Please',...if i may, might i ask any' mormons out there, just but one question,......how do 'you' get to heaven???
The truth about what mormons belive, is that it is thier Works' that get them to heaven', not Jesus Christ. I say this because mormons belive Jesus Christ Only "HELP'S" them get to heaven, where and when they fall short on there 'Works' .
mormonism is anti-christ.
The truth is that Jesus Christ IS" the ONLY WAY TO OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN.
@MustangSally6469 I was wondering why my responses weren't coming up. Then I realised the uploader vets the responces. So much for freedom of speech, I guess it only counts if people think as u do.
Bottom line is Joseph Smith took 90% the temple rituals and symbols from Masonary and incorporated them into a religion that he invented in order to gain power,wealth and many wives. To the LDS leaders its a business of dollars and cents....
I wish people could chill. I'm not LDS but they don't harm me, just knock on my door time to time and I ask the hardest questions I know. To me it is like slaves leaving Mississippi to get to Canada, there are conductors that point north or transport people. The drinking gourd was a big secret. It wasn't safe for most to know what it meant to have a dipper at your front door meant It was a safe house. It was a secret, not to be discussed openly.
The Christian world uses the handclasp in marriage rites/ordinance even today. The marriage handclasp represents love, unity, equality and oath/vow between husband and wife as the marriage begins. There are many examples in art which depicts a husband and wife with their right hands joined in the dextrarum iunctio handclasp. It is the symbol of a marriage that transcends and grave and is often depicted on gravestones and sarcophagus.
“Nevertheless I am continually with thee: thou hast holden me by my right hand. Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me to glory.” (Psalms 73:23-24)
I really hope you are an honest man with integrity and will show what I have just posted to show people the truth. I don't expect you to, but our Lord would favor you and begin to forgive you if you did. You have an opportunity to repent and show the truth. Now is the time of your redemption. Seize it.
The depictions of Christ "harrowing of hell" clearly show the handclasp by Christ is a major part of this motif. Some of these depictions of Christ's descent into limbo, show the handclasp made with right hands with the thumb resting on the middle of the hand as though the redeemed was feeling the nail mark in Christ's hand, and as though Christ was showing the wounds which had brought about salvation.
Mentioned earlier in Galatians 2:9, these are the "Right Hands of fellowship. Jeremiah 31:32 compares the hand clasp to entering into a covenant with God. Both are appropriate symbols for the temple because of the covenants made therein.
@cevansroxy I approved everyone of your (BS MORmON) posts. You are totally full of CRAP as you try to justify MORmON/ masonic secret handshakes as an aspect of Xtianity. You are WRONG. and any one with any sense knows it. & you are a MORmON !
@carkunkula what r u tryin to get at in ur video that u believed in it once then didn't, that ur a back stabber, that ur antimormon, that u take things that r sacred to others &exploit them, that ur uncomfortable in what you felt about the church, that u didn't agree with your bishop and left the church mad, that maybe u were excommunicated &bitter and decide to make movies about the church. Either u believe in a religion or u don't but why makefun of something you use to believe in.
As stated it is the custom to extend the right hand as a gesture or in token of recognition, agreement, reconciliation and fellowship from which the handshake expresses. It was also used by the early Christians to recognize other fellow believers.
Epiphanius explains: "The hand is held out, in greeting, of course, and a tickling stroke is made in the palm of the hand, so as to indicate secretly that the visitor is of the same religion as they
(Epiphanius of Salamis, Against Heresies XXVI, 4, 2)
“And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.” (Galatians 2:9)
“Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain, exalt the voice unto them, shake the hand, that they may go into the gates of the nobles.” (Isaiah 13: 2)
What's with the priesthood handshakes, I am a Mormon, I have the Araonic Priesthood, I have never had to give any handshake besides the normal friendly one you give to all people.
Biblical christianity knows nothing of this secret handshake, sacred underwear, temple-ceremony. This is what happens when mortals add to the alreadt revealed, canonical Word of god.
@baptistabro " Biblical christianity knows nothing of this secret handshake, sacred underwear, temple-ceremony."
actually it does, because the bible warns ppl about EVIL & EVIL WORKS, and this Masonic / LDS BS /anti Xtian practices are exactly what the bible is trying to warn ppl about. but you are certainly correct in that Christ NEVER advocated FOUL Dark things like this, and those that say He did put their EVIL words in God's mouth to blaspheme Him. MORmONISM is EVIL & A LIE.
@baptistabro Mormons are a cult organization. They pretend to be a Christian denomination in order to hide the true (but bizarre) aspects of their religion. It's all about Joseph & he was a delusional old horn dog if there ever was one. I tell people to do the research yourself. It's out there & some of the info is even LDS approved literature. Joseph changed his story & lied to get what he wanted. No better than David Koresh.
The most loving thing we can do for God and for man, just as Yeshua our Saviour did, is to speak the truth, unvarnished and plain spoken, with warnings for those who oppose it. Thus as an ex-Mormon I have written a book called The Mormon Deception, available for free download at candlecrossministry.co.uk
Some things are so personal they are not for public consumption. Ex 1: discussing with my brother personal weakness for self improvement. I don't want the world to hear the conversation, but the results are profoundly positive. Ex 2: Love making with my wife is a central act of devotion to each other. It is not up for casual judgement from strangers. It is sacred between her and I. Temple worship is similar. Our devotion to God runs deep. It is not to be fodder for strangers to scorn or judge.
@Z8nate So all you haters can be word thugs all you want. Reasonable people can understand that ANY religion can be made to sound silly. Virgin births, talking bushes, time warping prophets. Belittling the Church only serves to make your mind and manners seem as if they had been cultivated in a barn. I challenge you to rise above it and do as Jesus taught John 13:35: "By this shall men know ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another."
@Z8nate "Some things are so personal they are not for public consumption."
then keep your LDS BS to yourself ! including keeping your POS BOM out of my face, stop jamming your POS LDS religion in ppl's faces which would include standing down your full time world wild harassment army of missionaries. typical MORmON antics on your part! LDS jam MORmONISM into ppls faces, then when your keystone(BS)temple ceremony comes up you blame others for bringing it up.U two faced back stabbing prick!
@egretsch1 sacred to who ? asshole nut case MORmONS? like you ! why is it OK for MORmONS to blindside & threaten ppl with this insane shit? is that kind of criminal activity *sacred* to you as a MORmON ? your leaders should all be in prison !
@junior801 yah just overlook all the LDS crime, the mass murder, mass molestation of the LDS temple ceremony , 2002 olympic bid scandal, cal prop 8 reporting violations, etc and MORmONS are squeaky clean.
@carkunkula lol who said mormons are all clean? NO ONE. haha. look at christians, weslyans, catholics, and eevery religion... each have killers/molesters/etc...every religion has it's ups and downs. the mormons are just the ones who get smashed the most for some odd reason. oh btw. that lds ceremony u r talkng abt is of the FLDS community. NOT THE LDS. thanks yo
@junior801 "lol who said mormons are all clean? NO ONE. haha. look at christians, weslyans, catholics, and eevery religion... each have killers/molesters/etc.."
and MORmONISM has a pervert criminal molestor loser for a founder ! & its been bearing evil fruit & LIES ever since !
@carkunkula AHA!!! O MY!!... that's not the LDS silly.. that's the FLDS. 2 different religions. the FLDS practice plural marriage and all that stuff until today. but not the LDS. I kno kinda confusing.. but it just bothers me when people get us mixed up... :/
@junior801 I dont have anything mixed up. FLDS did not fund the 2002 Olympic bid bribery scandal.
Mainstream LDS still practices polygamy too. They reserve the right to nullify by decree any LDS temple sealing, & they do for reg. members all the time, as well LDS choose to leave in force the POLYGAMOUS temple marriages of MORmON founders Joe Smith, Brig Young & cohorts. THAT is practicing polygamy, despite all the BS LDS INC denials. MORmONS are hopeless phonies &LIARS.
@junior801 HA HA UH YES you mainstream MORmONS DO CURRENTLY practice polygamy,
your church believes in eternal marriage, TWO OF YOUR CURRENT ASSpsotHOLES , OAKS & NELSON are sealed to MORE THAN ONE WOMEN/ ETERNAL WIFE. THAT IS POLYGAMY BY SIMPLEY APPLYING YOUR OWN LDS CONVENTIONS. HOW COME YOU DONT UNDERSTAND YOUR OWN RELIGION, STUPID ASS ? MORmON!
@carkunkula that's called normal mister. lol when your wife DIES.. then u can find another. it's not nice to swear. and it's not nice to put others down. and keep calling me mormon.. I LOVE IT <3 how did u find all this time to put such hate on the LDS faith? I just find it sad others have nothing else to do with their lives aha
@junior801 QUOTE "that's called normal mister. lol when your wife DIES.. then u can find another. it's not nice to swear. &it's not nice to put others down. &keep calling me mormon.. I LOVE IT <3 how did u find all this time to put such hate on the LDS faith? I just find it sad others have nothing else to do with their lives aha"
Mocking MORmONISM is time well spent, outing LDS EVIL is GOOD,you'd have us doing secret handshakes for godhood instead. like thats not a waste of time! MORmON!
@carkunkula oucchh... well Jesus taught not to Persecute others. I still don't think it's nice. This is not going well... But you have your choices.. I have mine. Take care and I hope all goes well with you... I <3 Jesus! lol thats all that matters :)
@junior801 Mormon Jesus is a polygamist, like his dad-god, who was once a man and became a god among zillions. Thus M'ism is polytheistic,too. The "Polygamy Revelation" is unaltered and waiting to be expressed. Can't say that of the BofM with 4000 alterations. M'ism stopped polygamy in c1915, not 1890 and only then because they had no options. But they will again. the FLDS is the purest expression of M'ism, it adheres to all Joe's lies, including "milking the beast" thru fraud, welfare, etc.
Thats right buddy. Keep fighting. We are growing bigger and bigger and satan will rage in your heart more and more until you are consumed. Let go of hate and be wise. The Book of Mormon changed my life and I invite you to read it. MITT ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT!!!
@sirjamez41 "Thats right buddy. Keep fighting." DONT WORRY I WILL NEVER STOP
"We are growing bigger & bigger &satan will rage in your heart more & more until you are consumed."
A BIGGER & BIGGER WHAT? A BIG BALL OF CRAP IN UTAH? YOU HAVE YET TO AMOUNT TO ANYTHING! & YOU NEVER WILL! YOUR CLAIMS OF BEING A RESTORATION OF TRADITIONAL XTIANITY WHEN YOU CANT EVEN KEEP UP EVEN TRADITIONAL XTIANITY ARE AN ABSOLUTE FARCE LIKE SOME 1 IN A WHEELCHAIR CLAIMING TO OUT DUNK M. JORDAN. MORmON!
