I'm doing an investigation into the effect of institutions on the portrayal of teenagers in the media and I'm using this text. I think the general public are very misguided and believe only children and teenagers engage in anti-social behaviour because the media is telling us this and the BBC for eg. intend for us to conform to their 'ready made opinions'. I think it's shocking how the BBC can amplify and distort reality so much when they have a remit to work to enforced by the Government.
chavs hate everyone! i cant even go out of my house without getting harrased by local kids coz of how i dressed and when ya go to the cops they dont care the cops never do care.
Whats actually really frightening is that Barnardos has missed the point entirely. Adults might say they would "shoot em", but there aren't any gangs of feral adults actually killing people. The same cannot be said about gangs of feral teenagers.
MISSED THE POINT. I won't be supporting Barnardos because of this advert.
I think it is a testament of young people everywhere that there is not more crime, considering the shit they have to deal with from their supposed 'betters' and elders.
What is interesting is that in a recent survey over 65% of secondary school children would have some sort of physical punisment brought back. This is obviously because there are a majority of decent kids that want to get on.These are prevented by the chavs,scroats or what ever we want to call them getting away with all sorts at school and on the streets while the authorities have little or no power to do anything.The good kids need protection from the violent chavs aswell as the adults.
the chavs get what they deserve. the hunters should kill all the gang leaders too. the government dont do any thing. i think human rights are lost when you commit a crime. note how the kids arnt killing someone or attacking firemen or a house but innocent. what right do we have to put up with this sort of stuff as law abiding citizens and they have the right to do it. Britan has gone to the fucking dogs!
Conscription; it's the key to this culture of thuggish behaviour, not the hug a hoodie tosh or make them feel wanted... They need the discipline that they may well not be getting at home (if they are then the military will harbour them.)
Every word in this advert was right about alot of the little shits attacking innocent people more of what happens in this advert would be useful for them
Maybe conscription is the answer. I don't know. Talk of AK47s, etc, is sociopathic - but asking that we pity young people is a bit much. They're scary because they're violent, have no conscience and no respect - they certainly don't deserve ours.
If a tour in the military were to give them some discipline, maybe it's time to start considering it.
Note add. I'm not condemning all I'll say kids because that makes it a wider age spectrum, its the sort that attack in groups because they can't fight for a good reason on a one on one. you (kids) want respect earn it.
FUCK OFF all that don't like this comment. Give me an AK47 that'll sort the chavey scum. Lets get our country back. Stick them in the army. Human right's Fucking Earn It..
And there's me thinking "at last people taking some scum out" and the ad's arguing against it! The ad is, of course the best way to deal with these little shits. Society's gone bad because no one does anything, now we have PC social worker types saying we should be nice to these little bastards. Well, look where that's got us. Respectable people being kicked to death outside their own homes by people that are hardly human. No, guns and revenge are the answer. Look out fuckers...
Anyone with a gun is a potential killer. Don't like that? Don't own a gun. I mean this video was set in an urban area for fucks sake. How the hell can the rural gun lobby moan about that?
How do you know the people in the video aren't criminals or such?
You know, the fact these words are real is kind of a damming indictment of both how badly the government has failed to stop youth crime and how feral the adult population can be when pushed.
Is it illegal to shoot chavs? lol would never have guessed.
I think people wouldn't say such horrific things if these *so called* children weren't thugs.
Anyone find it distressing that they made an advert based on the comments of people. The internet is a veil where people say things they wouldn't normally say. How often to they monitor us? Do they profile us on our internet characteristics...because if soo that bullshit
you guys are stupid. "i own a gun, i wont shoot them" - there not trying to say that morons! they were presenting the fact that every quote was what people had written on a forum, and if people acted apon what they wrote, that would be what it was like. Barnandos is an amazing charity and this advert deserves credit.
The fact remains they insulted a group of people. When challenged they stuck up the two fingers at us.
If I do something and later find out I insulted somebody by doing it, then I hope I am big enough to appologise and try to put it right. Obviously they dont give a damn.
They might have been people with illegally owned weapons. Those shotguns didn't look like the normal sort farmers use. More like combat ones the police have.
it looked like a suburban area to me like surrey or suffolfk and sussex you know the home counties and so on people in those parts are less tolorant lol .
The fact remains, a selection of the general public were offended by the video and Barnardos wouldnt respond to their requests so that section of the public will no longer support the charity. In fact I now go out of my way to discourage others from supporting them. I wonder who will be the next group to be shunned by them? Perhaps the disabled or the Asian community or just perhaps the weird types that feel the need to swear in print???
Does this advert even look like it's in a fucking rural area?
I mean Micheal Ryan owned his AK-47 legally and look what he did in an urban area. Legal gun owners are all potential killers in the same way illegal gun owners are.
THIS VIDEO IS NOT SAYING ALL GUN OWNERS ARE CHILD KILLERS!
For fucks sake, the way you've all come out and made such retarded comments on this video has shown you in a much worse light than this video ever could.
You're right nothing retarded about defending a minority accept when they're not being attacked. The advert wasn't using them as a stereotype or anything, its the point of the advert that matters, they were most likely hunters of animals, which translates into the message of the adverts (adults HUNTING animals who are children in this case)
It does not matter how you twist or turn how you think people see the video. It upset thousands of people and good old Barnardos said tough go tell someone who gives a rats arse.
The problem is that there are a large number of kids who are far worse in character than those portrayed in the above commercial. The lack respect, discipline and at most extreme disregard for their own personal safety and future well being as well as others prompts the following question. Why should the law enforcement agencies in the UK have to waste tax payers money to babysit and monitor these particular individuals. Of course i dont condone violence but strict and harsher methods are needed
I'm not donating to banardos ever again, that is safe to say. Next time i will give my money to somethign worth while like Oxfam prehaps? Not this discriminating crap. Wait until you or your child gets bullied or mugged by one of those kids, i have not been raised in ideal circumstances, but i always knew when i was upsetting/hurting someone and would never resort to that to help myself.
I recently got a reply saying this was an attack on the comments.... so why did they need to show this. I was at a clay bird shoot last sunday and some of the shooters were pelted with eggs just because we were shooting. It scared me, never mind the others. Truth is, how many people with gun licences that enable you to have a shotgun are going to use it to do anything other than shoot clays and birds (when in season)???? answer me that!
when i heard about this controversy i thought its like the shooting community to take offense, but after seeing this if i didnt know better i would have thought it to be an animal rights video, campaigning against shooting, it seems downright malicious
Whats this,delieverence?These bloody charity organisations should be saving their money and spending wisely,instead of churning out crap like this.Whilst I'm a charitable person,I don't believe in this,as this is an insult to the rural and shooting fraternities of the UK.I want a showdown with these 'lovies' soon,as I'll give it to them,with both barrels.
Like everyone that has posted comments about this film i feel that Bernardo's portrays the shooting and hunting community as some sort of child killers.I have a young son that i,m trying to show a untainted aspect of shooting and hunting to him and feel that this sort of rubbish will just fuel the anti shooting and hunting people.I think that someone at Bernardo's needs to think very long and hard about what they have done and apologize .
What the hell Barnardo's were thinking when they came up with this one, I really do not know. I have been a legal gun owner for 35 years and am sick and tired of antis and gun bashers.
If this video had been made with such a reference to any other group of UK citizens someone would probably be answering a hate incitement case now.
Well done Barnado's, another supporter lost for ever!
This advert was aimed at the comments about children being feral animals that need to be hunted down and shot.
