I can tell you from personal experience.I purchased a 16 year retired WP mare and I was told she had to have all four feet shoed.So as I got her home I had farrier remove them and yes she was sore in the beginning but over time that changed she now has rock hard feet that an 24/7 turnout.I have done long distance trail riding and she does great
A lot of people I know keep there horse in natural surroundings like this, and it develops a better sure-footedness for the horse. Makes an excellent home for full time trail horses. Good work. :)
Those are some beautiful horses, skeeter! (I'm a little partial to bays, though) They all, look very healthy and happy. Their hooves are in great shape and I bet that terrain gives them good excercise. Thanks for sharing this.
Hmmm ....the horses are enjoying their surroundsand getting great exercise for their bodies, mind and feet., I was just wondering if it ever rains there. I have seen some paddocks like this but in the rain the erosion is massive. I try to walk my horse up the ashphalt when I can.
gr8 book! read yesterday. why does the one horse have the eye scarf on? I thought about all the folks around here who put those on their pastured horses & thought to myself I guess Joe wouldn't be putting that on his horses if he doesn't use blankets or leggings. Thanks for all you're doing!
@cowboyswami The horse is probably annoyed or very ill at ease with flies or sand or something, and so putting an eyescarf would be (perhaps, I don't know, I'm only supposing) less annoying.
@stephnello thanks - that's what folks use it for - I guess I thought it may be more natural to let them live as they do in the wild - without eye scarves - of course each horse had different needs....
@cowboyswami Yeah, some horses get so annoyed they could get hurt when trying to keep these insects away, or might get problems with their eyes, which must be quite more annoying than this eyescarf (by the way, I didn't know it was called so in English, thanks for the vocabulary, though I'm not sure I'll need it for the exams but anyway thanks!). My horse for example isn't really surrounded by flies in pasture in summer while two of the three mares with him get eye-infections...
@cowboyswami Well I'm not even sure we say "un bonnet", ah I know, in French we say "Flymask", I think it's a brand originally but now it's turned to a common noun, quiqcker to say than "bonnet de protection contre les mouches", and in French we usually like using English terms.
@stephnello I just googled the 'eye mask' and it came up with Fly Mask as the terminology here in USA - makes sense as that is what it is for. We used to use the word bonnet to mean a lady's hat—im not sure it is used these days at all. Words are interesting.
@cowboyswami In French we simply say Fly mask or "masque" but the latter is also a "masque" for Hallowxeen or Carnaval. It's interesting 'cause in dictionaries they barely give any correct word for xords concerning horses and horse-riding, and I don't know any English-speaking fan of horses to talk with!
The deception is.......these horses are Idle. They pic and choose their steps at their own speed. Pain will govern the amount of travelling they do.
Add the weight of a rider and tack.
Move cattle for 6 hours a day for 3 days on this stuff and your horse is finished.
If Nature had it's way.......take down the fence and kick there butts into the hills so they can pick and choose the ground to walk on. They have no choice in your creation. Do they? Show us after a week of rain. Slippp
that kind of land isnt good for horses they lean side ways like cuz the ground and the dont have any green grass or a pond or any thing i mean not to be rude i would put them in a better place then that tho but beautiful horses :]
This is cuute!! We try so hard to avoid all possible hazards, but when we let them be horses they can keep themselves safe even in this wichy for most people would be seen as unsafe :D i lovee it :)
excuse you but if you notice horses have been barefoot in the wild and theses horses feet have the healthiest hooves my horse is barefoot and i go on trails a lot and my farrier says my horses feet is as hard as a rock broke one of his tools
And shoes cut off the blood circulation in the hoof. Prove me wrong but my uncle is a Vet and I have gone to many trips to do heat scans on horses legs. The lower part (knee down) Had NO heat or blood circulation, knee and up had the regular flow. the farrier took the shoe off and we did the test again. The leg had its normal blood flow all through the leg.
I can't believe I stumbled across this, very accidentally. I just finished your book. I cried in public :P
Unfortunately I don't have a horse to practice with, so I've substituted that missing something with all the knowledge I can find. People around here aren't too keen about sharing practical knowledge, unless they're being paid. But your book will be on the shelf, and I can pull it out when I need it.
They are all of those! They'll soon be moving to a hilly pasture in Tennessee with lots of grasses...all tested to match basically what we spread around the current pasture :)
@skeetercamp That's everything I dream of for my horse... Unfortunately I cannot, now, offer him such a perfect life, but as soon as possible he will live in a herd of horses in big pastures with various grounds, and then I will be able to say he's the happiest of all... But lots of people actually still think that "fers" (I'm French and I forgot the word for it) are necessary, I was much criticized when we let my horse "barefoot", but today he seems far more at ease on his feet than before...
