AMOS 5:8 THE SEVEN STARS IS PLEIADES AND ORION IS "BEFORE THE LORD" (which is known as Nimrod) and christians believe they are different than those that worshipped Gods from the stars.. haha.. the Bible is saying the exact same thing as the ancient egyptians, hopi native americans, mayans, babylonians, greeks, aztecs, dogon and all other ancestors from long ago. Its time to wake up sheeple! GENESIS 10:8-12 (SARGON OF AKKAD.. INVESTIGATE!)
it warped my perspective and what it think about it. the universe. infinity. 1 % of infinity is still infinit. so 10 % is infinity x 10? . its all about paradox. ( infinite multiple perspectives) who is to say we are alone. we may be small. unbelvably small. or even huge. no one knows what we are. rational questions smack belivers in the face
@tisilwm "So 10% is infinity x 10?" No, it is just infinity. Infinity is limited and limitless at the same time. It is like a hotel thats rooms are all booked, but it can always find an empty room for new guests.
@tisilwm ;-) It should be noted that I stole that hotel example from an example made by Lawrence Krauss during the Q&A of a lecture he once gave. I thought it was quite good and sequestered it for future use.
@tisilwm If I had an infinite number of boxes (all numbered--don't ask how), and they all had objects inside them, and you came in with an infinite number of other items to put in boxes, I could take all the objects out of my boxes (again, don't ask how), multiply each number by 10, and put it in the new boxes (numbered 10, 20, 30, etc.). You could then put your infinity of items in boxes 1-9, 11-19, 21-29, etc. It would still total infinity with enough room for all of them.
@shanedk but thats just a theory. infinity . it might be just an understatement on our actual reality. and most likely is. sure our physical rhealm could go on to be something only comprehendable and physicly imajinative after death. for no one really knows. reality is something your expierience your self. in your own perspective. thinking and molding your subconcious mind to send you where you desirv to go when your time comes.reality. and the fact we are "mind and matter" just be rational.
@tisilwm Actually, infinities are real. That's how the Casimir Effect works: the infinity of particles between the two plates (their frequencies being a multiple of half the distance between them) is smaller than the infinity of particles outside, and the result is measurable pressure!
@shanedk that dosnt give me any insite whats so ever. mabey im just ignorent. then again people get mad about that. i seen that curiosity show with steven hawking and its pretty intense. and leave almost the other half ot the universe un touched. infinity is most likely real. but we cannot see beyond our horizon. so how are we to conclude. all we can do is expieience reality in our perspective.
@tisilwm Well, that's the problem: the more science gets away from areas of everyday human experience--the things our little monkey-brains actually evolved to be able to deal with--the more difficulty we have conceptualizing what's going on. Don't worry, it's not just you.
I think it was Richard Feynman who said, "If you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understand quantum mechanics."
@tisilwm And even without changing the rest of the scenario, I could put all mine in the even boxes and yours in the odd, or I could put all mine in the prime-numbered boxes and yours in the non-primes. Infinity is VERY difficult to wrap your head around.
@shanedk Conveniently, our generation was given the opportunity to apply the concept of infinity to a practical purpose in the form of infinite ammo codes in video games. :-P
Another way to show that astrology is bullshit is by reversing the process. Instead of determining the signs and characteristics of a child after birth, you decide which characteristics you want your child to have and with a bit of help of modern medicine you can get your child to be born in the right time for those characteristics to apply. Even the most fierce astrologer would say this is impossible.
this was a perfect video! and i think this is why youtube should be design for. Entertaining and educating the public. Thank you for uploading, this was truly enlightening.
@IwillhonorGod It's "my video" that has almost 9,000 comments! What makes you think it's easy to sort out which of your posts responds to which comment just because I'm the one that posted the original video?
@shanedk well you were just telling me the other day, how you seem to think you know some thing. Sorting comments should not be to hard.
look you caught the comment just like I intended that you would, stop worrying about it. Even if you do miss a comment big deal. You don't have to respond to ever body, I sure don't, I don't think I could if I tried, I would be on computer all day, and I got other things to do.
Chuck Missler talks on this. I think the tittle is, ether cosmic codes, or mystery of the planet mars.....ah, I will look it up for you here. Ya mystery of the planet mars. the other one might talk about it also.
even I have heard it said, there was some book that was written, I think, I could be wrong, but with in like 50 or 100 years before telescopes were made. I can't think of the authors name, some body swift, wrote this book, drawing on some legends of this time, when mars was close, and from the legends, there is talked about a moon or 2 moons.
So the significance of that, is that, they were not discovered, these moon or moons, till the invention of the telescope.
@IwillhonorGod Considering that Phobos and Deimos would be almost indistinguishable from background stars even from the Martian surface, you'll forgive me if I consider this "prediction"--even if it does exist and is interpreted correctly--is anything other than a lucky guess.
I mean, really--it's not like you can't just download Stellarium for free and see for yourself!
I have heard it said, regarding this event, this is where a lot of myths come from about mars. because in this event, mars would have been so close. I have heard the numbers, how many times bigger than the moon it would have appeared, it is a lot, some thing like 50 if I remember right. So you can imagine, there was some people that were very scared.
@IwillhonorGod 50 times bigger than the moon??? Okay, let's do some math:
The moon is ~400,000km away and 1737km in radius. Mars is ~3390km in radius, which is 1.95 times that of the moon. So, let's round that up to twice the size.
@IwillhonorGod At twice the size. Mars would appear the same size as the moon at twice the distance, or 800,000km. In order for it to appear FIFTY times the size of the full moon, it would have to be 16,000km away--in MIDDLE Earth Orbit, well WITHIN the range of our communications satellites! Do you have ANY idea what that would do to the orbit of both planets???
one point is, God is not bound by time. why? Because He answered there prayer, from the beginning of creation, at the creation of the world, before they existed. That planet, and our planet was put in a precise place, in a precise moment, for his prayer to be answered, on that year, in that day, on that very hour.
Second, BASIC MATH shows you to be talking complete crap. As I just showed, Mars would have to be so close as to be catastrophic. Tides would be THOUSANDS of times the size they are now! Both planets would be flung off into ridiculously elliptical orbits if they didn't collide outright!
You're full of shit. And so is your bullshit religion.
They need some more time. So Joshua prays, I can't just remember the words here, off the top of my head, but basically asks God for some more time, and He gives it to them. And they have enough time to finish the battle, and they win.
@IwillhonorGod Yes, supposedly the Earth stopped spinning on its axis for 24 hours, then started back up again. If that happened, it'd be such a global catastrophe as to make Joshua's little war completely irrelevant.
Of course, back then they believed the Earth stood still and the sun went around it...
@shanedk There may have been some ignorant people in that day. Not nearly as ignorant as you think though. But looking at time, I am sure there will be people in the future that will say, hey those people in this time were morons.
I think some thing that will be said, is, they thought oil came from dinosaurs. They called it fossil fuel back then.
@IwillhonorGod No, no one except ignorant morons thinks oil came from dinosaurs (which makes it VERY embarrassing if you're an oil company that has a dinosaur in your logo...). It came from plants. Plants leave fossils, too, you know.
