAIN and guess what Leahman Brothers and the competition is gone.
The stock mark is back up to 11g. The only sky that was falling was the people who lost their low wage jobs and homes.Where is the five years of double digit GNP to pay this debt off?The right is running to gold and guns the left is trying to placate both sides.We thought China would adapt to the West not corrupt our gov,
Rush Limbaugh is a fat oxycontin and viagra pill popping corporate shill blowhard, so what? Any points disputed there? No, just one big argumentum ad hominem. You fail, sir.
""Not your boyfriend"" Nice use of projection there.
""I was talking about socialism""
Actually no you weren't, you were talking about how fat Moore is. Hence the "there are very few socialists as fat as you"" bit, which was the only mention of socialism in your insipid comment.
@Rahab111222@Rahab111222 Michael Moore most likely from my 21 years in healthcare. Eats 5000 cal/day. Within ten years will have DM if he doesn't have it already not to mention OSA, MI, CVA and possible Pulm HTN. He will be on Oxygen 24 hr/day before he is 60. In CUBA he would be restricted to 2000 cals a day and would most likely lost 200 pound in one year. RAHAB it is nice to live in a country where you can speak out. People in the Middle east don't have this privilege. Have a nice day!
@Rahab111222 I am not a teabagger. I take it you went to college. My point is Moore would benefit from socialism but he's not going to do that. He lives a life of privilege. He is saving that for you young people that think he is on your side. I have no argument against H-care. There is a drastic cut in medicare reimbursement this year alone. Many doctors are speaking of retiring and there isn't anyone to replace them. Many people who would have become MDs are becoming Dentists.
Every country IN THE WORLD has a top 1% with more money than the other 95% combined. The 1% are either the rich businessmen and woman or politicians (in command economies like Moore is proposing). At least in America, the top 1% still create jobs. America is not for the faint of heart. If Moore wants Europe he should move there.
Someone once said that you cannot serve God and mammon. Mammon is the personification of MONEY. Wall street is the playground of greed where everyone serves the almighty dollar and they are ALL there to make money. I think that we all have a right to be wealthy doing it the honest way rather than screw some mum & dad investor to make a quick buck.
@RealTime88 No i'm not a moore fan. He's got some of it right - corporations are corrupting the government. Obviously true. And as long as the government has lots of power and money, that corruption will continue - no force on earth can stop it. Don't treat the symptom, treat the disease. Make the federal government very small - mostly just national defense (not world police). Get the government out of business as much as possible. Free market capitalism.
@megagagnon1 Not even towards Haiti which I hope we adopt one day but that's another story. Do you think it's wrong that big business should be regulated so they don't screw good people in America?
@RealTime88 Regulations have hurt good people more than anything else. Even if the regulations were written to protect the consumer against the corporation, they'll soon be subverted or amended to help the corporation. The problem is the corporations dictate the regulations - which are designed to hurt any potential competitors. So onerous regulations make it impossible for small businesses to compete, and less competition means the corporations can do what they please. The govt works for corps.
@megagagnon1 I remember Peter Schiff talking about that. In order to stop small businesses from being able to grow and compete against the major corps, they pay legislators to put in regulation to stop that competition.
@megagagnon1 Yeah, I'm so tired of: "We gotta take a break! We'll be right back!" "We're going to commercial, hold that thought!", "OK, you're running out of time, make it quick!","You got the final words, 10 sec". "We're out of time!"
Flint Michigan is a shithole....just like this fat waste
gopconservative78 2 weeks ago
@gopconservative78 oh shut up you loser
dalecampbl9 2 weeks ago
Of course, the capitalists will say that it is weak to turn to revolution, well, how much more proof do you need when the rich get so incredibly rich and th epoor have nothing. Well, it is win win under Mike's system that the poor and the rich would both have money.
