Just wondering... whatever happened to the visions these men had? Their ideas?
Today we have people who think that taxing people into the ground is a smart thing, and that spending money you don't have to fund out of control welfare states is even smarter. Today they read speeches written by somebody else from teleprompters.
If those men would be set into today's world, they'd break out the ugly stick and would start beating up our so called leaders. And rightfully so.
dahvisibleinvisible: I agree, this music kicks ass. I watched this in class and was like "GASP. Must buy this soundtrack," and my teacher was like "What the--You're supposed to be paying attention to the content, not the music!" xD
This song is called Promentory by Trevor Jones and is from the movie Last of the Mohicans. But this version from John Adams is the best. Vangelis also has a version.
I wish Canada would do something like this with our history. The closest thing we have is "Canada a People's History," but I've seen them all. The US is great for celebrating the heroes in their past. I wish we were better at it.
It's annoying when people do that. They see good people in history and go to all this work to uncover deep dark secrets. I don't see why we can't just let heroes be heroic and leave it that way. I think George Washington was a good person who cared about the future of America. What's so wrong with that?
Its because Canada doesn't have the money or the industry to produce it. Remember it costs a lot of money to make movies and shows. Money rather spent on healthcare and looking after the nation.
I think the Americans can have their tv shows. We enjoy them just as much!
@rattis1 Ah, yes, because the American [government] produced amd financed this mini-series that was, subsequently, produced by Tom Hanks and financed by he himself and other organziations not necessarily affiliated with the American government. As for the latter portion of the initial segment of your comment, I don't much care for where this country's reserve is going.
@canadarox14 It's twofold. American's have more interesting , feisty history than we do, and they tell their history better than we do because they have pride while we have meekness. Face it Canada is a dull place and we are dull people.
@blacbraun Ouch, that's putting it a little bluntly. I agree with the part about Americans telling their history better, but I still believe Canadian history is just as interesting. I mean, I don't think I'm a dull person just because I'm Canadian. But then, I guess I am a little biased...
@comradeshow True that. They didn't really work, but they're fun to read about. I always joke about Papineau, one of Canada's most influential rebels, because he had pretty rockin hair. It keeps history class interesting.
Celebrating? I think they burned that bridge some time ago - it`s a question of worship by now. The Washington Monument, the touching care of Military Graveyards across the world, great scholars devoting their whole life to a certain time-period and doing every bit of justice to the men who made that era - that is celebrating. Movies and novels are something else (although I´d except this case)
@Faxe90Swe That's true that some of this stuff does border on hero worship, but I still think it's fantastic that the people in the past get recognition today, hundreds of years after their lifetimes. What do you mean by movies and novels doing something else?
Well, sometimes they let historic truth suffer for glorification. For example, In Saving Private Ryan, the Rangers are transported by American landing-crafts with American crews, when in fact they were taken in by British crafts by British crews. In The Patriot, the best example, the Americans appear to win the battle of Guilford Courthouse when they in fact lost that battle, and Cornwallis is depicted as a old, grumpy rear-stationed general...
But in essence I agree with you, many great men of many great nations deserve celebration today, but they very seldomly get it, and in the long run it does the United States credit that they know to appreciate and show interest in their past deeds and the men performing them. But it`s no good when celebration turns into distortion at the expense of one´s own as well as other countries´ heroes.
@Faxe90Swe You put that really well, thanks. I totally agree. The Patriot is a perfect example of warping history for the sake of an exciting story, (and thanks for pointing out that stuff about Cornwallis. I always liked than guy.) I think they did a much better job with John Adams. We see him as human with human flaws, but we also get to appreciate what he accomplished. It strikes a good balance.
is that seriously a compliment to american teachers? wow, that's a new one. UK students I met are plenty bright, though, US are a little weak on non-American history.
damn good miniseries, but A LOT of historical inaccuracies (John Adams' children weren't as old as depicted at the beginning of the miniseries, etc). But THE MOST AGGRAVATING INACCURACY was that Adams and the majority of the Founding Fathers being Christians wasn't even mentioned or referenced in this otherwise interesting and educational miniseries.
ehhh Unitarian is a Christian faith... its just not catholic rather it falls under the category of protestant. Like formerly most American Christians fall under the founding fathers were pretty much all different branches of Christianity.
Unitarianism comes from the humanist tradition, but it was born out of the Protestand tradition. Unitarians are not Christians; just ask any Unitarian. Deism, which Washington, Jefferson, Madison, and Franklin embraced, did not come from the Christian tradition.
You need to recheck your facts bud; Unitarianism is a demonization of the Protestant tradition in Christianity. I dont know what your "humanist tradition is" Unitarianism as a few of them believed in, very much believed in existents of a God and Jesus. They were not as they would have described.
There is nothing demonic about Unitarians. Actually, if there were more, it would be reason to rejoice. Talk with any Unitarian at random and they will tell you they are humanists. It's a non-creedal church where free thought and rational thought hold sway. The Founding Fathers, like the Philosophes of Europe who influenced them, held that reason and the autonomy of the individual has primacy over mystic "revelation." Those are not Christian values.
oh, Good Lord. u must be out of your mind. when you're doing a movie or mini-series based on a historical figure, CHECK ALL THE FACTS AND BLOODY WELL TRY TO BLOODY MENTION THEM OR AT LEAST BLOODY REFERENCE IT. BLOODY HELL.
Listen dude, their faiths weren't integral to their actions in public policy. Thank God, it helped ensure the separation of Church and State that seems to have disappeared during this administration.
I'm not saying their faith never existed. It just wasn't relevant. If it was relevant, this would be a theocracy. Ignoring details that don't link to anything else in this historical drama is not the same as an inaccuracy. Their faith in God didn't help them write the Declaration and the Constitution, as already stated many of them weren't even Christian.