@IwillhonorGod There's also another story where God moves the sun backwards 10 degrees. Yeah, the Bible has accurate science all the way through it...
@IwillhonorGod The Bible's "science" is PERFECTLY understandable in the light of the ancient Hebrew cosmology. Now we ARE more sophisticated, so we know how pathetically WRONG it is.
Unless you can point us to the firmament. Oh, and explain why none of our space probes have run into it.
ok part 2. Mosses and Aaron, are fighting a battle, I can not think of the name of it. But it is where Mosses has got to hold up his hands, and when he puts them down, there side is loosing, and eventually his arms get tired, and 2 others, (Joshua is the person I missed here), bring him a rock to sit on. and they hold his arms up.
But as the day is coming to an end, that battle is not over, and they need some more time.
also, a kind of side note, rabbit trail, might be worth your time to look up, if your interested is on stone henge, I have heard it said it was a kind of a clock, but it is understandable, how it would not work, if our whole year system was changed. I have heard a lot of theories on stone henge actually.
But on a certain day, at a certain hour, these to planets came to a point, where they equalized, and we gained 5 days in our year. many so called scientists, who do not believe in the bible, believe, that this is how it happened. And also, the 360 degrees we have for circles, this is where this has come from, from the Babylonians.
in 701bc, we went from 360 day years, to 365 day years. mars was on a resonant frequency orbit with earth, so if you don't get that, what that means, is before this year, every time they would pass each other, one would gain some, the other would lose some, and it would go back and forth.
ok, other proofs of the bible. I think, one of the most convincing proofs, that the bible is written by God. well.....I will put this in 2 parts. First as so called scientific people would, that do not have the knowledge of the existence of God.
on a kind of off, topic, I find myself looking at your picture here on your video, of a flat earth, and I know a lot of people want to claim, the bible says the earth is flat, but you sound like you know the original texts, so I would encourage looking in to that, if you happen to have that view.
@IwillhonorGod I did. I REFERENCED them. And I pointed you to a theologian who has detailed data showing quite convincingly that this is what they actually believed. Like all creationist liars, you choose to just ignore the plethora of evidence against you.
dinosaurs were reptiles, and they never stop growing. so, there is a lot to day, that you can go and buy at a pet store, that were basically the same thing. a jackson chameleon is an example.
@IwillhonorGod "dinosaurs...never stop growing" Where did you get THAT insane idea??? Yes, dinosaurs stopped growing when they reached their full height. With some dinosaurs, like Apatosaurus, that was really really tall; others, like Microraptor, were no bigger than a chicken.
@shanedk How are you coming to this conclusion. Man, if you will not think, and like set your mind to understand what I say, but just want to argue about the letter of the law, you are wasting your time....wasting your breath.
There is a lot of things that can be addressed from this water canopy, that is addressed in the bible. says in the bible that people were living to be 900 years old. oldest was 969. And it is known today, that oxygen is a healing agent, and this is why people, and especially older people, use oxygen chambers.
Also, it has been found in sap, bubbles that were 2 times as compressed as our current conditions, and 2 times as much oxygen.
@IwillhonorGod Yes, the lunar calendar results in a 13-month year. 365 days in a year, 28 days in the lunar cycle. Divide and you get just a bit over 13.
But we've all seen how basic math eludes creationists...
The same is with some flying dinosaures, it has been found that they could not fly, in our current conditions, but would have required that the atmosphere would have been, if I remember right, 2 times thicker, aka compressed, which is how it would have been, if there was a water canopy.
it was found that an 80 brontosaurs has the same size nostrils as a horse, and that under these current atmospheric conditions, for that animal to get enough oxygen, it would have to breath so hard, that it would start on fire from the friction of the wind blowing in his nostrils. ok, so that did not happen.
ok, lets start with dinosaurs. a while ago, it was found that under our current atmospheric conditions, a lot of dinosaurs could not exist really, or do what they were designed to do.
@shanedk It does not matter how long you have been doing some thing. Maybe logically you should know some thing, but just because you should, does not mean you do.
But science is a religion to a lot. They use this word, again and agian and again. And they do not really follow the meaning of the word. They make fun of people, and say they do not believe in science, when in reality in most cases, they "KNOW" some thing, these people claiming to know some thing, do not.
The way of science is not to just go with the majority, but it is to look, and to test things out.
If you stick your head in the sand, that is not science.
@IwillhonorGod "But science is a religion to a lot." No, it's not. This is another pathetic creationist LIE.
Science is GENUINE knowledge--or at least the closest human beings can ever come to it. It's certainly come a LOT closer than your idiotic religion has.
Creationists are not against science. To be clear, the clear meaning of the word, which is knowledge gained by observation. And pertaining to thing you can test.
And that is pretty much how every one gains knowledge. I know that a lot of people, want to use some fancy words, so that those, that do not know those fancy words, they have the appearance of being smart, to them.
@IwillhonorGod "To be clear, the clear meaning of the word, which is knowledge gained by observation."
That is NOT the meaning of science. Go learn the basics. Science is the use of inductive reasoning on these observations to be able to make predictions. THAT is how knowledge is gained. And THAT is what you and the other creationists hate.
@shanedk Creationists hate lies. keep changing the meaning of words, and see what understanding you have.
there is lots of online dictionaries, you should be able to find one that is right. But the world is getting full of people that are changing the meaning of words.
@IwillhonorGod "Creationists hate lies." Creationists use NOTHING BUT lies. YOU are the one who used a bogus definition of "science." Then, like all LIARS, you try and deflect from your profound dishonesty by accusing your opposition of doing what you're guilty of.
@IwillhonorGod You weren't talking about the Earth's shape when you said "That's a bad interpretation of The Earth's shape based off of what you say"???
@IwillhonorGod I DID. The word for "firmament," for example, is "raqiya," which means "dome" or "solid expanse." The ONLY way you anti-science fucktards can weasel out of that is by lying about what the Hebrew means, but it still means what it means.
@shanedk stop swearing at me. for your own sake. because your curses are not able to land or sit on me, but they will come back to the head, where they have come out of.
@shanedk well, we will not be the ones that will be bent out of shape. We are only bent out of shape, because, I speak for some, but probably not for all.
Because we know this scripture, which says, all those who bless you, I will bless, and all those who curse you I will curse.
so when you try to curse a christian, that does not work, it will be coming back to you some time.
But in this case, seeing as I have heard it, I say to you, you are forgiven.
@shanedk How do I put this, I am a messenger of God, which, all christians all called to be, when God said, preach the gospel to every creature.
so, Just, I would warn you, that this being that you mock, is mighty. He hears your scoffing, sees your adulteries, and He does not forget any thing. If you do not turn from your wicked ways, to God, you will see His wrath in hell. so TURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@IwillhonorGod A good source for this if you want to read more is Seely, Paul H., "The Firmament and the Water Above," The Westminster Theological Journal 53:227-40, 1991.
Oh, wait, let me guess, he's an extreme liberal leftist activist God-hater, right?
@shanedk I don't know, I never heard of the guy. you tell me. I guess you would have to know God first, before you could say, he hate Him, and what He is about. If He is in line with what the bible says, and speaks truth, He is not a God hater.