The majority of people I think understand that it's an attack on those comments and not those with guns. I thought the messge was quite clear. Maybe a lot of gun owners are a little paranoid and sensitive.
i dont think i need to really say anymore. everything im thinking has been said. next time im asked if i could spare a few quid for a good cause....i'l go to the next charity.
demonisation of chilren... what about the fukin demonisation of legal gun owners who are now being persecuted by a charity who support human rights... human rights.. some hope
I used to really support barnardos but now I refuse to support them,.. until they appologise on the news for this slander and rubbish!!!
This will only further myths about the hunting community. Barnados clearly had the arrogance to think that they could use hunting as a medium for their message and get away with it. If they had used another minority group then their would be general uproar. They shall not be getting anymore of my money.
As another viewer said, the only people who are being 'demonised' are the hunting and rural community. This in no way, shape or form portrays the current problems in terms of cruelty to chrildren! I am also am a member of BASC and am completely confused, annoyed and upset by this video. I personaly feel a formal apology, by Banardos, should be made to all those in the concerning community as im sure most people on here will agree with.
Being brought up in 'the field', I was always told when looking at beaters and shooters who work their dogs you'll always get good ones, one's that need a bit more work and one's which haven't been given any training at all. The way a dog works shows how well it's been handled and trained. There is no difference when it comes to young people. Like dogs, some look terrifying, but are well mannered and trained and some look soft and adorable, but are just complete psychos. Now you do the math!
Banardos have made a big mistake here. I am a media professional, my foster sister came from a Banardos home over 30 years ago, i have a teenager and i'm a keen shot. I see this film from all sides. Banardos have taken sound bites/text from a range of media and edited it into something that is portraying the hunting community as vigilante. It would have been much more powerful if these words had been spoken by a cross section of the public - this is where these opinions come from.
Barnardo's you stupid stupid people. The only people 'demonised' in this film are are a huge rural comunity in the UK that are becoming more and more commonly victims of 'social exclusion'. I was alerted to this video after reading BASC and it being discussed in my college. I am genuinely offended.
I am a keen young shooter and heard about your video through the BASC (British Association for Shooting and Conservation) magazine and after watching your video am left utterly baffled at how you can compare decent respectable people like myself, to child killers. We don't drive around the countryside, killing everything in our path, and calling our quarry "vermin" and "parasites" We shoot to eat, or wear/use fur, and have the utmost respect for our "prey". Don't demonise respectable people!
Responsible hunters like myself only shoot for food which is a good reason to shoot. Also those certain qutes from the film sounded as if they had been taken from insnae child haters/abusers. SO you should have taken action against them to stop them attempting to hurt kids. I was offended by this film and I hope it isnt broadcasted on TV as it wiil give the public a bad view of hunters like me
. I was offended by how it had portrayed hunters going out to shoot children. The way one of the hunters said"Letskill those vermin" upset me. Its sounds as if those hunters are just going out to kill children for no appareant reason.
I am a young shooter who lives in the city and am disgusted by what i see here. this quite obviously oversteps the line of even imagination, i would quite like for you to find an example of this happening, being planned and put into action in real life. You can make videos about things which actually happen, but not those which you think would be terrible if they did happen. I hope you feel ashamed of yourselves that you spent money on this instead of 'helping the children'
Ridiculous! Barnardos may think they're doing good by bringing to light the 'plight of children' or whatever they may call it. Yes there are children in trouble, yes it should be stopped. The comments referred to in the advert...people don't say that about children in general. NED's, chavs,or whatever you may call them...they do need sorting out and in no soft manner! Barnardos also managed to offend the entire British shooting/hunting community with this advert. Well done townies!
I find it disturbing that a CHILDRENS CHARITY produces a advert that explains at the start that NO CHILD SHOULD WATCH THIS. ponder that for a moment then try to wake up
It's not always someone's fault if a child is acting badly. You can't lump it into (a) it's the parents' faults and (b) it's the children's faults. Things aren't that black and white. Sometimes it's the fault of the parents, sometimes it's other parts of society, sometimes it's just the child was bad to begin with and didn't have a chance. You can't always pin the blame on someone. You can just try to help the children who need the help.
The New Labour oligarchs have created a culture where no-one is willing to accept responsibility for anything, everything is always someone else's fault.
Combine this with a purely vocational educational system and you have a culture where children live in a permanent state of boredom.
I'd be interested in knowing how Barnardos responded to the Tory announcement that they wish to create 'work camps' for the young unemployed, there has been little public discussion of that.
"purely vocational educational system?" id have to disagree, you do know statistically its harder to get an apprenticeship than it is to get into Cambridge , i mean its practically unheard of to not go to university as well
Very few children of the working poor will go to university.
State schools do not teach children to learn, they simply make them memorise what they need to pass exams to get to the next level.
Why is no-one willing to accept that the reason our society is falling apart is because consumerism has stripped us of our social responsibility and turned us into brainless buying machines.
Its the advertising executives that we should be shooting in the streets not the kids.
OMG this really carries a strong message. it is just disturbing! people often post very offensive and stupid things on the internet, that they might not say in public, but it reveals an aspect of their character that is very true. it is these attitudes that allow attrocities to occur, the first step to genocide etc is the conviction that the enemy is 'vermon' (eg the holocost) and i can't believe people in the uk slipping into this mess with their own chidren. gand violence is bad, this is worse
this is sooo inappropriate and a bad way to get a message across. it is teenagers over 13 who are going to be influenced by things like this, this only feeds desires to get involved with gang wars et... these teens are thr ones being killed by gunss and knives by other yong adults or teenagers. Barnados need to remove this add i am sure anny parent would not agree to this type of advertising. there are more creative and less damaging ways to get a message across.
Sorry,but as a parent of a teenage boy I support this advert wholeheartedly.Please credit our children with some sense.I accept that there are children out there who run in gangs and get in trouble,but the teenagers I meet every day are respectful and trustworthy.I hate the idea of people judging or fearing my son and his friends.Making every kid feel looked down upon or even hated will lead to far more problems.If they are already found guilty,why shouldn't they commit the crime?
There are loads of shit children out there, but the vast majority are good people. And the shits often grow out of it, and those that don't will likely end up in prison anyway. Some of the anti-youth rubbish printed on Teletext and BBC 606 beggars belief.
I don't condone foxhunting or child killing but the fact of the matter is kids fall into two categories. One category is the child who is well behaved, gives respect to others and has manners. The other is the child who runs around, is a general annoyance, commits acts of vandalism and does not give a stuff for the consequences of their actions. It is the second category that riles the public and makes them consider what actions to take against them.
"The fact of the matter is kids fall into two catagories."
What on earth are you talking about? Children are people and are not two dimensional beings who can be neatly slotted into "good" and "bad" catagories.
What about a 16 year old kid who does well at school but once in a blue moon gets drunk and graffiti's a wall? S/he could still be a doctor, a lawyer, or whatever would make it into your esteemed first catagory should you have one for adults. Where's your evidence of these catagories?
Who said kids fall into two categories, thats bloody insulting that is. Thats like saying adults fall into two categories slacking no good on the dole retards and upstanding citizens of the empire. Polar opposites cannot be used in society, ever, theres always a gray zone inbetween. Agreeing with you by the way.
Is this a joke or something? I know it's a dramatization but of what? Is there some effort in the U.K. to do away with kids? I don't get it. And if it's just satire it's not coming through real clear either.
The best thing we can do is see the point of the film. "These are real comments made by a general public, posted on UK websites." This sort of thinking, the people who do so needs to be stopped. The Children are at risk due to the way some think. CHILDREN. Lets not make this an issue about ourselves and take further attention away from the real issue...again for anybody who missed it,...THE CHILDREN.
I agree. We have people too scared to come out of their homes after dark, because of the rubbish printed in the papers. If we give our children a reputation to live up to instead of negative press, we could see a real change.I hope this doesn't become a debate on hunting instead of the real issue.
