Canine DNA test results

[gimminigasm]

Unfortunately most DNA tests are not designed for purebred dogs. Wisdom Panel even has a separate test for purebred dogs because the even state that there will be inaccuracies when testing purebred dogs for mixed breed heritage. Frankly, aside from the border collie which may have come up because of an error (did you fast Savvy?), what you received seems about as accurate as you could expect (Bostons have pit bull type dogs in their heritage and pit bull type dogs have bulldog in their heritage)

[Dragnwidow]

haaaa sorry even when i showed American Staffords I told people that they arent pure breed, all dogs are mix >>> I use to make people sooo mad >>LOLOL

[Marorhino]

What kind of Dog bed is that?

[prplehrt17]

That's funny...I don't know where they got border collie from, but Boston Terriers are related to Pit Bulldog breeds, way way back in the day. Gorgeous dog, who cares what that test says!

[megatete]

He is the most beautiful dog I've ever seen. Lucky you!

[Kalie22686]

LOL! Hey think of it this way! You shouldn't have ANY problem renting a home! If the landlord says no pit bulls ect, you can just show them his DNA results "Aren't Border Collies allowed?" LOL! Hope to see a video of his herding abilities hehe

[Boyyouabitch]

what a scam lol  besides that your American Staffordshire is beautiful lady.

[kasjamm]

I'm guessing its a pit/boxer mix

[entershikarisim]

@kasjamm I guess you missed the bit in the video where she said he was AKC CH American Staffordshire Terrier.

[CanadianAnimalLuver]

haha, you can use the results of they pass any breed bans. CLEARLY your dog is a border collie.

[Ravette123]

This video cracked me up! We did one of these on a friends champion Labrador and they told her it was a Great Dane, Yorkshire...

We even talked to the company about the results and their reply was that the test isn't meant for purebred dogs and that throws the results off.. Riiigghhhtt!

I almost wonder if they just look at the picture they request and hire people to guess, if so they need to hire more dog people.

[Ravette123]

This video cracked me up! We did one of these on a friends champion Labrador and they told her it was a Great Dane, Yorkshire...

We even talked to the company about the results and their reply was that the test isn't meant for purebred dogs and that throws the results off.. Riiigghhhtt!

I almost wonder if they just look at the picture they request and hire people to guess, if so they need to hire more dog people.

[ATouchOfMagic88]

looks like a beautiful pitbull (amstaff) to me :) my dog is actually a pitbull/ border collie mix and she's more thick then a border collie,more muscles and short coat.... anyway i was thinking of DNA testing her to since i never saw the parents....

[nicholasbhicks]

she seem like a really nice dog

[jimlupi]

When it comes to DNA testing for dogs it is approved by the AKC to tell parentage, not breed type.

[jimlupi]

Inaccurate

these tests have no basis and are basically a scam because the DNA determinants of most phenotypic traits are as yet unknown.

[1Rene1Narvaez]

I LOVE THIS!

SO FUNNY

[pitbullhugga]

I also have read repeatedly that AmStaffs are PitBulls but the American Kennel Club just didn't want to denote their illegal heritage so they called the American Staffordshires to reflect their shared lineage with the Staffordshire Bull Terrier of England? This is how the two can be dual registered.

[pitbullhugga]

Weird, everything I ever read on AmStaffs indicates that the AKC breed standard was based on a UKC APBT... so I would have to say that fact and that the two "breeds" can still be dual registered would be an indication that they are very related. LOL! I think the only outstanding difference is that you can't register a rednose Amstaff.

Of course these tests are a scam, but $100 to prove your dog mostly border collie and isn't banned is worth it. So shhhhhh! LOL!!!

[pitbullhugga]

Weird, everything I ever read on AmStaffs indicates that the AKC breed standard was based on a UKC APBT... so I would have to say the fact that fact and that the two "breeds" can still be dual registered would be an indication that they are very related. LOL! I think the only outstanding difference is that you can't register a rednose Amstaff.

