@unsloppyjoe. The Apache is superior in all spec.s except forward airspeed and climb rate. Avionics, powerhouse, armament, literally everything in the Apache is better then the Super Cobra. The cobra is lighter and therefore faster. That's about it. It wouldn't even matter if the Apache was sub par compared to the cobra in a multitude of Specs. The Longbow FCR trumps anything the Cobra could dream to have by a long shot.
@xBABYxKICKERx The one on the video is called the AH-64D Apache Longbow. The difference is that the Apache is deadlier than the Cobra. The Apache has more and better Aviation Techology. Equiped with more weapons and encounter measures, it's considered the best attack helicopter out there.
During combat or when deployed the gunner will always sit up front because everything gunner related is there, not in the pilot seat above. When training or in garrison environment then it's fair game, either seat will do because if all your going to do is fly then it wouldn't matter. The PIC has limited gunner capabilities, mainly 30MM Cannon and rockets. While the Gunner can track and guide the Hellfire missles.
Don't go totally on what Ed Macy says. He's a British Longbow pilot, it's the American Longbow pilots that are the ones you should take notice of first and foremost - they invented it after all.
ffs what u guys smoking, the gunner has ALWAYS been on the front and ALWAYS will be, putting a pilot at the front is just stupid when a gunner could make good use of it, so shhh plz
@junkrat1 any pilot can be a cpg. they are All trained for both positions. So yes you are correct, the front seat is all gunnery, but on the 2nd part, any pilot is capable of being put in the front seat.
@junkrat1 any pilot can be a cpg. they are All trained for both positions. So yes you are correct, the front seat is all gunnery, but on the 2nd part, any pilot is capable of being put in the front seat.
@TMANNTYLER666 Auto pilot on these things is different to normal aircraft auto-pilot. If the pilot or gunner losses concentration for less than a minute, the aircraft and occupants will be at risk.
@SuperFlubberdubber Yes, that is true. Less then a minute? Theres 2 pilots, the likelyness of the aircraft going down due to lack of concentration is HIGHLY not possible L0l. These guys are more trained then you think.
@TMANNTYLER666 I was not saying that the pilots were not highly trained, but that they must consentrate on everything, because there is a lot going on in a battle zone.
I am not sure how this video made it to the internet. A freind of mine sent me the link the other day and asked me when I put it on there. I didn't put it on here but thanks to whoever did. This was filmed during OIF 1.
must be an LT. Taking pictures instead of flying the aircraft. Would never want to fly with you sir. He has all of his "hero shots" in the back seat. You are PHS dude. Fly the 64, don't video it. I would be pissed.
@nater110 i would have done the same thing if i was a pilot rather then being a crew chief, you get bored, ask the cpg to take control for a minute and take some shotz, just creating memories.
Respond to this video... Just alittle FYI, im reading alot of comments on this video asking about who is in control and who sits where. Both front and rear seats contain 1 pilot, the front seat, is the CPG (co-pilot gunner) the rear seat, is the PIC ( pilot in control) Now, although the cpg is in control of gunnery, should he die, the PIC can do almost as much as the CPG, but with limitations on certain things. All pilots are trained to control everything in case 1 dies.
@Jordane1941 Actually, both are pilots. There is a Pilot in Command (PC), who can choose either seat he wants to sit in, but traditionally, the PC will sit in the back seat.
@Kirov686 i know both are trained to fly the helicopter but i thought the gunner will always sit in the front because the front seat has better viewing, as the gunner has a little moncule on his helment so where he looks, the 30mm cannon points at.
@Jordane1941 Both pilots have that. It's called an HDU (Helmet Display Unit). We have everything that we need to fly with displayed there, such as the aircraft attitude, heading, torque, airspeed, altitude, etc. We don't really have assigned "gunners", it's just that whoever is sitting in the front seat is responsible for working most of the weapons systems. In reality, whichever pilot is sitting in the front (most often the least experienced) is working the weapons.
@Jordane1941 Each cockpit is optomized for a certain role, the front for the gunner, and the rear for the PIC. The helicopter can be flow, and the weapons fired from either station though in case one crew member is incapacitated.
@Jordane1941 hey dude, both pilots can be gunners. they only time the pilot would be a gunner is if the cpg (co-pilot gunner) was killed, obviously in combat. its all programming, If the cpg is killed, the pilot can do quick programing to take over the 30mm, both pilot and cpg can do the same as the other.but in normal everyday set up, yes, the cpg will always be in the front, and EVery pilot ir trained to be a pilot and a cpg. You can trust me, I am a crew chief on the apache in the u.s. army.
@Jordane1941 In American Apachies, the pilot is the one who controls the 30mm cannon with his eye monocule and the gunner controls the thermal imaging system, rockets, misseles, and countermeasures.