@skeetercamp That's everything I dream of for my horse... Unfortunately I cannot, now, offer him such a perfect life, but as soon as possible he will live in a herd of horses in big pastures with various grounds, and then I will be able to say he's the happiest of all... But lots of people actually still think that "fers" (I'm French and I forgot the word for it) are necessary, I was much criticized when we let my horse "barefoot", but today he seems far more at ease on his feet than before.
That's amazing :) Here in the UK in certain areas it is a real worry. I guess your horses may be more immune to it - being in such conditions since birth may have a large part to play as far as their resistance to the sand goes.
Horses out in the wilderness eat from the ground, no feeders around, and they do not have sand colic. My off-the-track Thoroughbred now is barefoot and has no feeder at all, and, of course, is turned out 24/7, even in the Michigan winter. If you treat your horse like a horse and not like a domesticated pet, he will stay healthy and happy.
@hamushka This is what wild horses are used to, just because they are domesticated doesnt mean that they cant handle it, they know what to eat and what not to eat.
Wow. I was feeling all discouraged about the land I bought--- it looks just like that place! Now I feel better- looking forward to the fencing work. Thanks, Joe.
Great video! My horse has to have elevated shoes to correct something in his front legs, but his back feet are barefoot, so i suppose we are half natural! :-P
(The palomino in this looks alot like my boy! :-D)
i love ur feet lol :) they look AWESOME!! i love ur pasture too. its the ideal place for a horse to live. i would love to have a place like urs!! read ur book and LOVE IT!! lol anyways u have helped me soo much with our relationship!! (mine and my horse) THANK YOU!!!
i love that pasture i would luuv to get my horse out ther its more like the beautifulest passture i think that they were actually just trying to show there wasnt much to graze on but thats kinda stupid if ya think that it would be hard for them to eat because theres hay everywhere!!!
I think he was just saying there wasn't much to graze on.. OBVIOUSLY not noticing that there is HAY all over the place. gosh. I would LOVE to have my horses in that pasture. Nothing wrong with it.
Your horses feet look beautiful! It reminds me of when the farrier just does a trim! Wow! I love how the palamino seems to be telling the others what to do! lol!
Thanks for the video, I'll post into our Italian barefoot forum. I see too an interesting talk about shoes/barefoot... something I know so well. ;-)
I don't believe that ALL horses can avoid a hoof protection, simply I'm deeply convinced that ALL can avoid nailed metal shoes, today nailed shoe is "an evil that your horse can avoid".
Im not saying that everyone should take off there horses shooes right now, or somthing. If you dont want to or feel you caint take off there shoes than thats fine. I just like to try and educat people and let them know that it can be done in most casses. Haveing shoes on your horse dosent make you eny less of a freind/owener. You still love your horse as mush as enyone ells. :D
I think what a lot of folks who give up on barefoot don't understand is that the horse needs transition time to build a calloused sole. They also need CORRECT trimming to set them up with the proper mechanics:heel first landing, good breakover with 'mustang roll', and balanced collateral groove depth.
Yes, and his honesty about his journey from Farrier to Natural Trimmer makes his information so valuable...hopefully other Farriers will have an open mind!
I have found that it's not so much the farriers that won't or can't trim as the owner requests, but the owner themselves not wanting to address whole-horse management. Hooves are just one facet--by your video, I think I'm preaching to the choir, though! LOL You have a great set-up! :-)
kewl. I used to keep my horses in an enclosure like that when rescued mustangs off of the BLM. but now we dont. becuase we dont have any! haha! anyway thats kewl video
Fantastic vids and the best way to keep horses i totally agree. The pasture is great for barefoot natural horses as it helps prevent mud fever and gives them a more natural habitat as they would in the wild keeping their feet as natural and healthy as possible.
Hey guys... don't take ours or anyone's word for any of this... but if you do the research you will discover that the wild horse of the ice age, today's high performance horses, and today's wild mustang are all anotomically, physiolgically, and pschologically exactly alike and the requirements for health, longevity, and happiness are the same. Millions of years of genetics cannot be changed by a few generations of breeding.
maybe your right, maybe not, but horses with bad hooves simply died in the ice-age/wild horses. I know many horses being happy without shoes and many horses which would die because of there bad hooves if they would live like wild horses do. It's just like that, you can't say what's right for all horses, you have to decide individually every time.
