@callofthewild76 What a laugh. when your argument is exposed you want to run away and hide in a peevish huff. What a sissies you Mohammedans are. We kicked you buts at Poitier, Granada, Vienna twice, Belgrade, and Leponto 1571. That is when Our Lady was given the title "Our Lady of Victory. Ali Pasha curse be upon him had his head on a spike. Praise be to Jesus Lord of all creation. Amen
@callofthewild76 Yes you hate. we are commanded by God to love one another and to love our Enemy. Our duty is to fight and kill our enemy if necessary but Those who love their enemy are infinity better than savages who hate others. This is why we will always prevail because God is our strength. Islam is a religion that is good not to practice when it causes you to feel superior to your countrymen who do not practice it. Only persons that are insecure in life try to coheres others to obey
@callofthewild76 that Antichrist Mohamed was no prophet in that he was a carnal man Laying wast to spiritual thing for the sake of his lust, having the gall to call Christians idolaters for worshiping the True God and giving honor and reverence to His Mother Mary Most Holy and Gate of Paradise. This because His words which you reject give life. In dead you love death as we love Eternal life. The last thing you will see are Marines coming to gather up your remains for burial at sea to feed fish.
Mohammedans are wild asses who ponder a poorly written Book to no good end. They give reign to every vice within the fallen human spirit with out remedy. This is coupled with an overlay of raging intellectual and spiritual Pride making them a danger to themselves and to others.
@callofthewild76 I know that you people hate dogs. that is why we use them to hunt you down. I am glad that you cower when you see a dog. The dog is more brave than you who send 8 year old girls to die as unsuspecting martyrs for your hellish beliefs.
@callofthewild76 say what you will they are filthy bearded bums in dirty night shirts., rats No that is unfair to the rat. sorry. the rat doesn't recruit children to become suiciders.
@ Islamopeadophile. Yeah, right, ever heard of the new convenant dickhead. We, the civilised, have left this shit hundreds of years ago. Islam still to this day advocates and practices it. WTF man/Woman. Islam is a cancer on the human race, it's stuck 1400 years ago. fucking get a brain and use it genious!
Remember the words of Jesus "He who is without sin cast the first stone". Remember that it takes two for adultery, They had the woman where was the man? If they said she was caught in the act.?
@jaaagosto Now ur bible contradicts it self again!Gospels have so much fabrication IT'S CLEAR IT HAS BEEN DISTORTED n is MISLEAD the truth of God with confusion n God is not confusion!Yet when the Quran is clearly showing Christians the wrongs from right, Christians deny it!Jesus was not a god nor was he son of god Jesus was SENT by God! Jesus is created by God(is this too hard 4 god to do) like he created Adam n the universe he commanded "be" n "it was" God doesn't reproduces,thats paganism!
And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
islam is totally darkness without the light=JESUS CHRIST
Im an atheist, and I think that ALL books that call for the murder of others are immoral, Holy Bible and Quran alike. Lets grow up and call these ancient texts mythology already.
I do agree that the god of the Holy Bible is more vile than Allah.
There is no stoning in the Quran, It's only in the Bible. In fact the Quran 24:2-5 specify that the punishment is 100 lashes and there has to be four witnesses testifying against the accused, basically God just want to stop public pornography, if sinners don't brag and don't tempt others then that's their choice, God will judge them later but just don't make it public. Also God told us not to marry the adulterer and the adulteress, clearly that means they are alive after the punishment.
The Law given Moses IS completed in Messiah. This is NOT 'religion' To Father Creator- there are NO religions. Truth, the 'Creating' Power- Life- cogniscence ! Eternal Pure Dimensions Death- is the nature of our universe. The Law represents this nature in word. and the requirements to keep a certian People chosen for through whom, by this universes' nature and physical laws the Messiah would 'travel' and be born- To die, as we all must... Then re-live. Fathers' own' Dimension'
Your comment to the video: "No where in the Qur'an does it advocate honor killings, unlike the bible..." Now just collate the number of honor killings committed by Muslims to that of members of any other religion. So?
The fact that its also in the bible does not make it any less fucked up. If anything its an argument against both religions and the fact that it was written in caves by ordinary retrograde MEN
Please tell me something how come if the Quran is the word of the allmighty God is it that you always lose everything. You would expect the God of the infidels to be less good at shit wouldnt you. Please look at you brain for answers THINK! Instead of looking for reasons to kill each other in "holy" books
the fact is any "holy" book that has murder, slavery, degrading females, human and animal sacrifice and other evil crap in it in any amount or form, I as an Intelligent being will definitely not embrace.... all organized religion's are depressing carp and is only for excepted by fearful and lame minds with very low self esteem..
Rly? Where do Muslims practice their religion nowadays? I think you need to read more about Muslim countries, they're almost more secular than the West now.
bulshit!!!!, is that why my friends mom (who is muslim) could not leave iraq because she was devorced in australia , every day she was called a whore by the public men and women and was thretend to be stoned!?
it may be "secular" as YOU say but the people are still medieaval minded!
the west is way civil^ than that (leaving religion alone)
Wait, are you saying that Islam states that divorced women should be stoned? How did she go to Iraq if she was divorced in Australia? Why wasn't she stoned yet? And do you realize that Iraq is under American occupation?
Heck, that story doesn't make any sense. Come up with a better one next time.
I think you'd be really, really pissed if the Islamic world acted as "civil" as the West. Start imagining bombs killing thousands in "collateral damage" and millions starved by UN sanctions. Mm, civil
I think its funny how Muslims always play the victim when they are pushed into a corner and fed the bullshit they feed everyone else. "Imagining bombs blah blah" I grew up in Rio de Janeiro which was one of the most violent and dangerous cities in the world, you dont see me or any brasilian blame anyone for what went on there. There is one flaw that Islam doesn't teach its pupils, and that is how to be a man and except responsibility for his or her own actions instead of blaming everyone else.
How did our own actions cause colonization and occupation of Western powers to Islamic countries? Are you going to claim annihilating red indians and australian aboriginals was their fault too? What about WWI and WWII, was it Muslims' fault too?
You need to stop blaming colonization. It was inevitable. If the world changes, everyone in it must change. Islamic law doesn't work, it never has and it never will. Its like taking a step backwards into time. How can you respect a society that doesnt even respect itself. Nobody is different, we all die the same. Nobody is going to remember a man who kills himself to take others with him. They are just going to be remembered as a hero to very few and a coward to all.
What do you mean "Islamic law doesn't work"? That's one of the most ridiculous statements I've read, let alone coming from a Western dude (who might very well be a Christian believing in Biblical laws)
Tell me, does the Western system work? Does throwing people in prison for decades and decades work? Did it end crime? Are Westerns happy?
Besides, EVEN IF our it doesn't work, how does this give you the right to loot, pillage, and kill? Do you even have an argument or are you just trolling?
Im not a christian, and democracy does work otherwise the entire world wouldn't have a democracy. Your trying to argue something that you cant even argue about. If Islamic law works then why do so many countries in the middle east recent it? what about Mohamed Farrah Aidid ? He starved his own people to death and manslaughtered hundreds? or even Ayman al-Zawahiri? how many people in Africa where butchered to death by Islamic leaders? thats my point
You act like Muslims are the most innocent people on the face of the earth and my whole point is they are no different from an American, European, or Canadian. Everyone is the same. Its just a matter of time until you grow up and face facts.
belive what you want to belive!, i dont care anymore, its people like you that start wars, when your so up your religion, without religion there would be no wars!!!, + you said that iraq is under american occupation, so if the wer not there they would carry on with there murdering law!, get another look at this mess!
Sir, you need to refresh your sources and also please donot judge a religion by its black sheep. Rather a religion should be judge by its Holy book and prophet... Now When I read the bible, I was shocked to find verse Genesis 19:30 which no decent man can read to his family,wife or kinds. I refuse to believe its the word of God but rather the Scribes how had corrupted it and are misleading thousands.
That's not honor killing. It works against confessing males and females.
FYI, the four witnesses need to see the sexual act itself not just "two people under the covers". AFAIK, there hasn't been ONE case of such testimony in the whole Islamic history. They need to be doing it in the street y' know?
