The theory of evolution is based on natural selection of the most adaptable member of a species. Scientists a century ago believed the smallest single living cell was a simple life form. The cell then divided and evolved into higher life forms. This view is now proven to be immature to the degree of being ridiculous. The most modern laboratory is unable to create a living cell. In fact, scientists have been unable to create a single left-hand protein molecule as found in all animals.
i dont understand the people who think islam or muslim have no involvement in science, just to let all those who have such a view, seeking knowledge is part of worship of our lord after all regarding science, it is the work of god which us humans has a tool (science) by observing his grand masterpiece. and dont limit the word knowledge
Many (most) scientists and religionists are the same. They are absolutely certain about their intelligence, despite their ignorance. Very little humility in either camp. Either could say", My Karma ran over my Dogma." In either case, the world is irreplacable and we should treat it with care.
In 100 years time you will be dead and in your grave but you did not take your time to learn about the hereafter, Islam is the true religion you are the decendent of Adam A.S. the proof of God is all around you science denies gods and not a creator (One God) so the truth is there is no go but Allah and Mohammed sws is His messenger - take your time and research Islam
Excellent job at researching and assembly of this video. Certainly an embarrassment to a lot of believers that random chance is the cause of the origins of life.
theory: maybe God not is a single largeness but an assembly of a multitude of life forms ( just like humans are comprised of many living cells and organisms) hence being in 'the likeness of God' is as simple as having DNA.
The Big Bang theory confirmed that the universe and time had a beginning and that matter did not exist from eternity but was created. The assertion that the universe existed from eternity was thus debunked. The Big Bang not only demonstrated that the universe was created by the Creator, but at the same time the false beliefs like the distribution of sovereignties among divinities, were proved wrong.
Man must think on how he came into being, what the purpose of his life is, why he will die and what awaits him after death. He must question how he, himself, and the whole universe came into existence and how they continue to exist. It is He who sends down water from the sky. From it you drink and from it come the shrubs among which you graze your herds. And by it He makes crops grow for you and olives and dates and grapes and fruit of every kind. (Quran)
'wallidjan - Man must think on how he came into being....'
Yes, while the message is correct, in my opinion it is incomplete. Without offending may i add [Men seeking wisdom] must think on how he came into being...
'wallidjan - He must question...'
Nice, Without questions there can be no gaining of knowledge or sharing of wisdom.
The Big Bang doesnt demonstrate being created by this CREATOR you speek of, its all in Hebrew Scripture, seven days, not millions upon billions of years.
Excellent job at researching and assembly of this video. Certainly an embarrassment to a lot of believers that random chance is the cause of the origins of life. Who says it was random chance?
The creation vs. evolution debate is a question of origins. How did we get here? Were we created or did we evolve randomly? Are we the product of purposeful intelligence or are we merely the end result of countless cosmic accidents? Does it even matter?
i can attest i was a product of intelligent design, however there are those carry a resentment of design because they know that they are not the result of intelligent design.
Yes it matters if getting from point A to point B is important.
Human knowledge of the material world is attained through the use of the five senses; and certainly the five senses are useless in acquiring knowledge of the spiritual world. The only way to acquire some knowledge of the spiritual world is through divine revelation.
We ordinary mortals have no way of getting direct revelation, as it is given only to Gods prophets. And there are no prophets living now, nor can a new prophet come again.
Yet, the knowledge of the spiritual world revealed to the prophets of the past is available to us in the Books of God.
A fact worth mentioning is that the Books of God except the Last and the Complete one - called the Holy Quran - are not extant in the original form in which they were revealed. So we need to go to the Holy Quran to know about the spirit, about God, about the hereafter etc.
"Human knowledge of the material world is attained through the use of the five senses" Wrong, it was Aristotle (384-322 BCE) who said we have 5 senses but we actually have between 9 and 21 ( depending on what you would consider a sense), he also said there were 4 elements, but we don't believe that now.
"are useless in acquiring knowledge of the spiritual world." or there's the simple fact that it doesn't exist.
"there are no prophets living now, nor can a new prophet come again." According to your book. which has so far only been able to teach us how to beat our wives, be intolerant and that the sun sets in a muddy puddle, so its not the best place to get information.
"Yet, the knowledge of the spiritual world revealed to the prophets of the past" who were then likely just mad men who spent a lot of time talking to them selves in caves.
There are prophets & psychics now! The prophets of old were also mortal. There is no law that says prophets were only in biblical times & can never come again.
Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the last and final messenger of Allah, and he was sent to all of mankind. Allah sent him with a number of miracles, not the least of which was the Quran. The predictions and prophecies of Muhammad (peace be upon him) have come true even in this century and the Quran has been used to convince even scientists of the existence of Allah. (you can google search this -how scientists been convenced that the Quran is from God)
In the Qur'an, people are asked to look around them for the signs of Allah in the natural world. The balance of the world, the rhythms of life, are "signs for those who would believe." The universe is in perfect order: the orbits of the planets, the cycles of life and death, the seasons of the year, the mountains and the rivers, the mysteries of the human body. This order and balance are not haphazard nor random. The world, and everything in it, has been created with a perfect plan, by Allah
"The universe is in perfect order" Are sure about that??!, the more we find out about the universe the more chaotic we find it. . its anything but perfect.
"the orbits of the planets" its called gravity, there's nothing magic about it. if they orbited any of other way apart from elliptical then fair enough that may be a sign, but they don't. . . everything appears to follow natural laws without any help from a god.
Einstein has shown that time is the fourth dimension contiguous with space. In other words, we live in a world that is a space-time continuum.
Allah does not exist in the world unlike material objects or physical beings. Allah's existence transcends the world of space and time, as it is He Who has created not only all the objects and beings of the world, but also all the laws of space and time governing material and temporal existence.
"Einstein has shown that time is the fourth dimension contiguous with space. In other words, we live in a world that is a space-time continuum." Yes, but what's your point?
"Allah does not exist in the world unlike material objects or physical beings. " okay, then what is allah? , whats he made of ?, whers does he live?, how does he create things ?
don't go telling telling things like " he doesn't follow the laws of our unniverse" because that just tells me what he isn't
"the cycles of life and death" exactly how is that proof of any god?
" the seasons of the year," again this occurs naturally, we know the earth tilts which causes seasons. . . if the season happened randomly then that may be a sign, but they dont. they follow exact the same rotational pattern we would expect it to if there were no god.
"the mysteries of the human body" there's not really a mystery there, even if there was just because we don't know doesn't mean we should point to magic.
" This order and balance are not haphazard nor random." Nobody has ever said it is. It follows natural law which we observe all the time.
"The world, and everything in it, has been created with a perfect plan" I don't mean to be offensive but if the way your god has done it is part of a perfect plan, then he's either a retard or evil.
i will need to have a million times more faith to believe in chance, than to believe in god, it's like winning the lottery everyday for the rest of all of my generations to come.
"i will need to have a million times more faith to believe in chance, than to believe in god," That's right, its just a shame evolution isn't about 'chance.
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Think about this the next time that you are looking up at the moon or the stars on a clear night;could you drop a drinking glass on the sidewalk and expect that it would hit the ground and on impact it would not shatter,but it would divide up into little small drinking glasses,with iced tea in them? Ofcourse not.And then consider if atornado came through ajunkyard and tore through the oldcars;would it leave behind anice new Mercedes with the engine running and no parts left around? Naturally not
evolution never states that things just happen in one step by chance, it's a progressive adaptation of organisms throgh small verriations in the DNA, that over time are passed on and on through the genetic line and assuming that your species isn't entirely based on insest spread into other forms of creatures all sharing some component on their ansestors DNA, just like creationists make a stupid comment that they are not from monkeys, they are not! we all share a common ansestor with the apes.
and this video is not entirely true, scientists can't exactly make "life" but it has been shown that aplication of electricity to certain chemicals produce amenoacids, and ameno acids is what forms life, so... yeah, it is possible for life top come from no life
The origins of algae go back to very early times. Fossilized algae have been found that date from 3.1 to 3.4 billion years ago. How algae came to be is one of those questions that have left evolutionists at an impasse. They claim that the first cell evolved over time to form algae and for this reason, the algae are a primitive form of plant.
algae is a perfect example of when unicllular life evolved to become multicellular, and is a fantastic piece of evidence in favour of evolution - which I can explain if u like?
And algae is probably a primitive form of plant, dont ask me but ask the people that devote their lives to its study
wallidjan... due to your severe lack of understanding about anything at all, I've concluded that you are a lost cause and cannot be swayed due to large amounts of denial and brainwashing. You've ignored nearly everything I've said, and do not apply any logic to the things you say.
Allah hasn't been proven, yet you believe him? Why? Because things are complex? No, we know how those things work, and the hand of Allah isn't needed.
I suggest you obtain a proper education to better understand this
Can you prove that you exist? Yes, of course you can. You merely use your senses to determine that you can see, hear, feel, smell, taste and you have emotions as well. All of this is a part of your existence. But this is not how we perceive God in Islam. We can look to the things that He has created and the way that He cares for things and sustains us, to know that there is no doubt of His existence.
so what does god actually do in the modern world??? every single thing that happens can be explained, rain, volcanoes, comets, child birth..... is god dead? or has he stopped gettign involved in things?
And Allah has Created every animal from water; of them are some creeping on their bellies; some walk on two legs; and some on four. Allah Creates what He wills: for sure Allah has Power over all things.
part3 Today every single Muslim has memorized some part of the Quran in the original Arabic language that it was revealed in over 1,400 years ago, even though most of them are not Arabs. There are over nine million (9,000,000) Muslims living on the earth today who have totally memorized the entire Quran, word for word, and can recite the entire Quran, in Arabic just as Muhammad, peace be upon him, did 14 centuries ago.
