Nice improv ,he even throws in there some of the tapping technique that many rock guitar players were trying to perfect at the time but was done before vaguely by Tal Farlow...
oh man... this is hilarious ....the jews (warner bros are really giving this little italian bologna eater the gears.) ....seriously, you can cut the mustard with i knife cause i cut it...poor catholic girl.
Frank was tapping in 1976...I think that predates the first Van Halen album...maybe Eddie was watching Mike Douglas and took that idea and ran with it...haha
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zappa ZAPPA a brilliant man,a stoner by admision a drinker too,my and my brothers fav,tv show was zappa on saturday night live the original cast uh remember that??now im not the only old scchooler that watches these vids,anyway he did a rendition of the dancing fool,,remember im a dancing foo,,oo,,oo,,l
@jealey83 he actively hated ALL drugs and from what I know he didn't appreciate their presence around at all. Except for coffee and cigarettes which he classified as `food'. He had an antidrug ad around I've only heard of.... it was in the 60's and it had Frank saying `Kids don't do drugs or you'll end up like your parents'
@stikhi Yep. In fact, one time he was about to be interviewed by Jim Ladd and when Ladd was about partake Frank pretty much told him that that wasn't allowed in his prescence.
@Sargebri I really think we should make Frank a Humanist Saint. He was the most individualistic person and a beacon for anyone who walks their own path and invites the world to follow. Anti-drugs in the 60's HAHAHAHAHAHA And making psych music to boot. Frank is an inspiration to be a better human and never be stuck up about it......
@stikhi I love Frank,but he smoked cigarettes and drank- news flash- they are drugs-...he was missing the boat when it came to his stand on drugs...it's o that he didn't do lsd or weed or whatever,but he had his own addictions and should have kept his mouth shut about being drug free-
@gumbyonacid He did say "Tobacco is my favorite vegetable." And he drank coffee, not alcohol. Coffee has a lot of health benefits. Coffee is considered a drug though. And he completely disputed the negative effects of tobacco, for whatever reason that may be. here's another quote from him about drugs: "drugs are not bad. drugs are a chemical compound. the problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole." I think that clears up how he felt.
@gumbyonacid i just re read the book and I must apologize- no mention of frank and alcohol- i remembered it wrong-........... i think making such a big deal put of frank being drug free is a bit silly anyway- yes it must have been tough to stay away from weed,lsd and the like back then,but frank's genius is what it is- he was a flawed human being just like us all- he had addictions just like us all- and i loved and still love frank zappa- regardless of which drugs he did or did not take-
@badazzpresidents23 He drank beers when he was younger but he wasn't a 'drinker' just a chainsmoking tobbaco & coffee addict. In the Real Frank Zappa book there is a story about when he was broke & working at a music store & living on beans, he ate a plate of beans, drank some Miller High Life & got such a stomach pain that he writhed over cursing the Miller High Life company. Pat Metheny's the guy who never drank a beer but he was addicted to Dr Peppers & midnight junk food from 7 Eleven.
@stikhi All the other original Mothers did drugs & actually wanted to kick Frank out of the band for not doing drugs & getting on their case. Zappa also hired & then fired Lowell George who was a heavy drug user. When he found out that some of the GTO's were shooting up heroin he put their album on indefinite hold. His later policy was that he would fire a musician if the guy was high on the job but the musician doing drugs in his private time was his business.
If there was a Sub-Normal Freakie sound that he could get out of his Guitar....Frank Played it and we Loved it.....Dont think there is a day that goes by that I dont listen to @ least one ZAPPA Masterpiece...
@72lights - you're absolutely right! i've been hooked on all things zappa for about 2 weeks now. if only they had the internet when i was a teenager, so i would've known about of all the great music he's made. i'm now a total zappa freak for life! thanks for the thing fish info- it's effin' great! take care!
this isnt pre van halen, he was playin out in la all the time then.thats where zappa lived ed should have looked to see who was behind the stage when he would turn around to tap.
People say the most stupid things thinking the world was invented just before they arrived. Here's a great one on the invention of jazz told to me by a guy from the Bronx "After the Civil War there were all these bass guitars left over so the black bothers pick them up and came up to N.Y. and played with Klezmer Bands...and that's how jazz was born!"
At this time in music history Van Halen had their fingers up the noses certainly not doing finger taps and when Dave Bunker was tapping Frank also had his finger up his nose....and when Turkish Saz players were taping there were like 3 books in all of Europe! It goes way back.....yes even further than Eddie and the Boys!
@AlFrisby vh were in clubs playing just miles from this studio.that same day,frank clearly ripped off an un signed eddy.frank lived just miles from eddy in 76.aint bullshittin me
Thumbs up to all zappa. always felt i should have payed 10 times more for my ticket after going to his shows. NO OTHER ROCK SHOW MADE FEEL THAT WAY. he was class and his musicians.
