Evolution is like Gravity, the second law of thermodynamica or the roughly oblate spheroid Earth, proved beyond any reasonable doubt. If you believe that G-d created the earth and all the planets therein, then to say that G-d created separate species through Special Creation not through Evolution is telling G-d what to do. Not only bad science but impiety or indeed blasphemy.
@scarletharlot69 God created everything simple as that he created all the animals from the bizzare to the unique.Species or no species they were created by him.
Science was made by God but they are the ones being impious to the one who made the rules of the universe so that Helium and oxygen will always form water no matter where you go and Iron will always rust in the presence of oxygen. Science is the study of things observable but God is not in the range of science neither do they want to
@scarletharlot69 acknowledge him as his work is given to the big bang,evolution and other things.God has given his book which can explain our origins,why we are the most intelligent,why are things so messed up and how can we save our existence.So it is up to you to not look into the word of God and see if there is truth to it. The bible gives the beginning and the end just as God says and it tells us of what is happening is supposed to happen and that the end is near.
I meant most of the modern flat earthers aren't christians or even religious....I don't know if you missed my earlier comment, but like I said, they are just paranoid conspiracy theorists thinking everyone is tricking them into believing the world is round. Hence, they aren't religious.
@AURORACELLIAULOS "Flat Earth Society." Look them up. Their claims include that Antarctica is a wall of ice surrounding the Earth, the Earth is only a few thousand years old, and that government agencies including NASA are part of a conspiracy designed to "hide the truth." I really WISH I was making this up.
@CamW30 Once again, the confusion about what is a REAL Christian is.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
Find the love of God here.
Audio, Gospel of John Chapter 1 AV h t t p://w w wDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=Ao4uaIjd3xs
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
Find the love of God here.
Audio, Gospel of John Chapter 1 AV h t t p://w w wDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=Ao4uaIjd3xs
actually what that verse says is so horrible that i dont understand why it's not banned as the horrible blasphemy it is...
for god so loved the world that he impregnated a woman with a son that was himself so that he could sacrifice himself to himself so that THEN he could be motivated to forgive us for offenses we hadnt even commited yet. it paints god as some sort of sadistic bloodthirsty petty tyrant
why not just forgive for the goodness in his heart? without blood sacrifices?
@sabin97 Many reject the free gift for various reasons and none are valid.
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7:13-15
@sabin97 If he forgives without you seeing the results you will just do it again.The blood sacrifices were so that people would not take sinning lightly and pointed to the son of God coming to give up his infinite life for ours so that we could live forever through him. Look at it from Gods view point and know this.Sin is no small matter and watch how it has impacted us.Rebellion against the creators way and being selfish that is what you can trace all sin to.Just forgive a child like that all
"the son of God coming to give up his infinite life"
are you HIGH??? jesus didnt give up SHIT
he was dead for THREE days....that's all....if i knew i would respawn on the third day i would GLADLY give my life for you......and somehow i dont think i would deserve to be worshiped for it...
@sabin97 Would you be also be whipped for me and spit upon and bear it all and you are the king of the universe and your own people who you told of your coming when in what town and how.They rejected you the very one whom you came to save I doubt it as you cannot comprehend such love. Your life might give me a second chance but can it give me an immortal body and eternal life as well as an unfallen nature no it can't and you didn't create anything and everything.Psalms 2 read it to understand.
@sabin97 the time and see how they turn out.They never learn their lesson.Once you sin and go against Gods law you will die because he created everything good and when you take it upon yourself to do what is against his law you forfeit existence.Once there is sin it will lead to hatred and that leads to killing and blood shed.
"Once you sin and go against Gods law you will die"
so how soon after i go against "gods law" will i die?
i'm assuming that by "gods law" you mean the 100+ commandments of the old testament. if so then everyone who ever dares eat pig should fall down dead instantly......and those who mix more than one kind of fabric in their clothes, and those who dont stone their disobedient children to death
@sabin97 It is given unto a man once to die and after this the judgment.If you continue to against Gods law then you will die spiritually and then physically.Which commandments did Christ speak of the 10 which are based on love for God and love for everyone else. Pork is not healthy as it is a scavenger and meat was not the diet intended for man and you can see it in the diet of a vegetarian that he is healthier than a meat eater.
i beg to differ about the dietary restrictions. i eat meat, including pig, and i'm in perfect health. all you need to stay healthy is moderation and good exercise.
actaully the commandments of the old testament are over 100, and christ said they are ALL valid, that people should continue following them. just read your bible, dont take my word for it.
i try to be a decent human being, but not because an ancient book threatens me with eternal damnation.
@sabin97 There are clean and unclean animals and eating an unclean animal exposes you to the detrimental effects of eating unclean animals.You are in perfect health now but how long will it be until your body can last against the meat that you place into it.There are health benefits from being vegetarian for it is the original diet. You being a human being will not save you from death and only Christ can do that by giving you the eternal life and an unfallen nature as well as resurrecting you.
@sabin97 Where does Christ say they are all valid he gave them the 10 commandments and then gave them laws to govern them as a people and the results of breaking this law.You will die even without God so why not get to know him and the beautiful plan of salvation and all he plans for us and what he warns us is to come. You can read The Great Controversy and steps to Christ and have you bible as well.Without god we will end up doing all sorts of things so choose death or life it is simple.
no offense but i noticed that the people who most diligently defend the bible and call it "the word of god" tend to be people who dont even read it(except the few cherry-picked verses their superiors tell them to read)
@sabin97 You have trouble understanding the bible.The law Jesus was referring to and which he quoted from and that is not the first time doing that as after he quotes from the same ten commandments is the law given to Israel for them to live by and it is an individual law which someone as a whole must follow.The others which you are talking about are for the nation of Israel and so can only be done by a Judge it is like a court and the judicial laws of today.As i said it can only be done by the
@sabin97 Told you Sabin it is for the nation of Israel to govern them as a nation.How can you apply that to a church or someone where they are not under their own governing body and where they have to follow the laws of the land.The jews could have carried them out and I mean the laws are good but the penalties cannot be carried out. Besides if you follow the 10 commandments you will not end up breaking those laws so they were for the nation it is the law that governs every person which makes
where do you get that those 100+ commandments were just for the nation of israel?
i've read most of the old testament and i have not seen a single shred of evidence that points to those 100+ commandments being exclusively for the jews. in fact they dont seem to be any different from the 10 ones supposedly written in stone...