Of course these tests are a scam, but $100 to prove your dog mostly border collie and isn't banned is worth it. So shhhhhh! LOL!!!

[Turbopit100]

Hahaha, that is one great looking Border Collie!

[madtabby66]

Well I ordered one from CanineHeritage, who does the AKC tests. Now lets see if my Dobe or Rott X comes up as a Corgie.

[madtabby66]

Funny, to register my Canadian dog with the AKC, I have to send in a DNA sample. I wonder if my Brittany is really am Am Staff.

Seriously though, thanks. I was going to waste the cash to figure out if my Xbreed is DobeXSheperd or RottXShepherd.

[britneyslut]

"WHITE PEOPLE ARE CRAZY !"

[bitchalicious44]

If the DNA testing companies wanted to be credible then they should have waited until they could accurately ID all breeds before making this test available to the public. Just out for that all mighty dollar of course. And a Border Collie is no where near close to an Am. Staff and a purebred dog that breeds true to type for many generations shouldn't have any other breeds showing in their DNA. If human DNA tests were this inaccurate they wouldn't be reliable now would they?

[DebraDownSth]

The site in 2008 clearly said they don't test your breed. The best they could do is look at closest DNA markers. Your complaint is like getting a gold test kit and whining it doesn't work on silver. They DO have your breed this year... why not show some integrity, retest and pull this unfair video that most people aren't aware enough to know you, not the company, was at fault.

[queenma1214]

@DebraDownSth Sorry, even today I agree with her. I had my dog (a supposedly purebred Aussie) tested by Wisdom Panel, which now tests 185 breeds. I wanted to see if it was possible that she has a bit of Sheltie or Border Collie, as her ears are pricked and out of standard. But there is NO DOUBT in anyone's mind (including other Aussie owners) that have seen her that she is primarily Aussie. So the test results came back 5/8 mixed breed, 1/8 Aussie, 1/8 Rough Collie and 1/8 king charles spaniel..

[XxPnuemaxX]

Wow. Never would've guessed border collie.

[brett146]

A pit bull is a general name for all dogs with the large head, powerful body, etc. The American Pit Bull Terrier and the AmStaff are both breeds of dogs, a pit bull is not. However, if you have an APBT or AmStaff, you can register them as either.

[dezeantonio]

for fuck sakes a pit bull is NOT a american stafford... shit man how many times people are gonna think that

[chakodogs]

Tell that to the UKC and the AKC since Savvy is dual registered as an American Pit Bull Terrier with the UKC and an American Staffordshire Terrier with the AKC :)

[DebraDownSth]

@dezeantonio Perhaps you need to read up before making potty mouth responses.

AKC: In any event, it was the cross between the Bulldog and the terrier that resulted in the Staffordshire Terrier, which was originally called the Bull-and-Terrier Dog, Half and Half, and at times Pit Dog or Pit Builterrier. Later, it assumed the name in England of Staffordshire Bull Terrier.

[DebraDownSth]

From Pit Bull site: There are several types of dogs that are commonly called "Pit Bulls." Primarly, these are the American Pit Bull Terrier, the American Staffordshire Terrier (AST), and the Staffordshire Bull Terrier (SBT). All three of these dogs share common ancestry but have been subsequently bred emphasizing different breeding criteria.

[stoennee]

@dezeantonio Amstaffs are different dogs than the staffie bulls. American Staffordshires have a bigger body and a less smushed in nose. Staffordshire Bull Terriers and much smaller and stocky looking, with slightly smaller/pushed in nose that often leads to their characteristic underbites.

[piepeace]

@dezeantonio very different dogs. get your facts straight you creep.

[oooohblondiexo]

What a beautiful doggy :)

[bitchalicious44]

Anyone wanting to argue that Pit Bulls and Am. Staffs are not the same breed is just showing their ignorance about the breed(s). The Am. Staff name came about by the AKC to disassociate themselves with dogfighting, not because the breed was mixed with anything else to make it different. If they were different breeds you couldn't have them dual registered.

