Stop Cap and Trade

[falconmoogle]

Full 1 Hour Documentary exposing the Cap and Trade agenda of the Oil Spill. Exposes the hidden agenda and the poisons that are being used to 'Clean' the spill. Spread the word!

youtube.com/watch?v=PD3PxQ-qTu­A

[Joeofiowa]

A University of Illinois study showed that 97% of practicing climatologists agree climate change is real and largely man-made. That 31,000 "scientists" figured is derived from a bogus petition that is unverifiable, not peer-reviewed, and funded by fossil fuel interests.

[Joeofiowa]

That $1700 figure is blatantly incorrect. The EIA, CBO, and EPA all did analyses of the cap-and-trade bill passed by the house last summer, unanimously showing that it would cost the average American household less than a dollar per day. They're using biased studies to produce that figure, as usual.

[YFLOInternational]

When is Obama going to get serious about cleaning up the worst oil disaster in U.S. History. I don't give a fuck about what Obama said. He's a con man ridin' out the taxpayer's money with his wife who hates America getting her hair done laughing at the white people who elected her conniving dumb ass. Yep. I'm a black man.

[Mhimko]

@YFLOInternational Amen.

[Joeofiowa]

@YFLOInternational

I don't care what color you are, you're still stupid.

[YFLOInternational]

@Joeofiowa Geez thanks.  You're a fucking rocket scientist in comparison to my scholarly accolades. Your mother is stupid. How ya like them apples?

[spin12]

This is one lie after another.

The 31000 scientists is a scam and a fraud perpetrated by oil money and conservative think tanks. The reality is that the American Physical Society, the Royal Society, NASA, NOAA, AGU, DOD, DOE, American Institute of Physics and the American ,French and German National Academies all say that Global warming is real, caused by us and catastrophic if left unchecked.

This video is pure propaganda and lies.

[Joeofiowa]

@spin12

Right on.

[markbotv3]

THIS IS FOR SECTUMSEMPRA on my profile you write "i dont censor coments" then say "except yours cause they arent funny" then you point out all my spelling or punctuation errors. but the funny thing is you left all of YOURS on my page for all to read. and since you got rid of my posts on your page their is no evidence i made any mistakes in punctuation or spelling lol . then you end by blocking me...ya you dont censor and you have perfect spelling...NOT

[gareof]

It might be too late, however we have to TRY for our children's sake...VOTE in 2010 to get all of the anti-God, anti-American, anti-Life, anti-marriage, intolerant, racist, marxist/socialist, demo-RATS out - My hope is that by 2012 obama's democratic party will be completely destroyed, never to be seen again in the USA...Vote Libertarian, Vote Republican, Vote Reform, Vote Independant, Vote Whig, Vote Torey - - ANYTHING but democrat - - This is NOT the democratic party Dad and Mom supported

[markbotv3]

@gareof amen to that brotha. my mom a lifelong democrat and union suporter has finally seen the error of her ways. all thanks to a kenyan national named barry soetoro. we need some mcarthyism to go on after november and smoke the rats out

[gareof]

@markbotv3 - I read that barry soetoro is the Best thing to happen to America in 100 years because it has awakened millions of Americans as to what the sonofabitchfromKenya (and creeping socialism) has been doing to the USA...It was an article called "obama has awakened a sleeping Nation" from the Aspen Times Weekly by Gary Hubbell.

[markbotv3]

@gareof ya its sad that it had to come to this. but its been going on for sometime slowly i guess this is our make it or break it moment. god help us all

[gareof]

@markbotv3 VOTE VOTE VOTE in 2010 - you might have to fight your way past the black panthers (take your gun) but Vote every democrat out of office...My hope is that by 2012 the anti-God, anti-American, anti-marriage, intolerant, racist, democrat party will be completely destroyed.. Vote Republican, Vote Independant, Vote Libertarian, Vote Reform, Vote ANYTHING but demo-RAT...This is NOT the democratic party Dad and Mom supported

[agnoses]

Get a skill, barter, help each other, use sustainable sources, trade, and opt out of part of the economy that doesn't work.

There isn't any more for the government to take. We are all down to the bare essentials. Stop worrying about the left and the right - THAY ARE ALL THE SAME. Start living. The resources are ours. They do not belong to big business. Build a sustainable economy that is measured in terms of health, happiness, diversity of the ecosystem, and cleanliness - NOT GROWTH OF MONEY!

[exposetruthwolf]

AL GORE is a RAPIST-he raped a massage therapist in NY; AL GORE views himself as ROMAN Cesar Tiberius-whom decried in 14 BC"The whole world shall pay ME taxes or be killed!" AL GORE-wants to carbon CAP & TAX the whole world so he can steal $Billions. AL GORE has three $8 Million house like King Tiberius whom had a palace in ROME,palace in Constantinople,& palace in Antioch. ALL HAIL EMPEROR AL GORE-KING of RAPE! WHY did Tipper Leave you?

