i love this whole scene but i actually think the most powerful part is when Max says "we're almost at the next stop" or in other words "we can get you some help" not only does vincent like max, max likes vincent. but one thing im wondering is, whats the meaning of vincents last words? i know he talked about the guy dying on the MTA earlier and he was making a reference to that but what was the underlying meaning, if there is one?
he ment will it make any difference if one more guy dies on MTA.. will any one notice
like nobody notices the earlier dead guy on MTA for two days.. so he once again in the end repeats his theory that every body is indifferent dosent cares or notices much for others
@IbeJigsaw this is a michael mann film. come on films are meant to be interpreted in so many ways. and in terms of stupidity well brother were all susceptible to that.
Best death scene. I know this movie is WAY DIFFERENT than collateral, but who else thinks that they should have used this song in the ending of marley and me?
Re-watching this ending, something blew my mind: Why did Vincent drop that mag?
Why did Vincent drop his spare mag?
Well if you remember he had to get another gun from the security guard he killed since he lost his normal one from the crash (the one Max uses to kill him).
A quick look at IMFDB shows that the gun Vincent took was chambered for 9mm. The gun he typically uses, and what he would have brought magazines for, used .45.
@se7en00110111 Any old .45 mag wouldn't have worked anyway. And I don't think it was a spare mag. I used to think so. But it may actually just be the same one he ejected from his handgun.
@capecodpirate7 Nah you can clearly see the mag ejecting and falling, but I think mr se7en just might have filled in the blanks. I too was wondering why he didn't reload and shoot.
@TheLeoOfCostaRica i disagree. he dropped the mag cuz he lost its grip. a fatal shot to the chest usually causes this manner due to the trauma to the body. as u saw, Vincent aggressively tried to reload and pump more rounds at Max but didnt realize that he got hit until he dropped the mag n started feeling dizzy n abnormal. afterwards he simply took one last mean glance at Max b4 coming to terms that he was goin today and sat down sayin a great final line to Max b4 peacin out.
For those asking how he out shot him. Right before lights went out and max took an extra side-step Vincent couldn't see him, and Max just had blind luck on his side. Nothing more and I thought a perfect way to end the movie especially with the story Vincent told earlier.
A part of me finds the ending completely stupid and unrealistic, another part of me thinks that maybe Vincent deep down hesitated, and liked Max, and couldn't kill him. Either way it's a fantastic film with maybe one flaw, the ending. Maybe.
Alternate ending: The camera zooms into Vincent. As the train is moving, his wallet pops out onto the floor of the train. The camera then pans to the wallet. A card with a barcode is shown...
my favorite movie!I think in the deep of his heart vincent likes max and they both learned from each other!but the essence of this movie is:carpe diem,because may be is no tomorrow... be in the moment!!!
If they both got a shot on each other, and in the end they sit and talk to each other like friends, have a laugh and die would be a little more realistic.
@Chronoalarm2009 Maybe so, but how could he adapt to instant randomness that throws the logic of his skills away... (ie. Max's blind firing, lights going out exactly during the gunfight, his smaller caliber weapon [Max had his H&K] incapable of piecing the center door beam, etc)
That is just how I see it....but your angle is sound as well.
Vincent: " max get in the car" Max: " listen i won't tell anyone i swear, take the car" Vincent " Really?? Max: " yeah man i swear" Vincent: "Get in the fucking car" hahahhahaha
Vincent would have won if the door wasn't there. As you clearly see at 2:19 he was trying to shoot him twice in the chest and once in the head. But the door was bulletproof. While Max just shot through the windows with blind luck.
stupid ending. movies need more realistic ending sometimes like the usual suspects. would have liked the movie much more if it was more realistic. no damn way a random cab driver could kill a trained killer.
I find it odd that Vincent a trained ex Marine special forces soldier according to the DVD extras for Collateral couldn't hit Max a cab driver at 10 feet range but Max could hit him.
On a side note, I still think Vincent would have killed Max at the end, even if he hadn't discovered his occupation at the beginning. Remember in the middle of the movie where Detective Fanning was discussing a previous case in Oakland where evidently another cabbie drove around and killed 3 people before killing himself. He said the a local Oakland cop never bought the story, always believing someone else was riding in the cab. I believe that previous case was also one of Vincent's jobs.
@uwlwsrpm - it was Jason Stratham, as it was depicted in the very beginning scene of the movie, at the airport, where Vincent bums shoulders with Jason and both of them drops their bags as a cover up to exchange bags.
I thought it was a good ending, Vincent stressed improvisation and adaptation in most things, EXCEPT for his shooting technique. The only strategy he kept constant, ended up being his downfall due to the doors being in his way.
It was irony that ultimately killed Vincent. The reason he died was because he didn't adapt his killing blow to the doors, while Max's blind fire perced the windows and mortally wounded him. The man who preached Max that he should change and adapt himself to a better situation was killed because of a habit related to his job.
If there is one thing i don't like about Michael Man it is the ending of his movies...
You get the final duel between the good and the bad guy and despite the fact that the movie is made to make you prefer the bad one, he gets killed. Like in Heat
@mistamistaladyisdead Well, when you look at the metal part of the door they were shooting through, then you see that Vincent's aim was perfect, however, the bullets didn't go through the door. Perhaps Max's bad aim was actually the reason why he managed to outshoot a contract killer ;D..Awesome movie.
@mistamistaladyisdead The director actually mentioned it in his commentary. What you stated is actually a theme in the movie. Vincent was specific, didn't believe in fate or luck, only skill and preciseness. Therefore Vincent's traditional double-tap to the chest followed by a tap to the head fell on the center frame of the train-car doors. Watch closely and you can see all three hit the door. Max, on the other hand, simply closed his eyes and pulled the trigger. One hit its mark, he was lucky.