But the bible says, all those that hate Me ( God) (from the scriptures, I am not claiming to be God) love death.
@IwillhonorGod Yes, you know the Bible SO well that you can't respond to me or to professional, scholarly theologians on the subject, all of whom agree that the Hebrews believed in a solid dome over the Earth.
If you were an HONEST person, you would KNOW what you're supposed to say at this point. But your ego prevents you.
@shanedk man, you must argue with people a lot. and you must be in this mindset a lot. Because you are trying to argue with me about some thing, that I have not even said is false.
reading from the start here, I can see how maybe you assumed wrong. But you have definitely assumed wrong.
I think you think that I don't believe there was a water canopy over the earth. And so you are expecting me to argue on this, and give some evidence, when I do believe this, and there fore its why I say nothing
@shanedk man did you get what I just said? let me remind you this is a text style of communication, so if you forget, what was said, you can reread it again.
@IwillhonorGod read the whole bible, 1ce you see that "your" god wants 2 eat your children, kill women & children, beat your servants, send babies to eternal hell fire because they weren't baptized, you'll see its a bunch of crap put up together by people that would benefit somehow from it. 4 example, hey this man wants 2 rape the shit out of his servant, as long as she doesn't die the next day, it's ok,& so, he writes a part of the bible. it's more like, the bible doesn't line up with the bible
@TheToxicRadio Your name says it all. ha ha ha ha. I laugh, but it is sad. You are toxic to your self.
ya, if you don't understand justice, you won't understand the bible.
Would I have a right to tell you, what is just, about and concerning your possessions? of course I would not. unless I bought them or made them to begin with.
And this is my point, God made every thing. So He rightfully has authority and power over it.
@IwillhonorGod So, then, you completely excuse God being a selfish, greedy, jealous, mass-murdering, egotistical, maniacal bully and say that this dredge of morality should be the object of our worship?
If what you say is true, then GOD IS EVIL...and so are you.
@shanedk man, you are a jack ass. who would you give your first born son for? and you say God is selfish? give me a break. How many people have spit in God's face, and He has still spoken to them, still healed them, still healed there land, still given them wisdom....your statement is ignorant, very ignorant. imagine that you gave your own families blood away for some one....and then they called you selfish, this is, what you have just done to God.
@IwillhonorGod "who would you give your first born son for?" For no one and nothing. To do so would be an act of EVIL. And ANY being that does so is an EVIL BEING.
There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER of God EVER healing anybody, and CERTAINLY not giving them wisdom since his followers have acted like the biggest jackasses in all of history.
@shanedk How can you accuse God of being greedy? Don't you know that he owns every thing? ha ha ha ha. as I think about it, there is 2 things that come to mind, that God can not take, honor, because it is not honorable to do that. And worship, which comes from free will.
But I would like to hear, you try to explain how some thing has more worth, than some body, that made every thing, and redeemed every one that would accept, by giving His own blood, and buying all those who believe with a price
@IwillhonorGod "How can you accuse God of being greedy? Don't you know that he owns every thing?"
And what if I don't recognize your imaginary friend's claim of ownership? You paint your God to be EXACTLY like a Mafia boss.
And just what the FUCK (yes, there's that terrible collection of syllables that makes you so bent out of shape) do you think that BLOOD has to do with anything good? This is primitive sacrifice, nothing more. It has NO place in modern society.
@shanedk The life is in the blood. So then is life good? It is not as primitive as you think it is, because you do not understand it. You need to think about perfect justice, and substitutionary sacrifices.
@shanedk Argue by the letter of the law if you want. I am sure I could find a way to argue about the use of the letter e. But then I would probably miss the truth of it.
@shanedk Mafia bosses trade blood for money, they do not give there own blood for some one else, not willingly and on purpose.
When you piss these people off, they take vengeance right now, or as soon as they are able, they do not give you time, as God gives us time, for some 60 or 70 years or more.
I think you need to consider ownership and rights.
@shanedk If there was a bank that was in a society, where every one owed a debt to that bank, and the bank said, I have forgiven all debt, just come in here, and we will get the paper work done.
The people that would acknowledge there debts, would surly go in, and get it sorted out.
But the people that would not, would not. And eventually they would repossess what the debt was for, regardless of weather the person believed they had the debt or not.
@IwillhonorGod But what if the bank--or people who claim to be working for the bank but can't provide you any concrete proof that the bank even exists--kept saying that you owe a debt to the bank but can't provide you ANY proof that you ever borrowed money from it?
@shanedk comparing banks with God, to me, it is not the best comparison, being that many banks are not righteous. and many banks are not merciful. As God is perfect in these things, but I think, you will understand this, if you want to.
@shanedk The bible says, it is appointed a man once to die, and then the judgment. I would say this to you, your sin is a debt, to God. And the only way, it can be paid, is in the land of the living, which you have it brought before you, with me, again and again. But I would say, What about interest? on this debt? The bible talks about thieves, If they steal they have to pay so many times as much back.
Sup dawg, I'm really happy for you, I'mma let you finish; but the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection is the most factually supported theory of all time man.
@IwillhonorGod "I do trust in God's judgment. He has not been wrong yet."
So, he wasn't wrong in 2 Kings where he sends forty-two bears to tear apart some youths for making fun of a bald guy? What about him ordering the killing of all the men, women, and children in Deuteronomy 3? And including animals in Joshua 6? Or in Judges 21, where he makes an exception for young virgin girls--they can take them and rape them all they want? NONE of that was wrong???
@IwillhonorGod "...but I do trust in God's judgment. He has not been wrong yet."
What about that one time where he slaughtered every single one of the puppies and kittens and babies? Unless you think such an act isn't wrong, of course.
@shanedk God does not want people going to hell. This is why He sends people to speak. Tells people to preach the gospel to every creature. This is why I battle long with you, and others, non believers. Because though it might seem long now, this time that we live on earth, it will be nothing compared with eternity. It will be nothing compared with forever.
@IwillhonorGod "God does not want people going to hell." Then why does he allow it? It's within his power to stop it, isn't it? But no, God picks an incredibly ineffective route to avoiding it which no one with an ounce of sense would believe!
@shanedk Regarding society, how do you wonder at the problems in society, which are a result of rebelling to God, and keep on doing the same things? I heard some one say some where, the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing, expecting a different result.
If you think the God who made the heavens and the earth's sacrifice is so primitive, I would like you to explain what is a medium advanced sacrifice and an advanced sacrifice.
@IwillhonorGod No, I didn't avoid it, I attacked the premise behind the question. Perfectly valid. Once that is successfully attacked, the question itself becomes moot.
But in case you still need an answer: ALL sacrifices are primitive. Sacrifice is an INCREDIBLY primitive concept!
@shanedk Regarding Jesus blood, it does have a place in society. in your country, "God bless America" and some where I am sure there is a quote that talks about your God given rights, which can not be taken away. In my country, God keep our land, Glorious and free. Looking at these national anthem prayers, and looking at the reality of the state of these countries, you will have to be blind to not see, these things have come to pass.