The Founding Fathers wrote volumes full of philosophical material about the underpinnings of the revolution. They were, including Jefferson, Washington, Adams, Franklin, Paine, Hamilton all deists influenced heavily by among others Locke and Voltaire. Jefferson went so far as to explicitly reject the status of Jesus while at Wm. and Mary.
It seems you jerked around during history class in High School and ignored all this but that DOES NOT mean you can MAKE UP history and
Jefferson actually wrote his own version of the bible where he removed all of the "magic tricks" and just left the morality tales. Im still trying to find a copy of it.
If you had actually bothered to read Rousseau's Social Contract or any of Jefferson's or Adam's correspondence, you would have realized that the appearance of the word "God" in the Declaration of Independence is taken to mean "that which resulted in the laws of nature that govern reality". This of course is not pretty to write, but perhaps would have saved our country from a good deal of empty Fundamentalist rhetoric. It also corresponds with the deist conception of a "Silent Creator".
Well actually it was a bit of a weasel word- a lot of the Founders were Deists, which is not precisely a "god of nature" motif, some were non-believers, and some were ardent Protestants (but no Catholics or Jews). It was then, as it is now, a way of giving the appearance of propriety in a mostly Christian nation without sacralizing the state. I doubt severely the Rousseau so hated by a majority of the Founders had his Contract notes cribbed. The beauty was it left *nothing* defined.
@ShakespeareHamlet Sorry, I know your comment is 3 years old, but wanted to add my two cents about the John Adams show. You say that being Christians wasn't referenced in this, when it was actually. It's subtle but there. When going over the Declaration, Jefferson wrote a line that had religious meaning.. It was Ben Franklin who pointed out the line was to religious sounding, and he wanted separation of church and state.. and had Jefferson change the line so the religions context was taken out.
Amazing song! I must say Ron Paul would be the most like John Adams out of the politicians today. Obama is nothing at all like our founding fathers who believed in limited government. Obama is pro-big government. If America really wanted "change" then Ron Paul would have been nominated because real "change" would be returning to the principals that this country was founded on.
I used to be a Ron Paul supporter, but he is not like our Founding Fathers. Jefferson was responsible for the Louisiana Purchase, which indicates that he wanted to expand the nation despite being for a small national government. Obama fits the definition of socialist in my opinion. He is an awesome orator, but he is of the belief that government has all the answers, which will ultimately diminish individual freedom. I am very impressed with McCain's substance, but he is not the best speaker.
Well sir, I agree with you on 99% of your comment. However among all of our founding fathers, Ron Paul is the most like Thomas Jefferson. The Louisiana has nothing to do with Thomas Jefferson's belief that a limited and small central government was essential to Americans individual right. Jefferson stood strongly against a National Bank (what the Federal Reserve is today). Ron Paul is probably the most outspoken politician against the Federal Reserve that we have today.
As long as our government continues to run roughshod over other nations under the guise of truth, goodness and liberty, what hope do we have? There is basically no limit to where our military can be directed. In every case, we are always the good guys. The problem is we dont go to war for the American people anymore, we go to war for corporations. I'm offended that you could actually a former RP supporter that now backs McCain. Thats insane.
Ron Paul has some good ideas, but he has some negatives as well. I believe in the whole Bill of Rights and strongly defend the second amendment, as it is the one right that is attacked most often. However, Ron Paul's ideas are nothing new. For instance, he firmly believes in isolationism. Let's not forget that Thomas Jefferson attempted to spread our Constitutional-Representative Democracy to European countries, and he more then doubled the size of the U.S. through the Louisiana Purchase.
1. Of course Ron Paul's ideas are nothing new. Thats the entire point.
2. The entire problem of your argument is that you have been convinced that to avoid being an isolationist country, you have to have your military in 100+ nations. Sorry.
Fact is that Ron Paul believes in the free market, and anyone who believes in the free market cannot, by definition, be an isolationist. Its clear you dont know enough about Ron Paul to comment about him.
To be honest, your right, I do not know enough about Ron Paul. However, I have noticed that many hateful people, such as Neo-Nazi's appear to be fans of Ron Paul. That really concerns me! I am a Conservative- Republican and staunch supporter of the second amendment. In that spirit, I have no respect for those who subscribe to racism, whether it be Jesse Jackson or David Duke.
Fear undermines good judgment. You should react to what Ron Paul stands for, not whether or not a small group of people support his views. You must understand that there is always common ground between people, regardless of their interests.
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Obama is the closest to the founding fathers out of any politician out there today. He believes in the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to all citizens. If anything Obama represents a modern day John Adams. The founding fathers wanted freedom from tyranny and opression, look at what we're doing in Iraq, making other countries believe in our government policies, we have become the opresser, Obama wants to stop that. OBAMA 08
Obama is a classic modern day politician. An incredibly effective speaker no doubt, but his words ring hollow and his following is but a cult of personality.
This man will let you down. He is a politician, hand picked and supported by the party elite, undeniable corrupt and elitist rulers who are the prime forces of impedance in democracy.
You want to see a politician? Check out Paul. Check out Kucinich and Dodd. These are the modern day statesmen. Ignored by the media at by will of the elite.
@Battleloser He's not so good without a prompter. I worked hard for public speaking skills, I am a Boy Scout and am the Master of Ceremonies for our Courts of Honor. 57 states? Honestly.
@DeltaBravo1216 I know right!! I mean God forbid Sarah Palin's loses her hands...
Seriously did you have millions upon millions of media outlets at your Master of Ceremonies dissecting every word, every syllable you utter waiting for that right word to twist things around and publish?!? I'm not making excuses I'm just saying you only had to speak one day while Presidents, not just Obama, speak everyday and all day.
@dontworryaboutit2110 No offence, however there is i difference between a slip of the tongue, and screwing up something that should be innate. If someone asks you your name you don't say someone else's name, if someone asked me my country of origin I wouldn't say British Columbia! If someone asks me how many states in America I have visited I wouldn't say 57 states.............and I think I have 4 to go.
