I don't know why, but it makes me happy that there are cultures still out there who are not "industrialized" by the modern world. despite being in africa, these people seem healthy, happy, honorable and without regret.
i can't say the same thing for lots of people in western world. just something to think about.
@Kalferzu Being human, some probably have health problems, emotional challenges, and other issues to deal with, much like the rest of us. Being "in africa" does not preclude health or happiness, but we must remember that no society is completely free from strife. It does often seem that our own society has not developed as sustainable approach to life, though.
@BlassKain17 That depends. A clear glass with water sure is clear but an ocean is blue even when it's 10000meters deep and even if you view it from space so neither sky nor bottom needs to affect it and it still appears blue because it absorbs the other colors in the spectrum better. Hence it's blue (or dark blue I guess when it's deep). The depth of the water directly affects how it absorbs light hence different depths gives different color.
@BlassKain17 What I'm saying is it's blue even if the sky wouldn't have been. As I said even if you're above the atmosphere (in space) the oceans are blue. The reason water is blue in oceans is not only because of reflection it's blue even when it's completely cloudy, I should know I work at sea after all. It's because of how water absorbs light.
@BlassKain17 And oceans is water. The wavelength of the light reflected by water depends on how deep the water reflecting it is, therefor water does not have a constant color. Wavelength is color afterall.
@BlassKain17 I quote this from wiki, "pure water has a slight blue tint that becomes a deeper blue as the thickness of the observed sample increases. The blue hue of water is an intrinsic property and is caused by selective absorption and scattering of white light"
I saw right away that the top right square is different, it's more yellow than the others. Ultimately colour and language are processed in different parts of the brain. Normal human eyes have three different cones which are the building blocks for colour vision are the same for all people. This documentary is bullshit.
@thefreeflowification Everyone that researches in this knows the physioligy behind color vision. That's not what they are talking about in this part of the documentary (they do earlier though). They are talking about that color as we percieve it is ALSO influenced by other things going on in our brain, for example how we categorize colors. In other words two different people that views light of the same wavelenght percieves the color differently.
I've thought about something similar, but not exactly, like this ever since I started smoking pot. My color wheel and someone else's could be totally different and exactly the same at the same time. What I see as blue, someone else could see as the same color that I see as red. It's all determent on how the brain sees it and when someone told us "this is blue" when we were children. Your color wheel could just be different shades of "my" brown but we can both determine the same area is purple.
@mcalte19 Well, yes exactly... the visible light frequency is the same across the universe, and the structure of the eye is almost the same for all humans, yet we all see everything differently in different ways, like the Eskimos and their different shades of white, for example.
Now, the most funny and sad thing about it is that most of us will never even question if they see the same as others, we just assume that the other sees what we see.
it all your brain converting photon light in to electronic signals & in reality they are only doin what they are asked be cause in there language they connect different colors together with one name because the different name's don't have that much to do with color it's the different shades that they name. research it & draw your own conclusion.
Does anyone else think all the squares look the same at 5:23, but when you see the screen that the man is looking at at 5:32, it's easy to see the odd one out?
Are they retarded? Obviously the language center will react when seeing colors since you have learned the word for BLUE. If you see a cow you will think of the word cow..
@PickingRandomly So when you go into a room, you just start naming and describing everything in the room? You may see that the walls are blue, but you don't think 'the walls are blue, the chair is black, there's a gold fan...'
@PickingRandomly what this is saying is if they had the same word for cow and cat, if you put a cow and cat beside each other, they wouldn't be able to differentaite them. don't get so hostile because you don't understand a concept.
@PickingRandomly i sincerely doubt they're retarded since they're doing pre-doc/post-doc studies on this stuff. you don't get that far by being very retarded. they're talking about the way a language classifies color could have a very real effect on the way you actually see and interpret colors.
@ExclaimedMusic Nah... It's just a retard who thinks he's smarter than he really is. lets see him pick out the green in the first test. Bet he couldn't do it to save his life. Then by his definition... He would be retarded. Good luck trolling life bro. (not you Exclaimed lol)
I'm saying it's easier to spot the different green when watching filmed footage, which falsifies the colours, than watching it with your own eyes where the colours are much closer to each other.