@shanedk your body has blood, if you don't think it is good, then drain it out. This is a jack ass saying, and response, but it should put it in perspective for you.
Never said it didn't and you know it. But it isn't imbued with some mysterious life force. It's there to deliver oxygen and nutrients to your body's cells. Food and energy, NOT life force.
@shanedk It is funny how you talk about God, and then you talk about evil. You say God does not exist, and then you impose that evil does. But if God does not exist, tell me how any thing good or evil does, in this so called reality you have.
I can say I believe in good and evil, because God says, what is good and evil. But if there is not God, then these things don't exist, and who says they do?
@shanedk I did answer my own question. but you did not answer my question, but just avoided it.
maybe I will change the wording slightly, that you might understand. ah...I changed my mind. I don't recommend books that are not true, but that you might understand the mindset, you should look at some of niche's books.
basically he talked about the consistency and inconsistency of the atheist mindset. If you don't know, he was an atheist himself.
@IwillhonorGod No, not avoiding. ANY person of morality can answer it. In fact, the whole field of ethology explains it beautifully! But I reiterate: If you HONESTLY don't know the answer to the question, then you're a dangerous sociopath (also borne out by many of your recent posts).
You don't kill innocent people because mankind could not have a society and progress if you did. If you don't see that, then you should be locked up.
@shanedk But the scripture says, that He has written the Laws, on our hearts, and this is how you know, in your heart, that there is good and evil. Even though, your mind, does not know God. sadly....He is good friend.
@TheToxicRadio eat my children hey? what translation are you reading out of? ya, God does kill people justly. when angels start breeding with people, and creating half breeds, God has killed those. When adults, not children reject, Gods payment for sin....let me put it like this. if some one offers to go to jail for a crime you commited, and you reject that, the only thing that is left, is for you to go.
@TheToxicRadio babies don't go to hell......ha ha ha ha....man, you must think God is quite out of line if you think that. But no, people have to be of a certain age, before they can go to hell. It is not an age, like you might think, well what is the age? it is not, according to my understanding of the scriptures, like 7 or 8. But they have to understand, and be competent, before they can go.
@TheToxicRadio but ya, there is no babies in hell. God has shown quite a few people hell these days, kenneth e hagin, mary k baxter, bill wiese. scripture is clear on it also. God was telling me one day though, when the children are aborted, (they go to heaven), and they ask God why. God was telling me, it is hard to answer this.
@TheToxicRadio ya you sound like another person that is trying to justify them selves. trying to justify how you live, sticking your head in the sand, and covering your eyes from reality like a child.
no it is like, you understanding does not line up with the bible. There are many mysteries in the bible though, that are not known, it is not an average book, just written by men, that is for sure.
well God bless ya, hope ya start sending out some life giving waves, radio.
9 people had their belief system crushed to high hell..... time to get a new friend: might i suggest astronomy this time in stead of astrology...?
Epostaxis 3 weeks ago
@Epostaxis Yes: go with the wise mother instead of the mad daughter (to reference an analogy from Voltaire).
shanedk 3 weeks ago
wait, i meant isnt bellatrix closer to us than betelgeuse? it isnt in this video
jezzie7354 3 months ago
@jezzie7354 Yes, it is; I just checked.
shanedk 3 months ago
@jezzie7354 In fact, at the end of the animation, Bellatrix is one of the ones that comes zooming in at the last moment.
shanedk 3 months ago
isnt betelgeuse closer to us than bellatrix?
jezzie7354 3 months ago
AMOS 5:8 THE SEVEN STARS IS PLEIADES AND ORION IS "BEFORE THE LORD" (which is known as Nimrod) and christians believe they are different than those that worshipped Gods from the stars.. haha.. the Bible is saying the exact same thing as the ancient egyptians, hopi native americans, mayans, babylonians, greeks, aztecs, dogon and all other ancestors from long ago. Its time to wake up sheeple! GENESIS 10:8-12 (SARGON OF AKKAD.. INVESTIGATE!)
aliearia03 3 months ago
Obviously the pre-frontal cortex is not blocking truth for some of us... thank you for making this video..
aliearia03 3 months ago
it warped my perspective and what it think about it. the universe. infinity. 1 % of infinity is still infinit. so 10 % is infinity x 10? . its all about paradox. ( infinite multiple perspectives) who is to say we are alone. we may be small. unbelvably small. or even huge. no one knows what we are. rational questions smack belivers in the face
tisilwm 7 months ago
@tisilwm "So 10% is infinity x 10?" No, it is just infinity. Infinity is limited and limitless at the same time. It is like a hotel thats rooms are all booked, but it can always find an empty room for new guests.
Killedkennyagain 5 months ago
@Killedkennyagain so like a balloon. that cant pop.lol
tisilwm 5 months ago
@Killedkennyagain lol to put it physicly
tisilwm 5 months ago
@tisilwm ;-) It should be noted that I stole that hotel example from an example made by Lawrence Krauss during the Q&A of a lecture he once gave. I thought it was quite good and sequestered it for future use.
Killedkennyagain 5 months ago
@Killedkennyagain I always loved that example.
shanedk 5 months ago
@Killedkennyagain lol. nice frontal lobe usage. :p
tisilwm 5 months ago 2
@tisilwm If I had an infinite number of boxes (all numbered--don't ask how), and they all had objects inside them, and you came in with an infinite number of other items to put in boxes, I could take all the objects out of my boxes (again, don't ask how), multiply each number by 10, and put it in the new boxes (numbered 10, 20, 30, etc.). You could then put your infinity of items in boxes 1-9, 11-19, 21-29, etc. It would still total infinity with enough room for all of them.
shanedk 5 months ago
@shanedk but thats just a theory. infinity . it might be just an understatement on our actual reality. and most likely is. sure our physical rhealm could go on to be something only comprehendable and physicly imajinative after death. for no one really knows. reality is something your expierience your self. in your own perspective. thinking and molding your subconcious mind to send you where you desirv to go when your time comes.reality. and the fact we are "mind and matter" just be rational.
tisilwm 5 months ago
@tisilwm Actually, infinities are real. That's how the Casimir Effect works: the infinity of particles between the two plates (their frequencies being a multiple of half the distance between them) is smaller than the infinity of particles outside, and the result is measurable pressure!
shanedk 5 months ago
@shanedk that dosnt give me any insite whats so ever. mabey im just ignorent. then again people get mad about that. i seen that curiosity show with steven hawking and its pretty intense. and leave almost the other half ot the universe un touched. infinity is most likely real. but we cannot see beyond our horizon. so how are we to conclude. all we can do is expieience reality in our perspective.
tisilwm 5 months ago
@tisilwm Well, that's the problem: the more science gets away from areas of everyday human experience--the things our little monkey-brains actually evolved to be able to deal with--the more difficulty we have conceptualizing what's going on. Don't worry, it's not just you.
I think it was Richard Feynman who said, "If you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understand quantum mechanics."
shanedk 5 months ago
@tisilwm And even without changing the rest of the scenario, I could put all mine in the even boxes and yours in the odd, or I could put all mine in the prime-numbered boxes and yours in the non-primes. Infinity is VERY difficult to wrap your head around.
shanedk 5 months ago
@shanedk Conveniently, our generation was given the opportunity to apply the concept of infinity to a practical purpose in the form of infinite ammo codes in video games. :-P
I know, lame joke.