RJWooller 4 weeks ago
i love Michael Moore, I respect Michael Moore greatly
dalecampbl9 1 month ago
@dalecampbl9 are one of those worthless 99% Leeches? You sound like it
gopconservative78 2 weeks ago
@gopconservative78 are you one of those 1% leeches that suck on the blood labor of the 99%?
dalecampbl9 2 weeks ago
@dalecampbl9 sure I am while you worthless slaves starve. Its not like you help society anyway your a leech plain and simple
gopconservative78 2 weeks ago
@gopconservative78 I guess I didn't work hard enough to be in a position to crash the economy and talk Congress into giving me a $700 BILLION DOLLAR BAIL OUT. DO conservatives even look at the facts before you open your stupid mouths or do they just brush the facts under a rug and pray no one notices? yes, there are welfare leeches types, but WELFARE RECIPIENTS IN WHOLE didn't crash economy, never did and never well...do you know how little welfare people get?
dalecampbl9 2 weeks ago
@dalecampbl9 Actually I do, and its TOO much, cut them off and let them starve....its time people like you actually learn a living.
gopconservative78 2 weeks ago
@gopconservative78 again i'm glad you fully addresed the $700 dollar bailout to the TOP 0.1% facts...again like all conservatives you have attacked the wrong group of people...but hey what's new?
dalecampbl9 2 weeks ago
@dalecampbl9 your not us.....we are the 1% and wealth is great! Greed is Good and people like you I enjoy watching you suffer.
gopconservative78 2 weeks ago
@gopconservative78 people like you will get screwed in the end, just wait and see you filthy Republican, I'm sure your daily Jesus lessons really did their charm on you.
dalecampbl9 2 weeks ago
@dalecampbl9 I only believe in the Church of the Almighty Dollar. He must be worshiped at all costs no matter how many people you screw over. Here is a little secret, there is no god
gopconservative78 2 weeks ago
@gopconservative78 at least you are an honest scoundrel
dalecampbl9 2 weeks ago
@dalecampbl9 With plenty of money, while I wait for my car being inspected I just made another $117,000...not bad for 20 minutes work.....so what did you do today leech?
gopconservative78 2 weeks ago
@gopconservative78 u are an idiot
dalecampbl9 2 weeks ago
@gopconservative78 You are most likely uneducated or lowly educated and probably living at home w/mommy and daddy as a 40 year old who reads many right wing hate books
dalecampbl9 2 weeks ago
Charlie Rose sucks. He only interviews safe conventional people that he can agree with on most issues.
shamelessfootfucker 2 months ago
Anyway, what can be said is if we are talking capitalism, capitalism there are many forms of capitalism. i think what Michael Moore is arguing is a more 'ethical capitalism'. Because as Bush said, people will always want the freedom to choose will always win, money will always win.
RJWooller 2 months ago
It isn't capitalism that he is worth 200 million, it is grassroots support that buys the dvds and books that gets him the money. But I sure think that the money he has should be shared out with those that put him there.
RJWooller 2 months ago
I thank you, Mr. Moore.
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if it wasn't for capitalism, moore wouldn't be worth 200 million
cbarrett34 4 months ago
@cbarrett34 then, thanx to capitalism, we should all be worth 200M?
gerri577 4 months ago
@cbarrett34 $50 million!!
RealTime88 3 months ago
@RealTime88 same thing
cbarrett34 3 months ago
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@cbarrett34 People like YOU are the exact reason he HATES to talk about his success!!!
RealTime88 3 months ago
moore's a big pig
cbarrett34 4 months ago
REM is awesome
themooddisorders 4 months ago
@themooddisorders I have to agree. One of the greatest bands of all time.
RealTime88 2 months ago
Moore know what movie to make next! I guarantee it
themooddisorders 4 months ago
Moore does not tell it how it really is. People made a choice to borrow money off their house not because it was a bank but because they needed to pay off their short term debt..the type of debt his father would have shunned. He is comparing apples and oranges.
nujac321 4 months ago
dude where have i seen that guy before?? the chubby one
MEdalFan26 4 months ago 23
@MEdalFan26 Family Guy - Peter Löwenbräu Griffin.. :oP
mshineshare 4 months ago
@mshineshare i lOVe the simpsuns.. " did i do thats???" hahalol
MEdalFan26 4 months ago 11
@MEdalFan26 "Who loves orange soda??" :D
Tangentbordsblues 1 month ago
Moore should make a film about elite mass media
Boomoutgothelights 5 months ago
@Boomoutgothelights I wonder if he will make one about Occupy.
RealTime88 3 months ago
Had Jesus been half that fat, the cross would have had to be made out of iron, not wood.
Why superficial? You should learn to celebrate your diversity! At least here he took off his stupid baseball cap. This is what happens when you're raised by nuns.
NixonisLord 5 months ago
Which answers the obesity question-how? I can't take someone seriously if he has a fuller figure than his wife. Sorry-just the way it is.