Bare-foot is for every horse, but not for every owner. Its just that. Owner's dont want to give their horses the time off that it takes for their hooves to grow correctly. "Bad hooves" are caused by artificial conditions set by people/owners. Horses have learned to live in those conditions, thats why owners think there horses are ok. And shoes just cover up the problems, not fix them.
Barefoot is *NOT* for every horse. My horse has very soft feet and thin soles. Even with "time off", venice turpentine, etc., he would be in constant pain from bruises he would get on his soles as a result from going barefoot. Both our farrier AND our vet have told us this. ;) Thanks.
Well it can take 2 or more years in those casses. But, its a matter of developing the sole calus, wich can take a loooong time for a horse with a thin sole. And most vets and ferriers dont belive that bare-foot trimming exsists. I talked to one the other day, it really suprised me how little some ferriers know about a horses hoove without a shoe. The trimming is totaly different, and some just dont belive that.
Of course your farrier will tell you that. What we've been telling farriers is that they can make as much money so long as they are skilled in the wild horse trim. Turpentine? That will do the hoof serious harm. Read "The Soul of a Horse"or just look up the resources and I bet you'll find a different answer for your horse.
Tell that to my horse who instantly goes 4 leg lame without shoes on. He has so little sole that he could not survive with out shoes AND pads and no abbount of corrective trimming can help.
Barefoot or no is dependant on the horse.
If they can stay sound barefoot by all means keep em off. But you can't say its cruel to keep a horse sound!
Thats because shoes cut off the circulation for the horses blood stream and later on they can barely feel anything because of the cut off! Thats why my horse is kept barefoot!
Yeah because putting a nail in unfeeling hoof can do that. The frog can still tough the ground and act as a cussion. The frog cirgulates blood not the hoof wall. You're telling me that If I grew out MY nails and put something on them that i would actomatically not feel my fingers? NO so get off your high horse. And be nutural. It's dependant on the horse. Why else would a VET sent you to a farrier? The vet wouldn't get any money from what the farrier does. So don't say it's just for money.
It's true though I'm not going to fight anymore that is what i HEARD!! And i didn't say it was for money! God sometimes people are so rude, including you!
Thin soles will change with a proper trim, proper diet and proper management. Soles change very quickly in response to these external situations. A horse is not stuck with the amount or type of sole he might have at any given moment. That is a farrier and vet fallacy. Until you use a trimmer who also knows this, you won't see it happen - but it can!
Yes and we have done all the corrective trimming possible and my horse has only about a cm of sole. I have the x-rays to prove it. One of my horses is barefoot because he can be and the other has shoes and pads because he NEEDS them. My farrier knows his stuff and has many horses that go bare even some of his own are.
Your vet or farrier saying the soles are thin is like somebody saying your stomach is full or your nails are long or your hair is dirty. It is all subject to change - it is not set in stone. People who shoe don't see soles get thicker b/c they say "OH NO, must shoe," and shoeing prevents feet from functioning properly so they can grow sole and get concavity. You have to stick with barefoot to see it. Check the videos I uploaded today - they all had thin soles.
We put pads on the reduce cuncussion to the wall and increase pressure on the sole and frog to build it up. And just because something works for SOME does not mean it's good for ALL! If nature intended animals to be barefoot what the heck are we doing wearing shoes? And why in hell do thoes wimps get the corrective shoes?! They just need to grow some more foot! yeah. right
You might Google "peripheral loading" to learn about shoes and pads. As for humans wearing shoes, we walk on a fleshy part of our body that has no fur or specialized structures for protection. Horses don't walk on a fleshy part of their body; they walk on specialized hardened structures called hooves.
The point i want to get across is this: horses are no longer needed nor made to be nature. They are bred to be ridden, and sometimes take things that may not be in nature. Naked is not always best, neither is barefoot. I think horses should be kept as natural as possible, but to say they should be naked religiously and having a tone in your video about how people who use shoes are bad.
My horse is barefoot, and i actually jump and event him. I had shoes on him while i was training him because the extra weight he was carrying on his front end was causing flaring on his front hooves. now that he knows how to carry himself balanced and off the forehand he does not need shoes.
All I am saying is barefoot is not always possible. Yes metal does absorb concussion, and in many cases, shoing is what needs to be done to make the horse sound. Founder is a big one. horses naturally founder, and shoing speeds up the recovery process greatly.