[JulieTrainsDogs]

@bitchalicious44

Actually, the American Pit Bull Terrier and the American Staffordshire Terrier are arguably two different breeds. This is a heated topic in the dog world. Blue is a color that was never present in the APBT, as stated by Jack Colby, and was later found in the AmStaff. This is because the Amstaff was bred along mastiff lines and the English Mastiff did come in blue. They were originally the same dog, and then they were bred, one for working the other for show.

[SHvar]

These tests have gotten alot of breeders in trouble for selling mixed breeds as purebreds. The test is right, the breeder is crooked or has been decieved themselves. None the less the most pitbulls and amstaffs are not really what they are claimed to be, this has been proven before many times.

[tekkchick]

They are not the same breed. Amstaffs aren't as "gamey" as the apbts and they have a standard. Their heads are totally different as are colorings. There is a significant difference once you own both of them.

[cheryl4967]

great video ... i have wondered about those kits ... and i love your dogs tail, keeps wagging it wondering what you are up to ... very cute ...

[CreedBratton1925]

Just goes to show you that no breed is a pure breed. They have been mixed and matched too many times to have significantly different karyotypes. Also, it is hard to judge this DNA test just from your side, we are not shown exactly what your dog's dna is being compared to.

But you do have a beautiful dog there.

[Retrieverman1]

I certainly hope in these days of really draconian BSL that these tests aren't used to determine what a "Pit Bull" is!

[illonahaus]

i agree with you ... if the dog's breed isn't on the list, you'd think it would come back "undetermined." have you contacted the company at all?

[illonahaus]

i hope you're getting Savvy some sheep ... pronto!

we've recently added another rescue to our pack and i would LOVE to know his breeds since he's definitely not all JRT ... but i have so little faith in these tests. and the breeds i think he's got in him aren't even on their list here with the Canadian DNA testing company. in fact, it's a rather pitiful list ... doesn't even have wirehaired pointer or griffon so that i could test my other rescue girl who is definitely one or the other.

[Quin7475]

What people fail to understand is that their "purebred" dogs come from an intentionally limited gene pool of mutts. Breeders were often quite secretive about which breeds were used for development of their new breed.

Obviously, the Bulldog contributed to the bone structure, coat colors and some of the personality.  I can see Boston terrier contributing to the coat and eye colors. The Border Collie would be where they get their "wink", intelligence, tenacity and partially their ear shape.

[OutlawSteph]

lol.  What a handsome STAFFIE!! :)

[sanjose21ca]

who knows what the most accurate DNA testing company is for dogs?

[dragontear2s]

Stymie is right, they are not the same breed and they are not even choices on the test. She can't expect them to give her a breed result that isn't on the test. Boston Terrier has some of the same breeds in its history as the Am Staff so it being on the list shouldn't be surprising. I agree that the kind of test she is doing isn't very accurate but going to the vet to have a dog DNA'd with it's mom's DNA to compare to figure out breed is not done in the same manner.

[chakodogs]

Actually, comparing whether two individuals are related is a much easier process than trying to determine breed. All you do is run the DNA and, essentially, look for similarities in "bands/markers" and, depending on the nature/number/type of similarities, you can determine if the individuals are related. That's much more established science than trying to determine breed. Again, it doesn't matter if Pit Bull or AST is on their list. It should not come back something it isn't, period.

[Jal1515]

@dragontear2s wrong.. there is no Boston Terrier linage in Am Staffs or Pit Bulls neither in Bull Dogs :) just had to say that.

[AmericanPitbulls1]

@dragontear2s for god sakes pitbull is a name for a group of breeds the bully breed the staffy the bull terrier most are terriers but that is part of the problem when people say pitbull you are talking about over 10 different breeds the real name is American Pit Bull Terrier not pitbull

[AmericanPitbulls1]

@AmericanPitbulls1 that was wrong that or he has been tongue to tongue kissing those breeds haha

[StymieBlymie]

Am. Staff. and Pit Bull are not on the breed list so it's no surprise that those breeds were not reported in your results. This is misleading.

