I respect this I really do, I myself have doen alot of body sparring and know how much stamina and good condition it takes! but... you cant call this a real fight on any level its about whos body can take the most punishment nothing more, drop your hands and pound away boys!!
People who don't practice that kind of combat don't know how much strength,stamina and power it takes. Maybe they don't punch in the face but not wearing gloves is a totaly different thing.
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These poor MMA pricks dont realise that its knock down rules so get over it in a real fight I would kick your leading leg/knee cap or shin with with my leading leg side kick and it would be over
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what a fucken load of horse shit - there is sero point in learning taking part in or watching a fighting based sport/system where you arent allowed strike to the head.
but thats coming from a person who thinks full contact MMA is weak. all that kicking and punching - its much easier to pull out an eye or to bite out someones throat. pull someones ear off and they suddenly forget they are in a fight, they are simply concerned with retrieving their ear.
It's a good thought, but practicers of the weak martial arts like karate/taekwondo generally have no idea how innefective they are and wouldn't listen to an outside style trying to help.
But he was a rarity, one out of a thousand fighters who learned to use TKD effectively; by dropping the vast array of innefective moves and learning some basic kick boxing defence / technique.
I also highly doubt that he ever dropped the vast majority of techniques learned in Kyokushin. Although you may never see him use a knife hand or a groin kick in the ring, the training under kyokushin gave him the basics necessary to be an effective kickboxer. Yes he trained in kickboxing, but one can see that the concepts learned from karate factored heavily in his style, even if you may not see the actual conception of them in practice.
Consider such fellows as Chuck liddel, Bas Rutten, and georges st. pierre. All of them trained in karate (Liddell=Koeikan, Rutten&Pierre=Kyokushin), and I highly doubt any of them would discount the training they received from the traditional schools.
As such, i don't believe that calling this Karate a "weak" martial art is a fair assessment.
(whew. that's a lot of info I wanted to get down there)
You must live in a small country town where the only martial arts around are muay thai and taekwondo, of course you feel superior.
Theres kyokushin dojo's all over Australia, Manly, West Ryde, Shell Harbour, Wolongong; please go in and have a training session with them (usually they have one free session, no commitment). Make sure you tell them you have combat experience, otherwise they might take it easy on you. After you do that, feel free to bash kyokushin.
lol don't be so quick to glorify it. Brazil and Thailand are poor countries - people who have gone there to train have frequently been disappointed. And there are "McDojos" willing to give you a BJJ black belt for $100 in Brazil too
The seidokaikan style derives from the style kyokushin. The seidokaikan broke out from kyokushin along with Hideyuki AShihara, bun when he did not get the no2 position in ashiharas new stylehe left after a few months to form his own style.
Technically they are close to identical, and the seidokaikan rules is taken from kyokushin with a few
that should be... the seidokaikan COMPETITION rules are taken from kyokushin with a few minor modifications
Seidokaikan has no ban against pro-fighting though, so many top kyokushin fighters has left kyokushin for seidokaikan to get away from the "amature competition only rule" that kyokushin used to have.
Ос, классная концовка, когда поясами обменялись
Nice end of fight , when karatekas exchanged with belts
oleghwang 4 weeks ago
黒帯の交換がかっこいいね
TheOtranto 9 months ago
Awesome fight. Most guys would crumble from those hits.
witri9 1 year ago
do they wear shin pads?
kehhvin 1 year ago
黑沢浩樹對角田信朗,黑沢咁嘅年紀係打得好好!!
pedrotong 1 year ago
This is cool and all, but watch other fights from Pride and lets talk.
BirdPlucker007 1 year ago
これほどの激烈な下段蹴りは、初めて見ました・・驚きです。 あの腰の座りと重みは想像以上の破壊力だと思えます。 この蹴りは、毎日山道を５０キロほど駆け巡れるくらいの体力と精神力がなければ、できない足腰と思えます。 好い試合ありがとうございました。
idaten55atagotengu 2 years ago
worst comments anywhere!!!!!!!!!!
StanhopeDoug 3 years ago
I respect this I really do, I myself have doen alot of body sparring and know how much stamina and good condition it takes! but... you cant call this a real fight on any level its about whos body can take the most punishment nothing more, drop your hands and pound away boys!!
gojuryudan 4 years ago
People who don't practice that kind of combat don't know how much strength,stamina and power it takes. Maybe they don't punch in the face but not wearing gloves is a totaly different thing.
goraisan 4 years ago 6
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These poor MMA pricks dont realise that its knock down rules so get over it in a real fight I would kick your leading leg/knee cap or shin with with my leading leg side kick and it would be over
tearawa1961 4 years ago
True it even says it in English Full Contact Rules in the start
mitchx69 3 years ago
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what a fucken load of horse shit - there is sero point in learning taking part in or watching a fighting based sport/system where you arent allowed strike to the head.
but thats coming from a person who thinks full contact MMA is weak. all that kicking and punching - its much easier to pull out an eye or to bite out someones throat. pull someones ear off and they suddenly forget they are in a fight, they are simply concerned with retrieving their ear.
johnty505 4 years ago
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Karate S*CKS a lot!!!