Nutso? Not so. The only horse in the pasture with a fly mask is a paint with one blue eye, white around it that is very easily sunburned. In order to avoid him getting skin cancer or going blind in that eye, he has a mask on during the hottest part of the year. Your bet is wrong: we vaccinate based upon testing for need or if virus is rampant in our area. But, thanks for watching!
A fly mask makes sense, but horses do have thier own "fly mask". It's their mane and forelock. What makes sense about nailing a chunk of metal to the bottom of a horse's foot? Think about it. Does metal absorb or conduct concussion? Would you wear metal soled shoes? Of course not. The horse survived for thousands of years barefoot before us humans started nailing metal to their feet. There's no need to reinvent the wheel here.
That is just like they would live in in the wild, good job! They look so happy, what is th e Paint's name? He looks beautiful!
reininghorses57 1 month ago
I can tell you from personal experience.I purchased a 16 year retired WP mare and I was told she had to have all four feet shoed.So as I got her home I had farrier remove them and yes she was sore in the beginning but over time that changed she now has rock hard feet that an 24/7 turnout.I have done long distance trail riding and she does great
parrot2me 3 months ago
A lot of people I know keep there horse in natural surroundings like this, and it develops a better sure-footedness for the horse. Makes an excellent home for full time trail horses. Good work. :)
dwehr1223 5 months ago
Amazing pasture, looks great for the horses! I wouldn't want to be the one to have to pick the manure though! :P
lindseyH101 5 months ago
Horses do so much better barefoot! they are happier, healtier, and YES, you can show them with barefoot, they might even win!!
reininghorses57 6 months ago
this was so touching and a beautifull paddock
dappledbaybeauty 10 months ago
Joe: I am reading your book and just found you here: which one is Cash? And Skeeter?
Have you moved to Tennessee yet?
FreelanceFreeman 11 months ago
Joe: I just read your book: which one is Cash? And Skeeter?
FreelanceFreeman 11 months ago
Those are some beautiful horses, skeeter! (I'm a little partial to bays, though) They all, look very healthy and happy. Their hooves are in great shape and I bet that terrain gives them good excercise. Thanks for sharing this.
cowgirlmoon 1 year ago
aw this is awesome
elinheartstristin 1 year ago
yeaa not the best place but the horses look happy and calm so if they're happy im happy lol
iloveaseed 1 year ago
Their feet look fabulous! Great job.
Babette805 1 year ago
Hmmm ....the horses are enjoying their surroundsand getting great exercise for their bodies, mind and feet., I was just wondering if it ever rains there. I have seen some paddocks like this but in the rain the erosion is massive. I try to walk my horse up the ashphalt when I can.
tanya2horses 1 year ago
gr8 book! read yesterday. why does the one horse have the eye scarf on? I thought about all the folks around here who put those on their pastured horses & thought to myself I guess Joe wouldn't be putting that on his horses if he doesn't use blankets or leggings. Thanks for all you're doing!
cowboyswami 1 year ago
@cowboyswami The horse is probably annoyed or very ill at ease with flies or sand or something, and so putting an eyescarf would be (perhaps, I don't know, I'm only supposing) less annoying.
stephnello 1 year ago
@stephnello thanks - that's what folks use it for - I guess I thought it may be more natural to let them live as they do in the wild - without eye scarves - of course each horse had different needs....
cowboyswami 1 year ago
@cowboyswami Yeah, some horses get so annoyed they could get hurt when trying to keep these insects away, or might get problems with their eyes, which must be quite more annoying than this eyescarf (by the way, I didn't know it was called so in English, thanks for the vocabulary, though I'm not sure I'll need it for the exams but anyway thanks!). My horse for example isn't really surrounded by flies in pasture in summer while two of the three mares with him get eye-infections...
stephnello 1 year ago
@stephnello im not sure if eye scarf is the technical term.. :)
cowboyswami 1 year ago
@cowboyswami Well I'm not even sure we say "un bonnet", ah I know, in French we say "Flymask", I think it's a brand originally but now it's turned to a common noun, quiqcker to say than "bonnet de protection contre les mouches", and in French we usually like using English terms.
stephnello 1 year ago
@stephnello I just googled the 'eye mask' and it came up with Fly Mask as the terminology here in USA - makes sense as that is what it is for. We used to use the word bonnet to mean a lady's hat—im not sure it is used these days at all. Words are interesting.