@sabin97 The ones as a person you have to follow are the 10 which he wrote on stone which means that they are to be impressed upon our stony heart when we love the Lord we will follow them and that they are to are of a permanent nature just as the material they are written on.
so you're choosing those 10 over the other 100+....
how do you know THOSE 10 are meant for everyone and the other 100+ are just for the jews?
also why would the jews be treated any different than the rest of humanity?
they are neither better nor worse than anyone else....unless god somehow has favourites.....which i really hope not......a being that loves everyone the same but has favourites sounds kinds wrong to me...
@sabin97 They had a covenant with God but it started with their ancestor as God said through you I shall bless all the families of the earth.That was meant in the holding of Gods words but anyone who wanted to join in the nation could have done so and they being the people through which the messiah would come.Daniel 9:24-26 gives the time of the messiah and for the finishing of the confirming of the covenant. God has no favorites in terms of peoples but he hates sin and those who turn their
@sabin97 They were not denied this covenant as anyone who wanted to could become a Jew.It was all because of the faith of their forefather Abraham who he made the covenant with and who God chose to convey the message of salvation. The covenant was not of instant salvation but they were chosen to carry forward the sacrificial system and the bible until the messiah came.They rejected the Messiah as a nation and so it went to the world.
when exactly and how exactly was the rest of humanity offered the covenant that the jews were offered? why is it that no religious text of other peoples ever mentions YHWH and the offer of the covenant?
i find it hard to believe that in the whole world there was no other man of equal moral character to abraham, who would be worthy of such a covenant....
@sabin97 Well God promised Abraham the land and he told him its dimensions and said he would bless all nations through him and that his descendants would fill the earth.It has a earthly and and a spiritual fulfillment.Abraham's descendants were given the land and blessed and all nations of the earth were blessed through him as those who walk in the faith which Abraham had are his spiritual descendants.God is going to give the land to all the earth.
"Well God promised Abraham the land" my question was more in the lines of
why was this offer made by only to abraham? what was so despicable about the rest of humanity that the only man worthy of even visiting was abraham? why not a mayan? or an aztec? or someone in japan? or a native australian? what was so despicable about the rest of humanity???
@sabin97 They were not despicable it just that humanity as a whole like to be rebellious and don't like to listen.Watch now how the promise of eternal life is made and now how few accept it he was the only one at that time who would probably listen to and seeking God.
So you can use now as a reference that just because you are offered something that you will take it and just because you don't understand all that happened in the past it does not mean that the way it was painted to you is how it
there was absolutely noone else in the whole world who was worthy of even talking to?
no other human being was worth the time to talk to and make a covenant? i find that somewhat odd......of all of humanity only abraham was worth it.....
@sabin97 Noah was the only man in his time and his family was saved as well because of him so it should be no shock.The reason why God gave Abraham the land and made the promise to him was because he wanted his word and a people to show the plan of salvation. There were allot less people their at that time and just like Mary was the only one maybe he was the best to use but that does not mean that he was the only one saved at that time.
so at that time there were no people in the rest of asia and africa?america?australia?
my question was why only abraham? were the rest of the peoples of the world so worthless as to not even show your face to them or let them know you exist?
@sabin97 First of all don't know how far people had spread at that time and of all the people at that time and there were not as much as today maybe in the millions or less.Out of all them he chose Abraham for it seems only he was able to do what the Lord wanted like leave his people and believe that he would get a son even in his old age.Sacrifice his son his only son which God had promised and told him through which the entire earth would be blessed.Abraham was the best just as Mary was best.
"First of all don't know how far people had spread at that time" i'll give you an idea,
the inca empire already existed at that time. so if there were civilizations in america there probably were in asia, australia, africa, and europe.....
".Abraham was the best just as Mary was best." based on what criteria? seems to be an arbitrary decision.
strangely enough YHWH was unknown in america, until the spaniards imposed christianity as the new religion.....
@sabin97 is so let go of the past and take the opportunity now because we cannot change the past and will never fully know what transpired but we have the now to act upon.
if that is true, then why do so many religious people speak as if they know for sure? why the pretense?it seems to me like those people make assumptions and then say "this is 100% true, because i can feel it....and so it MUST be true"
@sabin97 I said we will never fully know.I didn't say we didn't know because it has been left to us a detailed and accurate record of what happened in the past.It is 100% true because it gives details which are both good and bad about the characters and the archeological evidence is there to support the bible and it all comes down to prophecy which happened as said and the time of the beginning and end of some prophecies you can link to events as well.
@sabin97 ears from hearing his words as they do so willingly and to their own detriment as there is only one sin that cannot be forgiven and that is rejection of the Holy Spirit who leads men into the truth and repentance and when you have rejected the Holy spirit for so long you see that you cannot repent since you have become death to its pleadings. God loves everyone but he hates sin and loves the sinner and those who listen to him as they were sinners who decided to turn away from sin and
@sabin97 have faith in him who gave his Son for the world and took the penalty of the race and his death is the death of God which has a higher price than the price of an angel or created being.It also is a sacrifice and a willing one as he will forever be a human being one of us and Gods tabernacle will be brought to this world and there will be no more sea. He pays the price for all the sins we ever have done in our lives and we need only ask the father in the name of Jesus and we will be
@sabin97 forgiven as he is our intercessor.he also gave many promises of the things he would do for his people.We will get the tree of life that was originally supposed to be our birthright and become like the Angels and see the sights of the universe and learn without that knowledge being corrupted or forgotten.
@sabin97 everyone accountable for their own should and the one which Jesus more than once quoted and fullfilled and expanded upon.Here are two this gospel shall be preached to all men and then shall the end come.Shall day shall not come until that man of sin be revealed the son of perdition. The Daniel prophecy gives a clear time until the messiah should come.
@sabin97 nation of Israel to keep it as a nation from becoming like our society today.Now you say about reading the bible but even if you read the whole bible and not understood it it is as if you learned nothing and it would be better for you to learn one passage and understand it in its entirety.There is a reason he said bind it on your heads and hands but what it meant was keep it in your mind and do it. The Ten commandments are what God requires of us not stoning which if we did now
@sabin97 we would be guilty in today's law and rightly so because Jesus came to die for all our sins and made it so that all can come to the father through him.So I ask you where have you ever seen Jesus quote stone someone or do this based on the laws you just quoted and the I have read the bible and am not extensively as allot have but i know a good bit.