I can show you a Hadith where an adulterer was ordered to be stoned by Muhammad. She was put to death, it said nothing about 4 witnesses. But yet apparently Aisha comitted adultery, and Muhammad claimed her innocence, because of the whole 4 witnesses rule. Complete bullshit imo im saying this as a muslim. The whole notion of 100 or 80 lashes. Why does Islam always have numbers? 5 times a day, 19 angels guarding the fire i happen to be 19, each men will have "two" wives in Paradise. lol
That's why I said "confessing". That woman (and there was a man too) CONFESSED. They went there literally asking him to stone them Please provide proof that Aisha committed adultery by your next post. Otherwise don't post here again. Islam has lots of numbers? At least it doesn't tell us not to eat four-legged insects, especially when, sadly, all of them happen to have six legs. Check my channel Oh, also check Genesis 6:3 Gen 7:24 Gen 18:28 Gen 23:15 Deu 25:3 Prov 17:10 2Cor 11:24 Hypocrite.
No WikingCrusader is talking bout Muslims as pedo n bla.bla...bla.....he's trying to change the topic......coz he knows that christianity is not the truth...read ur bible dumbass!
yes where the barbarians , we are the ones who worship a family of gods , we are the one who think that its ok to cheat but not to get married , we are the ones who think that the pope ( who is a senile man who likes to touch kids like most of your priests ) is god on earth , open your eyes
Of course it is ok to have sex with any consenting adult, married or not married, why not? Why should YOU decide what OTHER people should be allowed to do? are you God?
I don't worship the pope or any other religious figure.
Islam and Catholocism are filled with perverted peadophiles. Muhammed married an 8 year old girl, many muslim men marry girls younger than 14 (SICK).
at least the christians stopped stoning people, only the barbaric muslims do that now. Shame on you for supporting this!
your sad , you live on thinking that there is no god , you will know that all the likes of you were wrong once you die , i hop that YOU see the light , i feel sorry for your soul that will burn in hell.
See, once again you pretend to be God by telling other people what will happen to them. Impersonating God is a much more serious offence than having sex in most religions.
I see that you refuse to condemn the peadophile practises within your religion and the stoning of women and children. Shame on you!
i am not saying i am god ( i am far from saying that ) , what i am saying , is what allah tolled us will happen to those who walk the dark path
y should i condemn it , god tolled us , if she became a woman , and they she accepts to be married then go ahead . i want to thank you for being kinda polite not like the other haters
U mentioned that "at least christians stopped stoning ppl n not being barbaric anymore just by stoning people"?
so, u AGREE that the bible talks abt stoning ppl? so if u agree, then y aren't u following god's instructions??
That's the problem with u christians n jews, u twist n turn ur holy books n only choose whichever 'word of god' that u feel comfortable with n has benefit for u........there's always a reason y god sent down those revelations....pitty jesus for loving u.....thy traitor!
the thing you don't understand is that the bible has a new testament and the new testament is written that the one that will confese there sins with true heart is forgiven!so stoning is not aloud anymore!!My goog Jesus told us the one who slaps you one the cheek give the other one !!! so May God forgive you because you don't know where you are talking about
Why don't you justify your own holy book instead of attacking some other desert book? Saying that Christianity is just as bad do not justify stoning, treating women as 2nd class humans or marrying underage girls.
the 21 centrey west desided who is under age , its not up to you or the west to say that , i am not saying '' just as bad '' , our book is the word of allah , there is no humnma book equall to it . 1- stoning just like hanging is a bunshment ( it goes for men and women ) 2- they have the same rights as the man ,
You are very very sick, defending marrying children like Muhammed did. Do you like 8 year old girls as well? You are a peadophile.
You also defend stoning and hanging, what a horrible set of beliefs. This is why I hope my government stop accepting muslims into our country, you still live in the middle ages.
Why is it ok to marry an 8 year old girl, but wrong to sleep with a 25 year old woman you are not married to? Can you explain this to me without quoting some old desert book?
If the correct set of morals is justifying awful behaviour by pointing to some old book, then yes I have no morals and I'm happy about that. You are just like a communist or Nazist who justify anything your dear leader has written. If the Quran told you to eat people, would you do that as well? Why don't you use your head and think. An 8 year old girl is not ready for marriage, anyone should be able to understand that. Stoning people to death is not a morale act no matter how you justify it.
our god the most merciful , would not harm us in any way , if its a bad thing then he would not allow it , he did not allow to marry girls who did not reach puberty , but he gave that permission to mohamed ( peace be upon him ) but he did not complete his marriage until she was 12
And speaking of Nazis, I made a vid comparing Hitler to "un-nazi" Western leaders. You can see it on the right (now it's the fourth from the top). Enjoy.
Gee, I answered all your arguments before even hearing them. You guys repeat the same old useless stuff.
An 8 yr old isn't ready for marriage? Ha! As if a MALE is ready for marriage BY ANOTHER MALE.
Ha? So you think an 8 year old is ready for marriage then? What a sick man you are.
I couldn't care less what two consenting adult males do to eachother, but marrying and having sex with children like Ezldor confirm that mohamed the pedo did is sick and disturbing.
I dunno what's the big deal about "consenting adults", why does the word "adults" belong here? Oh wait, coz the law says so. And the law is infallible right?
FIY, in Islam you can't force a girl to marry someone against her will. So whether she's 8, 18, or 80, she agreed to have this man as a husband. So it's none of your business.
I've had it with brainwashed simple minded islamophobic propaganda consumers who can't think for themselves (hey, that was actually a very good statement!)
It does when you realize that the world can live by rules other than those decided by the (corrupt AND stupid) congress. And live a good life for that purpose.
How just or sensible are the Western laws in your opinion?
Although this government has demonized islam unjustly. I do not agree at this moment with "proving" Islam over any other religion. People WILL find the Divine Creator through various means and rather than advocating Islam we should advocate humanity for the next couple of years will prove to be very difficult for the survival of "people", I say let us ALL unite, Christians, Muslims, New Age. For who's to say the message of light was just as bright through multiple translations?
after all, men corrupts everything, and spins everything into their favor, GOD is WITHIN all the people, He who shows you a plan of creation and of PASSING is not in any book as it stands, he is not in a structure, HE IS LOVE, and HE is ALL but one must choose to love or deny love.
Loki, the Islamic point of view of Christianity and Judaism (and perhaps quite a number of other religions) is that they ORIGINALLY had the very same message. But generation after generation that message got distorted (for example, council of Nicea ~325 CE completely messed Christianity up).
Islam is the 'true' religion because its message and holy book weren't changed. Not because it advocates a different/better theological concept (monotheism).
The Baháí point of view of Christianity, Judaism and Islam is that they ORIGINALLY had the very same message. But generation after generation that message got distorted .
See? Either your religion is outdated too (compared to the Baháí faith), or your religion is just a pointless johnny come late version of the original (judaism). I guess this is why you persecute the poor Baháís.
lol ya these guys are freaking us out using our own argument!!
But seriously speaking, I read about the Bahai faith and tried to find any evidence these folks have for their validity, and the result was zero.
On the other hand, the Qur'an has tons of evidence (I demonstrate quote a few in my vids), so I'll gladly stay a Muslim until someone comes with a stronger proof.
many thanks for the video again and our prophet mohammed said in hadeeth that one day everybody will be against us ( muslims) and everybody will hate us . he knew that and ofcourse allah told him and thats whats really happening now so i dont care what anybody says, allah is the one and only god
AFAIK this verse turned out to be a fabrication since it wasn't in the Codex Sinaiticus (the oldest complete Bible, dating ~325 CE).
Besides, why does it matter what Jesus did? Even if we assume Jesus abolished the law (which he explicitly said he did not), you agree that this was God's divine law for at least 1500 yrs (between Moses & Jesus).
Oh yes, WE are the ones who come up with new scriptures. Which reminds me, did you read the New-enhanced-improved-standard-international-Qur'an-version lately?
No it does NOT render this claim obsolete as jesus declared the existence of "the righteous" and "sinners" - he was telling "sinners" not to stone - in addition to this he also clearly states "i have NOT come to destroy the law but to ENFORCE" - this INCLUDES stoning to death. He said "NOT ONE JOT OR TITLE OF THE LAW SHALL FAIL" - that's EVERY LAW AND EVERY PENALTY
and personally I think good on God for introducing stoning to death for the wicked - quite seriously I do- God is God - so don't question him. Christianity today is such a joke - it's all talk and far too soft
That makes sense. Islam endorses stoning in case of adultery too. I just find it amazing that we're blamed for things in the Bible! (I made several vids on that issue, with voice this time:)
Mat 5:17+"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest...
