Alan Grayson, Ron Paul, and Dylan Ratigan Discuss Auditing the Fed

[Trogglodite]

Oh, VOTE FOR PEACE, VOTE RON PAUL!

[Trogglodite]

Wow... Is anyone else as creeped out as I am seeing the amount of troll activity lately? I mean, maybe they're trolling for the same stuff I watch, but it is rather disturbing to see numerically sequential user handles, I.e. Todd2145-Todd2146, having conversations for days on end, on a single video thread, with opposing views at times. Has anyone accumulated any real research on trolls?

[TheAntiRonPaul]

Ron Paul ruined this video. 

[Ihateregistrations1]

@TheAntiRonPaul stfu, troll.

[Silvertaker]

@mistermassive1 I'd run full-speed to the polls to vote for that dream-team.

[rashawn770]

Did anyone else notice how much MSNBC fails at using the teleprompter here?

[mydozer]

End The Fed. Get our monetary policy out of the hands of private banksters who manipulate it.

[sssssjjjj1]

all we needed was sanders help, an independant that has always preached doing right.....then he backstabbed the country and voted in favor of blocking the fed audit. Sanders is a liar piece of crap. What a phoney! I can't stand that azz. He stabbed our country in the back as bad as anyone in the country ever has.

[blaknoizee]

Also, how come we are audited for not reporting our total cash made yet when the Fed "makes" money its never audited? Seems fair enough to me to audit someone that makes and spends just like us.

[patbarkley]

@blaknoizee

The Fed is audited every year.

[mydozer]

@patbarkley  The Federal Reserve has never been independently audited.

[patbarkley]

@mydozer They're audited every year. Most recently by Deloitte & Touche.

[jj128]

@patbarkley Ah yes, one of the Big Five consulting arms. Surely a trustworthy auditor with no conflicts of interest...

[patbarkley]

@jj128 I'm glad you understand better than some on these threads.

[jj128]

@patbarkley Not that hard, consider the big picture, and follow the money. 

[patbarkley]

@jj128 When you see how little they understand, you're right, not hard to beat that.

[blaknoizee]

All this negative talk about Grayson/Paul yet its actually true. Not one of the people who complain look into it for themselves.

[rushnut1958]

Ratigan is the real deal!!!!!!!!!

[Silvertaker]

I'd vote for Paul/Grayson. Two of the best guys we have in that den of thieves.

[patbarkley]

@Silvertaker OMG! What a couple of assclowns.

After Alan loses in November, he'll probably be committed.

[Silvertaker]

@patbarkley Committed for what? Speaking with rationality, humanity, and being outraged over the way our government is spending our children's children into debt and committing murder all over the world in the name of empire? No, maybe what you mean is that when he wins in November, and goes on to do and say more great things, he will be COMMENDED. As he should be.

[patbarkley]

@Silvertaker

Committed for being nuttier that squirrel shit.

For having a tenuous grip on reality.

He's against government spending?

Did he vote against any of Obama's wasteful spending?

No, after he loses in November, he'll have a psychotic break.

[Silvertaker]

@patbarkley Explain to me please exactly what it is that makes you think he is nutty? All I see the guy doing is calling for an audit of the Federal Reserve, wanting to end the illegal imperialistic wars that are eating enough money to provide healthcare for all, and trying to get that healthcare provided. Those are his three main issues that he works hard to try to get something done about, and all of them are needed and honorable pursuits.

[patbarkley]

@Silvertaker His previous stay in a mental institution is one clue.

His visible derangement during speeches is another.

The Fed is audited every year already.

[Silvertaker]

@patbarkley A lot of people have had to stay in a mental institution briefly. We all have issues, and no wonder if you look at the world around us. His speeches.. I see no visible derangement, sounds like propaganda to me ;) Unless you mean speaking rationally about the subjects that really matter while knocking down all detractors with faultless logic is derangement? The Fed is let alone to run amok, and needs to be taken down in favor of either a gold standard or resource-based economic system

[patbarkley]

@Silvertaker

".. I see no visible derangement, sounds like propaganda to me"

The Republican healthcare plan is for you to die quickly.

Doesn't sound rational to me.

I'll miss his idiocy when he's gone.....