[issuesmattertome]

YEA!!! I would say it should be a carbon tax is a much faster plan but if this what we have to go with, i'm in

[BigGeezer325]

@issuesmattertome All this Green shit makes me puke !! If they would pass a

cap-n-tax bill your electric bill for your home would go up 90% and your gas bill

would go up 70% and gas for your car would be around 7 dollars a gallon. All this

is about is a way for our asshole Obama to create a tax to help pay for all his other failed policies. Obama is nothing but a glorified liberal communist lawyer.

We need to vote him and his idiot administration out in 2010 and 2012, OBAMA SUCKS !!

[nocturnezero]

Cap and Trade: If you're rich, you can pollute all you want!

Shameful policy by free marketeers. Socialize the businesses and turn them into worker-owned firms working towards green energy solutions.

[hidethisnine]

@nocturnezero Are you fucking serious? Does the term Communism mean anything to you? Please move.

[nocturnezero]

@hidethisnine Yeah, it's a desirable system of economic planning.

[BigGeezer325]

@nocturnezero Your an idiot, Did you not see what is going on over in Greece,

The unions are the problem, Employer's need to make a profit to survive. Take

your Green energy and move to Switzerland where they tried to go Green and

found out it cost 200,000 to create one job, And for every job created 6 were lost.

There are many socialized country's so please take your empty scull and move

to one.

[nocturnezero]

@BigGeezer325 Why should we elevate the employers to some status above regular men? The workers are much more important. They're the fundamentals of a business, and yet the employers have disproportionate bargaining power, a monopoly on information and decision-making, and more income. Without a market, we wouldn't need employers.

There are many free markets (Somalia) so please take your empty skull and move to one.

[nocturnezero]

@BigGeezer325 "Tried" to go green? They're 50% on renewable sources now. If anything regrettable did happen, which I don't know that it did, it could be their system of feed-in tariffs causing it, which I never said I support.

[nocturnezero]

@BigGeezer325 Did I not see what's going on in Greece? That doesn't have much to do with the conversation. The problem with Greece was unfettered, wild spending. It's a failure of Keynesianism. That might happen in the US, sure, with our government doing the same, but... so? What does that have to do with anything I said? I don't advocate for government spending or state enterprise or any of that stuff. I think the companies should be decentralized to local unions after they're nationalized.

[BigGeezer325]

@nocturnezero Oh that is real smart, Lets give more power to the unions so they

can make Mike or Bill or one of the guys who puts a bolt on a screw CEO. Yes

that will work. And every year the union will want a better and bigger pension for

all the owners until there not making a profit. What in the hell do you think happened to GM, Funny how Ford worked it out without a bailout and now there

making a huge profit. The unions are dirty and greedy and will cause the down

fall of America.



[nocturnezero]

@BigGeezer325 Actually, I believe in remuneration based on the duration, onerousness, and sacrifice of your work, so no, I don't believe giving an infinite pension to the unions, but I also believe in paying an even lower salary to CEOs and Coordinators until they start doing actual onerous labor in an actual onerous environment and not sitting in an office making decisions about the economic circumstances of other people.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero take a company from those who created it and give it to a bunch of underworked lazy assed whinney tit babys who dont have a clue as to how a business works? fucking brilliant move over einstein we have mental powerhouse here. how is a company going to make a profit if the bosses of the company are union? they will tear it apart and take what they want till theres nothing left then they will be out of a job. everybody loses and nobody wins

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 I'd respond to your point, but there's just so much wrong with it that I'm not sure if I can effectively get to everything. Here goes:

1. Why assume the owners or board of directors created the company? Tony Hayward certainly didn't.

2. Why assume unions or workers know how a business works less than the owners?

3. Why allow the owners to have a monopoly on empowering work while the workers have little to none?

4. What keeps that from happening when the directors are in power?

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero 1. who the fuck is tony hayward? 2.if the workers knew how to run a business they woul be business owners not workers 3.really? does this need an explanation? really? 4. self interest does. only when the working class cheats on tests and somehow makes it to the top through nefarious means do they dismantle their own company. capitalism and investing is a creative act not a destructive one.

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 1. The owner of BP. Sorry, BP's on the brain so it was my go-to example. 2. So you're saying the only asset necessary to owning a business is knowledge? It has nothing to do with money as all? 3. Yes. 4. Besides the fact that Capitalism isn't a gerund, you still haven't answered why a union would be so interested in tearing apart a company when the owners wouldn't.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero 1. oh 2.yup pretty much anyone can get a loan 3. when YOU own a home YOU make the rules...not the pets not the kids not visitors but YOU its YOUR home. YOU are the master and everyone has to follow YOUR rules because YOU are responsible for it. is that explanation enuf? now suplant home for business 4. whats a gerund? and unions are self interested greedy and think of the short term only. owners know they will make more money in the long run so wouldnt waste for short term gains.