@40271077 Let me just say that I am very VERY familiar with how the layout and cockpit functions of an Apache work. I can tell you that the front seater in American Apaches is never an NCO, except for maybe a morale flight. Both crew are Officers.
@unsloppyjoe. The Apache is superior in all spec.s except forward airspeed and climb rate. Avionics, powerhouse, armament, literally everything in the Apache is better then the Super Cobra. The cobra is lighter and therefore faster. That's about it. It wouldn't even matter if the Apache was sub par compared to the cobra in a multitude of Specs. The Longbow FCR trumps anything the Cobra could dream to have by a long shot.
Mugen867 1 day ago
Dont wanna be rude or anything bud didn^t the filimg guy look like he was like 16-18 years old?
Or maybe just one of those that have a babyface and look like 20 when they actually are 30 year old ^_^. Btw. Nice vieo and thank^s for the upload.
daniellandgrens 1 week ago
We just witnessed the most expensive route recon mission in the world lol
daspeakeasies 1 week ago
just wonder apache have any air conditioner ??
Pinkcloud07 2 weeks ago
what is the top speed of this chopper ?
13jam100 1 month ago
@13jam100 220 mph :)
Reyes193 1 month ago
@13jam100 Actually the top speed is 192 MPH according to Boeing, which is slower than the Chinook! Two fans for freedom!
MAOfights 1 week ago
i'm riding an apache wooooo!
ThEZuKane 1 month ago
@xBABYxKICKERx The one on the video is called the AH-64D Apache Longbow. The difference is that the Apache is deadlier than the Cobra. The Apache has more and better Aviation Techology. Equiped with more weapons and encounter measures, it's considered the best attack helicopter out there.
ArmyCorporalRiley 2 months ago
@ArmyCorporalRiley i dont know what your talking about but nothing makes the apache better than the super cobra
unsloppyjoe 1 month ago
whats the difference between this and the cobra?
xBABYxKICKERx 2 months ago
@xBABYxKICKERx cobra is the Marines attack helicopter
unsloppyjoe 1 month ago
Bad ass mfs
xDvsking666x 3 months ago
awesome ride!
supercak4 3 months ago
Thanks for the ride Jordane.
worktosser 3 months ago
crappiest camera handling since The Borne Supremicy
klyde338Lapua 5 months ago
who was flying if he filming on the top.
MrFattyfatfatboy 5 months ago
Not too many power lines in Iraq, is there?
jonesy97 5 months ago
Serious i wanna fly a apache!
TheLouwie 6 months ago
If America makes a damn good weapon thing, they should only sell it to NATO,(EU).
and not weird middle east nations....
MrKorky27 6 months ago
thats american machinery there brother on hp from china rofl.....
artman479 6 months ago
They remind me of wasps the way the landing gear hangs down. The video was perfect....the shaking, the sound.
augtenth 6 months ago
3 people fly a Bell 47.....
piratepride2015 7 months ago
That's one Bad Ass chopper!!!
TheBarrett107 7 months ago
why did i just watch nearly 5 minuetes of a wobbly camera in a helicopter... oh yeah its a F**king apache !!
JuRXGaming 7 months ago
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hey mother fucker americans
aagulafgh 8 months ago
both of them can switch control noobs,,,
sanfoori 10 months ago
is he flying and filming at the same time?
Stuntpiloot05 11 months ago
come back here you crazy person!
plarglia 1 year ago
those things haul ass hahaha thats impressive
tuckman30001 1 year ago
Who fires the rockets and hellfires? Pilot or Gunner?
Hamster307 1 year ago
@Hamster307 Either pilot can shoot... The gunner up front has more tools at his disposal to do so, however.
raulrusboy 1 year ago
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so much better than apache air assault...
350z350zify 1 year ago
How can you use the camera and pilot the Apache?
backfortheattack 1 year ago
@backfortheattack its mounted to his helmet
TMANNTYLER666 1 year ago
@backfortheattack hes either in auto-pilot which is more then likely, or the cpg is controlling.
TMANNTYLER666 1 year ago
I'd love a higher resolution version of this same video. Thanks for sharing.
henriquecsouza 1 year ago
@TheRealFreddyAdu I know pal, i was to busy tasting your nanna ;)
TheBobster30 1 year ago
cool like the view
DaveStarr4 1 year ago
The pilot who is sitting in the front(gunnerposition) is flying now?
Gladioter1903 1 year ago
During combat or when deployed the gunner will always sit up front because everything gunner related is there, not in the pilot seat above. When training or in garrison environment then it's fair game, either seat will do because if all your going to do is fly then it wouldn't matter. The PIC has limited gunner capabilities, mainly 30MM Cannon and rockets. While the Gunner can track and guide the Hellfire missles.
patuxent78 1 year ago
Don't go totally on what Ed Macy says. He's a British Longbow pilot, it's the American Longbow pilots that are the ones you should take notice of first and foremost - they invented it after all.