BOOOO!!!!!! The only true foreign policy is one where we stop being the policemen of the world. WHy? Because we are corrupt policemen and only help others when its in our interests (or the interests of a few elite men). Basically we have carte blanche to do anything in the name of "goodness."
Obama is part of that system. He doesnt offer anything significantly different.
Jesse Ventura, is what people are saying. Certainly not Edwards. Clinton, McCain and Obama are the polar opposites of the Founding Fathers, and should never be mentioned in the same sentence. All three of them are traitors who would ruin this country to keep the elite rich and in power.
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I wouldnt call them traitors, less you call basically everyone in politics, traitors. These people are just products of the system. They know not what they do. They just seek to express themselves in politics, and given the current system has been established long before they had any political aspirations... Its the system that needs to be challenged.
People like Bush and Cheney, now they are truly traitors.
The only two people who come anywhere near what the Founding Fathers thought were Ron Paul (modern-day Thomas Jefferson) and Dennis Kucinich (modern-day John Adams). America has yet to learn to ignore the media because they only have their own best interests. I'm sure that John Adams truly is repenting in Heaven for taking the steps to preserve our freedom, since America has basically ignored all of the things which made this country great.
No one who believes in destroying the founding principle of LIBERTY protected (more or less) by both Adams and Jefferson could ever claim a Marxist like Kucinich as an ideological descendant.
Our country has a well of greatness that has been buried beneath greed, political agenda and fear. It still exists, and it will surface again. Men like these still walk among us, but only in such extrordinary times to we truly turn to brilliance and revolutionary ideas.
I still have hope for this country. To lose it would be fatal for all of us
We could relearn a lesson from our founding fathers. Although they disagreed with each other vehemently on many occasions, they still had respect for each other.
They'd think Obama was a liar. In fact, they'd be disgusted by the entire evolution of the process and probably advise we take up arms. I'd sure love to Washington and Franklin's take on that subject.
HBO has done it again - a fantastic miniseries. It is a disappointing reminder however of how bloated our current government has gotten and how accepting of a "nanny state" most Americans have become. This miniseries reminded me of why I am proud to be an American. Schools should mandate this miniseries rather than Al Gore's propaganda.
Grit123, has it not been like this for sometime, now? And mustn't we remember that those men, these Founding Fathers, were of a different breed, one which will and can never come again?
John Adams has to be the best mini-series I've seen since Band of Brothers. Not only does it take the stand point of John Adams, who is one of the most under told of the founding fathers, but it stirs the emotion and patriotism that I haven't seen on in cinematography before. Paul Giamatti has put on a wondrous performance, as have David Morse, Laura Linney, Stephan Dillane, Tom Wilkinson, and all the other actors who portray those who influenced the beginning of the United States.
I agree, the cast is perfect. And in an age where some Americans question the patriotism of their country, this is fresh and encouraging. I had no idea what a big part John Adams played in America's history until seeing this. It makes me love my country even more.
It blew me away to learn that Adams lived until the age of 90 and died on the 50th anniversary of the signing of The Declaration of Independence. Legend has it that on his death bed, he lamented "Long live Thomas Jefferson." Adams wasn't aware that his life-long friend Jefferson had died earlier that same day....Runs a chill up my spine. If our Founding Fathers only knew what kind of fools are running the government today!
I'm not ashamed to say that I cried as I watched Washington take the oath in this series- this show brings home the emotion and patriotism of this time like nothing I've ever seen. Paul Giamatti deserves that Emmy all right...this is one of the best things HBO has ever done, and I've been watching for 25 years.
Little tid bit about the American armament during the revolution. Most of those who enlisted during the war on the side of the United States were farmers who owned rifles. The difference between a muskets and a rifle is that the rifle has a spiral groove in the barrel which spins the shot so that the bullet fires more accurately. The musket didn't have that so it was much less accurate.
This is the most beautiful music I've ever heard. I cannot get it out of my head! I know it will win a Grammy, and I certainly hope Paul, Laura and the the miniseries sweeps the Oscars. Excellent!!!!
Phenomenal acting and this goregous music is the icing on the cake of the John Adams miniseries. I'm hoping they win all the awards when it comes up - musical score, costume designing, best miniseries, best documentary, best actor and best actress, best crew. The most moving story on TV I have ever seen about our country's birth and early years. Paul Giamatti and Laura Linney are at their very best. David Morse really looks like George Washington from photos we've seen of him.
Very good, also try "Ashoken Farewell" (for different reasons) from Ken Burns' "Civil War" series on PBS... David McCoullough the author of John Adams narrates a good portion of that series...
Thanks for the posting. This is one of the most inspiring pieces of music I've heard in a long time. Makes you want to do something good. Should be required listening everyday for today's politicians.
Absolutely. We noticed it the first night. Different composers though, I checked. The soundtrack of Last of the Mohicans was composed by Trevor Jones and Randy Edelman. Beautiful score.
@xohcobrunettexo me too!
JTHousek 1 month ago
does anyone know what this song is called? lol
TheMorganTaylorr 3 months ago
thumbs up if eternal gathering intro guided u here :P :)
headerlin77 5 months ago
YEAH JHON ADAMS!!!!!!! YOU ROCK MAN! XD...love this song.
shagbarkfarm10101 10 months ago
this is the music cnn plays during special events!
masterj345 1 year ago
john adams looks like that bad guy from big fat liar
7blueblood 1 year ago
@7blueblood
I think paul giamatti played the villain from big fat liar. i like both movies, though :)
rodney346 1 year ago
Great music ! Great mini-series !
slotuck 1 year ago
Just wondering... whatever happened to the visions these men had? Their ideas?
Today we have people who think that taxing people into the ground is a smart thing, and that spending money you don't have to fund out of control welfare states is even smarter. Today they read speeches written by somebody else from teleprompters.