NixonisLord 5 months ago
@NixonisLord And the rest of us can't take superficial imbeciles like YOU seriously. Grow the fuck up.
slevisman 5 months ago
Michael Moore is like a modern day Jesus. He tells the weak what they want to hear. The United States, with all its corruption, is STILL the country every wants to emigrate to, the fact that base salary ensures a full stomach is a good thing.
Microglia1 6 months ago
There is no capitalism in America. It's corporatism which means privatized profits for the richest Americans and socialized losses for everyone but those richest Americans. Now we are also pushing toward globalism, so we even have incredibly wealthy non-Americans in on the scam.
fightforyourrights9 6 months ago
Great informative interview..thanks
iminnow123 6 months ago
First of all, i'm English and i bet i know about my own country then you do, and you guys are in debt to China, only around a thirteenth of your debt is to China, because you live beyond your means and so you have to borrow, whether this is because of the entitlement programs, or tax cuts to the rich. I personally believe it's because your government is inefficient and hugely corrupt but you can't prove that. Learn to read before you make bullshit comments
toberses11 8 months ago
Elite hates people.
danielsoyArg 8 months ago
also did you know that the top 50% make up 98% of the US's wealth, just saying
toberses11 8 months ago
@toberses11 then why are we in debt to china you stupid big mouth mother fucker,im sick and tierd of you asshole's that know shit about your own country.Its sad that most of you idiot's are blinded by your ignorance.
Mrjorgegarciaify 8 months ago
the world works on self interest, self interest is not necessarily bad, true capitalism is good, corrupt capitalism is bad, Moore is dumb,
toberses11 8 months ago
@toberses11 .lol what a patheitc comment.You know nothing about the topic,just stay out.True capatlism and corrupt capatlism?lol oyu beling to the mouth breathing crowd.oh and the top 1% equal 65% of the total wealth.
laudrup90 7 months ago
capitalism is evil because its message is evil.it encourages you to screw others when u have the opportunity.even doctors in this system act like there are just in it to make money. i am tired of those stories of how somebody got rich and it worked great for them...well most people don't get rich in this system
khwarinn2 8 months ago
rich people that create wealth and rich people that destroy wealth are radically different rich people. Fiver per cent of rich people are evil just like all other groups. I love good rich people. I hate evil rich people like Alan Greenspan, Benjamin Bernanke, Lloyd Blankfein, and Bernie Madoff. Evil rich people and good rich people are radically different animals. The finance crowd are generally evil, doing harm.
jackgoldman1 9 months ago
Michael Moore for President 2012.
JImmy4336 9 months ago
@JImmy4336 I'd vote for Michael Moore!! He's a genius!!
RealTime88 8 months ago
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vinhle72 9 months ago
Why the obesity, Michael? Why?
NixonisLord 9 months ago
@NixonisLord easy shows he's a real american
yajo891 9 months ago
I wish all stations had the class of public broadcasting.
Karemaker 10 months ago
@Karemaker And intelligence!!
RealTime88 8 months ago
Ha ha these greedy old politicians are not going to live long enough to eat all that money that their starving other people for..morons on a POWERTRIP!!
dgutuber 10 months ago
Sorry Mr. Moore, I am 22 and I think that our "Democratic" System is all about dry old greedy savage ignorant and unaware politicians and I DONT want to get involved in an y of that because its all a TOTAL joke, and the government is totally screwing us all up the a** ...O! I don't believe in the word "president" either..more like puppet!!!
P.S. YES Mr. News Reporter, we want a revolution in this country..what a Zoo!
dgutuber 10 months ago
@dgutuber all agreed man, but you got to be careful with revolution. let's check history and lets find one revolution that resulted in welfare and concord. sadly not one. revolution creates vacuum at the top that's easily filled with people so greedy and power loving who really never care for us, simple pawns. intelectuals never react on time and come to lead. right now, maybe one thing we can do is boycot. peaceful process of rejection. we got to remember MLK's or Gandhi's success.
BABAROGUE 10 months ago
there wil be more people like michael moore in america,wich concern with the people who work hard n at the end they got nothing,just working hard to put someone ass on top pyramid.
uprising876 10 months ago
GOP LIED AMERICA INTO IRAQ OIL WAR ! GOP NOW USING THEIR SECOND DEPRESSION TO ATTACK UNIONS !!!
k9kmc 11 months ago
@k9kmc to attack teachers that get paid 50,000 a year and pay very little in their pension (you probably don't know what this is based on your comment). just keep blaming it on the GOP. Who funded the war in iraq while the democrats controlled congress? you probably understand a pyramid scheme just as well as moore does...
