@stage: ...you may one day be old enough and those such as you seldom grow out of their bigotry & stupidity!
...concerning your remark about castration, you aren't all that far off! Perhaps you should cut off and/or out your sexual organ's so that you can no longer pollute & contaminate the rest of the world with your retarded & defective seed?!! It would be the right thing to do!
@stage: There really should be a test, like an I.Q. test, that we US citizen's are forced to take in order to qualify fully for the right to vote. I don't care if it isn't in the Constitution, they can pass an Amendment and put it in the Constitution! I don't care if it is politically incorrect, disqualifying retard's such as yourself who are to stupid to know who is best to hold what political office anyway; besides the fact that you are still to young to vote, ...
Im neither a snit or a dead zipper. If Ur familiar with the process, Its up to the accuser to prove a case.This isn't an issue that can ever be proven to all satisfaction.
Even if O WAS born here, as it seems, he still can claim British citizenship if he likes.
O-has less than 50% who say they'd ever vote for him again, focus on this & there lies the end of him. The truth will come out, but not soon enough to affect 2012. Focus on a win in 12 , let history correct it self.
@vladimir: "Barack Obama Is Not A U.S. Citizen, Not Eligible To Be U.S. President"
Thanks for the info, "Mr. White Supremacist Shill" (Bare minimum!); we'll take that into account while you are having sex with your "sis, ma, pa and that cute lil taby" that walk's in front of your trailer!
That is the paradigm most people think. Well guess what... A Birth Certificate does not necessarily make you a U.S. Citizen. 14th Amendment says that you must ALSO be under the jurisdiction thereof, and that is said in the same sentence as being born in the U.S.
What one needs to do, is to read Emerich Vattel's book "Law of Nations" (written in 1758 and taught at the College of William and Mary, where 16 signers of the US Constitution and 3 early U.S. Presidents attended)
“There’s nothing that I’m aware of that says you have to have two American parents,” said Gary Kreep, executive director of the United States Justice Foundation. “My understanding of it is if you’re born in the United States, you’re a natural-born citizen, period.”
The reason you only allow natural born citizens to become presidents is because someone who swears allegiance to another country might have different interests than the advancement of our own nation. That's the perfect way to kill the Constitution; let outsiders in to wreck havoc.
I do care if he was born here, and I will NOT vote for a foreigner to sit in the Oval Office.
I don't care birth certificate or not. The way he swaggers up to the microphone and talks down to and about America erks me. I'm at the point where if he comes on TV now I'll change to something, anything else. As far as the birth certificate goes, I hope they can prove he wasn't born here. It might be the only way to get rid of him. While their at it I hope they get rid of Pelosi for vouching for him: that would probably be asking to much.
The GOP wanted to kill the Obama health care plan. Wouldn't it have been simpler to just have him arrested if he was in the White House illegally?
Do any of you realize how incompetent, stupid and downright blind the entire Republican party would need to be for the bither claims to be true? If Obama's presidency is illegal, then the GOP needs to be completely abandoned and replaced, not allowed to merge with the Koch Brothers' Tea Party.
@timhenson08, The Alinsky Method has worked flawlessly, and you are helping.
If you don't get it by now, I predict the situation will reach a point where it is no longer worth my efforts to stop it. It's like being on a speeding train, heading for a crevasse, unable to get off, so I'll just be quiet. I tried to warn you. You ignored me, so you can accept your Karma.
@borderraven "The Alinsky Method has worked flawlessl"
True. Hillary Clinton's astroturf "birther" movement has done a great job of marginalizing a large swath of conservatives. She even managed to orchestrate a takeover of the Republican party by extremists, pretty much guaranteeing a Democratic resurgence for 2012.
She's playing you guys like a fiddle. It's an impressive sight to see.
Riddle me this birthers: If Obama isn't legally qualified to be President, why didn't the McCain campaign jump on this before the election? Why hasn't anyone in DC taken action? The location and time of his birth is settled. His father's identity is known. Do y'all seriously believe you know better than the entirety of the Republican leadership and the entire GOP is part of a scheme to keep a man they HATE in the White House?
@timhenson08, Yes, I and others, do know more than the entire GOP. We see the truth. Your problem is, if you don't fix this now, your grandchildren will never see the USA as the Founding Fathers intended. Every future presidential election will have US-born dual-citizens running and you can't stop it.
@halleyscomet, If Obama was born in a US State subject to Hawaii and US laws granting him US citizenship by birth; and he was born to a UK Citizen father under UK consular jurisdiction granting him UK Citizenship by birth. He was not born NBC and cannot be converted to NBC. In the US he is a US Citizen.
@borderraven You really should look up the case law surrounding the 14th Amendment. According to US law the nationality of the parents is irrelevant. The mere fact that he was born in Hawaii makes him a Natural Born Citizen. You need to stop wasting your breath on this long debunked bit of nonsense and learn about his actual policies instead of whining about white supremacist conspiracy theories regarding his citizenship status.
The passage of the 14th amendment and court cases I mentioned happened AFTER Bingham's statements were made, meaning even IF that were a law you were quoting it was supplanted by the 14th amendment and the subsequent rulings.
The law changes over time. What you did is about as effective as trying to defend yourself in a pot possession trial by pointing out that marijuana USED to be legal.
1868 happened AFTER 1862. Stop ignoring the 14th Amendment.
@borderraven "Joh Bingham's comments have nothing to do with the 14th Amendment"
No, they don't, as they were rendered irrelevant by the 14th Amendment. His comments, his opinions, carry no legal weight. He does not matter. Even if his opinions had been law AT THE TIME the 14th Amendment would have nullified that law.
You should stop quoting Bingham. It just makes you look ignorant to anyone who passed their highs school civics courses.
@borderraven "JOHN BINGHAM 37th Congress 2nd Session House of Representatives 1862"
It's so cute how you keep quoting the rant of a racist as of it had any legal relevance. Hillary's manufactured astroturf "birther" movement has you by the short hairs and you're too busy hating the black man to realize you're being played like a fiddle.
@timhenson08, Oh, but you are in error, for I do not hate the black man, and I have many friends, men and women, black, white, Asian, Latino, who I love for their character. I however must question the character of Barack Hussein Obama,since I find him to be scoundrel,not worthy of my trust or admiration. If you were not blinded by idol worship, then you too would question him, as to his warrant to hold the high office, the most trusted position, that of the President of these 50 United States.
@borderraven "If you were not blinded by idol worship"
I love how you equate admitting Obama is a NBC to "hero worship." I happen to think he's a rotten president, but that doesn't mean it's illegal for him to hold office.
What did you think of all the liberals who insisted Bush should have been arrested over the Florida election debacle back in 2000? Do you realize you sound even MORE retarded than they did?
Since he was born in Hawaii and legally his father's nationality has no bearing upon his citizenship yes he is. Your constant denial is, frankly, pathetic. Do you REALLY think McCain would have dropped the ball on something as major as the citizenship of his opponent? Even Glenn Beck, one of the most conspiracy minded pundits on the Right, dismisses the "birther" nonsense.
Why do you waste your time on an issue Hillary made up?
@timhenson08, Oh you BS well. His father's citizenship has no affect on his US citizenship. He was born equally a US citizen as a UK citizen, and up until he was 22 he had the option of choosing, but because he was born with that option to choose, then he is not a US Natural Born Citizen.
@borderraven "because he was born with that option to choose, then he is not a US Natural Born Citizen."
That is a flat out lie and there are no actual laws to support that claim. You WISH his father's nationality was relevant, but there are no actual LAWS to support that claim. Your entire claim is based upon the fact that you are ignorant of how US law actually works and how citizenship is actually conveyed.
@borderraven I don't care birth certificate or not. The way he swaggers up to the microphone and talks down to and about America erks me. I'm at the point where if he comes on TV now I'll change to something, anything else. As far as the birth certificate goes, I hope they can prove he wasn't born here. It might be the only way to get rid of him. While their at it I hope they get rid of Pelosi for vouching for him: that would probably be asking to much.
@stage: "As far as the birth certificate goes, I hope they can prove he wasn't born here. It might be the only way to get rid of him."