@NwZ2 I didn't take it an an indication of surprise so much as an appreciation. The woman shown participating in the experiment was especially lovely, I thought.
@jonathanvercetti no, 9gag learned something from reddit. reddit learned something from 4chan. ergo, you learned something from 4chan. welcome to the internet.
At 5:25 when they show the color wheel, I don't see a difference. But at 5:33 it's obvious that the odd square out is a lighter green. I think they're just messing with us.
@imamagedude after some quick analysis I found that the image at 5:25 is somehow a mirrored version of the one at 5:33. No idea how they managed to do that.
I wonder if this could be directly translated to other things, how we taste, smell, how we hear things? And then from those who what we think, why we come to the conclutions we come to?
If language changes how we see colors, does it mean with a certain language we could be color-blind? Also with a special kind of language we would be able to differentiate hundreds of colors easily?
I'm a Spanish native speaker and I could easily distinguish between two kinds of green. Even though, I believe that the colour categories between Spanish and English are not that much different o.o
The image of the squares at 5:23 it's the same as 5:32 but its inverted(the right is now at the left) I could notice the different green at 5:23 by closing one eye and looking square by square try it out. This documental is amazing our brain associates different tones of colors depending on how we name them. What if it's the same with sounds?
The "scientist" points to a different square than the narrator pointed out. This is a faking facts and should convince us of this postmodern study. Colors are as objective as anything and the human mind can really know the physical world.
@outsidemendham I was slightly confused myself, but it could be because it was a different part of the experiment & the break in continuity is due to how documentaries are shot. If you look at one of the shots of the TV screen before the image is shown to us that the narrator explains, you can see that the square the scientist later points to has a slightly different green color. Our perception of the world is never fully 'objective', there are so many factors influencing how we interpret data.
I had already thought about this question before, but considering not colours but general objects... our brain is so potent it can manipulate our conceptions of the world to be different from the other ones.
How is this surprising? When a baby hears it's mother's voice, the brain attempts to categorize the auditory stimuli as well as it can, but the input is little more to the baby than a collection of vaguely familiar grunting sounds. Once proficiency in language is attained however, a direct link is forged between the sound of a word and it's meaning. Likewise when we hear someone speaking in a foreign language, our brains process the auditory input differently than someone who is fluent.
It was really kind of you to take your time to tell me (in a very polite way) that I misunderstood something and that you explained how it is instead.
Oh wait, you didn’t.
Thanks anyway, for letting me know, that I “don't get the point”.
The colour-wheel at 5'25" and its counterpart at 5'42" are reversed. Christ knows why.
(Also, the woman at 5'14" is *gorgeous*; although I daresay that sentiment has as much to do with a relative absence of 'colour perception' as anything else.)
@cosmiclounge Randomization reduces the effects of variables that are not part of the experimental design. Maybe these people will start looking in the top right corner, and we in the bottom left, causing statistical bias if the "different color" is always in the same place.
They also would've had to randomize the order of the experiments, the brightness of the surroundings(~time of day), etc.
@cosmiclounge (2) They probably didn't properly randomize the subject's expectancy, memories, age, mood, the color's shapes, confirmation, the background, ... I believe many of these could have polluted the data.
It may sound stupid, but for example it's very possible these people's brains have specialized in recognizing colors they've often seen before, such as shades of green with which they can recognize edible/non-edible plants. They've probably never even seen the cyan at 7:03.
@missmertueil, I was being serious. I can't detect Hazel. I know it is hazel because it is a color I can't see at all. To me it looks like a brown mixed with green, yellow, etc. My brain sees it as a light brown yellow-green but sometimes it just appears GOLD so when they presented the colors..I saw it colored goldish green. It stuck out to me like a sore thumb. As for blue..I easily saw it...however my ancestors would have done what the Africans have done.. dumbfounded XD!
.... ?? This doesn't even mention the existence of photo-sensible cells in the retina... maybe their cells are sensible to different wave-length than western people ??
No mention of how colorblind people can't see certain colors...
it's smells like pseudo-science...
They should have began investigating with this, and searched for other explanations if that failed.