Have you understood what I was saying? Why don't you talk to me ? Why are you so worried about what others think? Stop presenting me your propaganda, just think as a human being. Do you understand what I was saying or not?
Think about this the next time that you are looking up at the moon or the stars on a clear night; could you drop a drinking glass on the sidewalk and expect that it would hit the ground and on impact it would not shatter, but it would divide up into little small drinking glasses, with iced tea in them? Of course not.
Can you prove that you exist? Yes, of course you can. You merely use your senses to determine that you can see, hear, feel, smell, taste and you have emotions as well. All of this is a part of your existence. But this is not how we perceive God in Islam. We can look to the things that He has created and the way that He cares for things and sustains us, to know that there is no doubt of His existence.
exactly a primetive explanation to something unknown using of simple examples present in those days and understanding of the world. A "great lamp" lol ahhahahaha How do you see the truth is this?? it just sais I made a huge lamp in the sky lol
part2 No one has been able to produce a book like it, nor ten chapters like it, nor even one chapter like it. It was memorized by thousands of people during the lifetime of Muhammad, peace be upon him, and then this memorization was passed down from teacher to student for generation after generation, from mouth to ear and from one nation to another.
And then consider if a tornado came through a junkyard and tore through the old cars; would it leave behind a nice new Mercedes with the engine running and no parts left around? Naturally not.
part1 Charles Darwin was only an armature naturalist and had only observed the finches (birds) on the Galapagos Islands for the first time in the mid 1850s. He noticed that on each island the birds had different shaped beaks according to the type of food available on their particular island. For this reason, he assumed, the birds had progressed over millions of years and only the hardiest of the species had survived the climate and vegetation changes.
Dawrin did not assume, he first studied his evidence then formed hypothosies from his evidence (something common on many scientific studies). THen, he continued to study it while attempting to find more examples.
The difference between Evolution and Creationism is that Evolution has evidence and Creationism does not. It assumes a powerful God (Allah in this case) created everything. This doesn't explain anything, nothing on how it was made or what materials were used.
There are millions of people controlling the traffic on road, sea, and air.
Beacons are built. People also build traffic light and radar. On the contrary, the Earth, Sun, Moon, Stars, and others always revolve for billions of years without single crash. Most scientists believe that the Earth, Sun, and all of the other planets and moons in the solar system formed about 4.6 billion years ago.
For billions of years until now the Earth never bump into the Sun, and the Sun never collides with the Moon. There is no mark, police, nor pilots to drive them. Without God, the Controller of the Universe, none of these would happen. Everything is in order because there is God who controls everything. Allah has put orbit for each of those things. If we really think about it then we will know that God exist.
dont use God as an argument for everything you don't know. What you wonna say is I DON'T KNOW how it's possible and I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT AN EXPLANATION so you use God as an excuse to fill all the gaps in your knowledge. I refuse to do this. If we dont know something we simply DON'T KNOW IT!!! It doesnt mean we have to explain everything by the God argument... Live with it, we dont know anything for a fact! Its sad for you if you cant live with that!
part1 Muslims have something that offers the most clear proof of all, The Holy Quran. There is no other book like it anywhere on earth. It is absolutely perfect in the Arabic language. It has no mistakes in grammar, meanings or context. The scientific evidences are well known around the entire world, even amongst non-Muslim scholars. Predictions in the Quran have come true; and its teachings are clearly for all people, all places and all times.
part2 According to the scientists discoveries in that very same year, the effects of the weather phenomenon known as El Nino, the climate on these same exact islands had drastically changed in a single year within a number of months. And to their surprise, the eggs of the finches on each island hatched open producing birds with beaks already altered to accommodate the changes of their environment.
Isn't natural selection something? The changes an orginisim can take while under harsh weather or the correct environment that supports their adaptations. Of course, for it to occur this quickly is strange, which leads to my assumption is that it was already in their genes, but simply was not displayed physically on their parents.
Well, debates like this seem more effective when done in person. he can simply skim our messages, while in person he has no choice but to hear our words and respond.
But that is only effective if both sides were expert. For me, I can't defend atheism right there and there, I need some time for preparations for arguments and some citations if needed before I could speak up. Plus, if done in person, there would be higher chances of making mistakes on claims (I hate it when it happens). So I usually do the debate online or in writing. Unfortunately you're right that this guy simply ignores the point he can't argue with =(
Allah has explained how He created everything in the universe and brought all life out of water. He created humans from earth (not monkeys) and there is no need to attempt fabrications of "links" to the animal world in Islam.
How did he though? How did he take earth and create us from it?
Where is the phsyical empirical evidence in this? Even if Evolution was wrong, doesn't mean Creationism is correct. To believe in something without question is purely blind faith, and will never be science for as long as I live.
take a look at planes, cars, TVs, etc, it would be irrational if we say that all exist by themselves, If the simple thing such as the match has its makers, then the universe that far more complex than that must be has its creator.
The Earth where 8 billion people live has circumference 40,000 km. The circumference of the Sun is 4.3 million km. The Sun and its 8 planets along with 100 billion stars are in the Milky Way galaxy whose length is 100,000 light years away.
I know it's remarkable and amazing and life is sooo complicated etc...etc...etc....etc..... nothing is certain but one thing is WE DON'T FUCKING KNOW!!!!!! it doesn't mean that it should be explained through some higher mystic higher power!!! Why??? It's complicated amazing so what does it say??? does it say God ??? NO IT DOESN't!!! IT DOESN't SAY ANYTHING!! Thats the whole problem! Thats why we frikin don't know!
Can a fast food restaurant operate itself without any people there? That's crazy for anyone to even think about.
After considering all of the above, how could we look to the universe above us through a telescope or observe the molecules in a microscope and then think that all of this came about as a result of a "big bang" or some "accident?"
Some other religions teach that "God is everywhere." This is actually called "pantheism" and it is the opposite of our believe system in Islam. Allah tells us clearly that there is nothing, anywhere in the universe that resembles Him, nor is He ever in His creation. He tells us in the Quran that He created the universe in six "yawm" (periods of time) and then He "astawah 'ala al Arsh" (rose up, above His Throne).
For the Muslim there is no need for separation between religion and science. It is understood from the Quran, revealed over 1,400 years ago, that there is both; "Creation" and "Evolution." And in both instances, it is only Allah who is "Able to do all things." In fact, it was the Muslim scientists, more than 1,000 years ago, who set the stage for the advancement of learning, technology and disciplines in science that we know today.
The Quran has set a precedent 14 centuries before modern science, explaining in simple and direct terms about his "creation" of animals and their various functions and then assures us it is He who has the Power over everything. This statement includes the fact Allah can if He Wills, reshape and alter his creation as He Chooses.
There is no DNA research pointing to a connection between apes and humans as was supposed by the scientists and those who had financed them over the years. In fact, the barnyard pig is closer to humans in many aspects, than a monkey or a gorilla. Consider the fact, doctors use the skin from pigs to replace needed tissue on burn victims and the famous movie actor, John Wayne had a pig's heart valve installed in his own heart in a 1977 operation to save his life.
Certain parts of the pig are vastly similar to ours... like certain body organs like the liver, or spleen. As for closest genetic in genes, we are 99% similar to chimps, only a one percent variation of the DNA makes us that much different.
And yes, a lot of DNA research points to connections between apes and humans. Some chromosomes are identical, share numerous common traits that greatly enhances our knowledge of Evolution.
How can you say there is no connection between apes and humans? If we share about 99% of our dna??? Listen you are making a big flaw if you are approaching religion the scientific way imo... There is no way to talk to religion no way to falsify it, it's just written in a book and one has to interpret it thats it... You see our brain works a funny way, when we know two things especially if one is open to interpretation we are very much capable of connecting them both.
He it is who appointed the sun a splendor and the moon stages, that ye might know the number of the years, and the reckoning. Allah created not (all) that save in truth. He detaileth the revelations for people who have knowledge [Quran 10:5]
It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit [Quran:40]
Science is ever changing one has to be able to respond and falsify own results. If you want religion to be science then you must bring back those who wrote it. I'm not fascinated by the mythical comparison in a scientific sense for I can two make something up that wouldnt be necessary wrong. You know empiricism is approaching the lives question a very different way than religion. It's silly to even compare both. So keep those two as far from each other as can be please.
In another verse, Allah challenges others to create a fly if they could do it. Men may be could make robots from things that created by Allah. Yet, none could make a fly from nothing nor thing that could reproduce except Allah:
Lo! Those on whom ye call beside Allah will never create a fly though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly took something from them, they could not rescue it from him. So weak are (both) the seeker and the sought![Quran]
To me it sounds like you base your religion upon how many things a God can do lol. What kinda faith is that? Can you drive a car while eating a pretzel with your foot? Huh??HUH?? Well God can!!! Lol cmon man your better than that
Allah does not force anyone to submit to Him. He has layed out a clear path and then made it known to them the two ways (Heaven or Hell). The person is always free to make his or her own choice. There is not complusion in the way of "Islam." Whoever choses to worship Allah without partners and is devoted to Him and is obeying His commands as much as possible, has grasped the firm handhold that will never break.
Ive read the firct bit of the quran, and it clearly states what will happen to non-believers like me.... This I do not like, and is not a good advert for islam, or any religion
"How do you know that the Quran is really from God?"
Muslims have something that offers the most clear proof of all, The Holy Quran. There is no other book like it anywhere on earth. It is absolutely perfect in the Arabic language. It has no mistakes in grammar, meanings or context. The scientific evidences are well known around the entire world, even amongst non-Muslim scholars.