There's an obvious joke on how cabbies need to know more about guns than a hitman, but Vincent had a worse position between that metal/glass door and he might have held back a bit because of a connection with Max.
@mistamistaladyisdead Maybe it's the same reasoning as how Jedi and Sith of lesser ability can sometimes defeat much more powerful opponents. Like Samuri, you don't know who will win a duel to the death until it's over. Sometimes the less skilled get lucky.
@mistamistaladyisdead Hey miracles happen everyday. I mean if asshole was able to knock your ugly ass mother up even though he had to drink the entire liquor store to numb the pain of doing such a horrible act against god and humanity. THEN ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE
@mistamistaladyisdead Vincent only had three bullets and he wasted them by sticking to his original plan of two in the chest and one in the head, all three hitting the door. Max just went for it and consequently got a shot through. The one who was able to adapt won.
@mistamistaladyisdead see how the lights flicker? vincent sees max and max sees vincent. vincent aims and then the lights went out. he didn't see that max did a noob thing: he steps aside and aim wildly. thus, max is able to shoot vincent with a stray bullet while vincent had been shooting straight at nothing. so thus, it's the lights that caused this.
@mistamistaladyisdead see how the lights flicker? vincent sees max and max sees vincent. vincent aims and then the lights went out. he didn't see that max did a noob thing: he steps aside and aim wildly. thus, max is able to shoot vincent with a stray bullet while vincent had been shooting straight at nothing. so thus, it's the lights that caused this.
@mistamistaladyisdead I think the point is that Vincent (the contract killer) is meticulous and precise beyond reason, aka: he tried to precisely aim his shots in the dark.
Max (the cabbie), just fired wildly into the darkness hoping against reason to kill Vincent.
Basically, when push comes to shove, luck can either favour the brave or the skilled.
Max didn't outshoot Vincent. Shooting blind through obstacles effectively means you can't aim. So Vincent couldn't outshoot Max. Took skill out of the game; the guy with the heavier-caliber weapon, more ammo, and luck was likely to hit.
The ending sucks. Vincent just shoot in a metal door in front of him like an idiot. That's incoherent, and that's why it sucks. It's like Darth Vador died because he just slashed a metal door in front of him without noticing that it wasn't Luke. WTF!!! come on, this ending really sucks.
Few people notice here that Max has his eyes closed the whole time he's shooting. This movie begged for a sad ending, considering its themes of nihilism and an uncaring, pointless universe. IMO, Vincent should have won the gunfight (would've at least made sense), and then kills both of them, then steps off the train. This ending just feels forced. I would have marveled at Mann's bravery to make an ending like that. It would have been consistent with the bleakness of the film.
@missingnote I thought it was a great ending. It wasn't trying to show an uncaring world. Vincent liked Max and wouldn't have killed him. He got on at Max about his dream of owning a limo company to show him that life is short and that you never know what might happen. He didn't murder people for fun and even when he did kill people, he didn't torture them or take pleasure from it. Just one mans opinion of course, so don't feel the need to call me a queer. Great movie overall.
@tonythepony44 I personally agree with your observation and opinion. I liked this stellar performance played by Jamie Fox... It was a unique movie in a Hollywood full of " movie copycats"
Agree with @legolas3157. Tom Cruise is absolutly perfect as Vincent, and Jamie Foxx is good too. But what is interesting in the film is the relationship between the two characters, which is the base actually.
Leon is the main character from the movie The Professional (1994) portrayed by Jean Reno. The movie is often regarded as the best hitman movie of all time. It also starred the amazing Gary Oldman and Natalie Portman in her movie debut before she became the pretentious skank she is today.
James Issac Newton is the king of scores. He always knows how to set the mood for the ending of the movies that just leaves you feeling good at the end.
@antred11 i point them to the grand number of my favourite films which have him in, he may be crazy for the way he treats his wife and this whole scientology thing, but my god is he good at what he does
Hmmm...suspension of disbelief? No way. Good plot, good story and but overall movie...look...Hitmen aren't that polite and taxi cab drivers aren't that good of a shot, let alone at driving cabs.
C'est la vie Hollywood.
Now, "Eyes Wide Shut" that was a great Cruise flick, and should have gotten him the Academy Award for Best Actor, no doubt!!!
THe reason Max wins the shoot out is because he just points and pulls the tirgger until the clip is empty. Vincent goes for his two shots to the body then one for the heaad, however as Max is moving as he fires Vincents shots hit the metal section of the door, as can be seen at 2:23. They also happen to be the last three rounds in his clip, he goes to reload and realises hes been fataly wounded.
I think 99/100 times vincent would hav got the better of him but tonight he was unlucky.
I thought of an interesting, different ending. The shootout in the train happens, Cruise puts the magazine into his gun, then Cruise walks through, gun aimed, they sit down, he sits down and then some simple dialogue, such as was used in the original, but with Cruise's character just stating that Foxx should follow his advice from earlier, with a bit more added. Then Cruise checks his wound, sees that he's not going to make it and chooses to let them live, with a bit more dialogue before he dies
@Lakerzrock10 Yeah. How about your wallet? Snatch! Boom Boom! Boom! Turn around and Boom! One more for good measure! Ruthless; professional and classic CQB tactics!
@MatauReviews Yeah that's a great direction job, when you feel sorry for the supposed villain of the movie...you find out he's so lonely, and he's probably always been... and you feel sad for him. That's how I felt at least.