Okay so, you are willing to support a FAILED white supremacist idea in hopes of achieving ...what?! The way that you cry & moan about the two party political paradigm means that I may very well have to nominate you for "THE DUMBEST PERSON ON YOUTUBE" award...
The competition is stiff but, you're pretty fuckin' stupid! You've got a real shot.
@SpookeyR Congress does two things well, nothing & overreacting. Ur calling me the dumbest? Ur new in town R ya? Politicians love Ur type, they create hate & anger in people. It's inherently civil war. Since the State is based on coercion & threat of violence, so is politics. Nothing more than who gets to apply how much violence to people. Sets people at war with each other, makes people paranoid, they always think if the opposing party gets into power, they'll do terrible things to them.
@SpookeyR Shouting Loud & Clear. Im secretly sorry Obama showed his birth BC. I was hoping that got him out ,ass end first. Obama’s original BC finally shows, the claim he already released it as a lie. Meaning ,Hawaii would not release the certificate, a proven lie.
My sis & my father both born in Hawaii have long form BC. My G.G. G. Grandfather born in Hawaii 1/20/ 1837 in Lahaina on the island of Maui. Not sure if he had a BC but he did make it into wikipedia.
@stage: Interesting set of lies there! Pretty cheap: where did you get them, a dollar store?!
He released the long form to shut you ppl the fuck up. Unfortunately, you moron's don't know how to do that! I suppose you'll blame that on him, too, right??
"We bloggers & nerds R more technically competent than CIA & Obammy stooges combined so I trust them to verify the docs."
Yea, right! So, what are you, about 14?! Your dad let's you on the internet & here you are trolling...
@SpookeyR Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others ! U offer no facts... The only thing U have to offer is castration & criticism, sorry , Im not Ur wife ! I'm stupid, I'm ugly, I'm dumb, I smell. Did I mention I'm stupid? By the way, if you don't like my parties U can leave in a huff. If that's too soon, leave in a minute & a huff. If U can't find that U can leave in a taxi.
@stage: Your "principles" are that of a "white supremacist shill", bare minimum. (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt!) I have fact's and I've been hitting you with them consistently about Barack Obama; you have yet to have a point out or to provide anything resembling factual information!
Here we go again... Put downs , castrations , complaining... when there are millions of other parties to attend , U keep showing up at my door.
Again... little boy... No one invited U... so if U don't like my parties U can leave in a huff. If that's too soon, leave in a minute & a huff. If U can't find that U can leave in a taxi. U won't be missed.
@SpookeyR Notice Obammy produced his BC right after he promoted the head of the CIA, an orgi with billions of $-$ worth of fake-identity document production systems & experts for R super-spies, to be the new Sect. of Def. A merit promotion?
Wonder if Columbia & Harvard U.docs. will now be shown at some later time by Penetta or his successor.
We bloggers & nerds R more technically competent than CIA & Obammy stooges combined so I trust them to verify the docs.
@SpookeyR Next Q? Wheres his Selective Service card? He IS Commander N Chief. As for college records, I'd like to see transcripts at Occidental that's so fabulous that he got INTO Columbia then Harvard. His app would be more interesting than his transcript. His SAT/ACT would answer the ? that hes the Smartest President, LOL . Maybe my ears were bad that day & they said Smarmiest. Oh No, thats Bill! Liberals tend to put onus of Ur success on society & conservatives on U & family
@stage: "Next Q? Wheres his Selective Service card? ... "
...& here you are, with your 72 I.Q., bitchin' about his Selective Service card, college record's, SAT/ACT, etc. Did anybody ever bring up Ronald Reagan's BC or any other such documentation on him?! No, he wasn't black & he didn't have a funny sounding name. Every reason to scream like a retard about Barack Obama, hmm??
Pull the other one Charlie. I'm sure no one will check out your youtube videos and judge your race views for themselves. At least "out" white supremacists have the guts to admit who they are. You closet racists are disgusting and pathetic.
@borderraven You are completely ignoring the case law surrounding the 14th amendment. Elk v. Wilkins settled this in 1884 and retested by United States v. Wong Kim Ark in 1898. Your "criteria" is over 100 years out of date.
@halleyscomet, Under the second Act of 1855 a woman naturalized on marriage to a US Citizen man or when her husband naturalized (effective until 1922). In Perkins v Elg (1939) her father naturalized before her birth, thus naturalizing her mother before her birth, thus she was born in the USA to two US Citizen parents, and SCOTUS declared her a Natural Born Citizen. OBTW -- Wong Kim Ark in 1898 was only a US Citizen.
@halleyscomet, No the 1855 Act was not effected by 14th Amendment, it was in effect until 1922. I allowed for derivative citizenship of wife and stepchildren. It was in 1922, that it was seen as an error. The 14th Amendment is flawed and will be revised.
@timhenson08, "No the 1855 Act was not effected by 14th Amendment, it was in effect until 1922"
Actually I should've used "affected". I try to be correct.
The Act of 1855 was started before the 14th Amendment, but was in effect until repeal in 1922. My point being that Marie Elg's mother benefited from derivative naturalization on the naturalization of her husband. Then Marie was natural born citizen, in New York to 2 US Citizen parents. (Perkins v Elg (1939)
The 14th amendment was passed in 1868 to specifically change those rules. Whining about how much you prefer the immigration and citizenship laws that predated the amendment is as useless and ignorant as a pot-head whining about how hash USED to be legal.
Perkins v Elg (1939)
That case isn't relevant. It only adds an additional means of getting for natural born status, it doesn't remove others.
@halleyscomet, Perkins v Elg, is significant because it protects the US citizenship of minors removed with their parents and it defines NBC as "born to 2 US citizens in the USA". Elg's mother was naturalized by the Act of 1855. Don't ignore tis fact.
I pity you. The birther movement was created by Hillary Clinton during the primaries, an act for which Obama rewarded her handsomely. Obama meets the constitutional requirements for the presidency and yet you swallow BS nonsense spewed by Democratic operatives whose goal is to keep you yammering like a fool so you never achieve anything other than yell in this echo chamber.
Hillary has castrated you politically and you continue to defend the nonsense her office feeds you.
All you've done is enumerate additional ways in which you can achieve NB status. You have done nothing to counter the court cases that grant NB status to people who are merely born in the USA, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.
You are blindly and ignorantly arguing about issues of the law which you do not understand. All you achieve in this way is to drive the moderates further and further from the Republican party.
@cris750 Are you retarded? Do you SERIOUSLY not understand that borderraven's babbling came BEFORE the 14th Amendment and as a result he could NOT have been talking about it?
Well,actually Title 8 section 1401 (h) has the answer! Then again if there are any doubts find the answer through INS. The INS website has the rules for citizenship(natural-born/native-born) under INA:ACT 301 (h) !!! But yet if you still want to doubt then simply find out when his father entered Hawaii !!!!!
@cris750, Wrong. 8USC1401 only defines "US Citizen". But by deduction, knowing a US Citizen can be a Senator, and only a Natural Born Citizen can be a President; and a US Citizen is not a Natural Born Citizen, but a Natural Born Citizen is a US Citizen, we conclude a Natural Born Citizen is the product of two US Citizens.
7 January this goes before the Supreme Court again; with merit.
Lt Col Lakin will get his day on the US Congress floor as well.
The homoSatanist "Yes we can!"worshipers of the Fallen Lightning aka Baraq Obama will have to eat their words and lose their position for putting up feelings against US Constitutional expediency.
The fear of inner city riots is not justification to keep an unqualified Messiah in the White House.
@Boostnitup Thing is, if you were a REAL soldier, you'd know that the legality of Obama's presidency does not excuse the military from following orders. If it did then the military wold collapse the moment someone was impeached and didn't immediately cede his office. (Clinton?) Lt Col Lakin is a rank coward, using the birther foolishness as an excuse to not deploy again. Legally, Obama's eligibility is irrelevant to if Yellow Lakin follows orders.
@timhenson08 Unlawful orders are to be challenged. Soon you LIBtards of the homoSatanist "The One" will eat your words. We are going to see if Obama was vetted in a Republican controlled Congress. They can set aside the conviction.
The afterbirth movement is a joke. The legal case they were depending on was thrown out of court and the ditz who brought it was sanctioned. The case aganist Obama was found to be without merit. Obama is a natural born US citizen (his birth certificate was shown to be real unlike the so-called Kenyan one which was proved to be a fraud). R people really this dense? Maybe it's the fact Obama's half black that's their real problem? Seems that way.