The Mike Douglas show introduced me to FZ, Patti Smith, Andy Kaufman and many others. And Mike never came off as arrogant. R.I.P. Mr. Douglas. American T.V. could use a few more gentlemen.
So far ahead of his time,and sadly enough gone to soon.Most of today's BabyBommer Rebounders,would need a super sophisticated way back machine to even come close to understainding.Maybe Generation X could build one.
I agree with the two top rated comments. To add a little: tapping like that and more, as far as I know, was popularized by Alan Holdsworth. It is a good discussion.
But getting back to FZ, even if one doesn't go for Frank's foulest (lyrics), there is still a lot of awesome music left. The guy was a genius and many who played with him say just that!
@patrickmichels - George Lynch has said in an interview that he and Eddie saw Harvey Mandel tap at the Starwood Club in the 1970s. From a March 2009 Metal Den George Lynch interview
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I can only imagine what the people in the audience are feeling listening to Frank Zappa play Black Napkins, they must have felt their minds being blown.
I saw the original broadcast as well. The Minneapolis progressive FM station KQRS had featured the entire record on it's album hour and I still recall the DJ recapping the tracks - "...Find Her Finer, Friendly Little Finger..." - hilarious. Yes FZ was actually quite popular in the 70's, which I doubt could happen today. I now look at this wonderful record as the transitional piece bridging the Apostrophe and later periods. I'm so grateful he made this appearance and we still have it around.
i remember watching this show in 76 i was in college and was walking pass the student union and i see my music idol performing " black napkins " i had the zoot allures album for about 2 weeks he was an awsome composer who will be compared to Bach or Beetoven one day
Zappa allways the trailblazer... this was so far ahead of it's time and currently light years ahead of it's time... most of us have not caught up with Zappa yet.
Frank was a musical genius. Zoot Allures is an awesome album. Get it if you like Frank Zappa. You most definitely won't be disappointed. One of my favs.
..and like who the f*** cares what I gotta say... but for me... all y'gotta do is look at this 'tube' ~ Frank aims the neck on the 'bend' and that's where it's at ... and you can see it all here ... all y'gotta do is rewind the tube... and it's kinda there -- and "that's the difference from the difference that's all the same" [rev.two-sheds]
Frank seemed relaxed and almost enjoying himself here, a nice thing to see. Mike Douglas also seems sincerely interested as well. This is really great.
@MrTexmojo frank was also the original shredder at this time.When I saw him for the first time at the felt forum a month before this,he was already a shredder.he was ,by most accounts,the best rock guitarist at this time.better then page and blackmore.
@MrTexmojo Man!! Mister Zappa is tapping from the beggining of the 70's ... get it!!!!! That's what creativity in the mind of a genius is...he invented and somebody called Van Halen developed a bit more...
Always loved this song - one of his best guitar solos... I saw Frank live back in the day, and he played like an alien - otherworldly, perhaps the best leads I've ever heard.
@musiquemath Frank Zappa was finger tapping in the 1960s n I think that is befor Steve Hacket, also Les Paul n Mary Ford did it in the late 1950s n early 1960s. Check out old vids of Les Paul n Mary Ford on youtube.
Is it just me or can anybody else detect the presence of the golden ratio in those gigantorific notes of his?Words havent been written yet that describe this mans playing ,so sometimes I must freestyle.
Wow, I used to watch Mike Douglas all the time and I don't remember this one. Frank couldn't of chosen a better song to pay on this show. Thanks for posting it.
@smithdsmit People like Zappa were doing tapping way before Van Halen did it. Eddie Van Halen has said that he learned it from seeing Genesis guitarist Steve Hackett do it
lazur1--thanks for driving me back to this site with your belated response to my comment. reminded me to throw some zappa lps on the turntable, and take off clapton's "from the cradle," a great blues record I discovered the other day.
"fuckthequeenok" : Funny thing is: The lead guitarist on "Highway 61 Revisited' is the late, great Mike Bloomfield, well known as a "guitar wanker', prone to turn up too loud & play too many notes at the dropof the hat . He just happend to do it better than anyone else. There's an old Bloomfield interview where he says that , before the session, Dylan warned him: "Don't play any of that BB King shit".
BerserkaViking: Holdsworth has such unusual(7 great) technique, & such large hands, that he sounds like he's 2-hand tapping, but he's only using his left hand on the fingerboard. Check some of his videos out to see what I mean.
No, he was known as a completely unique and virtuosic guitar player; he lived in a win-win world. Another poster noted that he is the only guitarist to have been given a cover to cover issue of Guitar Player. He had skill - he practised a lot - but he also had what few others had, something to play.
Hard to do, isn't it? I have my own favorites, and my basis is strictly enjoyment; I am not a guitarist. I like Roby Buchanon, Johnny "Guitar" Watson, Joe Satriani, even Lou Reed and Duane Allman; the difference is that, with the possible exception of Lou Reed, none have any where near the quantity of guitar pieces I like compared (odious as comparisons may be) with Zappa. I am unfamiliar with Serge Gainsbourg; I will make a point of checking him out.