Empiricism is flawed in its own way, for instance they only consider the 5 sense to be valid. Spirituality is way beyond that and can answer lives questions but NOT the empirical way. It's just a different approach, so when I see people combing both saying one is better over the other I always say it's BULLSHIT!
To those arrogant people who deny the existence of God, Allah questions them about His creatures. Who is the creator of sperm and plant? People or God the All Wise Creator?
Have ye seen that which ye emit?
Do ye create it or are We the creator? [Quran]
Have ye seen that which ye cultivate?
Is it ye who foster it, or are We the Fosterer? [Quran 56:63-64]
Was it ye who made the tree thereof to grow, or were We the grower? [Quran 56:72]
wtf are you talking about ahha, stop your brainwashed nonsense and think straight for a second.... You dont have to site the holy book every time you have to make a point you know.. Use your logic. You are not responding to my comment , you are just spitting some rhetoric. Have you even understood what my point is?
Whoever denies God and choses some other way to worship or not to believe at all, for them there is an eternal punishment that is most horrible (Hell).
Thereis clear evidence within many species of alteration and changes within the species. However,thereis no concrete evidence to support across over indevelopment from one type to another,such as reptiles turning into birds or alligators turning into cows.The statements made in Quran are quite clear when Allah tells us of having brought forth other life forms and then destroying or replacing them withothers.This again,doesnot imply evolution inthe senseof onetype becomingor changing into another
Honestly, this video offers no insight into the debate. The evidence provided is too shallow. We humans haven't created life from non-living matter like chance did, but then again, random chance had more time and chances than we do with just a few beakers and what little chemicals we can use. Many parts of cells are self-assembling (allong with the cell membrane and the reticulum and golgi-apparatus that are continuous with it). As for DNA, it wasn't required for life: RNA came first. (cont'd)
All it takes is RNA and a few randomly created ribosomes to begin evolution and natural selection. non-functioning RNA would simply do nothing, but the chances are good that different useful pieces could have by chance created the first structures necessary for cell-life. Amino Acids only need ATP and an enzyme to join to tRNA, creating the materials for ribosomes and RNA use to create the proteins and lipids required to form living cells. It's a BIG world with many chances to get things right.
As we have seen, coincidences acted in the knowledge of what they wanted to produce. Right from the very start, "chance" knew what seeing, hearing and breathing were, even though there was not one example of such things anywhere in the world at that time. It displayed great intelligence and awareness, exhibited considerable forward planning, and constructed life step by step.
For instance, although they are aware that random events do not cause anything other than irregularity and confusion, they still claim that the marvellous order, plan, and design seen both in the universe and in living organisms arose by chance
Most people accept everything they hear from scientists as strictly true. It does not even occur to them that scientists may also have various philosophical or ideological prejudices. The fact of the matter is that evolutionist scientists impose their own prejudices and philosophical views on the public under the guise of science.
Part4 Islam tells us Allah is both The Creator & The Evolver, of all that exits. We know Allah did not evolve us from monkeys, and we know all things are from Allah.
-Evolution is not series of random chances. It's guided by natural selection. Just as artificial selection evolved a grass family into rice, barley, and wheat, natural selection is deterministic.
-We know that cars are designed and built by humans because we've seen car factories and engineers. There is no naturalistic explanation for car. However, we have conclusive explanation for the complexities of life.
Why are you very skeptical about science? And why are you not skeptical about something your Allah says? Shouldn't it be the other way around? Come on, you dare to question science, but you don't dare to question your Allah, don't you think you're putting a little discrimination there? Can't you judge something based on the evidence? Even if you disprove evolution, that doesn't prove your Allah to exist. Be reasonable, logical and unbiased.
All the millions of living species on the earth possess miraculous features, unique behavioural patterns and flawless physical structures. Every one of these living things has been created with its own unique detail and beauty. Plants, animals, and man above all, were all created with great knowledge and art, from their external appearances down to their cells, invisible to the naked eye.
Today there are a great many branches of science, and tens of thousands of scientists working in those branches, that research every detail of those living things, uncover the miraculous aspects of those details and try to provide an answer to the question of how they came into being.
Some of these scientists are astonished as they discover the miraculous aspects of these structures they study and the intelligence behind that coming into existence, and they witness the infinite knowledge and wisdom involved. Others, however, surprisingly claim that all these miraculous features are the product of blind chance.
Err.. I beg to disagree. Evolution is NOT only by a chance. You certainly don't know exactly what evolution is. Watch these videos so you might be enlightened about the true meaning of evolution:
And Allah has Created every animal from water; of them are some creeping on their bellies; some walk on two legs; and some on four. Allah Creates what He wills: for sure Allah has Power over all things.
part3 What if someone called a 'scientist' tells you his 'theory' of how cars are made is like this:
A salvage yard on the south side of town blows up and all the metal pieces fly into the air and fall back down in one place forming a brand new Chevrolet Caprice automobile.. with no left over parts.. and the motor is running..
Part2 Some say there first was a void or nothingness, or perhaps, some gases which exploded then from this everything in the universe simply began to evolve to the stage that we see now. There has never really been any solid evidence for this idea of 'something out of nothing' concept. Nor for that matter, the evolutionary theory itself.
There is a popular theory referred to as the 'Big Bang' theory. It tries to explain the existence of the universe in an evolutionary manner having an initial beginning with an immense explosion of some gases or solid mass.
"A complexety and organisation that could not be a product of chance" Stated, but without proof. That 747 statement? Sounds like he pulled it out of thin air, wheres the facts behind it? No facts. No proof. Utter stupidity.
10 min video of illogical argument full of holes. Not to mention mix of strawman argument.
To anyone came here to watch well reasoned argument backed up by scientific evidence, this is NOT the video. Turn around and don't waste 10 min of your life on garbage like this.
haha, the best thing about this is that youre a Muslim creationist, who spouts the same bs and disproven claims as christian creationists. do you two share notes?
Can you prove that you exist? Yes, of course you can. You merely use your senses to determine that you can see, hear, feel, smell, taste and you have emotions as well. All of this is a part of your existence. But this is not how we perceive God in Islam. We can look to the things that He has created and the way that He cares for things and sustains us, to know that there is no doubt of His existence.
part1 Islam is a way of life or a state of heart, its about what you do, and what you believe in your heart. Not what you are labeled from the outside. To find truth one must remove all bias from his heart, and genuinely search beyond the man-made labels. Can you respect each other, and overcome your differences.
part2 I have carefully studied all religions. I have sat, laughed, spoken, and interacted with so many different beautiful people from all types of religions and sects. If you genuinely do so, do you know what you will discover? The undeniable common ground! The only way we make our planet a better place for our children is by genuinely learning, interacting, and understanding each other.
part3 A verse from the Quran O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female and made you into nations and tribes that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things). Treat each other with courtesy and respect. And understand that extremism on either side is wrong.
part4 The prophet Mohammed (pbuh) said: Do good deeds porperly, sincerely and moderately...Always adopt a middle, moderate, regular course, whereby you will reach your target (of paradise)." Quran: "And be not as those who divided and differed among themselves after the clear proofs had come to them. It is they for whom there is an awful torment."
Islam means submission to the true God the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed peace be upon them all. The prophets and messengers came with same message that there is only one God. So I testify that there is no god but Allah and Mohammed is His messenger.
But we must come to an understanding of what the truth is. The Truth about the universe and life on Earth is that it originated and was created by God almighty otherwise we would not get everything working so well together e.g. the sun and earths distance is precisely calculated that if one degree closer then life on earth would be impossible. One degree closer then it be too hot for any life to survive, one degree away from the sun then it would be too cold to live.
Um no. I think its rather selfish to think that this whole enitre universe was creataded just for you. To say that god, and your god to be specific, created it all, its ignorant. We have a very full understanding of who everything works.
Another thing, I'm rather intolerent to people who don't believe in evolution, because its that same study that is necessary to develope new medicines that are actually going to help people.
PS our earth could survive if it was almost as far out as Mars.
I do believe in God, and I must say that ignorance is bliss when it comes to many, many Christians. My belief is that the universe and everything in it was created to bring glory to the creator. We should not tire in our quest for answers in our world and universe; enjoy, utilize, and question creation. Evolution is real and in its simplest form is evident in basic laboratory test conducted by Theodosius Dobzhansky with fruit flies(Drosophila pseudoobscura)back in the 1930s.
Thats where you and I differ. To me, it is our goal as people to figure out the orgins of the universe. Your a christian, so you can just accept. For an atheist, like myself, I'm all about truth.
But do you realise how many other planets don't fit that catagory in the universe? You'd think there'd be at least one in the trillions upon trillions of planets out there, yet you say "It can't be chance!". It's not chance, it's chemistry and physics.
This video does a good job in showing that it doesn't understand Evolution at all. If it did, then it's arguements would not have been so simplisticly baseless.
part1 Chemistry and physics did not created the universe but Science is the effort to discover, and increase human understanding of how the physical world works. Through controlled methods, scientists use observable physical evidence of natural phenomena to collect data, and analyze this information to explain what and how things work.
Yes, that is the scientific method. Also, I didn't claim that Physics and Chemistry created the universe ((although it very well could have)). We don't know how it was created, yet we attempt to find out. We seek the truth as you say.
However, what Creationism is doing is saying "We already have the answer." which is simpl dishonest because they have no real evidence to back up their claims. What would you bring to court to proof God is real?
Can you prove that you exist? Yes, of course you can. You merely use your senses to determine that you can see, hear, feel, smell, taste and you have emotions as well. All of this is a part of your existence. But this is not how we perceive God in Islam. We can look to the things that He has created and the way that He cares for things and sustains us, to know that there is no doubt of His existence.
part2 But to understand the purpose of life you must look deep in the sign of the Creator just by looking the things around you at nature etc you can see it has been designed and made that way so it did not come by chance.