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 2. Maybe in some sort of idealistic free market where there were equal circumstances and competition, but not in today's society where companies seek assistance of the state after forming oligopolies on their industries to buy up smaller businesses and force competing enterprise out of the market. There isn't complete freedom to enter the market.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero oligarchys? oh you must be talking about general electric tides foundation general motors msnbc cnn goldman sachs fannie mae freddie mac global investment management yes all these uber liberal corperations are stealing money from the american tax payer and lining thier own pockets but they are hardly capitalistic endeavors. the first law of capitalism is "NO ONE IS ENTITLED TO ANYTHING UNTILL IT HAS BEEN EARNED"

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 What makes them uber liberal? Are you saying no Conservative or in the world has ever gone on a government program like social security or used a public road or benefited from the military or any tax-funded programs in any war?

It's still not necessary to take from the state to form a monopoly. Look at the US free market of the 1800s. Giant cartels formed, protecting their monopolistic overarching companies, and yet there was no state intervention that assisted this.

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 3. I don't think the two are analagous. Your children are family and you have guardianship over them and your pets are your property and family, while in a business the decisions you make may have a negative effect on the lives and conditions of others, whether they know it or not, while they have no say in the decisions and the only thing giving the owner that right is a deed in their pocket. 4. That's sort of an insulting blanket statement about all unions, don't you think?

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero no one is entitled to a job. and its a good thing too. you can leave anytime you want to. and they can fire you anytime they want to. it wasnt too long ago that you were tied to the land or to a ship and you couldnt leave. i would take a short unemployment over virtual serfdom to my fucking job anyday. shurg i was looking for a job when i found this one.

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 That's assuming there is another company on the market willing to satisfy your conditions. A free market only works on the conditions of perfect and perpetual equality, as per the father of Capitalism Adam Smith; otherwise, you aren't actively deciding your circumstances, but your passively choosing which of the few options you have been presented with you will despise the least. The job options are limited in a market.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero job options are limitless. when i was in montana as a teenager i couldnt walk down the street without getting at least three job offers. mind you none of them paid very much but it was flattering none the less

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 Congratulations. My point stands that, working under a boss, you are simply signing off on the offers they lay out for you. It's like someone saying you can choose whatever you want to eat, then saying you can choose only between bread, corn, and fish. Your options aren't limitless and you aren't self-managing; you're working under someone else who provides you options that you sign off on. The same way citizens don't govern themselves, politicians provide them options to sign off on.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero oh well no one is holding a gun to your head to stay working there. its like my parents used to say "my house my rules its my way or the highway if you dont like it theres the door dont let it hit yer ass on the way out" the same thing gos for working for somebody else. if you dont like it you can always leave. work somewhere else or start yer own company

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero and the words "free market" and "equality" dont deserve to be in the same paragraph let alone the same sentence. where the fuck did you come up with the idea that economic equality was a GOOD thing? thats retarded. if we all made the same money none of us would have a job because there would be no one rich enuff to pay us. we would squander our money and be broke

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 1. I agree.

2. Why do you imply that there has to be some owner paying you? Why can't the people who work in facilitation positions at your business pay you? And I'm fine with economic inequities so long as they're earned by effort and sacrifice, not property ownership, genetic talents, output, etc.

3. Are you decrying Adam Smith, the father of your economic philosophy, who postulated that perfect liberty should lead to perfect equality?

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero how many people do you currently employ full time?...i rest my case. you dont employ anyone full time cause YOU CANT AFFORD TO. if we all made the same money we would all be equally poor and nothing would get done

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 And, you obviously didn't read my comment; if you did, you'd have seen the remark that I believe in remuneration by DURATION, ONEROUSNESS, and SACRIFICE. This way, the unions would be able to take only how much they had earned, the owners would rightly earn little to nothing, and the company would be able to succeed with everybody earning just wages.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero ok so what your saying is if YOU bought an old car paid $5000 cash of YOUR OWN money and then sent it out to have the engine interior and paint done and paid them for the service rendered totaling another $5000 then you tax tab title and register the car again at YOUR expense and fill it with gas then sell the car for $12000 for a nice $2000 profit you would share the $12000 equally among yourself AND the people who worked on it? i fucking doubt it. shut the fuck up commie bitch

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 My point was that in an ideal world, we'd earn based solely on things we could control-effort and sacrifice. Sending a car around doesn't qualify as any sort of physical or mental labor. I can't find any justification for profiting from that exchange.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero because the car was a piece of shit when you bought it and you had it fixed up stimulating the economy drive it for a while then sell it to someone who wants an old car thats been fixed up. everybody wins and nobody loses you make a small profit the restorers made some money and the buyer didnt have to do anything cept shell out some money...you dont think he should pay what you paid for it after you did all that work do you?

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 I didn't fix it up. I had others fix it up. After *I* did all that work? All what work? If I was there in the garage onerously and tirelessly working on the car, then yes, I should earn a certain healthy amount, but not if all I did was drive the car there and pick it up.

By the way, I'm fine with minor trade exchanges, but my beliefs more apply to how businesses remunerate their workers, not so much how private citizens voluntarily exchange assets.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero you ponied up the cash. and did the detailing. you had profesionals do the important stuff. because you dont have your own paint shop and equipment your own engine rebuilding shop and equipment nor your own upholstry shop and equipment in your two car garage. if you would of tried to monkey that stuff you would of fucked it up and it wouldnt be worth reselling

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 Well, either way, my point of contention wouldn't be with "me" earning however much as it would be with how much the workers who I sent it to earned from their respective employers.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero if the employer paid them too much he would have to charge too much to keep the company viable. and no one would go to them and they would all be out of work. the trick isnt in making more money its in living within your means a tree doesnt enter the world fully formed it starts as a tiny seed. AND GROWS from there.