[chakodogs]

Savvy is dual registered with the UKC as an American Pit Bull Terrier. You may not think they are the same breed, but actually they are...especially when it comes to genetics. Not only did they all come from the same genetic stock just a few decades ago, but because of the cross regsitration (ADBA even accepts UKC and AKC dogs), the AST and the APBT are the same breed, just a different name. There are some minor differences in the standards (the UKC and AKC are much closer than the ADBA and AKC)

[StymieBlymie]

@chakodogs My point is that the test analyzes the DNA for specific breeds and Pit Pull (and Am. Staff, regardless of whether or not they are the same breed) is not on the list. How could the test possibly report a breed that it is not looking for?!

To criticize the test because it doesn't report a breed it's not even looking for is misleading.

[chakodogs]

Simple. It would say "undetermined." It would not come back with "Border Collie.' most people who have mixed breeds dogs are taking the test because they do NOT know what breeds are in the dog. So, if the test deems a dog that is NOT a Border Collie a Border Collie, then it won't be having much luck with mixed breed dogs of unknown heritage, either.

[SHvar]

@StymieBlymie Those tests may show breeds that were combined to produce a breed, if the breed isnt included in the test, read the paperwork, thats explained.

[1990lilmiss]

yes they r the same breed, the UKC reconixes it as the pitbull where as the AKC reconizes it as a the amstaff cuz they dont want to be associated with a bad rap dog so they change the breed name !

[tool987ja]

primarily border collie?  well he did solve that dog logic puzzle...aren't border collies supposed to be the smartest breed? lol ;-)

[jarvik2000]

Your dog is beautiful.

[jenology1]

What a delightful video you and your collie/ Boston terrier/ bulldog made together. He could have fooled me into thinking that he was a champion AmStaff. He sure is a fine mannered gentleman but that must be the Boston gentleman in him.

We are adopting a rescue puppy born to a blue pit bull mother the pup is colored somewhat like your dog. Watching your video has relaxed my need to guess her DNA on her unknown father's side.

Thanks for producing a fun video.

[fridaynightkiller]

Your dog is gorgeous!!

[zanoii]

Great fun! Thanx for the video and the laughs!

[Vlaxitov]

Seeing how absurd the test results are here make me think that Maury never really knows for sure when he says, "you are the father" or "you are not the father."

[Jal1515]

that's different.. when they test for that, it's a DNA compare test.. where they compare the baby's saliva with the "father" or father.. and if they match it's because it is.. or if not, then it isn't his child. As for a dog, you're testing what breed his not who the father is lol.

[Vlaxitov]

Yeah, I understand the particulars, it was just a joke. The punchline of the joke was supposed to be, wow they couldn't even get the obvious breed right.

Btw, paternity tests are blood tests.

[LillPersill]

I simply love ur video, poor Savvy who is now primarily Border Collie... lol. He is beautiful, and seems as such a sweet dog!

[Tundrazzy]

Very interesting, well-done, thought-provoking video. But above all I enjoyed your beautiful dog's wonderful personality, tail whacking the wall, him vocalizing and giving you kisses. I think he's still a champion!!

[GrotesqueBurgess]

In all fairness, border collies and boston terriers have those same markings... :)

[onegoldfish]

Beautiful Am Staff. Now if you were in Denver and did the test he would be ok wouldn't he? He would not be taken from you and killed.  Thanks for posting.

[YvetteEifle]

GREAT Video!! Wow, who knew those test could be so... I think "blatantly wrong" are the words I'm looking for.... Thanks for sharing that with us!!

brittanynelson02 : did the test really say your Chi has Malamute in him??? That's so crazy! :)

[ForestBasenji]

What a beautiful dog!! Maybe on the bright side, since he is obviously shattered about the news of his CH being revoked, you can use his DNA results to get him entered in herding dog competitions :)

[JMHamilton1]

LOL, that's funny.

