@DrNoBias listen pactard pacroid has been cherry picking since 2005 so how can u say he has an impressive career obiosvey u now nothing about boxing foool
This is some major uncle tom punk shit right here. How many flips do you think would actually make a vid like this talking about Floyd? Leave it to the NEGRO to always try to be the saviors of the world with their "we are the world" color blind approach. Patterson is just as flawed as Manny.. just because somebody did the same shit Manny did doesn't make Manny any more legit,
2). and if u dont know how much more the body is affected when you have to drop an extra pound when ur already lean then ur unqualified to talk about how the catchweight benefited Manny against Cotto or Margo. Your arguments are moot and flawed. You're just trying to be a black racially harmonious Jesus and a defender of ALL races. Damn, i'm soo glad cut from a different cloth of black man. Dudes like you are just soft..weak... spineless punks.
What the fuck?! dont ever call me an uncle tom you fuckin faggot. Picture on your account. If you're gonna say shit like that have some videos up, or have a profile pic and show yourself. I fuckin box i know when someone is drained and when some one is not drained. margarito fought at 147 in 2008, he moved up in weight to 154. He is not a full fledged 154 like sergio martinez....he can easily make weight at 150 and he himself said so. Cotto did too. Oscar was drained and Morales
@joeclemm15 You think showing a pic on the INTERNET means that you have balls? Trust me, your skinny ass has no reason to want to see me because if you did it would only dawn on you that i'm not the type of guy that you would fuck with. Pac v Marg was Margs 7th or 8th fight north of 150. There is no doubt that he was alking around north of 160 after his year suspension and you're always at a disadvantage when you drain down to fight a guy who eats and gains. And ur still an uncle tom!
oh im skinny? YOu cant even tell what i am by looking at my face...even if i was skinny so what? that's how i know you dont know shit about fighting. Ive fucked up people 6' 4 plus 250..doesn't mean shit if you dont know how to fight.
Look at you making shit up. Margarito fought mosley at 147...he was suspended for a year and fought Robert Garcia at 154. that was his only fight above 147..after that he faced Pacquiao. Please....keep your fucking mouth shut!
YOU'RE the one who don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Also, i'm 6 foot 1 240 pounds... and i don't know who those guys were that you ALLEGEDLY beat up but rest assured that I would maul skinny ass. You'd get tackled, grounded and pounded.
You're fuckin dumb those fights took place BEFORE he returned to welterweight.....omg are you serious? He fought at 147 and then some fights above and went back down to fight welterweight. Obviously he wasnt drained! he won the fuckin title at 147 and had ONE fight at 154 against robert garcia. How the fuck was he drained by going to 150? How?! Fuckin Ortiz came into the ring at 160 and walks around at 160...he weighed in at 147. Again dont fight so you don't know how this works
@joeclemm15 Who the fuck said he was drained coonshine? I said A FIGHTER IS ALWAYS AT A DISADVANTAGE WHEN HE HAS TO DIET TO LOSE WEIGHT AGAINST A GUY WHO EATS GOOD AND GAINS!. You don't have to be "drained" but dieting to lose weight will weaken you no matter what. The point is that he has fought over 147 more than once which is what YOU said and you were WRONG.
"rest assured that I would maul skinny ass. You'd get tackled, grounded and pounded."
that has got to be the gayest threat I've ever heard. Confirming you're probably a faggot. I was prbably wrong about you distorting your voice on your vids...i think u just talk like that. "Grounded and pounded."
you're putting a lot of emphasis on me being "skinny" which most likely means your fat. Perhaps this is the reason why you dont want to be exposed...your weak bro. kill it.
@joeclemm15 What's weak is the last resort to "gay" accusations. I'm a former football player and a continuing weight lifter .. far from fat. My arm is prolly bigger than your fuckin head. A punch from your weak ass would cause nothing more than a itch. All you do is box... i know a lot more than boxing and seeing that i'm about 80 pounds heavier than you it's nothing more than comedy to imply that you would be a threat in combat. YOU are the one who needs to kill it. UNCLE TOM!
Ok imma former football player. Free safety at APU. I dont weight lift, I box..but what is weight lifting going to do 4 you in a fight? ok you have big arms...gosh this is exactly what people who can't fight say...you have 80 lbs on me? Ok I fight cruiserweights all the time. And im sorry but youre not 80lbs pure muscle bigger than me. it's mixed with whole bunch of fat. Im 175. if you weigh 255 pure muscle no fat then you're a pro body builder. which means u definately cant fight
@joeclemm15 I said 240. READ MUCH? You and any other 175 pound guy who boxes is more than welcome to test your abilities with me. If I were to trim to 6% body fat I would be about 220 solid. Only wimpy mofos think that weightlifting wont help you in a fight... that is until we lay hands on your peuny asses and are able to manhandle you like a 10 yr old boy lol. Dream on boxingboy.
You said u have 80 lbs on me...if youre 240 then you weigh 65lbs mor than me. weight lifting DOESNT help you in a fight necessarily. You think you can just walk up and grab me? like imma just sit there with my eyes close. lol even if you grab me you assume you can just take me doen with weight. Being heavier doesnt mean you're stronger. I lift for power. Lighter weight more reps..im explosive. i squat more than most lineman. you're not manhandling shit fat boy
@joeclemm15 Dude shut the fuck up. Only skinny mofos think they can be just as strong as BIG men without having to gain the size through lifting HEAVY weights. Fuckin idiots. You dont know shit about strength based on that stupid comment. Just stfu.
Let me see what you look like and ill tell you how much bigger you truly are than me. until the picture i have in my mind is a fatass. And if what you say is true then your a muscle head. Either way you cant fuck with me. day in and day out i had to tackle running backs and recievers and tight ends 200 plus LEAN and FAST. I squatted 450 at the time so i had leverage everytime I hit. now please shut your fat sell out mouth up
Pics? Post a video nigga. Anyone can get some pics. Again you base my "weakness" purely off my weight. Bruce lee weighed 140 oooo weak. Fuckin idiot I swear. Comparing what you look like and what i look like means nothing. When I start posting my fights...you can post whatever kind of fights you have and you go from there. Thats how it's done son. Not throwing your weight out there than calling someone else weak...chump
@joeclemm15 How about we skip posting fights and you just pay me a visit or we can meet halfway with video records ready and see just how long you will survive with your "reps" and your little boxing.
How about you be realistic and stop frontin...aint nobody flying to meet halfway for a fight bitch and you know that. Im sick of niggas thrown threats on youtube. Im not going to see you and youre not paying a visit to see me....and you know that. But since you started makin the challenges towards me...callin me weak and shit. You can come see me. 5318 marburn la Cali baby. Get tipped like the rest
@joeclemm15 Fuckin Cali? lol.. i'm in ohio.. no way i'd go that far just to walk through your bitch ass punches and bloody you in front of your family. You box, I'm MUCH bigger, stronger, with minimal wrestling experience (hence why i said i'd tackle you) but enough to make me more dangerous than the average man my size. The fact is that I'm MUCH rather go into battle as I am against you as YOU are than vice versa so your idea of me getting "tipped" is more wishful thinking than anything.
@joeclemm15 I just watched a vid of you hitting a heavy bag and you aint that chizzled ya damn self. You don't even own a fuckin chest. I looked much better than you when i was at 170 back in highschool. lmao.. The only reason im not lean is because adding bodyfat is a must when you're lifting heavy weights to get BIG bcuz eat a lot of calories. On top of that, you look goofy as hell hitting that bag. If that's your idea of elite boxing skill then you must be on crack. Post videos just for you?
first off i was about 185 in that vid. Secondly, that vid was so blurry i dont know how you could see my chest. Thirdly, you're going off appearences again, which i keep telling you is a fallacy. it doesnt work that way. Fourth, you're supposed to eat more PROTEIN...not add body fat when you're lifting. And fifthly, Yup i posted a vid of me jabbing cuz some people asked me too. Post you minimal wrestling vids and ten you can talk
@joeclemm15 First, nothing is funnier than a person who has never trained to gain size trying to tell an experienced person how to do it. You don't only eat protein to gain mass you idiot. You have to increase protein, fats, and carbs. Potatoes, pastas, ect. Second, i saw enough to know that you're weak and that you fuckin suck at boxing. Third.. you really need to shut the fuck up.
this is just frustrating....can you please just sound like a threat. You sound naive. Im bigger stronger...ok are you more skillful? Do you know how to throw punches....like really? Do oyu have defense technique? You just sound dumb dog. like real shit..."bigger and stronger" minimal wrestling...so youre not even good at wrestling and you think you can just waltz in and take me down. ok bro ill let you think what you want. No sense in continuing this. "ground me and pound me" smh
@joeclemm15 "minimal wrestling experience"... which means i did not wrestle for very long. uuuhh DUH!. But yes, u never forget how to handle weaklings like you. Do i have skill? Trust me.. looking at how you were hitting that heavy bag.. i have more hand skill than YOU... EASILY. I would literally have to try to look at awkward as you do hitting a heavy bag. You have no business boxing because you will surely get ktfo.