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 That's the problem with markets and why moral remuneration can't work in a market economy. Seeing as the philosophies of cooperative self-management, remuneration for effort and sacrifice, and balanced job complexes, all don't work in a profit-based market economy, I don't believe in a market. If you don't agree with the institutions and values that I've proposed, then there's no need to continue the discussion.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero i dont want the collective to tell me what i can or can not do. i want choices and freedom and freedom of choice socialism doesnt offer any of that. and it wants to tell me what to think say and do. fuck communism its never worked it is fundamentally flawed and europe is RE learning that. look at greece look at spain and ireland. all socialist hell holes all going under. they even told barry soetoro he needs to cut his reckless deficiet spending

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 At least we have an agreement there. I don't want the collective telling me what I can do either. All I advocate for is people having a say in their own lives proportional to how a given decision affects them. You want to wear striped socks, that's your decision to make, 100%. You want to move your business to another state and put all your workers out of a job, they should get some say in that decision.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero the workers DO have a say in whether or not the company moves. example Boeing. Boeing cant afford union pay and pensions and the taxes that the state county and city are slapping them with so they politely asked their employees if they could make consessions to remain competitive. of course the workers thought only of themselves and said NO. so now boeing is going to lay off the lot and move to business friendly texas. lol good for them

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 Are we talking about Socialism or Communism? They aren't interchangeable - they mean quite different things. Communism implies a system of remuneration by need, Socialism, by effort and sacrifice. Communism implies equal redistribution of wealth, Socialism implies a system that has equity built in but the potential to earn more, etc.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero i already adresed the comunism/socialism thing in another post. politically comunism doesnt exist it never has. so when i or you or anybody talks about comunism they are actually refering to a socialist state so YES the two are interchangeable.

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 Socialism in its various forms, with all the stigmas attached to it, is certainly a socially collectivist philosophy, I'll grant you that, which is why I try to distance myself from that word and use in place of it the system of participatory economics. It's decentralized like markets so there's no hierarchy telling you what to do, but planned like Socialism so demand can be estimated and openly accessed by the producers.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero there never has been a comunist nation...ever....what we call "comunist" is actually socialism ie Union of Soviet Socialst Republics. or U.S.S.R. for short. the other end of the socialist spectrum is national socialism. or in german NAZI and make no mistake national socialism IS socialism. its just that it benefits a certain racial elite not the minorities and disabled like todays socialists do. nazis invented the autobahn subsidized living healthcare and comprehensive imigration.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero and you claim to "hate monopolies" ie one entity having too much controll of a market. but you suport govt controll of markets. isnt total govt controll the ULTIMATE MONOPOLY?!?!?!?!? i mean wall mart and mcdonalds and exon are big companys to be sure. but they dont set national policy and you can leave at will. if the govt controlled ALL forms of production and redistribution you would have to tow the party line or be fired...then where would you go? its all controlled by them.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero you need to stop worrying about the "plight of the worker" because they have a choice they dont need to be workers. they CHOSE to work for somebody else instead of owning thier own farm or business. and when they choose something they should have to face the consequences of thier actions and or in actions. working for somebody else is not a right its a privelege and privileges can be taken away...but to work for yourself IS a right guaranteed by the constitution.

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 It's not that easy. That might have been true in early Europe, when the option was "go somewhere else"- you could come to America and start a new life here. It's not that easy anymore. Monopolies exist that manipulate the strip mall effect to effectively force out any new competition.

I don't call working for somebody else anything near a privilege.

What clause in the Constitution guarantees this? And who ever said I support Constitutional-Republicanism or -Democracy?

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero the bigest stumbling block to starting your own business ISNT competition. its the govt and all their fees rules and red tape. look at india and then look at singapore. one is poor and one is fabulously wealthy one has lots of red tape and the other has virtually none

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero and yes working for somebody else IS a privelige. they can end your employment at will with or without prior notice. if you dont like it then start your own company and let the employees have run of the roost and see how long you stay in business lol in other words put your money where your mouth is

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 Another problem with the voluntary worker/owner model is that information about the job is centralized to the owner. If there's a dangerous gas leak or asbestos involved that the worker doesn't know about, the owner may not divulge that information in favor of keeping the worker ignorant but unhealthy.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero 99% of the time its the worker who finds the leak. the owner is the last to know. usually middle management is the ones who hush it up. the owner has too much to lose in allowing a dangerous leak to go unattended. and the worker has too much to lose. cause he has to work there. but middle management gets bonuses for making stuff look good on paper and may get fired for not using proper safety protecols that allowed the leak to happen in the first place. ie BP spill