Notice that just to the left of Vincent when the lights come back on after the shootout is an advertisement for Metro which says, "Life's too short for long names."
I thought that was pretty damn cool. You can see it right as he realizes he's been mortally wounded.
One nice touch here-when Vincent goes to slide lock, he reflexively goes for the reload-which he doesn't have because he doesn't have his original gun and backup mag. Mann generally gets the gun stuff right, the one minor exception in this film is losing track of the round count a bit. In the "making of" DVD he states Vincent's gun is a .45. As best I know, an H&K USP in .45 has 10 round mags-perhaps 12 at nest with an extended base, thus the 16 rounds in the Fever club scene is not possible.
This scene is Really Good! A Really Good Train Scene!
I like the way Collateral is filmed! In a documentary style. I like Michael Mann's documentary style! I'm at Cleveland College of Art and Design, I'm studying to be a Filmmaker! And I would of loved to have directed a movie, like this one! Collateral is a Really Good Movie! Mann is a good Filmmaker! My dad loves him!
@mfdyson No problem. It's interesting what would have happened if Max hadn't shot Vincent? Would Vincent killed them both and completed his work, or would he have spared Max? One way of looking at it is, that during the course of the night, maybe Vincent sees Max as not just another cabbie, as Max dished out some home-truths to Vincent in his cab, which probably made Vincent respect Max a little more? Vincent relied on Max to drive him to his targets and might have had that in mind? Interesting.
@Fenner1976 I can't help from wondering the same too; not sure as to why the director chose to end the story with Vincent dead. Personally, I would prefer a different ending with him alive. That's the only reason that kept me from buying the CD.
@mfdyson It's an interesting film-study really. Very little facts are known about the character of Vincent, apart from what he reveals in the course of the film. His mother died when he was a child, his father died of liver disease, and at some point he acquired the skills of a professional killer, probably an ex-special forces soldier turned rogue? Either way it's a travesty that Michael Mann and Cruise didn't get an Oscar for this film. However, it doesn't need one to be a truly great film.
@mfdyson True. Michael Mann always seems to get ignored at the Oscars. He has directed some superb films, as well as Collateral, movies such as Heat, The Last of the Mohicans with the brilliant Daniel Day Lewis, and most recently, Public Enemies with Johnny Depp as John Dillinger. Some directors are reknowned for producing some great work. Names such as Michael Mann, Clint Eastwood, Sam Mendes and Peter Weir to name but a few.
I loved the film but the ending ruined the whole film for me, what's next C3PO beats Darth Vadar? i think Vincent could of died from something else like an early gun shot wound or another injury where he was slowly bleeding to death.
Firing a gun for the first time is not as easy as it looks, Max would have to have fired a gun before to use a gun like that.
@JReed1985 maybe they were going to show, that pure luck decides about the score - such a greenhorn can by acciedent win such a profesionalist. but i don't believe in happy ending, which is suggested - VIP, like that prosecutor won't be with ordinary taxi driver- no chance
@oAzREZNoR could be that Max has used a firearm before but I do still think Vincent getting hit by Max wasn't epic just somewhat a crap way for him to die but you have your opinion mate and I have mine.
@JReed1985 No Vincent does a trademark execution called " The Mozambique Drill." He is supposed to fire two in the chest and one in the head like all his other corpses evaluated by the Medical Examiner earlier in the movie. But instead his persistent shooting hits stainless steel doors shaped like a human body with windows nowhere near where he's supposed to hit. Robert Deniro did this in Michael Mann's movie "Heat" to a character named "Waingro."
The moment that Vincent dropped the clip is the moment that we realize he is dying. It gave me the chills, yet it was still a little sad, since Max brought out the innocent side of Vincent (Vincent wasn't going to kill Max anyway, he had a shit-load of respect for him believe-it-or-not).
i love this whole scene but i actually think the most powerful part is when Max says "we're almost at the next stop" or in other words "we can get you some help" not only does vincent like max, max likes vincent. but one thing im wondering is, whats the meaning of vincents last words? i know he talked about the guy dying on the MTA earlier and he was making a reference to that but what was the underlying meaning, if there is one?
adoniskon 1 week ago
@adoniskon
he ment will it make any difference if one more guy dies on MTA.. will any one notice
like nobody notices the earlier dead guy on MTA for two days.. so he once again in the end repeats his theory that every body is indifferent dosent cares or notices much for others
86punjabi 2 days ago
@adoniskon
some lines from earlier part when he knocks the first guy
max: what did he do to you?
vincent: nothing i only met him tonight
you met him one and you kill him like that?
so i only kill people after i get to know them?
who was he? what do you care?
have you join green peace or oxfan? no, thousands of rowandans are killed before sun down, i knock on fat angelino and you throw a hessy fit
max:i dont know any rawandens!!!
you dont know the guy in the trunk either
86punjabi 2 days ago
(5:49) - Max: "Taxi!!!"
jackrabbitslim26 1 week ago
When i first watched this, at 5:15 i was expecting vincent to lift his head up and then go kill them :O like he was pretending to be dead :/ lol
awesome film!!
littlewittlepup 2 weeks ago
But now all that is gone, over with and done, never to return....
jessieyt1 1 month ago
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For me "Collateral" and "Last Samurai" are the best Tom Cruise creations.The last line and ending are amazing.
"Hey, Max, a guy gets on the MTA here in LA and dies. Think anybody will notice?"