CARUSOandNICO 4 years ago
Karate is good ,,, Suck??? what
Sakai167 2 years ago
To: suzmot, i am sure you are talking about your weakness doumb ass, moron!
mddog 4 years ago
If the winner had taken 1 Muay Thai class to learn how to kick properly the fight would have been over sooner.
He was landing leg-kicks at will on the loser, but had horrible technique with no power so he just wore them.
suzmot 4 years ago
would be much better if they have you to coach these professional fighters
psykchosonik 4 years ago
It's a good thought, but practicers of the weak martial arts like karate/taekwondo generally have no idea how innefective they are and wouldn't listen to an outside style trying to help.
suzmot 4 years ago
And I suppose you are a proper authority on what is a "weak" martial art. I'm sure Andy hug would be quick to disagree with you.
blackrezin 4 years ago
...Andy Hug is dead.
He's not disagreeing with anyone.
suzmot 4 years ago
I know that. The point is that for a practitioner of a "weak" martial art, he sure did pretty well against kickboxers, wouldn't you say?
blackrezin 4 years ago 2
He did ok.
But he was a rarity, one out of a thousand fighters who learned to use TKD effectively; by dropping the vast array of innefective moves and learning some basic kick boxing defence / technique.
suzmot 4 years ago
You should check your information. Andy Hug was not TKD, he was Kyokushin, like these fellows in the video.
37 wins (22 by KO), 9 losses? I would say he did better than simply "ok." He excelled.
blackrezin 4 years ago 3
I also highly doubt that he ever dropped the vast majority of techniques learned in Kyokushin. Although you may never see him use a knife hand or a groin kick in the ring, the training under kyokushin gave him the basics necessary to be an effective kickboxer. Yes he trained in kickboxing, but one can see that the concepts learned from karate factored heavily in his style, even if you may not see the actual conception of them in practice.
blackrezin 4 years ago 2
Consider such fellows as Chuck liddel, Bas Rutten, and georges st. pierre. All of them trained in karate (Liddell=Koeikan, Rutten&Pierre=Kyokushin), and I highly doubt any of them would discount the training they received from the traditional schools.
As such, i don't believe that calling this Karate a "weak" martial art is a fair assessment.
(whew. that's a lot of info I wanted to get down there)
blackrezin 4 years ago 7
*applause* :)
bilzweet 2 years ago
suzmot:
You must live in a small country town where the only martial arts around are muay thai and taekwondo, of course you feel superior.
Theres kyokushin dojo's all over Australia, Manly, West Ryde, Shell Harbour, Wolongong; please go in and have a training session with them (usually they have one free session, no commitment). Make sure you tell them you have combat experience, otherwise they might take it easy on you. After you do that, feel free to bash kyokushin.
MononofuBlood 4 years ago 2
lol don't be so quick to glorify it. Brazil and Thailand are poor countries - people who have gone there to train have frequently been disappointed. And there are "McDojos" willing to give you a BJJ black belt for $100 in Brazil too
ambertch 4 years ago
$200 ;)
sk317r 2 years ago
Wow... very nice!!!
000WIL000 4 years ago
Wow that was pretty intense
bloodfestbogota 5 years ago
wheres the video of Kakuda knocking out Mavrick?
PaganHun 5 years ago
OUCH!!! Nice fight thou.. WOW!! they even swaped belts!!! Thats huge!
kankukoryu 5 years ago
What are the different between kyokushin and seido? Aren't both the same karate?
rohaimie 5 years ago
The seidokaikan style derives from the style kyokushin. The seidokaikan broke out from kyokushin along with Hideyuki AShihara, bun when he did not get the no2 position in ashiharas new stylehe left after a few months to form his own style.
Technically they are close to identical, and the seidokaikan rules is taken from kyokushin with a few
bushi22 5 years ago
cont...
that should be... the seidokaikan COMPETITION rules are taken from kyokushin with a few minor modifications
Seidokaikan has no ban against pro-fighting though, so many top kyokushin fighters has left kyokushin for seidokaikan to get away from the "amature competition only rule" that kyokushin used to have.
bushi22 5 years ago
Kurosawa beat that ass!
EveryOneRiseUp 5 years ago
since they both were fighting at a close range, wrestling techniques and sunmissions could have tipped the scale for either one.
bournelox2000 5 years ago
This is a special match, right? I was actually expecting a PRIDE Fight. Oh well!
Gauntlets 5 years ago
great respect between top fighters shows the true spirit of what mas oyama tried to cutivate in budo and kyokushin osu!!!!!
shinogi 5 years ago
Good fight, Pride has the best sportsmanship.
animeMMA 5 years ago
nice fight. Not mu
ch fancy footwork, but these guys are heavyeights after all :-)
seen it before, but didnt realize Soeno was the ref. Cool.
bushi22 5 years ago