Qboy316 11 months ago
One out of every eight homes in America is in either delinquency or foreclosure?
Shit.
TheSwearingBear 11 months ago
Michael should add the other problem with the pyramid. Everyone stabs each other in the back on the way up the pyramid.
Tones4me1 11 months ago
I LOVE Michael and the great work he does! A true American.
Tones4me1 11 months ago
I find it strange that the liberals in here that praise Moore and claim they don't like "Fascism" were okay with the bailout of General Motors. Then they contradict themselves and whine about the bank bailouts.
xxashyy 11 months ago
Capitalism is a love story for Michael Moore he's made how much engaging in the capitalism he continually knocks? He also has caused more problems than he solved in Flint, Mi. Q: How much of what Moore preaches does he practice? A: very little to none at all. According to the book "Do as I say, Not as I do."
MrOphachew 1 year ago
@MrOphachew What exactly would you have Michael do in Flint? Knock down the doors of closed factories and put workers back to work with his own money? Should he take his money and open soup kitchens for hungry people? What have you done to fix America? sit and complain on youtube?
Tones4me1 11 months ago
@Tones4me1--Dud he's an leftie extremists If this was 1958 Michael Moore would not be making movies and writing books. He'd be lucky to stand on a street corner handing out pamphlets. Moore doesn't even reside in freakin Flint. That hypocrit takes an anti-corporation stand then becomes a corporation in and of himself. And yes that would be a start.
MrOphachew 11 months ago
@MrOphachew What an ass you are. Would you prefer that Moore do what you are doing? Sit quietly & take one up the ass from the big boys? Do you feel like one of the boys because you are a well behaved droid who buys products from other countries & then point the finger at the one guy who stands up & at LEAST points out the problem. Who said Moore can do anything more than what he is doing to change things. VOTE with your wallet. So pull up your pants and join the revolt or lay down & take it.
Tones4me1 11 months ago
@Tones4me1 -Look you ignorant, moron. The problems with the unions they bankrupted gm with their outragious and reduculous demands. They haven't contributed anything to production since the sixties. Michael Moore hasn't pointed out anything other encourage people to bite the hand that feeds them every chance they get. I can't wait to see the movie "Shooting Michael Moore."
MrOphachew 11 months ago
@MrOphachew You are the moron who is reliving the glory days of industry in the USA. It's dead, get it? The hand that feeds them sold their jobs to foreign companies. Prove me wrong. Tell me where to find big industry in America now? Steel? Cars? Computer manufacturing? Right...gone. Oh wait, I forgot we have Starbucks, go now and apply for a job there but if you are over age 30 they won't hire you. God Bless what is left of America.
Tones4me1 11 months ago
@Tones4me1 --OK I will. Check out NAFTA and the lefties sailing the country down the drain. Check out the ole Fanny and sally mistake made by a democratically controlled congress. The government ain't gonna save us. They came up with the before mentioned Sorry dud but you can check out "Shooting Michael Moore" right here on youtube 'shooting' as in filming, moron. Sara Palin? hell check out Dick Morris, Michael Savage. Read "Michael Moore is a stupid White Guy."
MrOphachew 11 months ago
@MrOphachew AND another thing...did you NOT learn a lesson from that big mouth Sarah Palin calling for the death of people she didn't like by drawing bullseyes on a map? Now she has lost what little support she once had because everyone knows that she is as crazy & uncivilized as the guy with the gun. And now, you are acting as crazy as her by calling for your imaginary movie "Shooting Michael Moore". & if something happens to him I will be keeping this and will hand it over immediately.