Let us see what the Quran says about women. It says "men have a degree (of advantage) over them" 2:228 ; that the witness of woman is worth half of that of man 2:282; that women inherit half of their male siblings, 4:11-12; that a man can marry two or three or four women 4:3; that if a women becomes captive in a war, her Muslim master is allowed to rape her 33:50; that if a woman is not totally submissive to her husband she will enter Hell 66:10;
We know it for a fact that the harsh punishment of "stoning to death" prescribed in the Torah for the sin of adultery, to purge the prevailing evil from the Israel (Deuteronomy 22: 24), was basically invalidated by Christ. When Jesus was questioned by the scribes and the Pharisees concerning the Command of Moses for stoning, Jesus gave his famous noteworthy response; "Let anyone among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone."
Given so many changes in the bible, last of them (which I know) was throwing the trinity verse in 1 John 5:7 as a fabrication; nothing can be trusted. I also read that this verse wasn't in the Codex Sinaiticus, which is the oldest complete bible from ~325 CE.
But it doesn't matter. We both agree that AT LEAST for 1500 years, that was God's law. Will you say that God "wasn't merciful" during that time?
There are more than 100 verses in the Qur'an advocating the use of violence to spread Islam. In the Qur'an, Allah commands Muslims, 'Take not the Jews and Christians as friends....Slay the idolaters [non-Muslims] wherever ye find them.... Fight against such...as believe not in Allah...' (Surah 5:51; 9:5,29,41, etc..). Though most Muslims would shrink from obeying such commands, this is official Islam and it cannot change without admitting that Muhammad was a false prophet and murderer."
Throughout the Bible we find the fingerprints of a supernatural message system. Numerous design features in the Biblical text defy coincidence and demonstrate that the Bible, which consists of sixty-six books penned by forty authors over thousands of years, is an integrated message system. Astonishing evidence has gradually accumulated in the fields of archaeology, astronomy, physics which confirm...cont.
66 books? Not if you're Catholic. They're 73 books in that case!
I think you wanna make A VIDEO about that topic, not a couple of comments. I made a video called "Bible & Science" to show that what you're saying is essentially nonsense. Go post there. Stop spamming :)
Though some of the Apocryphal books do have historical value, giving information regarding the inter-testament "quiet years" prior to the coming of Christ, there is no justification for giving these a place in the Holy Scripture. Their proper place is on the same level as (if not lower than) the writings of the historian Josephus or of some other uninspired writer of that period.
P.S. The Apocryphal books are a fairy tale just like your Quran!
The Quran clearly teaches Allah created the heavens, the earth and the universe, as to the exact number of days they were created in is not completely clear. Surah 32;4, says they were created in six days, while Surah 41:9, 12 say Allah created them in two days.
cont..the scientific and historical accuracy of the Bible, the supernatural origin of it's text , and the fact that it has been preserved and virtually unchanged for over two thousand years. No other Holy Book on planet earth authenticates it's message in these ways!
The Bible was written over a period of thousands of years by over 40 authors, from different social backgrounds, and at different times in history. The 61 prophecies of the birth, life, death, and resurrection, being met in one man alone is impossible odds. All of the writers were correlating scriptures over that period of time would be impossible today even with computers and the scriptures were all hand written!
There are many other evidences that prove that the Bible is not just a fabrication. The two million references of historical evidence of the Bible and 195.00 references to archaeological evidence, on the Internet more appearing everyday, take your pick. And now the dead sea scrolls also. And the impact of the word of GOD is unparalleled to anything in history!
That's silly, I never said it was a fabrication. The Quran itself confirms "The Torah" and "The Injeel". The question is: Does what we have today is the original Torah & Injeel? The answer is no :)
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." (John 8:7) Why don't you add this to your bible then?
the quran have no stoning punishment at all...most of shariah law of today is plagarized from the bible. muslims are the best judeochristians ever. man, osama bin laden is totally joshua.
What does it matter if the koran advocates it? Muslims are the only ones who do it! And in the bible jesus says "let those WITHOUT sin cast the first stone."
Ya Jesus also said "Love your enemy", and "do not resist evil", I can see you doing that too, extensively.
PS. I read that the verse you mentioned is not in the Codex Sinaiticus. In other words it has been added later, just like many things in the gospels. He said he did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
Why do you say 'you' when you mention christianity. I am not a christian - i do not pray to inventions of man, but i am a student of mythology - which is both christianity and islam.
i hope you know that the jewish stoning was not practising like the islamic stoning. In the jewish stoning (which was very very rare practiced) they throw the guilty man/woman from a high wall, when he was alive then it was allowed to stone. Islamic stoning is going different they are doing it very often and burrow a ditch and then they will stoned with stones that are smaller then apples. So its a different between islamic and jewish stoning. Muhammed said jesus was muslim and all this crap ...
My argument is with what is practiced today. You bring up the kkk and the nazi's, but they are not mentioned in your video. Typical that you refute my comments on stoning with the actions of others. why not simply say that you think it is wrong also? you did not, and therefore you dodge the issue and convince me further of your indifference to morality, not to mention you seem to think stoning is right.
But Islamic stoning isn't rare? FIY, to stone someone in Islam we need to have 4 witnesses for the SEXUAL ACT ITSELF. i.e. impossible unless he was having sex with her on the beach or on TV! (the other alternative is confession)
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Hey moron NO Christian or Jewish nation still practices it. THAT'S the difference you idiot. Pull your head out of your bronze age ass and catch up with the times. Actually why don't you catch up to the real times and finally be done with your mythology. And that goes for all religious delusional people.
So your idea is that we should judge a religion by its followers not its teachings? Very well...
Are the KKK, Nazis, Republicans, Crusaders, Colonists, Communists, all muslims? If we're gonna adopt that measure it'll be much worse for you: Christians and Atheists committed far worse crimes than Muslims.
Dessert God? What are you a confectioner or something?
And atheists/seculars hate to admit this but they do have EVEN STUPIDER laws since they need to resort to human legislation.
Everybody needs codes to run a society: We get our codes from God, you get them from your stupid brain, which is why you keep on updating every so often realizing 'this was bad' and 'this lead to that so we should abolish it'.
Which reminds me, I haven't stoned any women today. brb
The nice thing about talking with ppl here is that I learn something new about Islam everyday. First they say "moon god" and now you're saying "dessert god". In case you meant "desert" god then no, we don't have a desert god and a forest god. Go read before you speak, darn it!
And about your alleged intelligence, God, or "evolution" created the intelligence of the ant too. Does this mean you have the same IQ of it? I personally think it's much smarter, but still.
if you want to go back look at the crimes of muslims too. we are pissed because muslims continue to do the worst shit in the world. And when other religions do horrible things, the rest of that religion condemns it, but when muslims get called out, they don't condemn the actions of radicals, they defend them - like you are now you demon.
Only muslims view this as a holy war, it is the only way they can motivate their people to fight (and fight poorly). the ME states have warred on and off for a century over oil amongst themselves, and we are demonized because you think we are there for oil. I don't give a damn about oil, I just don't want another generation of violence junkies terrorizing the world in the name of 'allah' the god of peace and pedophile prophets.
Riiiiiiiiiight, my grandma must've lied to me when she said that Bush called it "a crusade" and "islamofascists".
Btw, just coz you don't "officially" say it's a religious war, doesn't acquit you of a rediculously-clear accusation. Bush says God speaks to him, so does McCain. So give me a break. It IS a religious war, among other things.
For "pedophile prophets", watch my "Pedophilia in the bible" video, and "Muhammad Aisha" vid in favorites.
i dont care about pedophillia in the bible, so what? You make many assumptions yet again. Having met people on both sides of this war I can tell you, US soldiers don't care about religion. Whatever you say will will ring false as I have experienced this war close hand, and my experience will influence my thoughts on this war, not your regurgitation of the media.
and which of these people - kkk, nazis, crusaders, colonists 'crimes' were committed in the name of god? Do christians not call them blasphemers and sinners for their crimes? Muslims don't appologize or rebuke their radical followers, they glorify them, and come up with weak arguments like this. You don't care as long as everyone else looks worse than you, islam will never say they were wrong, only that everyone else was. your god is false, go kill yourself.
muslims always talk against terrorists, but the media doesnt show it. and its weird really. I dont think YOU ever were at a protest saying "i dont support kk, nazis, and crusaders" you just expect other members of your group to protest against these, then u can go "ahh, look, OUR people speak against this stuff!" even though you yourself are sitting at a comp. dont get me wrong, u prolly might have protested in pub, but im speaking generally
yes i am speaking generally, and no, the kkk and nazis are not part of my 'group.' I don't see many crusaders around these days, and I also don't see the nazis and kkk killing people much these days. I do see muslims celebrating violence, and not giving a damn what everyone else thinks of their so called god until someone draws a cartoon, despite their own newspapers publishing cartoons and editorials about evil jews. send me an email address i will show you my published anti kkk article.