@joeclemm15 And how much money are you making as a piano player twinkle toes? Some talent. But hey, there is no doubt that you're much better at the piano than boxing. I bet you sing while playing the piano also. Mixing the piano, singing and shitty boxing... sort of like a bootleg negro Manny Pacquiao.
@joeclemm15 STFU tom. Go find a mexican or another asian fighter to dedicate another video to. Just another poor representative of how blacks have no special regard for themselves - and most of all - are stupid enough to think that's an honorable way to be. Buck dancing Stepin Fechit ass. I bet you know how to play "we are the world" on that sissy piano of yours.
Youre fuckin dumb. Giving manny the credit he deserves isn't being an uncle tom. the funny things is that I hold floyd in much higher regard than manny and appreciate him more in ever aspect. But you know what...even if i hated Floyd and loved manny as a fan doesnt make me an uncle tom you fuckin house slave. Trying to look down at a fellow black man for havin his own opinion. The sad thing is that you cant see you're wrong. Im black therefore I cant like or credit manny..dumb
@joeclemm15 Like Manny all you want but we don't need anymore negroz dedicating vids to him and posting it for the fuckin world to see. You only embarrass our image. Keep that shit to yaself.
the fuck nigga dont click on the video! Thats how i know you a fuckin loser...you don't like pacquiao but you gonna click on a manny career tribute. The fuck outta here homie get a life..outside of weight lifting. YOU embarrass our image. You're divisive and you're ignorant. In every aspect. You just a washed up ex wrestler/football player, who knows nothin about boxing...scared to get on cam. You just a bitch plain and simple dog. An insecure fat nobody lookin for attention.
"Disgusting. Pussy" just more proof that youre a fudge packer....only u and fags would find pussy disgust. tom's hate the idea of being divided? where do u get your facts from Toms are people who are black trying to be white..white people are the most divisive race there is from what history has shown us. being divisive is closer to a Tom's mentality. hit the books fruit cake
@joeclemm15 And being divisive and thinking in white oriented ways is what has empowered them to be functionally dominant. Just so happens that black people's golden age in america was during the time of Black Wall Street... a time when we were under JIM CROW (divided) and forced to operate within ourselves. But Toms like you don't look at history like that. All you look at is how thankful you are that the division was replaced with integration. CLASSIC TOM!
margarito was walking around in the 160's even when he was at welterweight. I walk around at 175 and fight at 165 as an amatuer and I have to weigh in the day of! Just stop talking...
Even modifying your voice on your vids. Fuckin pussy bro i swear. Im an uncle tom? no you're an uncle tom for suggesting I am just because I have a different opinion from yours. Fellow black men don't go around throwing that term around unless theyre lost. Get your head on straight clown
@joeclemm15 And like I said... you're a fuckin weak ass uncle tom. There are ZERO flips who would make a vid like this about Floyd... but that uncle tom inside you of wanted to defend ALL races equally even if they would not defend YOUR BLACK ASS in the same way surfaced. It's uncle tom coonshines like you who put black people in dangerous states of existence. Stop buck dancing for people who would not DARE regard you the same as they regard their own with your fuckin uncle tom ass.
Who cares what filipinos think..who cares if they wont make a vid giving Floyd props? If i show respect to manny as a fan that makes me an uncle tom? Really? Oh no as you say it's my desire for equality...yeah that uncle tom martin luther king shit..yeeah im reeeeally selling out. fuckin retard you don't know what it means to be a true black man. Throwin around terms like uncle tom. You're a COWARD bro! and a sell out! No true black man calls another black man an UT 4 crediting Pac
@joeclemm15 I didn't say you desired equality. I said you desire to treat all races equally. Comprende? Uncle toms disregard race when it comes to who they will support. That's YOU. Let flips defend their own fighter... they never asked for a NEGRO to defend pacquiao. But it's always you uncle tom ass buck dancing coonshines who run to the rescue. Weak spineless muthafuckaz with no dignity. Hang yourself!
No uncle tom's are black people who want to be white. "I dont desire equality... I desire to treat all races equally" yeah that's not equality at all. Are you retarded? I don't understand..why are you trying to be stupid? "Let flips defend their own." The fuck I dont care if Manny is black yellow blue...it dont matter to me. if manny was black I'd say the same shit about him. It doesn't matter. spineless? Oh but i show myself on cam..yo fat ass dont. WEAK bro WEAK!
Don't be talkin about Cotto like that >:( hehe. Excellent video man. The thing most fans don't seem to grasp is that there's NOTHING wrong with liking both Floyd and Pac. Pactards and Flomos must be the most ignorant and obnoxious fans i've seen/heard in recent years. They will both crucify you if you like the other fighter too, it's ridiculous. Anyway, big ups man, true fan of the sport.
Thanks homie damn great video on Manny Pacquiao I had to put myself in check too and stop the Manny Hate because it wasn't me as a FAN OF BOXING. I still have a very strong dislike for the Pactards lol Manny Pacquiao does deserve CREDIT as a Boxer in the sport I just don't think he has what it take to beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. but he is one hell of a FIGHTER peace STOP THE HATE Aliens Hive 5
come on joe he never fought a champ before never not one reginging champ any cheater is not worthy thats for floyd and anyone else i love boxing follow the rules as such any other way is garbage
People might call me hater but Thats how I feel. Especially when he didn't agree on drug testing. It just don't seem right, and as mosley don't know which one will show up. I can already see roach saying that he's seen his last 2 fights. Lol
This was a good vid Joe. I gave him credit for beating cotto but that comes with the territory that he did fight at a catchweight. So as Margo which didn't even belong there. And from both those fights they clearly even stated that both were not the same and that they had and advantage from the catchweights.
After watching the Alexander vs Bradley fight.... I needed this video to pump me up again. Great Great Great video!!! After watching Alexander pussy out and to see Bradley win by head butts.... I've gained a great appreciation for Manny Pacquiao who puts it all on the line... doesnt complain, doesnt makes excuses, doesnt trash talk... Manny justs fights... and he fights for the entertainment of his fans as Manny always proclaims. Manny Pacquiao is the epitome of Boxing Legend!!!
Manny does not fight drained figther and why? YOU DUMB MOTHER FUCKING BITCHES DONT KNOW CRAP, all manny's fighter either have 2 loss or NONE, how you dumb niggers say all his opponents are drained ? Just because Manny wins them easily does not imply that his opponents was drained out you dumb mother fucking Mayweather lover niggers
@jbeebrylle shaut up u stupid austria faggot dont even compare a fruad like pacfroid to bruce lee dickehed pacroid only figths guys at catchweight and hes a gay cherry picker
manny only fights at catchweight, drains his opponents, always looks for advantages, fighting guys that come off losses and hes considered P4P? i like manny and i hope he beats floyd but manny is nowhere near to being one of the greatest, one of the greatests catchwieght maybe.
Nice video and good points. The haters will always hate, because they're a fan of a boxer and not the sport of boxing. 20 years from now, people will still be talking about Manny and Floyd. 40 years from now, people will still be talking about Manny's legacy and no one will remember Floyd just like no one remembers Whitaker. It's not his record that matters to me, it's not even how many weight division he bacame a champion on...it's the way he fought them that I'll remember.
lol thanks. very well put couldnt have said it better....I just never thought someone would call me that. haha But yeah people feel like they have to draw sides in the sport. Just enjoy it.
@joeclemm15 gotta say again man great video loved the way you broke it down i think you should do another one this time for mayweather cause him and manny both go through similiar hate from people they don't understand how great both of these men truly are and how hard it is to get to greatness how these to men have.
@joeclemm15 by the way ur video sucks why defending pacroid anyway he has been cherry picking since 2005 fighting at catchweight manny pacroid fools his fans around he dosent care about his black fans which includes u he only care about his gay filipinos fans who knows nothing about the sport
Then ofcourse they had sergio stripped nd threw that belt in on the fight this is why this guys gettin hammered fought for a papertitle against an opponant whose career had bin destroyed. But ill give manny full credit for the mosely fight.
What manny did in the past was great beat barrera who was at his peak as well. I gave him Miguel Cotto clottey was tailormade but still good win with the cotto fight the catchweight and the paperbelt is what hurt him there. Margaritos problems started to surface even before he got in the ring with shane back injurys and ofcourse hand plaster then he got brutally koed by shane then ofcourse the hydroxicut shit he used to cut weight he clearly wasnt the same guy he was back in 06-07
margarito wasnt the same. I agree. I sparred this dude who helped margarito get ready for manny....homeboy fucked margarito up He showed me the tape. Like I felt good cuz I fought him and he got the better of me, but I did waaaaay better than Toni. Dude told me, I think Shane took a lot out of him. So i wouldnt be surprised if he truly wasnt the same guy
@joeclemm15 Yeah he wasnt as fluent. Not trying to shit on pacquiao im just being honest cause u know floyd would get the same treatment if he fought peeps comin off losses which floyd would never do hes alla bout timing. Pacquiao just fights who his management puts in front of him but mannys a great fighter ive seen all the greats ive never seen a fighter with such volume and endurance hes a legend theres no doubt but im not just gonna turn my cheek to whatever he does.