Stop it @halleyscomet. Just stop. These ignorant, racist retards don't WANT to know the truth. They're too stupid to understand that a COLB IS a BC by federal standards. Hell, some of them are lying about the content on factcheck to pretend the August 21, 2008 article "Born in the U.S.A." doesn't exist. They're too stupid to understand that Obama is a native born citizen and too racist to care if their nonsense is true or not. Let them be disenfranchised, they're doing it to themselves.
@timhenson08 Assertions are not facts... release his documentation. We already know his mother was a slut and easy. She also was a communist. We know your record offered up by the Fallen Lightning doesn't add up to the documentation researched by investigators of Ms. Dunham aka Obama's mother.
blah blah blah...show me the EVIDENCE to support your argument idiot!!!..."is not what you know,its what you can prove" (Denzel Washington on Training Day)...
This what I know: * Obama is OUR president,whether you like or not,so GET OVER IT. *The beauty of America is that in 2 years you will have a chance to replace him as President so just be patient. *Arnold Swatchzeneger is an Austrian citizen governing the State of California and nobody seems to have a problem with that.
@carsea74 Yeah-but everything good from california is gone!(including ALL the jobs)-Arnolds a moron that just takes orders nicely-I mean for the sake of God-Did the people of California really find faith in the terminator? he's a baboon! America still has a chance! Also-if you own each horse in the race-does it really matter which one wins the presidential race?
Barry Soetoro of Indonesia spending over $2,000,000 to avoid presenting his birth certificate to people in the U.S. is one for the all-time record books! Now, this is a story bigger than any sound-minded person can fathom! This goes to show about 50% of the voters in the U.S. are Really Stupid! For the first time in my life, I'm embarrassed to say I live with so many stupid Americans. Can you now understand why President hmadinejad said: "Americans are idiots"?
"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai'i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai'i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."
@kageromaru He doesn''t have the authority to seal his birth records. Those are state health archives, not records he has any authority over. Go re-read the executive order you're probably thinking about, it only seals records relating to his administration.
Did ANY of you birthers pass your high school civics classes??
Vlad, the story about Obamas grandmother saying he was born in Kenya was debunked a long time ago. The video or audio you heard in which she supposedly said this was doctored.
You are a birther, which means you are insane.
And i detected a southern accent in your "Burn Obama Poster" vid, and with this little gem, my suspicions are confirmed.
give me the tinfoil hat. it's ok. just swallow these pills and a nurse will be in shortly with your pudding.
yes, yes, yes. it's chocolate. who's a good boy? you are! yes you ARE! YEES, you are!
the grown-ups don't want you posting anymore videos of silly things. ok? your imagination time is for you to share with YOU. not everyone. we'll play pretend again tomorrow, after some nighty night. ok?
According to the constitution it doesnt matter if you have dual citizenship. You have to be thirty-five, born in the US and you have to be a resident within the U.S. for fourteen years.
JEPE33 ur an idoit obama is doing worse so far than our last bimbo president. Since you have said that i feel stupider i cant belive how ignorant you are just because his skin color is diffrent than the 43 presidents before him doesnt make him intelligent he has been so far the wost president i think america has had so far nixon was better in his first 100 days the only reason obama won his election was because he is african american just look at the african american registration rate for 08 ha
Blacks are citizens too dumbass. You're the fucking ignorant one you twat. How can you call someone ignorant then say that just because his skin color is different he's not intelligent. Wow... I don't know if he's the MOST intelligent president we've ever had that needs a lot more time to judge than half-a-year, considering the circumstances. But he's rather intelligent and I have, a least, a little faith in him.
African-Americans are citizens, yes that is true. Although I don't know what that has to do with Obama since he's not an African-American. By the way, he may claim he is the most intelligent man to ever live. But any idiot would know that Health care bill is full of complete ignorance.
yeah, because JFK, Lincoln, Washington, and Teddy Roosevelt were all idiots. At least, that's what Obama would say since they were against Communism and socialism.
im pretty sure that the government knows this. All this infro that you have you obtained from reporters that obtained from the government; thus, with all the hoorah republicans dug up I am sure they would have said this and he would have been counted out before he even ran the election. Find something better to write about...like how racism has showed its face even more since his election. US citizens treating minorities like non citizens. : (
The 14th Amendment states any individual born anywhere in the US is a natural born citizen REGARDLESS of the nationality of the parents. Time & again the Supreme Court has upheld the Birthright Clause despite the fact that the parents were NOT US citizens check out INS v. Rios-Pineda 1985, Plyler v. Doe 1982, US v. Wong Kim Ark 1898. (To be contd).
that's why all his support and orientation has turned toward the Muslim world and
why he gave his first formal speech as President on Al-Arabiya TV. What a slap in the face to the gullible fools who supported this political Jihadist!
Obama does NOT count. You have to be born on US territory, either in the United States, or on a US military base over seas to be considered a US citizen, but to MY knowledge, the United States does not have any military base in Kenya or in Indonesia
Do you have a single shred of evidence that Obama was born anywhere other than Honolulu? The COLB that you can check out says he was, and it's prima facie evidence in any court proceeding. It's been vouched for multiple times by the Department of Health. Are they lying?
Why would an 18 year old leave her home and family to travel to a 3rd world country during a civil uprising while very pregnant? That makes no sense.
"We can't confirm or deny it — even though all the information out there says he was born at Kapiolani Hospital. And that's because of the HIPA law."
Tong acknowledged that the center has received daily inquiries from news agencies far and wide asking for confirmation of Obama's birthplace. Much as she wishes she could do it, Tong said it's not possible.
Does Hawaii have a birthplace for him? Uh, NO! Does Kenya have a bithplace for him? Uh, Yes!
You guys who can't seem to believe the truth of the matter, maybe need to tell your man Obama to show the rest of the world that he is who he claims to be, instead of spending thousands of dollars to hide it.
Or gosh, maybe he "can't" show it huh?
The pressure is building, and we won't stop until he shows us the proof. Like it or not, the constitution does matter to some of us.
Well, give me proof Obama was born in Hawaii. The Kenyan Ammbasador himself said he was born in Kenya, and named the exact hospital he was born in. However, there is no solid proof that he was born in Kenya nor in Hawaii.
Yes, I know, but, his mother travelled with him to Kenya (according to Ammbasador), and Ann Dunham gave birth to Obama JR. on Kenyan soil, but flew back to Hawaii the next day. (but this all according to the Kenyan Ammbasador).
@vladimir1944 Did it ever occur to you that the comically absurd number of machinations needed to arrange for Obama to be born on Kenyan soil is in and of itself an indication that he wasn't? Where did she even get the money for these two international flights? Why would she leave America to give birth in a third world ghetto? Since when is a woman ready to fly a DAY after giving birth?
cum dumpster. are you stupid? going around calling people names. you are a fucking epic fail. fuck you and your piece of shit lying kenyan fag friend obama. cum dumpster.
That's funny because A statement by Hawaiian officials claim that they have seen the birth certificate, but won't release an "original" birth certificate without permission, and that it has NEVER BEEN RELEASED to anyone as of yet.
Now we know why Obama made that trip back to Hawaii.
Supreme Court is going to look at this in December 5. If Mr.Obama was not born in America... He would not be elected to be the Next 44th President and President Bush will be STILL BE PRESIDENT. If Mr.Obama was elected to be President ,he will be the 44th President of The United States. UNDERSTAND-Agree or Disagree
Well, if Obama wont become our next President, then Biden will be our next President and every chosen person in the former Obama Administration would move up a notch.
I think Nancy Pelosi would be the next president until they have another election. Biden could not take office, as this is a serious crime and he would be contributing to this crime by taking office.
To be straight with you the black comminity and the white kiss ass librels that have no spines would probebly riot in the streets so even if its true fuck it because we would never here the end of it how the white devil took out The (holy one) obama.
The law at the time specified that "If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16." Since Barack Obama only had one U.S. citizen parent (his mother), and his mother had not been residing in the U.S. for at least five years after the age of 16 when Barack was born (because she herself was only 18 at the time), then he's not a natural-born citizen.
