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  • Murray killed him!

  • Klein is the killer, not Murray. If it was Murray, he would already be in jail.

  • ok i see where u are coming from.

    i believe he is alive now!!

  • bunch of garbage not that care one way or another,but Arnie Klein wasnt there the day Michael died,yes he may have contributed to Michaels death in thelong run but fact is the addict has to be responsible as well.conrad murray is a dr feelgood only in it for the money just like klein. race dont matter the only color that mattered was green get it

  • Race in America, virtually, always matters. Conrad Murray had not been paid anything, Klein has been paid for years. The latest indication is that Klein's last time seeing Michael was not Monday, as he claims, but within 24 hours of his death. Klein's going down, "get it"?

  • I do get it,i am not defending Dr Klein in anyway shape or form.Conrad Murray was working for free?u believe that?maybe u can enlighten me as to why there seems to be a pro Murray dialogue here.He had nothing to do with MJ'S death?why? because he is black?They will all go down but there is no conspiracy here,like i said they only color that mattered to the physicians was green.

  • Conrad Murray had not yet been paid. He would have been paid when the concert in London convened. These facts have nothing to do with Conrad being "black". Arnie Klein has long been peddling drugs, not only with Michael but others.

    I do not think all of them will "go down" but there will be more than one and Klein is one of them.

  • ppl here ask the right questions!!! Very good thread!

    What do you know of "Klein having seen MJ within the last 24 hours"?

    Remember also: Murray phones with Klein (surely after MJ had died), prob. to discuss a suitable version for police!

    Murray gave then a version:he would have given MJ less Propofol, first started with other meds!

    I say: he only said that bc. he knew that the police would find the other (chronically given)meds in M's blood!

    So many media did print this as truth:(

  • It is very likely that Murray did not know what Klein was giving Michael. If there was a phone call from Murray to Klein it was likely to find out what Klein was administering to Michael. Klein is at the center of all of this.

  • It's interesting that you stress the "fact" (be careful, Pianda :-)) ) that Klein shall have given Michael regularly meds even in Murrays time.

    How can you explain that he made Michael to a totally addicted person, is said to have given him med. even shortly before his tour? The man who "made" Michael kids,who now must realize that the biol. father was prob. the supporter of MJ's addiction,which led to his death?

    I do not check all this!It is weirder than a crime-film-script could be?!

  • Klein is a pimp and he knew he could extract many things from Michael if he's drugged. This guy is totally at the center of this.

    If Murray was a clear source of Michael's death, he would already be in jail. They are pursuing Klein and his friends.

  • If they pursue Klein, things run within the right frame, bc. it's obvious that the guy who started the addiction and fed it constantly over years is the one with most guilt!

    But: you also said, it's a matter of race, Murray was only used!From Klein?? "Race" as a decisive variable would mean: police concentrates on the black guy (who only had an influence for 6 weeks). But now you say, the pursue mostly Klein.

    So, how to combine the different thesis with apparent reality (as you say)?

  • Because Jackson was an international figure, this, in many respects, trumps "race". Difficult for justice system to handle this as they often would had Michael not been wealthy and famous.  There are too many people looking at this and will not allow Klein & friends to escape. This may connect to members or former members of Sony.

    Jackson chose Murray, thinking Murray could help him. Klein continued operating in the background. Also connected to Chandlers.

  • Chandler's? Oh, what could this mean?

    I just ask here one (rather emotive :-)), and, within all, prob. raher "small" question ) question: how are the (inner) bonds Klein has to these children?

    Do you think, he realizes, that he is the biological father on the one hand, on the other the guy who has probably intensively to do with Michael's death? Also one has to imagine, that the kids social father was stoned over years (which I tend to recognize in the boys behaviour, e.g. at the memo)

  • ...at the memorial. The boys in part seemed to be like identified with a guy they always experienced under drugs, so I saw some apathic reactions).

    But the broader thing is: do you think, Klein could "suffer" realizing what he has done to "his" own kids? The constellation is soooooo special. One would - as the biological father - rather try to support the health of the social father, not to set him under permanent druginfluence. Personality or interest of Klein as an explaining factor?

  • Don't you just get that feeling that Mr. Kline will die from a mysterious illness or suicide? I would think he knows too much.

  • It is highly likely, as the noose closes in, Klein (Kline) will end up dead or missing. It would be wise for the investigators to keep him under surveillance and they probably are.

    What's taking the investigation more time involves connecting the dots that spiral out from Kline. They are feeding up the chain...... and the higher they go, the less likely Murray will be shown to have had anything to do with Michael's death.

  • True, Michael had to traverse a den of vipers as we all must. The main question is what do we collectively do about these vipers?

  • True, they are bent on doing that which is not good for others. I refer to individuals who are members of certain groups. It is not wise to paint with such a broad brush. There are members of religions that have some odd doctrines and dogma but that does not mean that individual is a part of it. Was it not Yeshua who stated be in the world but not of it. An alien might conclude that all things human must die.

    I agree with you but not totally.

  • Psa 144:6 Cast forth lightning, and scatter them: shoot out thine arrows, and destroy them.

    7 Send thine hand from above; rid me, and deliver me out of great waters, from the hand of strange children;

    8 Whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand [is] a right hand of falsehood. (KJV)

  • We're on the same page.

  • All Masons are not equal and at the same level. I do not defend them or any of the other secret society groups.

  • This is the first time I'm hearing this. What do you mean by masons and why would the Jews want MJ dead?

  • The Ashkenazim are the biggest controllers of the entertainment industry. Michael wanted more control. Traditionally, this group, generally, look upon Blacks as inferior and "slaves" to them. Michael had attained a level they could only dream of. They wanted what he had, including his soul.

    Some in this group refer to President Obama as their slave but are upset because he is demanding a Palestinian state. Michael danced with "vipers" and was bitten.

  • Unfortunately, we have idiots who praise all sorts of macabre acts. Zionists will praise all that enhances their agenda.

    It is certainly true that the false Jews, the Zionists, have been at the center of trying to totally destroy Michael Jackson for many years.

    The reality is that Jackson consumed all of the air in the room in the entertainment industry. He alone was even bigger than Hip Hop.

  • You shouldn't assume that all Masons are the same. Yes, it should be factored in but it should not bring a conclusion.

  • That was my first reaction too.

  • I know you're so right!

    Do you have any links to those masonic sites praising Dr. Murray?

  • That was a bunch of confusion.

    I do recall Arnold Klein stating on Larry King that he never saw any sign of drug addiction, or any needle tracks on MJ, in all the years he treated him, except for the one time MJ went to rehab in Europe, which I think was because of the 1993 Chandler allegations.

  • Yes and it was, again after the 2005 trials, that he fell back on the drug addiction according to Deepak Chopra.

    The Enabler should be charged, because the victim its the addicted person.

    When a doctor meets a person who are feeling down and finding happiness in drugs.

    He should treat him from addicton.

    Not enable him.

  • Amen!

  • True, doctors should treat a person so as to remove the addiction, not enable it.

  • These doctors are nothing but glorified DOPE DEALERS!!! And they locking brothas up for life sentences for selling crack? PLEASE!!! I think they are selling more dope than any drug dealer on these streets... "If he is a HERO...he wont take the prize??" What prize are they talking about?

  • Well said!

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