JamesSawyerFord777 1 month ago
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JamesSawyerFord777 1 month ago
One of my all time fav movies
88Marlo 1 month ago 2
I love how this movie ends EXACTLY how HEAT begins.
projectbrumaire 1 month ago
3:30
Thats not a rhetorical question. He's asking if anybody will note that once upon a time I was here. It's harrowing.
projectbrumaire 1 month ago
@projectbrumaire This movie really plays to stupid people lol. Anyone who "thinks" that Collateral is a "thinker" is severely lacking some capacity.
IbeJigsaw 3 weeks ago
@IbeJigsaw Agreed but it's not a thinker movie though, it's suspense.
themixedarts 2 weeks ago
@IbeJigsaw this is a michael mann film. come on films are meant to be interpreted in so many ways. and in terms of stupidity well brother were all susceptible to that.
thewhackedsack 1 week ago
can anyone tell me what Tom Cruise last said because I had a hard time understanding it
Sox1512 2 months ago
@Sox1512 "A guy gets on the MTA here in LA and dies. Do you think anybody will notice?"
jabstor 2 months ago
@jabstor O I get it now, thanks allot!
Sox1512 2 months ago
where exactly did vincent get shot, was it in the neck, cos if it was, shouldnt he be dead
TheZadzzz 2 months ago
exceptionally movie for sure. driving through L.A. at night. the atmosphere is just perfect!
MrMushroom123 2 months ago
Best death scene. I know this movie is WAY DIFFERENT than collateral, but who else thinks that they should have used this song in the ending of marley and me?
emichaels9411 2 months ago
Re-watching this ending, something blew my mind: Why did Vincent drop that mag?
Why did Vincent drop his spare mag?
Well if you remember he had to get another gun from the security guard he killed since he lost his normal one from the crash (the one Max uses to kill him).
A quick look at IMFDB shows that the gun Vincent took was chambered for 9mm. The gun he typically uses, and what he would have brought magazines for, used .45.
se7en00110111 3 months ago
@se7en00110111 Any old .45 mag wouldn't have worked anyway. And I don't think it was a spare mag. I used to think so. But it may actually just be the same one he ejected from his handgun.
capecodpirate7 2 months ago
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@capecodpirate7 Nah you can clearly see the mag ejecting and falling, but I think mr se7en just might have filled in the blanks. I too was wondering why he didn't reload and shoot.
SnakeyXT 1 month ago
@se7en00110111
He dropped the mag because he knew it was all over at that point. When he reached for it, he saw that he was fatally wounded and spared Max's life.
Knowing how good Vincent was at his job, he could have easily killed Max with that last mag before dying. He just chose not to, and sat down.
TheLeoOfCostaRica 1 week ago
@TheLeoOfCostaRica i disagree. he dropped the mag cuz he lost its grip. a fatal shot to the chest usually causes this manner due to the trauma to the body. as u saw, Vincent aggressively tried to reload and pump more rounds at Max but didnt realize that he got hit until he dropped the mag n started feeling dizzy n abnormal. afterwards he simply took one last mean glance at Max b4 coming to terms that he was goin today and sat down sayin a great final line to Max b4 peacin out.
BennyBigPants2490 1 week ago
@BennyBigPants2490
*to die
not *today
BennyBigPants2490 1 week ago
@BennyBigPants2490 *to die, not *today
BennyBigPants2490 1 week ago
One of if not the best roll Cruise has ever done. His last lines were incredible.
ISetYourFaceOnFire 3 months ago
For those asking how he out shot him. Right before lights went out and max took an extra side-step Vincent couldn't see him, and Max just had blind luck on his side. Nothing more and I thought a perfect way to end the movie especially with the story Vincent told earlier.
TruthfullyRude 3 months ago
What is the song called when Vincent dies?
tahnster1 3 months ago
@tahnster1 Antonio Pinto's Requiem
charlescarmen 3 months ago
@TheBluebird69 yeah it was actually pretty moving? It was powerful?
tahnster1 3 months ago
who else cried when tom cruise died?
TheBluebird29 3 months ago
A part of me finds the ending completely stupid and unrealistic, another part of me thinks that maybe Vincent deep down hesitated, and liked Max, and couldn't kill him. Either way it's a fantastic film with maybe one flaw, the ending. Maybe.
minglis88 4 months ago
I remember seeing this in 2004 (obviously) in theaters the night before going back to school. This movie remains my favorite movie...period.
homeboymagik 4 months ago
Alternate ending: The camera zooms into Vincent. As the train is moving, his wallet pops out onto the floor of the train. The camera then pans to the wallet. A card with a barcode is shown...
640509-040146
daftrok 4 months ago
3:52 my grandpa had a heart attack and died like that taking a shit.
CueWunAye 4 months ago
@CueWunAye congratulations!
MrMushroom123 2 months ago
I really love it how the cabbie is still pointing his gun at Vincent at 3:00 even though it's empty
SherryZProductions 4 months ago
my favorite movie!I think in the deep of his heart vincent likes max and they both learned from each other!but the essence of this movie is:carpe diem,because may be is no tomorrow... be in the moment!!!
raueda 5 months ago
If they both got a shot on each other, and in the end they sit and talk to each other like friends, have a laugh and die would be a little more realistic.
alexman378 6 months ago
Great death scene. A perfect movie for midnight-viewing.
runawaymotor 6 months ago
Tom not winning an Oscar for this movie is ... unholy...
Kingounnet95 6 months ago 2
Happens whenever I get on the Metro
EpicBeard815 6 months ago
tom cruise played a good dark role.
SeonhwaDaDiscPriest 6 months ago
2:35
I love his expression. He knows it's over.