@joeclemm15: Oh ok, I didn't know you were that big. I fought amateur back from the age 14 -17. I primarily fought at 56. Good luck with that man and don't take too many shots to the head cause we need your intelligence.
Joe my bro, you remember when we used to argue and talk shit back in the day, didn't we conclude that Pac is not on steroids, and we really dug deep on the subject, we both concluded that he would most likely be on EPO. I also believed that this was a high probability but, its been under our noses this whole time. Training under high altitude will actually increase your blood count, due to the thin air in the mountains, what do you think bro? Would that be cheating?
lol yeah...it wouldnt be steroids it would be EPO. The same shit they suspect lance armstrong is using. Yes that would be cheating. That shit is like Red Bull..on steroids lol. Dramatically increasing your stamina is the best aid for an attribute cuz it effects all other attributes. Like speed, power, even awareness
@joeclemm15 So you're saying that it would be cheating if fighters train on high altitudes?
I was explaining that when fighters train under high altitude's it has been scientifically proven that it increases their RBC count due to the thin air available in the environment.
hell yeah that's different. I am from Denver Colorado. (The Mile City) When I work out out there my stamina goes up a little cuz I train in high altitude. Taking EPO dramatically increases stamina..it's unatural.
@joeclemm15 But that's my point brutha, that explains why Pac's stamina is so crazy. It has been reported that he sprints hills over in philipines, I do think those out of that environment are the only ones who benefit, as a survival reaction.
I spoke to someone who is a respiratory therapists, he said it takes more than a week to increase your rbc count, and it takes 128+ days for it to go back to a normal count
This increases your rbc count, which is what EPO does.
@DSPBoxing I'll tel u how Pac's balls taste ,like a cluod 9 soup order when the main ingredient came from the looser of the bull fight in the ARENA and the TORERO lost the battle... entiende/?
no it's 10 tiles in 8 divisions...if he would have moved up 10 weight classes he'd be in the super 6..and would definately be on steroids..or possessed...prolly possessed. I thought Cotto would be a tougher opponent...until I saw the judah fight again and then i knew cotto would get hit with lefts all night. mosley is a one punch ko artist and has speed, a great chin and ties up...the styles will be interesting to see clash
@joeclemm15 Well in the Pac/Margarito 24/7 episode 1, they said that Pacquiao has fought in and spanned ten weight divisions. It was said before what Pacquiao had to say about Mayweather. So are they wrong?
you probably heard wrong..are you sure they said 10 weight classes? Manny won titles at fly weight, super bantamweight, featherweight, superfeather weight, light weight, jr welterweight, welterweight , and jr middleweight..10 weight classes is impossible. if 24/7 said that, they made a mistake
@joeclemm15 You know as well as I do, Pac also fought in a minimumweight/straw weight division, he didn't actually win a title at that weight, but I don't know if that adds up to ten. I'm sure that's what I heard, do you have a way to watch it? Let me know what you think when you see it, cause that would be bogus, I'm always against bogus info.
@joeclemm15 How did he get ten titles? Not critiquing just asking, It just so happened to be that those numbers appears to look like they have been switched around, mainly because I heard that ten division @ that 24/7 episode deal probably.
So two weren't even being highly regarded this whole time?
the 10 titles were obtained within 8 divisions...I thought Manny had competed in overall 9 divisions, but it could be 10. But he didnt win a title in each of the 10 weight classes he was in...I think he competed in 9 weight classes, but he spanned over 10. he started out as light fly weight then went to flyweight...he skipped light bantam weight and went to super bantam weight. I think that's what it is... not sure though i have to get back to u on this one..good question
@joeclemm15 Bro its all good, i don't really care that much about it, I just hope you see that episode, so its not bs
if u need a link to DL it, i'll send it, this is a good video and has nothing to do with nut-hugging just disputing stupid arguments people make sometimes, Im all for finding out the truth. Even if this video was about Mayweather's legacy. Just as long as its true and as long as others are mentioned who've done the same, cause that's what makes us all the same & y no0nes perfect
fa shigiddy..I think it's really about syntax. Manny won 10 titles in 8 weight classes. It doesnt mean he's only been in 8 weight classes it just means with the 8 titles he won they were in 8 weight classes. If you fought in 5 weight classes but only won 3 titles in 2 of the weight classes. You'd say 3 titles in 2 weight classes. I have to watch how they said it on 24/7 kinda intrigued to know now lol
YOU'RE RIGHT !! PACQUIAO IS EXTRAORDINARY, THIS HATERS ARE JUST JEALOUS OF HIM WHO WANTS TO DESTROY HIS GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS TRIES TO TAINT HIS IMAGE WHICH IS HONEST. IT HAPPENED TO BRUCE LEE AS WELL HINDERED HIM FROM HIS SUCCESS IN THE U.S. THAT'S WHY HE WENT BACK TO HIS HOMELAND TO COMPETE AND UNLUCKILY THERE WAS JEALOUSY THERE AS WELL AND COST HIS DEAR LIFE AND HIS GREAT WORKS ON MARTIAL ARTS. HE IS A LEGEND JUST LIKE PACQUIAO A LEGEND IN BOXING, SO PLEASE DO NOT REPEAT THE PAST !!!!
@FHINNY u pactards take it too personall nowone hates pacman the thing is that hes not the grateast of all time hes not a legend becouse he dosent fight fighters at there best wieght he only fights at catchweight and he only fight people when they come from bad losses u stupid idiot shut the fuck up
manny dick rider lol i like manny but come on now he gets this big guys who are washed up n since there greats or legends the whole fact of washed jst gets thrown away when he fought marquez he wasnt washed n guess wat he had two of the hardest fight til day n marquez was no big ass guy like manny fights now a day ,morales gave him a lost but afterwards he couldnt make weights n lost in his 2 or 3 fight wit manny that guy looked dead cus he was drained alot jst go back n review mannys fights
ahh ok fine ill give you that. But at least floyd dominated the man that dominated him. And no, manny needs to fight floyd and berto to clean out the division lol
Why can't more Floyd fans be like Joeclemm? its funny cause I see other Floyd fans who say that the media says Floyd fights washed up fighters and they never give him credit, but they turn around and blast Manny Pacquiao with the same things that are being hurled at Floyd in retaliation. I give Floyd credit for everything he has done in that ring, my only gripe is the way he is inactive and the way he carries himself outside the ring. His love of money and ego is his downfall.
yeah it did. it's different from the floyd one, but it still gives u my perpective on his legacy..in this case i point out major accomplishmens and address points that people make trying to diminish his legacy
The best pacquiao's tribute from a non pactard. you addressed the 'media-hyped' fighters of today in resonance with the (media-hyped) fighters of yesteryears with so much clarity. if not for floyd, pacquiao, cotto, JMM, et al, the legacies that the fighters of the past have left will go down the drain.
@Joeclemm15, there is no justifying how manny pacquiao has cheated the sport of boxing, you tried to show how mayweather does neck exersizes to help his chin but if u kno boxing you wud kno that a good chin is like lighting fast speed..either your born with it or not, an the difference is..MAYWEATHERS NEVER BEN KNOCKED OUT, how is it that manny can get knocked out by guys who weigh 110, but walk thru guys punches that weigh around 160???
@Mike9798999 it's very possible cause pacquiao was 16 years old at 106 when he got knocked out twice and 1 of them was a lowblow and the other a body shot his chin has never been exposed in a lost he always had a great chin now he's 32 he's a full grown man now but i do understand when people think he's on something you have every right.
V.Gd vid n great points made here. As a fan of many great boxers at present, It's best to simply enjoy their fights n let history take care of itself of what legacy they left behind when they've retired. U can question every move they've made n scrutinize every opponents they fought in minute details now, the heart of the matter is still what they did inside the ring. N it's only with the hearts dat one see rightly, dat;s where u read, dat's where u try to acquire wisdom of the hearts of others.
