Fallen Flags: Norfolk & Western SD45 1807

[benschlechter]

What's the difference in size of NW and Southern locos?

[benschlechter]

Gotta love the caboose. I sure do miss seeing them on the end of the trains. Btw, what is the difference in size between the NW locos and the Southern locos?

[gaycowboy31]

is this an RS5T or a P5 on that unit I own a P5 off a N&W unit I believe a C30-7 if I remember right

[Cchrisbud813]

@gaycowboy31 Old S-5T

[benschlechter]

Next year marks the 30th anniversary of the consolidation of the NW and SOU railways. They would later acquire a portion of conrail.

[troy12n]

it's on the H line from roanoke to hagerstown

[RETreadingengineer]

One thing i liked about the SD-45 was the cab ride, the SD-40-2 was also a smooth rideing Locomotive. the geeps were a little bit on the bumpy side.

[JoJoJopete]

I wish Norfolk Southern would repaint a unit in Norfolk & Western paint. Complete with Norfolk & Western paint and lettering from the 60s.

[TheSterlingLoopTroop]

they did a gp59 in bright southern paint. i also agree write a letter to ns nice job on the video

[1999vfr]

Back in 2003 and 2004 NS leased some SD-45's from Illinois Central railroad. They smelt like shit and looked like shit. But I can tell you as a engineer, 3 of them together would pull the hell out of a 170 car coal train. Incredible diesel power, 20 cylinder 3800 HP.

[MrLuebeck]

@1999vfr Actually SD45s were 3,600 hp. not 3,800

[cbalducc]

@1999vfr Illinois Central only had one SD45, a demonstrator which it numbered 7000. It was scrapped in 1985. Perhaps you mean "SD40s". God bless.

[est86leo]

I'm only 23 but I wish I could of seen all these companies in action. The lack luster of the locos and cars just make it more interesting to me. My faintest memories are of ATSF since I'm from NM.

[rockguitarist946]

yeah, i figure i was born 20 years late and im 13, railfanning sucks where i live, its all GE crap. i never see EMD anymore, and if i do, its SD70s. i miss all the old railroads and the time when people cared about their public image

[pwalpar]

Awesome video 5*

[ma7799]

Is this video or 16mm?

[e44e33]

Video--VHS

[sirdorkster]

Which rail line was this? The old Washington, Brandywine and Point Lookout Railroad perhaps?

[e44e33]

This is the old Shenandoah Valley Railroad, later the NW, from Hagerstown, MD to Roanoke, VA.

[sirdorkster]

Okay, I looked up the location. Thank you.

When I had originally looked up St. James MD in an arbitrary manner, it took me to a location in St. Mary's County.

[yuer7676]

great video.....very nostalgic to watch the cabooses

[Cchrisbud813]

I love this S-5T! The 55 bell seems just a tad high, but the notes come together really well. Other than that, great footage!

[gaycowboy31]

I heard one of those S5s on a train last night by my farm here but its posible it was an RS5T either way it sounded great it was on a CSX unit..I live close to the UPRR mainline but I know the unit wasnt UP as the old MKT units are all gone from there roster I understand and they had the S5T horns on them so I assume it was CSX

[shekkythebastard]

norfolk and western always had unique horns on all their locomotives. they were distinctly different than the B&O and chessie system trains that ran through my hometown.

[FlyBikes089]

What an beautiful!!! This video is amazing!!!

*Add favorite and 5 rating!!!

[lostsd45]

THAT BROUGHT ME BACK.THANKS

[rockchickvw]

Awesome footage! Thanks for posting.

[FoxGTR34Nismo]

Another way you can tell its old...break car (Caboose)

In Spokane, BN phased out cabooses in 1991.

Yea, Burlington Northern...before they became BNSF, still in the old Cascade Green with black stripes.

[xxxDeath9572xxx]

when did the Norfolk & Western go bankrupt ?? because there are all kinds of rail bridges around where i live and i see still painted on there NORFOLK & WESTERN.....

[e44e33]

No bankruptcy--NW merged with Southern Railway in 1982 to become Norfolk Southern.

[xxxDeath9572xxx]

huh cool

[ChevyTrucks352]

This must have been from the early to mid-80s. Look at the tri-level auto racks - their roofs and end doors haven't been installed yet.

[cbehr91]

Look at the subtitle at the beginning of the video and in the description. It says October 21, 1981.

[NsRailfan083]

NW pulling CR

[Sandwichfart]

it looked like he jumped in between the locos

[Sandwichfart]

everything was grey back then

[railbum]

... and graffifi-less

[Moltixar]

This meant no turning units at the end of a run for a return trip. ALOT of time saved.

[CSX73]

Southern always ran long hood forward too.

[Moltixar]

The engines were ordered High nose and NW had dual cab controls, they could run either direction as front, they just deemed the long hood as the actual front.

[e44e33]

Yeah, probably the assistant engineer going back to check the trailing units.

[KC8WJG]

SWEET!

[furryfurball1221]

Had a 20 cylinder right?

[massltca]

Some of those NW SD45s still live on up here in Massahcusetts on the Guilford Rail System. They are some of my favorite locomotives to photograph.

[bodkin1]

From the Yahoo group "Train Horns":

"Leslie S5T, with the 44 bell whipoorwilling along with the slightly overblowing 25 bell. If all bells sounding, would be a nice B major 9th chord."

[syncplay]

You know what's troubling? The stock chord (B,D#,F#,A,C#) is actually "B dominant 9th" - the A would have to be A# for it to be "B major 9th". I would've said something by now over on the forum ran buy the guy named "Doug", but I'm worried about a hostile reception.

[choirboyfromhell]

Slightly mistakened. C,D#,F#,A,C#. An addition of two bells to the common C,D#,A (first inversion dimished A triad chord), that was the most popular Leslie horn. The N&W horn had in effect two tri-tones (augmented fourths or dimished fifths if you like) that was a purposeful jarring sound to alert motorists. A beautiful horn. And at this moment I'm listening to a NS GEVO with a strange E,G,B,C, (an E minor root triad with a extra C bell added to give it a particularly dissonant sound).

[bodkin1]

The horn on the 1807 is a regular Leslie S5-T

[dasmikey1964]

NW used to run thru my hometown (also Penn Central, but I was too young to remember that).  The horn sounds like an RS5TFX, but I could be wrong on that count...

[e44e33]

Could be. I think that in 1981 they still had a four person crew.

[e44e33]

Fireman?

[e44e33]

Probably the assistant engineman.

[Hickthu06]

Anybody notice conductor or breakman walking along the walkway of the lead locomotive?

[marklester01]

I see,but why does it sound like a P5?

[diazpepe]

old autorack

[marklester01]

wait,no it's an P5OC!

[NS4100]

no, your wrong, Marklester01 was closer, it's a straight Leslie S5T no RS5TRRO, just a simple S5T.

[marklester01]

ooh,An RS5tRRO!!!

[Junkie133343]

classic footage of an '81 train