Yes, the things around us are very complex, but this isn't evidence of a Creator. This is where physics and chemistry come into play.
Also, you have this strange notion that if something was off, nothing would exist. Well, wrong, it would continue to exist, but just in a different manner. Who knows what different versions of man could have emerged from Evolution, but the course chose this particular path while the some others failed due to poor adaptation.
Think about this the next time that you are looking upat the moon or the stars on aclear night;could you drop a drinking glass on the sidewalk and expect that it would hit the ground and on impact itwould not shatter,but it would divide up into little small drinking glasses,with iced tea in them? Of course not.And then consider if a tornado came through a junkyard and tore through the old cars; would it leave behind a nice new Mercedes with theengine running and noparts leftaround? Naturally not
If your comparison of Evolution is a sudden creation of a machine by a spontanious accident. If that's your view on Evolution then you're far too uneducated on the matter to even offer your opinion. Most atheists don't know what Evolution is, and keep to themselves.
Now, to understand Evolution, you'd need to know Cellular Biology, Genetics, Anatomy, Genealogy, Palaeontology, Environment, Atomic Chemistry, and most importantly Taxonomy. I doubt you're knowledgeable in any of these feilds.
Each living being has something called DNA, which carries their genetic code. Now how DNA became to be is still under dispute, but we don't need to know that to understand Evolution. If a species lives in an environment where its helpful to run really fast, then naturally the fast species will thrive and continue to devellope, while other species will either adapt or migrate to a more suitable environment.
Now you might notice that you may have more in common with your siblings then with your peers, and that people from certain ethnic groups and countries have certain features others may not. Eventually this diversity will continue further and further until there one group cannot reproduce with the other.
This is when they're seperate species. Its happened with Chimps and Humans, and with every other species out there. Some primates cannot mate with others, we're one of them. This isn't chance.
The living creatures found in the strata belonging to the Cambrian period emerged all of a sudden in the fossil record-there are no pre-existing ancestors.The fossils found in Cambrian rocks belonged to snails, trilobites,sponges,earthworms,jellyfish,sea hedgehogs,and other complex invertebrates. This wide mosaic of living organisms made up of such a great number of complex creatures emerged so suddenly that this miraculous event is referred to as the"Cambrian Explosion"in geological literature
When terrestrial strata and the fossil record are examined, it is to be seen that all living organisms appeared simultaneously. The oldest stratum of the earth in which fossils of living creatures have been found is that of the Cambrian, which has an estimated age of 500-550 million years.
With dating that far back, it becomes rather difficult to be acurate. Even yourself pointed out that the Cabrian fossils appeared to be between 500-550 million years, that's a give or take 50 million years (which many adaptations can take place).
The Cambrian Explosion was a sudden growth in evolution, the species were adapting at rates much faster then ourselves, thriving with the nessessary chemicals to make life possible.
If this is your evidence of God, then I hope you live a happy life...
Allah tells us He is Al-Bari, (The Shaper or Evolver) but once again, this does not mean He has a need to bring about each individual life form all from one kind. Actually, while reading the Quran you learn He has brought many types and shapes and sizes as He Wills. Changes within species occur even as quickly as one or two seasons, not even taking a whole year, much less millions as was supposed by Darwin.
But how can you know really know who the Creator is? There are hundreds of religions which one the truth. First of all no one knows what the Creator looks like so must not give Him a image in your mind, but prove to your self that God exists by looking at the creation and reflecting upon it, every second we need oxygen to breath, without food and water we would not survive so the Creator is always looking after us we should at least thank Him by worshiping Him.
You're assuming once again without evidence... poor science and the reason why many scientists dislike Creationists.
How can we know who the Creator is? My thoughts exactly, yet religion so vastly discribes the creator... and his needs... and what he wants. They have no evidence other then a contradictory book of song lyrics, hap-hazards and parables.
If you have any question about Evolution, feel free to ask. I do enjoy passing my knowledge to others... tis a great tool of science.
I think the reason people have trouble with evolution is because its hard to wrap your head around 3.8 billion years. (I think thats when life started to take place) Thats a very large number.
In the beggining, you wouldn't no what those early stages were. Would they be life? or just simple reactions. Over vast amount of time, this changed.
I'd also like to say that if we look back in the history of the world religions HAVE been incorrect about things and these HAVE been acknowledged. How can an intelligent person completely believe in something that led (and still leads some!) people to murder and maim others is beyond me. Yes the bible says not to kill, but people distort things which is partially what is happening now! If God loves you wouldn't he want to to learn and discover for yourself and find nuances in His world?!
Simply because cells are complex does not prove that God created them. Most persons who do not believe in God do not completely believe that cells just appeared on Earth by chance. Yes, cells and DNA are amazing. Yes, they are extremely intriguing and awesome. Because of this many people are choosing to use reason and their brains to discover truths and ideas instead of relying on old 'knowledge' to explain away. The world progresses because of this, not regresses.
Evolution a false religion!
the0fart0machine 1 year ago
The theory of evolution is based on natural selection of the most adaptable member of a species. Scientists a century ago believed the smallest single living cell was a simple life form. The cell then divided and evolved into higher life forms. This view is now proven to be immature to the degree of being ridiculous. The most modern laboratory is unable to create a living cell. In fact, scientists have been unable to create a single left-hand protein molecule as found in all animals.
wallidjan 2 years ago 3
i dont understand the people who think islam or muslim have no involvement in science, just to let all those who have such a view, seeking knowledge is part of worship of our lord after all regarding science, it is the work of god which us humans has a tool (science) by observing his grand masterpiece. and dont limit the word knowledge
ah05075 2 years ago
Many (most) scientists and religionists are the same. They are absolutely certain about their intelligence, despite their ignorance. Very little humility in either camp. Either could say", My Karma ran over my Dogma." In either case, the world is irreplacable and we should treat it with care.
mtnprivy 2 years ago
The first Thing is Evolution and Origin of the universe is not for chance as the same is not created for a superior been.
The second is you are using a scientific video to refute science when science is the only way of humans to get knowledge and continue evolve .
maybe in one hundred more years we all discover the real origins of all ,but for sure will be thanks to the science.
aletool 2 years ago 4
In 100 years time you will be dead and in your grave but you did not take your time to learn about the hereafter, Islam is the true religion you are the decendent of Adam A.S. the proof of God is all around you science denies gods and not a creator (One God) so the truth is there is no go but Allah and Mohammed sws is His messenger - take your time and research Islam
wallidjan 2 years ago
Actually there is debate over Whether Christ and god is the real god. I think that possibly we have the same god but have different mosiahs
goatmilk222 2 years ago
'aletool - when science is the only way of humans to get knowledge and continue evolve'
science is a recent invention of man. prior to that it was simply the practice of 'trial & error'.
unlending 2 years ago
Kenneth Miller completely dismantled the irreducible complexity argument in his book "Only a Theory."
Try reading something about evolution outside of Answers in Genesis and Conservapedia.
Leehofooks 2 years ago 2
Excellent job at researching and assembly of this video. Certainly an embarrassment to a lot of believers that random chance is the cause of the origins of life.
theory: maybe God not is a single largeness but an assembly of a multitude of life forms ( just like humans are comprised of many living cells and organisms) hence being in 'the likeness of God' is as simple as having DNA.
unlending 2 years ago
The Big Bang theory confirmed that the universe and time had a beginning and that matter did not exist from eternity but was created. The assertion that the universe existed from eternity was thus debunked. The Big Bang not only demonstrated that the universe was created by the Creator, but at the same time the false beliefs like the distribution of sovereignties among divinities, were proved wrong.
wallidjan 2 years ago
'The Big Bang theory confirmed'
Excellent argument however the fault is that it is still a man made theory limited to man's lack of understanding.
we know what we know, we know what we dont know, we dont know what we dont know.
unlending 2 years ago
Man must think on how he came into being, what the purpose of his life is, why he will die and what awaits him after death. He must question how he, himself, and the whole universe came into existence and how they continue to exist. It is He who sends down water from the sky. From it you drink and from it come the shrubs among which you graze your herds. And by it He makes crops grow for you and olives and dates and grapes and fruit of every kind. (Quran)
wallidjan 2 years ago
'wallidjan - Man must think on how he came into being....'
Yes, while the message is correct, in my opinion it is incomplete. Without offending may i add [Men seeking wisdom] must think on how he came into being...
'wallidjan - He must question...'
Nice, Without questions there can be no gaining of knowledge or sharing of wisdom.
unlending 2 years ago
How on earth does the Big Bang conclude that a so-called 'Creator' made the universe?
callumevans324 2 years ago
The Big Bang doesnt demonstrate being created by this CREATOR you speek of, its all in Hebrew Scripture, seven days, not millions upon billions of years.
intergalactic12 2 years ago
Excellent job at researching and assembly of this video. Certainly an embarrassment to a lot of believers that random chance is the cause of the origins of life. Who says it was random chance?
dominickearney 2 years ago
"wallidjan - this theory is nothing but an imaginary scenario'
isnt that what all theories are, imaginary scenarios?
unlending 2 years ago
The creation vs. evolution debate is a question of origins. How did we get here? Were we created or did we evolve randomly? Are we the product of purposeful intelligence or are we merely the end result of countless cosmic accidents? Does it even matter?
wallidjan 2 years ago
yeah, question is of that of origin.
i can attest i was a product of intelligent design, however there are those carry a resentment of design because they know that they are not the result of intelligent design.