Fear is, and always has been, the biggest motivating force in UK politics. The fear of children, itself possibly a backlash against media hysteria about child abuse, is just another means to maintain control.
The largely phony 'War on terror' is another example. Only 9% of "terrorist" arrests have been shown to have even the barest foundation in fact, the rest are just men with beards having the wrong skin pigment at the wrong time.
Gosh. I hope this ad isn't pulled. Been hunting since I was 8. Hunters are not killers, there is a big difference and any true hunter that was taught properly knows the difference. Hunters, we should all see past the characters, the actors, the props and see the point of the ad. There is no JAMES BOND, SUPERMAN, or PRETTY WOMAN. These are all films, made to entertain, make a point, some times provacative, sometimes hopeful, etc...
Complaints were made to Barnardos by various shooting organisations and Barnardos issued a statement saying they did not intend to offend those involved in sporting shooting with the portrayal of hunters in their film. But Barnardos declined to add this statement to their own website or to remove the film, which continues to portray all shooters as potential killers.I and my shooting colleagues wil no longer support an organisation that portrays us all as a potential killers.
When complaints were made by numerous shooting organisations Barnardos issued a statement saying they did not intend to offend those involved in sporting shooting with the portrayal of hunters in their film. But Barnardos declined to add this statement to their own website or to remove the film, which continues to portray all shooters as potential killers. Therefore I and my shooting collegues will no longer support an organisation that portrays us as potential killers to the general public
It's about people treating children like wild animals-so it seems more than fair to make parallels with hunting, and please don't make the mistake in thinking that hunting is a town/country debate. I live in south Devon and understand the country.Whatever our views on hunting, this advert is about beating bigotry, please don't hijack it with your political views. There are many people sticking up for bloodsports, how many are sticking up for our teenagers?
This shite has been paid for by taxpayers. What the fuck are you doing wasting our money on this shit. Are all white men shotgun owning vigilante teams?...if only
This is an awesome video, terrible statements made by ignorant bigots shown to be what they are. I understand Barnardos is comign under pressure from the shootin globby and BASC in particular to pull thi sad - I encourage them to stand firm and not give in. Yes it is hard-hitting - but it's a hard hitting subject.
How is shooting teens with shotguns a hard hitting subject? When was the last time you heard of a child of any age being shot at with a shotgun. As a gun licence holder, I personally would never imagine using my guns for any other purpose than clay bird shoots and shoots in the season. I am visited regularly by police officers to check my guns and ammuntion are secure. This means that anyone abusing the trust of the BASC will be instantly punished. Do your homework.
God Damn it, forgive me if im wrong but you seem to be missing the point. The subject was never about guns or gun owners or anything about weaponry at ALL. The guns were used to grab your attention (which it obviously has) and then to promote a message, you realise the entire rthing is a metaphor?. I know it might not be the best way to get through to people but hell, shock tactics work.
The whole point of the advert is to make you realise the shocking opinions of the minority. It intends to shock, not to say that everyone has this opinion!! I think that the advert has been misunderstood by a lot of people, but please reconsider withdrawing your support. The charity still does important work with thousands of children everywhere.
I am disgusted that Barnardo's have deemed it necessary to show country people in such a biased and outright disrespectful way. Words may be spoken or written in newspapers, and may be forgotten, but when displayed in such a visual way, it will have a detrimental effect on the lives of many disaffected members of the country community. I will not be supporting this charity in the future, and will share my disgust with my friends and family and ask them to do the same.
The advert is very clearly saying that you can't judge every teenager by the behavior of a minority. To say that you would withdraw your support for an amazing charity because it may have anti-hunting overtones is ludicrous. What is more important, your views on hunting or the welfare of our children.
As a mother of a teenage boy, and a member of a country community I fully support this campaign and long may it continue to shock!!
I understand the point, but I disagree with the way it is put across. Foxhunting has been banned because people don't understand the countryside and now we are demonising the shooting community. If it was Muslims being demonised there would be an uproar - but because it is British people - we are missing the point.
How is it not judging every teen by the behaviour of a minority. Look past the obvious. Country people with shotguns, teenage gangs on the street, bang, kids dead. NOTHING to do with anti-hunting. Oh on that note, hunting was in place to get rid of vermin from over-running our great country. Let's look back in 10 years years time and see what has happened then.
As a result of this ill thought out and discriminatory video I have withdrawn my personal support and the fundraising efforts of my employer from Barnardos. The decision to negatively stereotype sporting shooters has caused hundreds if not thousands of sporting shooters to stop assisting Barnardos. Congratulations on shooting yourselves in the foot Barnardos.
I'm not at all shocked. Not all children are feral, but those that are and spend their time vandalising and being beyond the reach of the law tend to frustrate the law abiding.
I am split in my views on this. I think generalisations are dangerous and children as a group should not be generalised. However Barnardos needs to accept that gangs of out-of-control people who are predominately children and teenagers does exist. I have never heard anyone call for children to be shot so I think this ad goes too far. I speak from experience and I am young myself. We should remember that Barnardos is an organisation that opposes any form of punishment whatsoever.
I believe they actually do go out and shoot street children dead in countries like Brazil, because these children abandoned on the streets are seen as a pest problem. These shootings are believed to be carried out by death squads in the police force, although that has been denied. There was a British guy who set up a charity to help these children over there. Anyone know what happened to it?
Stickings90- Yes im familiar with that problem in Brazil but the poverty levels there are much worse than the UK. Here the problem is much more attitude than poverty.
A society that does not invest or nurture their youth and young people is a society on the decline. Wake up Brits these young people are your future like it or not.
Oh shit! The Daily Mail readers are out in force! First the overeaction of the Russell Brand and Jonathon Ross buisness and now they're throwing a paddy about young people. They've put down there fountain pens and have discovered the internet.
Seriously, you middle England, Daily Mail reading, braindead morons need to get a life.
Ok, fair enough lets not randomly shoot kids. But what about the lives of families that are ruined by gangs of yobs. Respect needs to exist on all sides.
Also it isn't just teenagers who are in these gangs, what about the "28 years young" drug dealers.
I wouldn't shoot them b4 they commit the crime but I would certainly do it after they are convicted of kicking someone to death!!!
oh shit. This kind of advertising we need on this planet. This gets the message through and stays on your mind. This really made me think about the whole situation.
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
the problem with the youth is the zionist controlled culture. The want to corrupt our youth and the have succeeded quite well with their JewWood, MTV ...
Darusdei- Of course they are not all bad. There are British children who are well behaved. But that doesn't take away the fact that most gangs are made up of people under 25.
The reason why people comment like that is propably the frustration about the clearly rotten youthculture. Maybe the problem is mostly in youth?!?!?!?!
er why u making a video about this when something DOES NEED TO BE DONE ABOUT GANGS AND KNIFE CRIME. im not saying shoot them tho rofl!! What do u expect people to say when they hear about a father being stabbed to death by a gang of youths? or teenagers stabbing each other? get back to the real world u pompous pricks.
This adverts unfair because while some people get angry when they hear of the constant stabings and violent crime commited by young people they would never wish to go out and attack young people indiscriminatley unless they were mentally ill.
Yet many, myself included would want to attack the specific individual perpetrators of these violent crimes, whether they were in their 40's or in their late teens.
That said, i generally empathise with young people who are not bad in their heart.
BVargas78- Well said. The ad is a complete distortion of mainstream views. Generalisations are wrong. People want justice, not massacres. Anyway theres probably some young people who would want other young people punished for their behaviour as much as anyone. I am young but I have no sympathy for young thugs who are real.
jazzwing- I believe Barnardos was taking some comments made by people on newspaper forums in regards to attitudes to British youth. In this ad they are role-playing those comments. The problem is (in my opinion) it is a distortion and exageration of most peoples sentiments.