Virgil0211 5 months ago
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also, here is a video of my installation: youtube.com/watch?v=vdZCsb6EFf4&NR=1
Skaatar 8 months ago
I made an art piece about this! Discovered your video now ! Like it !
check mine version at skatar.com and go to "space view"
Skaatar 8 months ago
@Skaatar Nicely done! I love the LED sculpture.
shanedk 8 months ago
@shanedk Thanks ! Happy that you like it !
Skaatar 8 months ago
Another way to show that astrology is bullshit is by reversing the process. Instead of determining the signs and characteristics of a child after birth, you decide which characteristics you want your child to have and with a bit of help of modern medicine you can get your child to be born in the right time for those characteristics to apply. Even the most fierce astrologer would say this is impossible.
Quintinohthree 8 months ago
i'm dizzie,haha
trx125tracy69 11 months ago
this was a perfect video! and i think this is why youtube should be design for. Entertaining and educating the public. Thank you for uploading, this was truly enlightening.
mmmodafoca 11 months ago
I got to say though flat would be so cool.
ollieoniel 1 year ago
kool!!!!!!
haleerosser 1 year ago
A program that is very useful to express this is called Celestia.
JohnnyMuffintop 1 year ago
Bitchin music
veganWiccan 1 year ago
Well, God bless all you bible scoffers out there. I hope you find the true peace you are looking for.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
ya, this should be good enough for you shanedk. well, God bless ya, and probably be talking to you another day, look forward to it.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod And could you PLEASE learn to use the Reply button? It shouldn't be too difficult, even for creationists...
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk I figured you would get it, seeing as it is your video.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod It's "my video" that has almost 9,000 comments! What makes you think it's easy to sort out which of your posts responds to which comment just because I'm the one that posted the original video?
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk well you were just telling me the other day, how you seem to think you know some thing. Sorting comments should not be to hard.
look you caught the comment just like I intended that you would, stop worrying about it. Even if you do miss a comment big deal. You don't have to respond to ever body, I sure don't, I don't think I could if I tried, I would be on computer all day, and I got other things to do.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
Chuck Missler talks on this. I think the tittle is, ether cosmic codes, or mystery of the planet mars.....ah, I will look it up for you here. Ya mystery of the planet mars. the other one might talk about it also.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
even I have heard it said, there was some book that was written, I think, I could be wrong, but with in like 50 or 100 years before telescopes were made. I can't think of the authors name, some body swift, wrote this book, drawing on some legends of this time, when mars was close, and from the legends, there is talked about a moon or 2 moons.
So the significance of that, is that, they were not discovered, these moon or moons, till the invention of the telescope.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Considering that Phobos and Deimos would be almost indistinguishable from background stars even from the Martian surface, you'll forgive me if I consider this "prediction"--even if it does exist and is interpreted correctly--is anything other than a lucky guess.
I mean, really--it's not like you can't just download Stellarium for free and see for yourself!
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk ya, in our time we can do that. down load.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
I have heard it said, regarding this event, this is where a lot of myths come from about mars. because in this event, mars would have been so close. I have heard the numbers, how many times bigger than the moon it would have appeared, it is a lot, some thing like 50 if I remember right. So you can imagine, there was some people that were very scared.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod 50 times bigger than the moon??? Okay, let's do some math:
The moon is ~400,000km away and 1737km in radius. Mars is ~3390km in radius, which is 1.95 times that of the moon. So, let's round that up to twice the size.
(cont'd)
shanedk 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod At twice the size. Mars would appear the same size as the moon at twice the distance, or 800,000km. In order for it to appear FIFTY times the size of the full moon, it would have to be 16,000km away--in MIDDLE Earth Orbit, well WITHIN the range of our communications satellites! Do you have ANY idea what that would do to the orbit of both planets???
You're talking COMPLETE crap.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk well, take a look into it. and also the history side of it.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
one point is, God is not bound by time. why? Because He answered there prayer, from the beginning of creation, at the creation of the world, before they existed. That planet, and our planet was put in a precise place, in a precise moment, for his prayer to be answered, on that year, in that day, on that very hour.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod First of all, /watch?v=63pjK_bIgD0
Second, BASIC MATH shows you to be talking complete crap. As I just showed, Mars would have to be so close as to be catastrophic. Tides would be THOUSANDS of times the size they are now! Both planets would be flung off into ridiculously elliptical orbits if they didn't collide outright!
You're full of shit. And so is your bullshit religion.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk wow, you sound like you are undone.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
Now to look at these 2 things together. there is a variety of points you can conclude with out a doubt.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
They need some more time. So Joshua prays, I can't just remember the words here, off the top of my head, but basically asks God for some more time, and He gives it to them. And they have enough time to finish the battle, and they win.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Yes, supposedly the Earth stopped spinning on its axis for 24 hours, then started back up again. If that happened, it'd be such a global catastrophe as to make Joshua's little war completely irrelevant.
Of course, back then they believed the Earth stood still and the sun went around it...
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk There may have been some ignorant people in that day. Not nearly as ignorant as you think though. But looking at time, I am sure there will be people in the future that will say, hey those people in this time were morons.
I think some thing that will be said, is, they thought oil came from dinosaurs. They called it fossil fuel back then.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod No, no one except ignorant morons thinks oil came from dinosaurs (which makes it VERY embarrassing if you're an oil company that has a dinosaur in your logo...). It came from plants. Plants leave fossils, too, you know.
shanedk 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod There's also another story where God moves the sun backwards 10 degrees. Yeah, the Bible has accurate science all the way through it...
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk consider for a moment. If you could. well just imagine, how different that you would be if you knew every thing.
And even looking at history, genius's of the day, were thought fools. tesla is a good example.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@shanedk ya the bible does have accurate science all the way through it. It is not devalidated just because you don't understand it.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod The Bible's "science" is PERFECTLY understandable in the light of the ancient Hebrew cosmology. Now we ARE more sophisticated, so we know how pathetically WRONG it is.
Unless you can point us to the firmament. Oh, and explain why none of our space probes have run into it.
shanedk 1 year ago
ok part 2. Mosses and Aaron, are fighting a battle, I can not think of the name of it. But it is where Mosses has got to hold up his hands, and when he puts them down, there side is loosing, and eventually his arms get tired, and 2 others, (Joshua is the person I missed here), bring him a rock to sit on. and they hold his arms up.
But as the day is coming to an end, that battle is not over, and they need some more time.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
also, a kind of side note, rabbit trail, might be worth your time to look up, if your interested is on stone henge, I have heard it said it was a kind of a clock, but it is understandable, how it would not work, if our whole year system was changed. I have heard a lot of theories on stone henge actually.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
But on a certain day, at a certain hour, these to planets came to a point, where they equalized, and we gained 5 days in our year. many so called scientists, who do not believe in the bible, believe, that this is how it happened. And also, the 360 degrees we have for circles, this is where this has come from, from the Babylonians.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "many so called scientists, who do not believe in the bible, believe, that this is how it happened."