Ah! Yes you did not specify guitarists; my mistake. I checked out Gainsbourg and wondered where the guitar was! Still, ten are hard to come by. Nabokov makes my list, Dylan, Lou Reed (like Zappa, more than a guitar player), John Gardner (Sunlight Dialogues, not the mystery writer or the political scientist), Andrew Wyath, Coppola,. It would be more correct to say that I appreciate these geniuses; there are many more of whom I know nothing beyond the superficial (e.g. Stephen Hawkins).
@urwclwg please explain why lou reed is a creative genius. im not arguing, just really want to know. it seems like hes a pretty normal rock guy... didnt john cale do all the creative work behind vu's first album? and bowie was heavily involved with reeds solo career
@DimebagsLeftToe John Cale dropped out before Rock and Roll Animal, the excellence of which revealed to me what aspects of the Velvet Underground I like the best - Lou's. I was as disappointed as anyone by some of his releases, but on most of them there was at least one gem. Transformer had Perfect Day, Walk On The Wild Side, Satellite Of Love, AND New York Telephone Conversation; Rock and Roll Animal had Intro to Sweet,and Rock 'n' Roll; Coney Island Baby had Nobody's Business, Street (more)
@DimebagsLeftToe (continued) Hassle had Street Hassle, but it was Magic and Loss that raised him the proverbial "heads and shoulders" above the rest. The videos are priceless artifacts of American music. Ecstasy.
Quality, someone said (Nabokov?), is the distributive aspect of quantity. In my opinion Louie Louie by the Kingsmen is the greatest rock and roll song of all time, yet I have nothing to say about the Kingsmen (I had the album).
You have my opinion; but you'll want one of your own.
show couldn't have been that stupid..they had Zappa as a guest and they let him play his guitar. You know they players in the house band were probably all fired up about playing with Frank.
you can tell zappa wasnt really into the band he was playing with in the beginning...totally uncomfortable....he still ripped it up like no one's business tho
In the '40s,Tal Farlow tapped (&slid) sparsely, usually to add notes to chords ending ballads. I heard Randy Resnick w/ 'Pure Food & Drug Act' do extensive modal tapping in '72..he'd obviously been tapping for years. Harvey Mandel joined 'PF&DA" in '73, & later took credit for inventing tapping, but he didn't tap a note 'til '74. In the '60s Roy Buchanon was hitting his pick on the fretboard for a similar, more percussive, effect.
MIke Douglas was a real gentleman, especially with the performing artists. He took chances having people like Zappa on, and it paid off for him. And his week of shows with Ian Anderson as cohost was classic.
such a difference with how talk shows were and are now... exception being Charlie Rose...Mike Douglas was really cool with Zappa no agenda just asking what the artist was about.
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Violet2r1 3 months ago
Zappa at it's very best!!!
micheloderso 4 months ago in playlist Zappa
Best ELECTRICAL guitarist ever. The only other one that made as big of an impact was Jimi. Oh Jimi, when will your guitar fuck my ears again?
badazzpresidents23 5 months ago
Nice improv ,he even throws in there some of the tapping technique that many rock guitar players were trying to perfect at the time but was done before vaguely by Tal Farlow...
carakenio 6 months ago
oh man... this is hilarious ....the jews (warner bros are really giving this little italian bologna eater the gears.) ....seriously, you can cut the mustard with i knife cause i cut it...poor catholic girl.
noodlesmealey 6 months ago in playlist Docyoumentalry
zoot allures is zut alors in french..... is oh,whatever. japan kanji letters? nazis?
human cloning
noodlesmealey 6 months ago in playlist Docyoumentalry
Frank was tapping in 1976...I think that predates the first Van Halen album...maybe Eddie was watching Mike Douglas and took that idea and ran with it...haha
Chromatype 6 months ago
Excellent.
duncanstpt 7 months ago
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Dfrankjazz 9 months ago
Outstanding !!! Should I say anything more ?
franklrobertsjr 9 months ago
zappa ZAPPA a brilliant man,a stoner by admision a drinker too,my and my brothers fav,tv show was zappa on saturday night live the original cast uh remember that??now im not the only old scchooler that watches these vids,anyway he did a rendition of the dancing fool,,remember im a dancing foo,,oo,,oo,,l
phatboy1967 9 months ago
@phatboy1967 He wasn't a stoner, by no admission at all. Far from it.
jealey83 9 months ago 2
@jealey83 he actively hated ALL drugs and from what I know he didn't appreciate their presence around at all. Except for coffee and cigarettes which he classified as `food'. He had an antidrug ad around I've only heard of.... it was in the 60's and it had Frank saying `Kids don't do drugs or you'll end up like your parents'
stikhi 9 months ago
@stikhi Yep. In fact, one time he was about to be interviewed by Jim Ladd and when Ladd was about partake Frank pretty much told him that that wasn't allowed in his prescence.