" The Book of Mormon changed my life" Just because you led a crap life (probably pissed alot of people off in the process) and now have joined a dumb cult doesn't mean it's true.
Now you want to piss off people by pushing a cult with dumb comments.
Jehovahs Witnesses convert lots of people like you and they are a lying cult too.
You could say the Book of Mormon changed my life too and the church that prints it is a fraud.
What SO many people never put together is the simple fact that Jesus Himself said that John the Baptist was the last of the great Prophets. Anyone that comes after him is to be denounced as a false prophet, like the Pedophile Muhammad, Ellen G. White (SDA), Joseph Smith the Liar (Mormon), L. Ron Hubbard (Scientology)...ALL of them are BS and need to be avoided at all costs.
Google "Mormon Apologetics: Losing the Battle & Not Knowing it." It was not written by a Latter-Day Saint Christian. Rather, an anti-LDS Evangelical scholar pieces together both sides of the argument & admits that the anti-LDS criticism is lacking & has been refuted. He also notes how LDS Apologists' refutations have been met with silence by the critics.
Mormons are so dishonest about what they believe. I have exposed the mormon temple endowment on my channel. I have a recording of their endowment ritual.
@batterdown I leave most pro LDS posts up because they are a dazzling display of MORmON idiocy & deceit, but I have no obligation to put up with your blatant baseless LDS BS spin, lie, deny tactics.
Thank GOD for the internet. I used to ask my mormon friends about the handshake and the women told me that there wasn't one.. The men said they couldn't discuss it. I heard ONLY men do handshakes. Also, when you get married the new couple gets NEW names. The husband knows his new name and HER new name. She only knows HER name. Something to do with calling her to his planet after they die. Oh,yeah.. they think that they get their own planet.. hahaha
@Shutterbug1000 the women do the secret handshakes too, they have them so scared that they lied about it which is exactly what MORmONS are supposed to do, with that in mind, how can anyone take that dumb ass MORmON liar Mitt Romney seriously when he says he wont let his MORmONISM effect his decisions as US pres. what an idiot!
@carkunkula .... is perverse, ignorant and uninformed. It IS the church of JESUS CHRIST...not Joseph Smith. If Jesus Christ INDEED did present himself to Joseph Smith then Mormon's believe in the RIGHT Jesus. If not, then leave the Mormons alone. They will come to naught...a house divided cannot stand... If it is the RIGHT Jesus then...
@batterdown QUOTE "carkunkula .... is perverse, ignorant &uninformed. It IS the church of JESUS CHRIST...not Joseph Smith." Really? & how did I end up so misinformed after over 30 years in your POS
*church* /CULT, after being temple endowed & serving an LDS mission.
I should feel really important because some HUGE organization has spent million$ on me
to infiltrate the MORmON church &make sure I was lied to at every turn. OR MAYBE UR JUST A LYING POS MORmON! the #1 reason I quit LDS
@Menokokoro "In your description, you call the church abusive....what about the church is abusive? "
EVERYTHING! The LDS fiends demanded that I go on a mission to sell their BOM scam. they took me into their temple, made me undress, touched my inappropriately with out my invitation & or approval, THAT IS A CRIME! they made me promise to give them everything I would ever have &swore me to secrecy over it with death threats. BLINDSIDE ON BLINDSIDE, CRIME on CRIME. PURE EVIL !
@carkunkula No one is "demanded to serve a mission". Perhaps your parents encouraged you to serve a mission. What is sad is that you ever went to the temple. I feel bad for people who tell half of the truth.
@carkunkula They put a gun to your head? Held your family hostage? Stood outside your house with burning torches? How did they force you into the temple against your will?
hmmm.. i was a mormon for 20 years and i never got to learn any kickass handshakes! only when in the hood.. my negro friends must be higher mormons than i was! LoL
@Brendan1246 Well thats easy, really ! Joe Smith got on this campbellite restoration kick. He read the bible & saw temples in there. so he wanted to build one for himself to be better than other churches, so he goaded his followers into it . when the kirtland temple was done, they said hey this sure is nice, what do we do with it? Not Judiac rituals because those are to prepare for the coming of the Messiah & that already happened with Jesus CHRIST for those who claim to believe the NT.
@Brendan1246 so the LDS temple ended up being a HUGE Monument to JOE SMITH & MORmON idiocy. so joe ripped of the masonic lodge for the New LDS temple ceremony , which is kind of funny since it is Gnostic & not Christian at all. to avold any scrutiny of his idiocy Joe just made the thing secret. but the secret is out , & Now MORmONS look pretty damn stupid, just as they should ! MORmONS!
@carkunkula So the whole point of MORmONism is a fraud. That I already knew. Thanks for reinforcing it. Any MORmONS reading this, please read up on what you believe.
@Brendan1246 because you have to be worthy to go in the temple. I am LDS and I can't go in because I am not worthy, it is not discrimination, we simply have requirements to enter.
Their founder searched for treasure by putting a stone in a hat and looking at it. He supposedly translated their holy book in this way from behind a curtain. Funny shit.
I think with all the opinions out there it can become hard to see clearly, it is very much like when Peter walked on the water and sank when he beheld the stormy waters around him but when we focus on the Saviour we will have peace. I believe the strom will grow greater but let us put our trust in the Lord. The Church is saving me and I know through the Holy Ghost that it is true. Need I really listen to a man tell me it is not. I doubt the Church would destroy any man. He himself yes.
Mormonism is ruining my life right now. I recently told my wife (whom I love very much), that I never had a testimony ("god" never gave me one) and that I am leaving the church. She says regrets marrying me and that I am only half a man now....we have two young children. I feel in shambles and misunderstood.
@miljo34 I am sorry for your loss. I know how it feels. when I left mormonism in 2007 I left a job and my family. my whole community knew and I ended up leaving Utah altogether.
my fam and I are on talking terms now, but it took a couple years.
thats the thing about mormonism, you cant simply leave. lots of exmos end up giving up things they shouldnt have to give up. Mormonism is a religion with cult origins, and this is all just those origins manifesting themselves.
isnt it obvious that mormons have the same rituals as the freemasons?? arent the symbols on the mormon buildings from the masons too?? man, what kind of excuses will i hear from the mormons now??!!! this can not be a "church" of god!! why cant mormons see this??? it's as easy as 2+2=4 !!!!
@Sephuskal U R only allowed to express yourself here to show what a DUMB ASS you really are. you have NO 1st ammendment right in this PRIVATE forum, STUPID ASS! I am going to prove it ! Your last post is DELETED & there is NOTHING you can do about it, because you were not exercising a right.
Your understanding of the constitution is as LAME as your understanding of your POS temple ceremony! You MORmONS are so damn dumb, you just shoot off your mouths when you have NO clue! MORmONS !
Oh I see. So you don't have an original thought just the ability to copy and paste and try to insult some one. The biggest problem with AntiChrists like you, is that you spend all day worshipping your self and making some false image out of your pug faces, so that you actually believe you are higher than God. You are your own God. It's incredibly hilarious to me that some one who portrays a sense of logic on youtube such as your self, is really to stupid to tie his own retarded sandals.
by Sephuskal "Oh I see.So you don't have an original thought just the ability to copy &paste &try to insult some one.The biggest problem with AntiChrists like you, is that you spend all day worshipping your self &making some false image out of your pug faces, so that you actually believe you are higher than God.You are your own God. It's incredibly hilarious to me that some one who portrays a sense of logic on youtube such as your self, is really to stupid to tie his own retarded sandals."
@Sephuskal "Oh I see. So you don't have an original thought just the ability to copy and paste and try to insult some one."
You got that right, THAT IS what YOU see, its all you can see, you stupid ass retard!
"The biggest problem with AntiChrists like you, is that you spend all day worshipping your self"
Yah if only we could spend all day doing secret MORmON handshakes, doing Joe Smith brand baptizing for the dead & worshipping PERVERT Joe Smith instead ! like retarded MORmONS!
@Sephuskal "The biggest problem with AntiChrists like you, is that you spend all day worshipping your self and making some false image out of your pug faces, so that you actually believe you are higher than God. You are your own God."
What a great attempted *Indictment* coming from a retard MORmON -someone who really believes they will become a god by doing secret handshakes because Pervert MORmON Joe Smith said so!
@Sephuskal "The biggest problem with AntiChrists like you, is that you spend all day worshipping your self &making some false image out of your pug faces, so that you actually believe you are higher than God. It's incredibly hilarious to me that some one who portrays a sense of logic on youtube such as your self, is really to stupid to tie his own retarded sandals."
My sandals must be in the same place as all the images I made of my pug face, same place as the gold plates, NO WHERE!
@Sephuskal " It's incredibly hilarious to me that some one who portrays a sense of logic on youtube such as your self, is really to stupid to tie his own retarded sandals."
MORmONS talking about logic ..... well dogs bark at cars too, but that does NOT mean they understand anything about them. MORmON!
@Sephuskal "what faith are you?" why would it matter, MORmON? (I know MORmONISM is BS! thats enough to SO EASILY best you!) Are you in need of some straws to grasp at? Go ahead & fire up your MORmON Burning Bosom & use it to discern what my religion really is! Then attack away ! MOCK my false prophets all you can. Mock my counterfeit scripture. Mock my harem of added wives done in the name of god. Mock my phantom gold plates! Come on MORmON! get with the program! MORmON !
@carkunkula LOL wow. Issues Much. Just thought since me and everyone else that stands up for their first ammendment rights on the tube here, are taking the Hail of Bullets, Cowards like you would dare come out from behind your wizardof Oz curtain and put your beliefs on the line. But I can see you're too scared to do that. & I don't blame you. Cuz if you named your religion it would easily be shredded by any one who is in the know" and I can tell your an AntiChrist anyway by the way You act lol.
@Sephuskal You have NO 1st Ammendment rights on youtube,MORmON STUPID ASS! especially at someone else's site. its a private forum where you have been granted a privilege. your expressing yourself on youtube &at my site can be revoked at any time. But you got confused &thought that opportunity constituted a right. Leave it to MORmONS to playup their persecution complex &improperly invoke the US constitution that they dont really understand just like their own stupid temple ceremony! MORmON!