Have you even looked up the great Controversy the book i told you about.The bible is not lies but to those who want to learn the truth it is
@sabin97 it is the best book out there and can be equaled by no other.The bible has prophecy and as i was telling someone the prophecies of Daniel extend to our time and and told the time of the messiah and the Kingdoms that would arise after one another and affect his people. I agree with you that allot of people don't read the bible and many don't seek understanding to learn what the bible teaches but depend on their superiors to tell them this and that.So the ten commandments were always
can you name one prophecy that is specific, clear, non-ambiguous, that we can actually test if it happens or not? or are they all like nostradamus, who made such ambiguous "predictions" that anyone can associate it with anything: "there will be war and terrible natural disasters"(there has been war since the dawn of man, and also natural disasters, so that "prophecy" would always be true)
@sabin97 there but they had to be written down to a people who had been so long in the land of Egypt and who had forgetten the law of god.The sabbath was there from the beginning that is why it said remember the sabbath day to keep it holy.Six days shall thou labour and do all thy work but the seventh is the sabbath of the lord as he made it Holy and rested on it in the creation week.To blaspheme is a no no and Idolatry and killing and all these that were known.So Gods 10 are based on love.
@AURORACELLIAULOS actually i refuse to believe that god: 1) has a gender 2) rested 3) is jealous and petty 4) is a mass murderer(killing millions of egyptian babies is murder, no matter how you try to rationalize it) 5)impregnated a woman 6)killed(or allowed others to brutally kill) an innocent man just to have the motivation to forgive us for things we hadnt even done yet(as none of us were born) 7) needs money 8) has favourites 9) would punish us infinitely, for finite offenses
@sabin97 you have alot of miss conception but God said he is a Father not a mother and not it so and the cattle on a thousand hills are his as he is King.God creates and is in no need of reproductive organs but he specifically refers to himself as a he and in the human race man came first and then woman. When he said he rested does not mean that he went oh that took a lot out of me it is rested from the work that he was doing and spent time with man as he sanctified with himself and spent time
@sabin97 with man.When God says he is jealous there is a reason God created us there is no other God which we should be giving the praise and honor.It is just like a parent which brought you into this world and you are giving a mannequin or another being who doesn't not deserve it the thanks.God has feelings and rights but the reason why god is jealous is because nothing good will come out of going against or to another god. Answer me this how many times did God have to send plagues for the
@sabin97 Egyptians to listen 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, and then he had to do something drastic just so that they could let the Israelites go.That just goes to show you how many times God showed mercy on them and it was only on the first born when he could have made a massacre.That just goes to show you how long suffering God is to people and how he does not take life for granted and how many times he showed them his power and they did not heed and then they were warned and after that the Egyptians
@sabin97 still went after them to capture them after that.Pretty hard headed huh.She did not have any qualms about it and was happy did you see Jesus getting abused was it your womb no then you have nothing to say as it was not fertilization as we know it he simply took on human flesh.God judges and simply takes back the life that he gave and it was God who gave the command and he used the Israelites to Judge the nations at the time who were Idolaters and it was God who won the battle for
@sabin97 the Israelites and gave them strength.Sometimes with only a handful of Israelites battles were won and it was all due to God who takes care of his people and those who put their trust in him.Jesus sacrifice was necessary in many way.The wages of sin is death,the soul that sinneth it shall die,without a shedding of blood which is life there is no remmission of sin Heb 9:22-10:22.When he gave his life willingly as he did not sin so that the price for our sins can be paid through his
@sabin97 eternal sacrifice as his blood is the blood of the Son of god which has more value than a created being and he is to be in this body forever more no longer like his father only spirit but with this body though it will be perfect and after eating from the tree of life for so long he will be taller. Sacrifices were done to show that you were willing to sacrifice what you had for God and your devotion.The earth and all the heavens is the Lord but he wants us to put effort,time and what he
@sabin97 gives us as the talents life and energy we have are his and we can learn and grow through giving and sharing and being a servant like he was while he was on earth.He does it for our blessing so that we can be part of his work and he can use us to do that which is good.Favorites as God loves all who obey and trust him and even loves those who don't as he gives them time to repent and come to him and as it says send the rain on all.The punishment is infinite not the punishing as in I
@sabin97 will burn only for for the sins I have committed in this life and it will be according to the sins I have done and then I will be eternally obliverated as in no more me forever so the punishing is for a moment as some will burn for a minute and some for longer as this whole earth will be on fire and will be purified through it.Just as the world was purified through water but it was not fully as the fossils of creature and oil is still here but all this will be burnt up and the
@sabin97 earth will be recreated and the city of God will come down out heaven oh and i just remembered this before Mary became pregnant the Angel Gabriel the one God uses allot since he was sent to Daniel and Jesus' cousin John six months before and he might take the place of Lucifer.Before she became pregnant she was told of what would happen and she did not say no I want to keep my youthful figure and was not against her will. Heaven is there right now Hell will be a moment.Read The Great C
@IRFodder Lol the dead knoweth nothing and you are spiritually dead to say such a thing and know nothing of wisdom for the fear of the Lord is the beginning of all wisdom.The Lord is wonderful and majestic and we are not worthy of his love but he gave it to us and continues to but you still reject it. You know nothing of true love to love unselfishly. And no am not high am just making an observation.
you do relise that the flat earth was inspired by the curch right and if any one thout other wise they woul be proscuted ....... srry for mis spelling im dyslexic
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: Isaiah 40:22
Flat Earth Myth Invented by Evolutionists
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Science has shown us that the elements obey preexisting orders written in and by the function of many of the most common elements. It is a true statement to say that the elements obey a preexisting word. The function that hydrogen has inside of us shows us that the entire universe made of hydrogen and derivatives has a Maker of that function. Every other function has a maker and no other function is nearly as advanced as the nano mechanics and technology utilized in life forms.
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:10,11
@BereanBeacon1 Jesus predicted that his return would be in the first century AD. After nearly two thousand years, it's time to accept that you got stood up, pay your check, and walk out of the restaurant with what dignity you have left.
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:10,11
Bishop Isidore of Seville (560 – 636) taught in his widely read encyclopedia, the Etymologies, that the Earth was round and "resembles a wheel".[Resembling Anaximander in language and the map that he provided, this was widely interpreted as referring to a flat disc-shaped Earth
@arkica44 Is 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
@inechiSAN It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
@inechiSAN It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
further, because there are now pictures of the earth from space and google earth, it is harder for anyone to suspend their disbelief and accept the flat earth theory. About the furthest creationists will go is geocentricism of nephilimfree. anyway, the transitional forms are there. The DNA test shows it. Embrace the theory of evolution. It's cool!
@scarletharlot69 The bible never says the earth is flat get over that and evolution theory is just that a theory on facts which are shaped and twisted how they would like so there is no accountability.DNA just shows that God made us out of the same building blocks.
@AURORACELLIAULOS Indeed the Bible does not say the Earth is Flat, nor does it say that the Earth is 6000 years old. Nor is it a literalist or fundamentalist document. There are hundreds of thousands of peer reviewed papers supporting the theory of evolution, none supporting special creationism. Case closed get over it! Of course we are made of the same building blocks as other animals, we are distantly related to them.