Yes it matters if getting from point A to point B is important.
unlending 2 years ago
Why do people bother trying to argue with this religious nut?
SubTachyon 2 years ago
Not about religion, its about those choose to believe in junk science .
unlending 2 years ago
Human knowledge of the material world is attained through the use of the five senses; and certainly the five senses are useless in acquiring knowledge of the spiritual world. The only way to acquire some knowledge of the spiritual world is through divine revelation.
We ordinary mortals have no way of getting direct revelation, as it is given only to Gods prophets. And there are no prophets living now, nor can a new prophet come again.
wallidjan 2 years ago
Yet, the knowledge of the spiritual world revealed to the prophets of the past is available to us in the Books of God.
A fact worth mentioning is that the Books of God except the Last and the Complete one - called the Holy Quran - are not extant in the original form in which they were revealed. So we need to go to the Holy Quran to know about the spirit, about God, about the hereafter etc.
wallidjan 2 years ago
"Human knowledge of the material world is attained through the use of the five senses" Wrong, it was Aristotle (384-322 BCE) who said we have 5 senses but we actually have between 9 and 21 ( depending on what you would consider a sense), he also said there were 4 elements, but we don't believe that now.
"are useless in acquiring knowledge of the spiritual world." or there's the simple fact that it doesn't exist.
manhunt48 2 years ago
"there are no prophets living now, nor can a new prophet come again." According to your book. which has so far only been able to teach us how to beat our wives, be intolerant and that the sun sets in a muddy puddle, so its not the best place to get information.
"Yet, the knowledge of the spiritual world revealed to the prophets of the past" who were then likely just mad men who spent a lot of time talking to them selves in caves.
manhunt48 2 years ago
There are prophets & psychics now! The prophets of old were also mortal. There is no law that says prophets were only in biblical times & can never come again.
wavepsychic 2 years ago
Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the last and final messenger of Allah, and he was sent to all of mankind. Allah sent him with a number of miracles, not the least of which was the Quran. The predictions and prophecies of Muhammad (peace be upon him) have come true even in this century and the Quran has been used to convince even scientists of the existence of Allah. (you can google search this -how scientists been convenced that the Quran is from God)
wallidjan 2 years ago
'wallidjan - he must relieve himself of all constraints and prejudices'
unlending 2 years ago
That's the same exact thing Christians & Jews say about there Bible!
Whats your point?
wavepsychic 2 years ago
In the Qur'an, people are asked to look around them for the signs of Allah in the natural world. The balance of the world, the rhythms of life, are "signs for those who would believe." The universe is in perfect order: the orbits of the planets, the cycles of life and death, the seasons of the year, the mountains and the rivers, the mysteries of the human body. This order and balance are not haphazard nor random. The world, and everything in it, has been created with a perfect plan, by Allah
wallidjan 2 years ago
"The universe is in perfect order" Are sure about that??!, the more we find out about the universe the more chaotic we find it. . its anything but perfect.
"the orbits of the planets" its called gravity, there's nothing magic about it. if they orbited any of other way apart from elliptical then fair enough that may be a sign, but they don't. . . everything appears to follow natural laws without any help from a god.
manhunt48 2 years ago
Einstein has shown that time is the fourth dimension contiguous with space. In other words, we live in a world that is a space-time continuum.
Allah does not exist in the world unlike material objects or physical beings. Allah's existence transcends the world of space and time, as it is He Who has created not only all the objects and beings of the world, but also all the laws of space and time governing material and temporal existence.
wallidjan 2 years ago
"Einstein has shown that time is the fourth dimension contiguous with space. In other words, we live in a world that is a space-time continuum." Yes, but what's your point?
"Allah does not exist in the world unlike material objects or physical beings. " okay, then what is allah? , whats he made of ?, whers does he live?, how does he create things ?
don't go telling telling things like " he doesn't follow the laws of our unniverse" because that just tells me what he isn't
manhunt48 2 years ago
"the cycles of life and death" exactly how is that proof of any god?
" the seasons of the year," again this occurs naturally, we know the earth tilts which causes seasons. . . if the season happened randomly then that may be a sign, but they dont. they follow exact the same rotational pattern we would expect it to if there were no god.
"the mysteries of the human body" there's not really a mystery there, even if there was just because we don't know doesn't mean we should point to magic.
manhunt48 2 years ago
" This order and balance are not haphazard nor random." Nobody has ever said it is. It follows natural law which we observe all the time.
"The world, and everything in it, has been created with a perfect plan" I don't mean to be offensive but if the way your god has done it is part of a perfect plan, then he's either a retard or evil.
manhunt48 2 years ago
i will need to have a million times more faith to believe in chance, than to believe in god, it's like winning the lottery everyday for the rest of all of my generations to come.
JoshuaRamires 2 years ago
"i will need to have a million times more faith to believe in chance, than to believe in god," That's right, its just a shame evolution isn't about 'chance.
manhunt48 2 years ago
what is the name of the video this is from? i want to buy it
kingcobrakhan 3 years ago
if you search for Harun Yahyah on Google and go to his website you should be able to watch the video for free.
wallidjan 2 years ago
I love that in order to Believe in God, we already need to believe in him.
No questioning apparently, and no pointing out all the errors and inconsistant ramblings of Religion in general.
Justaddbacon 3 years ago
so what's you explanation for why DNA fucks up sometimes and creates defects in organisms?
let me guess...you're gonna blame it on mankind because of "original sin" and all that nonsense...
rjs87 3 years ago
in Islam there is no such thing as 'original sin', thats Christianity.
Ogre2011 3 years ago
not all Christians believe in original sin either
kingsoliman85 3 years ago
Iceblazer08 3 years ago
Think about this the next time that you are looking up at the moon or the stars on a clear night;could you drop a drinking glass on the sidewalk and expect that it would hit the ground and on impact it would not shatter,but it would divide up into little small drinking glasses,with iced tea in them? Ofcourse not.And then consider if atornado came through ajunkyard and tore through the oldcars;would it leave behind anice new Mercedes with the engine running and no parts left around? Naturally not
wallidjan 3 years ago
evolution never states that things just happen in one step by chance, it's a progressive adaptation of organisms throgh small verriations in the DNA, that over time are passed on and on through the genetic line and assuming that your species isn't entirely based on insest spread into other forms of creatures all sharing some component on their ansestors DNA, just like creationists make a stupid comment that they are not from monkeys, they are not! we all share a common ansestor with the apes.
awwurdead 3 years ago
yeah, havent you heard of the theory that people came from dust?
you clearly hhavent read genesis my friend!
markgg1 3 years ago
and this video is not entirely true, scientists can't exactly make "life" but it has been shown that aplication of electricity to certain chemicals produce amenoacids, and ameno acids is what forms life, so... yeah, it is possible for life top come from no life
awwurdead 3 years ago
The origins of algae go back to very early times. Fossilized algae have been found that date from 3.1 to 3.4 billion years ago. How algae came to be is one of those questions that have left evolutionists at an impasse. They claim that the first cell evolved over time to form algae and for this reason, the algae are a primitive form of plant.
wallidjan 3 years ago
so what's the problem?
awwurdead 3 years ago
huh?!
algae is a perfect example of when unicllular life evolved to become multicellular, and is a fantastic piece of evidence in favour of evolution - which I can explain if u like?
And algae is probably a primitive form of plant, dont ask me but ask the people that devote their lives to its study
markgg1 3 years ago
wallidjan... due to your severe lack of understanding about anything at all, I've concluded that you are a lost cause and cannot be swayed due to large amounts of denial and brainwashing. You've ignored nearly everything I've said, and do not apply any logic to the things you say.
Allah hasn't been proven, yet you believe him? Why? Because things are complex? No, we know how those things work, and the hand of Allah isn't needed.
I suggest you obtain a proper education to better understand this
Justaddbacon 3 years ago
Can you prove that you exist? Yes, of course you can. You merely use your senses to determine that you can see, hear, feel, smell, taste and you have emotions as well. All of this is a part of your existence. But this is not how we perceive God in Islam. We can look to the things that He has created and the way that He cares for things and sustains us, to know that there is no doubt of His existence.
wallidjan 3 years ago
by saying this you assume that:
1) things are made by god
2) if things are made by god god exists
3) there are things
4) threfore god exists
i can state the same thing with:
1) things are made by chance
2) if things are made by chance, chance exists
3) there are things
4) threfore chance exists
awwurdead 3 years ago
so what does god actually do in the modern world??? every single thing that happens can be explained, rain, volcanoes, comets, child birth..... is god dead? or has he stopped gettign involved in things?
markgg1 3 years ago
And Allah has Created every animal from water; of them are some creeping on their bellies; some walk on two legs; and some on four. Allah Creates what He wills: for sure Allah has Power over all things.
[Noble Quran 24:45]
wallidjan 3 years ago
part3 Today every single Muslim has memorized some part of the Quran in the original Arabic language that it was revealed in over 1,400 years ago, even though most of them are not Arabs. There are over nine million (9,000,000) Muslims living on the earth today who have totally memorized the entire Quran, word for word, and can recite the entire Quran, in Arabic just as Muhammad, peace be upon him, did 14 centuries ago.
wallidjan 3 years ago
Have you understood what I was saying? Why don't you talk to me ? Why are you so worried about what others think? Stop presenting me your propaganda, just think as a human being. Do you understand what I was saying or not?