RIP Frank.
Sargebri 8 months ago 2
@Sargebri I really think we should make Frank a Humanist Saint. He was the most individualistic person and a beacon for anyone who walks their own path and invites the world to follow. Anti-drugs in the 60's HAHAHAHAHAHA And making psych music to boot. Frank is an inspiration to be a better human and never be stuck up about it......
stikhi 7 months ago 14
@stikhi I love Frank,but he smoked cigarettes and drank- news flash- they are drugs-...he was missing the boat when it came to his stand on drugs...it's o that he didn't do lsd or weed or whatever,but he had his own addictions and should have kept his mouth shut about being drug free-
gumbyonacid 5 months ago
@gumbyonacid He did say "Tobacco is my favorite vegetable." And he drank coffee, not alcohol. Coffee has a lot of health benefits. Coffee is considered a drug though. And he completely disputed the negative effects of tobacco, for whatever reason that may be. here's another quote from him about drugs: "drugs are not bad. drugs are a chemical compound. the problem comes in when people who take drugs treat them like a license to behave like an asshole." I think that clears up how he felt.
badazzpresidents23 5 months ago
@badazzpresidents23 Read the book being Frank- he most definitely drank alcohol- then again,i am burnt so maybe I forgot......
gumbyonacid 5 months ago
@gumbyonacid I want proof that he drank alcoholic beverages. Find it for me and I will believe you. Give me a link.
badazzpresidents23 5 months ago
@badazzpresidents23 fair enough my friend- I will find the book-
gumbyonacid 5 months ago
@gumbyonacid Okay thank you.
badazzpresidents23 5 months ago
@gumbyonacid i just re read the book and I must apologize- no mention of frank and alcohol- i remembered it wrong-........... i think making such a big deal put of frank being drug free is a bit silly anyway- yes it must have been tough to stay away from weed,lsd and the like back then,but frank's genius is what it is- he was a flawed human being just like us all- he had addictions just like us all- and i loved and still love frank zappa- regardless of which drugs he did or did not take-
gumbyonacid 5 months ago
@badazzpresidents23 He drank beers when he was younger but he wasn't a 'drinker' just a chainsmoking tobbaco & coffee addict. In the Real Frank Zappa book there is a story about when he was broke & working at a music store & living on beans, he ate a plate of beans, drank some Miller High Life & got such a stomach pain that he writhed over cursing the Miller High Life company. Pat Metheny's the guy who never drank a beer but he was addicted to Dr Peppers & midnight junk food from 7 Eleven.
metamorphosis67 4 months ago
@stikhi All the other original Mothers did drugs & actually wanted to kick Frank out of the band for not doing drugs & getting on their case. Zappa also hired & then fired Lowell George who was a heavy drug user. When he found out that some of the GTO's were shooting up heroin he put their album on indefinite hold. His later policy was that he would fire a musician if the guy was high on the job but the musician doing drugs in his private time was his business.
metamorphosis67 4 months ago
The king of noodling.....I wish we had this mater back.
xsamitt 10 months ago
@xsamitt i do, an it's really clear, i just got to download it, check out his thing fish, with ike willis as the evil prince
it's definitly a broadway sick funny futuristic piece of work i've ever heard check out drop-dead an breifcase boogie
an the proloage it's fuckin hilarious.it's on youtube, let me know how u liked it.
72lights 10 months ago
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BabiuaEloisia127 10 months ago
An entire generation thinks that Eddie Van Halen invented "tapping" on a guitar.
AdobePhsyko 10 months ago 8
@AdobePhsyko Well Zappa didn't either, really. Steve Hackett did.
dbvideoinc 2 months ago
@AdobePhsyko Jeff Beck claims to have a book from the 1940s (!) by Ben Webster that describes a number of tapping techniques
garmonbozia318 1 week ago
Good stuff. Thanks.
13loomisst 10 months ago
If there was a Sub-Normal Freakie sound that he could get out of his Guitar....Frank Played it and we Loved it.....Dont think there is a day that goes by that I dont listen to @ least one ZAPPA Masterpiece...
stockliskirep 10 months ago
THIS GUY IS A FREAKIN' GENIUS!!! ZAPPA IS GOD!!! THANKS FOR THIS!!!
WarGodIII 10 months ago
@WarGodIII ya wait till you here thing fish, it's fuckin hilarious, an the best broadway like stuff
you'll here, check it out on here youtube.
72lights 10 months ago
@72lights - you're absolutely right! i've been hooked on all things zappa for about 2 weeks now. if only they had the internet when i was a teenager, so i would've known about of all the great music he's made. i'm now a total zappa freak for life! thanks for the thing fish info- it's effin' great! take care!
WarGodIII 10 months ago
this isnt pre van halen, he was playin out in la all the time then.thats where zappa lived ed should have looked to see who was behind the stage when he would turn around to tap.
flyinmikerian 11 months ago
People say the most stupid things thinking the world was invented just before they arrived. Here's a great one on the invention of jazz told to me by a guy from the Bronx "After the Civil War there were all these bass guitars left over so the black bothers pick them up and came up to N.Y. and played with Klezmer Bands...and that's how jazz was born!"