@scarletharlot69 It could be a million but they were not there and there are huge holes in their thoery of evolution no matter how much they polish it up. Firstly how does an animal know what structures it needs to do this and the enzymes,proteins and chemicals to get it all done.How can some animals have instinct programmed into it them and why has their not been a creature that has evolved to live forever.If an animal can evolve then why have humans not evolved to regenerate,breathe
@scarletharlot69 underwater.Jump farther.Become something more than just an intelligent being.So we are related to chickens and cows so are you related to me?How is it some animals become unable to mate after simple changes and we are so different from each other.
Evolution is a theory which takes more faith than does God.Fossil evidence shows animals were larger before like the bible says,there are no fossils of man because the flood was to wipe them out.There is alot of evidence for creation
@scarletharlot69 people just want to look at the evidence against it.DNA shows that we all came from the same designer and there is no evidence of Genetic information being added to DNA.Scientists have been wrong as the science is the same but their conclusions and deductions have been shown to be wrong based on that science.
Case is open and your case and mine is being decided as how we live reflects who we believe in and God saves us from sin and death.Science is nice but cannot be used to
@scarletharlot69 disprove the very God that made them and is above them.You can only see God when you look for him and not him in person but what he does as if he appeared to us all we would die on the spot.
@scarletharlot69 Species is a categorizing of the animals that God created nothing less and he is a He.A Father and Son and a holy Spirit.God is a not a her.
@scarletharlot69 Sexual reproductive organs were given to us to procreate God doesn't need it because he just has to say the word and it is done.Remember in the bible it is the man created first God could have done the both of them together but he created man first and then woman. So it is with him and the angel they do not procreate and marry each other so have no need of these organs.
all a bit beside the point. you are quite correct that everyone knew the earth to be spherical. It had been accurately measured (the first estimate was correct) though Columbus used the smallest estimate. Well everyone new amerika was there, see 'Cod: a biography of the fish that changed the world' by mark kurlansky. Creationism is however as ridiculous as the flat earth theory. There is no merit in either, its just that the religious rite is not pushing flat earth theory.
I'm not going to sit here and post 30 (500-character) posts. I also have a 72-page document that explains the whole flat earth myth. Very few believed the Earth was flat even by 100 A.D. Two or so early church fathers thought it was flat but thousands of other theologians believed the earth was a sphere adn that was what Isaiah taught.
FSM where are you? Isiah is written in prose and poetic form for one adn there is actually a metaphor inside a metaphor in that one verse. I wrote several songs in my headbanging days adn I am smart enough to know what is being written metaphorically. I think some of you atheists need to take a course in English or creative writing. The Book of Job some 3,500 years ago eluded to GRAVITY-way before science had any grip on it. Do you want the article or not? I will totally prove my point.
You're totally incorrect. The shadow does not cause the phases of the moon. The moon, being separate from the Earth in orientation to the sun, receives light either opposite, perpendicular, equal or parallel to earth. This is because the moon rotates around the Earth independent of our cycle of day and night. The shadow of the Earth is cast onto the moon very infrequently and is known as the Lunar Eclipse. There's a special name for it because it doesn't happen every day.
It is even easier than that...the easiest way to disprove this video is as follows
Columbus was sailing to find a new way to the indies. Magellan circumnavigated the world. Or more specifically, he died before he finished and his crew circumnavigated. Furthermore, far earlier the Vikings discovered Vinland, or "Vine land" because they wanted to grow grape vines there. Modern day Newfoundland. and the Chinese came in 1421..or 26..to lazy to look it up. and native americans arrived like 15000B.C.
Obviously these morons never heard of Galileo, and what happened to him by the Catholic Church.
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These morons are just wrong and its SAD who ever believes this. Seriously, doesnt these assholes have anything better to do than making excuses for their religion and misinforming people.
This video is utter failure. And goes to show what kind of people they are trying to provoke.
Uhh.... Colombus WASNT the first to discover the Americas...it was a Norse explorer by the name of Leaf Erikson
,,,and the bible claims the earth is resting on pillars and has four corners. Geometrical shapes with corners tend to have flat sides connecting them, thus the "flat earth myth" came from creationists...
Sorry but you fucked up, try again after you get your facts at least conceptually worked out.
isiah 11:12 and he shall set up and ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of israel, and gather together the dispersed of judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH
matthew 4:8 again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. (to see all kingdoms from the same mountain the earth must be flat)
1. "Four corners" is an idiom, referring to the cardinal directions
2.The implication in Matthew's account is that the devil showed Jesus a vision of all the kingdoms of the earth. Luke's account clarifies this when he says the devil showed Jesus the kingdoms of the earth in an instant.
Where does it literally, specifically say the earth is flat?
@brizzoke ok, how about the fact that Kepler and Gallileo were excommunicated and arrested for their views of a round world? if we all followed your psychotic book of ramblings, the sun would still be rotating around us and we'd still be kissing the ass of a "god" that's just a ripoff of horus
@aeropostalbaby1 what happened to Kepler and Galileo was unfortunate, but understand the "church" at that time had little or nothing to do with the Bible. It made up doctrines to allow those in power to stay in power and to make money off the poor. And it handed out far worse punishments to people who translated the Bible in the language of the common people. Btw, not only is the Bible well organized, it is the most widely attested ancient text in the world.
@brizzoke [the "church" at that time had little or nothing to do with the Bible] Despite USING THE BIBLE TO MAKE THEIR CASE AGAINST BOTH OF THEM. But obviously using the Bible, in context, as the is final say-so has "nothing to do with the Bible."
"it handed out far worse punishments to people who translated the Bible in the language of the common people." Actually that is bullshit.
"not only is the Bible well organized" Metamophoses. The Iliad. Gilgamesh. Enuma Elish. All as organized.
Not to mention that the collective compilation of a nation's history, even one that interprets events from an ignorant view, over even a hundred years, has a general organization.
And then adding another compilation spanning at most a few weeks of a person's life...
But, then again, it's no more organized that OTHER AND OLDER TEXTS. Such as Gilgamesh.
"it is the most widely attested ancient text in the world." Actually, a large portion of the specifics in the Bible are false.
@onijester56 re: Bible organization, I think you're making too big a deal of that statement. I was simply replying to the claim that it was a "psychotic book of ramblings."
Translator William Tyndale was executed by the Church
Which of the specifics are false?
The reason I say the church at that time had little or nothing to do with the Bible is that it had long departed from the tenets of the faith communicated by Jesus and the Apostles.
@brizzoke "too big a deal of that statement" The Bible follows a general historic order. This makes sense in that it was written over time to tell history.