cowboyswami 1 year ago
@cowboyswami In French we simply say Fly mask or "masque" but the latter is also a "masque" for Hallowxeen or Carnaval. It's interesting 'cause in dictionaries they barely give any correct word for xords concerning horses and horse-riding, and I don't know any English-speaking fan of horses to talk with!
stephnello 1 year ago
THATS EXACTLY HOW I WANT ALLLLLLL ANIMALS THAT HAVE OWNERS TO LIVE
FREE
HAPPY
NOT LOCKED UP
STARVED
SICK
IN DYING HELP
SO I LOVE THAT PLACE AND THE OWNERS ,BLOODY WELL DONE
newmoonjacobpaul 1 year ago
That is great... I wish we could have something like that for our horses as well! :)
Elerian17 1 year ago
hey these horses resemble brittaina louise taylor!!!
MrShitstained 1 year ago
The deception is.......these horses are Idle. They pic and choose their steps at their own speed. Pain will govern the amount of travelling they do.
Add the weight of a rider and tack.
Move cattle for 6 hours a day for 3 days on this stuff and your horse is finished.
If Nature had it's way.......take down the fence and kick there butts into the hills so they can pick and choose the ground to walk on. They have no choice in your creation. Do they? Show us after a week of rain. Slippp
semtech30 1 year ago
that kind of land isnt good for horses they lean side ways like cuz the ground and the dont have any green grass or a pond or any thing i mean not to be rude i would put them in a better place then that tho but beautiful horses :]
toontown1111 2 years ago
This is cuute!! We try so hard to avoid all possible hazards, but when we let them be horses they can keep themselves safe even in this wichy for most people would be seen as unsafe :D i lovee it :)
fcthecool 2 years ago
WOW they realy do flex!! not i know why you dont shoe your horses!!
autry2 2 years ago
excuse you but if you notice horses have been barefoot in the wild and theses horses feet have the healthiest hooves my horse is barefoot and i go on trails a lot and my farrier says my horses feet is as hard as a rock broke one of his tools
sk8erdevil5 2 years ago
And shoes cut off the blood circulation in the hoof. Prove me wrong but my uncle is a Vet and I have gone to many trips to do heat scans on horses legs. The lower part (knee down) Had NO heat or blood circulation, knee and up had the regular flow. the farrier took the shoe off and we did the test again. The leg had its normal blood flow all through the leg.
WhosgottheButton 2 years ago 9
thats sooo true
sk8erdevil5 2 years ago
Great video and a perfect way to demonstrate how we can improve the environment of our domestic horses.
horsedancer77 2 years ago
Awesome! I live in CA so hopefully we can rent a place with such an "ugly" landscape so my horse's feet can be just as pretty.
ArchDandy1134 2 years ago
That's pasture paradise! :) What healthy horses you have, and gorgeous feet! :)
hippitor 2 years ago
I can't believe I stumbled across this, very accidentally. I just finished your book. I cried in public :P
Unfortunately I don't have a horse to practice with, so I've substituted that missing something with all the knowledge I can find. People around here aren't too keen about sharing practical knowledge, unless they're being paid. But your book will be on the shelf, and I can pull it out when I need it.
Eregon111 2 years ago
That is not an ugly pasture, just a natural one in this area of the states ;-) ! Horses look totally HAPPY and RELAXED. GREAT.
FabulousBet 2 years ago
They are all of those! They'll soon be moving to a hilly pasture in Tennessee with lots of grasses...all tested to match basically what we spread around the current pasture :)
skeetercamp 2 years ago
@skeetercamp That's everything I dream of for my horse... Unfortunately I cannot, now, offer him such a perfect life, but as soon as possible he will live in a herd of horses in big pastures with various grounds, and then I will be able to say he's the happiest of all... But lots of people actually still think that "fers" (I'm French and I forgot the word for it) are necessary, I was much criticized when we let my horse "barefoot", but today he seems far more at ease on his feet than before...
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@skeetercamp That's everything I dream of for my horse... Unfortunately I cannot, now, offer him such a perfect life, but as soon as possible he will live in a herd of horses in big pastures with various grounds, and then I will be able to say he's the happiest of all... But lots of people actually still think that "fers" (I'm French and I forgot the word for it) are necessary, I was much criticized when we let my horse "barefoot", but today he seems far more at ease on his feet than before.
stephnello 1 year ago
wow !! The fear of sand collic would worry me ...
hamushka 2 years ago
Not one instance of sand colic in 3 years.
skeetercamp 2 years ago
That's amazing :) Here in the UK in certain areas it is a real worry. I guess your horses may be more immune to it - being in such conditions since birth may have a large part to play as far as their resistance to the sand goes.
hamushka 2 years ago
Horses out in the wilderness eat from the ground, no feeders around, and they do not have sand colic. My off-the-track Thoroughbred now is barefoot and has no feeder at all, and, of course, is turned out 24/7, even in the Michigan winter. If you treat your horse like a horse and not like a domesticated pet, he will stay healthy and happy.