@qsdf38100 I doubt someone could get funding to fly to Africa and do these tests if it were pseudo science with nothing to sell, only knowledge. I agree that the development of the colour cones in the eyes could possibly mutate, but the actual study was to determine if people in different cultures and language see differently. Seeing as they (more than likely) tested people of African descent in western countries, they would be able to compare that data and determine if it was genes or language.
@SoloTheTraveller Most likely the same way you see the world, because he only learned their language as a second language, he didn't grow up with it presumably. When he learned this new language, it wasn't in the critical period during which it would have altered his brain to recognize colors differently.
Don't these colors have specific measurable wavelengths though? Wouldn't the two greens be way closer in the spectrum than the blue and green was? I don't get how they cant see a difference like that.
@gregory06 Most all colors are a large spectrum or set of wavelengths... almost never a single wavelength. Perhaps that screen could display a spectrum which would average out to the same green to us, but different colors to them. And then later it could average out to blue for us, but look very similar to them. Another factor is how many cells we have in our eyes for each color type. I think cameras have to undersaturate certain primary colors (is it green? blue?) to look "natural" to us.
@gregory06 I should also note that we can perceive colors that have no specific wavelength at all. Only the rainbow colors have a specific wavelength. Colors like brown don't exist in the rainbow. I think the same is true for shades of pink and purple.
well all colours have a specific hue, saturation and brightness. it seems that they can easily distinguish saturations of the same hue, but have a problem telling apart different hues if the saturation is the same. While for us it's obviously the other way around.
It's fascinating how the brain is able to adapt and forms completely different ways of interpreting the input it gets from the eyes.
@Hurricane2k8 dude that's a freaking astute observation (that they are good at seeing differences in saturation rather than hue) did you just think of this?
It's interesting to theorize why. One reason might be due to their Savannah environment where the flat landscape means objects can be recognized from long distances. However many animals have camouflage and it may be more advantageous to optimize towards detecting CONTRAST (IE changes in saturation) rather than hue (trees are trees)
actually that was like the first thought i came up with when looking at this. I guess you're right with our thought about animals sticking out more with their colour vision, whie for us it's basically all different shades of the same colours.
The next question that comes to my mind though is, why did we develop a different system of interpreting colours? What advantage did we get from distinguishing hues rather than saturations and giving up their abilities?
maybe we developed "our" colour vision during the neolithic agricultural revolution? suddenly the ability to tell apart hues became useful to determine wether it's time to harvest or not (if the crop is green, it still needs time to grow).
It's interesting to think about things like these.
i would love to see the world with their eyes (or, more precisely their brains) just for a day. I guess i wouldn't be able to handle it longer, but this must be really interesting.
The Himba are extremely good looking - I've long found their women hot as.
Lyphatma 1 day ago
I don't know why, but it makes me happy that there are cultures still out there who are not "industrialized" by the modern world. despite being in africa, these people seem healthy, happy, honorable and without regret.
i can't say the same thing for lots of people in western world. just something to think about.
and I agree. this tribe is very beautiful.
Kalferzu 4 days ago
@Kalferzu Being human, some probably have health problems, emotional challenges, and other issues to deal with, much like the rest of us. Being "in africa" does not preclude health or happiness, but we must remember that no society is completely free from strife. It does often seem that our own society has not developed as sustainable approach to life, though.
VarnaVix 1 day ago
who the fuck says water is blue?? it's CLEAR lol
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qweq3 1 week ago
@BlassKain17 That depends. A clear glass with water sure is clear but an ocean is blue even when it's 10000meters deep and even if you view it from space so neither sky nor bottom needs to affect it and it still appears blue because it absorbs the other colors in the spectrum better. Hence it's blue (or dark blue I guess when it's deep). The depth of the water directly affects how it absorbs light hence different depths gives different color.
softan 1 week ago
@softan yea I know the ocean reflects the color of the sky but where they talking about oceans or water?
BlassKain17 1 week ago
@BlassKain17 What I'm saying is it's blue even if the sky wouldn't have been. As I said even if you're above the atmosphere (in space) the oceans are blue. The reason water is blue in oceans is not only because of reflection it's blue even when it's completely cloudy, I should know I work at sea after all. It's because of how water absorbs light.
softan 1 week ago
@softan okay I understand now, are you a fisherman?