TheLeoOfCostaRica 6 months ago
Love this movie! :D
Mwal00 6 months ago
@Chronoalarm2009 Maybe so, but how could he adapt to instant randomness that throws the logic of his skills away... (ie. Max's blind firing, lights going out exactly during the gunfight, his smaller caliber weapon [Max had his H&K] incapable of piecing the center door beam, etc)
That is just how I see it....but your angle is sound as well.
DrKeez 6 months ago
4 People dont wanna become cab drivers anymore
Casioo24 7 months ago
Vincent: " max get in the car" Max: " listen i won't tell anyone i swear, take the car" Vincent " Really?? Max: " yeah man i swear" Vincent: "Get in the fucking car" hahahhahaha
footballboy234 7 months ago
nice quality. thanks
6anatolyy4 7 months ago
Tom's death scene is so realistic. You actually believe he's dying. He's one of the best actors of our generation.
ShannonDWaltrip 7 months ago
Vincent would have won if the door wasn't there. As you clearly see at 2:19 he was trying to shoot him twice in the chest and once in the head. But the door was bulletproof. While Max just shot through the windows with blind luck.
jabstor 7 months ago
stupid ending. movies need more realistic ending sometimes like the usual suspects. would have liked the movie much more if it was more realistic. no damn way a random cab driver could kill a trained killer.
USPSAman 7 months ago
I find it odd that Vincent a trained ex Marine special forces soldier according to the DVD extras for Collateral couldn't hit Max a cab driver at 10 feet range but Max could hit him.
CrazyMunky84 7 months ago
@CrazyMunky84
Luck.
mistacramer 7 months ago
Vincent was injured,so the blood loss could cause the bad aim in the end.
raueda 7 months ago
I was hoping Vincent woulda won.
msinclair1991 7 months ago 2
On a side note, I still think Vincent would have killed Max at the end, even if he hadn't discovered his occupation at the beginning. Remember in the middle of the movie where Detective Fanning was discussing a previous case in Oakland where evidently another cabbie drove around and killed 3 people before killing himself. He said the a local Oakland cop never bought the story, always believing someone else was riding in the cab. I believe that previous case was also one of Vincent's jobs.
uwlwsrpm 8 months ago 2
@uwlwsrpm - it was Jason Stratham, as it was depicted in the very beginning scene of the movie, at the airport, where Vincent bums shoulders with Jason and both of them drops their bags as a cover up to exchange bags.
junwangjack 7 months ago
@uwlwsrpm /watch?v=7ZfEEzKFEv8&NR=1
junwangjack 7 months ago
I thought it was a good ending, Vincent stressed improvisation and adaptation in most things, EXCEPT for his shooting technique. The only strategy he kept constant, ended up being his downfall due to the doors being in his way.
uwlwsrpm 8 months ago
Pardon my French, but this was a fucking brilliant movie
MegaMe96 8 months ago
If people didn't like the ending to this move, then WHY THE FUCK are you watching the video that clearly says, "Collateral Ending"?!
scosutherlandj 8 months ago
@scosutherlandj I didn't like the ending, but what I did like about it was the amthosphere, the music and Michael Mann's brilliant directing.
MateoKalifas420 8 months ago 6
It was irony that ultimately killed Vincent. The reason he died was because he didn't adapt his killing blow to the doors, while Max's blind fire perced the windows and mortally wounded him. The man who preached Max that he should change and adapt himself to a better situation was killed because of a habit related to his job.
martianmanhunter37 8 months ago
If there is one thing i don't like about Michael Man it is the ending of his movies...
You get the final duel between the good and the bad guy and despite the fact that the movie is made to make you prefer the bad one, he gets killed. Like in Heat
Kingounnet95 8 months ago
Whats wrong with Vincent dying? He's the villan!!
joseph86255 8 months ago
@mistamistaladyisdead Well, when you look at the metal part of the door they were shooting through, then you see that Vincent's aim was perfect, however, the bullets didn't go through the door. Perhaps Max's bad aim was actually the reason why he managed to outshoot a contract killer ;D..Awesome movie.
karukuju 8 months ago
I adore every minute of this movie....but how a cabbie outshot a contract killer is beyond me.
I know, just a movie
mistamistaladyisdead 8 months ago 28
@mistamistaladyisdead the cabbie's black
chikeedoo 8 months ago
@mistamistaladyisdead im sure he picked up a few tricks driving around LA at night for what did he say..like 12 years?
ajdp1995 7 months ago
@mistamistaladyisdead A dazed and shot contract killer?
Jacko459 7 months ago 2
@mistamistaladyisdead The director actually mentioned it in his commentary. What you stated is actually a theme in the movie. Vincent was specific, didn't believe in fate or luck, only skill and preciseness. Therefore Vincent's traditional double-tap to the chest followed by a tap to the head fell on the center frame of the train-car doors. Watch closely and you can see all three hit the door. Max, on the other hand, simply closed his eyes and pulled the trigger. One hit its mark, he was lucky.