Tones4me1 11 months ago
The truth is that we need a new system. capitalism, socialism, communism all amount to an oligarchy in the end. I think the problem is spiritual. Unless any system is run by people with some sort of true religious or humanistic belief that they truly hold to, then you will always have a lot of people who think it's ok th fuck their fellow man. This problem, like most, can not be solved at the same level and with the same thinking that created it. We need to transcend this way of thinking.
heartfire451 1 year ago
@heartfire451 Our problems stem from centralizing power - something our founders warned us against. An overly powerful central government and centralized banking have enabled the people at the top of the pyramid to rig the game. A decentralized power structure, like we had before the Civil War, where the states were in many ways as strong as the federal government, made it harder for the powerful few to take charge. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. We're losing our freedom.
megagagnon1 11 months ago
The rich are just leaches
olympic007 1 year ago
Michael Moore always gets it half-right. The problem is, the US economy is like a drug addict. What Moore always advocates is giving the drug dealer more power. Instead of giving more power to the addict to get some rehab, it's always more of the same. The government constantly enables all of this greed with policies that push for more home loans for people who can't afford them and then they come off like they're the saviour.
surfer53 1 year ago
it's happened, i am more than cynical about this faux change we got.
tomitstube 1 year ago
Those last few words by Moore are so depressing.
kepstein8888 1 year ago
@kepstein8888 I was more depressed to hear he is considering not making documentaries anymore. He is the best at this.
RealTime88 11 months ago
379 LIKES AND 18 DISLIKES...thats great news!
mariskal26 1 year ago
In a way, greed used to be illegal. Charging of interest on loans was called usury and was illegal. And with a good reason.
Intrests require the echonomy to grow exponentially, and that require infinite growing demand of nature resources. When the nature resources passes their peaks, the outtake can not grow and the capitalist system as we know it will collapse.
AngeCord 1 year ago
Oh, now he's riffing on national security...after he basically dodges Rose's question about the money he has made from his films.
No attacks on Sen Carl Levin of Michigan?
Moore is full.of.shit.
matthewelync 1 year ago
"It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves, not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own neccessities but of their advantages."
~Adam Smith
MAJ061785 1 year ago
Moore almost gets it, but the solution isn't more government. Government will only escalate the problem. Notice how the problem has gotten worse while the government has expanded over the past decade.
MAJ061785 1 year ago
@MAJ061785 Goverments should be for their inhabitants what parents are for their kids. If parents are loose in their education on right and wrong you will teach the kid to take advantage for self gain. If parents are caring, just and strict kids will learn to be responsible and empathic. Man will, in most cases, learn only by his own mistakes. Governments and their inhabitants are much the same. Dont punish but explain, educate. Children and adults want to fit in but all needs to be taught how
uberharald 1 year ago
@uberharald If you believe that then you believe we are stupid and need the elites to make decisions for us, which is tyranny. However, in a free republic the we set up the Gov to watch over our liberties and the Gov doesn't tell us what to do. Then the people run the government, instead of idea of tyranny that you hold to. You sound like Mussolini when he said, "It is the State which educates its citizens in civic virtue, gives them a consciousness of their mission, and welds them into unity."
MAJ061785 1 year ago
@MAJ061785 Goverments should be for their inhabitants what parents are for their kids. If parents are loose in their education on right and wrong you will teach the kid to take advantage for self gain. If parents are caring, just and strict kids will learn to be responsible and empathic. Man will, in most cases, learn only by his own mistakes. Governments and their inhabitants are much the same. Dont punish but explain, educate. Children and adults want to fit in but all needs to be taught how
uberharald 1 year ago
Michigan pride baby!
008fox 1 year ago
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onstageagain 1 year ago
Moore has to bite the bullet when he defends his support for Obama.
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faerydhhlo 1 year ago
the one percent will be leaving soon. with their cash. wow this country really really is screwed
brianpez 1 year ago
@brianpez yea probly to china
fattkattz55 1 year ago
the one percent will be leaving soon. with their cash
brianpez 1 year ago
I can't imagine a world without great and upon all, brave Michael Moore.
TheVedexus 1 year ago
yes the pyramid scheme.. Cut off the top, it would still hold strong. cut down the bottom and it will collapse. There is no rich without the poor and there are no poor without the rich! and of coarse the middle man will always get fucked!
tropical481 1 year ago
I'm a 22 year old, formerly excited Obama supporter, who is this close to losing 'hope,' and becoming a cynic. Moore has his finger on the pulse. Anyone else think Charlie Rose interrupted him a bit too much?
juvenal660 1 year ago
did he just say clinton was a republican?
ChillizOpen 1 year ago
The only pyramid scheme is Social Security.
TELEVISIONARCHIVES 1 year ago
this is incredibly ironic, Michael Moore making millions of dollars each year off of the system he bashes, good ole Capitalism
nxePremium 1 year ago
17 fat cats disliked this video
punkindhouse08 1 year ago 2
moore is an absolute phony. anyone with a high school education can see, for instance, that his film should have been called 'corporatism....a love story'.
finchy633 1 year ago
Millionare/billionare CEOs to us common folk:
"LET THEM EAT CAKE!"
mickeypamo 1 year ago
Millionare/billionare CEOs to us common folk:
LET THEM EAT CAKE
mickeypamo 1 year ago
-"where is our money?"