References to peer-reviewed journal articles or it didn't happen.
shanedk 1 year ago
in 701bc, we went from 360 day years, to 365 day years. mars was on a resonant frequency orbit with earth, so if you don't get that, what that means, is before this year, every time they would pass each other, one would gain some, the other would lose some, and it would go back and forth.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
ok, other proofs of the bible. I think, one of the most convincing proofs, that the bible is written by God. well.....I will put this in 2 parts. First as so called scientific people would, that do not have the knowledge of the existence of God.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
on a kind of off, topic, I find myself looking at your picture here on your video, of a flat earth, and I know a lot of people want to claim, the bible says the earth is flat, but you sound like you know the original texts, so I would encourage looking in to that, if you happen to have that view.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod I did. I REFERENCED them. And I pointed you to a theologian who has detailed data showing quite convincingly that this is what they actually believed. Like all creationist liars, you choose to just ignore the plethora of evidence against you.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk no I look into the evidence, and into the assumptions of the so called evidence, and find it not to be evidence, and I stay where I am at.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
dinosaurs were reptiles, and they never stop growing. so, there is a lot to day, that you can go and buy at a pet store, that were basically the same thing. a jackson chameleon is an example.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "dinosaurs...never stop growing" Where did you get THAT insane idea??? Yes, dinosaurs stopped growing when they reached their full height. With some dinosaurs, like Apatosaurus, that was really really tall; others, like Microraptor, were no bigger than a chicken.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk How are you coming to this conclusion. Man, if you will not think, and like set your mind to understand what I say, but just want to argue about the letter of the law, you are wasting your time....wasting your breath.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "How are you coming to this conclusion." Um, the EVIDENCE??? How do you explain dinosaurs that grew no bigger than Microraptor?
shanedk 1 year ago
There is a lot of things that can be addressed from this water canopy, that is addressed in the bible. says in the bible that people were living to be 900 years old. oldest was 969. And it is known today, that oxygen is a healing agent, and this is why people, and especially older people, use oxygen chambers.
Also, it has been found in sap, bubbles that were 2 times as compressed as our current conditions, and 2 times as much oxygen.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "says in the bible that people were living to be 900 years old. oldest was 969."
That's using a lunar calendar instead of a solar calendar. Divide those figures by 13 and you get their real ages. Methuselah lived to about 75.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk in there lunar calendar, they could have 13 month years. you are pretty out to lunch here.
if this is so, then how many fathers were there at about 6 years old or younger? ha ha ha ha ha ha ah man.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Yes, the lunar calendar results in a 13-month year. 365 days in a year, 28 days in the lunar cycle. Divide and you get just a bit over 13.
But we've all seen how basic math eludes creationists...
shanedk 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "And it is known today, that oxygen is a healing agent,"
No, it isn't. More stuff you're just making up.
"this is why people, and especially older people, use oxygen chambers."
No, oxygen chambers are used for specific medical conditions, such as decompression sickness, CO poisoning, or crushing injuries.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk man, what are you trying to do here? ha ha ha ha. Are you frustrated? or what?
medical conditions? you mean like a sickness? so what do you do with a sickness?
look into it man. I have.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod You did NOT claim that oxygen could heal certain things; you claimed oxygen would make EVERYONE healthier ALL THE TIME.
Stop weaseling. You've lost, and everyone here can see it.
shanedk 1 year ago
The same is with some flying dinosaures, it has been found that they could not fly, in our current conditions, but would have required that the atmosphere would have been, if I remember right, 2 times thicker, aka compressed, which is how it would have been, if there was a water canopy.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "The same is with some flying dinosaures, it has been found that they could not fly, in our current conditions"
That's an old Kent Hovind lie. Long debunked.
And a water canopy would have compressed the air by a LOT more than 2 atmospheres.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk so how are you figuring this out, that it would have been more compressed?
wouldn't you have to know how much water there was up there to begin with?
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod No, I just need to know the density of water.
shanedk 1 year ago
it was found that an 80 brontosaurs has the same size nostrils as a horse, and that under these current atmospheric conditions, for that animal to get enough oxygen, it would have to breath so hard, that it would start on fire from the friction of the wind blowing in his nostrils. ok, so that did not happen.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod No, you're talking more bullshit. Regurgitating lies from other creationists. Nothing more.
shanedk 1 year ago
ok, lets start with dinosaurs. a while ago, it was found that under our current atmospheric conditions, a lot of dinosaurs could not exist really, or do what they were designed to do.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
ok, lets start out here, with some basic science, as you call it.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
If you close your eyes that is not science. I think you probably know this in your mind, but you do not consider this, with your actions.
What do you really know, about the theory of creation?
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod I know I've been debating it for over 20 years, so I'll wager I know a hell of a lot more about it than you do.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk It does not matter how long you have been doing some thing. Maybe logically you should know some thing, but just because you should, does not mean you do.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod I certainly know a hell of a lot more than you do!
shanedk 1 year ago
But science is a religion to a lot. They use this word, again and agian and again. And they do not really follow the meaning of the word. They make fun of people, and say they do not believe in science, when in reality in most cases, they "KNOW" some thing, these people claiming to know some thing, do not.
The way of science is not to just go with the majority, but it is to look, and to test things out.
If you stick your head in the sand, that is not science.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "But science is a religion to a lot." No, it's not. This is another pathetic creationist LIE.
Science is GENUINE knowledge--or at least the closest human beings can ever come to it. It's certainly come a LOT closer than your idiotic religion has.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk If you science is not a religion, then you should be moved by the facts.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod I am. YOU are the one who is stuck firmly in place. The facts agree with ME.
shanedk 1 year ago
Creationists are not against science. To be clear, the clear meaning of the word, which is knowledge gained by observation. And pertaining to thing you can test.
And that is pretty much how every one gains knowledge. I know that a lot of people, want to use some fancy words, so that those, that do not know those fancy words, they have the appearance of being smart, to them.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "To be clear, the clear meaning of the word, which is knowledge gained by observation."
That is NOT the meaning of science. Go learn the basics. Science is the use of inductive reasoning on these observations to be able to make predictions. THAT is how knowledge is gained. And THAT is what you and the other creationists hate.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Creationists hate lies. keep changing the meaning of words, and see what understanding you have.
there is lots of online dictionaries, you should be able to find one that is right. But the world is getting full of people that are changing the meaning of words.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "Creationists hate lies." Creationists use NOTHING BUT lies. YOU are the one who used a bogus definition of "science." Then, like all LIARS, you try and deflect from your profound dishonesty by accusing your opposition of doing what you're guilty of.
shanedk 1 year ago
That's a bad interpretation of The Earth's shape based off of what you say, The Bible says.
ironman197268 1 year ago
@ironman197268 This is EXACTLY what the ancient Hebrews believed. It's a well-documented cosmology they got from the Babylonians.
shanedk 1 year ago
@ironman197268 I don't know exactly what you are responding to here. I was not talking about the earths shape here.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod You weren't talking about the Earth's shape when you said "That's a bad interpretation of The Earth's shape based off of what you say"???