@okcboi actually i do count that...i hate the fact we have all these damn belts. Barrera was the man, the numero uno and manny beat him. just like with floyd i count his victory over shane as a world title. he didnt get a belt, but shane was wbc champ and the ring champ. i count that..makes more sense lol
@joeclemm15 but the ring belt is just a magazine companies belt. Even roach said it isnt as high as the WBO, WBC, or IBF belts. To me thats just some made up belt that souds nice.
ture, but to me it's about truth...When Sergio Martinez was stripped of his jr middleweight title, he was still considered The Ring champ. He was rightfully the numero uno in that division, that's why sometimes i just pay attention to that title instead of the scationing bodies...theyre corrupt and confusing...they didnt even give a valid reason for takingthe belt..was he like..not champ anymore lol
and the difference between rocky and manny is that rocky could and did only fight in 1 division he just came at a bad time but still fought everyone..manny on the other hand keeps changing divisions to fight guys past their primes when he could get challenging fights by staying put i mean fighting 1 fight at lightweight,light welter,n light middleweight.its not like there isnt great fighters around.i can understand money fights bt i hate when fans act like he doesnt fight 4 money or avoid fights
i dnt have a problem with catchweights but for a title to b on the line also is a joke,that n the fact that he refuses to take random blood tests simply makes me dislike what he represents as a fighter...
,and i thing CW have a mental impact at times if not physically, he took the mosley fight for money and cos he looked shot.but u may b right and the fight may end up being good but the intention when he ducked him in 2009 and fighting him now is just wrong..
I agree 100% catchweights can be coo, but not with titles on the line, and Rocky sis fight everyone. Ill give him that, but he was confined to only one division...who cleans out 8 divisions lol. manny is doin well at welter as of now.
Great video! we need to stop hating on our boxers of today, Manny or Floyd wouldnt be where they are today if they didnt do anything or fight any good people.
And, you don't realise it now, but this may incline a few pinoys to be less racially aggressive in the future- and that is an achievement in itself. Well done ;)
he intrigues me. He's a technician which is my favorite type of boxer. He has a great left hook and very good jab. He will have a promising career because he relies more on skill and fundamentals
Good video bro. One can find flaws in anyones legacy if they want to. I know old school boxers fought more often for money, but that don't mean they were better. Old time boxers wouldn't fight as much today and today's boxers would have to fight more often back in the day. I don't see Pac as the legit 154lb champ. I see him as a light weight that can beat many boxers at 154lbs. I think Pac is pushing his limits more than any other current boxer. I respect that.
Not trying to be a hater or anything...but common sense has to be factored in at some point...first no fighter has ever moved up this many weight classes and found success.....and the first fighter who does is Pacquiao a guy who's only defense is his chin and offense...Pacquiao's style while entertaining is flawed and doesn't lead to the lengthiest career, also he fights the same way now..as he did when he was a little man...he's made no adjustments..none!!!! come on now we are all human.
Not trying to be a hater or anything...but common sense has to be factored in at some point...first no fighter has ever moved up this many weight classes and found success.....and the first fighter who does is Pacquiao a guy who's only defense is his chin and offense...Pacquiao's style while entertaining is flawed and doesn't lead to the lengthiest career, also he fights the same way now..as he did when he was a little man...he's made no adjustments..none!!!! come on now we are all human.
Not trying to be a hater or anything...but common sense has to be factored in at some point...first no fighter has ever moved up this many weight classes and found success.....and the first fighter who does is Pacquiao a guy who's only defense is his chin and offense...Pacquiao's style while entertaining is flawed and doesn't lead to the lengthiest career, also he fights the same way now..as he did when he was a little man...he's made no adjustments..none!!!! come on now we are all human.
Yeah people assume that bringing someone down in weight automatically weakens them. I can tell if someone is weakened or not just by watching. Like Shane would be drained with a catchweight of two lbs... he walks around LEAN at like 160...ive seen him b4. he came in my store at work lol He has to work hard to make 147. Cotto puts on more body fat in his walking around. I still think he can make 147 but 154 is better for him thanks bruh
@joeclemm15 tight video brah pacquiao is truly great and i love alot of other fighters in boxing history but the way he fights regardless the opponent is why he's my favorite fighter to watch in boxing history win or lose he comes to fight he's very exciting to watch .
BTW 1SugarRayRobinson1 is a bum!!! arguing with dis crap is worthless a dump!!! (^^)
pressurecross 2 weeks ago
@Educationalstuff
Thank you. glad you enjoyed
joeclemm15 2 weeks ago
wow what epic song is that???
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@pressurecross
the first song?
joeclemm15 2 weeks ago
@joeclemm15 yes love the intro!!!!
pressurecross 2 weeks ago
I don't get it why would a black guy give pacquiao his credit when his fans are racist as fuck??????????
1SugarRayRobinson1 6 months ago
pacquio is wack plane and simple
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1SugarRayRobinson1 8 months ago
Mannys dick rider a i bet ur best friend is a gay pactard ahahahhahahahahhahaha
FilipinosAreGay 8 months ago
@DrNoBias listen pactard pacroid has been cherry picking since 2005 so how can u say he has an impressive career obiosvey u now nothing about boxing foool
FilipinosAreGay 8 months ago
@ballsakhittinurchin get off pacroidz dick u black slave uncle tom
FilipinosAreGay 8 months ago
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One of the great video i seen so far.......
Flipdawg4ever 10 months ago
This is some major uncle tom punk shit right here. How many flips do you think would actually make a vid like this talking about Floyd? Leave it to the NEGRO to always try to be the saviors of the world with their "we are the world" color blind approach. Patterson is just as flawed as Manny.. just because somebody did the same shit Manny did doesn't make Manny any more legit,
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
2). and if u dont know how much more the body is affected when you have to drop an extra pound when ur already lean then ur unqualified to talk about how the catchweight benefited Manny against Cotto or Margo. Your arguments are moot and flawed. You're just trying to be a black racially harmonious Jesus and a defender of ALL races. Damn, i'm soo glad cut from a different cloth of black man. Dudes like you are just soft..weak... spineless punks.
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
What the fuck?! dont ever call me an uncle tom you fuckin faggot. Picture on your account. If you're gonna say shit like that have some videos up, or have a profile pic and show yourself. I fuckin box i know when someone is drained and when some one is not drained. margarito fought at 147 in 2008, he moved up in weight to 154. He is not a full fledged 154 like sergio martinez....he can easily make weight at 150 and he himself said so. Cotto did too. Oscar was drained and Morales
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 You think showing a pic on the INTERNET means that you have balls? Trust me, your skinny ass has no reason to want to see me because if you did it would only dawn on you that i'm not the type of guy that you would fuck with. Pac v Marg was Margs 7th or 8th fight north of 150. There is no doubt that he was alking around north of 160 after his year suspension and you're always at a disadvantage when you drain down to fight a guy who eats and gains. And ur still an uncle tom!
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
oh im skinny? YOu cant even tell what i am by looking at my face...even if i was skinny so what? that's how i know you dont know shit about fighting. Ive fucked up people 6' 4 plus 250..doesn't mean shit if you dont know how to fight.
Look at you making shit up. Margarito fought mosley at 147...he was suspended for a year and fought Robert Garcia at 154. that was his only fight above 147..after that he faced Pacquiao. Please....keep your fucking mouth shut!
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 @joeclemm15 Margs weight against a few opponents over 147
153 Daniel Santos
154 Maurice Brantley
157 Efrain Munoz
150½ Jose Luis Benitez
151 Danny Perez
YOU'RE the one who don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Also, i'm 6 foot 1 240 pounds... and i don't know who those guys were that you ALLEGEDLY beat up but rest assured that I would maul skinny ass. You'd get tackled, grounded and pounded.
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
You're fuckin dumb those fights took place BEFORE he returned to welterweight.....omg are you serious? He fought at 147 and then some fights above and went back down to fight welterweight. Obviously he wasnt drained! he won the fuckin title at 147 and had ONE fight at 154 against robert garcia. How the fuck was he drained by going to 150? How?! Fuckin Ortiz came into the ring at 160 and walks around at 160...he weighed in at 147. Again dont fight so you don't know how this works
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 Who the fuck said he was drained coonshine? I said A FIGHTER IS ALWAYS AT A DISADVANTAGE WHEN HE HAS TO DIET TO LOSE WEIGHT AGAINST A GUY WHO EATS GOOD AND GAINS!. You don't have to be "drained" but dieting to lose weight will weaken you no matter what. The point is that he has fought over 147 more than once which is what YOU said and you were WRONG.
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
"rest assured that I would maul skinny ass. You'd get tackled, grounded and pounded."
that has got to be the gayest threat I've ever heard. Confirming you're probably a faggot. I was prbably wrong about you distorting your voice on your vids...i think u just talk like that. "Grounded and pounded."
you're putting a lot of emphasis on me being "skinny" which most likely means your fat. Perhaps this is the reason why you dont want to be exposed...your weak bro. kill it.
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 What's weak is the last resort to "gay" accusations. I'm a former football player and a continuing weight lifter .. far from fat. My arm is prolly bigger than your fuckin head. A punch from your weak ass would cause nothing more than a itch. All you do is box... i know a lot more than boxing and seeing that i'm about 80 pounds heavier than you it's nothing more than comedy to imply that you would be a threat in combat. YOU are the one who needs to kill it. UNCLE TOM!