[BlitzkriegStaffords]

I don't know about the stupid test but GOD DAMN! that dog has a nice bed! LOL

[chakodogs]

LOL. Thank you. I made it myself!

[PowWowCowGirl]

rofl your dog was adopted by staffys,hes border collie all they way you can see it in his face! *turns off sarcasm*

[CarbonBlackout]

I can understand the Boston Terrier and the Bulldog, obviously, as all "pit bull" breeds are generally considered bulldogs and as Boston Terriers are close relatives of Amstaffs, but the Border Collie is just absurd. BCs and Amstaffs (and just bulldog and terrier breeds in general) come from very different backgrounds.

[brittanynelson02]

Beautiful Pit. Absolutely Gorgeous!!!

And these tests truly are crap. My Chihuahua Had Alaskan Malamute in him, lol!!!

Great video!

[TwoWebs]

Maybe it's BioTeck? I used Canine Breed Heritage DNA test and was very happy with the results. My dog looked maybe like a Chow, Lab and who knows what else. It turns out he secondary breeds are German Shorthair Pointer and Boxer. She has the boxer jaws and coloring. In the mix are a Standard Schnauzer and English Coonhound.

[hndcmusic]

I have a question. Is there anyway to register your dog in the AKC if you do not have papers stating that your dog is 100%AST? Ive done some research on my dog i.e breed standards, traits, and charachteristics but I have no proof..I was thinking of getting the DNA test conducted but I was kind of sceptical. If anyone can help me out with some more information it would be greatly appreciated. Tahnks

[linzliner21]

I won one of these DNA test kits at a silent auction at a dog event, and i did it to my GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG (PUREBRED with the AKC) and it came back telling me he was LAB, CHOW, and HUSKY........WHAT?! BS! These tests are bogus and i enjoyed this video...because when i got the test results i looked at my dog and did the same thing, "well i guess your a lab, my bad!" lol thanks for the laughs!

[doodnikswife]

and yes we get it, you have a masters in biochemistry, which honestly is more confusing than your dog's test results, because you should be able to figure this one out.

[chakodogs]

Well, Savvy is a HE as is stated in the video and the description. :) And the point of the entire video is to show how unreliable these tests are to determine breeds. Bostons and ASTs are distantly related. Border Collies and ASTs, not so much. One is a herding breed, the other is a terrier and a bulldog. If a Border Collie is related to an AST in your universe, then all breeds are related way back when (duh!) and these DNA breed tests are a waste of money.

[doodnikswife]

Hey you're the one who wasted your money testing a dog for no other reason than to prove the test wrong. Isn't working backwards from the result you want against basic scientific theory?

[chakodogs]

You seem confused. If I had been the one who designed the test, the Scientific Method (not "theory") would apply. However, all I did was TEST the validity of their test. You see, if you develop a test for cancer, and it actually yields "false positives" half the time, it's not all that reliable of a test, is it?

[doodnikswife]

Boston terriers would be used to modify a pit type breed and standardize coat, color, proportion. Border collie may have been added for a dash of much needed intellectual ability. Breeds are created by carefully selecting traits from other breeds. If she was dumb as a doorknob and peach colored, I would question the results more but she's black and white and her name is Savvy so, I don't see a problem with the results. The test is to tell you her heritage, not who her parents are.

[chakodogs]

Hmmm. work for the company? ASTs and Pit Bulls come in all different colors. Black and White, tan, blue, brown, etc. Many of Savvy's siblings were blue brindle. Your conclusion that because he's black and white he likely has some border collie in his somewhat immediate heritage is absurd (if you go far enough back, all dogs share common ancestry). These tests are supposed to tell breed mix, not heritage a thousand years back (even if that were case, BCs and ASTs, two very different lineages).