His mother was a natural-born U.S. citizen, his father was a Kenyan national, and his parents may or may not have been legally married in the eyes of U.S. law.
What do you think I did here? Since a Black Man is running for President, the Liberals would let anything from hin go by, like all the controversies we've discovered from him, they didn't do anything about it; this could be the biggest Controversy that the Liberals are letting pass on.
you are a fool and you should do your own research before you make comments that make you look like an moron.
Also don't for get to take a good look in the mirror in a year when we are all standing in line for food, and say to yourself you were wrong in voting in a terrorist.
How is any of this crap?, IT'S ALL FACT!!!! Obama's not a U.S. Citizen, so, in the Constitution, it says a person must be a "Natural Born Citizen", and Obama wasn't, so he can't run for President!!!!
Do you really think that the FBI, CIA, and secret service would allow someone to run for president if they were not born in the US as required by the Constitution? Did you not think long enough to put that together? You my friend are either spreading malicious hate or you're suffering from ignorance and/or stupidity of the worst kind.
Well It looks like all those "BIG AGENCIES" are not doing their job, since they found Obamas' aunt from Kenya living in America for free and illegally.
"obamas views are socialist. my grandpa fought against socialisim and you think he wants to vote for it! wow born in kenya. obama has NO experience. "NOBAMA"!
"Socialism" you mean like the police and fire department? or maybe the public school system? Or public works? Maybe an extreme YEY OR NEY position isn't the best here but a more specific "here is works, here is doesn't" policy? Or are we going to repeat the Regen mantra of red fear while the rest of the world passes us by with logical, practical, pro-social policy where appropriate? We have one of the worst infant mortality rates and lowest life spans as a country. Thats not from socialism
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."
- Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
Just come to England Obama everyone proper likes ur amazing thumbs
HDStudios123 3 days ago
@stage: ...you may one day be old enough and those such as you seldom grow out of their bigotry & stupidity!
...concerning your remark about castration, you aren't all that far off! Perhaps you should cut off and/or out your sexual organ's so that you can no longer pollute & contaminate the rest of the world with your retarded & defective seed?!! It would be the right thing to do!
Given that, DO IT RIGHT, USE A CHAINSAW!!!
SpookeyR 5 months ago
@stage: There really should be a test, like an I.Q. test, that we US citizen's are forced to take in order to qualify fully for the right to vote. I don't care if it isn't in the Constitution, they can pass an Amendment and put it in the Constitution! I don't care if it is politically incorrect, disqualifying retard's such as yourself who are to stupid to know who is best to hold what political office anyway; besides the fact that you are still to young to vote, ...
SpookeyR 5 months ago
Im neither a snit or a dead zipper. If Ur familiar with the process, Its up to the accuser to prove a case.This isn't an issue that can ever be proven to all satisfaction.
Even if O WAS born here, as it seems, he still can claim British citizenship if he likes.
O-has less than 50% who say they'd ever vote for him again, focus on this & there lies the end of him. The truth will come out, but not soon enough to affect 2012. Focus on a win in 12 , let history correct it self.
onstageagain 5 months ago
@vladimir: "Barack Obama Is Not A U.S. Citizen, Not Eligible To Be U.S. President"
Thanks for the info, "Mr. White Supremacist Shill" (Bare minimum!); we'll take that into account while you are having sex with your "sis, ma, pa and that cute lil taby" that walk's in front of your trailer!
This video is the very definition of FAIL.
SpookeyR 5 months ago
That is the paradigm most people think. Well guess what... A Birth Certificate does not necessarily make you a U.S. Citizen. 14th Amendment says that you must ALSO be under the jurisdiction thereof, and that is said in the same sentence as being born in the U.S.
What one needs to do, is to read Emerich Vattel's book "Law of Nations" (written in 1758 and taught at the College of William and Mary, where 16 signers of the US Constitution and 3 early U.S. Presidents attended)
Be Complete!
4thBnOHMM 7 months ago
“There’s nothing that I’m aware of that says you have to have two American parents,” said Gary Kreep, executive director of the United States Justice Foundation. “My understanding of it is if you’re born in the United States, you’re a natural-born citizen, period.”
Birfers fail!
clarity023 8 months ago
Have there been any investigations into Passport and flight records for mom?
thomassoderman 9 months ago
The reason you only allow natural born citizens to become presidents is because someone who swears allegiance to another country might have different interests than the advancement of our own nation. That's the perfect way to kill the Constitution; let outsiders in to wreck havoc.
I do care if he was born here, and I will NOT vote for a foreigner to sit in the Oval Office.
cbrhawk1 9 months ago
I don't care birth certificate or not. The way he swaggers up to the microphone and talks down to and about America erks me. I'm at the point where if he comes on TV now I'll change to something, anything else. As far as the birth certificate goes, I hope they can prove he wasn't born here. It might be the only way to get rid of him. While their at it I hope they get rid of Pelosi for vouching for him: that would probably be asking to much.
onstageagain 9 months ago
The GOP wanted to kill the Obama health care plan. Wouldn't it have been simpler to just have him arrested if he was in the White House illegally?
Do any of you realize how incompetent, stupid and downright blind the entire Republican party would need to be for the bither claims to be true? If Obama's presidency is illegal, then the GOP needs to be completely abandoned and replaced, not allowed to merge with the Koch Brothers' Tea Party.
timhenson08 11 months ago
@timhenson08, The Alinsky Method has worked flawlessly, and you are helping.
If you don't get it by now, I predict the situation will reach a point where it is no longer worth my efforts to stop it. It's like being on a speeding train, heading for a crevasse, unable to get off, so I'll just be quiet. I tried to warn you. You ignored me, so you can accept your Karma.
borderraven 11 months ago
@borderraven "The Alinsky Method has worked flawlessl"
True. Hillary Clinton's astroturf "birther" movement has done a great job of marginalizing a large swath of conservatives. She even managed to orchestrate a takeover of the Republican party by extremists, pretty much guaranteeing a Democratic resurgence for 2012.
She's playing you guys like a fiddle. It's an impressive sight to see.
halleyscomet 10 months ago
Riddle me this birthers: If Obama isn't legally qualified to be President, why didn't the McCain campaign jump on this before the election? Why hasn't anyone in DC taken action? The location and time of his birth is settled. His father's identity is known. Do y'all seriously believe you know better than the entirety of the Republican leadership and the entire GOP is part of a scheme to keep a man they HATE in the White House?
timhenson08 11 months ago
@timhenson08, Yes, I and others, do know more than the entire GOP. We see the truth. Your problem is, if you don't fix this now, your grandchildren will never see the USA as the Founding Fathers intended. Every future presidential election will have US-born dual-citizens running and you can't stop it.
See
scribd*com/doc/46146244/US-President-Eligibility
borderraven 11 months ago
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endikakusum 11 months ago
There are only 2 paths to US citizenship:
1. Naturalization in a United State = US Citizen
2. Birth. There are 4 sub-paths to US citizenship by birth:
a. Foreign birth to a US Citizen in a Foreign State = US Citizen
b. Foreign birth to 2 US Citizens in a Foreign State = US NBC
c. Native birth to a US Citizen in a United State = US Citizen
d. Natural birth to 2 US Citizens in a United State = US NBC
Since Obama isn't natural born, he is ineligible to be POTUS.
borderraven 11 months ago
@borderraven "Since Obama isn't natural born"
So being born in Hawaii AFTER it was made a US state doesn't make one a Natural Born citizen?
How do you figure that?
halleyscomet 11 months ago 2
@halleyscomet, If Obama was born in a US State subject to Hawaii and US laws granting him US citizenship by birth; and he was born to a UK Citizen father under UK consular jurisdiction granting him UK Citizenship by birth. He was not born NBC and cannot be converted to NBC. In the US he is a US Citizen.
scribd*com/doc/47290773/Timeline-Barack-h-Obama-II-1961-to-1982
If he was born outside the US, and his mother was not yet 19 years old, then he was born UK Citizen.
borderraven 11 months ago
@borderraven You really should look up the case law surrounding the 14th Amendment. According to US law the nationality of the parents is irrelevant. The mere fact that he was born in Hawaii makes him a Natural Born Citizen. You need to stop wasting your breath on this long debunked bit of nonsense and learn about his actual policies instead of whining about white supremacist conspiracy theories regarding his citizenship status.
halleyscomet 11 months ago
@halleyscomet , JOHN BINGHAM 37th Congress 2nd Session House of Representatives 1862
"All persons born within the Republic, OF PARENTS OWING ALLEGIANCE TO NO OTHER SOVEREIGNTY, ARE NATURAL BORN CITIZENS. "
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borderraven 11 months ago
@borderraven
The passage of the 14th amendment and court cases I mentioned happened AFTER Bingham's statements were made, meaning even IF that were a law you were quoting it was supplanted by the 14th amendment and the subsequent rulings.