FlyboyHelosim 1 year ago
@FlyboyHelosim The Americans made the Apache AH 64, then the brits got it and put in larger engines, and the longbow radar.
SuperFlubberdubber 9 months ago
@SuperFlubberdubber But you do realize that the Americans also put the FCR on first?
FlyboyHelosim 9 months ago
ffs what u guys smoking, the gunner has ALWAYS been on the front and ALWAYS will be, putting a pilot at the front is just stupid when a gunner could make good use of it, so shhh plz
junkrat1 1 year ago
@junkrat1 any pilot can be a cpg. they are All trained for both positions. So yes you are correct, the front seat is all gunnery, but on the 2nd part, any pilot is capable of being put in the front seat.
TMANNTYLER666 1 year ago
@junkrat1 any pilot can be a cpg. they are All trained for both positions. So yes you are correct, the front seat is all gunnery, but on the 2nd part, any pilot is capable of being put in the front seat.
TMANNTYLER666 1 year ago
I am in the wrong job :-)
SticklesMickles 1 year ago
1:37 thats the face of one lucky mofo i wld love his job !!!
GamBodia84 1 year ago
nice vid!
Libelya 1 year ago
Less posing for the camera 1:36! More attention to flying your aircraft!
iwannaplaycs 1 year ago
Thats what im going to school for. Engeneering apaches!!!
Wher3Wuzi 1 year ago
how do you fly her while filimg lol. Must be a good pilot!
bader58 1 year ago
@bader58 called auto-pilot, or the cpg is in control.
TMANNTYLER666 1 year ago
@TMANNTYLER666 Auto pilot on these things is different to normal aircraft auto-pilot. If the pilot or gunner losses concentration for less than a minute, the aircraft and occupants will be at risk.
SuperFlubberdubber 9 months ago
@SuperFlubberdubber Yes, that is true. Less then a minute? Theres 2 pilots, the likelyness of the aircraft going down due to lack of concentration is HIGHLY not possible L0l. These guys are more trained then you think.
TMANNTYLER666 9 months ago
@TMANNTYLER666 I was not saying that the pilots were not highly trained, but that they must consentrate on everything, because there is a lot going on in a battle zone.
SuperFlubberdubber 9 months ago
I am not sure how this video made it to the internet. A freind of mine sent me the link the other day and asked me when I put it on there. I didn't put it on here but thanks to whoever did. This was filmed during OIF 1.
ah64dmtp 1 year ago
Not sure how this video got on the internet..A buddy sent this link to me. I made this video during OIF 1. Thanks to whoever put it on there.
ah64dmtp 1 year ago
would you rather fly an apache or the stealth raptor?(pretty stupid question i think lol)
ACakaANTMAN 1 year ago
@ACakaANTMAN not too stupid really, I'd rather fly an apache seeing as my preferences are helicopters. I like fixed-wing but LOVE helos.
It all just depends on preferences!
tarkinfish 1 year ago
Letting a Warrant fly. Good job getting your "hero shot".
nater110 1 year ago
must be an LT. Taking pictures instead of flying the aircraft. Would never want to fly with you sir. He has all of his "hero shots" in the back seat. You are PHS dude. Fly the 64, don't video it. I would be pissed.
nater110 1 year ago
@nater110 i would have done the same thing if i was a pilot rather then being a crew chief, you get bored, ask the cpg to take control for a minute and take some shotz, just creating memories.
TMANNTYLER666 1 year ago
Respond to this video... Just alittle FYI, im reading alot of comments on this video asking about who is in control and who sits where. Both front and rear seats contain 1 pilot, the front seat, is the CPG (co-pilot gunner) the rear seat, is the PIC ( pilot in control) Now, although the cpg is in control of gunnery, should he die, the PIC can do almost as much as the CPG, but with limitations on certain things. All pilots are trained to control everything in case 1 dies.
TMANNTYLER666 1 year ago
lolz the pilot is filming and flying, props
airsoftboy1313 1 year ago
@airsoftboy1313 nahh hes not. he will of given control to the front seater. it can be flown from both
vintrise93 1 year ago
So, does the pilot sit in the higher or lower seat?
Naiuhz 2 years ago 6
He sits in the high seat mate. The gunner sits in the lower seat.
Jordane1941 2 years ago 19
Thx mate, I learned something today.
Naiuhz 2 years ago
@Jordane1941 Actually, both are pilots. There is a Pilot in Command (PC), who can choose either seat he wants to sit in, but traditionally, the PC will sit in the back seat.