If those men would be set into today's world, they'd break out the ugly stick and would start beating up our so called leaders. And rightfully so.
higuma75 1 year ago
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"Just wondering... whatever happened to the visions these men had? Their ideas?"
I've heard this twaddle parrotted all over Youtube, Nothing happened to their ideals. They're still in effect.
inkstersco 1 year ago
Oh ya American. Sorry, But im free to spell it the way I want to.
newworld772 1 year ago
I love this music. It just sounds and feels Amarican.
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dinairairbrushmakeup 1 year ago
lol its the guy from big fat lair XD
Syiden 2 years ago
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Redsdelight 2 years ago
This is just undescribably epic. truly awe-inspiring music.
dahvisibleinvisible 2 years ago
dahvisibleinvisible: I agree, this music kicks ass. I watched this in class and was like "GASP. Must buy this soundtrack," and my teacher was like "What the--You're supposed to be paying attention to the content, not the music!" xD
UchihaLynn 1 year ago 3
@UchihaLynn Oh, wow, creepy. Me, too!
YukiUzumaki78 1 year ago
This song is called Promentory by Trevor Jones and is from the movie Last of the Mohicans. But this version from John Adams is the best. Vangelis also has a version.
denalaurens 2 years ago
This is a FANTASTIC movie. PLus, the music was awesome.
favretd421 2 years ago
I believe the intro is called "Sea Shanty!"
Muckaduck 2 years ago
the intro is called "chester"
bassergolfer 2 years ago
I wish Canada would do something like this with our history. The closest thing we have is "Canada a People's History," but I've seen them all. The US is great for celebrating the heroes in their past. I wish we were better at it.
canadarox14 2 years ago 18
Sadly they is a effort to discretet them latley.
Nnamd 2 years ago
It's annoying when people do that. They see good people in history and go to all this work to uncover deep dark secrets. I don't see why we can't just let heroes be heroic and leave it that way. I think George Washington was a good person who cared about the future of America. What's so wrong with that?
canadarox14 2 years ago 5
Its because Canada doesn't have the money or the industry to produce it. Remember it costs a lot of money to make movies and shows. Money rather spent on healthcare and looking after the nation.
I think the Americans can have their tv shows. We enjoy them just as much!
rattis1 2 years ago
@rattis1 Ah, yes, because the American [government] produced amd financed this mini-series that was, subsequently, produced by Tom Hanks and financed by he himself and other organziations not necessarily affiliated with the American government. As for the latter portion of the initial segment of your comment, I don't much care for where this country's reserve is going.
TrueDudikov 2 years ago
@canadarox14 It's twofold. American's have more interesting , feisty history than we do, and they tell their history better than we do because they have pride while we have meekness. Face it Canada is a dull place and we are dull people.
blacbraun 1 year ago
@blacbraun Ouch, that's putting it a little bluntly. I agree with the part about Americans telling their history better, but I still believe Canadian history is just as interesting. I mean, I don't think I'm a dull person just because I'm Canadian. But then, I guess I am a little biased...
canadarox14 1 year ago
@canadarox14 you guys had some pretty cool rebellions against the english
comradeshow 1 year ago
@comradeshow True that. They didn't really work, but they're fun to read about. I always joke about Papineau, one of Canada's most influential rebels, because he had pretty rockin hair. It keeps history class interesting.
canadarox14 1 year ago
@canadarox14
Celebrating? I think they burned that bridge some time ago - it`s a question of worship by now. The Washington Monument, the touching care of Military Graveyards across the world, great scholars devoting their whole life to a certain time-period and doing every bit of justice to the men who made that era - that is celebrating. Movies and novels are something else (although I´d except this case)
(No I´m not anti-American, quite the contrary)
Faxe90Swe 11 months ago
@Faxe90Swe That's true that some of this stuff does border on hero worship, but I still think it's fantastic that the people in the past get recognition today, hundreds of years after their lifetimes. What do you mean by movies and novels doing something else?
canadarox14 11 months ago
@canadarox14
Well, sometimes they let historic truth suffer for glorification. For example, In Saving Private Ryan, the Rangers are transported by American landing-crafts with American crews, when in fact they were taken in by British crafts by British crews. In The Patriot, the best example, the Americans appear to win the battle of Guilford Courthouse when they in fact lost that battle, and Cornwallis is depicted as a old, grumpy rear-stationed general...
Faxe90Swe 11 months ago
@canadarox14
when in fact he was in his thirties and had to be dragged off the frontline by his ADC:s at Guildford Courthouse.
Faxe90Swe 11 months ago
@canadarox14
But in essence I agree with you, many great men of many great nations deserve celebration today, but they very seldomly get it, and in the long run it does the United States credit that they know to appreciate and show interest in their past deeds and the men performing them. But it`s no good when celebration turns into distortion at the expense of one´s own as well as other countries´ heroes.
Faxe90Swe 11 months ago
@Faxe90Swe You put that really well, thanks. I totally agree. The Patriot is a perfect example of warping history for the sake of an exciting story, (and thanks for pointing out that stuff about Cornwallis. I always liked than guy.) I think they did a much better job with John Adams. We see him as human with human flaws, but we also get to appreciate what he accomplished. It strikes a good balance.
canadarox14 11 months ago
@canadarox14
Yeah, John Adams is absolutely excepted from superficial (and unnecessary) glorification.
Faxe90Swe 11 months ago
@canadarox14 Canada has history? Since when?.........jk jk
JerichoHiltonA 7 months ago in playlist Movie songs
@canadarox14 The men of our nation's history that you so respectfully called heroes were not heroes. They were Americans.
leapjrh 6 months ago
@canadarox14 The history of my country is most likely the most fascinanting hisory on earth, thankyou for the compliment
johncashrocks221 4 months ago
Anyone know what the peice of music is being played at the start of the scene where Abigail Adams is having dinner with the French Admiral?
guitaristxcore 2 years ago
The composition was made by Mozart, the one and only, and it's called "Concerto No. 3" or something like that.