The law changes over time. What you did is about as effective as trying to defend yourself in a pot possession trial by pointing out that marijuana USED to be legal.
1868 happened AFTER 1862. Stop ignoring the 14th Amendment.
halleyscomet 11 months ago
@halleyscomet, Joh Bingham's comments have nothing to do with the 14th Amendment, but the 14th "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" follows Bingham.
borderraven 11 months ago
@borderraven "Joh Bingham's comments have nothing to do with the 14th Amendment"
No, they don't, as they were rendered irrelevant by the 14th Amendment. His comments, his opinions, carry no legal weight. He does not matter. Even if his opinions had been law AT THE TIME the 14th Amendment would have nullified that law.
You should stop quoting Bingham. It just makes you look ignorant to anyone who passed their highs school civics courses.
halleyscomet 11 months ago
@borderraven That law or opinion was changed over time.
cris750 11 months ago
@cris750, Laws are effective in their period of effectiveness, which is as long as the law is in effect.
borderraven 11 months ago
@borderraven "JOHN BINGHAM 37th Congress 2nd Session House of Representatives 1862"
It's so cute how you keep quoting the rant of a racist as of it had any legal relevance. Hillary's manufactured astroturf "birther" movement has you by the short hairs and you're too busy hating the black man to realize you're being played like a fiddle.
It's hilarious!
timhenson08 11 months ago
@timhenson08, Oh, but you are in error, for I do not hate the black man, and I have many friends, men and women, black, white, Asian, Latino, who I love for their character. I however must question the character of Barack Hussein Obama,since I find him to be scoundrel,not worthy of my trust or admiration. If you were not blinded by idol worship, then you too would question him, as to his warrant to hold the high office, the most trusted position, that of the President of these 50 United States.
borderraven 11 months ago
@borderraven "If you were not blinded by idol worship"
I love how you equate admitting Obama is a NBC to "hero worship." I happen to think he's a rotten president, but that doesn't mean it's illegal for him to hold office.
What did you think of all the liberals who insisted Bush should have been arrested over the Florida election debacle back in 2000? Do you realize you sound even MORE retarded than they did?
timhenson08 11 months ago
@timhenson08, Oh how is Obama legal to be president, he is a US citizen?
borderraven 11 months ago
@borderraven "he is a US citizen?"
Since he was born in Hawaii and legally his father's nationality has no bearing upon his citizenship yes he is. Your constant denial is, frankly, pathetic. Do you REALLY think McCain would have dropped the ball on something as major as the citizenship of his opponent? Even Glenn Beck, one of the most conspiracy minded pundits on the Right, dismisses the "birther" nonsense.
Why do you waste your time on an issue Hillary made up?
timhenson08 11 months ago
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@timhenson08, Oh you BS well. His father's citizenship has no affect on his US citizenship. He was born equally a US citizen as a UK citizen, and up until he was 22 he had the option of choosing, but because he was born with that option to choose, then he is not a US Natural Born Citizen.
See
scribd*com/doc/46146244/US-President-Eligibility
scribd*com/doc/47290773/Timeline-Barack-h-Obama-II-1961-to-1982
borderraven 11 months ago
@borderraven "because he was born with that option to choose, then he is not a US Natural Born Citizen."
That is a flat out lie and there are no actual laws to support that claim. You WISH his father's nationality was relevant, but there are no actual LAWS to support that claim. Your entire claim is based upon the fact that you are ignorant of how US law actually works and how citizenship is actually conveyed.
timhenson08 11 months ago
@timhenson08,
See
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and
scribd*com/doc/20621020/John-Bingham-Quote-About-Natural-Born-Citizen-Not-About-14th-Amendment
and
In United States v. Rhodes (1866), Mr. Justice Swayne, sitting in the Circuit Court, said:
"all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens.”
[This would rule out dual-citizens from being natural-born citizens.]
borderraven 11 months ago
@borderraven I don't care birth certificate or not. The way he swaggers up to the microphone and talks down to and about America erks me. I'm at the point where if he comes on TV now I'll change to something, anything else. As far as the birth certificate goes, I hope they can prove he wasn't born here. It might be the only way to get rid of him. While their at it I hope they get rid of Pelosi for vouching for him: that would probably be asking to much.
onstageagain 9 months ago
@stage: "As far as the birth certificate goes, I hope they can prove he wasn't born here. It might be the only way to get rid of him."
Okay so, you are willing to support a FAILED white supremacist idea in hopes of achieving ...what?! The way that you cry & moan about the two party political paradigm means that I may very well have to nominate you for "THE DUMBEST PERSON ON YOUTUBE" award...
The competition is stiff but, you're pretty fuckin' stupid! You've got a real shot.
SpookeyR 5 months ago
@SpookeyR Congress does two things well, nothing & overreacting. Ur calling me the dumbest? Ur new in town R ya? Politicians love Ur type, they create hate & anger in people. It's inherently civil war. Since the State is based on coercion & threat of violence, so is politics. Nothing more than who gets to apply how much violence to people. Sets people at war with each other, makes people paranoid, they always think if the opposing party gets into power, they'll do terrible things to them.
onstageagain 5 months ago
@SpookeyR Shouting Loud & Clear. Im secretly sorry Obama showed his birth BC. I was hoping that got him out ,ass end first. Obama’s original BC finally shows, the claim he already released it as a lie. Meaning ,Hawaii would not release the certificate, a proven lie.
My sis & my father both born in Hawaii have long form BC. My G.G. G. Grandfather born in Hawaii 1/20/ 1837 in Lahaina on the island of Maui. Not sure if he had a BC but he did make it into wikipedia.
onstageagain 5 months ago
@stage: Interesting set of lies there! Pretty cheap: where did you get them, a dollar store?!
He released the long form to shut you ppl the fuck up. Unfortunately, you moron's don't know how to do that! I suppose you'll blame that on him, too, right??
"We bloggers & nerds R more technically competent than CIA & Obammy stooges combined so I trust them to verify the docs."
Yea, right! So, what are you, about 14?! Your dad let's you on the internet & here you are trolling...
SpookeyR 5 months ago
@SpookeyR Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others ! U offer no facts... The only thing U have to offer is castration & criticism, sorry , Im not Ur wife ! I'm stupid, I'm ugly, I'm dumb, I smell. Did I mention I'm stupid? By the way, if you don't like my parties U can leave in a huff. If that's too soon, leave in a minute & a huff. If U can't find that U can leave in a taxi.
onstageagain 5 months ago
@stage: Your "principles" are that of a "white supremacist shill", bare minimum. (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt!) I have fact's and I've been hitting you with them consistently about Barack Obama; you have yet to have a point out or to provide anything resembling factual information!
Hmm, go figure!
SpookeyR 5 months ago
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@SpookeyR
Here we go again... Put downs , castrations , complaining... when there are millions of other parties to attend , U keep showing up at my door.
Again... little boy... No one invited U... so if U don't like my parties U can leave in a huff. If that's too soon, leave in a minute & a huff. If U can't find that U can leave in a taxi. U won't be missed.
onstageagain 5 months ago
@SpookeyR Notice Obammy produced his BC right after he promoted the head of the CIA, an orgi with billions of $-$ worth of fake-identity document production systems & experts for R super-spies, to be the new Sect. of Def. A merit promotion?
Wonder if Columbia & Harvard U.docs. will now be shown at some later time by Penetta or his successor.