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
Think about this the next time that you are looking up at the moon or the stars on a clear night; could you drop a drinking glass on the sidewalk and expect that it would hit the ground and on impact it would not shatter, but it would divide up into little small drinking glasses, with iced tea in them? Of course not.
wallidjan 3 years ago
Can you prove that you exist? Yes, of course you can. You merely use your senses to determine that you can see, hear, feel, smell, taste and you have emotions as well. All of this is a part of your existence. But this is not how we perceive God in Islam. We can look to the things that He has created and the way that He cares for things and sustains us, to know that there is no doubt of His existence.
wallidjan 3 years ago
Again, no one will believe you until you answer the arguments presented to you. You are only wasting your effort and time.
frankie6092 3 years ago
In the Quran Allah explains that He is the creator of Heaven, Star, Sun, Moon, and others:
Blessed be He Who hath placed in the heaven mansions of the stars, and hath placed therein a great lamp and a moon (Quran)
wallidjan 3 years ago
exactly a primetive explanation to something unknown using of simple examples present in those days and understanding of the world. A "great lamp" lol ahhahahaha How do you see the truth is this?? it just sais I made a huge lamp in the sky lol
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
part2 No one has been able to produce a book like it, nor ten chapters like it, nor even one chapter like it. It was memorized by thousands of people during the lifetime of Muhammad, peace be upon him, and then this memorization was passed down from teacher to student for generation after generation, from mouth to ear and from one nation to another.
wallidjan 3 years ago
can't you live with the fact that we don;t know? Answer me this!
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
And then consider if a tornado came through a junkyard and tore through the old cars; would it leave behind a nice new Mercedes with the engine running and no parts left around? Naturally not.
wallidjan 3 years ago
it could XD, just a very unlikely senario
awwurdead 3 years ago
Fail within 10 seconds.
New record I reckon:/
kamakazechris 3 years ago
part1 Charles Darwin was only an armature naturalist and had only observed the finches (birds) on the Galapagos Islands for the first time in the mid 1850s. He noticed that on each island the birds had different shaped beaks according to the type of food available on their particular island. For this reason, he assumed, the birds had progressed over millions of years and only the hardiest of the species had survived the climate and vegetation changes.
wallidjan 3 years ago
Dawrin did not assume, he first studied his evidence then formed hypothosies from his evidence (something common on many scientific studies). THen, he continued to study it while attempting to find more examples.
The difference between Evolution and Creationism is that Evolution has evidence and Creationism does not. It assumes a powerful God (Allah in this case) created everything. This doesn't explain anything, nothing on how it was made or what materials were used.
Faulty science, not good.
Justaddbacon 3 years ago
There are millions of people controlling the traffic on road, sea, and air.
Beacons are built. People also build traffic light and radar. On the contrary, the Earth, Sun, Moon, Stars, and others always revolve for billions of years without single crash. Most scientists believe that the Earth, Sun, and all of the other planets and moons in the solar system formed about 4.6 billion years ago.
wallidjan 3 years ago
For billions of years until now the Earth never bump into the Sun, and the Sun never collides with the Moon. There is no mark, police, nor pilots to drive them. Without God, the Controller of the Universe, none of these would happen. Everything is in order because there is God who controls everything. Allah has put orbit for each of those things. If we really think about it then we will know that God exist.
wallidjan 3 years ago
dont use God as an argument for everything you don't know. What you wonna say is I DON'T KNOW how it's possible and I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT AN EXPLANATION so you use God as an excuse to fill all the gaps in your knowledge. I refuse to do this. If we dont know something we simply DON'T KNOW IT!!! It doesnt mean we have to explain everything by the God argument... Live with it, we dont know anything for a fact! Its sad for you if you cant live with that!
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
part1 Muslims have something that offers the most clear proof of all, The Holy Quran. There is no other book like it anywhere on earth. It is absolutely perfect in the Arabic language. It has no mistakes in grammar, meanings or context. The scientific evidences are well known around the entire world, even amongst non-Muslim scholars. Predictions in the Quran have come true; and its teachings are clearly for all people, all places and all times.
wallidjan 3 years ago
yes thats true, and he was right!
he was the first peron to realise that we must have adapted from beings less advanced than ourselves
markgg1 3 years ago
part2 According to the scientists discoveries in that very same year, the effects of the weather phenomenon known as El Nino, the climate on these same exact islands had drastically changed in a single year within a number of months. And to their surprise, the eggs of the finches on each island hatched open producing birds with beaks already altered to accommodate the changes of their environment.
wallidjan 3 years ago
Isn't natural selection something? The changes an orginisim can take while under harsh weather or the correct environment that supports their adaptations. Of course, for it to occur this quickly is strange, which leads to my assumption is that it was already in their genes, but simply was not displayed physically on their parents.
Justaddbacon 3 years ago
Well, debates like this seem more effective when done in person. he can simply skim our messages, while in person he has no choice but to hear our words and respond.
Justaddbacon 3 years ago
I got your point. Yeah you're right.
But that is only effective if both sides were expert. For me, I can't defend atheism right there and there, I need some time for preparations for arguments and some citations if needed before I could speak up. Plus, if done in person, there would be higher chances of making mistakes on claims (I hate it when it happens). So I usually do the debate online or in writing. Unfortunately you're right that this guy simply ignores the point he can't argue with =(
frankie6092 3 years ago
Allah has explained how He created everything in the universe and brought all life out of water. He created humans from earth (not monkeys) and there is no need to attempt fabrications of "links" to the animal world in Islam.
wallidjan 3 years ago
How did he though? How did he take earth and create us from it?
Where is the phsyical empirical evidence in this? Even if Evolution was wrong, doesn't mean Creationism is correct. To believe in something without question is purely blind faith, and will never be science for as long as I live.
Justaddbacon 3 years ago
take a look at planes, cars, TVs, etc, it would be irrational if we say that all exist by themselves, If the simple thing such as the match has its makers, then the universe that far more complex than that must be has its creator.
The Earth where 8 billion people live has circumference 40,000 km. The circumference of the Sun is 4.3 million km. The Sun and its 8 planets along with 100 billion stars are in the Milky Way galaxy whose length is 100,000 light years away.
wallidjan 3 years ago
I know it's remarkable and amazing and life is sooo complicated etc...etc...etc....etc..... nothing is certain but one thing is WE DON'T FUCKING KNOW!!!!!! it doesn't mean that it should be explained through some higher mystic higher power!!! Why??? It's complicated amazing so what does it say??? does it say God ??? NO IT DOESN't!!! IT DOESN't SAY ANYTHING!! Thats the whole problem! Thats why we frikin don't know!
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
Can a fast food restaurant operate itself without any people there? That's crazy for anyone to even think about.
After considering all of the above, how could we look to the universe above us through a telescope or observe the molecules in a microscope and then think that all of this came about as a result of a "big bang" or some "accident?"
wallidjan 3 years ago
ok so if god made it, where did god come from, and how does this lead onto believing all the stuff in those old books (quran and bible)
markgg1 3 years ago
"Where is God?"
Some other religions teach that "God is everywhere." This is actually called "pantheism" and it is the opposite of our believe system in Islam. Allah tells us clearly that there is nothing, anywhere in the universe that resembles Him, nor is He ever in His creation. He tells us in the Quran that He created the universe in six "yawm" (periods of time) and then He "astawah 'ala al Arsh" (rose up, above His Throne).
wallidjan 3 years ago
For the Muslim there is no need for separation between religion and science. It is understood from the Quran, revealed over 1,400 years ago, that there is both; "Creation" and "Evolution." And in both instances, it is only Allah who is "Able to do all things." In fact, it was the Muslim scientists, more than 1,000 years ago, who set the stage for the advancement of learning, technology and disciplines in science that we know today.
wallidjan 3 years ago
FAKE
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
The Quran has set a precedent 14 centuries before modern science, explaining in simple and direct terms about his "creation" of animals and their various functions and then assures us it is He who has the Power over everything. This statement includes the fact Allah can if He Wills, reshape and alter his creation as He Chooses.
wallidjan 3 years ago
doesn't proof anything!
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
There is no DNA research pointing to a connection between apes and humans as was supposed by the scientists and those who had financed them over the years. In fact, the barnyard pig is closer to humans in many aspects, than a monkey or a gorilla. Consider the fact, doctors use the skin from pigs to replace needed tissue on burn victims and the famous movie actor, John Wayne had a pig's heart valve installed in his own heart in a 1977 operation to save his life.
wallidjan 3 years ago
Certain parts of the pig are vastly similar to ours... like certain body organs like the liver, or spleen. As for closest genetic in genes, we are 99% similar to chimps, only a one percent variation of the DNA makes us that much different.
And yes, a lot of DNA research points to connections between apes and humans. Some chromosomes are identical, share numerous common traits that greatly enhances our knowledge of Evolution.
Justaddbacon 3 years ago
How can you say there is no connection between apes and humans? If we share about 99% of our dna??? Listen you are making a big flaw if you are approaching religion the scientific way imo... There is no way to talk to religion no way to falsify it, it's just written in a book and one has to interpret it thats it... You see our brain works a funny way, when we know two things especially if one is open to interpretation we are very much capable of connecting them both.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
He it is who appointed the sun a splendor and the moon stages, that ye might know the number of the years, and the reckoning. Allah created not (all) that save in truth. He detaileth the revelations for people who have knowledge [Quran 10:5]
It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit [Quran:40]
wallidjan 3 years ago
Science is ever changing one has to be able to respond and falsify own results. If you want religion to be science then you must bring back those who wrote it. I'm not fascinated by the mythical comparison in a scientific sense for I can two make something up that wouldnt be necessary wrong. You know empiricism is approaching the lives question a very different way than religion. It's silly to even compare both. So keep those two as far from each other as can be please.
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
Can Men Create a Fly?