BlassKain17 1 week ago
@BlassKain17 And oceans is water. The wavelength of the light reflected by water depends on how deep the water reflecting it is, therefor water does not have a constant color. Wavelength is color afterall.
softan 1 week ago
@BlassKain17 I quote this from wiki, "pure water has a slight blue tint that becomes a deeper blue as the thickness of the observed sample increases. The blue hue of water is an intrinsic property and is caused by selective absorption and scattering of white light"
softan 1 week ago
I saw right away that the top right square is different, it's more yellow than the others. Ultimately colour and language are processed in different parts of the brain. Normal human eyes have three different cones which are the building blocks for colour vision are the same for all people. This documentary is bullshit.
thefreeflowification 2 weeks ago
@thefreeflowification Everyone that researches in this knows the physioligy behind color vision. That's not what they are talking about in this part of the documentary (they do earlier though). They are talking about that color as we percieve it is ALSO influenced by other things going on in our brain, for example how we categorize colors. In other words two different people that views light of the same wavelenght percieves the color differently.
softan 1 week ago
How did the translator do on those tests?
BKman1088 2 weeks ago
It's called a "Baby Lab". That is awesome.
Econniff 2 weeks ago
Fascinating, this blew my mind.....damn you Joe rogan
afglakeshow81 2 weeks ago
i must be high
EnassiClothing 2 weeks ago
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HexicNexus 2 weeks ago
This blew me away. This means what we see is a kind of illution?
mikebrisebois 2 weeks ago
thumbs up if you picked the odd green color out before they told you what it was.
Doughty1988 2 weeks ago 5
I've thought about something similar, but not exactly, like this ever since I started smoking pot. My color wheel and someone else's could be totally different and exactly the same at the same time. What I see as blue, someone else could see as the same color that I see as red. It's all determent on how the brain sees it and when someone told us "this is blue" when we were children. Your color wheel could just be different shades of "my" brown but we can both determine the same area is purple.
mcalte19 2 weeks ago
@mcalte19 Well, yes exactly... the visible light frequency is the same across the universe, and the structure of the eye is almost the same for all humans, yet we all see everything differently in different ways, like the Eskimos and their different shades of white, for example.
Now, the most funny and sad thing about it is that most of us will never even question if they see the same as others, we just assume that the other sees what we see.
gundrust 2 weeks ago 2
@gundrust It's more sad than funny, but I definitely agree.
mcalte19 2 weeks ago
I noticed that I could only see the odd green when the screen was filmed farther away. When it was filmed close I could not see it at all.
BlindMaphisto 2 weeks ago
it all your brain converting photon light in to electronic signals & in reality they are only doin what they are asked be cause in there language they connect different colors together with one name because the different name's don't have that much to do with color it's the different shades that they name. research it & draw your own conclusion.
Jaymilliair2012 3 weeks ago
@dantgood Yea I agree. Strange....
UltraFlames 3 weeks ago
At 5:40 , when I close my laptop lid a few inches, it becomes obvious which one if different.
JakDerrida 4 weeks ago 2
im just thinking about all the colors im not seeing right now......
mka6585 4 weeks ago 2
Does anyone else think all the squares look the same at 5:23, but when you see the screen that the man is looking at at 5:32, it's easy to see the odd one out?
dantgood 4 weeks ago 5
Damn Matrix, I knew it!
MrFloris 4 weeks ago
Really makes you think about perception and reality. The human mind... we have so much to learn!
moezephead 4 weeks ago
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princessnerdfighter 4 weeks ago
Are they retarded? Obviously the language center will react when seeing colors since you have learned the word for BLUE. If you see a cow you will think of the word cow..
PickingRandomly 4 weeks ago
@PickingRandomly So when you go into a room, you just start naming and describing everything in the room? You may see that the walls are blue, but you don't think 'the walls are blue, the chair is black, there's a gold fan...'
orsoscroot 4 weeks ago
@PickingRandomly what this is saying is if they had the same word for cow and cat, if you put a cow and cat beside each other, they wouldn't be able to differentaite them. don't get so hostile because you don't understand a concept.