@Sephuskal yah, go ahead &blabber off your crap spewing MORmON mouth about the constitution &free speech just like you know what you are talking about, you insane MORmON idiot. Fact is LDS Inc had hundreds of videos that were unfavorable to MORmONISM removed from Youtube, &they did it by BUYING Influence with Youtube, a proven LDS tactic, thats 1 way I KNOW 1st hand that there are NO1st ammendment rights on Youtube, but Ujust go ahead & bluster away like the LDS ass clown that U really are!
@Sephuskal REPOST "LOL wow.Issues Much.Just thought since me & everyone else that stands up for their first ammendment rights on the tube are taking the Hail of Bullets, Cowards like you would dare come out from behind your wizardof Oz curtain and put your beliefs on the line. But I can see you're too scared to do that. & I don't blame you. Cuz if you named your religion it would easily be shredded by any one who is in the know" and I can tell your an AntiChrist anyway by the way You act lol."
@carkunkula C;monnow. Don't be cranky carky. tell us what you believe. would you bear your testimony of Jesus Christ? Tell us how much you love and appreciate him
@Sephuskal why should my love or dislike of anything matter to you? except that you dont know what you are talking about & when I say so it rocks your very shaky world & its crappy LDS belief system. A real "Jesus" does not want love or adoration, He makes it a point to set pple free as He says that your MORmON *Jesus* is an asshole, much like you! Imagine that, That is already more than a brain load for a MORmON, so dont expect any more, its already more than you can handle! MORmON!
@Sephuskal I dont... I dont .... I dont get into those details, to paraphrase Ballard, especially not with a MORmON. Your bogus MORmON *logic* is also noted & I wont have you putting words in my mouth around here.
@Sephuskal "Just thought since me and everyone else that stands up for their first ammendment rights on the tube here, are taking the Hail of Bullets,"
OH, OH, you are such a Hero, standing in the Hail of bullets for your 1 st ammendment rights here on youtube! There should be additional verses about you written for the Star Spangled Banner, America, & The Battle Hymn of the Republic. I can only hope to someday meet a man a tenth as great as you think you are! MORmON! DUMBASS!
@carkunkula Well then you get in the lime light richard. tell us your religious beliefs. WHat do you believe about God.. And what may or may not happen when we die.
@Sephuskal Unlike many MORmONS, some people dont feel compelled to get in the Limelight &show their face on the internet & shoot off their mouth while not having any clue what they are talking about & having fantasies about being some kind of movie star, like the dumb bitches MORmON hunnies or MrNirom.
I earned my beliefs about what may or may not happen after death, MORmONS
dont know! they just take the word of some other MORmON who does not know either & lose their money over it !
@Sephuskal I did put my beliefs on the line ! & they did get shredded, by anyone who knew much of anything, just like you said. That is why I no longer put any stock in MORmON doctrine, because my religion is MORmONISM ! I just no longer believe any of it. I never *married* a teen or other men's wives, ESPECIALLY in the name of God, NEVER forged scripture, so IF I am an Anti Christ your Joe Smith is FAR WORSE than Satan! &thats the foundation of your church! So, go ahead, trash my church!
@Sephuskal what a perfect demonstration of your total lack of intelligence. most people could figure out why your post was reposted to another account on their own. But even as I explained it right in comments, you still couldnt get it ! MORmON! and you expect others to respect your research & claims on what the templar tradition really means relative to xtianity.
It's easy for people to Mock Loving LDS, and defile their sacred things. Easier than other groups who would kill you for it. God will not be mocked. "Father forgive them they know not what their dumb asses are doing."
@Sephuskal Oh dont worry, we know your MORmON heart is really full of HATE, BLOOD LUST, & MURDER just as your MORmON scripture, MORmON history & MORmON temple ceremony so fully illustrate. We dont buy into MORmON two faced back stabbing phony calls for brotherhood at all. We know its all just a MORmON tactic just to lure people in &then put a MORmON knife in their back.
Dont worry, in a crunch the LDS temple penalties will be executed on those who subscribed to them, & not on the innocent.
Hand shakes and all the signs people wonder about LDs were discovered in Solomons temple by the templars and transferred to the Masons. God is the same yesterday today and tomorrow. LDS is a restoration. Plain and simple
oh come on mormons. your temples are not a secret anymore. too many temple goers, temple workers, and exmormons have shared the TRUTH about mormon temple worship rituals. Forget the secrets. forget mormonism. God doesn't need secrets. secrets are for those who fear other men. get away from this bull-honkey of a religious cult. It is not biblical. it is the hoax of a 19th century man named Joseph Smith. mormons are good people. mormonism is the fraud. the people are great people.
mormons do believe in secret handshakes to get into heaven...Mormons think God is some kind of secret society leader...God needs to use silly handshakes? did the mormon God not have enough "teenage years on his planet when he was a man?" so now the mormon God wants to use secret handshakes to get people into heaven?
wow...and these hand shakes are exactly like masonic hand shakes.
@momoboy2010 MORmONS are totally stuck in a brain dead ultra anal retentive Old Testament mode. LDS totally miss Christ's message that God is fully capable of looking at a persons heart to evaluate them & that mankind is to be liberated from the brain dead rote ways of the OT. MORmONS would be nailing Christ back to the cross. "He did not know the secret Handshake! " STUPID ASS MORmONS!
I don't know why mormons continue to think that their exposed temple rituals are the product of lies. The information the public now has about the LDS temples and their secret rituals comes from LDS members themselves who have discovered the real LDS fraud.
The truth about the LDS fraud is coming from within the mormon church itself!
I am glad that thousands of mormons every year are realizing the truth about the LDS fraud.
@momoboy2010 If you believed in God, You would believe that God is the same always. Masons derived from Templars, who got their info from digging in the temple Mount. solomons Temple. The Ordinances discovered there explain just fine the similarities with LDS ordinance. (Not the same but similar.) & if you did any History on Joseph Smith Jr. You would see that he was using two essentials in the endowment at the Kirtland temple, 5 years before he was exposed to Masonic influences. U serve Scratch
@Sephuskal thanks for so carefully laying out the trail that ends at NOWHERE for the MORmON religion. You might have scored on the MORmON- Masonic-Templar linkage, cherish that thought, too bad you dont know enough about the Templar tradition to know that the Templar connection to Solomons temple is pure mocking Lore/Myth. Its where the MORmONS get seperated from the real scholars. The rest could be told to you, but you think you are so clever, you figure it out ! MORmON !
@Sephuskal "If you believed in God,You would believe that God is the same always. Masons derived from Templars, who got their info from digging in the temple Mount. solomons Temple. The Ordinances discovered there explain just fine the similarities with LDS ordinance. (Not the same but similar.) & if you did any History on Joseph Smith Jr. You would see that he was using two essentials in the endowment at the Kirtland temple, 5 years before he was exposed to Masonic influences. U serve Scratch
@Sephuskal yah, I just reposted your BS post on to my account so you cant pull it if & when you realize just how damn stupid you really are. You are doing a lot of boastful MORmON style blabbering for some one who cant tell their head from their ass, not that there is a lot of difference in your case. MORmON !
@carkunkula, god didn't abandon us, after Jesus and the apostles died, the church went downhill. Nobody knew the truth till a boy pray for the church he should join
How? Meaning I gave my reasons why they were apostles. How are they not apostles? You argue that only those who physically walked with Christ can be. Is it really so impossible for God to call other apostles? He called Moses as a prophet didn't he? Why not apostles? Why would we not have leaders today as our forefathers did back then? It doesn't make sense for God to abandon us. Why is it so impossible to believe that there are prophets and apostles in this day and age?
Notice the language used commonly about the Church or any religion on the internet to either mock or discredit it. Even God's name is taken in vain hundreds of times on a daily basis. Is it any wonder why we want to keep some sacred things from getting soiled? You would never bring your mom's favorite lace tablecloth outside to sit on. It stays inside and safe and used only when you're fairly certain the dinner guests won't spill on it. You call it secret, I call it preventive measures.
@Abish424 you are correct blasphemy is common place currently
& there is no greater example of it than LDS INC execs who take upon themselves the title of apostle of Christ & then say they are a special witness of Christ.
@carkunkula that would be true if they weren't really apostles of Christ. But the fact is that they are truly called of God. Christ preached love towards enemies and friends alike, service, helping others, morality, and basically just how to be good people. The apostles teach the same and more importantly ACT on those teachings without pay. If anyone deserves the title, apostle of Christ, it's them.
@carkunkula that would be true if they weren't really apostles of Christ. But the fact is that they are truly called of God. Christ preached love towards enemies and friends alike, service, helping others, morality, and basically just how to be good people. The apostles teach the same and more importantly ACT on those teachings without pay. If anyone deserves the title, apostle of Christ, it's them.
@Abish424 they are NOT apostles of Jesus Christ. NOT even close! THEY are BLASPHEMERS & VERY POOR IMPOSTERS! Christ's apostles rubbed shoulders with Christ. There are dogs closer to Jesus than these sickening blaspheming phonies. Their only real witness of Christ will be when the LORD finally sends them to HELL FOR LYING about things.
@carkunkula do you want to blow your other foot too? or did you already?
"It doesn't make sense for God to abandon us" that is your grand MORmON declaration of God's sensibilities, OF COURSE MORmONISM also teaches that God did in fact abandon "us" for 1700 years until he could get Joe to fix the "great apostacy" with the "great MORmON restoration". Do you see any problem there? any contradiction? any MORmON logic in action? Remember this is YOUR doctrine!
What a bull-crap video. All ordinances are symbolic and those that aren't pure and "have not ears to hear" do not understand the true meaning of those symbols. I know the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is God's church, and I know the temple is a sacred place. Shame on you for showing sacred things to those that aren't ready to understand.
too bad that in the blindness of your supreme MORmON arrogance you can't see that your MORmON god is satan.
The real creator of the universe put a complete DNA blueprint code in every cell of your body, then you blaspheme Him & pose Him as dependent on stupid secret handshakes to protect his kingdom& demanding a pervert joe LDS brand baptism for all his children to get into Heaven. You know nothing of HIm, then you try to preach to me. You are a MORmON ASS! you dont understand anything!
@gord1921 yah MORmON Church probably is the true church of god.... as your MORmON god is Satan. Secret Handshakes, blood oaths of vengeance, Mock throat slashing ....that leads to real throat slashing, Pervert Joe brand baptisms even for the dead. that certainly is not Christ's way or teachings. have fun worshipping satan,but dont expect the rest of us to respect you & your MORmON BS stories about your cult being Christian. MORmON !