The only shocking thing about this video is the lumpen acting. It was almost as if it was acted out by Barnardos youth workers... wait a minute, it was wasn't it? They WERE actually youth workers weren't they!! Oh man! That shit is just too tragic.
By raising the debate, Barnardos don't further demonise but rather give children and young people a voice. Children and young people already know what adults think of them. This has been evidenced through both our young peoples survey, conducted as part of this campaign, and via young people the BBC interviewed from a Birmingham school. This debate challenges the types of views depicted in this film. Children and young people are not animals and talking about them in this way does not help.
Putting this in front of a few young people doesn't qualify your reasoning. In fact, it makes you even more exploitative. It does however make barnardo's reckless and this piece of film dangerous. The climate of fear is all pervasive and what you guys have done is make sure that the broad right wing brush stroke of typical hang em high folks, are incited further to 'give up' on kids.
Well what about the country's voice? Would you like to post the details of how much time BASC had to object to this or shall I? In fact, i'll do it...... we had a DAY. IF that. Now that is not giving us a chance now, is it? And young people? This is a VERY broad spectrum. I'm a young person (18) and I know that people think what they want, it's who you are that counts. And how, in Birmingham, do you get a reliable sample that can be generalised to, lets say, the country?
This is intended to show how society condemns young people but it does nothing but enhance extremely dangerous misconceptions & further demonises our youth. Barnardos success and support is based on its unwavering belief in every child, but there will be children watching these adverts who will feel scared and threatened by the generalised and misguided adult opinions unjustifiably being given a voice by Barnardos. Therefore We urge Barnardos to reconsider its decision to run this campaign
I'm doing an investigation into the effect of institutions on the portrayal of teenagers in the media and I'm using this text. I think the general public are very misguided and believe only children and teenagers engage in anti-social behaviour because the media is telling us this and the BBC for eg. intend for us to conform to their 'ready made opinions'. I think it's shocking how the BBC can amplify and distort reality so much when they have a remit to work to enforced by the Government.
pinkpowerrangers 2 years ago
chavs hate everyone! i cant even go out of my house without getting harrased by local kids coz of how i dressed and when ya go to the cops they dont care the cops never do care.
biggoblyds 2 years ago
Whats actually really frightening is that Barnardos has missed the point entirely. Adults might say they would "shoot em", but there aren't any gangs of feral adults actually killing people. The same cannot be said about gangs of feral teenagers.
MISSED THE POINT. I won't be supporting Barnardos because of this advert.
truebot 2 years ago
I think it is a testament of young people everywhere that there is not more crime, considering the shit they have to deal with from their supposed 'betters' and elders.
MattyAustin14 2 years ago
+50 pts!!!! funny as hell when he unloads shotgun.
jspeed1988 2 years ago
Not all children are vile and anti social... dont make out that all young people are the same... we know for a fact they arnt!!!!
helen2oo6 2 years ago
these men did the correct course of action.
AndroidPolitician 2 years ago
What is interesting is that in a recent survey over 65% of secondary school children would have some sort of physical punisment brought back. This is obviously because there are a majority of decent kids that want to get on.These are prevented by the chavs,scroats or what ever we want to call them getting away with all sorts at school and on the streets while the authorities have little or no power to do anything.The good kids need protection from the violent chavs aswell as the adults.
KGMDMusic 2 years ago
From the comments here it seems as though adults have a lack of so called imagination in solving the problem of youth crime.
MrAK1432 2 years ago
Children are Running the Show,and think that the World owes them a Living.
The Trouble with Kids today is that they've had Too much Too Soon,and are always Complaining that they are Bored.
When in fact they have more to do now,than we had when we were Kids.
We Never had ipods,or the Internet in the 80s,but we had something that Kids Lack Today and that is IMAGINATION!
Kids don't seem to be Creative anymore,and you wouldn't catch a Kid climbing a Tree,or Playing Board Games.
Kids Lack ideas!
OurPaulie4591 2 years ago
the chavs get what they deserve. the hunters should kill all the gang leaders too. the government dont do any thing. i think human rights are lost when you commit a crime. note how the kids arnt killing someone or attacking firemen or a house but innocent. what right do we have to put up with this sort of stuff as law abiding citizens and they have the right to do it. Britan has gone to the fucking dogs!
catrank 2 years ago 4
Conscription; it's the key to this culture of thuggish behaviour, not the hug a hoodie tosh or make them feel wanted... They need the discipline that they may well not be getting at home (if they are then the military will harbour them.)
daleeasson 2 years ago 2
May be my first comment was over the top, but they piss me OFF.
watchingvideo39 2 years ago 2
Every word in this advert was right about alot of the little shits attacking innocent people more of what happens in this advert would be useful for them
Acquiesce24 2 years ago 5
Maybe conscription is the answer. I don't know. Talk of AK47s, etc, is sociopathic - but asking that we pity young people is a bit much. They're scary because they're violent, have no conscience and no respect - they certainly don't deserve ours.
If a tour in the military were to give them some discipline, maybe it's time to start considering it.
Munchkinssparkles 2 years ago 3
Strongly agree with you; everything you've stated
daleeasson 2 years ago
Note add. I'm not condemning all I'll say kids because that makes it a wider age spectrum, its the sort that attack in groups because they can't fight for a good reason on a one on one. you (kids) want respect earn it.
watchingvideo39 2 years ago
FUCK OFF all that don't like this comment. Give me an AK47 that'll sort the chavey scum. Lets get our country back. Stick them in the army. Human right's Fucking Earn It..
watchingvideo39 2 years ago 5
We should be encouraging this sort of thing
pritoli89 2 years ago
And there's me thinking "at last people taking some scum out" and the ad's arguing against it! The ad is, of course the best way to deal with these little shits. Society's gone bad because no one does anything, now we have PC social worker types saying we should be nice to these little bastards. Well, look where that's got us. Respectable people being kicked to death outside their own homes by people that are hardly human. No, guns and revenge are the answer. Look out fuckers...
boxferret 2 years ago 4
And what's with the gun lobby types on here?
Anyone with a gun is a potential killer. Don't like that? Don't own a gun. I mean this video was set in an urban area for fucks sake. How the hell can the rural gun lobby moan about that?
How do you know the people in the video aren't criminals or such?
theredraven 2 years ago
Anyone with a paper bag or ginger hair is also a potential killer. Its the stereotypical dress and surroundings that may suggest a rural location.
5acidhouse 2 years ago
You know, the fact these words are real is kind of a damming indictment of both how badly the government has failed to stop youth crime and how feral the adult population can be when pushed.
It's a sad day.
theredraven 2 years ago
shock tactics will not work beauase no own gives a shit explashy the pernents of the little shits
Contago 2 years ago
Can you post that again but in English please. I didn't understand anything but the first five words.
theredraven 2 years ago
Sensationalist cr@p ! Comments are one thing, but for the charity to realise it in these images is just wrong !
realgungho 2 years ago
lol most people are joking when they say that stuff.... i could say i'm gonna kill you on the interwebs. But am i gonna kill you?
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pianist231 2 years ago 2
thats so true, you can't take seriously what people post on the internet.
brades92 2 years ago
lol....
Is it illegal to shoot chavs? lol would never have guessed.
I think people wouldn't say such horrific things if these *so called* children weren't thugs.