[TwoWebs]

Why is it good entertainment? Like I said before DNA never lies.

[asrotties]

crack me up! Well, that was money well spent. I guess it is good for entertainment value if nothing else. Congrats on your lovely dog anyway. Who cares what Bio Tech says. lol

[mpsportscollector]

What a bunch of retards! You can tell just by looking at her she's an American Staffordshire Terrier

[FUzupf]

HA! I love it! You're gonna have to revoke his award. My wife and I were seriously thinking about doing this for our Pit, but now, I'm not too sure

[poisanna]

I did the same test. Its cool.

[redchief16]

Did you call or contact the lab about their ridiculous results? I can't believe they don't have an established DNA test for Am Staffs.... but even if they don't, the results should have just indicated "unknown" or "unspecified" rather than Border Collie! Lovely dog, btw.

[TwoWebs]

Not true, this dog probably has a small percentage of those breeds. Probably grandparents or great-grandparents. DNA doesn't lie.

[lucidazul]

HOLD ON A SEC!!

Where's Savvy's lollipop?!

Every time I go to the doctors and get a TB test or a finger prick, etc, I get a lollipop. Savvy didn't get anything, that's just wrong, and he was so well behaved too.

LOL

[monki600]

so is there such a thing as amstaff dna? or will all dna testing of amstaffs come back as mentioned in the clip? its like finding out your adopted.., lies!

[Animalabusesucks1990]

These dogs began to find their way into America as early as 1870, where

they became known as Pit Dog, Pit Bull Terrier, later American Bull

Terrier, and still later as Yankee Terrier.

[Animalabusesucks1990]

The breed was originally called the Bull-and-Terrier Dog, Half and Half,

and at times Pit Dog or Pit Bull terrier. Later, it assumed the name in

England of Staffordshire Bull Terrier.

[Maciandubh53]

Congrats Savvy.

You will no longer be subjected to BSL.

You are now allowed to live ANYWHERE in the World.

It`s official.

You are NO longer "dangerous".

Gotta love those DNA tests.

Does this mean Savvy can now move to Denver Colorado?

[lucidazul]

Maciandubh53,

Love your comment, but...

Border Collies are actually banned in Italy along with approx 85 other breeds.

They have even banned the Australian Cattle Dog in parts of Australia.

Scary, huh?

[alwaysopen]

Well mannered dog = trained dog and I take it very few know how to do so.

The point about Amstaffs having more APBT blood introduced in breeding doesn't know a true breeder. That has been a distinct line until the fools of this day have introduced Amstaff blood into the APBT for size, blue coat and black nose. A red nose is a fed flag and draws BSLs. A 65# APBT is wrong, try under 60.

Every rescue shelter is full of dogs that are 1/2 APBT. That is a result of ugly hop the fence breeding folks.

[eos420]

Very interesting. And very well mannered dog. :)

[CampPitBull]

Best looking BC I've ever seen. :-)

[Dereksag14]

god that is a calm dog i couldnt get mine to just stay there for 5 mins unless hes asleep

[bahamutt99]

AmStaffs, APBTs and Bostons all came from the same root stocks like 100 years ago. Bostons are not mini AmStaffs. They split off from the bull-n-terrier family tree back in the early 1900s to 1920s, if I'm not mistaken, and AmStaffs became their own breed in 1936. (AmStaffs had more APBT blood added in the 1970s when the AKC re-opened the stud book for a while.) If a DNA test can't tell the difference by now, it never will. That's today's bull breed micro-history lesson. LOL

[Dereksag14]

WOW somebody on youtube actually knows what theyre talking about lol

[Animalabusesucks1990]

nice.

[devong15]

hes not a pitbull if hes a amstaff

[chakodogs]

Ah, the never ending debate. He is actually a dual registered UKC American Pit Bull Terrier and an AKC American Staffordshire Terrier, and if you can tell the difference better than UKC and AKC judges, more power to you! Thank you for the comment.