Kirov686 1 year ago 11
@Kirov686 i know both are trained to fly the helicopter but i thought the gunner will always sit in the front because the front seat has better viewing, as the gunner has a little moncule on his helment so where he looks, the 30mm cannon points at.
Jordane1941 1 year ago 12
@Jordane1941 Both pilots have that. It's called an HDU (Helmet Display Unit). We have everything that we need to fly with displayed there, such as the aircraft attitude, heading, torque, airspeed, altitude, etc. We don't really have assigned "gunners", it's just that whoever is sitting in the front seat is responsible for working most of the weapons systems. In reality, whichever pilot is sitting in the front (most often the least experienced) is working the weapons.
Kirov686 1 year ago
@Jordane1941 Each cockpit is optomized for a certain role, the front for the gunner, and the rear for the PIC. The helicopter can be flow, and the weapons fired from either station though in case one crew member is incapacitated.
ClancD 1 year ago
@Jordane1941 Both back and front seat have monocles, which can be slaved to both TADS/PNVS and the Gun or just one I believe.
SheepJumpFish 1 year ago
@Jordane1941 The gunner does normally sit in the front seat according to British pilot Ed Macey
TheBobster30 1 year ago 4
@TheBobster30 yeah, i read that book as well. its great. its a shame that matthew ford was dead and apparently, he was killed by friendly fire.
Jordane1941 1 year ago
@Jordane1941 damned americans :P
willwoodhouse 1 year ago
@Jordane1941 probably a yank
herrzyklon 5 months ago
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@Jordane1941 probably a yank
herrzyklon 5 months ago
@TheBobster30 I just picked up his book Apache. It looks pretty cool.
leemac4 2 months ago
@Jordane1941 the gunner and the pilot both have the monocle
strontklont 1 year ago
@Jordane1941 hey dude, both pilots can be gunners. they only time the pilot would be a gunner is if the cpg (co-pilot gunner) was killed, obviously in combat. its all programming, If the cpg is killed, the pilot can do quick programing to take over the 30mm, both pilot and cpg can do the same as the other.but in normal everyday set up, yes, the cpg will always be in the front, and EVery pilot ir trained to be a pilot and a cpg. You can trust me, I am a crew chief on the apache in the u.s. army.
TMANNTYLER666 1 year ago
@Jordane1941 the gunner would usually sit in the front because it has the ORT, or TEDAC in newer AH-64D's
DarkstarNovembr 1 year ago
@Jordane1941 In American Apachies, the pilot is the one who controls the 30mm cannon with his eye monocule and the gunner controls the thermal imaging system, rockets, misseles, and countermeasures.
Hbryant188 9 months ago
@Jordane1941 well done great job done
009ijn 2 months ago
@009ijn how did u find this video??
009ijn 2 months ago
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40271077 9 months ago
@40271077 Let me just say that I am very VERY familiar with how the layout and cockpit functions of an Apache work. I can tell you that the front seater in American Apaches is never an NCO, except for maybe a morale flight. Both crew are Officers.
Kirov686 9 months ago
@40271077 That's incorrect. All American pilots are officers (Warrant or commissioned). The UK uses both commissioned officers as well as NCO's.
KPdbg997 7 months ago
@Jordane1941 are these your personal videos? if so how can i become an apache pilot!!!!! it looks like quite a job!
tomkkkkk 1 year ago
@tomkkkkk simple get good grades at school :)
ImBritishAndProud 1 year ago
@tomkkkkk first, join the army lol, next, put in a warrant officer packet, get approved, and go to flight school. it is alot of HARD work though :)
TMANNTYLER666 1 year ago
@Jordane1941 I find it weired how in the the tiger the pilot sits in the front seat
AlexB4455 10 months ago
@Jordane1941 is this a uk or us apache
harrybyles1996 9 months ago
@Jordane1941 how did you film and fly at the same time? i thought u need both hands on the controls?
csfreak89 9 months ago
@Naiuhz The Higher seat, the weapons dude sits up front. Don't forget that he might have activated his auto pilot.
MasterJay08 1 year ago
awesome video man. This needs more views!!!
EagleWing15 2 years ago 3
Just plain awesome...
mspanomc 2 years ago
no mate found it on the intergoogle
Jordane1941 2 years ago
thats American machinery right there ooorah my uk brother
ps3animalfunds 2 years ago 20
Amen my Coalition brother
P4rtis4n 2 years ago 2
@ps3animalfunds True, but the UK version with the Rolls-Royce engines ;)
Oh and we also know who is friendly
loadeduk 5 months ago
What's shaking?
HaloModder555 5 months ago
Terrific video - nice machine - hellhole of a location. Surreal !
snakeskin2u2 2 years ago