[psychotic book of ramblings.] It actually is. Just because there is a general order based on a historical backbone, that does not mean that it's any less a "psychotic book of rambling". Order and coherence are not always the same.
"Translator William Tyndale was executed by the Church" For HERESAY, for LEADING THE REFORMATION.
Which then nullifies your claims. And (in fact) the Bible had been fully translated into English NUMEROUS TIMES SINCE THE 600's.
"that it had long departed from the tenets of the faith communicated by Jesus and the Apostles." Actually the tenets remained the same. There was corruption, but the TENETS remained the same.
"Ptolemy's system was not based on the NT." There is virtually no astronomy in the NT. Hence an astronomical system WOULD NOT BE BASED ON IT.
@onijester56 I didn't say they changed the tenets; they departed from them. Meaning, they added to the notion of faith as the means for salvation. There is one creation account. Ch. 2 is an explanation of 1. This is evident by the letter "waw" in the Hebrew. You are saying these things are false with no proof. Yet there are hundreds of fulfilled prophecies concerning Israel and the Messiah, including an empty grave.
@brizzoke "they departed from them." Only, at least generally, so far as was SUPPORTED by either SCRIPTURE or PHILOSOPHICAL REFLECTION/'divine communication'.
Of course in practice there were more-specific, yet also less-common, deviations to accomodate where Scripture either didn't mention or failed to capture truthfully.
"There is one creation account. Ch. 2 is an explanation of 1." Actually, it is not. Hell, the very order of Creation in Genesis 2 contradicts Genesis 1.
"Yet there are hundreds of fulfilled prophecies concerning Israel and the Messiah" Actually most of the prophecies are so vague that they should be construed to be fulfilled every generation. AND STILL a good amount of them FAIL TO BE FULFILLED.
Hell, God fails to fulfill his own claims and prophecies. Repeatedly and consistently.
"including an empty grave." Assuming that the grave is empty. Assuming that it wasn't grave-robbed or scavanged. Assuming there even was a tomb. And so on.
Part of the Reformation was translation to common language. The official charge against reformers was heresy, but they were being faithful to the original text. Luther challenged anyone to prove him wrong from Scripture, yet no one could, so they tried to kill him.
Jesus' life is unique among others who claimed divinity because of His fulfillment of the Hebrew Scriptures.
Jesus told His critics, "Ye do therefore err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God."
@brizzoke "Part of the Reformation was translation to common language" TRANSLATION TO "vulgar" languages WAS FAR FROM UNCOMMON. And even farther from being punished.
"but they were being faithful to the original text." It was THEIR INTERPRETATIONS OF THE TEXT that was considered heresay.
"Jesus' life is unique among others who claimed divinity because of His fulfillment of the Hebrew Scriptures." Actually Jesus FAILS TO FULFILL the Hebrew scriptures.
Of course the Hebrew scriptures were themselves developed from older scriptures that were POLYTHEISTIC and BASED ON MYTHS. Many prophecies (especially the Messiah) were nothing new. Especially the plot device that:
A prophecy is made -> The protagonist appears -> He/she fulfills the prophecy -> Things are ended "neatly".
[The application of this is only made clearer as the NT writers' fail to understand the "prophecies".]
It's clear your claims are based on generalities, not on a careful, thorough reading of the Bible. Jesus fulfills prophecies from Genesis through Malachi.
There are similarities in some ancient accounts, but the those have been greatly exaggerated. Where are your sources?
The older scriptures you refer to don't have eyewitness accounts, historical figures, & genealogies
We'll have to agree to disagree on Genesis. I'm reading it in Eng & Heb. Jesus quoted from both chapters.
[Jesus told His critics, "Ye do therefore err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God."]
Because obviously philosophical and theological thoughts and concepts from DIVINELY-INSPIRED MONKS AND PRIESTS that STUDY SCRIPTURE FOR MOST OF THEIR LIVES are ignorant of Scripture.
Of course, Jesus' own words there are nothing more than "you are wrong because you dont know what I'm saying". Given that he makes shit up as he goes, such a claim is dishonest at best.
"It made up doctrines to allow those in power to stay in power and to make money off the poor." Those who 'made up' the doctrines were predominately monks and nuns who created them HUNDREDS OF YEARS BEFORE KEPLER OR GALILEO.
Hell, Ptolemy, whose system the Church placed AGAINST GALILEO (and in turn whose system was based on THE EARLIEST COPIES OFTHENEW TESTAMENT) died BEFORE 200 AD.
I've never heard of this "flat earth myth". Anyone who knows history knows that a round earth was common knowledge centuries ago, at least amongst the educated at the time. Relatively ignorant sailors may have believed the earth was flat.
I've never heard it specifically associated with religion. It's more the "geocentric universe" that gets that distinction.
The video is full of lies, the main one being the lack of emphasis on the general knowledge of the people at the time.
The wise people they mention did exist and they did understand what they did understand, the peoplem is that those people were often shunned, attacked, and exiled for heresy for those discoveries.
The video says nothing of what was done to those whom discovered many facts about the world. round-earth, heliocentric universe, and many other hypothesis were persecuted
In realtiy, Columbus along with many Europeans at the time knew that the Earth was fully spheroid. Columbus's real concern was how far he would have travel in order to get to India. We knew that the Earth was round for almost 1700 years before Columbus.
Wow, so much ignorance. We generally aren't subjected to this kind of dribble in Australia, I feel for the people of the USA.
AussieAtheist1 1 month ago
Creation science??????????????????
harpo103 1 month ago
They just liked to put people into fire, but they new it all right since the begining :D
Petrhrabal 1 month ago
Columbus was a pedophile sailing the 7 asses looking for little boy penis
oxycodonez 1 month ago
lol what the fuck is this..
adceph 2 months ago
is it not a fact that all flat earthers are creationists? There is as much evidence to support creationism as there is the flat earth. None.
scarletharlot69 5 months ago
There are lies, damn lies! and creationism.
scarletharlot69 5 months ago
Evolution is like Gravity, the second law of thermodynamica or the roughly oblate spheroid Earth, proved beyond any reasonable doubt. If you believe that G-d created the earth and all the planets therein, then to say that G-d created separate species through Special Creation not through Evolution is telling G-d what to do. Not only bad science but impiety or indeed blasphemy.
scarletharlot69 5 months ago
@scarletharlot69 God created everything simple as that he created all the animals from the bizzare to the unique.Species or no species they were created by him.