We bloggers & nerds R more technically competent than CIA & Obammy stooges combined so I trust them to verify the docs.
onstageagain 5 months ago
@SpookeyR Next Q? Wheres his Selective Service card? He IS Commander N Chief. As for college records, I'd like to see transcripts at Occidental that's so fabulous that he got INTO Columbia then Harvard. His app would be more interesting than his transcript. His SAT/ACT would answer the ? that hes the Smartest President, LOL . Maybe my ears were bad that day & they said Smarmiest. Oh No, thats Bill! Liberals tend to put onus of Ur success on society & conservatives on U & family
onstageagain 5 months ago
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@stage: "Next Q? Wheres his Selective Service card? ... "
...& here you are, with your 72 I.Q., bitchin' about his Selective Service card, college record's, SAT/ACT, etc. Did anybody ever bring up Ronald Reagan's BC or any other such documentation on him?! No, he wasn't black & he didn't have a funny sounding name. Every reason to scream like a retard about Barack Obama, hmm??
Love the FAIL, it suit's you well.
SpookeyR 5 months ago
@borderraven "I do not hate the black man"
LOL!
Pull the other one Charlie. I'm sure no one will check out your youtube videos and judge your race views for themselves. At least "out" white supremacists have the guts to admit who they are. You closet racists are disgusting and pathetic.
timhenson08 11 months ago
@borderraven " he was born to a UK Citizen father under UK consular jurisdiction granting him UK Citizenship by birth"
And because he made no effort to renew that citizenship when he turned 18, it lapsed, leaving him only his native born US citizenship.
Your ignorance of the law is amusing slave.
timhenson08 11 months ago
@borderraven You are completely ignoring the case law surrounding the 14th amendment. Elk v. Wilkins settled this in 1884 and retested by United States v. Wong Kim Ark in 1898. Your "criteria" is over 100 years out of date.
halleyscomet 11 months ago
@halleyscomet, Under the second Act of 1855 a woman naturalized on marriage to a US Citizen man or when her husband naturalized (effective until 1922). In Perkins v Elg (1939) her father naturalized before her birth, thus naturalizing her mother before her birth, thus she was born in the USA to two US Citizen parents, and SCOTUS declared her a Natural Born Citizen. OBTW -- Wong Kim Ark in 1898 was only a US Citizen.
borderraven 11 months ago
@borderraven "Under the second Act of 1855 "
So? The 14 Amendment changed that. You really need to do some rudimentary date checking if you want to be taken seriously.
halleyscomet 11 months ago
@halleyscomet, No the 1855 Act was not effected by 14th Amendment, it was in effect until 1922. I allowed for derivative citizenship of wife and stepchildren. It was in 1922, that it was seen as an error. The 14th Amendment is flawed and will be revised.
borderraven 11 months ago
@borderraven "No the 1855 Act was not effected by 14th Amendment, it was in effect until 1922"
The fantasies in your fruity little head are not the concern of the law. You can bitch and moan all you want but the LAW disagrees with you.
timhenson08 11 months ago
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@timhenson08, "No the 1855 Act was not effected by 14th Amendment, it was in effect until 1922"
Actually I should've used "affected". I try to be correct.
The Act of 1855 was started before the 14th Amendment, but was in effect until repeal in 1922. My point being that Marie Elg's mother benefited from derivative naturalization on the naturalization of her husband. Then Marie was natural born citizen, in New York to 2 US Citizen parents. (Perkins v Elg (1939)
borderraven 11 months ago
@borderraven
"Under the second Act of 1855"
The 14th amendment was passed in 1868 to specifically change those rules. Whining about how much you prefer the immigration and citizenship laws that predated the amendment is as useless and ignorant as a pot-head whining about how hash USED to be legal.
Perkins v Elg (1939)
That case isn't relevant. It only adds an additional means of getting for natural born status, it doesn't remove others.
halleyscomet 11 months ago
@halleyscomet, Perkins v Elg, is significant because it protects the US citizenship of minors removed with their parents and it defines NBC as "born to 2 US citizens in the USA". Elg's mother was naturalized by the Act of 1855. Don't ignore tis fact.
borderraven 11 months ago
@borderraven Are you retarded? Do you really NOT get that the court case doesn't say ANYTHING that disqualified Obama?
Why not just ADMIT you don't like having a black president and stop trying to dress up your hatred with legally absurd BS?
timhenson08 11 months ago
@timhenson08, I still have my mind intact, how about you?
Sorry, you lost be at "black".
Which would you defend? (Choose only one.)
A. The US Constitution
B. Barack Hussein Obama II
borderraven 11 months ago
@borderraven
I pity you. The birther movement was created by Hillary Clinton during the primaries, an act for which Obama rewarded her handsomely. Obama meets the constitutional requirements for the presidency and yet you swallow BS nonsense spewed by Democratic operatives whose goal is to keep you yammering like a fool so you never achieve anything other than yell in this echo chamber.
Hillary has castrated you politically and you continue to defend the nonsense her office feeds you.
halleyscomet 11 months ago
@borderraven "Which would you defend?"
Both.
All you've done is enumerate additional ways in which you can achieve NB status. You have done nothing to counter the court cases that grant NB status to people who are merely born in the USA, regardless of the citizenship of their parents.
You are blindly and ignorantly arguing about issues of the law which you do not understand. All you achieve in this way is to drive the moderates further and further from the Republican party.
halleyscomet 11 months ago
@halleyscomet, What court cases are you referring to?
Quote case and sentence in the case.
borderraven 11 months ago
@halleyscomet Exactly. Why is borderraven establishing his/her opinion on something that has been changed(or abrogated or amended)?
cris750 11 months ago
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@cris750, "Exactly. Why is borderraven establishing his/her opinion on something that has been changed(or abrogated or amended)?"
Do you have a question?
borderraven 11 months ago
@cris750 Are you retarded? Do you SERIOUSLY not understand that borderraven's babbling came BEFORE the 14th Amendment and as a result he could NOT have been talking about it?
timhenson08 11 months ago
@timhenson08 President Obama is NOT President Arthur!!! Different era equals different rules. The INS website is pretty clear.
cris750 11 months ago
@borderraven President Barack Hussein Obama would be (c.)!!! I would be (a.) because my father was in the U.S. military.
cris750 11 months ago
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borderraven 11 months ago
Well,actually Title 8 section 1401 (h) has the answer! Then again if there are any doubts find the answer through INS. The INS website has the rules for citizenship(natural-born/native-born) under INA:ACT 301 (h) !!! But yet if you still want to doubt then simply find out when his father entered Hawaii !!!!!
cris750 1 year ago
@cris750, Wrong. 8USC1401 only defines "US Citizen". But by deduction, knowing a US Citizen can be a Senator, and only a Natural Born Citizen can be a President; and a US Citizen is not a Natural Born Citizen, but a Natural Born Citizen is a US Citizen, we conclude a Natural Born Citizen is the product of two US Citizens.
borderraven 11 months ago
Once Obama got married,that made him an American citizen.Sadly,that means he cannot be deported.Fortunately,he can still be hanged for treason.
ImDavidGurney 1 year ago
@ImDavidGurney, says "Once Obama got married,that made him an American citizen."
Wrong. The US ended derivative citizenship in 1922.
borderraven 11 months ago
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UjdjjkGkdlak 1 year ago
7 January this goes before the Supreme Court again; with merit.
Lt Col Lakin will get his day on the US Congress floor as well.
The homoSatanist "Yes we can!"worshipers of the Fallen Lightning aka Baraq Obama will have to eat their words and lose their position for putting up feelings against US Constitutional expediency.
The fear of inner city riots is not justification to keep an unqualified Messiah in the White House.
Boostnitup 1 year ago
@Boostnitup Thing is, if you were a REAL soldier, you'd know that the legality of Obama's presidency does not excuse the military from following orders. If it did then the military wold collapse the moment someone was impeached and didn't immediately cede his office. (Clinton?) Lt Col Lakin is a rank coward, using the birther foolishness as an excuse to not deploy again. Legally, Obama's eligibility is irrelevant to if Yellow Lakin follows orders.
timhenson08 1 year ago
@timhenson08 Unlawful orders are to be challenged. Soon you LIBtards of the homoSatanist "The One" will eat your words. We are going to see if Obama was vetted in a Republican controlled Congress. They can set aside the conviction.