-"i dont know"
-hehe
loko5555 1 year ago
The problem is and has been Fascism the merger of government and corporations at the expence of everyone else.. NOT CAPITALISM.... CAPITALISM= FREEDOM
allinlen 1 year ago
@allinlen Isn't the merger of corporations and government inevitable under capitalism, as long as capitalism is allowed to be itself? I mean, where else could it go? Regulation blah blah, but if capitalism is the foundation of an economic system, in order for it to be efficient it needs unlimited growth potential or it dies. Which means corruption is built into the future of that system. In fact, I think corruption is an inevitable part of any system by itself, so an amalgamation is necessary.
owlcu 1 year ago
FDR is a hero of mine too. One of the best presidents we ever had!!!
RealTime88 1 year ago
if michael moore lost weight he would look like bill gates
EstevanL 1 year ago 2
Capitalism > Corporatism. This is the only outcome for the lack of understanding of what runs the monetary system, and Reaganomics ( which was the start of what the out come you see today, 80-90% of the wealth owned by 10% of the people ((30 million people))
maj1kninja07 1 year ago
great point! programs like this are a treasure.
rsoule2002 1 year ago
the real problem- is we're addicted and not only addicted to this system- we're defendant upon the entire system to provide us money to pay for our basics- unless you have huge bank accounts- most people according to stats have no more than 6 months of savings -you can't leave the system- and the stability of the system depends upon growth and growth is driven by the social logic constructed by the advertising industry to fuel consumerism which is driving the environmental degradation globally!!
CandianBear 1 year ago
One example of a corporate ripoff was when Microsoft was not broken up after being found guilty of being an ILLEGAL monopoly.
all028 1 year ago
Moore is Catholic. Yet, he dumps on Ronald Reagan who was close friends with the Pope.
all028 1 year ago
@all028 what so as a catholic, he is obliged to agree with every single other catholic?
townsjim 1 year ago
@townsjim: No, I was pointing out the irony in it.
all028 1 year ago
@all028 haha, erm... no
townsjim 1 year ago
@townsjim: I would also point out that it is one thing for him to disagree with another Catholic but it is another thing to disagree with the Pope. I'm not sure if you are aware of the doctrine of infallibility
all028 1 year ago
@all028 Maybe the Pope disagreed with Reagan too. The Catholic Church is pretty mixed politically.
RealTime88 8 months ago
So what Moore describes that existed 50 years ago was sort of "capitalism" that he liked, he claims that the evil fascist system we have now is capitalism as well? Does he not see that the system we have is messed up because of the government involvement. Pathetic. We have not had free market for at least 100 years, since income tax and FED.
rumco 1 year ago
@rumco
That is sort of the point he is making in the movie...or did you not even bother to watch it before commenting on it?
desroche85 1 year ago
@desroche85 I did watch it, and his other appearances. What I'm saying is that he ought not to call the present system capitalism if the admits that the capitalism people knew 100 years ago changed beyond recognition. Moore fails to see that it is not the failure of the free market but the government, yet he argues for more government, only "better". He misses the fundamental flaw in the present system completely.
rumco 1 year ago
Wahhh! I hate capitalism! I hate it so much I purchased this computer because it was of good quality and price, purchased this internet connection because of its competitive price, and watched this video hosted by an evil corporation! Down with capitalism!
TacoEqualsFtw 1 year ago
@TacoEqualsFtw
Maybe you should watch it before ranting. You sound like an idiot.
desroche85 1 year ago
@desroche85 Watch what? I hate capitalism bro.
TacoEqualsFtw 1 year ago
I always love to listen to Michael. He is usually spot-on in all his estimations respecting the economy and the plight of the common man. Politicians should be required to take a course given by Michael. He is a modern day prophet of reality talk. Good post.