Coz the CIA bombed the WTC, the other "terrorism" is against foreign occupation.
Look here for "9/11 coincidences" (in my favorites' first-page too), and join some 2 million people who know the truth.
I'd like to remind you that Taliban offered Osama IF the US shows them their "crystal-clear evidence" that he did it. And I assume you know what happened next.
IslamoPhilic, So what if stoning is or isn't in anyone's holy writings. Point is that even if it is in Jewish or Christian writings, no Jews or Christians have done it for 1000s of yrs.? On the other hand, let's say you're right about the Quran (let us say that it isn't even in the Hadith, too). Point is that there are many Muslims for whom this is a living part of their religion, and it occurs even today. Just how many in Islam fight against it? You don't seem to be doing much about it.
You don't need to assume; it's not in the Hadeeth. And the Quran's requirements for proving adultery is virtually impossible: 4 witnesses have to see the EXPLICIT SEXUAL ACT. That would never happen unless the couple did it on the beach or something.
2ndly, are you concerned about the followers' practices or the theology? Theology I just presented. In practice, the Xians probably killed more women in Afghanistan last month than all Muslim honor killings last year!
typical argument - "they did it a thousand years ago, so we can do it now."
So a thousand years from now while alduturing christians are wandering around, they can point to the koran and say "we read it in the koran, we can sleep around on our wives as long as she is my slave." and muslims will say "oh, yeah, its cool."
Wrong is wrong, stop using mythological texts to justify your carnal desires.
"God told them to do it a thousand years ago, but now we know better than God. So let's abolish his laws and f*** up everything by inventing our own legislation"
Hmm, I think "they did it a 1000 yr ago so we can do it now" is better 68W. For me at least.
PS. Watch my "polygamy in the bible" or "Quran vs Bible" vid. They'll give you a lot of hints if you're into comparative religion. Islam is much less sexist in fact.
Leviticus 24:14 - "Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him.
Leviticus 24:16 -anyone who blasphemes the name of the Lord must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death
LOOK! i found more verses from the bible about stoning, thats not the onli one,:
Leviticus 20:2
"Say to the Israelites: 'Any Israelite or any alien living in Israel who gives any of his children to Molech must be put to death. The people of the community are to stone him.
Leviticus 20:27 - "'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.
lol thanks Vindi. From the current rating (3 stars) it doesn't look like many are sharing this view.
Anyway, I don't want Xians/Jews to think I'm criticizing the OT, because I'm not. I'm merely saying that "you're criticizing us for what YOU have in your book"
YEa true that, maybe you can edit your vid and add the references that i gave you to them which makes it a stronger arguement that people might share..
religion sucks
HannoverFisk 1 week ago
@callofthewild76 What a laugh. when your argument is exposed you want to run away and hide in a peevish huff. What a sissies you Mohammedans are. We kicked you buts at Poitier, Granada, Vienna twice, Belgrade, and Leponto 1571. That is when Our Lady was given the title "Our Lady of Victory. Ali Pasha curse be upon him had his head on a spike. Praise be to Jesus Lord of all creation. Amen
uncatila 7 months ago
@callofthewild76 Yes you hate. we are commanded by God to love one another and to love our Enemy. Our duty is to fight and kill our enemy if necessary but Those who love their enemy are infinity better than savages who hate others. This is why we will always prevail because God is our strength. Islam is a religion that is good not to practice when it causes you to feel superior to your countrymen who do not practice it. Only persons that are insecure in life try to coheres others to obey
uncatila 7 months ago
@callofthewild76 that Antichrist Mohamed was no prophet in that he was a carnal man Laying wast to spiritual thing for the sake of his lust, having the gall to call Christians idolaters for worshiping the True God and giving honor and reverence to His Mother Mary Most Holy and Gate of Paradise. This because His words which you reject give life. In dead you love death as we love Eternal life. The last thing you will see are Marines coming to gather up your remains for burial at sea to feed fish.
uncatila 7 months ago
Mohammedans are wild asses who ponder a poorly written Book to no good end. They give reign to every vice within the fallen human spirit with out remedy. This is coupled with an overlay of raging intellectual and spiritual Pride making them a danger to themselves and to others.
uncatila 8 months ago
@callofthewild76 I know that you people hate dogs. that is why we use them to hunt you down. I am glad that you cower when you see a dog. The dog is more brave than you who send 8 year old girls to die as unsuspecting martyrs for your hellish beliefs.
uncatila 8 months ago
@callofthewild76 say what you will they are filthy bearded bums in dirty night shirts., rats No that is unfair to the rat. sorry. the rat doesn't recruit children to become suiciders.
uncatila 8 months ago
Fucking Islam, the hideaway for perverts, just like Catholicism.
rnm1011 8 months ago
@ Islamopeadophile. Yeah, right, ever heard of the new convenant dickhead. We, the civilised, have left this shit hundreds of years ago. Islam still to this day advocates and practices it. WTF man/Woman. Islam is a cancer on the human race, it's stuck 1400 years ago. fucking get a brain and use it genious!
rnm1011 8 months ago
Yeah but............do you know any country where this is legal?
yourfaceandmum 9 months ago
they don't stone their women, coz they are smart enough to know it's wrong.
loony855 10 months ago
Yeah, those crazy Christians, always going around stoning people.
Oh... Wait...
AntiStupidity 1 year ago
Remember the words of Jesus "He who is without sin cast the first stone". Remember that it takes two for adultery, They had the woman where was the man? If they said she was caught in the act.?
jaaagosto 1 year ago
@jaaagosto Now ur bible contradicts it self again!Gospels have so much fabrication IT'S CLEAR IT HAS BEEN DISTORTED n is MISLEAD the truth of God with confusion n God is not confusion!Yet when the Quran is clearly showing Christians the wrongs from right, Christians deny it!Jesus was not a god nor was he son of god Jesus was SENT by God! Jesus is created by God(is this too hard 4 god to do) like he created Adam n the universe he commanded "be" n "it was" God doesn't reproduces,thats paganism!
moeazysgc 1 year ago
@moeazysgc
And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
hannahr77 11 months ago
@moeazysgc
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
hannahr77 11 months ago
@moeazysgc
When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more. Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
islam is totally darkness without the light=JESUS CHRIST
hannahr77 11 months ago
and couz Muslem only people who is do what ever God order .....
the Other hypocrites get mad !!!
pulman7 1 year ago
@IslamoPhilic Try reading the Gospel of John 7:53-8:11, the story of the adulteress. It contains one of Jesus' most famous lines.
anonymous11441144 1 year ago
Im an atheist, and I think that ALL books that call for the murder of others are immoral, Holy Bible and Quran alike. Lets grow up and call these ancient texts mythology already.
I do agree that the god of the Holy Bible is more vile than Allah.
ripticdu 1 year ago 2
Is it any wonder we worry about these people having easy access to plutonium?
davidls11 1 year ago
THE QURAN DOES NOT HAVE STONING PRESCRIBED FOR ANY REASON!!!
STONING IS CONDEMMED IN THE QURAN AND REFERED TO AS A PEGAN PRACTICE....
seamr05 1 year ago
There is no stoning in the Quran, It's only in the Bible. In fact the Quran 24:2-5 specify that the punishment is 100 lashes and there has to be four witnesses testifying against the accused, basically God just want to stop public pornography, if sinners don't brag and don't tempt others then that's their choice, God will judge them later but just don't make it public. Also God told us not to marry the adulterer and the adulteress, clearly that means they are alive after the punishment.
helasmoh 1 year ago
hi there, am a muslim !! and am not a native speaker !! but i was amazed by ur answeres to those who replyed to ur vid !!
i hold a great respect for you !! God bless you
Maho0oy91 1 year ago
SittingMooseShaman 1 year ago
Your comment to the video: "No where in the Qur'an does it advocate honor killings, unlike the bible..." Now just collate the number of honor killings committed by Muslims to that of members of any other religion. So?
generalhubbub 1 year ago
The fact that its also in the bible does not make it any less fucked up. If anything its an argument against both religions and the fact that it was written in caves by ordinary retrograde MEN
Please tell me something how come if the Quran is the word of the allmighty God is it that you always lose everything. You would expect the God of the infidels to be less good at shit wouldnt you. Please look at you brain for answers THINK! Instead of looking for reasons to kill each other in "holy" books
jlc012 1 year ago
It because Judaism and Christianity are Moderate and Muslims are Fanatics.