@gord1921 If you had any brain at all you could see how your LDS temple tokens & symbols are patently anti christian, carry overs from the anti christian gnostic rituals they were stolen from. you will NEVER see it as long as your filled with Nibley & FARMS LDS garbage, & that suits me just fine, just dont expect me to not make fun of you! MORmON !
secret hand shakes are all over masonry and satanic rituals... Joseph's incorporation of these pathetic rituals may have been his ultimate disgrace...even more than his secret polygamy practices from his wife.
Who the hell can honestly say that they will greet God with secret masonic handshakes? This is absolutely pathetic! No wonder so many mormons are leaving that cult! The LDS needs to get rid of this pathetic temple bull crap... it is so obviously WRONG
@momoboy2010 "The LDS needs to get rid of this pathetic temple bull crap"
but it is at the very heart of their blasphemic MORmON essence, after all they are a product of Pervert Blasphemer Joseph Smith. Ironically it was Gordon Hinckley who gutted the MORmON temple ceremony in the attempt to make it more palatable & more marketable. Any decent person found in MORmONISM needs to reject all LDS BS. For the rest of the MORmONS the title of MORmON is quite fitting.
Nice editing in the beginning. Really honest of you to just play the same things over and over and not the actual interview and his responses. It is interesting that critics of the Mormon church use dishonesty, half truths and tricks to frame the Mormon church in a negative light.
Mormon leaders are not paid, it does not matter how much the church takes in, leaders don't benefit based on the church's collection, unlike clergy from other Christian denominations. They are serving God.
Too bad everyone can not be as *honest* as MORmONS; blindsiding temple initiates with blood oaths, lying about LDS history & doctrine, funding olympic scandals etc. Book deals alone are multi million dollar propositions for top LDS execs. Hinckley became filthy rich as LDS pres. You are such a damn liar/ fool. MORmON!
Your rants show what type of dishonest, morally corrupt person that you are.
Fact #1.
Hinkley was OK financially before he become the church president and you have absolutely no proof, no financial information, not even a scrap of evidence that shows Hinkley benefited financially from his position. Saying things that are untrue is lying. You have just shown yourself to be a liar.
Fact#2.
There is no blood oath in the temple.
Fact#3.
There are no LDS "execs". Name them or you are a liar.
If you are to make claims against another religion it is your duty if you have any honor at all to back up your assertions with fact and evidence.
1. You claimed that Hinkley got rich off of being the president of the LDS church. It is not true. He was wealthy before he became the prophet., You made a claim, it wasn't true. That makes you either a liar or just ignorant. Either way you are not being truthful with your assertions.
I already covered this, MORmON. So his pre Pres wealth means he did not profit while being LDS Pres? Based on what? Your idiotic MORmON assertions?
WHat you MORmONS dont understand is that the burden of proof is on you. YOU are the one asking people for money & time to save all the dead. I have not asked for any money in the name of God. I am going to be like you now. Give me money or God is going to damn you.
You are the one making ludicrous accusations. Smearing a religion and the leader of the religion without proof. Ignoring the facts of where and how the leader of the Mormon church made his money. Slandering and lying without proof.
The fact is LDS INC admitted giving 2 million $ to SLOC, the money used to fund the 2002 oly bribe scandal. LDS INc. never IDed who authorized the funds, which means it falls on CEO Hinckley, who did it anyway. I guess you dont understand corporate protocol.
Its a documented matter. Your choice to be ignorant of it does not disprove.
Your Olympic scandal Mormon church conspiracy theory is laughable. I would love to see your evidence that the church gave the money to the SLCOC knowing that any of it was going to be used for bribery. I think for the benefit of your own integrity you should show this proof. Let's see this proof and the sources.
If you can't show any then I think everyone can see what type of person you are.
You MORmONS teach that MORmON temple ordinances are critcial to exaltation & salvation even for the dead. You teach that Adam was given your temple ceremony in the very beginning, You teach this trash as the pinnacle of Christianity, MORmON style that is.
This critical ordinance was restored by your founder Joe Smith with Blood Oaths.
BOs were there all along! as Joe taught it . Until they were removed in 1990.
Blood oaths are and were not part of temple ceremony. The only thing that you could even begin to claim was a blood oath was a very simple gesture that was removed decades ago. The gesture was drawing a line across the throat. This was strictly symbolic. It was to show the importance of keeping the temple ordinances sacred and represented a spiritual death.
There was never a blood oath or anything having to do with blood.
You are misinformed, but Christians still use it all the time.
2 cont. MORmONS were so embarrassed by the temple ceremony style Murder of Brenda Lafferty that they took the blood oaths out in 1990 SO NOW you want to pretend like the B.O.s were never there at all. Talk about dishonest! YOU deceitful POS. are you an LDS G.A.? You would take the engine out of a car, with 500 K on the odo & then act like there never was one in it. Then people ask about the oil stains, exhaust pipes, fuel lines, you say "DAT DONT MEAN NUTTIN, AINT IN THERE NOW!
Super easy! LDS First PRes & QOT 12 apostles. You ought to read your scriptures MORmON, the first page tells the story. LDS Inc is a Corporation, the LDS PRES. is the Chief Officer. The apostles are the de facto B.O.D.s
YOU are the Liar here, attempting to defend your church/ CULT CORP! regardless of my naming anything or not. EPIC FAILURE 2&3 for you NOW.
So I guess the Pope is the CEO of the Catholic church and the Bishops are the board members?
Get real.
Church leadership benefits in no way from tighting.
That is a major difference between Mormons and other Christian denominations. Pasteurs are paid from the collection plate. The prophet and other church leadership is not.
Seems gay to me....
Shutterbug1000 1 week ago
Please',...if i may, might i ask any' mormons out there, just but one question,......how do 'you' get to heaven???
The truth about what mormons belive, is that it is thier Works' that get them to heaven', not Jesus Christ. I say this because mormons belive Jesus Christ Only "HELP'S" them get to heaven, where and when they fall short on there 'Works' .
mormonism is anti-christ.
The truth is that Jesus Christ IS" the ONLY WAY TO OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN.
We are saved by the Blood of Jesus Christ
MustangSally6469 3 weeks ago
@MustangSally6469 I was wondering why my responses weren't coming up. Then I realised the uploader vets the responces. So much for freedom of speech, I guess it only counts if people think as u do.
gateway1965 1 week ago
NEWT 2012 :)
TednGilbertAZ 1 month ago
Bottom line is Joseph Smith took 90% the temple rituals and symbols from Masonary and incorporated them into a religion that he invented in order to gain power,wealth and many wives. To the LDS leaders its a business of dollars and cents....
MrPoppoppoppo 1 month ago
I wish people could chill. I'm not LDS but they don't harm me, just knock on my door time to time and I ask the hardest questions I know. To me it is like slaves leaving Mississippi to get to Canada, there are conductors that point north or transport people. The drinking gourd was a big secret. It wasn't safe for most to know what it meant to have a dipper at your front door meant It was a safe house. It was a secret, not to be discussed openly.
I'm headed for "Canada" too.
imagineers0 2 months ago
Mormonism is bullshit!
tamasandy 3 months ago
we have secret handshakes?
Xdifferent4everX 3 months ago
Read first hand what the author of this book went through in the secret Mormon Temple Ceremonies in this book:
The book: CAN MITT ROMNEY SERVE TWO MASTERS? The Mormon Church Versus the Office Of The Presidency of the United States of America.
You owe it to your country to inform yourself with the truth before going to the voting booth. There is too much at stake!
certainlytruthful 3 months ago
The Christian world uses the handclasp in marriage rites/ordinance even today. The marriage handclasp represents love, unity, equality and oath/vow between husband and wife as the marriage begins. There are many examples in art which depicts a husband and wife with their right hands joined in the dextrarum iunctio handclasp. It is the symbol of a marriage that transcends and grave and is often depicted on gravestones and sarcophagus.
cevansroxy 3 months ago
“Nevertheless I am continually with thee: thou hast holden me by my right hand. Thou shalt guide me with thy counsel, and afterward receive me to glory.” (Psalms 73:23-24)
cevansroxy 3 months ago
I really hope you are an honest man with integrity and will show what I have just posted to show people the truth. I don't expect you to, but our Lord would favor you and begin to forgive you if you did. You have an opportunity to repent and show the truth. Now is the time of your redemption. Seize it.
cevansroxy 3 months ago
The depictions of Christ "harrowing of hell" clearly show the handclasp by Christ is a major part of this motif. Some of these depictions of Christ's descent into limbo, show the handclasp made with right hands with the thumb resting on the middle of the hand as though the redeemed was feeling the nail mark in Christ's hand, and as though Christ was showing the wounds which had brought about salvation.
cevansroxy 3 months ago
Mentioned earlier in Galatians 2:9, these are the "Right Hands of fellowship. Jeremiah 31:32 compares the hand clasp to entering into a covenant with God. Both are appropriate symbols for the temple because of the covenants made therein.
cevansroxy 3 months ago
@cevansroxy I approved everyone of your (BS MORmON) posts. You are totally full of CRAP as you try to justify MORmON/ masonic secret handshakes as an aspect of Xtianity. You are WRONG. and any one with any sense knows it. & you are a MORmON !
carkunkula 1 month ago
@carkunkula what r u tryin to get at in ur video that u believed in it once then didn't, that ur a back stabber, that ur antimormon, that u take things that r sacred to others &exploit them, that ur uncomfortable in what you felt about the church, that u didn't agree with your bishop and left the church mad, that maybe u were excommunicated &bitter and decide to make movies about the church. Either u believe in a religion or u don't but why makefun of something you use to believe in.
cobiafish 1 month ago 5
As stated it is the custom to extend the right hand as a gesture or in token of recognition, agreement, reconciliation and fellowship from which the handshake expresses. It was also used by the early Christians to recognize other fellow believers.
Epiphanius explains: "The hand is held out, in greeting, of course, and a tickling stroke is made in the palm of the hand, so as to indicate secretly that the visitor is of the same religion as they
(Epiphanius of Salamis, Against Heresies XXVI, 4, 2)
cevansroxy 3 months ago
“And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.” (Galatians 2:9)
cevansroxy 3 months ago
"Then they (the angels) took me by the hand and led me to the curtain before the throne of the father." (Testament of Isaac 6:4)
cevansroxy 3 months ago
“Lift ye up a banner upon the high mountain, exalt the voice unto them, shake the hand, that they may go into the gates of the nobles.” (Isaiah 13: 2)
cevansroxy 3 months ago
What's with the priesthood handshakes, I am a Mormon, I have the Araonic Priesthood, I have never had to give any handshake besides the normal friendly one you give to all people.