(I'm not completely sure, but I believe that the same tune is also used in "Master and Commander", but played in a different way"
Foerris 2 years ago
what is the songs title??
Skillzer64 3 years ago
On ITunes it is just called "Opening Titles." You would think they would give it a better name than that.
FenwayFan12345 2 years ago
Doubt you could get UK pupils to sit through such an engaging political drama.
Attention span of a fruitfly. You Americans really know how to teach your history.
ShoulderAB07 3 years ago 6
is that seriously a compliment to american teachers? wow, that's a new one. UK students I met are plenty bright, though, US are a little weak on non-American history.
JustShoveJayOhBe 3 years ago
The bright one's are those who have the intellect to deal with airplanes and go through an airport.
The rest are pretty dull.
ShoulderAB07 3 years ago
we watched this in my us history class i am in the 8th grade it is a great video
xohcobrunettexo 3 years ago 14
@xohcobrunettexo keep watching....it's important.
histre101 1 year ago
@xohcobrunettexo glad someone else my age like history and at my school i'll just get called a nerd
TLshadow1997 10 months ago
We saw the dvd in my school I just love the music so beautiful ^^
millianne55 3 years ago 7
such a cool opening credits song!
nycgirrl 3 years ago 2
this song sounds catchy
RockyBaIboa 3 years ago
damn good miniseries, but A LOT of historical inaccuracies (John Adams' children weren't as old as depicted at the beginning of the miniseries, etc). But THE MOST AGGRAVATING INACCURACY was that Adams and the majority of the Founding Fathers being Christians wasn't even mentioned or referenced in this otherwise interesting and educational miniseries.
ShakespeareHamlet 3 years ago
Adams was a Unitarian, and the first five presidents were not Christians.
BeatBuddy 3 years ago
ehhh Unitarian is a Christian faith... its just not catholic rather it falls under the category of protestant. Like formerly most American Christians fall under the founding fathers were pretty much all different branches of Christianity.
Monorprise 3 years ago
Unitarianism comes from the humanist tradition, but it was born out of the Protestand tradition. Unitarians are not Christians; just ask any Unitarian. Deism, which Washington, Jefferson, Madison, and Franklin embraced, did not come from the Christian tradition.
BeatBuddy 3 years ago
You need to recheck your facts bud; Unitarianism is a demonization of the Protestant tradition in Christianity. I dont know what your "humanist tradition is" Unitarianism as a few of them believed in, very much believed in existents of a God and Jesus. They were not as they would have described.
Monorprise 3 years ago
There is nothing demonic about Unitarians. Actually, if there were more, it would be reason to rejoice. Talk with any Unitarian at random and they will tell you they are humanists. It's a non-creedal church where free thought and rational thought hold sway. The Founding Fathers, like the Philosophes of Europe who influenced them, held that reason and the autonomy of the individual has primacy over mystic "revelation." Those are not Christian values.
BeatBuddy 3 years ago
whatever floats your boat, I clearly meant denomination, and Unitarians are, look it up.
Monorprise 3 years ago
It's not necessary to look it up. One of my closest friends is a Unitarian minister.
BeatBuddy 3 years ago
yes it is, it can refer to more than 1 thing.
Monorprise 3 years ago
not mentioning or referencing something is not an inaccuracy.
Noliving 3 years ago
oh, Good Lord. u must be out of your mind. when you're doing a movie or mini-series based on a historical figure, CHECK ALL THE FACTS AND BLOODY WELL TRY TO BLOODY MENTION THEM OR AT LEAST BLOODY REFERENCE IT. BLOODY HELL.
ShakespeareHamlet 3 years ago
Listen dude, their faiths weren't integral to their actions in public policy. Thank God, it helped ensure the separation of Church and State that seems to have disappeared during this administration.
CommanderSalamander 3 years ago
what the bloody hell does that mean? Their faith in God helped them write the Declaration Of Independence & the Constitution. Don't be an idiot.
ShakespeareHamlet 3 years ago
I'm not saying their faith never existed. It just wasn't relevant. If it was relevant, this would be a theocracy. Ignoring details that don't link to anything else in this historical drama is not the same as an inaccuracy. Their faith in God didn't help them write the Declaration and the Constitution, as already stated many of them weren't even Christian.
CommanderSalamander 3 years ago
The Founding Fathers wrote volumes full of philosophical material about the underpinnings of the revolution. They were, including Jefferson, Washington, Adams, Franklin, Paine, Hamilton all deists influenced heavily by among others Locke and Voltaire. Jefferson went so far as to explicitly reject the status of Jesus while at Wm. and Mary.
It seems you jerked around during history class in High School and ignored all this but that DOES NOT mean you can MAKE UP history and
scream it at others...
OneStudentVoice 3 years ago
Jefferson actually wrote his own version of the bible where he removed all of the "magic tricks" and just left the morality tales. Im still trying to find a copy of it.
Fadeux 3 years ago
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I wrote a new version of the Ten Commandments. I just leftout the word NOT.
drudge20 2 years ago
If you had actually bothered to read Rousseau's Social Contract or any of Jefferson's or Adam's correspondence, you would have realized that the appearance of the word "God" in the Declaration of Independence is taken to mean "that which resulted in the laws of nature that govern reality". This of course is not pretty to write, but perhaps would have saved our country from a good deal of empty Fundamentalist rhetoric. It also corresponds with the deist conception of a "Silent Creator".