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 A union may form, but the company may engage in union-busting practices without ever informing other workers of their potential for empowerment (McDonald's does this all the time). And it's not uncommon that a worker will be forced between a handful of jobs, none of which satisfy his desires for salary, benefits, empowerment, fun, etc but has no ability to start his own business, the way the homeless and incredibly poor can't get loans.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero lol your not SUPPOSED to make a career out of mcdonalds. its a youung persons gig. you use it to learn work ethic then move on to bigger and better things

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero and just out of curiosity how many unions where there in the USSR. or in comunist china? or poland for that matter. they TRIED to form unions under socialist domination. and many were killed for it. once govt has total controll of the marketplace they will view unions as threats to their power and authority. and YOU are a fool if you think otherwise. so take off that che t shirt and tear down that sublime poster get a hair cut and actually LOOK for a good job hippy

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 Either way, if we're remunerating people for stimulating the economy, then, say, FDR should've earned billions of dollars for starting World War 2.

[markbotv3]

@nocturnezero FDR STARTED WW2? wow is that what they teach in shcools today? ww2 started in 1939 when germany invaded poland. on dec 7 1941 (two years after the start of ww2 for those keeping score) the japs attacked us. and FDR declared war on japan. a few days later germany declared war on the united states and the following day the united states declared war on germany. THAT is how it happened. FDR did NOT i repeat he did NOT start ww2

[nocturnezero]

@markbotv3 I was mincing words; obviously he didn't start the war, but for joining it and boosting the economy. The point is that for stimulating the economy to such a massive degree, by your logic, he should've taken in millions upon million of dollars.

[AsmodeanSDAJ]

Ha, clean energy will actually get cheaper. buy clean energy, and you pay a bit less money. That’s the whole Idea of the Bill! Coal, Gas, and Oil will cost more, its true, but Wind, Solar, and Nuclear power will get much cheaper. This will create jobs in those industries that will out way the jobs lost because of Cap and Trade, and most of those jobs will pay more then the Oil overlord. And Climate Change, a scam? And I bet you think Evolution is a scam to; what about the Earth being round?

[hidethisnine]

@AsmodeanSDAJ Anyone who believes in Cap and Steal is an idiot, plain and simple.

[AsmodeanSDAJ]

@hidethisnine And any one who believes the wild propaganda of fools who want only to keep getting their Oil Checks flowing is a first rate idiot. That is how Glenn Becks are born.

[klavoz2]

total BS

[BigGeezer325]

I guess our idiot in charge Obama's new slogan should be DRILL BABY DRILL

OVER IN BRAZIL !! THIS TWO FACED POWER HUNGRY COMMUNIST ASSHOLE

WILL PROVIDE 10 BILLION DOLLARS OF YOUR TAX MONEY FOR DRILLING

OVER IN BRAZIL, THIS MORON PUT THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS OUT OF WORK IN THE GULF BY STOPPING THE DRILLING BUT HE WILL SPEND TAX

MONEY TO HELP HIS COMMUNIST FRIEND GEORGE SOROS MAKE MILLIONS.

JUST GOOGLE OBAMA DRILLING IN BRAZIL FOR FACTS. THIS IS THE WORST

PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY, SCUM !!

[LyadinDima]

@BigGeezer325 I agree obama is an idiot but remember the president isn't in complete control.

[BigGeezer325]

@LyadinDima The way this dictator spits on our constitution he thinks there are

no rules. Fact even though I agree BP should pay every dime for the clean up and

lost wages. Only Congress and the Courts can force this 20 billion escrow, But our

idiot in charge acts like Hugo Chavez. Just like the health care he makes it a crisis and then forces his agenda on America. This communist needs to be stopped.

[hidethisnine]

@BigGeezer325 My god, at least there is one sane person watching this. Have you read the comments by these fucking idiots?

[Sectumsempra9833175]

@hidethisnine You are horribly mistaken if you are labeling yourself and BigGeezer325 as being intelligent! You're both anti-American Constitution pissers!

[BigGeezer325]

@Sectumsempra9833175 You are one of the fucking idiots hidethisnine was

talking about. First Osama never Governed anything you jerk, You must be young

and dumb. By the way I wonder how you will fill when Obama comes out of the

closet, Yes he's gay. So that makes him a gay communist racist lying un-American asshole, Right? Obama=Scum !

[Sectumsempra9833175]

@BigGeezer325 You wonder how I will 'fill'? Sorry but this doesn't make any sense!  You call me a dumb idiot yet I am able to do something you cannot and that is write in English at an ELEMENTARY school level! Okay I can use a laugh please tell me how Obama is gay; and even if he is so what? There's NOTHING wrong with homosexuals! Oh and you're right Osama never did govern anything seeing as he's a terrorist but OBAMA is NOT a terrorist!

[federalwarhawk]

@Sectumsempra9833175 Obama is a failure! because he has failed the most important duty a president has, protecting the integrity of our currency, his overspending will destroy your generations future, not ours,

[Sectumsempra9833175]

@federalwarhawk LMFAO!!!! I guess you "conveniently" forgot who got America in this mess to begin with! YOUR worthless, piece of shit FAILURE of a president Georgie Porgie (George W. Bush)!!!