Boostnitup 1 year ago
Respond to this video... As for REAL soldier... that is Master Sergeant USAF retired to you... a ground grunt 8 years of it too.
Boostnitup 1 year ago
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@Boostnitup "that is Master Sergeant USAF retired to you... a ground grunt 8 years of it too."
Oh please, your absurd claims of military service have already been debunked. Stop pretending.
halleyscomet 11 months ago
@timhenson08, Look at Egypt's military refusing orders of the president to attack protesters opposing the president. Learn from it.
borderraven 11 months ago
The afterbirth movement is a joke. The legal case they were depending on was thrown out of court and the ditz who brought it was sanctioned. The case aganist Obama was found to be without merit. Obama is a natural born US citizen (his birth certificate was shown to be real unlike the so-called Kenyan one which was proved to be a fraud). R people really this dense? Maybe it's the fact Obama's half black that's their real problem? Seems that way.
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dumindahashan 1 year ago
im not into this fuck until i see a REAL birth certificate. but where is it?
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dan0987654321 1 year ago
Stop it @halleyscomet. Just stop. These ignorant, racist retards don't WANT to know the truth. They're too stupid to understand that a COLB IS a BC by federal standards. Hell, some of them are lying about the content on factcheck to pretend the August 21, 2008 article "Born in the U.S.A." doesn't exist. They're too stupid to understand that Obama is a native born citizen and too racist to care if their nonsense is true or not. Let them be disenfranchised, they're doing it to themselves.
timhenson08 1 year ago
@timhenson08 Assertions are not facts... release his documentation. We already know his mother was a slut and easy. She also was a communist. We know your record offered up by the Fallen Lightning doesn't add up to the documentation researched by investigators of Ms. Dunham aka Obama's mother.
Boostnitup 1 year ago
You know, I feel bad for those Secret Service (SS) men protecting this Lie...they must either be robots or dumb as rocks...
MARSTEC1 1 year ago
@MARSTEC1 Or brainwashed and they don't actually know they're doing it.
kageromaru 1 year ago
blah blah blah...show me the EVIDENCE to support your argument idiot!!!..."is not what you know,its what you can prove" (Denzel Washington on Training Day)...
This what I know: * Obama is OUR president,whether you like or not,so GET OVER IT. *The beauty of America is that in 2 years you will have a chance to replace him as President so just be patient. *Arnold Swatchzeneger is an Austrian citizen governing the State of California and nobody seems to have a problem with that.
carsea74 1 year ago
@carsea74 Yeah-but everything good from california is gone!(including ALL the jobs)-Arnolds a moron that just takes orders nicely-I mean for the sake of God-Did the people of California really find faith in the terminator? he's a baboon! America still has a chance! Also-if you own each horse in the race-does it really matter which one wins the presidential race?
Jeenyus1983 1 year ago
@carsea74 Schwarzenegger and his grandpa are part of the same bunch HItler and your beloved Soetoro is.
The nazi terminator himself said he wants to have the power to kill people, and la, he sure has that power now.
And no, the not-black Soetoro isn't YOUR president. He's the president of the people that are slowly killing you.
kageromaru 1 year ago
Barry Soetoro of Indonesia spending over $2,000,000 to avoid presenting his birth certificate to people in the U.S. is one for the all-time record books! Now, this is a story bigger than any sound-minded person can fathom! This goes to show about 50% of the voters in the U.S. are Really Stupid! For the first time in my life, I'm embarrassed to say I live with so many stupid Americans. Can you now understand why President hmadinejad said: "Americans are idiots"?
DrKerrPhD 1 year ago
i notice your nam is similir to the former soviet kgb leader. stop screwing with our government or well ship you back to russia too.
Joesolo13 1 year ago
"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai'i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai'i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@halleyscomet Funny, he can't access sealed records. I bet you ate his lie.
kageromaru 1 year ago
@kageromaru He doesn''t have the authority to seal his birth records. Those are state health archives, not records he has any authority over. Go re-read the executive order you're probably thinking about, it only seals records relating to his administration.
Did ANY of you birthers pass your high school civics classes??
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@halleyscomet He's the president, he can do anything he wants.
kageromaru 1 year ago
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@kageromaru "He's the president, he can do anything he wants."
He's a president, not a dictator. There are constitutional limits on his power.
halleyscomet 1 year ago
@kageromaru We will see about that in 3 weeks.
Boostnitup 1 year ago
at the end of the day you voted him in meaning that the majority of Americans who voted, voted for Obama thats how democracy works.
Havaanie 2 years ago
Vlad, the story about Obamas grandmother saying he was born in Kenya was debunked a long time ago. The video or audio you heard in which she supposedly said this was doctored.
You are a birther, which means you are insane.
And i detected a southern accent in your "Burn Obama Poster" vid, and with this little gem, my suspicions are confirmed.
franksinclair1 2 years ago
I dont know where Obama was born, but what does him having a southern accent have to do with anything?
destenmorgan6 1 year ago
give me the tinfoil hat. it's ok. just swallow these pills and a nurse will be in shortly with your pudding.
yes, yes, yes. it's chocolate. who's a good boy? you are! yes you ARE! YEES, you are!
the grown-ups don't want you posting anymore videos of silly things. ok? your imagination time is for you to share with YOU. not everyone. we'll play pretend again tomorrow, after some nighty night. ok?
goodnight, precious. sweet dreams.
docdrew87 2 years ago
According to the constitution it doesnt matter if you have dual citizenship. You have to be thirty-five, born in the US and you have to be a resident within the U.S. for fourteen years.
biscopimp 2 years ago
Bull fucking shit! Dual citizens are not natural born citizens!
StinkingHombre 2 years ago 2
JEPE33 ur an idoit obama is doing worse so far than our last bimbo president. Since you have said that i feel stupider i cant belive how ignorant you are just because his skin color is diffrent than the 43 presidents before him doesnt make him intelligent he has been so far the wost president i think america has had so far nixon was better in his first 100 days the only reason obama won his election was because he is african american just look at the african american registration rate for 08 ha
48731111 2 years ago
Blacks are citizens too dumbass. You're the fucking ignorant one you twat. How can you call someone ignorant then say that just because his skin color is different he's not intelligent. Wow... I don't know if he's the MOST intelligent president we've ever had that needs a lot more time to judge than half-a-year, considering the circumstances. But he's rather intelligent and I have, a least, a little faith in him.
sephyr242 2 years ago
African-Americans are citizens, yes that is true. Although I don't know what that has to do with Obama since he's not an African-American. By the way, he may claim he is the most intelligent man to ever live. But any idiot would know that Health care bill is full of complete ignorance.
destenmorgan6 1 year ago
It's funny how youtube shows their side by saying that this video has invalid arguments lol
twentyfoursevenband 2 years ago
if all this is true, then we are lucky that no one found out during elections, for we have the most intelligent president of all times
JEPE33 2 years ago
yeah, because JFK, Lincoln, Washington, and Teddy Roosevelt were all idiots. At least, that's what Obama would say since they were against Communism and socialism.
destenmorgan6 1 year ago
im pretty sure that the government knows this. All this infro that you have you obtained from reporters that obtained from the government; thus, with all the hoorah republicans dug up I am sure they would have said this and he would have been counted out before he even ran the election. Find something better to write about...like how racism has showed its face even more since his election. US citizens treating minorities like non citizens. : (
SweetNectar04 2 years ago
(contd) If Obama went before the Supreme Court today he would win hands down.
Personally I am against the Birthright Clause and I'm not Obama's biggest fan, but we must uphold the Constitution and the Rule of Law.
inspectorgadget0011 2 years ago
The 14th Amendment states any individual born anywhere in the US is a natural born citizen REGARDLESS of the nationality of the parents. Time & again the Supreme Court has upheld the Birthright Clause despite the fact that the parents were NOT US citizens check out INS v. Rios-Pineda 1985, Plyler v. Doe 1982, US v. Wong Kim Ark 1898. (To be contd).
inspectorgadget0011 2 years ago
IMPEACH!!!!!
WingsOfFreedom101 2 years ago 2
This video is pathetic. Don't cry about it now. Move on and catch up with the rest of the world you american retards...