TadCornell 3 months ago
FREEMASONRY! And they use Jesus Christ in their name? What!? Heresy! Blasphemy!
restored4hisglory 4 months ago
Are you ready to die?
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Have u lied? Have u stolen? Jesus said if you look at a woman with lust you have committed adultery with here in your heart. have u done that?
If God judge’s u by the Ten Commandments will u be innocent or guilty? Heaven or Hell? Does this concern you?
Do u need a Savior from your sins?
Jesus came, lived a sinless life, died (for our sins) and rose again on the third day.
needgod.com
standingontruth1 4 months ago
you are all ignorant. you could learn something if you were so much of a bigot
jaredtrust 4 months ago
Biblical christianity knows nothing of this secret handshake, sacred underwear, temple-ceremony. This is what happens when mortals add to the alreadt revealed, canonical Word of god.
baptistabro 4 months ago 6
@baptistabro " Biblical christianity knows nothing of this secret handshake, sacred underwear, temple-ceremony."
actually it does, because the bible warns ppl about EVIL & EVIL WORKS, and this Masonic / LDS BS /anti Xtian practices are exactly what the bible is trying to warn ppl about. but you are certainly correct in that Christ NEVER advocated FOUL Dark things like this, and those that say He did put their EVIL words in God's mouth to blaspheme Him. MORmONISM is EVIL & A LIE.
carkunkula 4 months ago
@carkunkula Hahaha using one fairy tale to argue against another.
robertgift 3 months ago
@baptistabro Mormons are a cult organization. They pretend to be a Christian denomination in order to hide the true (but bizarre) aspects of their religion. It's all about Joseph & he was a delusional old horn dog if there ever was one. I tell people to do the research yourself. It's out there & some of the info is even LDS approved literature. Joseph changed his story & lied to get what he wanted. No better than David Koresh.
Paula120906 3 weeks ago
@egretsch1 You spelled sacred wrong.
WordBelmont 4 months ago
The most loving thing we can do for God and for man, just as Yeshua our Saviour did, is to speak the truth, unvarnished and plain spoken, with warnings for those who oppose it. Thus as an ex-Mormon I have written a book called The Mormon Deception, available for free download at candlecrossministry.co.uk
stuartalive 4 months ago
Some things are so personal they are not for public consumption. Ex 1: discussing with my brother personal weakness for self improvement. I don't want the world to hear the conversation, but the results are profoundly positive. Ex 2: Love making with my wife is a central act of devotion to each other. It is not up for casual judgement from strangers. It is sacred between her and I. Temple worship is similar. Our devotion to God runs deep. It is not to be fodder for strangers to scorn or judge.
Z8nate 5 months ago 14
@Z8nate So all you haters can be word thugs all you want. Reasonable people can understand that ANY religion can be made to sound silly. Virgin births, talking bushes, time warping prophets. Belittling the Church only serves to make your mind and manners seem as if they had been cultivated in a barn. I challenge you to rise above it and do as Jesus taught John 13:35: "By this shall men know ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another."
Z8nate 5 months ago 2
@Z8nate "Some things are so personal they are not for public consumption."
then keep your LDS BS to yourself ! including keeping your POS BOM out of my face, stop jamming your POS LDS religion in ppl's faces which would include standing down your full time world wild harassment army of missionaries. typical MORmON antics on your part! LDS jam MORmONISM into ppls faces, then when your keystone(BS)temple ceremony comes up you blame others for bringing it up.U two faced back stabbing prick!
carkunkula 3 months ago
you dumb perron this is sacried you should not have this up here
egretsch1 6 months ago
@egretsch1 sacred to who ? asshole nut case MORmONS? like you ! why is it OK for MORmONS to blindside & threaten ppl with this insane shit? is that kind of criminal activity *sacred* to you as a MORmON ? your leaders should all be in prison !
carkunkula 6 months ago
@egretsch1 [Sacred] to whom? You can't even recognize nonsense which you term "sacried".
Typical of MORmONS.
ALL religions are man-made myth, fairytales and superstition for gullibles to believe. You don't even realize it.
robertgift 4 months ago
i think someone wasnt worthy , know there angry, Guess what they will also forgive you.
AshFacedPuPPY 6 months ago
i dont see anything wrong with mormons..aka lds. at least they're not worshipping the devil.. right?
junior801 6 months ago
@junior801 yah just overlook all the LDS crime, the mass murder, mass molestation of the LDS temple ceremony , 2002 olympic bid scandal, cal prop 8 reporting violations, etc and MORmONS are squeaky clean.
carkunkula 6 months ago
@carkunkula lol who said mormons are all clean? NO ONE. haha. look at christians, weslyans, catholics, and eevery religion... each have killers/molesters/etc...every religion has it's ups and downs. the mormons are just the ones who get smashed the most for some odd reason. oh btw. that lds ceremony u r talkng abt is of the FLDS community. NOT THE LDS. thanks yo
junior801 6 months ago
@junior801 "lol who said mormons are all clean? NO ONE. haha. look at christians, weslyans, catholics, and eevery religion... each have killers/molesters/etc.."
and MORmONISM has a pervert criminal molestor loser for a founder ! & its been bearing evil fruit & LIES ever since !
carkunkula 6 months ago
@carkunkula AHA!!! O MY!!... that's not the LDS silly.. that's the FLDS. 2 different religions. the FLDS practice plural marriage and all that stuff until today. but not the LDS. I kno kinda confusing.. but it just bothers me when people get us mixed up... :/
junior801 6 months ago
@junior801 I dont have anything mixed up. FLDS did not fund the 2002 Olympic bid bribery scandal.
Mainstream LDS still practices polygamy too. They reserve the right to nullify by decree any LDS temple sealing, & they do for reg. members all the time, as well LDS choose to leave in force the POLYGAMOUS temple marriages of MORmON founders Joe Smith, Brig Young & cohorts. THAT is practicing polygamy, despite all the BS LDS INC denials. MORmONS are hopeless phonies &LIARS.
I see thru them.
carkunkula 6 months ago
@carkunkula HAHAHA I AM LDS AKA MORMON :) AND NO WE DO NOT PRACTICE POLYGAMY!!!! KBYYEEEE
junior801 6 months ago
@junior801 HA HA UH YES you mainstream MORmONS DO CURRENTLY practice polygamy,
your church believes in eternal marriage, TWO OF YOUR CURRENT ASSpsotHOLES , OAKS & NELSON are sealed to MORE THAN ONE WOMEN/ ETERNAL WIFE. THAT IS POLYGAMY BY SIMPLEY APPLYING YOUR OWN LDS CONVENTIONS. HOW COME YOU DONT UNDERSTAND YOUR OWN RELIGION, STUPID ASS ? MORmON!
carkunkula 6 months ago
@carkunkula that's called normal mister. lol when your wife DIES.. then u can find another. it's not nice to swear. and it's not nice to put others down. and keep calling me mormon.. I LOVE IT <3 how did u find all this time to put such hate on the LDS faith? I just find it sad others have nothing else to do with their lives aha
junior801 6 months ago
@junior801 QUOTE "that's called normal mister. lol when your wife DIES.. then u can find another. it's not nice to swear. &it's not nice to put others down. &keep calling me mormon.. I LOVE IT <3 how did u find all this time to put such hate on the LDS faith? I just find it sad others have nothing else to do with their lives aha"
Mocking MORmONISM is time well spent, outing LDS EVIL is GOOD,you'd have us doing secret handshakes for godhood instead. like thats not a waste of time! MORmON!
carkunkula 6 months ago
@carkunkula oucchh... well Jesus taught not to Persecute others. I still don't think it's nice. This is not going well... But you have your choices.. I have mine. Take care and I hope all goes well with you... I <3 Jesus! lol thats all that matters :)
junior801 6 months ago
@junior801 Mormon Jesus is a polygamist, like his dad-god, who was once a man and became a god among zillions. Thus M'ism is polytheistic,too. The "Polygamy Revelation" is unaltered and waiting to be expressed. Can't say that of the BofM with 4000 alterations. M'ism stopped polygamy in c1915, not 1890 and only then because they had no options. But they will again. the FLDS is the purest expression of M'ism, it adheres to all Joe's lies, including "milking the beast" thru fraud, welfare, etc.
IExposeMormonism 6 months ago
Thats right buddy. Keep fighting. We are growing bigger and bigger and satan will rage in your heart more and more until you are consumed. Let go of hate and be wise. The Book of Mormon changed my life and I invite you to read it. MITT ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT!!!
sirjamez41 7 months ago
@sirjamez41 "Thats right buddy. Keep fighting." DONT WORRY I WILL NEVER STOP
"We are growing bigger & bigger &satan will rage in your heart more & more until you are consumed."
A BIGGER & BIGGER WHAT? A BIG BALL OF CRAP IN UTAH? YOU HAVE YET TO AMOUNT TO ANYTHING! & YOU NEVER WILL! YOUR CLAIMS OF BEING A RESTORATION OF TRADITIONAL XTIANITY WHEN YOU CANT EVEN KEEP UP EVEN TRADITIONAL XTIANITY ARE AN ABSOLUTE FARCE LIKE SOME 1 IN A WHEELCHAIR CLAIMING TO OUT DUNK M. JORDAN. MORmON!
carkunkula 7 months ago
@sirjamez41
" The Book of Mormon changed my life" Just because you led a crap life (probably pissed alot of people off in the process) and now have joined a dumb cult doesn't mean it's true.
Now you want to piss off people by pushing a cult with dumb comments.
Jehovahs Witnesses convert lots of people like you and they are a lying cult too.
You could say the Book of Mormon changed my life too and the church that prints it is a fraud.
ElderJoseph 7 months ago
What SO many people never put together is the simple fact that Jesus Himself said that John the Baptist was the last of the great Prophets. Anyone that comes after him is to be denounced as a false prophet, like the Pedophile Muhammad, Ellen G. White (SDA), Joseph Smith the Liar (Mormon), L. Ron Hubbard (Scientology)...ALL of them are BS and need to be avoided at all costs.
DreadStorm 7 months ago
@tomboworthington when people leave the lds church they can't leave the church alone because:
A. They have found Joseph Smith was a liar and deceiver, therefore, the church is not true, and wasnt others to find the truth.
B. They are angry because they have found they have been lied to their whole life!
TheChristiankat 8 months ago
if you know that we are belong to a GOOD one,then we should expect GOOD behavior from "YOU" .if not,then "YOU" are in big trouble!