AlFrisby 11 months ago
At this time in music history Van Halen had their fingers up the noses certainly not doing finger taps and when Dave Bunker was tapping Frank also had his finger up his nose....and when Turkish Saz players were taping there were like 3 books in all of Europe! It goes way back.....yes even further than Eddie and the Boys!
AlFrisby 11 months ago 2
@AlFrisby vh were in clubs playing just miles from this studio.that same day,frank clearly ripped off an un signed eddy.frank lived just miles from eddy in 76.aint bullshittin me
flyinmikerian 11 months ago
Thumbs up to all zappa. always felt i should have payed 10 times more for my ticket after going to his shows. NO OTHER ROCK SHOW MADE FEEL THAT WAY. he was class and his musicians.
psftrules 11 months ago
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FUCK ZAPPA
buckyew2 11 months ago
@buckyew2 FUCK YOU
MrLongisland70 11 months ago
l had this LP...and mom watched this show every day
now l know where my record went!
1mo4dro 1 year ago
dy-no-mite!
mloaks 1 year ago 2
Miss frank. radio is soo hard to listen to
psftrules 1 year ago
I GOT IT...........the tune he palys is black napkins
ninideparis 1 year ago
anyone knows what tune Fz plays ? or is it just an improvisation ?
ninideparis 1 year ago
The Mike Douglas show introduced me to FZ, Patti Smith, Andy Kaufman and many others. And Mike never came off as arrogant. R.I.P. Mr. Douglas. American T.V. could use a few more gentlemen.
orkam64 1 year ago
Zappa's an underrated guitarist and overrated in every other way. But here his playing is pretty weak.
TouchingYou 1 year ago
hundeds of years from now he'll be thought just like batovin bach
beerbellyE 1 year ago
Just pure melodic genius starting at 6:57!!!
curiousnomad 1 year ago
this is still jazz even if it has an electric guitar
tarantism 1 year ago
Thats it. I'm getting a fucking SG
pauljames00 1 year ago 2
So far ahead of his time,and sadly enough gone to soon.Most of today's BabyBommer Rebounders,would need a super sophisticated way back machine to even come close to understainding.Maybe Generation X could build one.
kandauelliot 1 year ago
I doubt anyone could make a Pignose amp sound better than this. Zappa is the best
52appaZ 1 year ago
One of the great guitarists.
jarmbru 1 year ago
Wow doesn't that track really take you back!
Ole Franks not one of the 50 greatest guitarist for nothing!!!
1957thack 1 year ago
I agree with the two top rated comments. To add a little: tapping like that and more, as far as I know, was popularized by Alan Holdsworth. It is a good discussion.
But getting back to FZ, even if one doesn't go for Frank's foulest (lyrics), there is still a lot of awesome music left. The guy was a genius and many who played with him say just that!
cjk9013 1 year ago
There is Frank tapping two years before Van Halen at 5:43. Ha, so that's where he really got it.
patrickmichels 1 year ago
@patrickmichels - George Lynch has said in an interview that he and Eddie saw Harvey Mandel tap at the Starwood Club in the 1970s. From a March 2009 Metal Den George Lynch interview
greatclipsWP 1 year ago
what guitar does he have? 3:55
Purps013 1 year ago
@Purps013 frank is playing a gibson SG model guitar. i do like the jazz music.J.p.J
jaypauljackson 1 year ago
@Purps013 Looks like a heavily customized Gibson SG.
bilbomarks 1 year ago
@Purps013 this may be the sg that rex hot rodded for him. i think that one was destroyed and this may be the next one he got. don't know for sure.
bunkhabit 1 year ago
@Purps013 thats a gibson sg a solid body electric guitar his son has it now
spacepatrolman 1 year ago
Great vintage FZ video....too bad the audio quality is so poor...
parkyboy1959 1 year ago
It's obvious that Mike Douglas respected Frank. To think of this as daytime teevee fare in 1977. The studio band does an excellent job here.
DouglasWatts 1 year ago
Good ole Mike Douglas. Saw a lot of music on his show.
PeterMayer 1 year ago 2
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Dfrankjazz 1 year ago
Ooh. Some Black Napkins.
Frank is the man. Saw him in 1980. Invited him to my wedding. Gail sent gifts.
octofish 1 year ago
Zappa on Mike Douglas!! What a combo.
And to top it off, one of my favorite Zappa tunes. I'm sure the audience was slack-jawed.
kween51 1 year ago
I can only imagine what the people in the audience are feeling listening to Frank Zappa play Black Napkins, they must have felt their minds being blown.
Yarsh52 1 year ago
frank zappa is the fucking man , RIP
KudossMusic 1 year ago
He was rocking in 76,the best years of Frank...