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
Ok imma former football player. Free safety at APU. I dont weight lift, I box..but what is weight lifting going to do 4 you in a fight? ok you have big arms...gosh this is exactly what people who can't fight say...you have 80 lbs on me? Ok I fight cruiserweights all the time. And im sorry but youre not 80lbs pure muscle bigger than me. it's mixed with whole bunch of fat. Im 175. if you weigh 255 pure muscle no fat then you're a pro body builder. which means u definately cant fight
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 I said 240. READ MUCH? You and any other 175 pound guy who boxes is more than welcome to test your abilities with me. If I were to trim to 6% body fat I would be about 220 solid. Only wimpy mofos think that weightlifting wont help you in a fight... that is until we lay hands on your peuny asses and are able to manhandle you like a 10 yr old boy lol. Dream on boxingboy.
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
You said u have 80 lbs on me...if youre 240 then you weigh 65lbs mor than me. weight lifting DOESNT help you in a fight necessarily. You think you can just walk up and grab me? like imma just sit there with my eyes close. lol even if you grab me you assume you can just take me doen with weight. Being heavier doesnt mean you're stronger. I lift for power. Lighter weight more reps..im explosive. i squat more than most lineman. you're not manhandling shit fat boy
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 Dude shut the fuck up. Only skinny mofos think they can be just as strong as BIG men without having to gain the size through lifting HEAVY weights. Fuckin idiots. You dont know shit about strength based on that stupid comment. Just stfu.
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
Let me see what you look like and ill tell you how much bigger you truly are than me. until the picture i have in my mind is a fatass. And if what you say is true then your a muscle head. Either way you cant fuck with me. day in and day out i had to tackle running backs and recievers and tight ends 200 plus LEAN and FAST. I squatted 450 at the time so i had leverage everytime I hit. now please shut your fat sell out mouth up
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 Go to my channel... 2 "fat" pics that will be up temporarily just for you. Compare that to your weak ass.
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
Pics? Post a video nigga. Anyone can get some pics. Again you base my "weakness" purely off my weight. Bruce lee weighed 140 oooo weak. Fuckin idiot I swear. Comparing what you look like and what i look like means nothing. When I start posting my fights...you can post whatever kind of fights you have and you go from there. Thats how it's done son. Not throwing your weight out there than calling someone else weak...chump
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 How about we skip posting fights and you just pay me a visit or we can meet halfway with video records ready and see just how long you will survive with your "reps" and your little boxing.
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
How about you be realistic and stop frontin...aint nobody flying to meet halfway for a fight bitch and you know that. Im sick of niggas thrown threats on youtube. Im not going to see you and youre not paying a visit to see me....and you know that. But since you started makin the challenges towards me...callin me weak and shit. You can come see me. 5318 marburn la Cali baby. Get tipped like the rest
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 Fuckin Cali? lol.. i'm in ohio.. no way i'd go that far just to walk through your bitch ass punches and bloody you in front of your family. You box, I'm MUCH bigger, stronger, with minimal wrestling experience (hence why i said i'd tackle you) but enough to make me more dangerous than the average man my size. The fact is that I'm MUCH rather go into battle as I am against you as YOU are than vice versa so your idea of me getting "tipped" is more wishful thinking than anything.
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
Just stop being a fuckin uncle tom. .. if you can.
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
ok all stop bein an uncle tom when you stop being a scared fat cunt and start posting videos of yourself. Ok? ok
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 I just watched a vid of you hitting a heavy bag and you aint that chizzled ya damn self. You don't even own a fuckin chest. I looked much better than you when i was at 170 back in highschool. lmao.. The only reason im not lean is because adding bodyfat is a must when you're lifting heavy weights to get BIG bcuz eat a lot of calories. On top of that, you look goofy as hell hitting that bag. If that's your idea of elite boxing skill then you must be on crack. Post videos just for you?
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
not likely uncle tom.
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
You remind me of Antonio Tarver
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
You remind me of Hallow man
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
first off i was about 185 in that vid. Secondly, that vid was so blurry i dont know how you could see my chest. Thirdly, you're going off appearences again, which i keep telling you is a fallacy. it doesnt work that way. Fourth, you're supposed to eat more PROTEIN...not add body fat when you're lifting. And fifthly, Yup i posted a vid of me jabbing cuz some people asked me too. Post you minimal wrestling vids and ten you can talk
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 First, nothing is funnier than a person who has never trained to gain size trying to tell an experienced person how to do it. You don't only eat protein to gain mass you idiot. You have to increase protein, fats, and carbs. Potatoes, pastas, ect. Second, i saw enough to know that you're weak and that you fuckin suck at boxing. Third.. you really need to shut the fuck up.
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
this is just frustrating....can you please just sound like a threat. You sound naive. Im bigger stronger...ok are you more skillful? Do you know how to throw punches....like really? Do oyu have defense technique? You just sound dumb dog. like real shit..."bigger and stronger" minimal wrestling...so youre not even good at wrestling and you think you can just waltz in and take me down. ok bro ill let you think what you want. No sense in continuing this. "ground me and pound me" smh
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 "minimal wrestling experience"... which means i did not wrestle for very long. uuuhh DUH!. But yes, u never forget how to handle weaklings like you. Do i have skill? Trust me.. looking at how you were hitting that heavy bag.. i have more hand skill than YOU... EASILY. I would literally have to try to look at awkward as you do hitting a heavy bag. You have no business boxing because you will surely get ktfo.
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
ok thanks for the input coach
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 no problem... stick to the piano music boy. That suits you much better.
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
if you were talented i'd tell you to stick to somethin too but uh. idk. stick to pumping iron man. Show those weights who's boss
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 And how much money are you making as a piano player twinkle toes? Some talent. But hey, there is no doubt that you're much better at the piano than boxing. I bet you sing while playing the piano also. Mixing the piano, singing and shitty boxing... sort of like a bootleg negro Manny Pacquiao.
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
if you're gonna crack jokes be funny
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 STFU tom. Go find a mexican or another asian fighter to dedicate another video to. Just another poor representative of how blacks have no special regard for themselves - and most of all - are stupid enough to think that's an honorable way to be. Buck dancing Stepin Fechit ass. I bet you know how to play "we are the world" on that sissy piano of yours.
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
Youre fuckin dumb. Giving manny the credit he deserves isn't being an uncle tom. the funny things is that I hold floyd in much higher regard than manny and appreciate him more in ever aspect. But you know what...even if i hated Floyd and loved manny as a fan doesnt make me an uncle tom you fuckin house slave. Trying to look down at a fellow black man for havin his own opinion. The sad thing is that you cant see you're wrong. Im black therefore I cant like or credit manny..dumb
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 Like Manny all you want but we don't need anymore negroz dedicating vids to him and posting it for the fuckin world to see. You only embarrass our image. Keep that shit to yaself.
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
the fuck nigga dont click on the video! Thats how i know you a fuckin loser...you don't like pacquiao but you gonna click on a manny career tribute. The fuck outta here homie get a life..outside of weight lifting. YOU embarrass our image. You're divisive and you're ignorant. In every aspect. You just a washed up ex wrestler/football player, who knows nothin about boxing...scared to get on cam. You just a bitch plain and simple dog. An insecure fat nobody lookin for attention.
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15
"You're divisive"
Again... spoken like a true Tom. Toms hate the idea of being divided from asians, whites, and others. Disgusting. Pussy!
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
"Disgusting. Pussy" just more proof that youre a fudge packer....only u and fags would find pussy disgust. tom's hate the idea of being divided? where do u get your facts from Toms are people who are black trying to be white..white people are the most divisive race there is from what history has shown us. being divisive is closer to a Tom's mentality. hit the books fruit cake
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 And being divisive and thinking in white oriented ways is what has empowered them to be functionally dominant. Just so happens that black people's golden age in america was during the time of Black Wall Street... a time when we were under JIM CROW (divided) and forced to operate within ourselves. But Toms like you don't look at history like that. All you look at is how thankful you are that the division was replaced with integration. CLASSIC TOM!
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
ok you win
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 wait ur that ratard that said that pacquiao would beat sugar ray robinson no wonder ur a pactard
posting stupid videos
FilipinosAreGay 9 months ago
@FilipinosAreGay
what videos are you posting?
joeclemm15 9 months ago
@joeclemm15 so duran did leonard made you quit?....agian?
1SugarRayRobinson1 6 months ago
@BoxingWasp There is nothing sissy about the piano or playing the piano.
SmelOdies 2 months ago
@BoxingWasp
margarito was walking around in the 160's even when he was at welterweight. I walk around at 175 and fight at 165 as an amatuer and I have to weigh in the day of! Just stop talking...