DrKeez 7 months ago 18
@mistamistaladyisdead
There's an obvious joke on how cabbies need to know more about guns than a hitman, but Vincent had a worse position between that metal/glass door and he might have held back a bit because of a connection with Max.
mistacramer 7 months ago
@mistamistaladyisdead Maybe it's the same reasoning as how Jedi and Sith of lesser ability can sometimes defeat much more powerful opponents. Like Samuri, you don't know who will win a duel to the death until it's over. Sometimes the less skilled get lucky.
reptilianskin 7 months ago
@mistamistaladyisdead Max didn't know how to shoot he was swerving his gun, Vincent was aiming at the muzzle flashes and Max got a lucky shot
mikeysa 7 months ago
@mistamistaladyisdead
Hey man, everyone gets lucky sometime. Look what happened to Vincent Vega and Jules Winnfield ;)
Volcatious 6 months ago
@mistamistaladyisdead it was dark mate both of them couldnt see shit so the taxi guy was just lucky
Gazza660 6 months ago
@mistamistaladyisdead in the words of Samuel L Jackson "God came down from heaven and stopped these mothafuckin' bullets."
jsapprockstar725 6 months ago 5
@mistamistaladyisdead Hey miracles happen everyday. I mean if asshole was able to knock your ugly ass mother up even though he had to drink the entire liquor store to numb the pain of doing such a horrible act against god and humanity. THEN ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE
MrRamses80 6 months ago
@mistamistaladyisdead Vincent only had three bullets and he wasted them by sticking to his original plan of two in the chest and one in the head, all three hitting the door. Max just went for it and consequently got a shot through. The one who was able to adapt won.
Thatwasnotme 6 months ago
@mistamistaladyisdead see how the lights flicker? vincent sees max and max sees vincent. vincent aims and then the lights went out. he didn't see that max did a noob thing: he steps aside and aim wildly. thus, max is able to shoot vincent with a stray bullet while vincent had been shooting straight at nothing. so thus, it's the lights that caused this.
charlescarmen 3 months ago
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@mistamistaladyisdead see how the lights flicker? vincent sees max and max sees vincent. vincent aims and then the lights went out. he didn't see that max did a noob thing: he steps aside and aim wildly. thus, max is able to shoot vincent with a stray bullet while vincent had been shooting straight at nothing. so thus, it's the lights that caused this.
charlescarmen 3 months ago
@mistamistaladyisdead Just before 2:20 you can see that vince has run out of ammo and max still keeps shooting.
Janiel127 3 months ago
@mistamistaladyisdead I think the point is that Vincent (the contract killer) is meticulous and precise beyond reason, aka: he tried to precisely aim his shots in the dark.
Max (the cabbie), just fired wildly into the darkness hoping against reason to kill Vincent.
Basically, when push comes to shove, luck can either favour the brave or the skilled.
Just my two cents
survivor686 3 months ago
@mistamistaladyisdead
Max didn't outshoot Vincent. Shooting blind through obstacles effectively means you can't aim. So Vincent couldn't outshoot Max. Took skill out of the game; the guy with the heavier-caliber weapon, more ammo, and luck was likely to hit.
jessieyt1 1 month ago
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skynight700 9 months ago
Thumbs up if you don´t like this ending!!!
cielonauta 9 months ago
The ending sucks. Vincent just shoot in a metal door in front of him like an idiot. That's incoherent, and that's why it sucks. It's like Darth Vador died because he just slashed a metal door in front of him without noticing that it wasn't Luke. WTF!!! come on, this ending really sucks.
Albertolo1928 9 months ago
Thumbs up i you don't like this ending (vincent death) = 2:31
cielonauta 9 months ago 4
I hated the ending. I was rooting for Vincent to finish his job.
He should have killed Max when he had the chance. Too bad the cops had to show up at the car wreck.
knockonyourbackdoor 9 months ago
Few people notice here that Max has his eyes closed the whole time he's shooting. This movie begged for a sad ending, considering its themes of nihilism and an uncaring, pointless universe. IMO, Vincent should have won the gunfight (would've at least made sense), and then kills both of them, then steps off the train. This ending just feels forced. I would have marveled at Mann's bravery to make an ending like that. It would have been consistent with the bleakness of the film.
missingnote 9 months ago
@missingnote I thought it was a great ending. It wasn't trying to show an uncaring world. Vincent liked Max and wouldn't have killed him. He got on at Max about his dream of owning a limo company to show him that life is short and that you never know what might happen. He didn't murder people for fun and even when he did kill people, he didn't torture them or take pleasure from it. Just one mans opinion of course, so don't feel the need to call me a queer. Great movie overall.
tonythepony44 8 months ago 15
@tonythepony44 great opinion about the movie
IBBangin82 8 months ago 3
@tonythepony44 Great analysis. Similar ending showing empathy like with Dinero and Al Pacino. ...
blucinemafilms 4 months ago
@tonythepony44 in Heat. ...
blucinemafilms 4 months ago
@tonythepony44 I personally agree with your observation and opinion. I liked this stellar performance played by Jamie Fox... It was a unique movie in a Hollywood full of " movie copycats"
gracien2008 3 months ago
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One of the greatest movies of the decade.
ThatLastGuy 9 months ago
I say there old chap..... perhaps you have mistakenly taken my briefcase.
ah a pistol !!...how very dare you.. take that!.. and that!
you too, ...scoundrel
and one for blighty!
HLecterPHD 10 months ago
After Vincents head drops and he loses consciousness, you see the silhouette of a big tree emerge from behind him.
Michael Mann scripted that! Yes, He's THAT precise a director.
spacecowboy95 10 months ago
Agree with @legolas3157. Tom Cruise is absolutly perfect as Vincent, and Jamie Foxx is good too. But what is interesting in the film is the relationship between the two characters, which is the base actually.
ggattuso76 10 months ago
his message was "will any one note my existence"
TheTier11 10 months ago
Damn!! Vincent & Leon, why do all hitmen die in a very bad arse way?!
megalosauru 10 months ago
@megalosauru Whos leon?