Anyone find it distressing that they made an advert based on the comments of people. The internet is a veil where people say things they wouldn't normally say. How often to they monitor us? Do they profile us on our internet characteristics...because if soo that bullshit
Avionicgenius 2 years ago
you guys are stupid. "i own a gun, i wont shoot them" - there not trying to say that morons! they were presenting the fact that every quote was what people had written on a forum, and if people acted apon what they wrote, that would be what it was like. Barnandos is an amazing charity and this advert deserves credit.
ruggahrulez 2 years ago
so are we to asume that when people write stuff on a foum, they seriously mean it?! bullshit!
i'm going to touch your willy tonight.
havfunky 2 years ago
So why not depict a religious group or an ethnic group. Answer ! because they would have been sued out of sight.
Legal rural gun owners are also a minority group. They should retract this insulting crap.
5acidhouse 2 years ago
I don't think they were getting at legal rural gun owners, but i suppose they were used in the advert. It's not what the adverts about is it?
poloptree 2 years ago
The fact remains they insulted a group of people. When challenged they stuck up the two fingers at us.
If I do something and later find out I insulted somebody by doing it, then I hope I am big enough to appologise and try to put it right. Obviously they dont give a damn.
5acidhouse 2 years ago
How do you know they were legal rural gun owners?
They might have been people with illegally owned weapons. Those shotguns didn't look like the normal sort farmers use. More like combat ones the police have.
theredraven 2 years ago
it looked like a suburban area to me like surrey or suffolfk and sussex you know the home counties and so on people in those parts are less tolorant lol .
cambershots 2 years ago
The fact remains, a selection of the general public were offended by the video and Barnardos wouldnt respond to their requests so that section of the public will no longer support the charity. In fact I now go out of my way to discourage others from supporting them. I wonder who will be the next group to be shunned by them? Perhaps the disabled or the Asian community or just perhaps the weird types that feel the need to swear in print???
5acidhouse 2 years ago
Does this advert even look like it's in a fucking rural area?
I mean Micheal Ryan owned his AK-47 legally and look what he did in an urban area. Legal gun owners are all potential killers in the same way illegal gun owners are.
theredraven 2 years ago
THIS VIDEO IS NOT SAYING ALL GUN OWNERS ARE CHILD KILLERS!
For fucks sake, the way you've all come out and made such retarded comments on this video has shown you in a much worse light than this video ever could.
BagOfCunts 2 years ago
No just the few of us then.
Nothing retarded about defending your minority group.
5acidhouse 2 years ago
You're right nothing retarded about defending a minority accept when they're not being attacked. The advert wasn't using them as a stereotype or anything, its the point of the advert that matters, they were most likely hunters of animals, which translates into the message of the adverts (adults HUNTING animals who are children in this case)
poloptree 2 years ago
It does not matter how you twist or turn how you think people see the video. It upset thousands of people and good old Barnardos said tough go tell someone who gives a rats arse.
5acidhouse 2 years ago
typical tabloid drivel, you think kids were any better 50 years ago during the "golden age"
Cyburn2005 2 years ago
well lets kill all these chavs they all fucking bullys !
cooltomxxxx 2 years ago 2
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prittynae2008 2 years ago
Wow..witness the shooting lobby mobilising...
jeremydavis123 2 years ago
Some of the comments on here are really thick.
vanillaorchid 2 years ago
The problem is that there are a large number of kids who are far worse in character than those portrayed in the above commercial. The lack respect, discipline and at most extreme disregard for their own personal safety and future well being as well as others prompts the following question. Why should the law enforcement agencies in the UK have to waste tax payers money to babysit and monitor these particular individuals. Of course i dont condone violence but strict and harsher methods are needed
LeLionNoire 3 years ago 2
If there are children 'far worse in character than those portrayed in the above commercial' then we need to ask why.
Only from understanding these behaviours can we see k to change them now and in the future.
A instant 'revenge' response is highly unlikely to bring any benefits to these children or to society as a whole.
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sophieobebrill 3 years ago
I'm not donating to banardos ever again, that is safe to say. Next time i will give my money to somethign worth while like Oxfam prehaps? Not this discriminating crap. Wait until you or your child gets bullied or mugged by one of those kids, i have not been raised in ideal circumstances, but i always knew when i was upsetting/hurting someone and would never resort to that to help myself.
tarfun5959 3 years ago 2
I recently got a reply saying this was an attack on the comments.... so why did they need to show this. I was at a clay bird shoot last sunday and some of the shooters were pelted with eggs just because we were shooting. It scared me, never mind the others. Truth is, how many people with gun licences that enable you to have a shotgun are going to use it to do anything other than shoot clays and birds (when in season)???? answer me that!
fieryfi103 3 years ago 2
when i heard about this controversy i thought its like the shooting community to take offense, but after seeing this if i didnt know better i would have thought it to be an animal rights video, campaigning against shooting, it seems downright malicious
r0b8ie91 3 years ago
Whats this,delieverence?These bloody charity organisations should be saving their money and spending wisely,instead of churning out crap like this.Whilst I'm a charitable person,I don't believe in this,as this is an insult to the rural and shooting fraternities of the UK.I want a showdown with these 'lovies' soon,as I'll give it to them,with both barrels.
dave284000 3 years ago 2
Completely over the top, the message may be about the demonisation of children, but it still portrays us shooting folk in very unfair terms.
099fred 3 years ago 2
how can barnados get away with this? i mean honestly? i cant beleive they actually showed this on tv.
charlieorr4 3 years ago
what sort of meassage was that sending, and to who and what ?
sirhc141 3 years ago
The message was not lost on me at all.
I just object to the way some misguided people have attempted to put it across.
logunman 3 years ago
Like everyone that has posted comments about this film i feel that Bernardo's portrays the shooting and hunting community as some sort of child killers.I have a young son that i,m trying to show a untainted aspect of shooting and hunting to him and feel that this sort of rubbish will just fuel the anti shooting and hunting people.I think that someone at Bernardo's needs to think very long and hard about what they have done and apologize .
Tricke8899 3 years ago
What the hell Barnardo's were thinking when they came up with this one, I really do not know. I have been a legal gun owner for 35 years and am sick and tired of antis and gun bashers.
If this video had been made with such a reference to any other group of UK citizens someone would probably be answering a hate incitement case now.
Well done Barnado's, another supporter lost for ever!
logunman 3 years ago
I think the message is lost on you. It's not an attack on gun ownership, it's about not demonising young people.
HardcoreClassics 3 years ago
so why did they not use handguns then? The fact of the matter is that they portrayed people with shotguns as child killers, end of.
fieryfi103 3 years ago
Because people don't go hunting with handguns.
This advert was aimed at the comments about children being feral animals that need to be hunted down and shot.
The majority of people I think understand that it's an attack on those comments and not those with guns. I thought the messge was quite clear. Maybe a lot of gun owners are a little paranoid and sensitive.
HardcoreClassics 3 years ago
i dont think i need to really say anymore. everything im thinking has been said. next time im asked if i could spare a few quid for a good cause....i'l go to the next charity.
longy123456 3 years ago
totally unneeded
stuk5101 3 years ago
demonisation of chilren... what about the fukin demonisation of legal gun owners who are now being persecuted by a charity who support human rights... human rights.. some hope
I used to really support barnardos but now I refuse to support them,.. until they appologise on the news for this slander and rubbish!!!
Nathaniel... BASC number 160055613 (junior)
andolini123 3 years ago
what a pile of f**king s**t !!!!!!!!!!!
outdoorlife1992 3 years ago
This will only further myths about the hunting community. Barnados clearly had the arrogance to think that they could use hunting as a medium for their message and get away with it. If they had used another minority group then their would be general uproar. They shall not be getting anymore of my money.
CSan101 3 years ago
As another viewer said, the only people who are being 'demonised' are the hunting and rural community. This in no way, shape or form portrays the current problems in terms of cruelty to chrildren! I am also am a member of BASC and am completely confused, annoyed and upset by this video. I personaly feel a formal apology, by Banardos, should be made to all those in the concerning community as im sure most people on here will agree with.