Science was made by God but they are the ones being impious to the one who made the rules of the universe so that Helium and oxygen will always form water no matter where you go and Iron will always rust in the presence of oxygen. Science is the study of things observable but God is not in the range of science neither do they want to
AURORACELLIAULOS 5 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS Helium and Oxygen will never form water! :-p
why are you tellig G-d what to do?
scarletharlot69 5 months ago
@scarletharlot69 acknowledge him as his work is given to the big bang,evolution and other things.God has given his book which can explain our origins,why we are the most intelligent,why are things so messed up and how can we save our existence.So it is up to you to not look into the word of God and see if there is truth to it. The bible gives the beginning and the end just as God says and it tells us of what is happening is supposed to happen and that the end is near.
AURORACELLIAULOS 5 months ago
There still are people who think the Earth is flat. They happen to be Christian creationist.
TaslemGuy 5 months ago
@TaslemGuy lol, how dose that not surprise me.
Cogitatio023 5 months ago
@Cogitatio023
It should, cause it's not true.
AceofDlamonds 5 months ago
@AceofDlamonds That is my point. I meant it dose not surprise me the Christians make things up.
Cogitatio023 5 months ago
@Cogitatio023
I meant most of the modern flat earthers aren't christians or even religious....I don't know if you missed my earlier comment, but like I said, they are just paranoid conspiracy theorists thinking everyone is tricking them into believing the world is round. Hence, they aren't religious.
AceofDlamonds 5 months ago
@AceofDlamonds AHH, I agree. They are kinda like the 9/11 truther nuts.
Cogitatio023 4 months ago
@Cogitatio023
hah so true.
AceofDlamonds 4 months ago
@TaslemGuy
Actually, you are wrong, just to clarify.
They are conspiracy wacks who believe ANYTHING is "controlling" them, so they aren't religious......but they are batshit insane also......
AceofDlamonds 5 months ago
@TaslemGuy That is the most untrue thing I have ever heard.
AURORACELLIAULOS 5 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS "Flat Earth Society." Look them up. Their claims include that Antarctica is a wall of ice surrounding the Earth, the Earth is only a few thousand years old, and that government agencies including NASA are part of a conspiracy designed to "hide the truth." I really WISH I was making this up.
TaslemGuy 4 months ago
Evolutionists believe in a flat earth and they say it almost every time they speak: they call it "Pangaea".
kermitdfrogz 5 months ago
At the Flat Earth Society, we demonstrated that the Earth is flat indeed. And we are not religious people, only scientists.
thadeum1 6 months ago
1492 - Wasn't that the year that the Christians kicked the Muslims & Jews out of Spain. Christians are so loving & tolerant...
CamW30 6 months ago
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@CamW30 Once again, the confusion about what is a REAL Christian is.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
Find the love of God here.
Audio, Gospel of John Chapter 1 AV h t t p://w w wDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=Ao4uaIjd3xs
BereanBeacon1 6 months ago
wrong from the start
0:08-0:10
colombus didnt discover "the americas" he didnt call the lands to which he arrived "the americas" he called them "america"
what is it with people from usa insisting on kidnapping america for themselves???
america is everything from alaska to argentina and all the nearby islands(as hawaii, the caribbean, etc)
sabin97 7 months ago
@sabin97 Thank you.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16
Find the love of God here.
Audio, Gospel of John Chapter 1 AV h t t p://w w wDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=Ao4uaIjd3xs
BereanBeacon1 7 months ago
@BereanBeacon1
actually what that verse says is so horrible that i dont understand why it's not banned as the horrible blasphemy it is...
for god so loved the world that he impregnated a woman with a son that was himself so that he could sacrifice himself to himself so that THEN he could be motivated to forgive us for offenses we hadnt even commited yet. it paints god as some sort of sadistic bloodthirsty petty tyrant
why not just forgive for the goodness in his heart? without blood sacrifices?
sabin97 7 months ago
@sabin97 Many reject the free gift for various reasons and none are valid.
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7:13-15
BereanBeacon1 7 months ago
@sabin97 If he forgives without you seeing the results you will just do it again.The blood sacrifices were so that people would not take sinning lightly and pointed to the son of God coming to give up his infinite life for ours so that we could live forever through him. Look at it from Gods view point and know this.Sin is no small matter and watch how it has impacted us.Rebellion against the creators way and being selfish that is what you can trace all sin to.Just forgive a child like that all
AURORACELLIAULOS 5 months ago
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@AURORACELLIAULOS
"the son of God coming to give up his infinite life"
are you HIGH??? jesus didnt give up SHIT
he was dead for THREE days....that's all....if i knew i would respawn on the third day i would GLADLY give my life for you......and somehow i dont think i would deserve to be worshiped for it...
sabin97 4 months ago
@sabin97 Would you be also be whipped for me and spit upon and bear it all and you are the king of the universe and your own people who you told of your coming when in what town and how.They rejected you the very one whom you came to save I doubt it as you cannot comprehend such love. Your life might give me a second chance but can it give me an immortal body and eternal life as well as an unfallen nature no it can't and you didn't create anything and everything.Psalms 2 read it to understand.
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
@sabin97 the time and see how they turn out.They never learn their lesson.Once you sin and go against Gods law you will die because he created everything good and when you take it upon yourself to do what is against his law you forfeit existence.Once there is sin it will lead to hatred and that leads to killing and blood shed.
AURORACELLIAULOS 5 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS
everyone will die....
"Once you sin and go against Gods law you will die"
so how soon after i go against "gods law" will i die?
i'm assuming that by "gods law" you mean the 100+ commandments of the old testament. if so then everyone who ever dares eat pig should fall down dead instantly......and those who mix more than one kind of fabric in their clothes, and those who dont stone their disobedient children to death
and those who lust after their neighbours wife
and thieves
sabin97 4 months ago
@sabin97 It is given unto a man once to die and after this the judgment.If you continue to against Gods law then you will die spiritually and then physically.Which commandments did Christ speak of the 10 which are based on love for God and love for everyone else. Pork is not healthy as it is a scavenger and meat was not the diet intended for man and you can see it in the diet of a vegetarian that he is healthier than a meat eater.
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS
i beg to differ about the dietary restrictions. i eat meat, including pig, and i'm in perfect health. all you need to stay healthy is moderation and good exercise.
actaully the commandments of the old testament are over 100, and christ said they are ALL valid, that people should continue following them. just read your bible, dont take my word for it.
i try to be a decent human being, but not because an ancient book threatens me with eternal damnation.
sabin97 4 months ago
@sabin97 There are clean and unclean animals and eating an unclean animal exposes you to the detrimental effects of eating unclean animals.You are in perfect health now but how long will it be until your body can last against the meat that you place into it.There are health benefits from being vegetarian for it is the original diet. You being a human being will not save you from death and only Christ can do that by giving you the eternal life and an unfallen nature as well as resurrecting you.