MrBordg 8 months ago
@MrBordg wow I thought MORmONS were not supposed to drink. post again when you are sober.
carkunkula 8 months ago
you're a pitiful and sad man, i pity you so much.
you got nothing good to do to yourself and to others.
tsk3..
pity.
jashercOre 8 months ago
i find it interesting that when one leaves the church they cannot leave the church alone. interesting. No respect for holy things.
tomboworthington 8 months ago
@MrRizzlybear the clip is ready available on youtube. your comment was only cut one time, and its still GONE !
carkunkula 9 months ago
Google "Mormon Apologetics: Losing the Battle & Not Knowing it." It was not written by a Latter-Day Saint Christian. Rather, an anti-LDS Evangelical scholar pieces together both sides of the argument & admits that the anti-LDS criticism is lacking & has been refuted. He also notes how LDS Apologists' refutations have been met with silence by the critics.
metallicarox80s 11 months ago
Mormons are so dishonest about what they believe. I have exposed the mormon temple endowment on my channel. I have a recording of their endowment ritual.
isthechurchtrue 11 months ago
what if you have no hands??
on judgment day
God-no handshake??
-well i know it but i can't-
God-Damned to hell!
Imowedthecarpetonce 1 year ago
@batterdown I leave most pro LDS posts up because they are a dazzling display of MORmON idiocy & deceit, but I have no obligation to put up with your blatant baseless LDS BS spin, lie, deny tactics.
carkunkula 1 year ago
It kinda reminds me of Scientology. Except instead of giving money to get it, you have to give up your life.
ToadStoolxX 1 year ago
Thank GOD for the internet. I used to ask my mormon friends about the handshake and the women told me that there wasn't one.. The men said they couldn't discuss it. I heard ONLY men do handshakes. Also, when you get married the new couple gets NEW names. The husband knows his new name and HER new name. She only knows HER name. Something to do with calling her to his planet after they die. Oh,yeah.. they think that they get their own planet.. hahaha
Shutterbug1000 1 year ago
@Shutterbug1000 the women do the secret handshakes too, they have them so scared that they lied about it which is exactly what MORmONS are supposed to do, with that in mind, how can anyone take that dumb ass MORmON liar Mitt Romney seriously when he says he wont let his MORmONISM effect his decisions as US pres. what an idiot!
carkunkula 1 year ago
@carkunkula .... is perverse, ignorant and uninformed. It IS the church of JESUS CHRIST...not Joseph Smith. If Jesus Christ INDEED did present himself to Joseph Smith then Mormon's believe in the RIGHT Jesus. If not, then leave the Mormons alone. They will come to naught...a house divided cannot stand... If it is the RIGHT Jesus then...
batterdown 1 year ago 5
@batterdown QUOTE "carkunkula .... is perverse, ignorant &uninformed. It IS the church of JESUS CHRIST...not Joseph Smith." Really? & how did I end up so misinformed after over 30 years in your POS
*church* /CULT, after being temple endowed & serving an LDS mission.
I should feel really important because some HUGE organization has spent million$ on me
to infiltrate the MORmON church &make sure I was lied to at every turn. OR MAYBE UR JUST A LYING POS MORmON! the #1 reason I quit LDS
carkunkula 1 year ago
@Shutterbug1000 they're names are all Joseph and Mary. how original.
Imowedthecarpetonce 1 year ago
the stuff they don't want to talk about is being kept secret because it is sacred.
In your description, you call the church abusive....what about the church is abusive?
Menokokoro 1 year ago
@Menokokoro "In your description, you call the church abusive....what about the church is abusive? "
EVERYTHING! The LDS fiends demanded that I go on a mission to sell their BOM scam. they took me into their temple, made me undress, touched my inappropriately with out my invitation & or approval, THAT IS A CRIME! they made me promise to give them everything I would ever have &swore me to secrecy over it with death threats. BLINDSIDE ON BLINDSIDE, CRIME on CRIME. PURE EVIL !
carkunkula 1 year ago
@carkunkula ok, if that is true, that sux, but that is not the church. Death threats? I refuse to believe that was church officials.
Menokokoro 1 year ago
@carkunkula No one is "demanded to serve a mission". Perhaps your parents encouraged you to serve a mission. What is sad is that you ever went to the temple. I feel bad for people who tell half of the truth.
dkaw1 1 year ago
@carkunkula They put a gun to your head? Held your family hostage? Stood outside your house with burning torches? How did they force you into the temple against your will?
lindalds 10 months ago
hmmm.. i was a mormon for 20 years and i never got to learn any kickass handshakes! only when in the hood.. my negro friends must be higher mormons than i was! LoL
SuckMyKiss420 1 year ago
If they want to be understood than explain to me why their temples are locked up to those who are not MORmONS.
Brendan1246 1 year ago
@Brendan1246 Well thats easy, really ! Joe Smith got on this campbellite restoration kick. He read the bible & saw temples in there. so he wanted to build one for himself to be better than other churches, so he goaded his followers into it . when the kirtland temple was done, they said hey this sure is nice, what do we do with it? Not Judiac rituals because those are to prepare for the coming of the Messiah & that already happened with Jesus CHRIST for those who claim to believe the NT.
carkunkula 1 year ago
@Brendan1246 so the LDS temple ended up being a HUGE Monument to JOE SMITH & MORmON idiocy. so joe ripped of the masonic lodge for the New LDS temple ceremony , which is kind of funny since it is Gnostic & not Christian at all. to avold any scrutiny of his idiocy Joe just made the thing secret. but the secret is out , & Now MORmONS look pretty damn stupid, just as they should ! MORmONS!
carkunkula 1 year ago
@carkunkula So the whole point of MORmONism is a fraud. That I already knew. Thanks for reinforcing it. Any MORmONS reading this, please read up on what you believe.
Brendan1246 1 year ago
@Brendan1246 because you have to be worthy to go in the temple. I am LDS and I can't go in because I am not worthy, it is not discrimination, we simply have requirements to enter.
Menokokoro 1 year ago
@Menokokoro Could you be worthy if you counted how many times the book of mormon says "And it came to pass".
Brendan1246 1 year ago
Their founder searched for treasure by putting a stone in a hat and looking at it. He supposedly translated their holy book in this way from behind a curtain. Funny shit.
Ebrainiac1 1 year ago
I think with all the opinions out there it can become hard to see clearly, it is very much like when Peter walked on the water and sank when he beheld the stormy waters around him but when we focus on the Saviour we will have peace. I believe the strom will grow greater but let us put our trust in the Lord. The Church is saving me and I know through the Holy Ghost that it is true. Need I really listen to a man tell me it is not. I doubt the Church would destroy any man. He himself yes.
llewellleo 1 year ago
Secret handshake? What are they 8 years old?
JollyRedGiant3x 1 year ago
Secret Handshakes! Milkshakes, coco shakes, chocolate shakes yummy!
jmsg12345 1 year ago
Mormonism is ruining my life right now. I recently told my wife (whom I love very much), that I never had a testimony ("god" never gave me one) and that I am leaving the church. She says regrets marrying me and that I am only half a man now....we have two young children. I feel in shambles and misunderstood.
miljo34 1 year ago
@miljo34 I am sorry for your loss. I know how it feels. when I left mormonism in 2007 I left a job and my family. my whole community knew and I ended up leaving Utah altogether.
my fam and I are on talking terms now, but it took a couple years.
thats the thing about mormonism, you cant simply leave. lots of exmos end up giving up things they shouldnt have to give up. Mormonism is a religion with cult origins, and this is all just those origins manifesting themselves.
mathdude28 1 year ago
haha great video man
khdude2000 1 year ago
WOW. You really like us don't you?
TangerineVato 1 year ago
holy shmokes!! hahahaha i almost missed the end at 3:37 LOL.. i almost "wet" my pants laughing... awesome video!! thank you
MALDITTOROKKERO 1 year ago
isnt it obvious that mormons have the same rituals as the freemasons?? arent the symbols on the mormon buildings from the masons too?? man, what kind of excuses will i hear from the mormons now??!!! this can not be a "church" of god!! why cant mormons see this??? it's as easy as 2+2=4 !!!!
MORMONS = MASTERS OF EXCUSES
MALDITTOROKKERO 1 year ago
Follow the PROFIT, follow the PROFIT, Follow the PROFIT it knows the way. I love the book of Josephs Myth.
TheHottyJenny 1 year ago
@Sephuskal U R only allowed to express yourself here to show what a DUMB ASS you really are. you have NO 1st ammendment right in this PRIVATE forum, STUPID ASS! I am going to prove it ! Your last post is DELETED & there is NOTHING you can do about it, because you were not exercising a right.
Your understanding of the constitution is as LAME as your understanding of your POS temple ceremony! You MORmONS are so damn dumb, you just shoot off your mouths when you have NO clue! MORmONS !
carkunkula 1 year ago
Oh I see. So you don't have an original thought just the ability to copy and paste and try to insult some one. The biggest problem with AntiChrists like you, is that you spend all day worshipping your self and making some false image out of your pug faces, so that you actually believe you are higher than God. You are your own God. It's incredibly hilarious to me that some one who portrays a sense of logic on youtube such as your self, is really to stupid to tie his own retarded sandals.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
by Sephuskal "Oh I see.So you don't have an original thought just the ability to copy &paste &try to insult some one.The biggest problem with AntiChrists like you, is that you spend all day worshipping your self &making some false image out of your pug faces, so that you actually believe you are higher than God.You are your own God. It's incredibly hilarious to me that some one who portrays a sense of logic on youtube such as your self, is really to stupid to tie his own retarded sandals."
carkunkula 1 year ago
@Sephuskal hey retard, I just reposted another of your braindead MORmON gem posts to my own account ! you think you are laughing .........
carkunkula 1 year ago
@Sephuskal "Oh I see. So you don't have an original thought just the ability to copy and paste and try to insult some one."
You got that right, THAT IS what YOU see, its all you can see, you stupid ass retard!
"The biggest problem with AntiChrists like you, is that you spend all day worshipping your self"
Yah if only we could spend all day doing secret MORmON handshakes, doing Joe Smith brand baptizing for the dead & worshipping PERVERT Joe Smith instead ! like retarded MORmONS!
carkunkula 1 year ago
@Sephuskal "The biggest problem with AntiChrists like you, is that you spend all day worshipping your self and making some false image out of your pug faces, so that you actually believe you are higher than God. You are your own God."