Even modifying your voice on your vids. Fuckin pussy bro i swear. Im an uncle tom? no you're an uncle tom for suggesting I am just because I have a different opinion from yours. Fellow black men don't go around throwing that term around unless theyre lost. Get your head on straight clown
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 And like I said... you're a fuckin weak ass uncle tom. There are ZERO flips who would make a vid like this about Floyd... but that uncle tom inside you of wanted to defend ALL races equally even if they would not defend YOUR BLACK ASS in the same way surfaced. It's uncle tom coonshines like you who put black people in dangerous states of existence. Stop buck dancing for people who would not DARE regard you the same as they regard their own with your fuckin uncle tom ass.
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
Who cares what filipinos think..who cares if they wont make a vid giving Floyd props? If i show respect to manny as a fan that makes me an uncle tom? Really? Oh no as you say it's my desire for equality...yeah that uncle tom martin luther king shit..yeeah im reeeeally selling out. fuckin retard you don't know what it means to be a true black man. Throwin around terms like uncle tom. You're a COWARD bro! and a sell out! No true black man calls another black man an UT 4 crediting Pac
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 I didn't say you desired equality. I said you desire to treat all races equally. Comprende? Uncle toms disregard race when it comes to who they will support. That's YOU. Let flips defend their own fighter... they never asked for a NEGRO to defend pacquiao. But it's always you uncle tom ass buck dancing coonshines who run to the rescue. Weak spineless muthafuckaz with no dignity. Hang yourself!
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
@BoxingWasp
No uncle tom's are black people who want to be white. "I dont desire equality... I desire to treat all races equally" yeah that's not equality at all. Are you retarded? I don't understand..why are you trying to be stupid? "Let flips defend their own." The fuck I dont care if Manny is black yellow blue...it dont matter to me. if manny was black I'd say the same shit about him. It doesn't matter. spineless? Oh but i show myself on cam..yo fat ass dont. WEAK bro WEAK!
joeclemm15 10 months ago
@joeclemm15 "I dont care if Manny is black yellow blue...it dont matter to me."
spoken like a true UNCLE TOM! PUSSY!
BoxingWasp 10 months ago
Manny will always be a living Legend.
bmark12 10 months ago
Gives me goose bumbs
rraven16 11 months ago
@rraven16
glad you enjoyed it
joeclemm15 11 months ago
cool vid man..
angelsk93 1 year ago
@angelsk93
thanks bro
joeclemm15 1 year ago
Don't be talkin about Cotto like that >:( hehe. Excellent video man. The thing most fans don't seem to grasp is that there's NOTHING wrong with liking both Floyd and Pac. Pactards and Flomos must be the most ignorant and obnoxious fans i've seen/heard in recent years. They will both crucify you if you like the other fighter too, it's ridiculous. Anyway, big ups man, true fan of the sport.
frankieb0nez02 1 year ago
Thanks homie damn great video on Manny Pacquiao I had to put myself in check too and stop the Manny Hate because it wasn't me as a FAN OF BOXING. I still have a very strong dislike for the Pactards lol Manny Pacquiao does deserve CREDIT as a Boxer in the sport I just don't think he has what it take to beat Floyd Mayweather Jr. but he is one hell of a FIGHTER peace STOP THE HATE Aliens Hive 5
AliensHive5 1 year ago
come on joe he never fought a champ before never not one reginging champ any cheater is not worthy thats for floyd and anyone else i love boxing follow the rules as such any other way is garbage
kyledagreat27 1 year ago
@kyledagreat27
Hatton had never lost at jr welterweight before MAnny beat him....he had been reigning since 2005
joeclemm15 1 year ago
People might call me hater but Thats how I feel. Especially when he didn't agree on drug testing. It just don't seem right, and as mosley don't know which one will show up. I can already see roach saying that he's seen his last 2 fights. Lol
P4p775 1 year ago
@P4p775 erm he did agree..
/watch?v=CmqeBye3KhA
media sucks for not making the news spread, they only like to spread negative stuff like not agreeing.. damn fags(the media)..
angelsk93 1 year ago
This was a good vid Joe. I gave him credit for beating cotto but that comes with the territory that he did fight at a catchweight. So as Margo which didn't even belong there. And from both those fights they clearly even stated that both were not the same and that they had and advantage from the catchweights.
P4p775 1 year ago
@P4p775
thanks bro
joeclemm15 1 year ago
After watching the Alexander vs Bradley fight.... I needed this video to pump me up again. Great Great Great video!!! After watching Alexander pussy out and to see Bradley win by head butts.... I've gained a great appreciation for Manny Pacquiao who puts it all on the line... doesnt complain, doesnt makes excuses, doesnt trash talk... Manny justs fights... and he fights for the entertainment of his fans as Manny always proclaims. Manny Pacquiao is the epitome of Boxing Legend!!!
StylinAzn 1 year ago
Manny does not fight drained figther and why? YOU DUMB MOTHER FUCKING BITCHES DONT KNOW CRAP, all manny's fighter either have 2 loss or NONE, how you dumb niggers say all his opponents are drained ? Just because Manny wins them easily does not imply that his opponents was drained out you dumb mother fucking Mayweather lover niggers
aznbreez 1 year ago
@ballsakhittinurchin oh shit damn thanks for letting me know that.
AliRidah619 1 year ago
very good video joeclemm15....agree with you i every points!!!!including pac vs mosley!!!
prince111705 1 year ago
you forgot to mention
manny Pacquiao the 'bruce lee of boxing' lol
jbeebrylle 1 year ago
@jbeebrylle shaut up u stupid austria faggot dont even compare a fruad like pacfroid to bruce lee dickehed pacroid only figths guys at catchweight and hes a gay cherry picker
FilipinosAreGay 8 months ago
manny only fights at catchweight, drains his opponents, always looks for advantages, fighting guys that come off losses and hes considered P4P? i like manny and i hope he beats floyd but manny is nowhere near to being one of the greatest, one of the greatests catchwieght maybe.
maju786 1 year ago
Nice video and good points. The haters will always hate, because they're a fan of a boxer and not the sport of boxing. 20 years from now, people will still be talking about Manny and Floyd. 40 years from now, people will still be talking about Manny's legacy and no one will remember Floyd just like no one remembers Whitaker. It's not his record that matters to me, it's not even how many weight division he bacame a champion on...it's the way he fought them that I'll remember.
jeffrenz14 1 year ago
@DrNoBias
lol thanks. very well put couldnt have said it better....I just never thought someone would call me that. haha But yeah people feel like they have to draw sides in the sport. Just enjoy it.
joeclemm15 1 year ago
@joeclemm15 gotta say again man great video loved the way you broke it down i think you should do another one this time for mayweather cause him and manny both go through similiar hate from people they don't understand how great both of these men truly are and how hard it is to get to greatness how these to men have.
AliRidah619 1 year ago
@joeclemm15 by the way ur video sucks why defending pacroid anyway he has been cherry picking since 2005 fighting at catchweight manny pacroid fools his fans around he dosent care about his black fans which includes u he only care about his gay filipinos fans who knows nothing about the sport
FilipinosAreGay 8 months ago
Then ofcourse they had sergio stripped nd threw that belt in on the fight this is why this guys gettin hammered fought for a papertitle against an opponant whose career had bin destroyed. But ill give manny full credit for the mosely fight.
ThePrettyboyboxing 1 year ago
What manny did in the past was great beat barrera who was at his peak as well. I gave him Miguel Cotto clottey was tailormade but still good win with the cotto fight the catchweight and the paperbelt is what hurt him there. Margaritos problems started to surface even before he got in the ring with shane back injurys and ofcourse hand plaster then he got brutally koed by shane then ofcourse the hydroxicut shit he used to cut weight he clearly wasnt the same guy he was back in 06-07
ThePrettyboyboxing 1 year ago
@ThePrettyboyboxing
margarito wasnt the same. I agree. I sparred this dude who helped margarito get ready for manny....homeboy fucked margarito up He showed me the tape. Like I felt good cuz I fought him and he got the better of me, but I did waaaaay better than Toni. Dude told me, I think Shane took a lot out of him. So i wouldnt be surprised if he truly wasnt the same guy
joeclemm15 1 year ago
@joeclemm15 Yeah he wasnt as fluent. Not trying to shit on pacquiao im just being honest cause u know floyd would get the same treatment if he fought peeps comin off losses which floyd would never do hes alla bout timing. Pacquiao just fights who his management puts in front of him but mannys a great fighter ive seen all the greats ive never seen a fighter with such volume and endurance hes a legend theres no doubt but im not just gonna turn my cheek to whatever he does.