Tbishop1988 3 years ago
Being brought up in 'the field', I was always told when looking at beaters and shooters who work their dogs you'll always get good ones, one's that need a bit more work and one's which haven't been given any training at all. The way a dog works shows how well it's been handled and trained. There is no difference when it comes to young people. Like dogs, some look terrifying, but are well mannered and trained and some look soft and adorable, but are just complete psychos. Now you do the math!
Bandannaband 3 years ago
Banardos have made a big mistake here. I am a media professional, my foster sister came from a Banardos home over 30 years ago, i have a teenager and i'm a keen shot. I see this film from all sides. Banardos have taken sound bites/text from a range of media and edited it into something that is portraying the hunting community as vigilante. It would have been much more powerful if these words had been spoken by a cross section of the public - this is where these opinions come from.
lukebeau 3 years ago
Barnardo's you stupid stupid people. The only people 'demonised' in this film are are a huge rural comunity in the UK that are becoming more and more commonly victims of 'social exclusion'. I was alerted to this video after reading BASC and it being discussed in my college. I am genuinely offended.
Bugger Off Barnardo's!
TNM111 3 years ago
I am a keen young shooter and heard about your video through the BASC (British Association for Shooting and Conservation) magazine and after watching your video am left utterly baffled at how you can compare decent respectable people like myself, to child killers. We don't drive around the countryside, killing everything in our path, and calling our quarry "vermin" and "parasites" We shoot to eat, or wear/use fur, and have the utmost respect for our "prey". Don't demonise respectable people!
Mastication4DaNation 3 years ago
Responsible hunters like myself only shoot for food which is a good reason to shoot. Also those certain qutes from the film sounded as if they had been taken from insnae child haters/abusers. SO you should have taken action against them to stop them attempting to hurt kids. I was offended by this film and I hope it isnt broadcasted on TV as it wiil give the public a bad view of hunters like me
Harryccpc 3 years ago
. I was offended by how it had portrayed hunters going out to shoot children. The way one of the hunters said"Letskill those vermin" upset me. Its sounds as if those hunters are just going out to kill children for no appareant reason.
Harryccpc 3 years ago
I am 14 and I am a huneter. After read my fathers copy of the BASC magazine I thought I would look a the barnardos shooting video
Harryccpc 3 years ago
I am a young shooter who lives in the city and am disgusted by what i see here. this quite obviously oversteps the line of even imagination, i would quite like for you to find an example of this happening, being planned and put into action in real life. You can make videos about things which actually happen, but not those which you think would be terrible if they did happen. I hope you feel ashamed of yourselves that you spent money on this instead of 'helping the children'
footymaniac2 3 years ago
wtf that sets a good image for shooters and farmers for people who live in the citys , why the hell should they have the right to do that?
joeygardiner 3 years ago
Ridiculous! Barnardos may think they're doing good by bringing to light the 'plight of children' or whatever they may call it. Yes there are children in trouble, yes it should be stopped. The comments referred to in the advert...people don't say that about children in general. NED's, chavs,or whatever you may call them...they do need sorting out and in no soft manner! Barnardos also managed to offend the entire British shooting/hunting community with this advert. Well done townies!
MacMoose1 3 years ago
carm down its only a comericail letterly it is carm down
lukespaceship 3 years ago
I think Barnardo is being highly racist by only showing white people in this film.
sirinferno 3 years ago
It...it's England...not Africa...?
Not really sure what you're trying to get at with this comment. Does every ad need an equal percentage of all races in it?
I think you are the one being highly racist for noticing how many white people are in the ad. Stop being so immature.
l2enegadesofFunk 3 years ago
your mum should be less immature
sirinferno 3 years ago
I think maybe they were joking ;)
Mastication4DaNation 3 years ago
Oh crap, reply didn't work. That was a reply to someone way down the page, who called someone else immature
Mastication4DaNation 3 years ago
Who was joking? I don't think I made a point against anyone that was joking.
l2enegadesofFunk 3 years ago
I find it disturbing that a CHILDRENS CHARITY produces a advert that explains at the start that NO CHILD SHOULD WATCH THIS. ponder that for a moment then try to wake up
shotkilleddead 3 years ago
Not recommended viewing for children under 13 actually.
Wallsy70 3 years ago
What people need to realise is that if a child is ''bad person'', it's because it was brought up by a bad adult !
I don't see how people can have so much against something they've created !
Stop being so prejudice against children !
I fully support this advert, and Barnardo's campaigns against child abuse and poverty.
hannaclaraiceland 3 years ago 5
It's not always someone's fault if a child is acting badly. You can't lump it into (a) it's the parents' faults and (b) it's the children's faults. Things aren't that black and white. Sometimes it's the fault of the parents, sometimes it's other parts of society, sometimes it's just the child was bad to begin with and didn't have a chance. You can't always pin the blame on someone. You can just try to help the children who need the help.
So many people on here sporting immature views.
l2enegadesofFunk 3 years ago
The New Labour oligarchs have created a culture where no-one is willing to accept responsibility for anything, everything is always someone else's fault.
Combine this with a purely vocational educational system and you have a culture where children live in a permanent state of boredom.
I'd be interested in knowing how Barnardos responded to the Tory announcement that they wish to create 'work camps' for the young unemployed, there has been little public discussion of that.
EnormousHuntBall 3 years ago 3
"purely vocational educational system?" id have to disagree, you do know statistically its harder to get an apprenticeship than it is to get into Cambridge , i mean its practically unheard of to not go to university as well
r0b8ie91 3 years ago
Very few children of the working poor will go to university.
State schools do not teach children to learn, they simply make them memorise what they need to pass exams to get to the next level.
Why is no-one willing to accept that the reason our society is falling apart is because consumerism has stripped us of our social responsibility and turned us into brainless buying machines.
Its the advertising executives that we should be shooting in the streets not the kids.
EnormousHuntBall 3 years ago
England is FINISHED.
Syntox 3 years ago
england is a skeleton, it died 50 years ago and has been rotting ever since
r0b8ie91 3 years ago 2
You see people who commented who saw this and thought "no kill people who comment on the internet" not realising the oxymoron
leonleonceur 3 years ago
kill children
alexwormo 3 years ago
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
mopmopz 3 years ago
Some of that set looked alot like the longmoor training facility
abdaloser 3 years ago
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
LAZADALEDGEND 3 years ago
OMG this really carries a strong message. it is just disturbing! people often post very offensive and stupid things on the internet, that they might not say in public, but it reveals an aspect of their character that is very true. it is these attitudes that allow attrocities to occur, the first step to genocide etc is the conviction that the enemy is 'vermon' (eg the holocost) and i can't believe people in the uk slipping into this mess with their own chidren. gand violence is bad, this is worse
thelazyage 3 years ago 3
this is sooo inappropriate and a bad way to get a message across. it is teenagers over 13 who are going to be influenced by things like this, this only feeds desires to get involved with gang wars et... these teens are thr ones being killed by gunss and knives by other yong adults or teenagers. Barnados need to remove this add i am sure anny parent would not agree to this type of advertising. there are more creative and less damaging ways to get a message across.
joolzanne7 3 years ago
Sorry,but as a parent of a teenage boy I support this advert wholeheartedly.Please credit our children with some sense.I accept that there are children out there who run in gangs and get in trouble,but the teenagers I meet every day are respectful and trustworthy.I hate the idea of people judging or fearing my son and his friends.Making every kid feel looked down upon or even hated will lead to far more problems.If they are already found guilty,why shouldn't they commit the crime?
bibbinsbird 3 years ago 4
There are loads of shit children out there, but the vast majority are good people. And the shits often grow out of it, and those that don't will likely end up in prison anyway. Some of the anti-youth rubbish printed on Teletext and BBC 606 beggars belief.