What a great attempted *Indictment* coming from a retard MORmON -someone who really believes they will become a god by doing secret handshakes because Pervert MORmON Joe Smith said so!
carkunkula 1 year ago
@Sephuskal "The biggest problem with AntiChrists like you, is that you spend all day worshipping your self &making some false image out of your pug faces, so that you actually believe you are higher than God. It's incredibly hilarious to me that some one who portrays a sense of logic on youtube such as your self, is really to stupid to tie his own retarded sandals."
My sandals must be in the same place as all the images I made of my pug face, same place as the gold plates, NO WHERE!
carkunkula 1 year ago
@Sephuskal " It's incredibly hilarious to me that some one who portrays a sense of logic on youtube such as your self, is really to stupid to tie his own retarded sandals."
MORmONS talking about logic ..... well dogs bark at cars too, but that does NOT mean they understand anything about them. MORmON!
carkunkula 1 year ago
@carkunkula well your so smart. what faith are you?
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Sephuskal "what faith are you?" why would it matter, MORmON? (I know MORmONISM is BS! thats enough to SO EASILY best you!) Are you in need of some straws to grasp at? Go ahead & fire up your MORmON Burning Bosom & use it to discern what my religion really is! Then attack away ! MOCK my false prophets all you can. Mock my counterfeit scripture. Mock my harem of added wives done in the name of god. Mock my phantom gold plates! Come on MORmON! get with the program! MORmON !
carkunkula 1 year ago
@carkunkula LOL wow. Issues Much. Just thought since me and everyone else that stands up for their first ammendment rights on the tube here, are taking the Hail of Bullets, Cowards like you would dare come out from behind your wizardof Oz curtain and put your beliefs on the line. But I can see you're too scared to do that. & I don't blame you. Cuz if you named your religion it would easily be shredded by any one who is in the know" and I can tell your an AntiChrist anyway by the way You act lol.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Sephuskal You have NO 1st Ammendment rights on youtube,MORmON STUPID ASS! especially at someone else's site. its a private forum where you have been granted a privilege. your expressing yourself on youtube &at my site can be revoked at any time. But you got confused &thought that opportunity constituted a right. Leave it to MORmONS to playup their persecution complex &improperly invoke the US constitution that they dont really understand just like their own stupid temple ceremony! MORmON!
carkunkula 1 year ago
@Sephuskal yah, go ahead &blabber off your crap spewing MORmON mouth about the constitution &free speech just like you know what you are talking about, you insane MORmON idiot. Fact is LDS Inc had hundreds of videos that were unfavorable to MORmONISM removed from Youtube, &they did it by BUYING Influence with Youtube, a proven LDS tactic, thats 1 way I KNOW 1st hand that there are NO1st ammendment rights on Youtube, but Ujust go ahead & bluster away like the LDS ass clown that U really are!
carkunkula 1 year ago
@Sephuskal REPOST "LOL wow.Issues Much.Just thought since me & everyone else that stands up for their first ammendment rights on the tube are taking the Hail of Bullets, Cowards like you would dare come out from behind your wizardof Oz curtain and put your beliefs on the line. But I can see you're too scared to do that. & I don't blame you. Cuz if you named your religion it would easily be shredded by any one who is in the know" and I can tell your an AntiChrist anyway by the way You act lol."
carkunkula 1 year ago
@carkunkula C;monnow. Don't be cranky carky. tell us what you believe. would you bear your testimony of Jesus Christ? Tell us how much you love and appreciate him
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Sephuskal why should my love or dislike of anything matter to you? except that you dont know what you are talking about & when I say so it rocks your very shaky world & its crappy LDS belief system. A real "Jesus" does not want love or adoration, He makes it a point to set pple free as He says that your MORmON *Jesus* is an asshole, much like you! Imagine that, That is already more than a brain load for a MORmON, so dont expect any more, its already more than you can handle! MORmON!
carkunkula 1 year ago
@Sephuskal I dont... I dont .... I dont get into those details, to paraphrase Ballard, especially not with a MORmON. Your bogus MORmON *logic* is also noted & I wont have you putting words in my mouth around here.
carkunkula 1 year ago
@Sephuskal "Just thought since me and everyone else that stands up for their first ammendment rights on the tube here, are taking the Hail of Bullets,"
OH, OH, you are such a Hero, standing in the Hail of bullets for your 1 st ammendment rights here on youtube! There should be additional verses about you written for the Star Spangled Banner, America, & The Battle Hymn of the Republic. I can only hope to someday meet a man a tenth as great as you think you are! MORmON! DUMBASS!
carkunkula 1 year ago
@carkunkula Well then you get in the lime light richard. tell us your religious beliefs. WHat do you believe about God.. And what may or may not happen when we die.
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Sephuskal Unlike many MORmONS, some people dont feel compelled to get in the Limelight &show their face on the internet & shoot off their mouth while not having any clue what they are talking about & having fantasies about being some kind of movie star, like the dumb bitches MORmON hunnies or MrNirom.
I earned my beliefs about what may or may not happen after death, MORmONS
dont know! they just take the word of some other MORmON who does not know either & lose their money over it !
carkunkula 1 year ago
@Sephuskal I did put my beliefs on the line ! & they did get shredded, by anyone who knew much of anything, just like you said. That is why I no longer put any stock in MORmON doctrine, because my religion is MORmONISM ! I just no longer believe any of it. I never *married* a teen or other men's wives, ESPECIALLY in the name of God, NEVER forged scripture, so IF I am an Anti Christ your Joe Smith is FAR WORSE than Satan! &thats the foundation of your church! So, go ahead, trash my church!
carkunkula 1 year ago
K ... why did you repeat my post back to me Cark?
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Sephuskal what a perfect demonstration of your total lack of intelligence. most people could figure out why your post was reposted to another account on their own. But even as I explained it right in comments, you still couldnt get it ! MORmON! and you expect others to respect your research & claims on what the templar tradition really means relative to xtianity.
You are one dumb SOB MORmON!
carkunkula 1 year ago
It's easy for people to Mock Loving LDS, and defile their sacred things. Easier than other groups who would kill you for it. God will not be mocked. "Father forgive them they know not what their dumb asses are doing."
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Sephuskal Oh dont worry, we know your MORmON heart is really full of HATE, BLOOD LUST, & MURDER just as your MORmON scripture, MORmON history & MORmON temple ceremony so fully illustrate. We dont buy into MORmON two faced back stabbing phony calls for brotherhood at all. We know its all just a MORmON tactic just to lure people in &then put a MORmON knife in their back.
Dont worry, in a crunch the LDS temple penalties will be executed on those who subscribed to them, & not on the innocent.
carkunkula 1 year ago
Hand shakes and all the signs people wonder about LDs were discovered in Solomons temple by the templars and transferred to the Masons. God is the same yesterday today and tomorrow. LDS is a restoration. Plain and simple
Sephuskal 1 year ago
momoboy2010 1 year ago
mormons do believe in secret handshakes to get into heaven...Mormons think God is some kind of secret society leader...God needs to use silly handshakes? did the mormon God not have enough "teenage years on his planet when he was a man?" so now the mormon God wants to use secret handshakes to get people into heaven?
wow...and these hand shakes are exactly like masonic hand shakes.
dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
misunderstood? I think not.
Mormonism is a hoax. a fraud.
understood
momoboy2010 1 year ago
@momoboy2010 MORmONS are totally stuck in a brain dead ultra anal retentive Old Testament mode. LDS totally miss Christ's message that God is fully capable of looking at a persons heart to evaluate them & that mankind is to be liberated from the brain dead rote ways of the OT. MORmONS would be nailing Christ back to the cross. "He did not know the secret Handshake! " STUPID ASS MORmONS!
carkunkula 1 year ago
@carkunkula
agreed.
I don't know why mormons continue to think that their exposed temple rituals are the product of lies. The information the public now has about the LDS temples and their secret rituals comes from LDS members themselves who have discovered the real LDS fraud.
The truth about the LDS fraud is coming from within the mormon church itself!
I am glad that thousands of mormons every year are realizing the truth about the LDS fraud.
LDS = big religious business, thats all.
momoboy2010 1 year ago
@momoboy2010 If you believed in God, You would believe that God is the same always. Masons derived from Templars, who got their info from digging in the temple Mount. solomons Temple. The Ordinances discovered there explain just fine the similarities with LDS ordinance. (Not the same but similar.) & if you did any History on Joseph Smith Jr. You would see that he was using two essentials in the endowment at the Kirtland temple, 5 years before he was exposed to Masonic influences. U serve Scratch
Sephuskal 1 year ago
@Sephuskal thanks for so carefully laying out the trail that ends at NOWHERE for the MORmON religion. You might have scored on the MORmON- Masonic-Templar linkage, cherish that thought, too bad you dont know enough about the Templar tradition to know that the Templar connection to Solomons temple is pure mocking Lore/Myth. Its where the MORmONS get seperated from the real scholars. The rest could be told to you, but you think you are so clever, you figure it out ! MORmON !
carkunkula 1 year ago
@Sephuskal "If you believed in God,You would believe that God is the same always. Masons derived from Templars, who got their info from digging in the temple Mount. solomons Temple. The Ordinances discovered there explain just fine the similarities with LDS ordinance. (Not the same but similar.) & if you did any History on Joseph Smith Jr. You would see that he was using two essentials in the endowment at the Kirtland temple, 5 years before he was exposed to Masonic influences. U serve Scratch
carkunkula 1 year ago
@Sephuskal yah, I just reposted your BS post on to my account so you cant pull it if & when you realize just how damn stupid you really are. You are doing a lot of boastful MORmON style blabbering for some one who cant tell their head from their ass, not that there is a lot of difference in your case. MORmON !
carkunkula 1 year ago
hahahahahahahahahaha i live in utah and im not lds, they are soooooo crazy!
shizzle400 1 year ago
@carkunkula, god didn't abandon us, after Jesus and the apostles died, the church went downhill. Nobody knew the truth till a boy pray for the church he should join
StormunMormon 1 year ago
There is no defense for mormonism. None.
crn84106 1 year ago
There is no defense for mormonism. None.
crn84106 1 year ago
How? Meaning I gave my reasons why they were apostles. How are they not apostles? You argue that only those who physically walked with Christ can be. Is it really so impossible for God to call other apostles? He called Moses as a prophet didn't he? Why not apostles? Why would we not have leaders today as our forefathers did back then? It doesn't make sense for God to abandon us. Why is it so impossible to believe that there are prophets and apostles in this day and age?
Abish424 1 year ago
Notice the language used commonly about the Church or any religion on the internet to either mock or discredit it. Even God's name is taken in vain hundreds of times on a daily basis. Is it any wonder why we want to keep some sacred things from getting soiled? You would never bring your mom's favorite lace tablecloth outside to sit on. It stays inside and safe and used only when you're fairly certain the dinner guests won't spill on it. You call it secret, I call it preventive measures.