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
@sabin97 Where does Christ say they are all valid he gave them the 10 commandments and then gave them laws to govern them as a people and the results of breaking this law.You will die even without God so why not get to know him and the beautiful plan of salvation and all he plans for us and what he warns us is to come. You can read The Great Controversy and steps to Christ and have you bible as well.Without god we will end up doing all sorts of things so choose death or life it is simple.
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS
no offense but i noticed that the people who most diligently defend the bible and call it "the word of god" tend to be people who dont even read it(except the few cherry-picked verses their superiors tell them to read)
mathew 5:17-20 jesus and the law.
and if you read the old testament you will see there are over 100 commandments, not just the 10 in the stones.
also i have no problems with god, we are very cool, my problem is with the blasphemous book of jew lies( the bible)
sabin97 4 months ago
@sabin97 You have trouble understanding the bible.The law Jesus was referring to and which he quoted from and that is not the first time doing that as after he quotes from the same ten commandments is the law given to Israel for them to live by and it is an individual law which someone as a whole must follow.The others which you are talking about are for the nation of Israel and so can only be done by a Judge it is like a court and the judicial laws of today.As i said it can only be done by the
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS
i recommend you re-read the old testament. those 100+ commandments are passed as "the law of the lord, YHWH"
not to be taken lightly by those of faith in that collection of books....
sabin97 4 months ago
@sabin97 Told you Sabin it is for the nation of Israel to govern them as a nation.How can you apply that to a church or someone where they are not under their own governing body and where they have to follow the laws of the land.The jews could have carried them out and I mean the laws are good but the penalties cannot be carried out. Besides if you follow the 10 commandments you will not end up breaking those laws so they were for the nation it is the law that governs every person which makes
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS
where do you get that those 100+ commandments were just for the nation of israel?
i've read most of the old testament and i have not seen a single shred of evidence that points to those 100+ commandments being exclusively for the jews. in fact they dont seem to be any different from the 10 ones supposedly written in stone...
sabin97 4 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS
actually the 10 from the mount are not necessarily related to the rest of the 100+ commandments found in the old testament
one of them has to do with not mixing two types of fabric
another is about crop rotation
one is about not shaving your beard
no tattoos....
and many MANY others
people just pick and choose which ones they want to follow, and they ignore the others
sabin97 4 months ago
@sabin97 The ones as a person you have to follow are the 10 which he wrote on stone which means that they are to be impressed upon our stony heart when we love the Lord we will follow them and that they are to are of a permanent nature just as the material they are written on.
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS
so you're choosing those 10 over the other 100+....
how do you know THOSE 10 are meant for everyone and the other 100+ are just for the jews?
also why would the jews be treated any different than the rest of humanity?
they are neither better nor worse than anyone else....unless god somehow has favourites.....which i really hope not......a being that loves everyone the same but has favourites sounds kinds wrong to me...
sabin97 4 months ago
@sabin97 They had a covenant with God but it started with their ancestor as God said through you I shall bless all the families of the earth.That was meant in the holding of Gods words but anyone who wanted to join in the nation could have done so and they being the people through which the messiah would come.Daniel 9:24-26 gives the time of the messiah and for the finishing of the confirming of the covenant. God has no favorites in terms of peoples but he hates sin and those who turn their
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS
"They had a covenant with God"
why was this covenant not offered to any other human settlement in the whole world?
why would god deny the rest of the world of that very same opportunity?
sabin97 4 months ago
@sabin97 They were not denied this covenant as anyone who wanted to could become a Jew.It was all because of the faith of their forefather Abraham who he made the covenant with and who God chose to convey the message of salvation. The covenant was not of instant salvation but they were chosen to carry forward the sacrificial system and the bible until the messiah came.They rejected the Messiah as a nation and so it went to the world.
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS
when exactly and how exactly was the rest of humanity offered the covenant that the jews were offered? why is it that no religious text of other peoples ever mentions YHWH and the offer of the covenant?
i find it hard to believe that in the whole world there was no other man of equal moral character to abraham, who would be worthy of such a covenant....
sabin97 4 months ago
@sabin97 Well God promised Abraham the land and he told him its dimensions and said he would bless all nations through him and that his descendants would fill the earth.It has a earthly and and a spiritual fulfillment.Abraham's descendants were given the land and blessed and all nations of the earth were blessed through him as those who walk in the faith which Abraham had are his spiritual descendants.God is going to give the land to all the earth.
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS
"Well God promised Abraham the land" my question was more in the lines of
why was this offer made by only to abraham? what was so despicable about the rest of humanity that the only man worthy of even visiting was abraham? why not a mayan? or an aztec? or someone in japan? or a native australian? what was so despicable about the rest of humanity???
sabin97 3 months ago
@sabin97 They were not despicable it just that humanity as a whole like to be rebellious and don't like to listen.Watch now how the promise of eternal life is made and now how few accept it he was the only one at that time who would probably listen to and seeking God.
So you can use now as a reference that just because you are offered something that you will take it and just because you don't understand all that happened in the past it does not mean that the way it was painted to you is how it
AURORACELLIAULOS 3 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS
so the only non-rebelious man was abraham??
there was absolutely noone else in the whole world who was worthy of even talking to?
no other human being was worth the time to talk to and make a covenant? i find that somewhat odd......of all of humanity only abraham was worth it.....
sabin97 3 months ago
@sabin97 Noah was the only man in his time and his family was saved as well because of him so it should be no shock.The reason why God gave Abraham the land and made the promise to him was because he wanted his word and a people to show the plan of salvation. There were allot less people their at that time and just like Mary was the only one maybe he was the best to use but that does not mean that he was the only one saved at that time.
AURORACELLIAULOS 3 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS
so at that time there were no people in the rest of asia and africa?america?australia?
my question was why only abraham? were the rest of the peoples of the world so worthless as to not even show your face to them or let them know you exist?
seems pretty harsh(and extremely unlikely)
sabin97 3 months ago
@sabin97 First of all don't know how far people had spread at that time and of all the people at that time and there were not as much as today maybe in the millions or less.Out of all them he chose Abraham for it seems only he was able to do what the Lord wanted like leave his people and believe that he would get a son even in his old age.Sacrifice his son his only son which God had promised and told him through which the entire earth would be blessed.Abraham was the best just as Mary was best.
AURORACELLIAULOS 3 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS
"First of all don't know how far people had spread at that time" i'll give you an idea,
the inca empire already existed at that time. so if there were civilizations in america there probably were in asia, australia, africa, and europe.....
".Abraham was the best just as Mary was best." based on what criteria? seems to be an arbitrary decision.
strangely enough YHWH was unknown in america, until the spaniards imposed christianity as the new religion.....
sabin97 3 months ago
@sabin97 is so let go of the past and take the opportunity now because we cannot change the past and will never fully know what transpired but we have the now to act upon.