Keep on lying.
shanedk 1 year ago
man, you got to study a little before you start spouting off about stuff you don't know like the bible.
some people today, are trying to make the bible line up with so called science. But they are not translating the original texts right.
look up the original texts on your so called flat earth theory, its out to lunch.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod I DID. The word for "firmament," for example, is "raqiya," which means "dome" or "solid expanse." The ONLY way you anti-science fucktards can weasel out of that is by lying about what the Hebrew means, but it still means what it means.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk stop swearing at me. for your own sake. because your curses are not able to land or sit on me, but they will come back to the head, where they have come out of.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Geez, what is it about you creatards that you get so bent out of shape about a few letters put together?
Can you answer the question or not?
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk well, we will not be the ones that will be bent out of shape. We are only bent out of shape, because, I speak for some, but probably not for all.
Because we know this scripture, which says, all those who bless you, I will bless, and all those who curse you I will curse.
so when you try to curse a christian, that does not work, it will be coming back to you some time.
But in this case, seeing as I have heard it, I say to you, you are forgiven.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod All that blathering, and you STILL haven't answered the question. Pathetic.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk How do I put this, I am a messenger of God, which, all christians all called to be, when God said, preach the gospel to every creature.
so, Just, I would warn you, that this being that you mock, is mighty. He hears your scoffing, sees your adulteries, and He does not forget any thing. If you do not turn from your wicked ways, to God, you will see His wrath in hell. so TURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod And, STILL no answer to the question.
shanedk 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod A good source for this if you want to read more is Seely, Paul H., "The Firmament and the Water Above," The Westminster Theological Journal 53:227-40, 1991.
Oh, wait, let me guess, he's an extreme liberal leftist activist God-hater, right?
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk I don't know, I never heard of the guy. you tell me. I guess you would have to know God first, before you could say, he hate Him, and what He is about. If He is in line with what the bible says, and speaks truth, He is not a God hater.
But the bible says, all those that hate Me ( God) (from the scriptures, I am not claiming to be God) love death.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Blah blah blah.
I've shown you evidence that they literally meant a solid dome. And all you do is evade.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk I know my bible. what more are you thinking needs to be said here? or what are you expecting me to say?
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Yes, you know the Bible SO well that you can't respond to me or to professional, scholarly theologians on the subject, all of whom agree that the Hebrews believed in a solid dome over the Earth.
If you were an HONEST person, you would KNOW what you're supposed to say at this point. But your ego prevents you.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk man, you must argue with people a lot. and you must be in this mindset a lot. Because you are trying to argue with me about some thing, that I have not even said is false.
reading from the start here, I can see how maybe you assumed wrong. But you have definitely assumed wrong.
I think you think that I don't believe there was a water canopy over the earth. And so you are expecting me to argue on this, and give some evidence, when I do believe this, and there fore its why I say nothing
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod I've pointed you to one prominent theologian who says you're wrong. Can you refute him or not?
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk man did you get what I just said? let me remind you this is a text style of communication, so if you forget, what was said, you can reread it again.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Another question you still haven't answered.
shanedk 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod read the whole bible, 1ce you see that "your" god wants 2 eat your children, kill women & children, beat your servants, send babies to eternal hell fire because they weren't baptized, you'll see its a bunch of crap put up together by people that would benefit somehow from it. 4 example, hey this man wants 2 rape the shit out of his servant, as long as she doesn't die the next day, it's ok,& so, he writes a part of the bible. it's more like, the bible doesn't line up with the bible
TheToxicRadio 1 year ago
@TheToxicRadio Your name says it all. ha ha ha ha. I laugh, but it is sad. You are toxic to your self.
ya, if you don't understand justice, you won't understand the bible.
Would I have a right to tell you, what is just, about and concerning your possessions? of course I would not. unless I bought them or made them to begin with.
And this is my point, God made every thing. So He rightfully has authority and power over it.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod So, then, you completely excuse God being a selfish, greedy, jealous, mass-murdering, egotistical, maniacal bully and say that this dredge of morality should be the object of our worship?
If what you say is true, then GOD IS EVIL...and so are you.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk man, you are a jack ass. who would you give your first born son for? and you say God is selfish? give me a break. How many people have spit in God's face, and He has still spoken to them, still healed them, still healed there land, still given them wisdom....your statement is ignorant, very ignorant. imagine that you gave your own families blood away for some one....and then they called you selfish, this is, what you have just done to God.
I hope He has mercy on you, you'll need it
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "who would you give your first born son for?" For no one and nothing. To do so would be an act of EVIL. And ANY being that does so is an EVIL BEING.
There is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER of God EVER healing anybody, and CERTAINLY not giving them wisdom since his followers have acted like the biggest jackasses in all of history.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk How can you accuse God of being greedy? Don't you know that he owns every thing? ha ha ha ha. as I think about it, there is 2 things that come to mind, that God can not take, honor, because it is not honorable to do that. And worship, which comes from free will.
But I would like to hear, you try to explain how some thing has more worth, than some body, that made every thing, and redeemed every one that would accept, by giving His own blood, and buying all those who believe with a price
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "How can you accuse God of being greedy? Don't you know that he owns every thing?"
And what if I don't recognize your imaginary friend's claim of ownership? You paint your God to be EXACTLY like a Mafia boss.
And just what the FUCK (yes, there's that terrible collection of syllables that makes you so bent out of shape) do you think that BLOOD has to do with anything good? This is primitive sacrifice, nothing more. It has NO place in modern society.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk The life is in the blood. So then is life good? It is not as primitive as you think it is, because you do not understand it. You need to think about perfect justice, and substitutionary sacrifices.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "The life is in the blood."
No, oxygen, hemoglobin, and plasma are in the blood. YOU are the one who does not understand it.
If you want to talk about "perfect justice," how could that POSSIBLY apply to a God who will punish people for infinity for finite crimes?
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Argue by the letter of the law if you want. I am sure I could find a way to argue about the use of the letter e. But then I would probably miss the truth of it.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@shanedk Mafia bosses trade blood for money, they do not give there own blood for some one else, not willingly and on purpose.
When you piss these people off, they take vengeance right now, or as soon as they are able, they do not give you time, as God gives us time, for some 60 or 70 years or more.
I think you need to consider ownership and rights.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod So, then, the only difference between God and a Mafia boss is that God waits awhile longer.
Thanks for clearing that up.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk If there was a bank that was in a society, where every one owed a debt to that bank, and the bank said, I have forgiven all debt, just come in here, and we will get the paper work done.
The people that would acknowledge there debts, would surly go in, and get it sorted out.
But the people that would not, would not. And eventually they would repossess what the debt was for, regardless of weather the person believed they had the debt or not.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod But what if the bank--or people who claim to be working for the bank but can't provide you any concrete proof that the bank even exists--kept saying that you owe a debt to the bank but can't provide you ANY proof that you ever borrowed money from it?