48perkins 1 year ago 2
So much for the theory that Mr. Van Halen invented tapping, huh?LOL
Hedge488 1 year ago 2
I saw the original broadcast as well. The Minneapolis progressive FM station KQRS had featured the entire record on it's album hour and I still recall the DJ recapping the tracks - "...Find Her Finer, Friendly Little Finger..." - hilarious. Yes FZ was actually quite popular in the 70's, which I doubt could happen today. I now look at this wonderful record as the transitional piece bridging the Apostrophe and later periods. I'm so grateful he made this appearance and we still have it around.
tensedup 1 year ago
@tensedup Ah the good ol days of KQRS. Didn't they change the slogan to "Less Rock, More Talk" since then?
funkster007 1 year ago
i remember watching this show in 76 i was in college and was walking pass the student union and i see my music idol performing " black napkins " i had the zoot allures album for about 2 weeks he was an awsome composer who will be compared to Bach or Beetoven one day
blad995 1 year ago
I fucking love Frank!
Macksayev 1 year ago
Zappa allways the trailblazer... this was so far ahead of it's time and currently light years ahead of it's time... most of us have not caught up with Zappa yet.
xMaSTerOFtHeWicKeDxX 1 year ago
underrated guitarist
TheHawkdaddy 1 year ago
Wow ..what a tasteful guest !
It sure would be interesting to see what else is in the Mike archive
dullsvillain 1 year ago
Do you mean the show band was backing him.... ? Not his group... Does that happen? Present day as well?
HeyStupidFlanders 1 year ago
zoot is a down and dirty rock album on of his best
zappahart 1 year ago
Frank was a musical genius. Zoot Allures is an awesome album. Get it if you like Frank Zappa. You most definitely won't be disappointed. One of my favs.
steevon64 1 year ago
Song starts at 3:06
robertlaberge 1 year ago 2
1:49 or so..... Was that where "The Orange County Lumber Truck" came from?
Alex11710 1 year ago
@Alex11710
Yes. Roy Estrada drove an Orange County Lumber truck.
Frisbieinstein 1 year ago
@Frisbieinstein - Oh, that's funny. Thanks.
Alex11710 1 year ago
..and like who the f*** cares what I gotta say... but for me... all y'gotta do is look at this 'tube' ~ Frank aims the neck on the 'bend' and that's where it's at ... and you can see it all here ... all y'gotta do is rewind the tube... and it's kinda there -- and "that's the difference from the difference that's all the same" [rev.two-sheds]
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RevTwoSheds 1 year ago
Is that kenny rogers on the right!
SuperJoshman420 1 year ago
Frank seemed relaxed and almost enjoying himself here, a nice thing to see. Mike Douglas also seems sincerely interested as well. This is really great.
pazzensutra 1 year ago 2
dyn-o-MITE!
chumley983 1 year ago
looks like frank was tapping before van halen came out.
MrTexmojo 1 year ago 14
@MrTexmojo frank was also the original shredder at this time.When I saw him for the first time at the felt forum a month before this,he was already a shredder.he was ,by most accounts,the best rock guitarist at this time.better then page and blackmore.
fadethetrade 1 year ago
@MrTexmojo lot's of people were.
ihatespam2 6 months ago
@MrTexmojo Man!! Mister Zappa is tapping from the beggining of the 70's ... get it!!!!! That's what creativity in the mind of a genius is...he invented and somebody called Van Halen developed a bit more...
gargantua 4 months ago
@MrTexmojo Frank was doing almost everything before it hit the mainstream... it is very hard to ignore his massive talent and staggering intellect...
deweypug 4 months ago
@MrTexmojo The way Zappa did it sounded a lot finer too.
superkulmedkniv25 3 months ago
Huts68 - FZ was way before his time!
WinstonsPapa 1 year ago
best rendition. i love the horns in the background
msa1985 1 year ago
Zappoooomite!
Bellyflops2 1 year ago
Musical genius. Thanks for posting.
I don't like this new youtube format.
cjk9013 1 year ago
Always loved this song - one of his best guitar solos... I saw Frank live back in the day, and he played like an alien - otherworldly, perhaps the best leads I've ever heard.
lastdaysguitar 1 year ago
wow he made a lame afternoon show band sound good I remember this
latinchicken 1 year ago
Thanx 4 the vid post. I never saw this vid. I listened 2 Zappa in the 1960s. R.I.P. Frank.
llarlamon7758 1 year ago
@musiquemath Frank Zappa was finger tapping in the 1960s n I think that is befor Steve Hacket, also Les Paul n Mary Ford did it in the late 1950s n early 1960s. Check out old vids of Les Paul n Mary Ford on youtube.
llarlamon7758 1 year ago
Is it just me or can anybody else detect the presence of the golden ratio in those gigantorific notes of his?Words havent been written yet that describe this mans playing ,so sometimes I must freestyle.
Chronepsis5 1 year ago
shoot her in the foxhole Frank.....R.I.P.