Carteld2 1 year ago
Jesus 'he among you who is without sin, let him caste the first stone'
no one is able to caste the first stone because no one is without sin.
we humans can only strive to be like Jesus who was perfect.
oshea1111able 1 year ago
@oshea1111able
Jesus said; 'he among you who is without sin, let him caste the first stone'
no one is able to caste the first stone because no one is without sin.
we humans can only strive to be like Jesus who was perfect.
oshea1111able 1 year ago
The answer is we dont stone people lmao islam muslims still do lmao we evolved you never!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
onabreeze 1 year ago
the fact is any "holy" book that has murder, slavery, degrading females, human and animal sacrifice and other evil crap in it in any amount or form, I as an Intelligent being will definitely not embrace.... all organized religion's are depressing carp and is only for excepted by fearful and lame minds with very low self esteem..
richsexyass17 2 years ago
yes this may be true but muslim stoning is in law today
christians dont stone people still like muslims!!!!!!!
giulio123 2 years ago
Rly? Where do Muslims practice their religion nowadays? I think you need to read more about Muslim countries, they're almost more secular than the West now.
IslamoPhilic 2 years ago
bulshit!!!!, is that why my friends mom (who is muslim) could not leave iraq because she was devorced in australia , every day she was called a whore by the public men and women and was thretend to be stoned!?
it may be "secular" as YOU say but the people are still medieaval minded!
the west is way civil^ than that (leaving religion alone)
giulio123 2 years ago
Wait, are you saying that Islam states that divorced women should be stoned? How did she go to Iraq if she was divorced in Australia? Why wasn't she stoned yet? And do you realize that Iraq is under American occupation?
Heck, that story doesn't make any sense. Come up with a better one next time.
I think you'd be really, really pissed if the Islamic world acted as "civil" as the West. Start imagining bombs killing thousands in "collateral damage" and millions starved by UN sanctions. Mm, civil
IslamoPhilic 2 years ago
I think its funny how Muslims always play the victim when they are pushed into a corner and fed the bullshit they feed everyone else. "Imagining bombs blah blah" I grew up in Rio de Janeiro which was one of the most violent and dangerous cities in the world, you dont see me or any brasilian blame anyone for what went on there. There is one flaw that Islam doesn't teach its pupils, and that is how to be a man and except responsibility for his or her own actions instead of blaming everyone else.
Vegathetruth 2 years ago
How did our own actions cause colonization and occupation of Western powers to Islamic countries? Are you going to claim annihilating red indians and australian aboriginals was their fault too? What about WWI and WWII, was it Muslims' fault too?
Dude you're weird.
IslamoPhilic 2 years ago
You need to stop blaming colonization. It was inevitable. If the world changes, everyone in it must change. Islamic law doesn't work, it never has and it never will. Its like taking a step backwards into time. How can you respect a society that doesnt even respect itself. Nobody is different, we all die the same. Nobody is going to remember a man who kills himself to take others with him. They are just going to be remembered as a hero to very few and a coward to all.
Vegathetruth 2 years ago
What do you mean "Islamic law doesn't work"? That's one of the most ridiculous statements I've read, let alone coming from a Western dude (who might very well be a Christian believing in Biblical laws)
Tell me, does the Western system work? Does throwing people in prison for decades and decades work? Did it end crime? Are Westerns happy?
Besides, EVEN IF our it doesn't work, how does this give you the right to loot, pillage, and kill? Do you even have an argument or are you just trolling?
IslamoPhilic 2 years ago
Im not a christian, and democracy does work otherwise the entire world wouldn't have a democracy. Your trying to argue something that you cant even argue about. If Islamic law works then why do so many countries in the middle east recent it? what about Mohamed Farrah Aidid ? He starved his own people to death and manslaughtered hundreds? or even Ayman al-Zawahiri? how many people in Africa where butchered to death by Islamic leaders? thats my point
Vegathetruth 2 years ago
You act like Muslims are the most innocent people on the face of the earth and my whole point is they are no different from an American, European, or Canadian. Everyone is the same. Its just a matter of time until you grow up and face facts.
Vegathetruth 2 years ago
belive what you want to belive!, i dont care anymore, its people like you that start wars, when your so up your religion, without religion there would be no wars!!!, + you said that iraq is under american occupation, so if the wer not there they would carry on with there murdering law!, get another look at this mess!
giulio123 2 years ago
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Vegathetruth 2 years ago
lol
the project of new american century
take control of middle east oil producing
with or without religion
war still going on
watch 9/11 coincidences from part 1 to the rest on youtube.
and again Islam is all to blame for the terrorism in the world
sowhatsowhatsowhattt 2 years ago
@vegathetruth.....you are so right!...in my eyes muslim men are not even real men...the are whiny little girls
richsexyass17 2 years ago
Sir, you need to refresh your sources and also please donot judge a religion by its black sheep. Rather a religion should be judge by its Holy book and prophet... Now When I read the bible, I was shocked to find verse Genesis 19:30 which no decent man can read to his family,wife or kinds. I refuse to believe its the word of God but rather the Scribes how had corrupted it and are misleading thousands.
ultimatech1 2 years ago
Muhammad ordered for the adulterrs to be stoned to death if there are 4 witnesses
sheptropremix 2 years ago
That's not honor killing. It works against confessing males and females.
FYI, the four witnesses need to see the sexual act itself not just "two people under the covers". AFAIK, there hasn't been ONE case of such testimony in the whole Islamic history. They need to be doing it in the street y' know?
IslamoPhilic 2 years ago
I can show you a Hadith where an adulterer was ordered to be stoned by Muhammad. She was put to death, it said nothing about 4 witnesses. But yet apparently Aisha comitted adultery, and Muhammad claimed her innocence, because of the whole 4 witnesses rule. Complete bullshit imo im saying this as a muslim. The whole notion of 100 or 80 lashes. Why does Islam always have numbers? 5 times a day, 19 angels guarding the fire i happen to be 19, each men will have "two" wives in Paradise. lol
sheptropremix 2 years ago
IslamoPhilic 2 years ago
no where in Quran stoning is mentioned can you bring one verse
Noor 24:2 read it you'l come to know what is punishment for prostitution
Inocenthope 2 years ago
No WikingCrusader is talking bout Muslims as pedo n bla.bla...bla.....he's trying to change the topic......coz he knows that christianity is not the truth...read ur bible dumbass!
mooze87 2 years ago
I made a video ONLY about pedophilia in the Bible so people like him would shut up but it's no use
IslamoPhilic 2 years ago
Gr8 video, brief and to the point :) thanx bro, 5*
noonamr 2 years ago
i dont have the time or the speace to tell you how great mohammed is ( peace be upon him )
Ezldor 2 years ago
But I do! Watch my Animals Rights in Islam vid :)
IslamoPhilic 2 years ago
lol , loved the pic in the end
Ezldor 2 years ago
Do anyone justify stoning by refering to the bible? NO!
Do anyone justify stoning by refering to the Quran INCLUDING islamic scholars and leaders?
YES!
Islamic world today= europe 1000 years ago.
Its time to stop apologizing to them and start demanding that they stop acting like barbarians.
WikingCrusader 2 years ago
yes where the barbarians , we are the ones who worship a family of gods , we are the one who think that its ok to cheat but not to get married , we are the ones who think that the pope ( who is a senile man who likes to touch kids like most of your priests ) is god on earth , open your eyes
Ezldor 2 years ago
Of course it is ok to have sex with any consenting adult, married or not married, why not? Why should YOU decide what OTHER people should be allowed to do? are you God?
I don't worship the pope or any other religious figure.
Islam and Catholocism are filled with perverted peadophiles. Muhammed married an 8 year old girl, many muslim men marry girls younger than 14 (SICK).
at least the christians stopped stoning people, only the barbaric muslims do that now. Shame on you for supporting this!
WikingCrusader 2 years ago
your sad , you live on thinking that there is no god , you will know that all the likes of you were wrong once you die , i hop that YOU see the light , i feel sorry for your soul that will burn in hell.
Ezldor 2 years ago
See, once again you pretend to be God by telling other people what will happen to them. Impersonating God is a much more serious offence than having sex in most religions.
I see that you refuse to condemn the peadophile practises within your religion and the stoning of women and children. Shame on you!