Yressa 4 weeks ago 2
@PickingRandomly i sincerely doubt they're retarded since they're doing pre-doc/post-doc studies on this stuff. you don't get that far by being very retarded. they're talking about the way a language classifies color could have a very real effect on the way you actually see and interpret colors.
afkhajiit 4 weeks ago
@afkhajiit
I can tell you here and now that no, it doesn't. Only merit I have is high intelligence and rational thinking.
PickingRandomly 4 weeks ago
@PickingRandomly Watch out guys, we're dealing with a badass over here.
ExclaimedMusic 2 weeks ago
@ExclaimedMusic Nah... It's just a retard who thinks he's smarter than he really is. lets see him pick out the green in the first test. Bet he couldn't do it to save his life. Then by his definition... He would be retarded. Good luck trolling life bro. (not you Exclaimed lol)
NUKEaZOID 2 weeks ago
Max looks crazy as fuck
thecheeseboy 4 weeks ago
So what hes trying to say is that if 50cent lived in Africa his Blue Lambo would be Green....? Miracles.!
rockwitit123 4 weeks ago
I actually spotted the different green easily. It was much more yellowish than the others.
JakDerrida 4 weeks ago 4
@JakDerrida me too, kinda felt like a superhuman when i saw it
sn06daniel 4 weeks ago
@JakDerrida
the difference is, you're watching filmed footage of a monitor on your own monitor.
i bet it's not that easy when sitting in front of a medical grade IPS panel.
Hurricane2k8 3 weeks ago
@Hurricane2k8 You're saying it should be HARDER to see the different color watching BETTER grade footage??
Please explain.
JakDerrida 3 weeks ago
@JakDerrida
I'm saying it's easier to spot the different green when watching filmed footage, which falsifies the colours, than watching it with your own eyes where the colours are much closer to each other.
Hurricane2k8 2 weeks ago
anyone else find the people in that tribe to be very good looking?
ChillaxedJosh 4 weeks ago 60
@ChillaxedJosh Anyone else find it odd that you'd be surprised that they are??
NwZ2 4 weeks ago
@NwZ2 I didn't take it an an indication of surprise so much as an appreciation. The woman shown participating in the experiment was especially lovely, I thought.
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aescylos 2 weeks ago
@ChillaxedJosh If you mean the girl at 5:08, you're not wrong. ;-)
Conway79 1 week ago
Did anyone else think that this transition 7:42 was surprisingly uncomfortable? Why did they do that?
Volcanic9 4 weeks ago
i learned something in 9gag.
jonathanvercetti 1 month ago
@jonathanvercetti no, 9gag learned something from reddit. reddit learned something from 4chan. ergo, you learned something from 4chan. welcome to the internet.
ezzadan 4 weeks ago
@ezzadan 4chan learned from futaba
khosrow 4 weeks ago
really interesting!!
lb19920 1 month ago
At 5:25 when they show the color wheel, I don't see a difference. But at 5:33 it's obvious that the odd square out is a lighter green. I think they're just messing with us.
Sigma9870 1 month ago 4
@Sigma9870 It's probably youtube's encoding screwing with the colors
imamagedude 1 month ago
@imamagedude after some quick analysis I found that the image at 5:25 is somehow a mirrored version of the one at 5:33. No idea how they managed to do that.
717i 1 month ago 2
9gag sucks
GeoffMezzanine 1 month ago
We only have eleven words to describe color?
Digeridude 1 month ago
Is 9gag the new reddit knockoff?
nyctoo 1 month ago
I wonder if this could be directly translated to other things, how we taste, smell, how we hear things? And then from those who what we think, why we come to the conclutions we come to?
caffi1 2 months ago
7 people couldn't tell the difference between thumbs up and thumbs down.
loyatdaexplode 2 months ago
9gag brought you here
SpickeyMomme 2 months ago
Absolutely amazing
Finky27 2 months ago
very awesome stuff!
Weirdgus 2 months ago
huh i have no problem with green...
Gothic5556 2 months ago
@Gothic5556 me neither - only the red in the trafick light i ovten oversee .....:-D
CapitanoGUC 1 month ago
If language changes how we see colors, does it mean with a certain language we could be color-blind? Also with a special kind of language we would be able to differentiate hundreds of colors easily?