OneStudentVoice 3 years ago 4
Well actually it was a bit of a weasel word- a lot of the Founders were Deists, which is not precisely a "god of nature" motif, some were non-believers, and some were ardent Protestants (but no Catholics or Jews). It was then, as it is now, a way of giving the appearance of propriety in a mostly Christian nation without sacralizing the state. I doubt severely the Rousseau so hated by a majority of the Founders had his Contract notes cribbed. The beauty was it left *nothing* defined.
mencken 3 years ago
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@mencken Charles Carroll a signer of the Declaration of Independence and a Catholic
mortekami 1 year ago
@ShakespeareHamlet Utter non sense and revisionist garbage. You would preach they were born again Christians. Absolute lies.
blacbraun 1 year ago
@ShakespeareHamlet That's because the majority were Deists not Christians.
blacbraun 1 year ago
@ShakespeareHamlet Sorry, I know your comment is 3 years old, but wanted to add my two cents about the John Adams show. You say that being Christians wasn't referenced in this, when it was actually. It's subtle but there. When going over the Declaration, Jefferson wrote a line that had religious meaning.. It was Ben Franklin who pointed out the line was to religious sounding, and he wanted separation of church and state.. and had Jefferson change the line so the religions context was taken out.
Kayiko 3 months ago
can someone send me this song if i give them my email?
SoccerDudeACW 3 years ago
This was seriously the only really good thing on television ever. If only there were more shows/movies about the founding fathers.
Hmm, also...since there was a miniseries about John Adams, I feel there should be one for George Washington now. Hehe.
bublaikenchal23 3 years ago 2
They should have a miniseries about George Washington. It would rock.
Haikoui 3 years ago 3
and David Morse would be starring in it! Lol
bublaikenchal23 3 years ago
They did have a mini series about George Washington. Barry Bostwick played George Washington and Patty Duke played Martha.
Jane1620 3 years ago
I seriously wish i got more into this show when it was on. I'm learning about him in US AP History.
JessFromMead 3 years ago
we're watching it in us ap history lmao
xxmuraxx 3 years ago
damn....I got a test every week till the end of school and notes everyday :(
JessFromMead 3 years ago
Not only about the founding father buts films or tv series that could educate and really try and strive of historical accuracy.
Nobody would decline that that type of production isn't valuable.
Look at "Titanic". Insanely well researched, and it's the highest grossing film of all time.
Tthere should be more dramatization of historical events. But not with tons of fictional components.
Strive for accuracy. Use quotes from people of the time if you can.
"John Adams" is a great example.
Odonus2 3 years ago
i can't get past David Morse and his great but creepy role in Disturbia, to take his rendition of George Washington seriously.
manvswild4ever 3 years ago 2
I keep thinking of him as that INSANELY aggravating detective from House, MD. I was like, 'Oh no! It's HIM!'
StapleTaper 3 years ago
McCain-Palin 08'
dad0407 3 years ago
i wonder is this the only american movie made for the founding fathers?
dan020350 3 years ago
does anyone know how to change your you tube name?
berboma 3 years ago
Amazing song! I must say Ron Paul would be the most like John Adams out of the politicians today. Obama is nothing at all like our founding fathers who believed in limited government. Obama is pro-big government. If America really wanted "change" then Ron Paul would have been nominated because real "change" would be returning to the principals that this country was founded on.
emrick82 3 years ago
i must say a very nice comment im not a berboma fan at all.my name was going to be bomber but i had to go with beboma.
berboma 3 years ago
I used to be a Ron Paul supporter, but he is not like our Founding Fathers. Jefferson was responsible for the Louisiana Purchase, which indicates that he wanted to expand the nation despite being for a small national government. Obama fits the definition of socialist in my opinion. He is an awesome orator, but he is of the belief that government has all the answers, which will ultimately diminish individual freedom. I am very impressed with McCain's substance, but he is not the best speaker.
dad0407 3 years ago
Well sir, I agree with you on 99% of your comment. However among all of our founding fathers, Ron Paul is the most like Thomas Jefferson. The Louisiana has nothing to do with Thomas Jefferson's belief that a limited and small central government was essential to Americans individual right. Jefferson stood strongly against a National Bank (what the Federal Reserve is today). Ron Paul is probably the most outspoken politician against the Federal Reserve that we have today.
emrick82 3 years ago 3
As long as our government continues to run roughshod over other nations under the guise of truth, goodness and liberty, what hope do we have? There is basically no limit to where our military can be directed. In every case, we are always the good guys. The problem is we dont go to war for the American people anymore, we go to war for corporations. I'm offended that you could actually a former RP supporter that now backs McCain. Thats insane.
silus2000 3 years ago
Ron Paul has some good ideas, but he has some negatives as well. I believe in the whole Bill of Rights and strongly defend the second amendment, as it is the one right that is attacked most often. However, Ron Paul's ideas are nothing new. For instance, he firmly believes in isolationism. Let's not forget that Thomas Jefferson attempted to spread our Constitutional-Representative Democracy to European countries, and he more then doubled the size of the U.S. through the Louisiana Purchase.
dad0407 3 years ago
1. Of course Ron Paul's ideas are nothing new. Thats the entire point.
2. The entire problem of your argument is that you have been convinced that to avoid being an isolationist country, you have to have your military in 100+ nations. Sorry.
Fact is that Ron Paul believes in the free market, and anyone who believes in the free market cannot, by definition, be an isolationist. Its clear you dont know enough about Ron Paul to comment about him.
silus2000 3 years ago
To be honest, your right, I do not know enough about Ron Paul. However, I have noticed that many hateful people, such as Neo-Nazi's appear to be fans of Ron Paul. That really concerns me! I am a Conservative- Republican and staunch supporter of the second amendment. In that spirit, I have no respect for those who subscribe to racism, whether it be Jesse Jackson or David Duke.
dad0407 3 years ago 3
Fear undermines good judgment. You should react to what Ron Paul stands for, not whether or not a small group of people support his views. You must understand that there is always common ground between people, regardless of their interests.
silus2000 3 years ago
The Cry for liberty is by no means unique to any one group.