WikingCrusader 2 years ago
i am not saying i am god ( i am far from saying that ) , what i am saying , is what allah tolled us will happen to those who walk the dark path
y should i condemn it , god tolled us , if she became a woman , and they she accepts to be married then go ahead . i want to thank you for being kinda polite not like the other haters
Ezldor 2 years ago
U mentioned that "at least christians stopped stoning ppl n not being barbaric anymore just by stoning people"?
so, u AGREE that the bible talks abt stoning ppl? so if u agree, then y aren't u following god's instructions??
That's the problem with u christians n jews, u twist n turn ur holy books n only choose whichever 'word of god' that u feel comfortable with n has benefit for u........there's always a reason y god sent down those revelations....pitty jesus for loving u.....thy traitor!
mooze87 2 years ago
the thing you don't understand is that the bible has a new testament and the new testament is written that the one that will confese there sins with true heart is forgiven!so stoning is not aloud anymore!!My goog Jesus told us the one who slaps you one the cheek give the other one !!! so May God forgive you because you don't know where you are talking about
krawota 2 years ago
The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of the Lord stands forever 1Peter 1:24-25
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them Mat 5:17
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness 2Tim 3:16
It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law Luk 16:17
Not so clever with the Bible now are we?
IslamoPhilic 2 years ago
Why don't you justify your own holy book instead of attacking some other desert book? Saying that Christianity is just as bad do not justify stoning, treating women as 2nd class humans or marrying underage girls.
WikingCrusader 2 years ago
the 21 centrey west desided who is under age , its not up to you or the west to say that , i am not saying '' just as bad '' , our book is the word of allah , there is no humnma book equall to it . 1- stoning just like hanging is a bunshment ( it goes for men and women ) 2- they have the same rights as the man ,
Ezldor 2 years ago
You are very very sick, defending marrying children like Muhammed did. Do you like 8 year old girls as well? You are a peadophile.
You also defend stoning and hanging, what a horrible set of beliefs. This is why I hope my government stop accepting muslims into our country, you still live in the middle ages.
Why is it ok to marry an 8 year old girl, but wrong to sleep with a 25 year old woman you are not married to? Can you explain this to me without quoting some old desert book?
WikingCrusader 2 years ago
its very hard to make you understand , you the one with no morals.
Ezldor 2 years ago
If the correct set of morals is justifying awful behaviour by pointing to some old book, then yes I have no morals and I'm happy about that. You are just like a communist or Nazist who justify anything your dear leader has written. If the Quran told you to eat people, would you do that as well? Why don't you use your head and think. An 8 year old girl is not ready for marriage, anyone should be able to understand that. Stoning people to death is not a morale act no matter how you justify it.
WikingCrusader 2 years ago
our god the most merciful , would not harm us in any way , if its a bad thing then he would not allow it , he did not allow to marry girls who did not reach puberty , but he gave that permission to mohamed ( peace be upon him ) but he did not complete his marriage until she was 12
Ezldor 2 years ago
And speaking of Nazis, I made a vid comparing Hitler to "un-nazi" Western leaders. You can see it on the right (now it's the fourth from the top). Enjoy.
Gee, I answered all your arguments before even hearing them. You guys repeat the same old useless stuff.
An 8 yr old isn't ready for marriage? Ha! As if a MALE is ready for marriage BY ANOTHER MALE.
IslamoPhilic 2 years ago
Ha? So you think an 8 year old is ready for marriage then? What a sick man you are.
I couldn't care less what two consenting adult males do to eachother, but marrying and having sex with children like Ezldor confirm that mohamed the pedo did is sick and disturbing.
WikingCrusader 2 years ago
I dunno what's the big deal about "consenting adults", why does the word "adults" belong here? Oh wait, coz the law says so. And the law is infallible right?
FIY, in Islam you can't force a girl to marry someone against her will. So whether she's 8, 18, or 80, she agreed to have this man as a husband. So it's none of your business.
I've had it with brainwashed simple minded islamophobic propaganda consumers who can't think for themselves (hey, that was actually a very good statement!)
IslamoPhilic 2 years ago
I like the fact that 17 year old "children" magically turn into an 18 year old "adult" over night. LOL
ninja7654 2 years ago
You're in the wrong vid dude. I made a one about pedophilia in the Bible especially for smart a**es like you who think they've got it all.
Click me.
IslamoPhilic 2 years ago
It does when you realize that the world can live by rules other than those decided by the (corrupt AND stupid) congress. And live a good life for that purpose.
How just or sensible are the Western laws in your opinion?
IslamoPhilic 2 years ago
Although this government has demonized islam unjustly. I do not agree at this moment with "proving" Islam over any other religion. People WILL find the Divine Creator through various means and rather than advocating Islam we should advocate humanity for the next couple of years will prove to be very difficult for the survival of "people", I say let us ALL unite, Christians, Muslims, New Age. For who's to say the message of light was just as bright through multiple translations?
LokiMatrix3V 2 years ago
after all, men corrupts everything, and spins everything into their favor, GOD is WITHIN all the people, He who shows you a plan of creation and of PASSING is not in any book as it stands, he is not in a structure, HE IS LOVE, and HE is ALL but one must choose to love or deny love.
LokiMatrix3V 2 years ago
Loki, the Islamic point of view of Christianity and Judaism (and perhaps quite a number of other religions) is that they ORIGINALLY had the very same message. But generation after generation that message got distorted (for example, council of Nicea ~325 CE completely messed Christianity up).
Islam is the 'true' religion because its message and holy book weren't changed. Not because it advocates a different/better theological concept (monotheism).
IslamoPhilic 2 years ago
The Baháí point of view of Christianity, Judaism and Islam is that they ORIGINALLY had the very same message. But generation after generation that message got distorted .
See? Either your religion is outdated too (compared to the Baháí faith), or your religion is just a pointless johnny come late version of the original (judaism). I guess this is why you persecute the poor Baháís.
WikingCrusader 2 years ago
lol ya these guys are freaking us out using our own argument!!
But seriously speaking, I read about the Bahai faith and tried to find any evidence these folks have for their validity, and the result was zero.
On the other hand, the Qur'an has tons of evidence (I demonstrate quote a few in my vids), so I'll gladly stay a Muslim until someone comes with a stronger proof.
IslamoPhilic 2 years ago
What congress? Are you on crack or something?
If your definition of a good life is to marry and rape children then no, i have no intention of listening to any of your pedo propaganda.
WikingCrusader 2 years ago
So much for the freedom of speech lol
Oh wait, but the Bible said... ok nevermind
IslamoPhilic 2 years ago
many thanks for the video again and our prophet mohammed said in hadeeth that one day everybody will be against us ( muslims) and everybody will hate us . he knew that and ofcourse allah told him and thats whats really happening now so i dont care what anybody says, allah is the one and only god
jasmine999555 3 years ago
Oh they hate us from day one. The new thing is that we're not doing anything about it (other than youTubing, that is :)
IslamoPhilic 2 years ago
Jesus said:"let he who is without sin, cast the first stone"(John 8:2-11) so this renders your claim obsolete.
secondly why do you need to criticize the bible and Christianity?to justify your faith in the Koran and God? this is HARAM
ATMleb 3 years ago
AFAIK this verse turned out to be a fabrication since it wasn't in the Codex Sinaiticus (the oldest complete Bible, dating ~325 CE).
Besides, why does it matter what Jesus did? Even if we assume Jesus abolished the law (which he explicitly said he did not), you agree that this was God's divine law for at least 1500 yrs (between Moses & Jesus).
If Moses did it, why can't we?
Let alone that it's NOT in the Qur'an anyway!!!!!
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
you muslims make me laugh desperate enough that you start coming up with new scriptures to get your arguments.
ATMleb 3 years ago
Oh yes, WE are the ones who come up with new scriptures. Which reminds me, did you read the New-enhanced-improved-standard-international-Qur'an-version lately?
LoL
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
No it does NOT render this claim obsolete as jesus declared the existence of "the righteous" and "sinners" - he was telling "sinners" not to stone - in addition to this he also clearly states "i have NOT come to destroy the law but to ENFORCE" - this INCLUDES stoning to death. He said "NOT ONE JOT OR TITLE OF THE LAW SHALL FAIL" - that's EVERY LAW AND EVERY PENALTY
yepliketeddy 3 years ago
and personally I think good on God for introducing stoning to death for the wicked - quite seriously I do- God is God - so don't question him. Christianity today is such a joke - it's all talk and far too soft
yepliketeddy 3 years ago
That makes sense. Islam endorses stoning in case of adultery too. I just find it amazing that we're blamed for things in the Bible! (I made several vids on that issue, with voice this time:)
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
may God bless you;)
krawota 2 years ago
what verse and chapter in Quran promotes stoning? may you please provide it?
cancerish 3 years ago
There isn't one!