LoafOfPint 3 years ago
errrrrr how horrible.
xcatluvax 3 years ago
I don't condone foxhunting or child killing but the fact of the matter is kids fall into two categories. One category is the child who is well behaved, gives respect to others and has manners. The other is the child who runs around, is a general annoyance, commits acts of vandalism and does not give a stuff for the consequences of their actions. It is the second category that riles the public and makes them consider what actions to take against them.
deadthevideo 3 years ago
Whats wrong with fox hunting!
leonleonceur 3 years ago
Well if a child falls into that second category you can't blame them !!
A person is influenced by those around him, so parents, family, friends...
If your child is raised properly, and has a structured life they won't act out, at least not that badly !!
So the public shouldn't be angry with the children, rather the parents who made the decision to have the child and not raise it properly !!
It's not that hard, you just have to make an actual effort !
hannaclaraiceland 3 years ago 2
"The fact of the matter is kids fall into two catagories."
What on earth are you talking about? Children are people and are not two dimensional beings who can be neatly slotted into "good" and "bad" catagories.
What about a 16 year old kid who does well at school but once in a blue moon gets drunk and graffiti's a wall? S/he could still be a doctor, a lawyer, or whatever would make it into your esteemed first catagory should you have one for adults. Where's your evidence of these catagories?
jezvegas 2 years ago
Who said kids fall into two categories, thats bloody insulting that is. Thats like saying adults fall into two categories slacking no good on the dole retards and upstanding citizens of the empire. Polar opposites cannot be used in society, ever, theres always a gray zone inbetween. Agreeing with you by the way.
poloptree 2 years ago 2
Is this a joke or something? I know it's a dramatization but of what? Is there some effort in the U.K. to do away with kids? I don't get it. And if it's just satire it's not coming through real clear either.
shaybshay 3 years ago
The best thing we can do is see the point of the film. "These are real comments made by a general public, posted on UK websites." This sort of thinking, the people who do so needs to be stopped. The Children are at risk due to the way some think. CHILDREN. Lets not make this an issue about ourselves and take further attention away from the real issue...again for anybody who missed it,...THE CHILDREN.
reelegood 3 years ago 2
I agree. We have people too scared to come out of their homes after dark, because of the rubbish printed in the papers. If we give our children a reputation to live up to instead of negative press, we could see a real change.I hope this doesn't become a debate on hunting instead of the real issue.
bibbinsbird 3 years ago 6
Fear is, and always has been, the biggest motivating force in UK politics. The fear of children, itself possibly a backlash against media hysteria about child abuse, is just another means to maintain control.
The largely phony 'War on terror' is another example. Only 9% of "terrorist" arrests have been shown to have even the barest foundation in fact, the rest are just men with beards having the wrong skin pigment at the wrong time.
I blame the Daily Mail.
EnormousHuntBall 3 years ago 6
Gosh. I hope this ad isn't pulled. Been hunting since I was 8. Hunters are not killers, there is a big difference and any true hunter that was taught properly knows the difference. Hunters, we should all see past the characters, the actors, the props and see the point of the ad. There is no JAMES BOND, SUPERMAN, or PRETTY WOMAN. These are all films, made to entertain, make a point, some times provacative, sometimes hopeful, etc...
reelegood 3 years ago
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Complaints were made to Barnardos by various shooting organisations and Barnardos issued a statement saying they did not intend to offend those involved in sporting shooting with the portrayal of hunters in their film. But Barnardos declined to add this statement to their own website or to remove the film, which continues to portray all shooters as potential killers.I and my shooting colleagues wil no longer support an organisation that portrays us all as a potential killers.
1andOnlyTopShot 3 years ago
When complaints were made by numerous shooting organisations Barnardos issued a statement saying they did not intend to offend those involved in sporting shooting with the portrayal of hunters in their film. But Barnardos declined to add this statement to their own website or to remove the film, which continues to portray all shooters as potential killers. Therefore I and my shooting collegues will no longer support an organisation that portrays us as potential killers to the general public
1andOnlyTopShot 3 years ago
What have Muslims got to do with it?
It's about people treating children like wild animals-so it seems more than fair to make parallels with hunting, and please don't make the mistake in thinking that hunting is a town/country debate. I live in south Devon and understand the country.Whatever our views on hunting, this advert is about beating bigotry, please don't hijack it with your political views. There are many people sticking up for bloodsports, how many are sticking up for our teenagers?
bibbinsbird 3 years ago
This shite has been paid for by taxpayers. What the fuck are you doing wasting our money on this shit. Are all white men shotgun owning vigilante teams?...if only
g3ftw 3 years ago
Come on !! I mean, if the men had been black, or hispanic you would have complained about that !!
They're trying to raise awareness about child prejudice, everyone who watches this advert KNOWS it's a dramatization !
What would you rather they used the money for ??
hannaclaraiceland 3 years ago 2
This is an awesome video, terrible statements made by ignorant bigots shown to be what they are. I understand Barnardos is comign under pressure from the shootin globby and BASC in particular to pull thi sad - I encourage them to stand firm and not give in. Yes it is hard-hitting - but it's a hard hitting subject.
MrDooog 3 years ago
Finally someone who makes a decent comment on a proper issue !
I thank you =)
hannaclaraiceland 3 years ago
How is shooting teens with shotguns a hard hitting subject? When was the last time you heard of a child of any age being shot at with a shotgun. As a gun licence holder, I personally would never imagine using my guns for any other purpose than clay bird shoots and shoots in the season. I am visited regularly by police officers to check my guns and ammuntion are secure. This means that anyone abusing the trust of the BASC will be instantly punished. Do your homework.
fieryfi103 3 years ago 2
God Damn it, forgive me if im wrong but you seem to be missing the point. The subject was never about guns or gun owners or anything about weaponry at ALL. The guns were used to grab your attention (which it obviously has) and then to promote a message, you realise the entire rthing is a metaphor?. I know it might not be the best way to get through to people but hell, shock tactics work.
poloptree 2 years ago
The whole point of the advert is to make you realise the shocking opinions of the minority. It intends to shock, not to say that everyone has this opinion!! I think that the advert has been misunderstood by a lot of people, but please reconsider withdrawing your support. The charity still does important work with thousands of children everywhere.
elliecutie88 3 years ago
I am disgusted that Barnardo's have deemed it necessary to show country people in such a biased and outright disrespectful way. Words may be spoken or written in newspapers, and may be forgotten, but when displayed in such a visual way, it will have a detrimental effect on the lives of many disaffected members of the country community. I will not be supporting this charity in the future, and will share my disgust with my friends and family and ask them to do the same.
FarmerSPalmer 3 years ago
I think you've missed the point.
The advert is very clearly saying that you can't judge every teenager by the behavior of a minority. To say that you would withdraw your support for an amazing charity because it may have anti-hunting overtones is ludicrous. What is more important, your views on hunting or the welfare of our children.
As a mother of a teenage boy, and a member of a country community I fully support this campaign and long may it continue to shock!!
bibbinsbird 3 years ago
I understand the point, but I disagree with the way it is put across. Foxhunting has been banned because people don't understand the countryside and now we are demonising the shooting community. If it was Muslims being demonised there would be an uproar - but because it is British people - we are missing the point.