Monorprise 3 years ago
Anyone know the name of this song?
Noak3 3 years ago
What kind of music genre is this i know its late 18th century early 19th century but does this fall into any genre?
kiragun77 3 years ago
This music is Celtic based and is the basis of Early American/Appalachian/Blue Grass.
If you like this music, then listen to the music from "Last of the Mohicans", which you can find on YouTube.
Texas008 3 years ago 2
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Obama is the closest to the founding fathers out of any politician out there today. He believes in the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to all citizens. If anything Obama represents a modern day John Adams. The founding fathers wanted freedom from tyranny and opression, look at what we're doing in Iraq, making other countries believe in our government policies, we have become the opresser, Obama wants to stop that. OBAMA 08
rs2fan4life 3 years ago
Obama is a classic modern day politician. An incredibly effective speaker no doubt, but his words ring hollow and his following is but a cult of personality.
This man will let you down. He is a politician, hand picked and supported by the party elite, undeniable corrupt and elitist rulers who are the prime forces of impedance in democracy.
You want to see a politician? Check out Paul. Check out Kucinich and Dodd. These are the modern day statesmen. Ignored by the media at by will of the elite.
Battleloser 3 years ago 28
amen to that!
thelawguy666 3 years ago
@Battleloser All men lie after a hunt, during a war, and before an election, Bismarck said once. And still applies to nowadays.
AvatarMarxon90 1 year ago
@Battleloser He's not so good without a prompter. I worked hard for public speaking skills, I am a Boy Scout and am the Master of Ceremonies for our Courts of Honor. 57 states? Honestly.
DeltaBravo1216 1 year ago
@DeltaBravo1216 I know right!! I mean God forbid Sarah Palin's loses her hands...
Seriously did you have millions upon millions of media outlets at your Master of Ceremonies dissecting every word, every syllable you utter waiting for that right word to twist things around and publish?!? I'm not making excuses I'm just saying you only had to speak one day while Presidents, not just Obama, speak everyday and all day.
dontworryaboutit2110 1 year ago
@dontworryaboutit2110 No offence, however there is i difference between a slip of the tongue, and screwing up something that should be innate. If someone asks you your name you don't say someone else's name, if someone asked me my country of origin I wouldn't say British Columbia! If someone asks me how many states in America I have visited I wouldn't say 57 states.............and I think I have 4 to go.
DeltaBravo1216 1 year ago
Shit why do you find the necessity of posting this here? ughh
TheAna1234 1 year ago
BOOOO!!!!!! The only true foreign policy is one where we stop being the policemen of the world. WHy? Because we are corrupt policemen and only help others when its in our interests (or the interests of a few elite men). Basically we have carte blanche to do anything in the name of "goodness."
Obama is part of that system. He doesnt offer anything significantly different.
silus2000 3 years ago 2
you have an incredible distorted view point
madmacabre 3 years ago
RON PAUL GODDAMMIT
wattaaa 3 years ago
Amen, fellow Patriot. This would have been a great 4th of July if Ron Paul was the nominee; instead we have a traitor (McCain) and a fraud (Obama)
wayne62682 3 years ago
Kucinich and Paul come close, but who is Washington?- Edwards? Clinton? McCain? Obama? Only time can tell...
Trp009 3 years ago
Jesse Ventura, is what people are saying. Certainly not Edwards. Clinton, McCain and Obama are the polar opposites of the Founding Fathers, and should never be mentioned in the same sentence. All three of them are traitors who would ruin this country to keep the elite rich and in power.
wayne62682 3 years ago
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I wouldnt call them traitors, less you call basically everyone in politics, traitors. These people are just products of the system. They know not what they do. They just seek to express themselves in politics, and given the current system has been established long before they had any political aspirations... Its the system that needs to be challenged.
People like Bush and Cheney, now they are truly traitors.
silus2000 3 years ago
awesome
gracie5523 3 years ago
The only two people who come anywhere near what the Founding Fathers thought were Ron Paul (modern-day Thomas Jefferson) and Dennis Kucinich (modern-day John Adams). America has yet to learn to ignore the media because they only have their own best interests. I'm sure that John Adams truly is repenting in Heaven for taking the steps to preserve our freedom, since America has basically ignored all of the things which made this country great.
wayne62682 3 years ago 2
Kucinich is a modern day Adams? LOL HOw?
No one who believes in destroying the founding principle of LIBERTY protected (more or less) by both Adams and Jefferson could ever claim a Marxist like Kucinich as an ideological descendant.
TubeGhost 3 years ago
i agree
lugiaxd20 3 years ago
Our country has a well of greatness that has been buried beneath greed, political agenda and fear. It still exists, and it will surface again. Men like these still walk among us, but only in such extrordinary times to we truly turn to brilliance and revolutionary ideas.
I still have hope for this country. To lose it would be fatal for all of us
Poeticnuisance 3 years ago 3
Well said, Poeticnuisance, and well true!
Texas008 3 years ago
We could relearn a lesson from our founding fathers. Although they disagreed with each other vehemently on many occasions, they still had respect for each other.
benzride 3 years ago 15
There are no leaders like this today. How sad. This was an incredible miniseries that I will treasure forever. THANK YOU HBO AND TOM HANKS!
waterforpeople 3 years ago 8
the show is so cool
trainsman22 3 years ago
I wonder what the founding fathers would think of Obama, Clinton, and McCain.
SpandexxMonster 3 years ago 3
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that Obama represents how far your young nation has come....simple.
makienxhemmiktar 3 years ago
They'd think Obama was a liar. In fact, they'd be disgusted by the entire evolution of the process and probably advise we take up arms. I'd sure love to Washington and Franklin's take on that subject.