[federalwarhawk]

@Sectumsempra9833175 I never said Bush was a good president, and constantly blaming Bush isn't solving the current problem. if you want to see a scale model

of Obama type policies, where Democrates have complete control, look at California,

They were going bankrupt long before Bush was in office, despite having the highest tax rates of all the states,and the highest number of rich people to tax.

I don't care if your a Democrate or Republican, you simply can't spend more than

you take in.

[CelticVictory]

@federalwarhawk Well said.

[BigGeezer325]

@Sectumsempra9833175 Stop your making yourself look like a fool, The thing is

if Obama is gay it is just one more lie this man has done. This idiot has failed with

everything The Border, The Gulf shore clean up, forced Obama care on America

when the majority did not want it, The failed stimulus that has not created any jobs, Obama ran around with a terrorist and sat in a church that preached hate

white folks and America. And has communist and socialist Czars in the White

House, Obama= SCUM !

[hempartist420]

@BigGeezer325 our country is in so much fucking debt and if we dont tax where will the money come from? btw you obviously dont know what socialism is

[Sectumsempra9833175]

@BigGeezer325 I'm making myself look like a fool? Ha! You're making YOURSELF look like the fool! You're calling Obama a homosexual (which he wasn't but there's NOTHING wrong with being one) simply because you disagree with his policies. Oh and if you do wish to point fingers point them at your precious fuck buddy Georgie Porgie (George W. Bush)!! It's that asshole that got American into a recession in the first place!

[mrdalewilsondw]

@BigGeezer325

That's exactly what I started thinking about Obama too.

It took me a minute, but after seeing him tell the people on the Gulf that BS, about everything's going to be alright, and we will be better than before. I knew he was in on the spill. I bet he made a bunch of money when he talked BP into the 20 Billion dollar deal too. They probably paid that just to stay out of jail.

[vikingsownpackers]

@BigGeezer325 amen

[hidethisnine]

@BigGeezer325 You tell em. 

[AsmodeanSDAJ]

@BigGeezer325 Ass-Hole=U. And I don't curse often. You just believe what ever propaganda the republicans put in front of your face don't you?

[BigGeezer325]

@AsmodeanSDAJ Sorry but I only write facts, Once you grow up and realize that

your children and grandchildren will be paying for the Obama policies, Then you

will understand. Ask yourself why did our idiot Obama stop the drilling in the Gulf?

Yet he just told Brazil he would provide up to 10 Billion of our tax dollars for them to drill twice as deep as BP was !! And his communist friend George Soros has

invested millions, And will make millions in profit. Funny how that works, Obama=SCUM!!

[AsmodeanSDAJ]

@BigGeezer325 He stopped the drilling for three reasons: A)Political Expedience, it looks good, and you’ll blast him for it, but the republicans and democrats are equally good at doing things to look good. B)Protect America: that drilling was never a good Idea. It needed to stop anyway, and the rigs are obviously not be regulated. C)Clean Energy: we need clean energy anyway, and this is the perfect opportunity. The need for jobs and lack of resources will push that drive the market.

[hidethisnine]

@BigGeezer325 I cant believe that these people actually believe the lying bullshit that Obama puts out. I think that if someone really wants to be Communist they are most welcome to leave. We may end up having to kill them during the next revolution.

[BigGeezer325]

@hidethisnine It is nice to hear from a human that understands what is going on,

I know we both hope that America will wake up and see the bullshit and deception

that our Asshole in charge is doing, I hope it does not come to killing anyone that

never solves anything, We need to vote this communist jerk and his administration out in 2010 and 2012. Face it America this is no leader, I truly

believe this is the most unconstitutional and worst President in American History

[Sectumsempra9833175]

@BigGeezer325 You say Obama is bad; let me guess you're probably one of the anti-American assholes that thinks McSame (McCain) or that Rootin' Tootin' Redneck Sarah Palin would have done great!

[BigGeezer325]

@Sectumsempra9833175 Hey idiot the jerk your defending is the most far left

anti-American President in history, Why is he suing Arizona and spiting on an U.S.

State and our constitution to protect millions of law breaking illegal Mexican's? I can

tell you why, He wants their vote. So this asshole will protect law breakers and shit on legal Americans. Oh I will take that Redneck Sara Palin over this twerp

any time. At least she has Governed something in her life. Obama Sucks !!!

[Sectumsempra9833175]

@BigGeezer325 Sorry you worthless anti-American piece of shit but if you want the name of a president who's anti-American I'll give you a name: George W. Bush. From what I understand he was a Republican though. Obama governed Illinois but I guess you don't think that's a real state. Still I'd choose him over the Redneck Palin who can see parts of Russia from Alaska and thinks that's all you need to know about foreign affairs!

[DanAtMnMajority]

@Sectumsempra9833175 Obama governed Illinois? When did that happen? News to me. It's generally a good rule of thumb to have a clue before commenting on something.

[Sectumsempra9833175]

@DanAtMnMajority So I made a mistake; big fucking deal! You probably didn't get your Miley Cyrus panties in this much of a wad from the multitude of mistakes your Texas hick George W. Bush made!