[Silvertaker]

@patbarkley Factually true. There is no Republican healthcare plan, because the Republicans are bought and paid for by the criminal, murderous insurance industry, just like most of the Democrats are. If this were not true we would have universal healthcare for all. Grayson is a bit vehemently opposed to the Republicans and occasionally fails to see that the Democrats are guilty of the very same behaviour, but otherwise, he is absolutely right about most things he says.

[patbarkley]

@Silvertaker

Buh bye Grayson, you idiot assclown. LOL!

[jj128]

@patbarkley Why do we see you on all these Fed videos defending the FED? How much are they paying you? LOL!

[patbarkley]

@jj128 They give me a box of $100s every time I smack an idiot around.

Based on our public school system in America, I'm raking in the dough.

[xMaXiMuSx]

SAnders the scum sold out.. He took a watered down bill.

[lalexfanroy]

I have been an Obama fan, but I must admit, that I would vote for that ticket. Grayson/Paul. Historically, you take on the Fed, you end up assassinated, but I hope that Grayson can overcome this Evil. The world needs to wake up to the "secret rulers of the world".

[feigned435]

I'd say Sanders / Grayson 2012 :)

[Freethought42]

@feigned435

You do know Sanders tried to pass off a watered down version similair to the Watt bill through the senate right?

One that wouldn't allow an audit of the actions the Fed takes with other central banks, one that wouldn't allow an audit of the Open Market Committee.

[jalsante75]

All of this discussion is a non-issue if the American People will not elect honest officials, from both sides of the isle, whom will make the dishonest officials get in line. If we are to learn what the "Fed" has been up to, we MUST audit them, because they are not forthcoming with the information freely! And why shouldn't we audit them? They control our money, not just the money in banks, but the dollar bill you have in your pocket as well!

[marinagipps]

That's real bipartisanship!

[freedem]

Did you see the spin there? Paul wants to block the power of Gov't to do anything, Grayson wants to reign in excess unaccountable power no matter where it comes from.

Paul complains that Gov't Reg's have turned the Fed into Criminals, Grayson knows that only transparency and accountability will keep the criminals at bay, & the only smart way to do that is a transparent Gov't bureaucracy with teeth to keep them out.

The one thing they agree about is that the Government needs to be accountable.

[sanarkhos]

@freedem What the hell are you talking about? The FED have been crooks from the very beginning!

Yea, accountable government, right. You sue them, the politicians don't pay—we do!

[freedem]

@sanarkhos

There is more to accountability than lawsuits,& much work before it can be achieved. Paul is only concerned about Government, Grayson is concerned about all power. If you think that government is all that taxes, you are not even trying to think.

The only way crooks of any sort are held in check is a cop doing his job, and the only way that happens is transparency to see it, & some power to act on that. It has been deregulation that has fired all the cops, & we need to fix that.

[sanarkhos]

@freedem

Did I say word one about taxes?

Fuck cops, they're as corrupt as all the rest. You want a history on cops look up the Blue Devils.

[freedem]

@sanarkhos _ I would agree . in an Unsocialized Society that cops are as bad as anyone because they exercise power without accountability. I did mention that the cop has to be held honest too. For a look at such corruption look at the MMS that was supposed to manage the Oil Companies. But the answer is to make them honest, not make them disappear, as that would solve no problems at all except they would keep it secret and you would not even know.

[sanarkhos]

@freedem

Cops held accountable? By whom, and how? The even more corrupt politicians? Give me a break.

Cops are bureaucrats and make up the strongest special interest in government.

Cops are actually a recent invention, and one which has failed from day 1. You can't fire them, you can't sue them individually, and the law doesn't apply to them.

[freedem]

@sanarkhos Cops are indeed a recent invention - before that they were soldiers with no accountability even implied. I'm not sure if British Bobbies were the first but until politicized, did an excellent job. The point was that all "Regulators" are basically cops, and while closer supervision may be needed, the non existence is called a failed state, such as Somalia.

I wonder who you think might not be corrupt. Even lawsuits presume honest courts & some sort of cop to enforce the verdict

[RepublicanDumbAss]

Grayson is the new Paul. Get your campaign donations ready. Oh wait, Paul dropped out, didn't he. Hmmm...

[Reguzeeb]

Hurrr Grayson is a statist. gb2/stormfront/

[Sator8]

Is this country asleep? Carbohydrate overdose...