Sambilu 2 months ago
@Sambilu thats why you need to be carfull at the trafick light if you are abroad - in some countrys green means red and the other way arround ....:-D
CapitanoGUC 1 month ago
9gag
Mackfabio 2 months ago
Would it be stupid to take a Wittgensteinian approach to this finding?
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Sapir and Whorf brought me here...
razveck 2 months ago
thumbs up if 9gag brought you here XD
ClaireHitachiin 2 months ago 5
ye, shut up BBC :D
i like that tribal chick
Sirooba 2 months ago
I'm a Spanish native speaker and I could easily distinguish between two kinds of green. Even though, I believe that the colour categories between Spanish and English are not that much different o.o
YkronRobe 2 months ago
wonderful
Ashkalan 2 months ago
this is amazing
szasz85b 2 months ago
9gag :D
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9gag :P
lewa434 2 months ago 2
"In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it."
nikolavgeorgiev 2 months ago
Am I the only one who saw a vague difference instantly in the ones that were easy for them?
kaa3164 2 months ago 3
@kaa3164 yep.
Rudyyy01 2 months ago
God bless 9gag :D
0104ice 2 months ago
I saw it. I just wasn't sure though.
aronzei 2 months ago
and I keep learning from 9gag...^^
didorock 2 months ago
that is so cool! my childhood ponderings have been validated!
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MrSlowner 2 months ago
9gag sucks
starfox300 2 months ago
@starfox300
you suck!
Albino1701 2 months ago
who did not understand annything ?
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@lamthoihai00 *anything
0104ice 2 months ago
well, 9gag :D
MrMichaelSVK 2 months ago
aliens
xaolang77 2 months ago
The narrator woman has the same accent as Eloise Hawking from LOST.
NihilistMachinery 2 months ago
@NihilistMachinery I mean the exact same as far as I hear.
NihilistMachinery 2 months ago
YES, BITCHES! 9GAG brought us all here.
mrazzzzzhristov 2 months ago 4
@mrazzzzzhristov I was expecting a rick roll :P :D
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9gag :D
Marureenu 2 months ago 2
mindfuck
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9GAG
Bakkennnn 2 months ago
The image of the squares at 5:23 it's the same as 5:32 but its inverted(the right is now at the left) I could notice the different green at 5:23 by closing one eye and looking square by square try it out. This documental is amazing our brain associates different tones of colors depending on how we name them. What if it's the same with sounds?
ricardoelizondot 2 months ago 3
@ricardoelizondot
The "scientist" points to a different square than the narrator pointed out. This is a faking facts and should convince us of this postmodern study. Colors are as objective as anything and the human mind can really know the physical world.
outsidemendham 2 months ago
@outsidemendham I was slightly confused myself, but it could be because it was a different part of the experiment & the break in continuity is due to how documentaries are shot. If you look at one of the shots of the TV screen before the image is shown to us that the narrator explains, you can see that the square the scientist later points to has a slightly different green color. Our perception of the world is never fully 'objective', there are so many factors influencing how we interpret data.
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trollzilla 2 months ago 2
Looking up at a tree where the green leaves meet the blue sky, would the himba be able to tell the difference?
DaixKun 2 months ago
im not himba and i was able to spot the different green collored square on first sight... fail theory
wedingo 2 months ago
I didn't get here from Smosh. 9gag FTW!
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lololol0007 2 months ago 299
Conspiracy Keanu, it's TRUE!
Collinmenubcakes 2 months ago 70
@Collinmenubcakes You think that's blue you're seeing?
pwolter0 4 weeks ago
Thumbs up se reconhecem esta tribo do programa " Perdidos na tribo"
Dajo8222 2 months ago 3
I had already thought about this question before, but considering not colours but general objects... our brain is so potent it can manipulate our conceptions of the world to be different from the other ones.
drevilrodrigues 2 months ago
In that monitor i see different green, like when they show us actually green squares on full screen. They look exactly same.