MickeyLove01 2 years ago
Obama is a Saudi-financed interloper;
that's why all his support and orientation has turned toward the Muslim world and
why he gave his first formal speech as President on Al-Arabiya TV. What a slap in the face to the gullible fools who supported this political Jihadist!
jackinla8 2 years ago 2
you guys are ridiculous pahahahaha
hella1990 3 years ago
Obama is not a U.S. Citizen but,his Mother was born in the United States/or Hawaii.
Hawaii is part of the USA.
Obama still count...
Lurker15 3 years ago
Obama does NOT count. You have to be born on US territory, either in the United States, or on a US military base over seas to be considered a US citizen, but to MY knowledge, the United States does not have any military base in Kenya or in Indonesia
diasflac182000 2 years ago
Do you have a single shred of evidence that Obama was born anywhere other than Honolulu? The COLB that you can check out says he was, and it's prima facie evidence in any court proceeding. It's been vouched for multiple times by the Department of Health. Are they lying?
Why would an 18 year old leave her home and family to travel to a 3rd world country during a civil uprising while very pregnant? That makes no sense.
qwertyman129 2 years ago
dude it was proven today he is a us citizen.
The problem is you are afraid of failure..
Iori400 2 years ago
Obama`s mother. :D
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Fridaey13txhOktober 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I would never have voted for Obama
if anyone would have been told
he was not natural born before
I voted. I've been cheated and
I WON'T TOLERATE IT. 129
az10101010 3 years ago
"We can't confirm or deny it — even though all the information out there says he was born at Kapiolani Hospital. And that's because of the HIPA law."
Tong acknowledged that the center has received daily inquiries from news agencies far and wide asking for confirmation of Obama's birthplace. Much as she wishes she could do it, Tong said it's not possible.
"Our hands are tied," she said.
KillHighPitch 3 years ago
Does Hawaii have a birthplace for him? Uh, NO! Does Kenya have a bithplace for him? Uh, Yes!
You guys who can't seem to believe the truth of the matter, maybe need to tell your man Obama to show the rest of the world that he is who he claims to be, instead of spending thousands of dollars to hide it.
Or gosh, maybe he "can't" show it huh?
The pressure is building, and we won't stop until he shows us the proof. Like it or not, the constitution does matter to some of us.
vicki5623 3 years ago
Obama was born in Hawaii, and Hawaii is now considered a US State, don't be ridiculous.
GamingPalooza 3 years ago
Well, give me proof Obama was born in Hawaii. The Kenyan Ammbasador himself said he was born in Kenya, and named the exact hospital he was born in. However, there is no solid proof that he was born in Kenya nor in Hawaii.
vladimir1944 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
are you fucking stupid... Barack Obama SR, his father was born in Kenya, who was known as Barack Obama also.
GamingPalooza 3 years ago
Yes, I know, but, his mother travelled with him to Kenya (according to Ammbasador), and Ann Dunham gave birth to Obama JR. on Kenyan soil, but flew back to Hawaii the next day. (but this all according to the Kenyan Ammbasador).
vladimir1944 3 years ago
@vladimir1944 Did it ever occur to you that the comically absurd number of machinations needed to arrange for Obama to be born on Kenyan soil is in and of itself an indication that he wasn't? Where did she even get the money for these two international flights? Why would she leave America to give birth in a third world ghetto? Since when is a woman ready to fly a DAY after giving birth?
halleyscomet 1 year ago
cum dumpster. are you stupid? going around calling people names. you are a fucking epic fail. fuck you and your piece of shit lying kenyan fag friend obama. cum dumpster.
Lifeisincredible911 2 years ago
@vladimir1944 Barack Obama SR, his father was born in Kenya.
halleyscomet 11 months ago
Where at in Hawaii? What hospital?
That's funny because A statement by Hawaiian officials claim that they have seen the birth certificate, but won't release an "original" birth certificate without permission, and that it has NEVER BEEN RELEASED to anyone as of yet.
Now we know why Obama made that trip back to Hawaii.
vicki5623 3 years ago 2
Hah! Obama 08!
Silverframe 3 years ago
Supreme Court is going to look at this in December 5. If Mr.Obama was not born in America... He would not be elected to be the Next 44th President and President Bush will be STILL BE PRESIDENT. If Mr.Obama was elected to be President ,he will be the 44th President of The United States. UNDERSTAND-Agree or Disagree
Lurker500 3 years ago
Well, if Obama wont become our next President, then Biden will be our next President and every chosen person in the former Obama Administration would move up a notch.
vladimir1944 3 years ago
oh yeah,joe biden is our next vice president
Lurker500 3 years ago
I think Nancy Pelosi would be the next president until they have another election. Biden could not take office, as this is a serious crime and he would be contributing to this crime by taking office.
CalifSunshine2008 3 years ago
kanookle is a bitch
fredfen2009 3 years ago
To be straight with you the black comminity and the white kiss ass librels that have no spines would probebly riot in the streets so even if its true fuck it because we would never here the end of it how the white devil took out The (holy one) obama.
fredfen2009 3 years ago
yes 2008 either december 1 or the 5
fredfen2009 3 years ago
Supreme court is going to look at this december 5
fredfen2009 3 years ago
what year,2008
Lurker500 3 years ago
I think the government would know if he weren't born here. It's just some jealous people now. Jealous or bitter, or both.
Ecksntrick8 3 years ago
The law at the time specified that "If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16." Since Barack Obama only had one U.S. citizen parent (his mother), and his mother had not been residing in the U.S. for at least five years after the age of 16 when Barack was born (because she herself was only 18 at the time), then he's not a natural-born citizen.
glennokada 3 years ago
His mother was a natural-born U.S. citizen, his father was a Kenyan national, and his parents may or may not have been legally married in the eyes of U.S. law.
glennokada 3 years ago
That is soo a big bullsh*t....
Fronsac83 3 years ago
Obama was born in Kansas. But who cares anyway about your stupid video, Obama is President!
nakeutectic 3 years ago
Obama was born in Hawaii actually.
Ecksntrick8 3 years ago
Obama is a U.S citizen. If not, how could he run for president moron do your reseach
nakeutectic 3 years ago
What do you think I did here? Since a Black Man is running for President, the Liberals would let anything from hin go by, like all the controversies we've discovered from him, they didn't do anything about it; this could be the biggest Controversy that the Liberals are letting pass on.
vladimir1944 3 years ago
you are a fool and you should do your own research before you make comments that make you look like an moron.
Also don't for get to take a good look in the mirror in a year when we are all standing in line for food, and say to yourself you were wrong in voting in a terrorist.
dan061264 3 years ago
Crap!!! Obama 08!!!
nakeutectic 3 years ago
How is any of this crap?, IT'S ALL FACT!!!! Obama's not a U.S. Citizen, so, in the Constitution, it says a person must be a "Natural Born Citizen", and Obama wasn't, so he can't run for President!!!!
vladimir1944 3 years ago
Do you really think that the FBI, CIA, and secret service would allow someone to run for president if they were not born in the US as required by the Constitution? Did you not think long enough to put that together? You my friend are either spreading malicious hate or you're suffering from ignorance and/or stupidity of the worst kind.
noreast77 3 years ago
Well It looks like all those "BIG AGENCIES" are not doing their job, since they found Obamas' aunt from Kenya living in America for free and illegally.
ANGELAYESIKA 3 years ago
Of COURSE Obama's a u.s. citizen. I KNOW. You're right.
Ecksntrick8 3 years ago
"obamas views are socialist. my grandpa fought against socialisim and you think he wants to vote for it! wow born in kenya. obama has NO experience. "NOBAMA"!
McCain/Palin '08
worldsbestsoldier 3 years ago 2
"Socialism" you mean like the police and fire department? or maybe the public school system? Or public works? Maybe an extreme YEY OR NEY position isn't the best here but a more specific "here is works, here is doesn't" policy? Or are we going to repeat the Regen mantra of red fear while the rest of the world passes us by with logical, practical, pro-social policy where appropriate? We have one of the worst infant mortality rates and lowest life spans as a country. Thats not from socialism
HawaiiArt 3 years ago
"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."
- Norman Thomas, U.S. Socialist Party presidential candidate 1940, 1944 and 1948
Obama is a MARXIST! Don't be fooled!
audioambrosia 3 years ago 2