[FORDGT660]

you can look at your dog and tell he is a staff now if you look at true game fighting pits ADBA game bred ones you will see a big difference in chest and head also the back end

[chakodogs]

In my book I go over the gamebred dogs I've owned (ADBA, lines, etc.). Of course, there is more than just the ADBA out there (like the UKC) and I've even had dual registered ADBA-UKC dogs. So, what you're referring to is style of dog. That's different than being able to tell the difference between a champion UKC American Pit Bull Terrier and an AKC American Staffordshire terrier or even an ADBA dog (and there are triple registered dogs, as well!) Papers do not make the dog.

[Animalabusesucks1990]

the akc says the pitbull terriers are american staffs i posted the e-mail i got from them on some video on here(not this one) but if you guys want it ask akc what is a pitbull and they will send you a message.

[juniper8204]

"Pit Bull" isn't a breed of dog...it's a TYPE of dog...just like saying "shepherd"; there are many types of shepherds (German, Anatolian, Australian, etc.). American Pit Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, and sometimes Bull Terriers, Boxers, and American Bulldogs (look at any BSL outline and these breeds are usually also listed) are all considered to be "pit bulls" or "pit bull type dogs." I have four pit bulls: 3 APBT and one AmStaff.

[TheCaneCorso]

American Pit Bull Terriers is the pitbull dummy

[GoldZap]

American Pit Bull Terrier is a UKC recognized breed now. An Am Staff, though closely related, is classified as a different breed all together.

(juniper)

[nutsack666]

UKC has registered American Pit Bull Terriers for over 100 years. The UKC was established for the sole purpose of registering APBTs. Other breeds came later. Am Staff are registered with the AKC. At one point they were the same breed but theyve been seperate from true APBTs for so long they are a diff breed. In some peoples minds they are still the same breed, hell Am Staffs can be registered as APBTs with the UKC still and there are alot of APBT x Am Staff bloodlines with the UKC as well.

[nutsack666]

True APBTs are usually the ones you see at ADBA or AADR shows. There are a few other APBT game dog registries like Tom Garner's SDR and another one ran by an old dogman. Some American Bullies and Am Staffs are registered with the ADBA but they will never win any conformation titles in the show ring much less be shown at all. Its more of a game dog registry. Some might weight pull but thats about it.

[StymieBlymie]

I am very familiar with this DNA test and I'd like to point out a couple things. First, you were supposed to press the foam swab between the card and the flap and hold for ten seconds. You did not. Secondly, the BioPet test DOES NOT TEST FOR Am. Staffordshire Terrier. It's algorithm will search for and assign breeds that are in the database to what was detected. This was plain silly. A more realistic test would be to test a purebred that IS in their database and then see if it worked.

[chakodogs]

Thanks, as I have an M.S. in Biochemistry and Genetics, I'm somewhat familiar with DNA tests. If a test has true value, it should be able to produce accurate results regardless of the sample. If the sample is not one of the defined breeds, the test results should reflect that (i.e., undetermined). It certainly should not produce, as the primary breed, a breed like the Border Collie -- one that is quite unrelated to the American Staffordshire Terrier (the Boston, at least, is w/in bulldog family)

[TwoWebs]

"If a test has true value, it should be able to produce accurate results regardless of the sample"

The test was accurate. DNA tests don't lie.

"the test results should reflect that (i.e., undetermined). It certainly should not produce, as the primary breed, a breed like the Border Collie"

Actually it can if your does in fact have those breeds mixed in. The percentage of the mix is probably 10-12%. I've heard of boxers who looked purebred but hat corgi in some of their breed makeup.

[rozae]

In the 90's a breeder attempted to create natural bobtail Boxers. They began by breeding a Boxer to a Pembroke Welsh Corgi. The Steynmere Boxers website has info on the attempt and the resulting litters. There are to this day bobtail Boxers that have a touch of Corgi some generations back, though you wouldn't know it by looking at them. This could explain the purebred Boxer with Corgi ancestry.