XiOgar 2 months ago
How is this surprising? When a baby hears it's mother's voice, the brain attempts to categorize the auditory stimuli as well as it can, but the input is little more to the baby than a collection of vaguely familiar grunting sounds. Once proficiency in language is attained however, a direct link is forged between the sound of a word and it's meaning. Likewise when we hear someone speaking in a foreign language, our brains process the auditory input differently than someone who is fluent.
screamtrumpetguy 2 months ago
What's the title of this documentary?
wavylava 2 months ago
wow thats mad that was so clear to me that is was blue but they couldn't even see a difference. just shows how much a language can shap a culture.
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like if anthony sent u here
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RentIsToDamnHigh 2 months ago
Thumbs up if you could see the difference!
ahgnisanuguSapuliN 2 months ago
So… if I would marry a Himba and our children would grow up bilingual then they could technically see more colours than me and my husband, right?
mMeFlora 2 months ago
@mMeFlora no
Hayden1911 2 months ago
@mMeFlora You don't get the point.
Pampanerios 2 months ago
@Pampanerios Thank you.
It was really kind of you to take your time to tell me (in a very polite way) that I misunderstood something and that you explained how it is instead.
Oh wait, you didn’t.
Thanks anyway, for letting me know, that I “don't get the point”.
mMeFlora 2 months ago 2
wow...
Alexxyk 2 months ago
ssssssssssmosh c:
bellavator94 2 months ago
This is really fascinating.
MsGrunz 2 months ago
Anthony (from smosh) brought me here and I'm so glad coz that's pretty strange/amazing...
Misheequa 2 months ago 7
@Misheequa same
Phillipoosas 2 months ago
Smosh!!!!
RedBullBrothers 2 months ago
wow
awsmNG 2 months ago
I don't think this video is very accurate. When they showed us all the colors at 5:22, I couldn't tell which one was different.
But at 5:33, when we were looking at what the test subject was seeing, I could easily tell which one was different.
wetterdew 3 months ago
@wetterdew must be the lightings. i must say it's pretty amazing what they can see, we cant see.
AzeriXify 2 months ago
Does anyone know where I can watch the full episode?
AgentKuo 3 months ago
mind = blown
TmoVie93 3 months ago 3
Do you excluded daltonism or such viasual defects in the people you tested? The result of this experiment is simply amazing!
arkanoid1980 3 months ago
i can see it, may have something to do with me being good at painting.
robin22391 3 months ago
The colour-wheel at 5'25" and its counterpart at 5'42" are reversed. Christ knows why.
(Also, the woman at 5'14" is *gorgeous*; although I daresay that sentiment has as much to do with a relative absence of 'colour perception' as anything else.)
cosmiclounge 3 months ago
@cosmiclounge Randomization reduces the effects of variables that are not part of the experimental design. Maybe these people will start looking in the top right corner, and we in the bottom left, causing statistical bias if the "different color" is always in the same place.
They also would've had to randomize the order of the experiments, the brightness of the surroundings(~time of day), etc.
Theelepeltjel 3 months ago
@cosmiclounge (2) They probably didn't properly randomize the subject's expectancy, memories, age, mood, the color's shapes, confirmation, the background, ... I believe many of these could have polluted the data.
It may sound stupid, but for example it's very possible these people's brains have specialized in recognizing colors they've often seen before, such as shades of green with which they can recognize edible/non-edible plants. They've probably never even seen the cyan at 7:03.
Theelepeltjel 3 months ago
TIL I'm not a Himba
A3DFX 3 months ago
"While we have eleven words to describe color - the himba have half the amount." So they have 5 1/12 words????
heyryanleys 3 months ago
@heyryanleys No, 5 words but because their words have a broader meaning than ours, it equates to roughly 5.5, yes.
OshiSeven 3 months ago
I easily saw the green that was different
NeCacaluXuxultic 3 months ago
@NeCacaluXuxultic you are a statistical anomaly
missmertueil 3 months ago
@missmertueil, I was being serious. I can't detect Hazel. I know it is hazel because it is a color I can't see at all. To me it looks like a brown mixed with green, yellow, etc. My brain sees it as a light brown yellow-green but sometimes it just appears GOLD so when they presented the colors..I saw it colored goldish green. It stuck out to me like a sore thumb. As for blue..I easily saw it...however my ancestors would have done what the Africans have done.. dumbfounded XD!
NeCacaluXuxultic 3 months ago
.... ?? This doesn't even mention the existence of photo-sensible cells in the retina... maybe their cells are sensible to different wave-length than western people ??