[spatter188]

I pray that the good people of Orlando send the arrogant ass Grayson back to the slums of New York where he came from. He is a disgusting individual and a disgrace to Florida.

[pretorious700]

Wouldn't the dialogue be better if Ratigan would shut the fuck up and let someone answer?

[1958louief]

When Obama was asking "The People" what he should do once in office..

The Top Idea voted for by "The People" was to End The Fed Reserve.. This has NEVER been brought up by any " News Group".. So " We The People" do not matter!!!

Unless it's Reelection time............

[DaHonestAbe]

Where the hell was Ratigan about to walk off too at the 6:29 mark?

[jhunted7667]

the time has come for all the congressman to bite the bullet , close the Federal Reserve by voting it out of existense and then under RICO legislation prosecute and AUDIT THEM

[TwitterRightone]

@Gstateballer925 When I used the term "socialism" to describe Alan Grayson, I was referencing the Chavez-Dictator socialism of Venezuela rather than the Western European model. Many policies that Grayson supports are socialist in nature. While I do use the terms "progressive" and "liberal" to describe some democrats, I believe those terms to b misleading. More appropriate terms would be statist or totalitarian because they do not reference a particular model such as Nazi, Mussolini Fascism, etc

[Silvertaker]

@TwitterRightone Huge Chavez is a democratically elected leader suffering under the character assassination attempts of the United States media and government because he won't step into line and kiss our imperialistic asses.

Thanks for playing.

[patbarkley]

@Silvertaker

Kill the greedy kulaks, eh comrade?

[ereidhead]

Either you vote to support the people and familes or you vote to support the Banks hmmmm.... sounds like a no brainer to me. I support me, my family and the people...

[DojoNDude]

Ron Paul on reform legislation - "It's not gonna go by without the people knowing. With the internet and the grass-roots movement that's going on right now, everybody's gonna know what they (the congressmen) do. And I think it's great!"

So do I. Let's vote the corporate robots out!

[CongressManwithNuts]

Stupin NeoKKKONs. WRONG Paul has NOTHING in common with Comrade Grayson, he dosnt even deserve to sin on the same stage let alone the same ticket. WRONG Paul wants to DECREASE the size and power of the Federal Government. In what way does that mesh with anything Grayson stands for.. With anything WE stand for. Send WRONG Paul back to his teabaggers. Grayson/Grayson 2012-His death, The only leader we'll ever need.

[TheLogicalGod]

Hah! A Paul/Grayson presidential ticket? Sorry guys but other than the common sense idea that the Fed needs to be audited, I don't think they agree very much on the role of government in our lives. Paul is a bit of a crazy man, but at least he is heartfelt. But I prefer a strong progressive who is heartfelt. And that is Alan Grayson.

[sillynanny44]

@TheLogicalGod paul is not crazy at all. grayson is a statist.

[SilentMunkey]

2 of my favorite people in on argument. =)

[bertly71]

I will say that until we can think past political parties like these two leaders on this issue, we are doomed to fail. Find common ground and make things happen, instead of playing party politics.

[B4TT3RY]

audIT

[nongo]

and despite this, over 30 republicans voted against this amendment.

[JustComeHome]

@nongo not in the house. All the republican reps voted for it. Was the vote already conducted in the Senate?

[nongo]

Ratigan keeps looking to the side. whats up with that?

[TillThenPlease]

Love it! Paul/Grayson 2012!

[paex18]

It really is a dream come true; A match made in heaven. I've been waiting for this day ever since Grayson took office. I too would do anything to see them run together. Even start a whole new political party---> Go onto Facebook and search "The Indie Party" Let's make this thing happen!

[TwitterRightone]

I wonder what Ron Paul says about the individual mandates in the health care bill that Progressives like Alan Grayson shoved down our throats! The biggest difference between Ron Paul and Grayson is that Grayson is a socialist and Ron Paul is not.

[paex18]

@TwitterRightone $5 says you have no idea what Socialism is

[restlys]

@paex18 make that 10.

and put another 5 in there that he has no clue what the healthcare bill does.