[arpitbulladvocates]

hey, if BSL ever hits your town you now have "Proof" that it is not a Amstaff, or a dog commonily refered to as Pit bull, so you can get one....

[analkie]

Do I see agility champ on the rise ???

I must go along with Aquarius89, Savvy is a smooth coat BC, with funny ears.

[Staffdog360]

The test does make total sense except for the Border Collie, But Bull dogs and Boston Terriers are directly linked to Amstaffs, Amstaffs came from old fighting Bulldogs, and Boston Terriers came from minitureizing Amstaffs and ovbiously some mixing involved, I assume they just dont have a large enough database, or a sysophisticated enough system to fully determine the individual breed, they are more geared to find what breeds are in a mutt, rather then a purebred bloodlines are.

[Ten13Grl]

Um, yeah... Boston Terriers did *not* come from 'minitureizing' [sic] Amstaffs any more than Min Pins did from miniturizing Dobies. And Amstaffs are descended from Staffies (hence the 'staff' part of 'Amstaff') and Bull terriers (which are, admittedly, part bulldog).

[Staffdog360]

Boston terriers come from English Bulldogs, English Terriers, American Staffordshire terriers, And mostly Bullterriers, in 1891 the untited kennel club accepted them as a breed, they were called the boston bull terrier weighing an averege of 60 lbs, after fighting became against the law in 1951 the ukc accepted them as a breed called The Boston Terrier, downsizing the dogs to roughly 15 to 32 lbs, this is the Boston we know today,

[Ten13Grl]

I didn't mean to imply that there wasn't any connection between the two at all, but that your post made it seem as if someone looked at an Amstaff as was like, 'Hmm... I'd like me one of them only smaller!'[sic]

I was more than a bit tipsy the other night, and I missed the bit about 'obviously some mixing involved'. I apologize if I came off as arrogant and/or rude (which I know I did).

[bulldaisymom]

LMAO....Sorry this was just to funny. You sure he wasn't switched at birth? LMAO

[dobievsw]

Go buy that gorgeous dog some sheep to herd!

That is SO awesome!

[DxSQUARED2]

LOL! This is too cute.

[issippi13]

HA! Savv is georgous. How could you not see the Border Collie in him! LOL

Great work..Again!

[Dundreggen]

haha I have been telling ppl for a while now that these tests are bunk. The data bases are not large enough, and its all statistics anyway. (what SNPs does your dog have that are most in common with what breed...)

Thanx for posting

[Aquarius89]

I own 3 Border Collies. Maybe Savvy is a smooth coat, eh?

This tests are just big scams. Sad, really! There are people out there who WILL believe them.

[lazygawker]

Dawn, maybe there's border collie in that high-priced kibble? (Oh I'm just gross, sorry.) Well, I guess now we know what value those DNA tests. I'm going to test Ally (gsd) to see if there's any pit bull in her.

[Okielamomma]

LOL Poor Dawn and Sav!

[njhorsegirl]

You should know that boston terriers are actually directly related to am staffs. I'm sure there is some link with the border collie as well. Most dog breeds, especially american ones, are closely related to other breeds and that would explain your results. You also have to take into account that dna contains thousands of years of history, not just the last few generations. Beautiful dog though :)

[chakodogs]

I do have a masters in biochemistry and genetics. :) Border Collie is in an entirely different classification (herding). Based on your logic, all domestic dogs are related and therefore these tests are useless. The tests are supposed to distinguish between the "grays" in the DNA to hone in on markers that can differentiate two purebred dogs. Heck, Boxers and Bulldogs are closely related (Boxers are a bulldog breed), but the test proports to be able to distinguish Boxers from Bulldogs!

[ravendarknessa]

yeah I was planning on testing my stray pitbull mix, but ah well.. Thank you for the heads up and I have to say your dog is SOOOO handsome... (mine is same colors but not as even and pretty markings).