FarmerSPalmer 3 years ago
How is it not judging every teen by the behaviour of a minority. Look past the obvious. Country people with shotguns, teenage gangs on the street, bang, kids dead. NOTHING to do with anti-hunting. Oh on that note, hunting was in place to get rid of vermin from over-running our great country. Let's look back in 10 years years time and see what has happened then.
fieryfi103 3 years ago
As a result of this ill thought out and discriminatory video I have withdrawn my personal support and the fundraising efforts of my employer from Barnardos. The decision to negatively stereotype sporting shooters has caused hundreds if not thousands of sporting shooters to stop assisting Barnardos. Congratulations on shooting yourselves in the foot Barnardos.
LauraParkerSmells 3 years ago 2
I'm not at all shocked. Not all children are feral, but those that are and spend their time vandalising and being beyond the reach of the law tend to frustrate the law abiding.
tomstickland 3 years ago
The mixed comments on this page proof that Barnardos has went too far.
CULAVE 3 years ago
I am split in my views on this. I think generalisations are dangerous and children as a group should not be generalised. However Barnardos needs to accept that gangs of out-of-control people who are predominately children and teenagers does exist. I have never heard anyone call for children to be shot so I think this ad goes too far. I speak from experience and I am young myself. We should remember that Barnardos is an organisation that opposes any form of punishment whatsoever.
CULAVE 3 years ago
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It's OK if they were only aiming for the niggers.
jsmith2470 3 years ago
I believe they actually do go out and shoot street children dead in countries like Brazil, because these children abandoned on the streets are seen as a pest problem. These shootings are believed to be carried out by death squads in the police force, although that has been denied. There was a British guy who set up a charity to help these children over there. Anyone know what happened to it?
Stickings90 3 years ago
Stickings90- Yes im familiar with that problem in Brazil but the poverty levels there are much worse than the UK. Here the problem is much more attitude than poverty.
CULAVE 3 years ago
the whole country is foobarred
m001900 3 years ago
A society that does not invest or nurture their youth and young people is a society on the decline. Wake up Brits these young people are your future like it or not.
Very very sad indictement of Britain today
ozychk21 3 years ago 3
Hehehe... :D Good video... Good campaign...
Nanoxen 3 years ago
Nice =DDDD
joomoi87 3 years ago
Gun rights were put in place so that citizens could protect themselves from the Government.
Don't give up your rights.
ianlondeo 3 years ago
shocked
zXzNastyzXz 3 years ago
Oh shit! The Daily Mail readers are out in force! First the overeaction of the Russell Brand and Jonathon Ross buisness and now they're throwing a paddy about young people. They've put down there fountain pens and have discovered the internet.
Seriously, you middle England, Daily Mail reading, braindead morons need to get a life.
Jdrizzz 3 years ago 2
Ok, fair enough lets not randomly shoot kids. But what about the lives of families that are ruined by gangs of yobs. Respect needs to exist on all sides.
Also it isn't just teenagers who are in these gangs, what about the "28 years young" drug dealers.
I wouldn't shoot them b4 they commit the crime but I would certainly do it after they are convicted of kicking someone to death!!!
truebot 3 years ago 2
truebot- I know exactly what you mean and this ad completely distorts the situation.
CULAVE 3 years ago
oh shit. This kind of advertising we need on this planet. This gets the message through and stays on your mind. This really made me think about the whole situation.
jylykka 3 years ago 2
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the problem with the youth is the zionist controlled culture. The want to corrupt our youth and the have succeeded quite well with their JewWood, MTV ...
ThoughtCriminal911 3 years ago
what sort of fantasy world are you living in?! Join the debate or shut up!
usukanchuey 3 years ago 3
so uk's youth is that bad?
cant be that bad...
Darusdei 3 years ago
Darusdei- Of course they are not all bad. There are British children who are well behaved. But that doesn't take away the fact that most gangs are made up of people under 25.
CULAVE 3 years ago
The reason why people comment like that is propably the frustration about the clearly rotten youthculture. Maybe the problem is mostly in youth?!?!?!?!
allrightballtight 3 years ago
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hunt them all down,country of as have chaos too,they are all son of a bitches!
McJuhiSS 3 years ago
Just ban guns and knives... no wait..damn.
kantti 3 years ago 4
you mug who wrote that at the top
9tara1 3 years ago
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Brittish kids are retards and totally lost. We have a generation of degenerate apes. Kill them all.
availablename12 3 years ago
availablename12- Although I think the ad goes too far, idiots like you only reinforce it.
CULAVE 3 years ago
er why u making a video about this when something DOES NEED TO BE DONE ABOUT GANGS AND KNIFE CRIME. im not saying shoot them tho rofl!! What do u expect people to say when they hear about a father being stabbed to death by a gang of youths? or teenagers stabbing each other? get back to the real world u pompous pricks.
m001900 3 years ago 2
This adverts unfair because while some people get angry when they hear of the constant stabings and violent crime commited by young people they would never wish to go out and attack young people indiscriminatley unless they were mentally ill.
Yet many, myself included would want to attack the specific individual perpetrators of these violent crimes, whether they were in their 40's or in their late teens.
That said, i generally empathise with young people who are not bad in their heart.
BVargas78 3 years ago 5
BVargas78- Well said. The ad is a complete distortion of mainstream views. Generalisations are wrong. People want justice, not massacres. Anyway theres probably some young people who would want other young people punished for their behaviour as much as anyone. I am young but I have no sympathy for young thugs who are real.
CULAVE 3 years ago 6
What the hell is this advert supposed to mean?
jazzwing 3 years ago
jazzwing- I believe Barnardos was taking some comments made by people on newspaper forums in regards to attitudes to British youth. In this ad they are role-playing those comments. The problem is (in my opinion) it is a distortion and exageration of most peoples sentiments.
CULAVE 3 years ago 3
The only shocking thing about this video is the lumpen acting. It was almost as if it was acted out by Barnardos youth workers... wait a minute, it was wasn't it? They WERE actually youth workers weren't they!! Oh man! That shit is just too tragic.
webb3ro 3 years ago
This will eventually happen in UK if the problem doesnt stop.
kieronj 3 years ago 4
LOL! Just what we need! Uk young people are terrible
kieronj 3 years ago 4
Frightening but Inevitable.
dennisthemennis4 3 years ago 3
By raising the debate, Barnardos don't further demonise but rather give children and young people a voice. Children and young people already know what adults think of them. This has been evidenced through both our young peoples survey, conducted as part of this campaign, and via young people the BBC interviewed from a Birmingham school. This debate challenges the types of views depicted in this film. Children and young people are not animals and talking about them in this way does not help.
ZohraAtBarnardos 3 years ago
Putting this in front of a few young people doesn't qualify your reasoning. In fact, it makes you even more exploitative. It does however make barnardo's reckless and this piece of film dangerous. The climate of fear is all pervasive and what you guys have done is make sure that the broad right wing brush stroke of typical hang em high folks, are incited further to 'give up' on kids.
usukanchuey 3 years ago 6
Keep your shilling comments to yourself
g3ftw 3 years ago
Well what about the country's voice? Would you like to post the details of how much time BASC had to object to this or shall I? In fact, i'll do it...... we had a DAY. IF that. Now that is not giving us a chance now, is it? And young people? This is a VERY broad spectrum. I'm a young person (18) and I know that people think what they want, it's who you are that counts. And how, in Birmingham, do you get a reliable sample that can be generalised to, lets say, the country?
fieryfi103 3 years ago
No need to shoot them, eventually they'll just stab each other.
sexualvodka 3 years ago
This is intended to show how society condemns young people but it does nothing but enhance extremely dangerous misconceptions & further demonises our youth. Barnardos success and support is based on its unwavering belief in every child, but there will be children watching these adverts who will feel scared and threatened by the generalised and misguided adult opinions unjustifiably being given a voice by Barnardos. Therefore We urge Barnardos to reconsider its decision to run this campaign
Beatbullying 3 years ago 2