In another verse, Allah challenges others to create a fly if they could do it. Men may be could make robots from things that created by Allah. Yet, none could make a fly from nothing nor thing that could reproduce except Allah:
Lo! Those on whom ye call beside Allah will never create a fly though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly took something from them, they could not rescue it from him. So weak are (both) the seeker and the sought![Quran]
wallidjan 3 years ago
To me it sounds like you base your religion upon how many things a God can do lol. What kinda faith is that? Can you drive a car while eating a pretzel with your foot? Huh??HUH?? Well God can!!! Lol cmon man your better than that
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
Allah does not force anyone to submit to Him. He has layed out a clear path and then made it known to them the two ways (Heaven or Hell). The person is always free to make his or her own choice. There is not complusion in the way of "Islam." Whoever choses to worship Allah without partners and is devoted to Him and is obeying His commands as much as possible, has grasped the firm handhold that will never break.
wallidjan 3 years ago
Ive read the firct bit of the quran, and it clearly states what will happen to non-believers like me.... This I do not like, and is not a good advert for islam, or any religion
markgg1 3 years ago
"How do you know that the Quran is really from God?"
Muslims have something that offers the most clear proof of all, The Holy Quran. There is no other book like it anywhere on earth. It is absolutely perfect in the Arabic language. It has no mistakes in grammar, meanings or context. The scientific evidences are well known around the entire world, even amongst non-Muslim scholars.
wallidjan 3 years ago
the book im reading on slime mould has no grammatical mistakes and is perfect in the english langauge.
Whats your point?
markgg1 3 years ago
Empiricism is flawed in its own way, for instance they only consider the 5 sense to be valid. Spirituality is way beyond that and can answer lives questions but NOT the empirical way. It's just a different approach, so when I see people combing both saying one is better over the other I always say it's BULLSHIT!
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
Who is the Creator of People and Plants?
To those arrogant people who deny the existence of God, Allah questions them about His creatures. Who is the creator of sperm and plant? People or God the All Wise Creator?
Have ye seen that which ye emit?
Do ye create it or are We the creator? [Quran]
Have ye seen that which ye cultivate?
Is it ye who foster it, or are We the Fosterer? [Quran 56:63-64]
Was it ye who made the tree thereof to grow, or were We the grower? [Quran 56:72]
wallidjan 3 years ago
wtf are you talking about ahha, stop your brainwashed nonsense and think straight for a second.... You dont have to site the holy book every time you have to make a point you know.. Use your logic. You are not responding to my comment , you are just spitting some rhetoric. Have you even understood what my point is?
PeopleOfAr 3 years ago
Whoever denies God and choses some other way to worship or not to believe at all, for them there is an eternal punishment that is most horrible (Hell).
wallidjan 3 years ago
Thereis clear evidence within many species of alteration and changes within the species. However,thereis no concrete evidence to support across over indevelopment from one type to another,such as reptiles turning into birds or alligators turning into cows.The statements made in Quran are quite clear when Allah tells us of having brought forth other life forms and then destroying or replacing them withothers.This again,doesnot imply evolution inthe senseof onetype becomingor changing into another
wallidjan 3 years ago
Honestly, this video offers no insight into the debate. The evidence provided is too shallow. We humans haven't created life from non-living matter like chance did, but then again, random chance had more time and chances than we do with just a few beakers and what little chemicals we can use. Many parts of cells are self-assembling (allong with the cell membrane and the reticulum and golgi-apparatus that are continuous with it). As for DNA, it wasn't required for life: RNA came first. (cont'd)
zcmrrd 3 years ago
All it takes is RNA and a few randomly created ribosomes to begin evolution and natural selection. non-functioning RNA would simply do nothing, but the chances are good that different useful pieces could have by chance created the first structures necessary for cell-life. Amino Acids only need ATP and an enzyme to join to tRNA, creating the materials for ribosomes and RNA use to create the proteins and lipids required to form living cells. It's a BIG world with many chances to get things right.
zcmrrd 3 years ago
As we have seen, coincidences acted in the knowledge of what they wanted to produce. Right from the very start, "chance" knew what seeing, hearing and breathing were, even though there was not one example of such things anywhere in the world at that time. It displayed great intelligence and awareness, exhibited considerable forward planning, and constructed life step by step.
wallidjan 3 years ago
For instance, although they are aware that random events do not cause anything other than irregularity and confusion, they still claim that the marvellous order, plan, and design seen both in the universe and in living organisms arose by chance
wallidjan 3 years ago
Most people accept everything they hear from scientists as strictly true. It does not even occur to them that scientists may also have various philosophical or ideological prejudices. The fact of the matter is that evolutionist scientists impose their own prejudices and philosophical views on the public under the guise of science.
wallidjan 3 years ago
Part4 Islam tells us Allah is both The Creator & The Evolver, of all that exits. We know Allah did not evolve us from monkeys, and we know all things are from Allah.
wallidjan 3 years ago
Theory of evolution deals with how living organisms change over time. It doesn't deal with abiogensis or Big Bang. Evolution is not random.
Big Bang theory states that universe was once condensed into a singularity. No one is saying that BB was the "initial beginning"
No one can say for sure that the universe is created at some point or that the universe is permanent. Whatever people claim are speculations.
Do some research and get an education. Everything you say is fundamentally flawed
JaMoond 3 years ago 2
To elaborate on the points I have made:
-Evolution is not series of random chances. It's guided by natural selection. Just as artificial selection evolved a grass family into rice, barley, and wheat, natural selection is deterministic.
-We know that cars are designed and built by humans because we've seen car factories and engineers. There is no naturalistic explanation for car. However, we have conclusive explanation for the complexities of life.
JaMoond 3 years ago 2
Why are you very skeptical about science? And why are you not skeptical about something your Allah says? Shouldn't it be the other way around? Come on, you dare to question science, but you don't dare to question your Allah, don't you think you're putting a little discrimination there? Can't you judge something based on the evidence? Even if you disprove evolution, that doesn't prove your Allah to exist. Be reasonable, logical and unbiased.
frankie6092 3 years ago
All the millions of living species on the earth possess miraculous features, unique behavioural patterns and flawless physical structures. Every one of these living things has been created with its own unique detail and beauty. Plants, animals, and man above all, were all created with great knowledge and art, from their external appearances down to their cells, invisible to the naked eye.
wallidjan 3 years ago
Today there are a great many branches of science, and tens of thousands of scientists working in those branches, that research every detail of those living things, uncover the miraculous aspects of those details and try to provide an answer to the question of how they came into being.
wallidjan 3 years ago
Some of these scientists are astonished as they discover the miraculous aspects of these structures they study and the intelligence behind that coming into existence, and they witness the infinite knowledge and wisdom involved. Others, however, surprisingly claim that all these miraculous features are the product of blind chance.
wallidjan 3 years ago
Err.. I beg to disagree. Evolution is NOT only by a chance. You certainly don't know exactly what evolution is. Watch these videos so you might be enlightened about the true meaning of evolution:
youtubeDATcom/view_play_list?p=F626DD5B2C1F0A87&page=1
copy paste that to your browser and replace "DAT" with "."
frankie6092 3 years ago
And Allah has Created every animal from water; of them are some creeping on their bellies; some walk on two legs; and some on four. Allah Creates what He wills: for sure Allah has Power over all things.
[Holy Quran 24:45]
wallidjan 3 years ago
part3 What if someone called a 'scientist' tells you his 'theory' of how cars are made is like this:
A salvage yard on the south side of town blows up and all the metal pieces fly into the air and fall back down in one place forming a brand new Chevrolet Caprice automobile.. with no left over parts.. and the motor is running..
wallidjan 3 years ago
Part2 Some say there first was a void or nothingness, or perhaps, some gases which exploded then from this everything in the universe simply began to evolve to the stage that we see now. There has never really been any solid evidence for this idea of 'something out of nothing' concept. Nor for that matter, the evolutionary theory itself.
wallidjan 3 years ago
Part1 where did everything come from?
What is the proof
There is a popular theory referred to as the 'Big Bang' theory. It tries to explain the existence of the universe in an evolutionary manner having an initial beginning with an immense explosion of some gases or solid mass.
wallidjan 3 years ago
"A complexety and organisation that could not be a product of chance" Stated, but without proof. That 747 statement? Sounds like he pulled it out of thin air, wheres the facts behind it? No facts. No proof. Utter stupidity.
Flinchie 3 years ago
10 min video of illogical argument full of holes. Not to mention mix of strawman argument.
To anyone came here to watch well reasoned argument backed up by scientific evidence, this is NOT the video. Turn around and don't waste 10 min of your life on garbage like this.
JaMoond 3 years ago
haha, the best thing about this is that youre a Muslim creationist, who spouts the same bs and disproven claims as christian creationists. do you two share notes?
MarkG45 3 years ago 3
lol.. rafinery... fuckin creationists..
sl9guitar 3 years ago
I really do hate ceationists, its amazing how people can be so stupid.