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
Under Jesus those kinds of Old Testament laws became obselete.
fashionhistorylover 3 years ago
The word of the lord stands forever 1 Pet 1:25
"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness"
2 Timothy 3:16
It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law.
Luke 16:17
Mat 5:17+"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest...
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
Let us see what the Quran says about women. It says "men have a degree (of advantage) over them" 2:228 ; that the witness of woman is worth half of that of man 2:282; that women inherit half of their male siblings, 4:11-12; that a man can marry two or three or four women 4:3; that if a women becomes captive in a war, her Muslim master is allowed to rape her 33:50; that if a woman is not totally submissive to her husband she will enter Hell 66:10;
frenchyo7 3 years ago
I made a vid comparing women in Quran vs Bible. Please DARE to post this comment there and see what happens :)
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
So when was the last time you saw or heard that christan ppl excuting anyone with stones??
dania1ff 3 years ago
With stones? Not lately, but with bombs, a couple of weeks ago they bombed tens of women and children in Afghanistan.. AGAIN.
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
We know it for a fact that the harsh punishment of "stoning to death" prescribed in the Torah for the sin of adultery, to purge the prevailing evil from the Israel (Deuteronomy 22: 24), was basically invalidated by Christ. When Jesus was questioned by the scribes and the Pharisees concerning the Command of Moses for stoning, Jesus gave his famous noteworthy response; "Let anyone among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone."
(John 8 : 7).
frenchyo7 3 years ago
Given so many changes in the bible, last of them (which I know) was throwing the trinity verse in 1 John 5:7 as a fabrication; nothing can be trusted. I also read that this verse wasn't in the Codex Sinaiticus, which is the oldest complete bible from ~325 CE.
But it doesn't matter. We both agree that AT LEAST for 1500 years, that was God's law. Will you say that God "wasn't merciful" during that time?
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
Jesus wasn't sent to earth until after Noahs Flood!...That's why you're not going to find it in the O.T. Does that make sense?
frenchyo7 3 years ago
Umm, did you think Moses was sent before the flood? I think you've been skipping Sunday school.
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
Muslims and Catholics are cousins!
There are many similarities between Islam and the Vatican!!
Both religions believe in using FORCE to spread their version of the one true god to the unbelievers.
Both religions believe in a union with the state or of using the police powers of the state to compel obedience to their tenets.
Both religions have a "holy" shrine in which the believers are taught to look to as their headquarters e.g. Mecca and the Vatican.
frenchyo7 3 years ago
There are more than 100 verses in the Qur'an advocating the use of violence to spread Islam. In the Qur'an, Allah commands Muslims, 'Take not the Jews and Christians as friends....Slay the idolaters [non-Muslims] wherever ye find them.... Fight against such...as believe not in Allah...' (Surah 5:51; 9:5,29,41, etc..). Though most Muslims would shrink from obeying such commands, this is official Islam and it cannot change without admitting that Muhammad was a false prophet and murderer."
frenchyo7 3 years ago
Throughout the Bible we find the fingerprints of a supernatural message system. Numerous design features in the Biblical text defy coincidence and demonstrate that the Bible, which consists of sixty-six books penned by forty authors over thousands of years, is an integrated message system. Astonishing evidence has gradually accumulated in the fields of archaeology, astronomy, physics which confirm...cont.
frenchyo7 3 years ago
66 books? Not if you're Catholic. They're 73 books in that case!
I think you wanna make A VIDEO about that topic, not a couple of comments. I made a video called "Bible & Science" to show that what you're saying is essentially nonsense. Go post there. Stop spamming :)
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
Though some of the Apocryphal books do have historical value, giving information regarding the inter-testament "quiet years" prior to the coming of Christ, there is no justification for giving these a place in the Holy Scripture. Their proper place is on the same level as (if not lower than) the writings of the historian Josephus or of some other uninspired writer of that period.
P.S. The Apocryphal books are a fairy tale just like your Quran!
frenchyo7 3 years ago
The Quran clearly teaches Allah created the heavens, the earth and the universe, as to the exact number of days they were created in is not completely clear. Surah 32;4, says they were created in six days, while Surah 41:9, 12 say Allah created them in two days.
frenchyo7 3 years ago
cont..the scientific and historical accuracy of the Bible, the supernatural origin of it's text , and the fact that it has been preserved and virtually unchanged for over two thousand years. No other Holy Book on planet earth authenticates it's message in these ways!
frenchyo7 3 years ago
The Bible was written over a period of thousands of years by over 40 authors, from different social backgrounds, and at different times in history. The 61 prophecies of the birth, life, death, and resurrection, being met in one man alone is impossible odds. All of the writers were correlating scriptures over that period of time would be impossible today even with computers and the scriptures were all hand written!
frenchyo7 3 years ago
There are many other evidences that prove that the Bible is not just a fabrication. The two million references of historical evidence of the Bible and 195.00 references to archaeological evidence, on the Internet more appearing everyday, take your pick. And now the dead sea scrolls also. And the impact of the word of GOD is unparalleled to anything in history!
frenchyo7 3 years ago
That's silly, I never said it was a fabrication. The Quran itself confirms "The Torah" and "The Injeel". The question is: Does what we have today is the original Torah & Injeel? The answer is no :)
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." (John 8:7) Why don't you add this to your bible then?
frenchyo7 3 years ago
even the jews today that keep bragging about the eternal covenant dont even follow it.
xrami69 3 years ago
Does this make them "nice people" and make the Muslims barbarians?
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
it makes them pseudojews and make muslims the jews. weird.
xrami69 3 years ago
the quran have no stoning punishment at all...most of shariah law of today is plagarized from the bible. muslims are the best judeochristians ever. man, osama bin laden is totally joshua.
xrami69 3 years ago
Osama bin Laden is totally a dead American agent!!!!
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
What does it matter if the koran advocates it? Muslims are the only ones who do it! And in the bible jesus says "let those WITHOUT sin cast the first stone."
68W2M072 3 years ago
Ya Jesus also said "Love your enemy", and "do not resist evil", I can see you doing that too, extensively.
PS. I read that the verse you mentioned is not in the Codex Sinaiticus. In other words it has been added later, just like many things in the gospels. He said he did not come to abolish but to fulfill.
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
Why do you say 'you' when you mention christianity. I am not a christian - i do not pray to inventions of man, but i am a student of mythology - which is both christianity and islam.
68W2M072 3 years ago
I assumed you're a Christian. If you're not then you shouldn't be arguing for/against either sides, get outta here :)
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
i hope you know that the jewish stoning was not practising like the islamic stoning. In the jewish stoning (which was very very rare practiced) they throw the guilty man/woman from a high wall, when he was alive then it was allowed to stone. Islamic stoning is going different they are doing it very often and burrow a ditch and then they will stoned with stones that are smaller then apples. So its a different between islamic and jewish stoning. Muhammed said jesus was muslim and all this crap ...
Boltor 3 years ago
Oh wow WHAT A HUGE DIFFERENCE!! I'm gonna start thinking that Muslims are FAR WORSE than Jews, thanks for the tip dude.
PS. "Muslim" = "Submitter" (to God). Bother to read the interpretation before complaining.
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
My argument is with what is practiced today. You bring up the kkk and the nazi's, but they are not mentioned in your video. Typical that you refute my comments on stoning with the actions of others. why not simply say that you think it is wrong also? you did not, and therefore you dodge the issue and convince me further of your indifference to morality, not to mention you seem to think stoning is right.
68W2M072 3 years ago
But Islamic stoning isn't rare? FIY, to stone someone in Islam we need to have 4 witnesses for the SEXUAL ACT ITSELF. i.e. impossible unless he was having sex with her on the beach or on TV! (the other alternative is confession)
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
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Hey moron NO Christian or Jewish nation still practices it. THAT'S the difference you idiot. Pull your head out of your bronze age ass and catch up with the times. Actually why don't you catch up to the real times and finally be done with your mythology. And that goes for all religious delusional people.
Dumb ass theists.
netwolf 3 years ago
So your idea is that we should judge a religion by its followers not its teachings? Very well...
Are the KKK, Nazis, Republicans, Crusaders, Colonists, Communists, all muslims? If we're gonna adopt that measure it'll be much worse for you: Christians and Atheists committed far worse crimes than Muslims.