[markbotv3]

@Sectumsempra9833175 whats wrong with being a redneck? do you even know the meaning of that word? i doubt it you sound uneducated and ignorant of facts so let me fill you in and ill use small child like words so you can understand. under mcain palin we wouldnt of had three failed stimulous packages the govt wouldnt own GM no unconstitutional health bill and our borders would be secure.

[Sectumsempra9833175]

@markbotv3 Everything is wrong with being a Redneck and yes, I know what the definition of one is! I'm assuming that you're one seeing as you're taking offense. Unlike you I'm well educated; I love how you Right Wing nut-jobs think I lack education just because I disagree with you morons politically yet it is the Retarded Right who can't construct an Elementary School paragraph! Sorry asshole but I don't need you to belittle me. Please check your inbox via YouTube to show me belittling you

[markbotv3]

@Sectumsempra9833175 since you DONT know what a red neck is let me explain...a red neck is someone who works outside so the back of his neck where his shirt doesnt cover is red while the rest of him is white. a red neck is represented by the cicle of the hammer and cicle. and by "well educated" i assume you mean a comunity college since you didnt name your school. it must piss you off to no end that chicago got their gun rights back LOL sucks to be you

[Sectumsempra9833175]

@markbotv3 Good for you! You know the definition of what you are! I'm so proud of you! Here have a cookie! I'm not one so I could give a fuck less what a Redneck is! What is a 'cicle'? Never heard of one and I'm quite curious about it! What the fuck does Chicago being able to bear arms have anything to do with what we're talking about? Seriously you need to lay off the Moonshine!

[markbotv3]

@Sectumsempra9833175 thats right you arent one. youve never worked a day in your life. yer a trust fund baby whos never experienced the real world. and the mcdonald vs chicago case has EVERYTHING to do with what we are talking about. its about the people being able to defend themselves against criminals on the streets and criminals in the house and senate. and it must just eat you up inside to know we CAN defend ourselves against you and your ilk. ha ha

[Sectumsempra9833175]

@markbotv3 I'm sorry but just because you think prostitution is legal work it doesn't mean that I do! You want to be a man-whore fine! I happen to have a LEGAL job! Unlike you I don't work off the system and I work DAMN hard for my money!

[markbotv3]

@Sectumsempra9833175 oh really? you "work damn hard" for your money? then you wouldnt mind shelling over 2/3 of it for cap and trade? ya right. you get yer money from the state admit it. if you DID work hard for your money you sure as fuck wouldnt want that rapist al gore getting it...oh didnt you hear? king gore raped a woman in portland...enjoy

[markbotv3]

@Sectumsempra9833175 oh im sorry you are a patriot? and exactly what do you stand for? cmon really sell it. we will see just how "american" you are. psssh i bet you dont even know why the third amendment is in the bill of rights. dont worry ill give you time to google "third amendment" lol i would love to be a fly on the wall watching you scratch your head as to why i chose that one good luck idiot...oops pardon me "patriot"

[ShoeBoxLoliBunni]

@markbotv3 I have to agree with Markbot. I am sorry Sectum but if you want to remain in a socialist country I would suggest that you move to Canada because the workers of the united states are going to take the country back. :D But I am a good "redneck" American girl so I will help you move your stuff to Canada. (You look a bit emo and I hear they have Avril Lavigne there! :D)

[Sectumsempra9833175]

@markbotv3 I'm just wondering but why didn't your mother abort your worthless Redneck hick ass when she had the chance? You're a waste of a human life! I'm more American than you'll ever be seeing as I was intelligent NOT to vote for your lovers Bush Jr./Cheney and McCain/Palin!! You're a disgrace to this country!!

[markbotv3]

@Sectumsempra9833175 because like ALL good christians she is against abortion and is pro life. it is typical of lefties to view life as "worthless" which is why mao murdered millions of his own people. you keep saying your a patriot and yet you havnt been able to back that assertion up with any thing. and for the umpteenth milionth time sarah ran for VICE president ont PRESIDENT. get it through your thick skulls. damn its like talking to one leftie is talking to all lefties like yer a hive brain

[Sectumsempra9833175]

@markbotv3 Well...she should have done the world a favor and set aside her principals and aborted you and your sister. I know that Palin ran for Vice-President but I guess you have your head in the sand because there's talk of her running for PRESIDENT in 2012. Just wondering but what does it mean to have a "hive brain"? Like I said before Redneck jargon is below my intelligence.

[markbotv3]

@Sectumsempra9833175 wow are you really that ignorant you have never heard of a hive mentality? it is a communal thought. no one individual has a brain of their own the collective or "hive" tells the individuals what to think. and that fits you to a T you spout the same ol shit i heard before "hick redneck inbred george bush comunism is better than capitalism blah blah blah blah" its always the same ol shit. which is why i win all our conversations i know what yer gonna say before you do =)

[Sectumsempra9833175]

@BigGeezer325 Sorry you anti-American piece of shit but probably the worst president in American History was George W. Bush!