No mention of how colorblind people can't see certain colors...
it's smells like pseudo-science...
They should have began investigating with this, and searched for other explanations if that failed.
BBC :(
qsdf38100 3 months ago 2
@qsdf38100 I'm fairly certain the scientific study would take that into account... you're just getting the 'simple man's version' from the BBC
Astronaut890 3 months ago
@qsdf38100 I doubt someone could get funding to fly to Africa and do these tests if it were pseudo science with nothing to sell, only knowledge. I agree that the development of the colour cones in the eyes could possibly mutate, but the actual study was to determine if people in different cultures and language see differently. Seeing as they (more than likely) tested people of African descent in western countries, they would be able to compare that data and determine if it was genes or language.
OshiSeven 3 months ago
So how does the translator see the world?
SoloTheTraveller 3 months ago 6
@SoloTheTraveller Most likely the same way you see the world, because he only learned their language as a second language, he didn't grow up with it presumably. When he learned this new language, it wasn't in the critical period during which it would have altered his brain to recognize colors differently.
wetterdew 3 months ago
At 5:32 so easí to the different green. But at 5:23 i don't see any diference beween the squares...
So my tip is... The camera was sucks. :D
And the paint neither found any difference. at 5:23. xDDD So something is wrong.
btibor91 4 months ago
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btibor91 4 months ago
Give them all the different colours and ask them to paint the world as they see it! :)
Mammadooo 4 months ago 7
Pretty lady..
swedisagnostic 4 months ago 3
Don't these colors have specific measurable wavelengths though? Wouldn't the two greens be way closer in the spectrum than the blue and green was? I don't get how they cant see a difference like that.
gregory06 4 months ago
@gregory06 Most all colors are a large spectrum or set of wavelengths... almost never a single wavelength. Perhaps that screen could display a spectrum which would average out to the same green to us, but different colors to them. And then later it could average out to blue for us, but look very similar to them. Another factor is how many cells we have in our eyes for each color type. I think cameras have to undersaturate certain primary colors (is it green? blue?) to look "natural" to us.
mindacid 4 months ago
@gregory06 I should also note that we can perceive colors that have no specific wavelength at all. Only the rainbow colors have a specific wavelength. Colors like brown don't exist in the rainbow. I think the same is true for shades of pink and purple.
mindacid 4 months ago
@gregory06
well all colours have a specific hue, saturation and brightness. it seems that they can easily distinguish saturations of the same hue, but have a problem telling apart different hues if the saturation is the same. While for us it's obviously the other way around.
It's fascinating how the brain is able to adapt and forms completely different ways of interpreting the input it gets from the eyes.
Hurricane2k8 4 months ago 2
@Hurricane2k8 dude that's a freaking astute observation (that they are good at seeing differences in saturation rather than hue) did you just think of this?
It's interesting to theorize why. One reason might be due to their Savannah environment where the flat landscape means objects can be recognized from long distances. However many animals have camouflage and it may be more advantageous to optimize towards detecting CONTRAST (IE changes in saturation) rather than hue (trees are trees)
ambertch 4 months ago
@ambertch
actually that was like the first thought i came up with when looking at this. I guess you're right with our thought about animals sticking out more with their colour vision, whie for us it's basically all different shades of the same colours.
The next question that comes to my mind though is, why did we develop a different system of interpreting colours? What advantage did we get from distinguishing hues rather than saturations and giving up their abilities?
Hurricane2k8 3 months ago
@ambertch
cont:
maybe we developed "our" colour vision during the neolithic agricultural revolution? suddenly the ability to tell apart hues became useful to determine wether it's time to harvest or not (if the crop is green, it still needs time to grow).
It's interesting to think about things like these.
Hurricane2k8 3 months ago
:o
xneodym 4 months ago
so i guess this means if a himba watches this video, he will think "wtf are these guys talking about"
thehorsehunter 4 months ago
i would love to see the world with their eyes (or, more precisely their brains) just for a day. I guess i wouldn't be able to handle it longer, but this must be really interesting.
Hurricane2k8 4 months ago
Amazing.
MuddaphuckinG 4 months ago