ShootTheM14 3 years ago
HBO has done it again - a fantastic miniseries. It is a disappointing reminder however of how bloated our current government has gotten and how accepting of a "nanny state" most Americans have become. This miniseries reminded me of why I am proud to be an American. Schools should mandate this miniseries rather than Al Gore's propaganda.
armcomm 3 years ago
Excellent! Well said.
Aquablue33 3 years ago
jons is a great actor
brandensportshead 3 years ago
We're celebrating Patriots' Day here in Massachusetts as is customary in April....it's the day Lexington & Concord were under siege.
histre101 3 years ago
It is a fantastic show,
and by the way it shows how all three candidates pale in comparison to any of the founder fathers.
mossretard 3 years ago 4
I couldn't agree more. We have seriously lowered our standards.
How could we let it get to this? Or rather more importantly, how can we, in our right minds, let it continue.
It's time for a generation to step up and grab the bull by the balls.
grit123 3 years ago
Grit123, has it not been like this for sometime, now? And mustn't we remember that those men, these Founding Fathers, were of a different breed, one which will and can never come again?
Aquablue33 3 years ago
No doubt, but I'd like to imagine this country can produce better leaders than what we have to vote for nowadays.
I'm starting to believe George Carlin - "This is as good as it gets folks, it's never going to get any better, be happy with what ya got"
grit123 3 years ago 3
Oh, absolutely, but we must remember we all stand on the shoulders of the giants who come before us.
Aquablue33 3 years ago
John Adams has to be the best mini-series I've seen since Band of Brothers. Not only does it take the stand point of John Adams, who is one of the most under told of the founding fathers, but it stirs the emotion and patriotism that I haven't seen on in cinematography before. Paul Giamatti has put on a wondrous performance, as have David Morse, Laura Linney, Stephan Dillane, Tom Wilkinson, and all the other actors who portray those who influenced the beginning of the United States.
FASpitfire 3 years ago 4
I agree, the cast is perfect. And in an age where some Americans question the patriotism of their country, this is fresh and encouraging. I had no idea what a big part John Adams played in America's history until seeing this. It makes me love my country even more.
herky7 3 years ago 3
It blew me away to learn that Adams lived until the age of 90 and died on the 50th anniversary of the signing of The Declaration of Independence. Legend has it that on his death bed, he lamented "Long live Thomas Jefferson." Adams wasn't aware that his life-long friend Jefferson had died earlier that same day....Runs a chill up my spine. If our Founding Fathers only knew what kind of fools are running the government today!
Gigglyoramanomicon 3 years ago 7
BRILLIANT SHOW!
MrPogle 3 years ago
I'm not ashamed to say that I cried as I watched Washington take the oath in this series- this show brings home the emotion and patriotism of this time like nothing I've ever seen. Paul Giamatti deserves that Emmy all right...this is one of the best things HBO has ever done, and I've been watching for 25 years.
lizlawton 3 years ago 3
makes me wanna march side with others, muskets shouldered, continental style.
xadrach 3 years ago 2
Little tid bit about the American armament during the revolution. Most of those who enlisted during the war on the side of the United States were farmers who owned rifles. The difference between a muskets and a rifle is that the rifle has a spiral groove in the barrel which spins the shot so that the bullet fires more accurately. The musket didn't have that so it was much less accurate.
FASpitfire 3 years ago 3
Can anyone tell me where i can get this song in an mp3 format?
dodokokololo 3 years ago 2
The sound track will be out by the twenty second of april, I'm buying it for sure.
FASpitfire 3 years ago
This is the most beautiful music I've ever heard. I cannot get it out of my head! I know it will win a Grammy, and I certainly hope Paul, Laura and the the miniseries sweeps the Oscars. Excellent!!!!
fluffymama44 3 years ago 2
Unfortunatly, I dont think the music is quite going to win a Grammy... Its great anyway though
Journeyman107 3 years ago
VERY VERY GOOD SHOW!!!! I just cant believe the quality!!! Amazing!!!!
bonsaibrian 3 years ago
Phenomenal acting and this goregous music is the icing on the cake of the John Adams miniseries. I'm hoping they win all the awards when it comes up - musical score, costume designing, best miniseries, best documentary, best actor and best actress, best crew. The most moving story on TV I have ever seen about our country's birth and early years. Paul Giamatti and Laura Linney are at their very best. David Morse really looks like George Washington from photos we've seen of him.
beingdazzled 3 years ago
I meant "gorgeous"
beingdazzled 3 years ago
Very good, also try "Ashoken Farewell" (for different reasons) from Ken Burns' "Civil War" series on PBS... David McCoullough the author of John Adams narrates a good portion of that series...
elvisapresley68 3 years ago
Thanks for the posting. This is one of the most inspiring pieces of music I've heard in a long time. Makes you want to do something good. Should be required listening everyday for today's politicians.
bucksrjh 3 years ago 3
Someone in an Amazon review said makes you want to start a revolution! This series has been very timely.
Samalabear 3 years ago 3
that song is frigin AMAZING
ThisLionRawrs 3 years ago 3
I know...I love it
RokonFan1988 3 years ago
music makes me want to run for office. very motivating.
seheart 3 years ago 5
Thanks for sharing this great tune
kickedintheballs2000 3 years ago
This show is awesome and so is the score, very similer to last of the mohicans
toptenmaterial 3 years ago
that's just what my mom said, it sounds just like last of the mohicans
manhatten694 3 years ago
it's funny, my mother turned me on to this as well, and I'm 27. I can't decide which score I like better, they are both so moving and incredible.
toptenmaterial 3 years ago
Absolutely. We noticed it the first night. Different composers though, I checked. The soundtrack of Last of the Mohicans was composed by Trevor Jones and Randy Edelman. Beautiful score.
snowdancer 3 years ago
+1. Thought of the same thing when watching this.
sansri88 3 years ago
qood quality, nice song. if this video had the cool waving flags like in the intro, I'd give it a 10/10
rzzza1 3 years ago