FabulousBet 2 years ago 5
@hamushka This is what wild horses are used to, just because they are domesticated doesnt mean that they cant handle it, they know what to eat and what not to eat.
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Wow. I was feeling all discouraged about the land I bought--- it looks just like that place! Now I feel better- looking forward to the fencing work. Thanks, Joe.
vivaloriflamme 2 years ago
What does barefoot mean
Obsessedhorselover 2 years ago
No shoes :) living as nature intended
hamushka 2 years ago
i dunno there are a few ugly ass pastures in Oregon ^-^
HORSEZZZZZzzzzz96 2 years ago
my horse needs front shoes/pads cause her last place like abused her front feet, her backs were bare for while..recentaly shoed :D
perfectworld321 2 years ago
I have an arabian XD hes barefoot and has been his whole life
phunkyyall 2 years ago
interesting pasture lol :P Here in Ontario...just grass, some hills, more grass ;)
doglover2112 3 years ago
Fantastic! 5/5
DarkBay24 3 years ago
o_O my horse would go lame in that pasture
horsebackrider420 3 years ago
at 2:13 the creme horse is grumpy! It's cute.
albicat13 3 years ago
Great video! My horse has to have elevated shoes to correct something in his front legs, but his back feet are barefoot, so i suppose we are half natural! :-P
(The palomino in this looks alot like my boy! :-D)
BarebackRider13 3 years ago
i love ur feet lol :) they look AWESOME!! i love ur pasture too. its the ideal place for a horse to live. i would love to have a place like urs!! read ur book and LOVE IT!! lol anyways u have helped me soo much with our relationship!! (mine and my horse) THANK YOU!!!
depplover120 3 years ago
Ugliest pasture? Not. It is just wonderful, and my goal is to have one just like it.
SilverSandi06 3 years ago
I agree barefoot is better. My horses need their hooves panted so they aren't dry but it's all natural and they don't mind it at all.
BlazingAva 3 years ago
Nature didnt intend for them to have fly masks or electric fencing...or to be fed.... haha just poking fun, healthy lookin horses tho, good job!
LestatMonCopain 3 years ago
NICE! can we come live with you? ha ha ha... Ive brought in crushed rock into my horses paddock, its amazing how quickly they adjust.
JumpinHorses 3 years ago
horses can climb like crazy goats in a junk yard if properly cared for.
silifein 3 years ago
i love that pasture i would luuv to get my horse out ther its more like the beautifulest passture i think that they were actually just trying to show there wasnt much to graze on but thats kinda stupid if ya think that it would be hard for them to eat because theres hay everywhere!!!
natgeo2 3 years ago
Your horses have the hoofs every horse wishes they could have! Is it weird that I can name all of the horses in the video? :)
YellowPaintMare 3 years ago
I would love my horses to be in that pasture!
Oh man. :]
milksack309 3 years ago
Would you at least buy them dinner first?
dowling1981 3 years ago
of course??
haha.
ajourneytohealthy 3 years ago
Whats wrong with this pasture?
dowling1981 3 years ago
I think he was just saying there wasn't much to graze on.. OBVIOUSLY not noticing that there is HAY all over the place. gosh. I would LOVE to have my horses in that pasture. Nothing wrong with it.
ajourneytohealthy 3 years ago
Ugliest !!!!!!!! I keep sending this to every one as the most beautiful pasture ever
linustheferret 3 years ago
Dear Joe & Kathleen,
Your horses feet look beautiful! It reminds me of when the farrier just does a trim! Wow! I love how the palamino seems to be telling the others what to do! lol!
Thanks for the video!
Kathy in Michigan
ladysafina 3 years ago
Thanks for the video, I'll post into our Italian barefoot forum. I see too an interesting talk about shoes/barefoot... something I know so well. ;-)
I don't believe that ALL horses can avoid a hoof protection, simply I'm deeply convinced that ALL can avoid nailed metal shoes, today nailed shoe is "an evil that your horse can avoid".
alexbrollo 3 years ago
Im not saying that everyone should take off there horses shooes right now, or somthing. If you dont want to or feel you caint take off there shoes than thats fine. I just like to try and educat people and let them know that it can be done in most casses. Haveing shoes on your horse dosent make you eny less of a freind/owener. You still love your horse as mush as enyone ells. :D
XArabHunterX 3 years ago
Man, I bet your horses have some great hooves!