Casioo24 7 months ago
@Casioo24
Leon is the main character from the movie The Professional (1994) portrayed by Jean Reno. The movie is often regarded as the best hitman movie of all time. It also starred the amazing Gary Oldman and Natalie Portman in her movie debut before she became the pretentious skank she is today.
megalosauru 6 months ago
@megalosauru aight thx
Casioo24 6 months ago
I love the fact that Collateral ends on the same shot as the one which Heat begins with. It's like they're set in the same universe.
rory66666 10 months ago
James Issac Newton is the king of scores. He always knows how to set the mood for the ending of the movies that just leaves you feeling good at the end.
MoviesintheMix 10 months ago
@MoviesintheMix ...this is composed my antonio pinto!...not newton mate
neloangelos 10 months ago
@neloangelos Actually no. Pinto wrote the song. Newton composed it mate.
MoviesintheMix 10 months ago
That music at the end is badass. Acting and Scores are the things that make movies great.
MoviesintheMix 10 months ago
@MoviesintheMix You can't forget directing that last shot of the MTA leaving is great.
MateoKalifas420 10 months ago
When ever I hear someone claim that Cruise couldn't act to save his life, I point them to Collateral.
antred11 11 months ago 2
@antred11 i point them to the grand number of my favourite films which have him in, he may be crazy for the way he treats his wife and this whole scientology thing, but my god is he good at what he does
captaindropkik 10 months ago 2
tom cruise's most badass role hands down
TheTier11 11 months ago
Great movie,great music
supergouv 11 months ago
It's just soooo strange to see Tom getting killed in a movie, even if hes the bad guy, you still feel so much pity for him. great movie
Killingglorie 11 months ago
michael mans movies are Great
Collateral is a very good movie
For this Movie Tom Cruise should derseved a Oscar
Vincent and Max lived her whole live with a lie and the situtation
at the moment they find it out, makes a collateral damage!
Hey Max ein Mann steigt in die U--Bahn und stirbt. Glaubst du, dass das irgendjemand mitkriegt?
berserker52ge 11 months ago
Hmmm...suspension of disbelief? No way. Good plot, good story and but overall movie...look...Hitmen aren't that polite and taxi cab drivers aren't that good of a shot, let alone at driving cabs.
C'est la vie Hollywood.
Now, "Eyes Wide Shut" that was a great Cruise flick, and should have gotten him the Academy Award for Best Actor, no doubt!!!
rjc071 11 months ago
@MajCinematic Totally agreed. This should have been Cruise's Oscar-winning role.
drlee2 1 year ago
I know who will notice...organ dealers!
mateusz0088 1 year ago
I know who will notice...organ dealers!
mateusz0088 1 year ago
No Vincent, sadly no one will notice. Great line though and so true.
DarkDilemma21 1 year ago
1 of my all-time fav movies,I love the music towards the end of the movie.
Abraham08ca 1 year ago
THe reason Max wins the shoot out is because he just points and pulls the tirgger until the clip is empty. Vincent goes for his two shots to the body then one for the heaad, however as Max is moving as he fires Vincents shots hit the metal section of the door, as can be seen at 2:23. They also happen to be the last three rounds in his clip, he goes to reload and realises hes been fataly wounded.
I think 99/100 times vincent would hav got the better of him but tonight he was unlucky.
00JakeR00 1 year ago
came into the world alone. and will leave alone
Rookiebrow 1 year ago
0:24-0:26 creepy....
Synicaalescape 1 year ago
"Hey Max...ein Kerl steigt in die U-Bahn, hier in LA, und stirbt...glaubst du, dass das irgendjemand mitkriegt?", einer der besten Zitate...
RaLes1000 1 year ago
I thought of an interesting, different ending. The shootout in the train happens, Cruise puts the magazine into his gun, then Cruise walks through, gun aimed, they sit down, he sits down and then some simple dialogue, such as was used in the original, but with Cruise's character just stating that Foxx should follow his advice from earlier, with a bit more added. Then Cruise checks his wound, sees that he's not going to make it and chooses to let them live, with a bit more dialogue before he dies
chrisnolanistheman 1 year ago
Yo, homie.......that my briefcase?
Lakerzrock10 1 year ago 28
@Lakerzrock10 Yeah. How about your wallet? Snatch! Boom Boom! Boom! Turn around and Boom! One more for good measure! Ruthless; professional and classic CQB tactics!
HerculesTAK 1 year ago
Tom is the only actor that would be able to make sympathising with vincent possible. An amazing job.
Overlord360 1 year ago 2
@Overlord360 your right, say what you will about Tom Cruise, but I think hes the only one who could pull this off
sexyhandmodel 1 year ago
@Overlord360 Yeah mate I acutally felt sorry for the guy throughout the film. Without a doubt one of the best films ever made.
lathesius 1 year ago
Cool. Thx!
libville 1 year ago
I have no Clue Why but I felt Bad for Vincent.
MatauReviews 1 year ago
@MatauReviews Yeah that's a great direction job, when you feel sorry for the supposed villain of the movie...you find out he's so lonely, and he's probably always been... and you feel sad for him. That's how I felt at least.
SuperApush 1 year ago
I NEED TO KNOW THE MUSIC FOR THE END
AssassinSi 1 year ago
@AssassinSi It's called "Requiem", by Antonio Pinto. ;)
noahova 1 year ago
@noahova thanks :)
AssassinSi 1 year ago
VINCENT IS MAN
99681655 1 year ago
Notice that just to the left of Vincent when the lights come back on after the shootout is an advertisement for Metro which says, "Life's too short for long names."