[paex18]

@TwitterRightone but to be fair, yes, Grayson is very progressive. He actually hated the health bill because there is no public option. I think the majority of people watching this video will agree that the government has, for the most part, become much too big. The whole point of this is to break up the marriage between Washington and Wall St. So join The Indie Party on facebook and discuss with us any questions or ideas you might have, especially any possible solutions

[GstateBALLER925]

@TwitterRightone Can you even explain in detail how Alan Grayson is a socialist? I guarantee you couldn't prove it if your life depended on it... mainly because he isn't a socialist whatsoever. He is a progressive, period.

[TwitterRightone]

When I used the term "socialist" to describe Alan Grayson, I was referencing the Chavez-Dictator socialism of Venezuela rather than the Western European model. Many policies that Grayson supports are socialist in nature. While I do use the terms "progressive" and "liberal" to describe some democrats, I believe those terms to be misleading. More appropriate terms would be statist or totalitarian because they do not reference a particular model such as Nazi, Mussolini Fascism, etc 1 second ago

[TwitterRightone]

@GstateBALLER925 If you compare the platforms of the Progressive Caucus and the Socialist Party of America, you will see commonalities. I can't for the life of me understand why they would revive the term "Progressive" when it is so linked with their love affair with communism & eugenics. I guess the term "liberal" had such a bad public perception, they thought they needed to change it. It's too bad they can't just realize that it's their ideas that Americans reject.

[marniespeaks]

after the Vote Tomorrow make videos spread links of the list of those who voted NOT to Audit the FED - TOSS THEM regardless of Party

[MooseOfReason]

@marniespeaks Ron Paul will vote against the financial reform bill, because he promotes capitalism, but he still wants the Fed to be audited.

[bamboo4tameshigiri]

I would do anything to see these 2 run for the White house. Grayson/Paul with Grayson for President would actually save this country.

[bnfox]

Holy crap - what a triad of true stellar smart patriots. This is a dream come true!

[RoidinRichie]

Paul>Grayson

[SirPwn4lot]

Dylan Ratigan, Alan Grayson and Ron Paul are all great people. It's no longer about the left right paradigm, but rather about the fight by libertarians, whether they be leftist libertarians like Grayson or Rightist Libertarians like Paul, against Authoritarians on either side, such as Bush and Obama.

Finally we're getting somewhere!

[scanlonized]

banksters are out of here !

[prayfortruejustice]

Americans, Patriots, join the JULY 4th Independence from the FED Day!

From May 13th to June 15th, turn in $250, $500, $1000 or more borrowed FED paper FRN dollars in exchange for public debt-free SOVEREIGN US Mint dollar coins. Exchange rate is 1 to 1 from a bank, or your U.S. Mint with free delivery.

Start circulating on JULY 4th for anything you buy. US Mint dollar coins buy down FED debt!

YES, U.S. Dollars coins can replace FRNs! FED pays us Full Face value.

AUDIT THE FED - Stop Dodd

[TTEchidna]

@prayfortruejustice Oh, I do that already. Vending machines. Convenience.

Of course I also get out $2's, so I can make people think about where shit came from and how it started.

[EcrossH]

It's about time we got some politicians that aren't bought out by big oil, big insurance, big banks, or the military-industrial complex.

[BeantownJim]

Screw the liberal's! They are just as bad as the republicans!

[Zeldovich]

As a liberal, I like Grayson on many domestic issues, and I really like Ron Paul's civil libertarian and foreign policy stances, but they're absolutely wrong about the Fed. If the Fed's actions had really caused too much inflation, we'd have a trend nGDP, with low unemployment.

[SkreetGil]

Stop talking and fight to make a change!

[EndTheFedRes]

Alan I commend you for supporting HR1207 & S604. I think your a great politician who truly cares about the people. But WHY did you vote in favor of healthcare? This violates our Constitutional rights which you swore to protect and defend. Arghhh! I guess not every politician is perfect.

[CognosSquare]

@EndTheFedRes how the eff is Health Care violating your constitutional rights?

[EndTheFedRes]

@CognosSquare It forces you to buy healthcare. You have to buy it, there is no opting out. The government can not tell anyone that they have to buy something, from any person, or corporation.

[CognosSquare]

@EndTheFedRes jesus christ you must be one angry dude. Lets say one person does not want to pay for police, roads, school lunches, government airplanes, army cars, census, parks, nothing OMG IF HE STILL HAS TO PAY TAX ITS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

Can I pay this tax: I just want parks and plumbing for Miami? Thats all representation i want for my taxation. Hey anything else would be unconstitutional.