TheTonylearner 1 year ago
@TheTonylearner He has good intentions but unfortunately, he does not understand economics.
rumco 1 year ago
Man has it been a fight for Micheal Moore to get the respect he deserved.
bodavidtv 1 year ago
Wall Streeters are nothing new historically. History has seen people like them. They're like how the Huns must've been. Their value system is like that of the nomadic pillagers of the ancient times. They considered it a great masculine talent to be able to pillage and plunder effectively, without producing anything of real value themselves, and it was beneath them to bend down to toil and till the land. Those plunderers battened on other people's blood and before long formed an aristocray.
tairanotomomori 1 year ago
You can show a right-winger the facts but you can't make him think.
SupremePenguinTone 1 year ago
hire the bank robbers! :O)
cebsny 1 year ago
Thank You.
printsay 1 year ago
Michael Moore thinks & speaks with clarity. No wonder moneyed interests paint him as a left-wing nutjob; he's unmasking their games!
SIMKINETICS 1 year ago
Charlie is the best host i've seen from US, because the guests can talk! He's not there with an opinion but with questions and 2 ears...... those who still want a shift in 2012..... come on, the last administration killed your brother, father, mother, sister etc. and ruind the economy
FrippeSwede 1 year ago
Why? well 600 billion dollars a year for a war that is staged, thats why....Peace over the lost men and women, they stood up and made their duty in a case of need, honor them! Blame they who made it happen! oh "they killed 3000 people".... they? who are they? YOU DON'T KNOW BECAUSE YOU DON'T QUESTION.... but well you think Palin should run the WH who thinks Africa is a country...FFS
FrippeSwede 1 year ago
get pelosi reed out and america will be ok obama bye!!!!!!!2012
thamerican1776 1 year ago
@thamerican1776 And let me ask you this conservative asshole, When Barack Obama wins re-election what will you do next fucker? WHAT NEXT?
RealTime88 6 months ago
@RealTime88 He'll probably dance a happy little jig since Obama is a fucking conservative trojan horse.
RichoRosai 5 months ago
@RichoRosai But the question what will WE do? Vote for Obama again or not vote? We have less of a choice this time around.
RealTime88 5 months ago
sorry michael we do actually have a democratic economic system. every purchase is a democratic vote. the consumer has sovereignty. the businesses who dont please consumers go out of business and the ones who please them become successful
mike8903 1 year ago
@mike8903
LOL
You confuse a legally rigged,reckless casino economy with a 'democratic' one.
Our economic 'vote' in the US is based on the same thing that our political consumption is based on:affordability,market access & false choice.
2.)Small businesses who don't please go out of business;McDonalds & Wall Mart will get Socialism,er,bailouts because too many people 'will lose jobs.'lol
thirdshift47 1 year ago
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Typical Americans you actually have some one fighting for you going up against the bad guys to try and spread and good message and you still hate on him, and you wonder why you don't have free health care.
Open your eyes, corporations run American and keep the poor, poor and the rich, rich.
You think they would get away with this in France? Hell no. The French know how to control there government not be controlled by fear.
TheReptilianElite 1 year ago
Obama hits Bear Sterns with fraud charges after they pay out hundreds of billions of dollars in bonuses AGAIN and guess what Leahman Brothers and the competition is gone.
The stock mark is back up to 11g. The only sky that was falling was the people who lost their low wage jobs and homes.Where is the five years of double digit GNP to pay this debt off?The right is running to gold and guns the left is trying to placate both sides.We thought China would adapt to the West not corrupt our gov,
leestevens 1 year ago
I am not a teabagger. I take it you went to college.
mmlrpp 1 year ago
@mmlrpp tea party thrw obama off
thamerican1776 1 year ago
Michael, there are very few Socialist as fat as you. You might want to rethink your choice of economics. It's nice to see you drinking water.
mmlrpp 1 year ago
@mmlrpp
Rush Limbaugh is a fat oxycontin and viagra pill popping corporate shill blowhard, so what? Any points disputed there? No, just one big argumentum ad hominem. You fail, sir.
Rahab111222 1 year ago
@Rahab111222 I was talking about socialism. Not your boyfriend.
mmlrpp 1 year ago
@mmlrpp
""Not your boyfriend"" Nice use of projection there.
""I was talking about socialism""
Actually no you weren't, you were talking about how fat Moore is. Hence the "there are very few socialists as fat as you"" bit, which was the only mention of socialism in your insipid comment.
Check yourself before you wreck yourself, moron.