XArabHunterX 3 years ago
smart place for horses, thanks for sharing!
stinahumana 3 years ago
I think what a lot of folks who give up on barefoot don't understand is that the horse needs transition time to build a calloused sole. They also need CORRECT trimming to set them up with the proper mechanics:heel first landing, good breakover with 'mustang roll', and balanced collateral groove depth.
bullw 4 years ago 4
You must be a Pete Ramey follower:)
skeetercamp 4 years ago
His Under The Horse dvd's helped me understand a lot I was missing since learning about barefoot since 2001. :-)
bullw 4 years ago
Yes, and his honesty about his journey from Farrier to Natural Trimmer makes his information so valuable...hopefully other Farriers will have an open mind!
skeetercamp 4 years ago
I have found that it's not so much the farriers that won't or can't trim as the owner requests, but the owner themselves not wanting to address whole-horse management. Hooves are just one facet--by your video, I think I'm preaching to the choir, though! LOL You have a great set-up! :-)
bullw 4 years ago
kewl. I used to keep my horses in an enclosure like that when rescued mustangs off of the BLM. but now we dont. becuase we dont have any! haha! anyway thats kewl video
horsecrazy11 4 years ago
Fantastic vids and the best way to keep horses i totally agree. The pasture is great for barefoot natural horses as it helps prevent mud fever and gives them a more natural habitat as they would in the wild keeping their feet as natural and healthy as possible.
baypony17 4 years ago 3
Hey guys... don't take ours or anyone's word for any of this... but if you do the research you will discover that the wild horse of the ice age, today's high performance horses, and today's wild mustang are all anotomically, physiolgically, and pschologically exactly alike and the requirements for health, longevity, and happiness are the same. Millions of years of genetics cannot be changed by a few generations of breeding.
skeetercamp 4 years ago
maybe your right, maybe not, but horses with bad hooves simply died in the ice-age/wild horses. I know many horses being happy without shoes and many horses which would die because of there bad hooves if they would live like wild horses do. It's just like that, you can't say what's right for all horses, you have to decide individually every time.
19ems86 3 years ago
Bare-foot is for every horse, but not for every owner. Its just that. Owner's dont want to give their horses the time off that it takes for their hooves to grow correctly. "Bad hooves" are caused by artificial conditions set by people/owners. Horses have learned to live in those conditions, thats why owners think there horses are ok. And shoes just cover up the problems, not fix them.
XArabHunterX 3 years ago 12
Barefoot is *NOT* for every horse. My horse has very soft feet and thin soles. Even with "time off", venice turpentine, etc., he would be in constant pain from bruises he would get on his soles as a result from going barefoot. Both our farrier AND our vet have told us this. ;) Thanks.
ShowJumpingGirl101 3 years ago
Well it can take 2 or more years in those casses. But, its a matter of developing the sole calus, wich can take a loooong time for a horse with a thin sole. And most vets and ferriers dont belive that bare-foot trimming exsists. I talked to one the other day, it really suprised me how little some ferriers know about a horses hoove without a shoe. The trimming is totaly different, and some just dont belive that.
XArabHunterX 3 years ago 2
Of course your farrier will tell you that. What we've been telling farriers is that they can make as much money so long as they are skilled in the wild horse trim. Turpentine? That will do the hoof serious harm. Read "The Soul of a Horse"or just look up the resources and I bet you'll find a different answer for your horse.
skeetercamp 3 years ago
Tell that to my horse who instantly goes 4 leg lame without shoes on. He has so little sole that he could not survive with out shoes AND pads and no abbount of corrective trimming can help.
Barefoot or no is dependant on the horse.
If they can stay sound barefoot by all means keep em off. But you can't say its cruel to keep a horse sound!
dylanXhorsieXtime 3 years ago
Thats because shoes cut off the circulation for the horses blood stream and later on they can barely feel anything because of the cut off! Thats why my horse is kept barefoot!