[verstwo2]

@EndTheFedRes - wrong - every single American already has guaranteed ER care. All the bill does is make those who can pay for it, pay for it...you are against that? You've aready been paying for the ER healthcare of millions for decades while many pay little or nothing, why not 'force' them to pay their share if they can?

[EndTheFedRes]

@verstwo2 I understand everyone is guaranteed ER care, this is common knowledge. What I'm saying is, you are FORCED to buy healthcare. Read what I wrote. HELLO

[verstwo2]

@EndTheFedRes - I understood you don't want people to be forced to buy health insurance. But does that mean you're for unfunded, free, ER visits - even for those who could afford to pay? Not having health insurance creates a risk that taxpayers may have to pick up the tab if the uninsured are injured. Health insurance should be mandatory (within reason) for the same reasons car insurance is mandatory. NOt having it is not just a risk for the individual but for everyone.

[EndTheFedRes]

@verstwo2 Unfunded, free, ER visits? Are you out of you mind? YOU PAY (whether you have the money or not). As did I. No health ins, ER visits= PAY. Especially if you have the money. Now illegals, yes...unfunded free ER visits. Health ins and car ins are COMPLETELY different issues. You can NOT compare the two.

[eifersucht2]

@verstwo2 car insurance isn't mandatory because you don't HAVE to drive. You can opt out by not driving. How can you opt out of health insurance? I guess you could choose not to live, but that's illegal too.

[verstwo2]

@eifersucht2 - details. The point is that by driving without insurance you put the burden of financial risk on the rest of society. When someone drives there is always the risk that they may incur damaged they they are unable to pay for. thus you must have insurance in order to cover that possibility. You may NEVER get into an accident, but it's ALWAYS a possibility. ..you also may never get sick but the possibility always exists. So who should bare the risk? The individual or society?

[romanmir01]

@CognosSquare Is being forced to buy a product you don't want a violation of your right or not?

[CognosSquare]

@romanmir01 who the fuck cares. I didnt agree to the bill of rights. My version of the bill of rights would have that every monday is pancake day for everyone not named Fred.

If the bill of rights say that you should never "be forced to buy a product that you dont want" then it needs to be repealed on accounts of its utter impossibility.

Otherwise I just want to pay taxes for policemen named Fred or something indian-sounding. Are you taking notes, government?? Its my right!

[romanmir01]

@CognosSquare Bill of CognosSquare then would have pancakes etc., but the Bill or Rights is written for other people too, isn't it? Besides it is kind of redundant, you have all the rights unless there are explicitly stated laws that say otherwise, so it's redundant. You have your right to a pancake in the morning, but everybody else has a right to tell you to go fuck yourself, don't they, and not to bother wasting their lives frying you one.

A right of one ends where the right of other begins

[CognosSquare]

@romanmir01 exactly its for other people. I dont agree with the bill of rights as it is now, most dont. People think there is too much or too little gun control for example. People did not agree to pay 6 trillion in taxes on the Iraq war in the middle east. They did anyway. They wanted to pay more or less.

You dont agree with the medicarebill, dont want to pay taxes for that particular thing. But you cant choose a la carte and elect a better leader next time

Cut the omg unconstitutional bs pls

[desurgeon]

Paul/ Grayson presidential ticket in 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[shizueleven]

@desurgeon no. GRAYSON / PAUL 2012!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SirPwn4lot]

@shizueleven I'd be happy with a Grayson/Paul Democrat/Republican primary in 2012.

[sillynanny44]

@desurgeon uh grayson is a statist.

[MarmaladeINFP]

Thank God! I'd been waiting for this to happen. Real progressives and real libertarians have more in common with each other than they have with their respective parties. During Bush's administration, liberals and libertarians protested together. I was saddened when the tax movement started by libertarians was hijacked by neocons & many libertarians didn't seem willing to fight this hijack. Also, many liberals have felt defeated since they realized Obama was neoliberal.

[ArtificialCleverenAI]

Grey Son. Yes. I am.

[czargwar]

END THE FED

Paul/Grayson 2012

[sillynanny44]

@czargwar grayson wants bigger govt.

[preachersaredumb]

Keep fighting the good fight Rep. Grayson!!!!

[jrccdhetlr1]

Grayson, this is what you were born to do, now go get em.