[markbotv3]

@Sectumsempra9833175 lol not even close. bush was adamantly FOR  the united states barry soetoro is only for himself and his buddys

[Sectumsempra9833175]

@markbotv3 Sorry you close minded shit for brains but you couldn't be more WRONG!!! Your lover boy George W. Bush was AGAINST the United States!! He was FRIENDS with the terrorists just to protect his Middle Eastern oil wells! PS: How do you like my corrections of both your comments to me (that I left in your YouTube inbox)? Feel free to use them on here to try to make yourself look smarter! :-)

[markbotv3]

@Sectumsempra9833175 ya...he was "freinds to terrorists"...which is why he blew em the fuck up and kicked their cans all over the muslim world. makes perfect sense. with friends like bush who would need an enemy lol. what was obamas first act as president? oh ya he went on IRANIAN tv and appologized for the twin towers getting in the way of those planes. and he appologized for nick bergs head coming off his shoulders. heck he shouldnt of been trying to fix the comunications bush blew up anyway.

[Sectumsempra9833175]

@markbotv3 This so-called war on terrorism has NOTHING to do with terror! Osama bin Ladin is in AFGHANISTAN!!! What country did he send countless American troops to? Oh! That's right! IRAQ!!! Who was in Iraq? Saddam! All Bush wanted to do was to prove to his daddy that he could do what his father could not! Guess what? He did! Saddam is dead so let's bring the troops home!! C'mon respond back to this particular comment! I'd love laugh at (er...I mean read) your response!!

[markbotv3]

@Sectumsempra9833175 he WAS in afghanistan now hes in pakistan. and we shouldnt of stopped at iraq we should of went into iran too. as for why were still there? better ask yer buddy barry soetoro. cause i think we should be out by now too. he s the one keeping them there...why isnt gitmo closed down? didnt he promise to do that too? hmmm ol barry isnt good at keeping promises is he?

[belloni890]

By the way Obama what the hell happened to bringing the military home and stop this murdering of young AMERICANS that the BUSH war mongerers started cmon terrorism ? get real as much of our borders that are not guarded do the people actually think having two standing ARMIES deployed OVERSEAS not on the borders is stopping doodaley squat? The price tag on keeping Iraq and Afgan saturated with US troops is quite a LARGE pricetag,,he has turned out to be a campaign promising do nothing same ole .

[belloni890]

Wake the hell up America were letting this FAKE so called american goernment screw us all the way to the BILDEBERGS and they are no conspiracy they are a FACT democrat republican there is NO difference Oh but wait it was dumb ass bush the republican that had America all to hell but wait no not the democrats they are the idiots NOW? Give me a freakin break how dumb and deaf does this fake ass government think we are? Presidents are nothing but PUPPETS for the Military Industrial Complex &fedreser

[Chrisfre]

Obama says under his policy “energy rates will necessarily skyrocket”…ask yourself…..do you honestly believe we have someone making decision who understands sound economic principals???

[blackberrypimp89]

that bitch will sing anything

[IMPLR1369007]

Crap and Shred, the next Chain that Obama Hopes to out on the American people after his Socialist health Scare Bill

[nocturnezero]

@IMPLR1369007 You're so good at spouting off derisive cliches it's almost an art.

[JPK7777777]

Please, see my page under playlist tab for Energy playlist. See video of Dem CA Maxine Waters threaten the CEO of Shell Oil to "socialize" ... ah what was that word? Well. we're going top take over you big oil companies."

Cap & Trade / Global Warming Bill is nothing but a punishing taxation plan and a redistribution of wealth scheme to include our dollars going to third world countries.

[blackberrypimp89]

@JPK7777777 welcome 1984 or is it 1933

[JPK7777777]

It would drive up costs of everything we buy. It would push more companies overseas creating further job loss.

[JPK7777777]

We would even have to spend monies to retrofit homes prior to being able to sell our homes.

This is an outrage!

Please, see my page under comments section for additional critical concern & plan.

Thanks.

[smerny85]

Great Commercial! About time there is resistance to this scam being pushed more

[RomeoMD25]

The global warming scam passed by Congress. Goldman Sachs is in the middle of it, as usual a potential trillion dollar sure thing.

And Former Vice President Al Gore who will profit from the cap-and-trade plan through his company, Generation Investment Management,

Gore is joined by three former Goldman Sachs heads in their carbon offsets business.

[laurelbush]

feel free to visit this website and kick this poll into the long grass, vote out,

sciencemuseum(dot)org( dot)uk/proveit( dot)aspx

[danchad79]

check out/search 'climate chains'

on youtube.

It is a compelling take on the cap and trade scam

[KenMacMillan]

I have no way of knowing if global warming is happening or not but even if it's happening, there has to be a better way of dealing with it than this.

[intolerantape]

Considering the fact that this does nothing whatsoever other than transferring a whole lot of wealth to some people who have been brainwashing American children for decades (including myself) in order to get this shit passed - Yes, there must be some other way.

[bigc028282]

I hope this commercial is on every station 10 times a day, but I doubt that the media that is owned by as many as 5 corporations will get on board.

[scottblur]

to use that much electicity,tipper gore must have some huge vibrators....