Moron.
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
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I judge anything that it's main component is blind faith. Sorry a book isn't proof of anything.
So go ahead and keep stoning women and applying your Sharia law and believing in your dessert tribe sky god.
netwolf 3 years ago
Dessert God? What are you a confectioner or something?
And atheists/seculars hate to admit this but they do have EVEN STUPIDER laws since they need to resort to human legislation.
Everybody needs codes to run a society: We get our codes from God, you get them from your stupid brain, which is why you keep on updating every so often realizing 'this was bad' and 'this lead to that so we should abolish it'.
Which reminds me, I haven't stoned any women today. brb
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
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yes he is a dessert God isn't he? I mean there are so many to choose from ya know, just like in a bakery.
Stupid brain? Wait a minute didn't God create my brain? So what does that make him?
Wait before you stone that woman you mentioned can I have that cool bee keeper suit you make them wear?
netwolf 3 years ago
The nice thing about talking with ppl here is that I learn something new about Islam everyday. First they say "moon god" and now you're saying "dessert god". In case you meant "desert" god then no, we don't have a desert god and a forest god. Go read before you speak, darn it!
And about your alleged intelligence, God, or "evolution" created the intelligence of the ant too. Does this mean you have the same IQ of it? I personally think it's much smarter, but still.
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
if you want to go back look at the crimes of muslims too. we are pissed because muslims continue to do the worst shit in the world. And when other religions do horrible things, the rest of that religion condemns it, but when muslims get called out, they don't condemn the actions of radicals, they defend them - like you are now you demon.
68W2M072 3 years ago
Yah, the terrible muslims kill foreign forces on their land while the good Christians continue to help rid the world of terrorism.
The muslims vote for a crazy maniac who thinks God told him to kill the-already-dead Osama.
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
Only muslims view this as a holy war, it is the only way they can motivate their people to fight (and fight poorly). the ME states have warred on and off for a century over oil amongst themselves, and we are demonized because you think we are there for oil. I don't give a damn about oil, I just don't want another generation of violence junkies terrorizing the world in the name of 'allah' the god of peace and pedophile prophets.
68W2M072 3 years ago
Riiiiiiiiiight, my grandma must've lied to me when she said that Bush called it "a crusade" and "islamofascists".
Btw, just coz you don't "officially" say it's a religious war, doesn't acquit you of a rediculously-clear accusation. Bush says God speaks to him, so does McCain. So give me a break. It IS a religious war, among other things.
For "pedophile prophets", watch my "Pedophilia in the bible" video, and "Muhammad Aisha" vid in favorites.
You're very, very mislead by the media.
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
i dont care about pedophillia in the bible, so what? You make many assumptions yet again. Having met people on both sides of this war I can tell you, US soldiers don't care about religion. Whatever you say will will ring false as I have experienced this war close hand, and my experience will influence my thoughts on this war, not your regurgitation of the media.
68W2M072 3 years ago 2
and which of these people - kkk, nazis, crusaders, colonists 'crimes' were committed in the name of god? Do christians not call them blasphemers and sinners for their crimes? Muslims don't appologize or rebuke their radical followers, they glorify them, and come up with weak arguments like this. You don't care as long as everyone else looks worse than you, islam will never say they were wrong, only that everyone else was. your god is false, go kill yourself.
68W2M072 3 years ago
muslims always talk against terrorists, but the media doesnt show it. and its weird really. I dont think YOU ever were at a protest saying "i dont support kk, nazis, and crusaders" you just expect other members of your group to protest against these, then u can go "ahh, look, OUR people speak against this stuff!" even though you yourself are sitting at a comp. dont get me wrong, u prolly might have protested in pub, but im speaking generally
drgonboyx 3 years ago
yes i am speaking generally, and no, the kkk and nazis are not part of my 'group.' I don't see many crusaders around these days, and I also don't see the nazis and kkk killing people much these days. I do see muslims celebrating violence, and not giving a damn what everyone else thinks of their so called god until someone draws a cartoon, despite their own newspapers publishing cartoons and editorials about evil jews. send me an email address i will show you my published anti kkk article.
68W2M072 3 years ago
You don't see many crusaders these days? I think you should watch the nightly News and you'll find a lot of them, promise.
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
Yah I've seen 20 million Americans protesting against the NATO bombing of 90 Afghani civilians (incl 60 children) last Friday.
Give me a break.
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
yes argue my statements with "well you didnt do this" yet again, typical. I can play that game too.
I didn't see muslims protest... well... anything... except danish cartoons.
68W2M072 3 years ago
Coz the CIA bombed the WTC, the other "terrorism" is against foreign occupation.
Look here for "9/11 coincidences" (in my favorites' first-page too), and join some 2 million people who know the truth.
I'd like to remind you that Taliban offered Osama IF the US shows them their "crystal-clear evidence" that he did it. And I assume you know what happened next.
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
See there you go again making statements that reveal your idiocy. You are a pathetic human being.
ThunderAppeal 3 years ago 2
IslamoPhilic, So what if stoning is or isn't in anyone's holy writings. Point is that even if it is in Jewish or Christian writings, no Jews or Christians have done it for 1000s of yrs.? On the other hand, let's say you're right about the Quran (let us say that it isn't even in the Hadith, too). Point is that there are many Muslims for whom this is a living part of their religion, and it occurs even today. Just how many in Islam fight against it? You don't seem to be doing much about it.
12ut5 3 years ago
You don't need to assume; it's not in the Hadeeth. And the Quran's requirements for proving adultery is virtually impossible: 4 witnesses have to see the EXPLICIT SEXUAL ACT. That would never happen unless the couple did it on the beach or something.
2ndly, are you concerned about the followers' practices or the theology? Theology I just presented. In practice, the Xians probably killed more women in Afghanistan last month than all Muslim honor killings last year!
Are you doing much about it?
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
IslamoPhilic is right. Even Jesus did not clearly argue against the Bible atrocity :
"I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
bushgam 3 years ago
Thx bushgam. And to any moron who's gonna claim Jesus opposed those teachings, I'm gonna help you with a couple of quotes:
"The grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of the Lord stands forever." 1 Peter 1:24-25
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them" Mat 5:17
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness 2 Tim 3:16
Leave Islam alone please.
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
typical argument - "they did it a thousand years ago, so we can do it now."
So a thousand years from now while alduturing christians are wandering around, they can point to the koran and say "we read it in the koran, we can sleep around on our wives as long as she is my slave." and muslims will say "oh, yeah, its cool."
Wrong is wrong, stop using mythological texts to justify your carnal desires.
68W2M072 3 years ago 2
Oh ok, let's try another way:
"God told them to do it a thousand years ago, but now we know better than God. So let's abolish his laws and f*** up everything by inventing our own legislation"
Hmm, I think "they did it a 1000 yr ago so we can do it now" is better 68W. For me at least.
PS. Watch my "polygamy in the bible" or "Quran vs Bible" vid. They'll give you a lot of hints if you're into comparative religion. Islam is much less sexist in fact.
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
Leviticus 24:14 - "Take the blasphemer outside the camp. All those who heard him are to lay their hands on his head, and the entire assembly is to stone him.
Leviticus 24:16 -anyone who blasphemes the name of the Lord must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death
vindiesel000 3 years ago
LOOK! i found more verses from the bible about stoning, thats not the onli one,:
Leviticus 20:2
"Say to the Israelites: 'Any Israelite or any alien living in Israel who gives any of his children to Molech must be put to death. The people of the community are to stone him.
Leviticus 20:27 - "'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.
vindiesel000 3 years ago
lol thanks Vindi. From the current rating (3 stars) it doesn't look like many are sharing this view.
Anyway, I don't want Xians/Jews to think I'm criticizing the OT, because I'm not. I'm merely saying that "you're criticizing us for what YOU have in your book"
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
YEa true that, maybe you can edit your vid and add the references that i gave you to them which makes it a stronger arguement that people might share..
Goodluck
vindiesel000 3 years ago
What are you talking about dude? Look at my page, I made a whole video dealing with harsh laws, terrorism, and sexism in the bible!
IslamoPhilic 3 years ago
man, welldone.. good stuff
vindiesel000 3 years ago
Oh! Just to sum it up, you're attacking Islam by attacking Old Testament.
It's the funny side of the faithless and ignorant militant "fashion-Muslims"!
CrusaderOfFreeSpeech 3 years ago
Yeah, your nick qualifies you to talk about militant Muslims alright, pigeon.