ThePrettyboyboxing 1 year ago
@joeclemm15: Joe what weight are you fighting at dawwg?
jesusneverexisted300 1 year ago
@jesusneverexisted300
light heavyweight 175...but im an amature so I fight from 170-179 and if necessary Ill go up to 185
joeclemm15 1 year ago
@joeclemm15: Oh ok, I didn't know you were that big. I fought amateur back from the age 14 -17. I primarily fought at 56. Good luck with that man and don't take too many shots to the head cause we need your intelligence.
jesusneverexisted300 1 year ago
Joe my bro, you remember when we used to argue and talk shit back in the day, didn't we conclude that Pac is not on steroids, and we really dug deep on the subject, we both concluded that he would most likely be on EPO. I also believed that this was a high probability but, its been under our noses this whole time. Training under high altitude will actually increase your blood count, due to the thin air in the mountains, what do you think bro? Would that be cheating?
StridentNinja 1 year ago
@StridentNinja
lol yeah...it wouldnt be steroids it would be EPO. The same shit they suspect lance armstrong is using. Yes that would be cheating. That shit is like Red Bull..on steroids lol. Dramatically increasing your stamina is the best aid for an attribute cuz it effects all other attributes. Like speed, power, even awareness
joeclemm15 1 year ago
@joeclemm15 So you're saying that it would be cheating if fighters train on high altitudes?
I was explaining that when fighters train under high altitude's it has been scientifically proven that it increases their RBC count due to the thin air available in the environment.
StridentNinja 1 year ago
@StridentNinja
hell yeah that's different. I am from Denver Colorado. (The Mile City) When I work out out there my stamina goes up a little cuz I train in high altitude. Taking EPO dramatically increases stamina..it's unatural.
joeclemm15 1 year ago
@joeclemm15 But that's my point brutha, that explains why Pac's stamina is so crazy. It has been reported that he sprints hills over in philipines, I do think those out of that environment are the only ones who benefit, as a survival reaction.
I spoke to someone who is a respiratory therapists, he said it takes more than a week to increase your rbc count, and it takes 128+ days for it to go back to a normal count
This increases your rbc count, which is what EPO does.
StridentNinja 1 year ago
@DSPBoxing I'll tel u how Pac's balls taste ,like a cluod 9 soup order when the main ingredient came from the looser of the bull fight in the ARENA and the TORERO lost the battle... entiende/?
elyolaniej 1 year ago
@JoeClemm
1:37 Isn't it 8 titles in 10 divisions
4:14 His chin never really gotten any better cause he has never been Knocked Out from the top. That's right, thicker neck = better chin
5:24 Cotto was still a tough mofo for Manny, I admit I thought he would lose to Cotto
6:24 Those are great names that still echo til this day
8:02 Yes! Mosley is a one punch KO artist, and Pacquiao gets hit by those too
StridentNinja 1 year ago
@StridentNinja
no it's 10 tiles in 8 divisions...if he would have moved up 10 weight classes he'd be in the super 6..and would definately be on steroids..or possessed...prolly possessed. I thought Cotto would be a tougher opponent...until I saw the judah fight again and then i knew cotto would get hit with lefts all night. mosley is a one punch ko artist and has speed, a great chin and ties up...the styles will be interesting to see clash
joeclemm15 1 year ago
@joeclemm15 Well in the Pac/Margarito 24/7 episode 1, they said that Pacquiao has fought in and spanned ten weight divisions. It was said before what Pacquiao had to say about Mayweather. So are they wrong?
StridentNinja 1 year ago
@StridentNinja
you probably heard wrong..are you sure they said 10 weight classes? Manny won titles at fly weight, super bantamweight, featherweight, superfeather weight, light weight, jr welterweight, welterweight , and jr middleweight..10 weight classes is impossible. if 24/7 said that, they made a mistake
joeclemm15 1 year ago
@joeclemm15 You know as well as I do, Pac also fought in a minimumweight/straw weight division, he didn't actually win a title at that weight, but I don't know if that adds up to ten. I'm sure that's what I heard, do you have a way to watch it? Let me know what you think when you see it, cause that would be bogus, I'm always against bogus info.
StridentNinja 1 year ago
@StridentNinja
he started his career off as light flyweight...so maybe thats what they meant..
joeclemm15 1 year ago
@joeclemm15 How did he get ten titles? Not critiquing just asking, It just so happened to be that those numbers appears to look like they have been switched around, mainly because I heard that ten division @ that 24/7 episode deal probably.
So two weren't even being highly regarded this whole time?
StridentNinja 1 year ago
@StridentNinja
the 10 titles were obtained within 8 divisions...I thought Manny had competed in overall 9 divisions, but it could be 10. But he didnt win a title in each of the 10 weight classes he was in...I think he competed in 9 weight classes, but he spanned over 10. he started out as light fly weight then went to flyweight...he skipped light bantam weight and went to super bantam weight. I think that's what it is... not sure though i have to get back to u on this one..good question
joeclemm15 1 year ago
@joeclemm15 Bro its all good, i don't really care that much about it, I just hope you see that episode, so its not bs
if u need a link to DL it, i'll send it, this is a good video and has nothing to do with nut-hugging just disputing stupid arguments people make sometimes, Im all for finding out the truth. Even if this video was about Mayweather's legacy. Just as long as its true and as long as others are mentioned who've done the same, cause that's what makes us all the same & y no0nes perfect
StridentNinja 1 year ago
@StridentNinja
fa shigiddy..I think it's really about syntax. Manny won 10 titles in 8 weight classes. It doesnt mean he's only been in 8 weight classes it just means with the 8 titles he won they were in 8 weight classes. If you fought in 5 weight classes but only won 3 titles in 2 of the weight classes. You'd say 3 titles in 2 weight classes. I have to watch how they said it on 24/7 kinda intrigued to know now lol
joeclemm15 1 year ago
I've been out for a while and I come back to this, thanks for just plain keeping it real bro.
Nobody has to say anything bad about Manny to prove Floyd is better and vice versa. Just stating good ol facts.
Your Floyd video was good too, I hope it helps other pactards see the light.
hahahah the music is good, presentation A+
StridentNinja 1 year ago
@82jdilworth
thanks bro..yeah people need to know about pancho...as my trainer says..he was a bad mothafucka lol
joeclemm15 1 year ago
YOU'RE RIGHT !! PACQUIAO IS EXTRAORDINARY, THIS HATERS ARE JUST JEALOUS OF HIM WHO WANTS TO DESTROY HIS GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS TRIES TO TAINT HIS IMAGE WHICH IS HONEST. IT HAPPENED TO BRUCE LEE AS WELL HINDERED HIM FROM HIS SUCCESS IN THE U.S. THAT'S WHY HE WENT BACK TO HIS HOMELAND TO COMPETE AND UNLUCKILY THERE WAS JEALOUSY THERE AS WELL AND COST HIS DEAR LIFE AND HIS GREAT WORKS ON MARTIAL ARTS. HE IS A LEGEND JUST LIKE PACQUIAO A LEGEND IN BOXING, SO PLEASE DO NOT REPEAT THE PAST !!!!
FHINNY 1 year ago
@FHINNY u pactards take it too personall nowone hates pacman the thing is that hes not the grateast of all time hes not a legend becouse he dosent fight fighters at there best wieght he only fights at catchweight and he only fight people when they come from bad losses u stupid idiot shut the fuck up
FilipinosAreGay 8 months ago
manny dick rider lol i like manny but come on now he gets this big guys who are washed up n since there greats or legends the whole fact of washed jst gets thrown away when he fought marquez he wasnt washed n guess wat he had two of the hardest fight til day n marquez was no big ass guy like manny fights now a day ,morales gave him a lost but afterwards he couldnt make weights n lost in his 2 or 3 fight wit manny that guy looked dead cus he was drained alot jst go back n review mannys fights
missaeljordanf 1 year ago
@missaeljordanf
lol are you callng me a Manny dick rider? Me?! hahaha wow aint that a bitch
joeclemm15 1 year ago
@joeclemm15 Joe is a Manny dick rider! hahahahha. i almost died laughing.LOL
spray2009 1 year ago
@missaeljordanf lmao you are an idiot go watch this guys other videos
RoughTactics 1 year ago
@DrNoBias
hahaha we will glorify todays fighters and rp the fighters of tomorrow...i think it's a pattern
joeclemm15 1 year ago
@MenTakeBubbleBaths
ahh ok fine ill give you that. But at least floyd dominated the man that dominated him. And no, manny needs to fight floyd and berto to clean out the division lol
joeclemm15 1 year ago
Why can't more Floyd fans be like Joeclemm? its funny cause I see other Floyd fans who say that the media says Floyd fights washed up fighters and they never give him credit, but they turn around and blast Manny Pacquiao with the same things that are being hurled at Floyd in retaliation. I give Floyd credit for everything he has done in that ring, my only gripe is the way he is inactive and the way he carries himself outside the ring. His love of money and ego is his downfall.
ginogeno 1 year ago
@joeclemm: Sorry Joe but what was the purpose of this video since it had nothing to do with legacy???
jesusneverexisted300 1 year ago
@jesusneverexisted300
yeah it did. it's different from the floyd one, but it still gives u my perpective on his legacy..in this case i point out major accomplishmens and address points that people make trying to diminish his legacy
joeclemm15 1 year ago
@joeclemm15: Hmmm ok joe.
jesusneverexisted300 1 year ago
@jesusneverexisted300
lol what?
joeclemm15 1 year ago
@joeclemm15: Oh nothing. Better yet just no comment on that one joe.
jesusneverexisted300 1 year ago
@jesusneverexisted300 Oh Gawd shut the fuck up ..... lmfao "err no comment" like he really has something valid to say.