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk comparing banks with God, to me, it is not the best comparison, being that many banks are not righteous. and many banks are not merciful. As God is perfect in these things, but I think, you will understand this, if you want to.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Yes, again, God is SO perfect in righteous and mercy that he will punish people throughout infinity for finite offenses.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk The bible says, it is appointed a man once to die, and then the judgment. I would say this to you, your sin is a debt, to God. And the only way, it can be paid, is in the land of the living, which you have it brought before you, with me, again and again. But I would say, What about interest? on this debt? The bible talks about thieves, If they steal they have to pay so many times as much back.
But how will you pay it back?
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod
Sup dawg, I'm really happy for you, I'mma let you finish; but the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection is the most factually supported theory of all time man.
The most factually supported theory of all time!
vspqbd 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "I would say this to you, your sin is a debt, to God."
Can you produce a contract where I agreed to this? If not, then your God is nothing but a tyrannical bully.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk I have thought about this, but I do trust in God's judgment. He has not been wrong yet.
Also, I kind of think, is it just, if you fight against God all your life, for God to fight against you all His life?
If you used all and every thing you have and are, in the battle against God, would it be then just for Him to do the same?
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "I do trust in God's judgment. He has not been wrong yet."
So, he wasn't wrong in 2 Kings where he sends forty-two bears to tear apart some youths for making fun of a bald guy? What about him ordering the killing of all the men, women, and children in Deuteronomy 3? And including animals in Joshua 6? Or in Judges 21, where he makes an exception for young virgin girls--they can take them and rape them all they want? NONE of that was wrong???
shanedk 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "...but I do trust in God's judgment. He has not been wrong yet."
What about that one time where he slaughtered every single one of the puppies and kittens and babies? Unless you think such an act isn't wrong, of course.
XitStrategy 1 year ago
@shanedk God does not want people going to hell. This is why He sends people to speak. Tells people to preach the gospel to every creature. This is why I battle long with you, and others, non believers. Because though it might seem long now, this time that we live on earth, it will be nothing compared with eternity. It will be nothing compared with forever.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "God does not want people going to hell." Then why does he allow it? It's within his power to stop it, isn't it? But no, God picks an incredibly ineffective route to avoiding it which no one with an ounce of sense would believe!
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Regarding society, how do you wonder at the problems in society, which are a result of rebelling to God, and keep on doing the same things? I heard some one say some where, the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing, expecting a different result.
If you think the God who made the heavens and the earth's sacrifice is so primitive, I would like you to explain what is a medium advanced sacrifice and an advanced sacrifice.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "how do you wonder at the problems in society, which are a result of rebelling to God,"
No, most of the problems in society are caused by human beings using force to achieve their goals. And your ilk are ESPECIALLY guilty of this.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk no I am not. But you did not answer my question of sacrifices, but avoided it.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod No, I didn't avoid it, I attacked the premise behind the question. Perfectly valid. Once that is successfully attacked, the question itself becomes moot.
But in case you still need an answer: ALL sacrifices are primitive. Sacrifice is an INCREDIBLY primitive concept!
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk Regarding Jesus blood, it does have a place in society. in your country, "God bless America" and some where I am sure there is a quote that talks about your God given rights, which can not be taken away. In my country, God keep our land, Glorious and free. Looking at these national anthem prayers, and looking at the reality of the state of these countries, you will have to be blind to not see, these things have come to pass.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "some where I am sure there is a quote that talks about your God given rights, which can not be taken away."
If you can find it in the Constitution, POST IT. But you can't, because it ISN'T THERE.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk ya, the constitution is pretty much long gone. ah the states is going to fall hard. I feel heavy about that.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Way to avoid the question, AGAIN.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk your body has blood, if you don't think it is good, then drain it out. This is a jack ass saying, and response, but it should put it in perspective for you.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "your body has blood"
Never said it didn't and you know it. But it isn't imbued with some mysterious life force. It's there to deliver oxygen and nutrients to your body's cells. Food and energy, NOT life force.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk I think it could be said then, what is this life force you are speaking about?
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod YOU were the one who brought up life force. You kept saying that our blood has it.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk It is funny how you talk about God, and then you talk about evil. You say God does not exist, and then you impose that evil does. But if God does not exist, tell me how any thing good or evil does, in this so called reality you have.
I can say I believe in good and evil, because God says, what is good and evil. But if there is not God, then these things don't exist, and who says they do?
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "But if God does not exist, tell me how any thing good or evil does"
If you honestly don't know the answer to that question, then you're a dangerous psychopath and need to be locked up.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk I did answer my own question. but you did not answer my question, but just avoided it.
maybe I will change the wording slightly, that you might understand. ah...I changed my mind. I don't recommend books that are not true, but that you might understand the mindset, you should look at some of niche's books.
basically he talked about the consistency and inconsistency of the atheist mindset. If you don't know, he was an atheist himself.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Yeah, I believe that, really I do. Just like I believe Spike Psarris was an evolutionist who worked for NASA. Really...
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk still avoiding....
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod No, not avoiding. ANY person of morality can answer it. In fact, the whole field of ethology explains it beautifully! But I reiterate: If you HONESTLY don't know the answer to the question, then you're a dangerous sociopath (also borne out by many of your recent posts).
You don't kill innocent people because mankind could not have a society and progress if you did. If you don't see that, then you should be locked up.
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk But the scripture says, that He has written the Laws, on our hearts, and this is how you know, in your heart, that there is good and evil. Even though, your mind, does not know God. sadly....He is good friend.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@TheToxicRadio eat my children hey? what translation are you reading out of? ya, God does kill people justly. when angels start breeding with people, and creating half breeds, God has killed those. When adults, not children reject, Gods payment for sin....let me put it like this. if some one offers to go to jail for a crime you commited, and you reject that, the only thing that is left, is for you to go.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "When adults, not children reject, Gods payment for sin." 2 Kings 2:23-24.
shanedk 1 year ago
@TheToxicRadio babies don't go to hell......ha ha ha ha....man, you must think God is quite out of line if you think that. But no, people have to be of a certain age, before they can go to hell. It is not an age, like you might think, well what is the age? it is not, according to my understanding of the scriptures, like 7 or 8. But they have to understand, and be competent, before they can go.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod Scriptural reference, please.
shanedk 1 year ago
@TheToxicRadio but ya, there is no babies in hell. God has shown quite a few people hell these days, kenneth e hagin, mary k baxter, bill wiese. scripture is clear on it also. God was telling me one day though, when the children are aborted, (they go to heaven), and they ask God why. God was telling me, it is hard to answer this.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod According to Mark 16:16, only if they're baptized.
(By the way, you do realize that the "hell" referred to in the NT referred to a garbage dump just outside Jerusalem, right?)
shanedk 1 year ago
@shanedk what does it mean that he acceded, but that he first descended?
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@TheToxicRadio ya you sound like another person that is trying to justify them selves. trying to justify how you live, sticking your head in the sand, and covering your eyes from reality like a child.
no it is like, you understanding does not line up with the bible. There are many mysteries in the bible though, that are not known, it is not an average book, just written by men, that is for sure.
well God bless ya, hope ya start sending out some life giving waves, radio.
IwillhonorGod 1 year ago
@IwillhonorGod "you understanding does not line up with the bible."
That's probably because the Bible does not line up with reality.
shanedk 1 year ago