65ludwig 1 year ago
hollly the stage/set looks like an early version of the price is right!
1MCNUTT 1 year ago
Wow, I used to watch Mike Douglas all the time and I don't remember this one. Frank couldn't of chosen a better song to pay on this show. Thanks for posting it.
XPIOLT 1 year ago 3
oooooooooooooooowe check out the pre van halen finger tapping
smithdsmit 1 year ago 26
Nice indeed, but you should know that Steve Hackett was finger tapping in 1971 in the song Musical Box.
musiquemath 1 year ago
@smithdsmit
In 1971 a mister called "Steve Hackett", a member of a Band called "Genesis", used tapping ...
f0ns0r 1 year ago
@smithdsmit People like Zappa were doing tapping way before Van Halen did it. Eddie Van Halen has said that he learned it from seeing Genesis guitarist Steve Hackett do it
horsesei 1 year ago
Zappa is a must for any music lover!!
bigcuban407 2 years ago 37
trey anastasio or trey azagthoth?
just a joke... the metalheads will get it...
axeofgod72 2 years ago
Trey anastasio's exact guitar sound in his early days...zappa lives on...
jbrown2118 2 years ago
Yeah, but Mr. Anastasio will never reach the greatness of Frank Zappa, no matter how much money his parents give him...
deweypug 2 years ago 3
lazur1--thanks for driving me back to this site with your belated response to my comment. reminded me to throw some zappa lps on the turntable, and take off clapton's "from the cradle," a great blues record I discovered the other day.
brooklynrambler 2 years ago
"fuckthequeenok" : Funny thing is: The lead guitarist on "Highway 61 Revisited' is the late, great Mike Bloomfield, well known as a "guitar wanker', prone to turn up too loud & play too many notes at the dropof the hat . He just happend to do it better than anyone else. There's an old Bloomfield interview where he says that , before the session, Dylan warned him: "Don't play any of that BB King shit".
lazur1 2 years ago
BerserkaViking: Holdsworth has such unusual(7 great) technique, & such large hands, that he sounds like he's 2-hand tapping, but he's only using his left hand on the fingerboard. Check some of his videos out to see what I mean.
lazur1 2 years ago
well Hendrix....
urwclwg 2 years ago
see below for response
urwclwg 2 years ago
Yo Mama!
urwclwg 2 years ago
well said
urwclwg 2 years ago
I would much rather have only Zappa'a guitar playing to listen to than to have only anyone else's
urwclwg 2 years ago
No, he was known as a completely unique and virtuosic guitar player; he lived in a win-win world. Another poster noted that he is the only guitarist to have been given a cover to cover issue of Guitar Player. He had skill - he practised a lot - but he also had what few others had, something to play.
urwclwg 2 years ago
That's a good point. It was set up for disaster. Mike Douglas was the most surprised person there.
urwclwg 2 years ago
I have them all; not on any of mine either
urwclwg 2 years ago
I saw Dweez play it
urwclwg 2 years ago
I didn't realize that. That makes the Mike Douglas band the very first Zappa cover band. They did great.
urwclwg 2 years ago
LOL
urwclwg 2 years ago
wasted
urwclwg 2 years ago
no doubt
urwclwg 2 years ago
Bob Dylan is to singing what FZ is to guitar playing; the best there is at what he does.
urwclwg 2 years ago
I don't know if Frank ever made better use of an opportunity. Wonderful post.
urwclwg 2 years ago
Is that a real poncho or is that a sears poncho?
joeyoscorpio 2 years ago
there are 10 men like him per century
kinggambitabc 2 years ago
Oh? Who are the other nine?
urwclwg 2 years ago
Hendrix, Pastorius, Django Reinart, and 6 others...
kinggambitabc 2 years ago
And the six others are?
urwclwg 2 years ago
Serge Gainsbourg and 5 others
kinggambitabc 2 years ago
Hard to do, isn't it? I have my own favorites, and my basis is strictly enjoyment; I am not a guitarist. I like Roby Buchanon, Johnny "Guitar" Watson, Joe Satriani, even Lou Reed and Duane Allman; the difference is that, with the possible exception of Lou Reed, none have any where near the quantity of guitar pieces I like compared (odious as comparisons may be) with Zappa. I am unfamiliar with Serge Gainsbourg; I will make a point of checking him out.
urwclwg 2 years ago
I meant to say that Zappa used to be 1 of the 10 best creative GENIUSES of the 20th century
kinggambitabc 2 years ago 3
Ah! Yes you did not specify guitarists; my mistake. I checked out Gainsbourg and wondered where the guitar was! Still, ten are hard to come by. Nabokov makes my list, Dylan, Lou Reed (like Zappa, more than a guitar player), John Gardner (Sunlight Dialogues, not the mystery writer or the political scientist), Andrew Wyath, Coppola,. It would be more correct to say that I appreciate these geniuses; there are many more of whom I know nothing beyond the superficial (e.g. Stephen Hawkins).