MonkeysGrowOnTrees 3 years ago
Can you prove that you exist? Yes, of course you can. You merely use your senses to determine that you can see, hear, feel, smell, taste and you have emotions as well. All of this is a part of your existence. But this is not how we perceive God in Islam. We can look to the things that He has created and the way that He cares for things and sustains us, to know that there is no doubt of His existence.
wallidjan 3 years ago
part1 Islam is a way of life or a state of heart, its about what you do, and what you believe in your heart. Not what you are labeled from the outside. To find truth one must remove all bias from his heart, and genuinely search beyond the man-made labels. Can you respect each other, and overcome your differences.
wallidjan 3 years ago
part2 I have carefully studied all religions. I have sat, laughed, spoken, and interacted with so many different beautiful people from all types of religions and sects. If you genuinely do so, do you know what you will discover? The undeniable common ground! The only way we make our planet a better place for our children is by genuinely learning, interacting, and understanding each other.
wallidjan 3 years ago
part3 A verse from the Quran O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female and made you into nations and tribes that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things). Treat each other with courtesy and respect. And understand that extremism on either side is wrong.
wallidjan 3 years ago
part4 The prophet Mohammed (pbuh) said: Do good deeds porperly, sincerely and moderately...Always adopt a middle, moderate, regular course, whereby you will reach your target (of paradise)." Quran: "And be not as those who divided and differed among themselves after the clear proofs had come to them. It is they for whom there is an awful torment."
wallidjan 3 years ago
Islam means submission to the true God the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Mohammed peace be upon them all. The prophets and messengers came with same message that there is only one God. So I testify that there is no god but Allah and Mohammed is His messenger.
wallidjan 3 years ago
But we must come to an understanding of what the truth is. The Truth about the universe and life on Earth is that it originated and was created by God almighty otherwise we would not get everything working so well together e.g. the sun and earths distance is precisely calculated that if one degree closer then life on earth would be impossible. One degree closer then it be too hot for any life to survive, one degree away from the sun then it would be too cold to live.
wallidjan 3 years ago
Um no. I think its rather selfish to think that this whole enitre universe was creataded just for you. To say that god, and your god to be specific, created it all, its ignorant. We have a very full understanding of who everything works.
Another thing, I'm rather intolerent to people who don't believe in evolution, because its that same study that is necessary to develope new medicines that are actually going to help people.
PS our earth could survive if it was almost as far out as Mars.
rockisdead1946 3 years ago
I do believe in God, and I must say that ignorance is bliss when it comes to many, many Christians. My belief is that the universe and everything in it was created to bring glory to the creator. We should not tire in our quest for answers in our world and universe; enjoy, utilize, and question creation. Evolution is real and in its simplest form is evident in basic laboratory test conducted by Theodosius Dobzhansky with fruit flies(Drosophila pseudoobscura)back in the 1930s.
pcnetcomputers 3 years ago
Thats where you and I differ. To me, it is our goal as people to figure out the orgins of the universe. Your a christian, so you can just accept. For an atheist, like myself, I'm all about truth.
rockisdead1946 3 years ago 2
Yes... the earth fits nicely in the rotation.
But do you realise how many other planets don't fit that catagory in the universe? You'd think there'd be at least one in the trillions upon trillions of planets out there, yet you say "It can't be chance!". It's not chance, it's chemistry and physics.
This video does a good job in showing that it doesn't understand Evolution at all. If it did, then it's arguements would not have been so simplisticly baseless.
Justaddbacon 3 years ago
part1 Chemistry and physics did not created the universe but Science is the effort to discover, and increase human understanding of how the physical world works. Through controlled methods, scientists use observable physical evidence of natural phenomena to collect data, and analyze this information to explain what and how things work.
wallidjan 3 years ago
Yes, that is the scientific method. Also, I didn't claim that Physics and Chemistry created the universe ((although it very well could have)). We don't know how it was created, yet we attempt to find out. We seek the truth as you say.
However, what Creationism is doing is saying "We already have the answer." which is simpl dishonest because they have no real evidence to back up their claims. What would you bring to court to proof God is real?
Justaddbacon 3 years ago
Can you prove that you exist? Yes, of course you can. You merely use your senses to determine that you can see, hear, feel, smell, taste and you have emotions as well. All of this is a part of your existence. But this is not how we perceive God in Islam. We can look to the things that He has created and the way that He cares for things and sustains us, to know that there is no doubt of His existence.
wallidjan 3 years ago
part2 But to understand the purpose of life you must look deep in the sign of the Creator just by looking the things around you at nature etc you can see it has been designed and made that way so it did not come by chance.
wallidjan 3 years ago
Yes, the things around us are very complex, but this isn't evidence of a Creator. This is where physics and chemistry come into play.
Also, you have this strange notion that if something was off, nothing would exist. Well, wrong, it would continue to exist, but just in a different manner. Who knows what different versions of man could have emerged from Evolution, but the course chose this particular path while the some others failed due to poor adaptation.
No creator needed
Justaddbacon 3 years ago 2
Think about this the next time that you are looking upat the moon or the stars on aclear night;could you drop a drinking glass on the sidewalk and expect that it would hit the ground and on impact itwould not shatter,but it would divide up into little small drinking glasses,with iced tea in them? Of course not.And then consider if a tornado came through a junkyard and tore through the old cars; would it leave behind a nice new Mercedes with theengine running and noparts leftaround? Naturally not
wallidjan 3 years ago
If your comparison of Evolution is a sudden creation of a machine by a spontanious accident. If that's your view on Evolution then you're far too uneducated on the matter to even offer your opinion. Most atheists don't know what Evolution is, and keep to themselves.
Now, to understand Evolution, you'd need to know Cellular Biology, Genetics, Anatomy, Genealogy, Palaeontology, Environment, Atomic Chemistry, and most importantly Taxonomy. I doubt you're knowledgeable in any of these feilds.
Justaddbacon 3 years ago
I'll try to break it down for you.
Each living being has something called DNA, which carries their genetic code. Now how DNA became to be is still under dispute, but we don't need to know that to understand Evolution. If a species lives in an environment where its helpful to run really fast, then naturally the fast species will thrive and continue to devellope, while other species will either adapt or migrate to a more suitable environment.
Continued...
Justaddbacon 3 years ago
Now you might notice that you may have more in common with your siblings then with your peers, and that people from certain ethnic groups and countries have certain features others may not. Eventually this diversity will continue further and further until there one group cannot reproduce with the other.
This is when they're seperate species. Its happened with Chimps and Humans, and with every other species out there. Some primates cannot mate with others, we're one of them. This isn't chance.
Justaddbacon 3 years ago
The living creatures found in the strata belonging to the Cambrian period emerged all of a sudden in the fossil record-there are no pre-existing ancestors.The fossils found in Cambrian rocks belonged to snails, trilobites,sponges,earthworms,jellyfish,sea hedgehogs,and other complex invertebrates. This wide mosaic of living organisms made up of such a great number of complex creatures emerged so suddenly that this miraculous event is referred to as the"Cambrian Explosion"in geological literature
wallidjan 3 years ago
When terrestrial strata and the fossil record are examined, it is to be seen that all living organisms appeared simultaneously. The oldest stratum of the earth in which fossils of living creatures have been found is that of the Cambrian, which has an estimated age of 500-550 million years.
wallidjan 3 years ago
With dating that far back, it becomes rather difficult to be acurate. Even yourself pointed out that the Cabrian fossils appeared to be between 500-550 million years, that's a give or take 50 million years (which many adaptations can take place).
The Cambrian Explosion was a sudden growth in evolution, the species were adapting at rates much faster then ourselves, thriving with the nessessary chemicals to make life possible.
If this is your evidence of God, then I hope you live a happy life...
Justaddbacon 3 years ago
Allah tells us He is Al-Bari, (The Shaper or Evolver) but once again, this does not mean He has a need to bring about each individual life form all from one kind. Actually, while reading the Quran you learn He has brought many types and shapes and sizes as He Wills. Changes within species occur even as quickly as one or two seasons, not even taking a whole year, much less millions as was supposed by Darwin.
wallidjan 3 years ago
But how can you know really know who the Creator is? There are hundreds of religions which one the truth. First of all no one knows what the Creator looks like so must not give Him a image in your mind, but prove to your self that God exists by looking at the creation and reflecting upon it, every second we need oxygen to breath, without food and water we would not survive so the Creator is always looking after us we should at least thank Him by worshiping Him.
wallidjan 3 years ago
You're assuming once again without evidence... poor science and the reason why many scientists dislike Creationists.
How can we know who the Creator is? My thoughts exactly, yet religion so vastly discribes the creator... and his needs... and what he wants. They have no evidence other then a contradictory book of song lyrics, hap-hazards and parables.
If you have any question about Evolution, feel free to ask. I do enjoy passing my knowledge to others... tis a great tool of science.
Justaddbacon 3 years ago
I think the reason people have trouble with evolution is because its hard to wrap your head around 3.8 billion years. (I think thats when life started to take place) Thats a very large number.
In the beggining, you wouldn't no what those early stages were. Would they be life? or just simple reactions. Over vast amount of time, this changed.
rockisdead1946 3 years ago
I just don't understand one thing.
If its impossible that live has start by chance (because cells are complex) , and only a creator could design live. who created the creator?
Or is the cells more complex than the creator?
I just don´t understand.
smms1973 3 years ago
I'd also like to say that if we look back in the history of the world religions HAVE been incorrect about things and these HAVE been acknowledged. How can an intelligent person completely believe in something that led (and still leads some!) people to murder and maim others is beyond me. Yes the bible says not to kill, but people distort things which is partially what is happening now! If God loves you wouldn't he want to to learn and discover for yourself and find nuances in His world?!
lykkeli11 3 years ago
Simply because cells are complex does not prove that God created them. Most persons who do not believe in God do not completely believe that cells just appeared on Earth by chance. Yes, cells and DNA are amazing. Yes, they are extremely intriguing and awesome. Because of this many people are choosing to use reason and their brains to discover truths and ideas instead of relying on old 'knowledge' to explain away. The world progresses because of this, not regresses.
lykkeli11 3 years ago 3
It doesn't matter how many times creationist are corrected they still come out with the same old fallacious claims and spurious logic.
The theory of evolution does not state how life began or that 'things' happened by chance, neither does it say that it was coincidence.
No one claims that DNA emerged by chance also the you can fit it ALL onto ONE DVD.
The false dichotomy of balancing the theory of evolution against a deity is unproven.
You have no evidence to back ANY of claims of a deity.
mattblackcat 3 years ago