I thought that was pretty damn cool. You can see it right as he realizes he's been mortally wounded.
bretthauerseven 1 year ago
This Movie was great,In the Ending Part i liked when max protects annie and that she saves her so that way she wont be killed
JasielMartin92 1 year ago
The ending was good
JasielMartin92 1 year ago
One nice touch here-when Vincent goes to slide lock, he reflexively goes for the reload-which he doesn't have because he doesn't have his original gun and backup mag. Mann generally gets the gun stuff right, the one minor exception in this film is losing track of the round count a bit. In the "making of" DVD he states Vincent's gun is a .45. As best I know, an H&K USP in .45 has 10 round mags-perhaps 12 at nest with an extended base, thus the 16 rounds in the Fever club scene is not possible.
misterbill1911 1 year ago
@misterbill1911 Twelve for sure. Thirteen in forty, fifteen in nine. But the competition magazines do hold 16.
John234pwns 1 year ago
This scene is Really Good! A Really Good Train Scene!
I like the way Collateral is filmed! In a documentary style. I like Michael Mann's documentary style! I'm at Cleveland College of Art and Design, I'm studying to be a Filmmaker! And I would of loved to have directed a movie, like this one! Collateral is a Really Good Movie! Mann is a good Filmmaker! My dad loves him!
alnuggy 1 year ago
"Max! I do this for a living!"
art2000cc 1 year ago
@XDCabooseXDOwnzXD what are his dying words...I can't really catch it.
mfdyson 1 year ago
@mfdyson "Hey Max...a guy gets on the MTA here in LA dies....think anybody will notice?"
Fenner1976 1 year ago
@Fenner1976 Thanks, really appreciate it.
mfdyson 1 year ago
@mfdyson No problem. It's interesting what would have happened if Max hadn't shot Vincent? Would Vincent killed them both and completed his work, or would he have spared Max? One way of looking at it is, that during the course of the night, maybe Vincent sees Max as not just another cabbie, as Max dished out some home-truths to Vincent in his cab, which probably made Vincent respect Max a little more? Vincent relied on Max to drive him to his targets and might have had that in mind? Interesting.
Fenner1976 1 year ago
@Fenner1976 I can't help from wondering the same too; not sure as to why the director chose to end the story with Vincent dead. Personally, I would prefer a different ending with him alive. That's the only reason that kept me from buying the CD.
mfdyson 1 year ago
@mfdyson It's an interesting film-study really. Very little facts are known about the character of Vincent, apart from what he reveals in the course of the film. His mother died when he was a child, his father died of liver disease, and at some point he acquired the skills of a professional killer, probably an ex-special forces soldier turned rogue? Either way it's a travesty that Michael Mann and Cruise didn't get an Oscar for this film. However, it doesn't need one to be a truly great film.
Fenner1976 1 year ago
@Fenner1976 Couldn't agree more; both men should have won them. The criterias used by the panels to award the Oscars were just beyond comprehension.
mfdyson 1 year ago
@mfdyson True. Michael Mann always seems to get ignored at the Oscars. He has directed some superb films, as well as Collateral, movies such as Heat, The Last of the Mohicans with the brilliant Daniel Day Lewis, and most recently, Public Enemies with Johnny Depp as John Dillinger. Some directors are reknowned for producing some great work. Names such as Michael Mann, Clint Eastwood, Sam Mendes and Peter Weir to name but a few.
Fenner1976 1 year ago
i don't believe in happy ending, which is suggested - VIP, like that prosecutor won't be with ordinary taxi driver- no chance
CrystianMcOvsky 1 year ago
I loved the film but the ending ruined the whole film for me, what's next C3PO beats Darth Vadar? i think Vincent could of died from something else like an early gun shot wound or another injury where he was slowly bleeding to death.
Firing a gun for the first time is not as easy as it looks, Max would have to have fired a gun before to use a gun like that.
JReed1985 1 year ago
@JReed1985 maybe they were going to show, that pure luck decides about the score - such a greenhorn can by acciedent win such a profesionalist. but i don't believe in happy ending, which is suggested - VIP, like that prosecutor won't be with ordinary taxi driver- no chance
CrystianMcOvsky 1 year ago
@CrystianMcOvsky that could be the case, but not a good way for Vincent to die I believe there could of been better.
I've fired a 9mm handgun and believe me it's not as easy as it looks when Max fired it.
JReed1985 1 year ago
@JReed1985
maybe he has fired one before. just not as often as Vincent. and he did start shooting first, so it's still somewhat plausible.
also, if Vincent got an injury that he didn't realize he was dying, we wouldn't have had this epic ending :P
just saying
oAzREZNoR 1 year ago
@oAzREZNoR could be that Max has used a firearm before but I do still think Vincent getting hit by Max wasn't epic just somewhat a crap way for him to die but you have your opinion mate and I have mine.
JReed1985 1 year ago
@JReed1985 No Vincent does a trademark execution called " The Mozambique Drill." He is supposed to fire two in the chest and one in the head like all his other corpses evaluated by the Medical Examiner earlier in the movie. But instead his persistent shooting hits stainless steel doors shaped like a human body with windows nowhere near where he's supposed to hit. Robert Deniro did this in Michael Mann's movie "Heat" to a character named "Waingro."
IMFDB 1 year ago
@IMFDB yeah I think I remember something like that from the film.
JReed1985 1 year ago
The moment that Vincent dropped the clip is the moment that we realize he is dying. It gave me the chills, yet it was still a little sad, since Max brought out the innocent side of Vincent (Vincent wasn't going to kill Max anyway, he had a shit-load of respect for him believe-it-or-not).
EventuallyWeMerge 1 year ago
haha the granny just sitting there! LOL
Jonebag99 1 year ago
gotta love Cruise in thise film.. one of his best
PennyWisee14 1 year ago