StridentNinja 1 year ago
i dont know where you got the info that pancho died of throat disease, though. it is believed that he died of tooth infection.
spray2009 1 year ago
@spray2009
It started off has a tooth infection and then spread to his throat causing Ludwig's angina. He went into a comma once it went to his thoat
joeclemm15 1 year ago
The best pacquiao's tribute from a non pactard. you addressed the 'media-hyped' fighters of today in resonance with the (media-hyped) fighters of yesteryears with so much clarity. if not for floyd, pacquiao, cotto, JMM, et al, the legacies that the fighters of the past have left will go down the drain.
spray2009 1 year ago
@Joeclemm15, there is no justifying how manny pacquiao has cheated the sport of boxing, you tried to show how mayweather does neck exersizes to help his chin but if u kno boxing you wud kno that a good chin is like lighting fast speed..either your born with it or not, an the difference is..MAYWEATHERS NEVER BEN KNOCKED OUT, how is it that manny can get knocked out by guys who weigh 110, but walk thru guys punches that weigh around 160???
Mike9798999 1 year ago
@Mike9798999 it's very possible cause pacquiao was 16 years old at 106 when he got knocked out twice and 1 of them was a lowblow and the other a body shot his chin has never been exposed in a lost he always had a great chin now he's 32 he's a full grown man now but i do understand when people think he's on something you have every right.
AliRidah619 1 year ago
V.Gd vid n great points made here. As a fan of many great boxers at present, It's best to simply enjoy their fights n let history take care of itself of what legacy they left behind when they've retired. U can question every move they've made n scrutinize every opponents they fought in minute details now, the heart of the matter is still what they did inside the ring. N it's only with the hearts dat one see rightly, dat;s where u read, dat's where u try to acquire wisdom of the hearts of others.
miktoh 1 year ago
good video otherwise tho.
okcboi 1 year ago
the ring belt?? please that dont count as a real world title lol
okcboi 1 year ago
@okcboi actually i do count that...i hate the fact we have all these damn belts. Barrera was the man, the numero uno and manny beat him. just like with floyd i count his victory over shane as a world title. he didnt get a belt, but shane was wbc champ and the ring champ. i count that..makes more sense lol
joeclemm15 1 year ago
@joeclemm15 but the ring belt is just a magazine companies belt. Even roach said it isnt as high as the WBO, WBC, or IBF belts. To me thats just some made up belt that souds nice.
okcboi 1 year ago
@okcboi
ture, but to me it's about truth...When Sergio Martinez was stripped of his jr middleweight title, he was still considered The Ring champ. He was rightfully the numero uno in that division, that's why sometimes i just pay attention to that title instead of the scationing bodies...theyre corrupt and confusing...they didnt even give a valid reason for takingthe belt..was he like..not champ anymore lol
joeclemm15 1 year ago
and the difference between rocky and manny is that rocky could and did only fight in 1 division he just came at a bad time but still fought everyone..manny on the other hand keeps changing divisions to fight guys past their primes when he could get challenging fights by staying put i mean fighting 1 fight at lightweight,light welter,n light middleweight.its not like there isnt great fighters around.i can understand money fights bt i hate when fans act like he doesnt fight 4 money or avoid fights
sugarnadf 1 year ago
i dnt have a problem with catchweights but for a title to b on the line also is a joke,that n the fact that he refuses to take random blood tests simply makes me dislike what he represents as a fighter...
,and i thing CW have a mental impact at times if not physically, he took the mosley fight for money and cos he looked shot.but u may b right and the fight may end up being good but the intention when he ducked him in 2009 and fighting him now is just wrong..
sugarnadf 1 year ago
@sugarnadf
I agree 100% catchweights can be coo, but not with titles on the line, and Rocky sis fight everyone. Ill give him that, but he was confined to only one division...who cleans out 8 divisions lol. manny is doin well at welter as of now.
joeclemm15 1 year ago
Great video! we need to stop hating on our boxers of today, Manny or Floyd wouldnt be where they are today if they didnt do anything or fight any good people.
RoughTactics 1 year ago
@RoughTactics
thanks bruh
joeclemm15 1 year ago
ARUM IS NOT CHERRYPICKING OPPONENTS FOR PAC..
might be a ploy by Arum:
Defeat those guys whom FMJr. DUCKED.
Those who he beats, shall be beaten better by pac.
Ricky Hatton: Manny KO'D him literally. and Defeats him only in 2 rounds.
Oscar De La Hoya: Manny made him quit. Floyd wins via split decision.
Cotto - Manny wins by stoppage. Floyd ducked this guy.
Margarito - Floyd ducked this guy.
NEXT is SSM - Be prepared. Roach and Manny will attempt for a KO.
All this just to prove who's the P4P!
qtkid21 1 year ago
And, you don't realise it now, but this may incline a few pinoys to be less racially aggressive in the future- and that is an achievement in itself. Well done ;)
BoxingFacts001 1 year ago
@BoxingFacts001
lol hope so. thanks man
joeclemm15 1 year ago
This is the realest thing
qtkid21 1 year ago
Exceptional video- I always knew about poncho villa but never delved into his career. Real interesting stuff!
BoxingFacts001 1 year ago
Great stuff man. Any thoughts on Nonito Donaire?
BisayaBoii 1 year ago
@BisayaBoii
Donaire will win...you mean his upcoming fight or just on general?
joeclemm15 1 year ago
@joeclemm15 Just in general man.
BisayaBoii 1 year ago
@BisayaBoii
he intrigues me. He's a technician which is my favorite type of boxer. He has a great left hook and very good jab. He will have a promising career because he relies more on skill and fundamentals
joeclemm15 1 year ago
great vid
OMGsDRugz 1 year ago
what an awesome video...thanks for educating
KASHLAMDA 1 year ago
Good video bro. One can find flaws in anyones legacy if they want to. I know old school boxers fought more often for money, but that don't mean they were better. Old time boxers wouldn't fight as much today and today's boxers would have to fight more often back in the day. I don't see Pac as the legit 154lb champ. I see him as a light weight that can beat many boxers at 154lbs. I think Pac is pushing his limits more than any other current boxer. I respect that.
hawkermustang 1 year ago
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hawkermustang 1 year ago
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Not trying to be a hater or anything...but common sense has to be factored in at some point...first no fighter has ever moved up this many weight classes and found success.....and the first fighter who does is Pacquiao a guy who's only defense is his chin and offense...Pacquiao's style while entertaining is flawed and doesn't lead to the lengthiest career, also he fights the same way now..as he did when he was a little man...he's made no adjustments..none!!!! come on now we are all human.
theduke22278 1 year ago
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Not trying to be a hater or anything...but common sense has to be factored in at some point...first no fighter has ever moved up this many weight classes and found success.....and the first fighter who does is Pacquiao a guy who's only defense is his chin and offense...Pacquiao's style while entertaining is flawed and doesn't lead to the lengthiest career, also he fights the same way now..as he did when he was a little man...he's made no adjustments..none!!!! come on now we are all human.
theduke22278 1 year ago
Not trying to be a hater or anything...but common sense has to be factored in at some point...first no fighter has ever moved up this many weight classes and found success.....and the first fighter who does is Pacquiao a guy who's only defense is his chin and offense...Pacquiao's style while entertaining is flawed and doesn't lead to the lengthiest career, also he fights the same way now..as he did when he was a little man...he's made no adjustments..none!!!! come on now we are all human.
theduke22278 1 year ago
@MenTakeBubbleBaths
Yeah people assume that bringing someone down in weight automatically weakens them. I can tell if someone is weakened or not just by watching. Like Shane would be drained with a catchweight of two lbs... he walks around LEAN at like 160...ive seen him b4. he came in my store at work lol He has to work hard to make 147. Cotto puts on more body fat in his walking around. I still think he can make 147 but 154 is better for him thanks bruh
joeclemm15 1 year ago
@joeclemm15 tight video brah pacquiao is truly great and i love alot of other fighters in boxing history but the way he fights regardless the opponent is why he's my favorite fighter to watch in boxing history win or lose he comes to fight he's very exciting to watch .
AliRidah619 1 year ago