FriesianFeathers 3 years ago
Yeah because putting a nail in unfeeling hoof can do that. The frog can still tough the ground and act as a cussion. The frog cirgulates blood not the hoof wall. You're telling me that If I grew out MY nails and put something on them that i would actomatically not feel my fingers? NO so get off your high horse. And be nutural. It's dependant on the horse. Why else would a VET sent you to a farrier? The vet wouldn't get any money from what the farrier does. So don't say it's just for money.
dylanXhorsieXtime 3 years ago
It's true though I'm not going to fight anymore that is what i HEARD!! And i didn't say it was for money! God sometimes people are so rude, including you!
FriesianFeathers 3 years ago
Thin soles will change with a proper trim, proper diet and proper management. Soles change very quickly in response to these external situations. A horse is not stuck with the amount or type of sole he might have at any given moment. That is a farrier and vet fallacy. Until you use a trimmer who also knows this, you won't see it happen - but it can!
allisonacres 3 years ago
Yes and we have done all the corrective trimming possible and my horse has only about a cm of sole. I have the x-rays to prove it. One of my horses is barefoot because he can be and the other has shoes and pads because he NEEDS them. My farrier knows his stuff and has many horses that go bare even some of his own are.
dylanXhorsieXtime 3 years ago
Your vet or farrier saying the soles are thin is like somebody saying your stomach is full or your nails are long or your hair is dirty. It is all subject to change - it is not set in stone. People who shoe don't see soles get thicker b/c they say "OH NO, must shoe," and shoeing prevents feet from functioning properly so they can grow sole and get concavity. You have to stick with barefoot to see it. Check the videos I uploaded today - they all had thin soles.
allisonacres 3 years ago
We put pads on the reduce cuncussion to the wall and increase pressure on the sole and frog to build it up. And just because something works for SOME does not mean it's good for ALL! If nature intended animals to be barefoot what the heck are we doing wearing shoes? And why in hell do thoes wimps get the corrective shoes?! They just need to grow some more foot! yeah. right
dylanXhorsieXtime 3 years ago
You might Google "peripheral loading" to learn about shoes and pads. As for humans wearing shoes, we walk on a fleshy part of our body that has no fur or specialized structures for protection. Horses don't walk on a fleshy part of their body; they walk on specialized hardened structures called hooves.
allisonacres 3 years ago
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maybe Im reading way too much into it. But i know quite a few horses who would NOT be happy in a pasture, because of their breeding or personality.
we all love our horses, and try to do whats best for them. Something that works for yours may not for someone elses, and vice versa.
Catgirl356 4 years ago
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The point i want to get across is this: horses are no longer needed nor made to be nature. They are bred to be ridden, and sometimes take things that may not be in nature. Naked is not always best, neither is barefoot. I think horses should be kept as natural as possible, but to say they should be naked religiously and having a tone in your video about how people who use shoes are bad.
Catgirl356 4 years ago
Do your research on barfoot catgirl before you tell us we are wrong
aKaCuPiD 3 years ago
My horse is barefoot, and i actually jump and event him. I had shoes on him while i was training him because the extra weight he was carrying on his front end was causing flaring on his front hooves. now that he knows how to carry himself balanced and off the forehand he does not need shoes.
Catgirl356 4 years ago
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All I am saying is barefoot is not always possible. Yes metal does absorb concussion, and in many cases, shoing is what needs to be done to make the horse sound. Founder is a big one. horses naturally founder, and shoing speeds up the recovery process greatly.
Catgirl356 4 years ago
Nutso? Not so. The only horse in the pasture with a fly mask is a paint with one blue eye, white around it that is very easily sunburned. In order to avoid him getting skin cancer or going blind in that eye, he has a mask on during the hottest part of the year. Your bet is wrong: we vaccinate based upon testing for need or if virus is rampant in our area. But, thanks for watching!
skeetercamp 4 years ago
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hm. where can i find a horse that has a fly mask on it when its born? nutso.
fly mask is not intended by nature. i bet you get them vaccinated too. horses arent meant by nature to be vaccinated.
Catgirl356 4 years ago
A fly mask makes sense, but horses do have thier own "fly mask". It's their mane and forelock. What makes sense about nailing a chunk of metal to the bottom of a horse's foot? Think about it. Does metal absorb or conduct concussion? Would you wear metal soled shoes? Of course not. The horse survived for thousands of years barefoot before us humans started nailing metal to their feet. There's no need to reinvent the wheel here.
-A Barefoot and Sound Horse Rider
emr2e 4 years ago 4
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imnsho13 2 years ago
Beautiful!
blueguitargirl 4 years ago 3
The real HAPPY FEET! Nice!
grazripley 4 years ago 3