urwclwg 2 years ago
@urwclwg please explain why lou reed is a creative genius. im not arguing, just really want to know. it seems like hes a pretty normal rock guy... didnt john cale do all the creative work behind vu's first album? and bowie was heavily involved with reeds solo career
DimebagsLeftToe 1 year ago
@DimebagsLeftToe John Cale dropped out before Rock and Roll Animal, the excellence of which revealed to me what aspects of the Velvet Underground I like the best - Lou's. I was as disappointed as anyone by some of his releases, but on most of them there was at least one gem. Transformer had Perfect Day, Walk On The Wild Side, Satellite Of Love, AND New York Telephone Conversation; Rock and Roll Animal had Intro to Sweet,and Rock 'n' Roll; Coney Island Baby had Nobody's Business, Street (more)
urwclwg 1 year ago
@DimebagsLeftToe (continued) Hassle had Street Hassle, but it was Magic and Loss that raised him the proverbial "heads and shoulders" above the rest. The videos are priceless artifacts of American music. Ecstasy.
Quality, someone said (Nabokov?), is the distributive aspect of quantity. In my opinion Louie Louie by the Kingsmen is the greatest rock and roll song of all time, yet I have nothing to say about the Kingsmen (I had the album).
You have my opinion; but you'll want one of your own.
urwclwg 1 year ago
GENIUS and VISIONARY
kinggambitabc 2 years ago
This song is very great to fit in this stupid show
marcelolester 2 years ago
show couldn't have been that stupid..they had Zappa as a guest and they let him play his guitar. You know they players in the house band were probably all fired up about playing with Frank.
catfish1260 2 years ago
mr zappa big al the way
killer070911 2 years ago
i think the audio and video quality makes this video fuckin amazing. 5 stars
itscrawford 2 years ago 2
Frank and The Mother's. He was a pure musician.
faronthefiddler 2 years ago
Wow love it
5******
Terry
gherkamum 2 years ago
Thanks for the post. This was nice.
phillycheeze62 2 years ago
Huge big-balls move for Mike Douglas to have Frank on. Very cool.
GusBulltamer 2 years ago 2
wow Zappa and Jimmy "JJ "Walker on the same stage! Dyno---mite!!!
truenorthcompass 2 years ago
hahahaha
matto902 2 years ago
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kcper1 2 years ago
you can tell zappa wasnt really into the band he was playing with in the beginning...totally uncomfortable....he still ripped it up like no one's business tho
Diggity6470 2 years ago
Outstanding find - I've heard of it, never found it until today. That's great!
I don't think it's a tape. Even though it is missing the "room space" I think it's just old. The end doesn't sync and falls apart by the band.
billthemountain 2 years ago
So I guess Van Halen didn't invent tapping like he says he did on a toilet. Maybe watching Zappa on a toilet.
12Jetdiver55 2 years ago 3
I know Steve Hackett of Genesis used tapping earlier that this (''73) but I seem to recall it might actually date back to the 50's(?)
trgzbaby 2 years ago
In the '40s,Tal Farlow tapped (&slid) sparsely, usually to add notes to chords ending ballads. I heard Randy Resnick w/ 'Pure Food & Drug Act' do extensive modal tapping in '72..he'd obviously been tapping for years. Harvey Mandel joined 'PF&DA" in '73, & later took credit for inventing tapping, but he didn't tap a note 'til '74. In the '60s Roy Buchanon was hitting his pick on the fretboard for a similar, more percussive, effect.
lazur1 2 years ago
The studio band he played with was actually pretty good!
frog606 2 years ago
studio band? man that was tape all day
joodris 2 years ago
No, it's the band. Besides, if it was a tape, it would've been -Frank's- tape, & wouldn't be this generic two-chord vamp.
lazur1 2 years ago
MIke Douglas was a real gentleman, especially with the performing artists. He took chances having people like Zappa on, and it paid off for him. And his week of shows with Ian Anderson as cohost was classic.
drhowarddrfinedrhowa 2 years ago
Mike Douglas was the nicest guy in show business. There will never be another talk show host like him again.
tambourmn 2 years ago 5
JUST BRILLIANT
jacosan 2 years ago
A youngin'!
rosadodd 2 years ago
such a difference with how talk shows were and are now... exception being Charlie Rose...Mike Douglas was really cool with Zappa no agenda just asking what the artist was about.
zombietooth 2 years ago 6
Yeah. This guy actually knows how to conduct an interview.
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byoork 2 years ago
Sometimes I think that when we talk about Einstein, Curie, Bohrs, Edison, Tesla, and the rest, we should include Zappa.
huts68 2 years ago 30
hear hear!
HereticWarfare 2 years ago
I think this was Thangiving Day W/e as I was home from school and watched it on my parents TV.
I had seen FZ twice in 74 and twice in 75, but he hadn't been around since.
I was always thankful to Mike D for this needed fix. Ahhhh, memories!!!
npspec34 2 years ago