Abish424 1 year ago
@Abish424 you are correct blasphemy is common place currently
& there is no greater example of it than LDS INC execs who take upon themselves the title of apostle of Christ & then say they are a special witness of Christ.
carkunkula 1 year ago
@carkunkula that would be true if they weren't really apostles of Christ. But the fact is that they are truly called of God. Christ preached love towards enemies and friends alike, service, helping others, morality, and basically just how to be good people. The apostles teach the same and more importantly ACT on those teachings without pay. If anyone deserves the title, apostle of Christ, it's them.
Abish424 1 year ago
@carkunkula that would be true if they weren't really apostles of Christ. But the fact is that they are truly called of God. Christ preached love towards enemies and friends alike, service, helping others, morality, and basically just how to be good people. The apostles teach the same and more importantly ACT on those teachings without pay. If anyone deserves the title, apostle of Christ, it's them.
Abish424 1 year ago
@Abish424 they are NOT apostles of Jesus Christ. NOT even close! THEY are BLASPHEMERS & VERY POOR IMPOSTERS! Christ's apostles rubbed shoulders with Christ. There are dogs closer to Jesus than these sickening blaspheming phonies. Their only real witness of Christ will be when the LORD finally sends them to HELL FOR LYING about things.
carkunkula 1 year ago
@carkunkula do you want to blow your other foot too? or did you already?
"It doesn't make sense for God to abandon us" that is your grand MORmON declaration of God's sensibilities, OF COURSE MORmONISM also teaches that God did in fact abandon "us" for 1700 years until he could get Joe to fix the "great apostacy" with the "great MORmON restoration". Do you see any problem there? any contradiction? any MORmON logic in action? Remember this is YOUR doctrine!
carkunkula 1 year ago
What a bull-crap video. All ordinances are symbolic and those that aren't pure and "have not ears to hear" do not understand the true meaning of those symbols. I know the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is God's church, and I know the temple is a sacred place. Shame on you for showing sacred things to those that aren't ready to understand.
gord1921 1 year ago
too bad that in the blindness of your supreme MORmON arrogance you can't see that your MORmON god is satan.
The real creator of the universe put a complete DNA blueprint code in every cell of your body, then you blaspheme Him & pose Him as dependent on stupid secret handshakes to protect his kingdom& demanding a pervert joe LDS brand baptism for all his children to get into Heaven. You know nothing of HIm, then you try to preach to me. You are a MORmON ASS! you dont understand anything!
carkunkula 1 year ago
@carkunkula wat hanshake r u talkin bout
skewes35 1 year ago
yes it is a BS video ! its about BS MORmON doctrine ! you took a shot at the messenger & hit yourself right between the eyes! MORmON !
carkunkula 1 year ago
@gord1921 yah MORmON Church probably is the true church of god.... as your MORmON god is Satan. Secret Handshakes, blood oaths of vengeance, Mock throat slashing ....that leads to real throat slashing, Pervert Joe brand baptisms even for the dead. that certainly is not Christ's way or teachings. have fun worshipping satan,but dont expect the rest of us to respect you & your MORmON BS stories about your cult being Christian. MORmON !
carkunkula 1 year ago
@gord1921 If you had any brain at all you could see how your LDS temple tokens & symbols are patently anti christian, carry overs from the anti christian gnostic rituals they were stolen from. you will NEVER see it as long as your filled with Nibley & FARMS LDS garbage, & that suits me just fine, just dont expect me to not make fun of you! MORmON !
carkunkula 1 year ago
@gord1921
secret hand shakes are all over masonry and satanic rituals... Joseph's incorporation of these pathetic rituals may have been his ultimate disgrace...even more than his secret polygamy practices from his wife.
Who the hell can honestly say that they will greet God with secret masonic handshakes? This is absolutely pathetic! No wonder so many mormons are leaving that cult! The LDS needs to get rid of this pathetic temple bull crap... it is so obviously WRONG
momoboy2010 1 year ago
@momoboy2010 "The LDS needs to get rid of this pathetic temple bull crap"
but it is at the very heart of their blasphemic MORmON essence, after all they are a product of Pervert Blasphemer Joseph Smith. Ironically it was Gordon Hinckley who gutted the MORmON temple ceremony in the attempt to make it more palatable & more marketable. Any decent person found in MORmONISM needs to reject all LDS BS. For the rest of the MORmONS the title of MORmON is quite fitting.
carkunkula 1 year ago
Nice editing in the beginning. Really honest of you to just play the same things over and over and not the actual interview and his responses. It is interesting that critics of the Mormon church use dishonesty, half truths and tricks to frame the Mormon church in a negative light.
Mormon leaders are not paid, it does not matter how much the church takes in, leaders don't benefit based on the church's collection, unlike clergy from other Christian denominations. They are serving God.
AxiomAngel 2 years ago
You are as full of shit as your MORmON leaders! MORmONS just can not stop lying -just as the video AND YOU show!
carkunkula 2 years ago
Too bad everyone can not be as *honest* as MORmONS; blindsiding temple initiates with blood oaths, lying about LDS history & doctrine, funding olympic scandals etc. Book deals alone are multi million dollar propositions for top LDS execs. Hinckley became filthy rich as LDS pres. You are such a damn liar/ fool. MORmON!
carkunkula 2 years ago
The repetition is the same as the MORmON Temple Ceremony! How come you dont approve of it here? it suits MORmONs just fine when it comes to
the temple ceremony !
carkunkula 2 years ago
Your rants show what type of dishonest, morally corrupt person that you are.
Fact #1.
Hinkley was OK financially before he become the church president and you have absolutely no proof, no financial information, not even a scrap of evidence that shows Hinkley benefited financially from his position. Saying things that are untrue is lying. You have just shown yourself to be a liar.
Fact#2.
There is no blood oath in the temple.
Fact#3.
There are no LDS "execs". Name them or you are a liar.
AxiomAngel 2 years ago
Time to feed your own ass, MORmON !
First off It is not my duty to answer your BS questions. I am only doing it to show OTHERS how damn dishonest you really are! POS!
1 "Hinckley was OK financially before he became church pres" So what is your point? as you MORmONS so often say.
Hinckley worked for LDS Inc. his entire life with one tiny niggling exception.
Is this your stupid way of implying GBH did not make MOReMONey as LDS PRES. EPIC FAILURE #1 for you.
carkunkula 2 years ago
If you are to make claims against another religion it is your duty if you have any honor at all to back up your assertions with fact and evidence.
1. You claimed that Hinkley got rich off of being the president of the LDS church. It is not true. He was wealthy before he became the prophet., You made a claim, it wasn't true. That makes you either a liar or just ignorant. Either way you are not being truthful with your assertions.
AxiomAngel 2 years ago
I already covered this, MORmON. So his pre Pres wealth means he did not profit while being LDS Pres? Based on what? Your idiotic MORmON assertions?
WHat you MORmONS dont understand is that the burden of proof is on you. YOU are the one asking people for money & time to save all the dead. I have not asked for any money in the name of God. I am going to be like you now. Give me money or God is going to damn you.
Give it now or you are a liar. MORmON!
carkunkula 2 years ago
You are the one making ludicrous accusations. Smearing a religion and the leader of the religion without proof. Ignoring the facts of where and how the leader of the Mormon church made his money. Slandering and lying without proof.
Therefore the burden of proof is on you.
Or are you bearing a false witness?
AxiomAngel 2 years ago
The fact is LDS INC admitted giving 2 million $ to SLOC, the money used to fund the 2002 oly bribe scandal. LDS INc. never IDed who authorized the funds, which means it falls on CEO Hinckley, who did it anyway. I guess you dont understand corporate protocol.
Its a documented matter. Your choice to be ignorant of it does not disprove.
Your ignorance is only proof of your ignorance.
carkunkula 2 years ago
Your Olympic scandal Mormon church conspiracy theory is laughable. I would love to see your evidence that the church gave the money to the SLCOC knowing that any of it was going to be used for bribery. I think for the benefit of your own integrity you should show this proof. Let's see this proof and the sources.
If you can't show any then I think everyone can see what type of person you are.
So let's see the proof with your sources.
Good luck.
AxiomAngel 2 years ago
Fact 2 "There is no blood oath in the temple"
You MORmONS teach that MORmON temple ordinances are critcial to exaltation & salvation even for the dead. You teach that Adam was given your temple ceremony in the very beginning, You teach this trash as the pinnacle of Christianity, MORmON style that is.
This critical ordinance was restored by your founder Joe Smith with Blood Oaths.
BOs were there all along! as Joe taught it . Until they were removed in 1990.
carkunkula 2 years ago
2.
Blood oaths are and were not part of temple ceremony. The only thing that you could even begin to claim was a blood oath was a very simple gesture that was removed decades ago. The gesture was drawing a line across the throat. This was strictly symbolic. It was to show the importance of keeping the temple ordinances sacred and represented a spiritual death.
There was never a blood oath or anything having to do with blood.
You are misinformed, but Christians still use it all the time.
AxiomAngel 2 years ago
2 cont. MORmONS were so embarrassed by the temple ceremony style Murder of Brenda Lafferty that they took the blood oaths out in 1990 SO NOW you want to pretend like the B.O.s were never there at all. Talk about dishonest! YOU deceitful POS. are you an LDS G.A.? You would take the engine out of a car, with 500 K on the odo & then act like there never was one in it. Then people ask about the oil stains, exhaust pipes, fuel lines, you say "DAT DONT MEAN NUTTIN, AINT IN THERE NOW!
carkunkula 2 years ago
Are you psychotic...I don't know the relevance of anything you are saying on this one other than showing your intellect.
AxiomAngel 2 years ago
Fact #3 "No LDS Execs, Name them"
Super easy! LDS First PRes & QOT 12 apostles. You ought to read your scriptures MORmON, the first page tells the story. LDS Inc is a Corporation, the LDS PRES. is the Chief Officer. The apostles are the de facto B.O.D.s
YOU are the Liar here, attempting to defend your church/ CULT CORP! regardless of my naming anything or not. EPIC FAILURE 2&3 for you NOW.
carkunkula 2 years ago
So I guess the Pope is the CEO of the Catholic church and the Bishops are the board members?
Get real.
Church leadership benefits in no way from tighting.
That is a major difference between Mormons and other Christian denominations. Pasteurs are paid from the collection plate. The prophet and other church leadership is not.
AxiomAngel 2 years ago