Rahab111222 1 year ago
@Rahab111222@Rahab111222 Michael Moore most likely from my 21 years in healthcare. Eats 5000 cal/day. Within ten years will have DM if he doesn't have it already not to mention OSA, MI, CVA and possible Pulm HTN. He will be on Oxygen 24 hr/day before he is 60. In CUBA he would be restricted to 2000 cals a day and would most likely lost 200 pound in one year. RAHAB it is nice to live in a country where you can speak out. People in the Middle east don't have this privilege. Have a nice day!
mmlrpp 1 year ago
@mmlrpp
Okay, so your argument against health insurance reform is basically that Moore is fat and is going to die. Great, hooray for intellectual discourse!
Have fun with the rest of your tin foil hat wearing teabagger friends.
Rahab111222 1 year ago
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@Rahab111222 I am not a teabagger. I take it you went to college. My point is Moore would benefit from socialism but he's not going to do that. He lives a life of privilege. He is saving that for you young people that think he is on your side. I have no argument against H-care. There is a drastic cut in medicare reimbursement this year alone. Many doctors are speaking of retiring and there isn't anyone to replace them. Many people who would have become MDs are becoming Dentists.
mmlrpp 1 year ago
@Rahab111222 hell yea teaparty 2010-2012tea party is on 2010--- tea party 2012
thamerican1776 1 year ago
i think its kind of funny that he bashes the very system that has allowed him to make his movies. whatever, everyone is entitled to their own opinion
gatoradelank 1 year ago
Why hasn't someone assassinated Michael Moore yet?
DontBeAfraidToCare 1 year ago
Michael Moore = ignorant idiot.
Every country IN THE WORLD has a top 1% with more money than the other 95% combined. The 1% are either the rich businessmen and woman or politicians (in command economies like Moore is proposing). At least in America, the top 1% still create jobs. America is not for the faint of heart. If Moore wants Europe he should move there.
stick1to2the3issue 1 year ago
Someone once said that you cannot serve God and mammon. Mammon is the personification of MONEY. Wall street is the playground of greed where everyone serves the almighty dollar and they are ALL there to make money. I think that we all have a right to be wealthy doing it the honest way rather than screw some mum & dad investor to make a quick buck.
krazymindreader 1 year ago
This country has become a corporation. 1% people are as rich as rest of the 99% of the population. ----------- +1
toxicsmit 1 year ago
moore ....a true american
nolenzvolenz 1 year ago 5
charlie rose is great, unlike mainstream tv, his show is long enough to talk about things in depth, not just talking points and sound bites.
megagagnon1 1 year ago 54
@megagagnon1 I agree man they really do talk indepth in his shows..
NgoyTV 1 year ago
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rsoule2002 1 year ago
@megagagnon1 No commericals either. That is a plus too. Are you a Michael Moore fan?
RealTime88 1 year ago
@RealTime88 No i'm not a moore fan. He's got some of it right - corporations are corrupting the government. Obviously true. And as long as the government has lots of power and money, that corruption will continue - no force on earth can stop it. Don't treat the symptom, treat the disease. Make the federal government very small - mostly just national defense (not world police). Get the government out of business as much as possible. Free market capitalism.
megagagnon1 1 year ago
@megagagnon1 Not even towards Haiti which I hope we adopt one day but that's another story. Do you think it's wrong that big business should be regulated so they don't screw good people in America?
RealTime88 1 year ago
@RealTime88 Regulations have hurt good people more than anything else. Even if the regulations were written to protect the consumer against the corporation, they'll soon be subverted or amended to help the corporation. The problem is the corporations dictate the regulations - which are designed to hurt any potential competitors. So onerous regulations make it impossible for small businesses to compete, and less competition means the corporations can do what they please. The govt works for corps.
megagagnon1 1 year ago
@megagagnon1 In most businesses I agree with you but in the healthcare industry should the goal be about making money or the patients?
RealTime88 1 year ago
@megagagnon1 I remember Peter Schiff talking about that. In order to stop small businesses from being able to grow and compete against the major corps, they pay legislators to put in regulation to stop that competition.
DaHonestAbe 1 year ago
@megagagnon1 Yeah, I'm so tired of: "We gotta take a break! We'll be right back!" "We're going to commercial, hold that thought!", "OK, you're running out of time, make it quick!","You got the final words, 10 sec". "We're out of time!"
CaptEm1 1 year ago
@megagagnon1 yes and hes being much more fair handed in the way he interviews him
fairbae 1 year ago
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macgeek21 1 year ago
@macgeek21 Do you like PBS macgeek21? I like your screename by the way.
RealTime88 8 months ago