AURORACELLIAULOS 3 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS
"and will never fully know what transpired"
if that is true, then why do so many religious people speak as if they know for sure? why the pretense?it seems to me like those people make assumptions and then say "this is 100% true, because i can feel it....and so it MUST be true"
sabin97 3 months ago
@sabin97 I said we will never fully know.I didn't say we didn't know because it has been left to us a detailed and accurate record of what happened in the past.It is 100% true because it gives details which are both good and bad about the characters and the archeological evidence is there to support the bible and it all comes down to prophecy which happened as said and the time of the beginning and end of some prophecies you can link to events as well.
AURORACELLIAULOS 3 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS
ok so what exactly do you mean by "will never fully know what transpired?
also no other person on earth(other than abraham) was worthy of even talking to?
of all the people in america, africa, asia, australia and europe only abraham was worth talking to?
sabin97 3 months ago
@sabin97 ears from hearing his words as they do so willingly and to their own detriment as there is only one sin that cannot be forgiven and that is rejection of the Holy Spirit who leads men into the truth and repentance and when you have rejected the Holy spirit for so long you see that you cannot repent since you have become death to its pleadings. God loves everyone but he hates sin and loves the sinner and those who listen to him as they were sinners who decided to turn away from sin and
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
@sabin97 have faith in him who gave his Son for the world and took the penalty of the race and his death is the death of God which has a higher price than the price of an angel or created being.It also is a sacrifice and a willing one as he will forever be a human being one of us and Gods tabernacle will be brought to this world and there will be no more sea. He pays the price for all the sins we ever have done in our lives and we need only ask the father in the name of Jesus and we will be
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
@sabin97 forgiven as he is our intercessor.he also gave many promises of the things he would do for his people.We will get the tree of life that was originally supposed to be our birthright and become like the Angels and see the sights of the universe and learn without that knowledge being corrupted or forgotten.
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
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@sabin97 everyone accountable for their own should and the one which Jesus more than once quoted and fullfilled and expanded upon.Here are two this gospel shall be preached to all men and then shall the end come.Shall day shall not come until that man of sin be revealed the son of perdition. The Daniel prophecy gives a clear time until the messiah should come.
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
@sabin97 nation of Israel to keep it as a nation from becoming like our society today.Now you say about reading the bible but even if you read the whole bible and not understood it it is as if you learned nothing and it would be better for you to learn one passage and understand it in its entirety.There is a reason he said bind it on your heads and hands but what it meant was keep it in your mind and do it. The Ten commandments are what God requires of us not stoning which if we did now
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
@sabin97 we would be guilty in today's law and rightly so because Jesus came to die for all our sins and made it so that all can come to the father through him.So I ask you where have you ever seen Jesus quote stone someone or do this based on the laws you just quoted and the I have read the bible and am not extensively as allot have but i know a good bit.
Have you even looked up the great Controversy the book i told you about.The bible is not lies but to those who want to learn the truth it is
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
@sabin97 it is the best book out there and can be equaled by no other.The bible has prophecy and as i was telling someone the prophecies of Daniel extend to our time and and told the time of the messiah and the Kingdoms that would arise after one another and affect his people. I agree with you that allot of people don't read the bible and many don't seek understanding to learn what the bible teaches but depend on their superiors to tell them this and that.So the ten commandments were always
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS
can you name one prophecy that is specific, clear, non-ambiguous, that we can actually test if it happens or not? or are they all like nostradamus, who made such ambiguous "predictions" that anyone can associate it with anything: "there will be war and terrible natural disasters"(there has been war since the dawn of man, and also natural disasters, so that "prophecy" would always be true)
sabin97 4 months ago
@sabin97 there but they had to be written down to a people who had been so long in the land of Egypt and who had forgetten the law of god.The sabbath was there from the beginning that is why it said remember the sabbath day to keep it holy.Six days shall thou labour and do all thy work but the seventh is the sabbath of the lord as he made it Holy and rested on it in the creation week.To blaspheme is a no no and Idolatry and killing and all these that were known.So Gods 10 are based on love.
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
sabin97 4 months ago
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@sabin97 you have alot of miss conception but God said he is a Father not a mother and not it so and the cattle on a thousand hills are his as he is King.God creates and is in no need of reproductive organs but he specifically refers to himself as a he and in the human race man came first and then woman. When he said he rested does not mean that he went oh that took a lot out of me it is rested from the work that he was doing and spent time with man as he sanctified with himself and spent time
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
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@sabin97 with man.When God says he is jealous there is a reason God created us there is no other God which we should be giving the praise and honor.It is just like a parent which brought you into this world and you are giving a mannequin or another being who doesn't not deserve it the thanks.God has feelings and rights but the reason why god is jealous is because nothing good will come out of going against or to another god. Answer me this how many times did God have to send plagues for the
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
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@sabin97 Egyptians to listen 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9, and then he had to do something drastic just so that they could let the Israelites go.That just goes to show you how many times God showed mercy on them and it was only on the first born when he could have made a massacre.That just goes to show you how long suffering God is to people and how he does not take life for granted and how many times he showed them his power and they did not heed and then they were warned and after that the Egyptians
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
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@sabin97 still went after them to capture them after that.Pretty hard headed huh.She did not have any qualms about it and was happy did you see Jesus getting abused was it your womb no then you have nothing to say as it was not fertilization as we know it he simply took on human flesh.God judges and simply takes back the life that he gave and it was God who gave the command and he used the Israelites to Judge the nations at the time who were Idolaters and it was God who won the battle for
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
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@sabin97 the Israelites and gave them strength.Sometimes with only a handful of Israelites battles were won and it was all due to God who takes care of his people and those who put their trust in him.Jesus sacrifice was necessary in many way.The wages of sin is death,the soul that sinneth it shall die,without a shedding of blood which is life there is no remmission of sin Heb 9:22-10:22.When he gave his life willingly as he did not sin so that the price for our sins can be paid through his
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
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@sabin97 eternal sacrifice as his blood is the blood of the Son of god which has more value than a created being and he is to be in this body forever more no longer like his father only spirit but with this body though it will be perfect and after eating from the tree of life for so long he will be taller. Sacrifices were done to show that you were willing to sacrifice what you had for God and your devotion.The earth and all the heavens is the Lord but he wants us to put effort,time and what he
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
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@sabin97 gives us as the talents life and energy we have are his and we can learn and grow through giving and sharing and being a servant like he was while he was on earth.He does it for our blessing so that we can be part of his work and he can use us to do that which is good.Favorites as God loves all who obey and trust him and even loves those who don't as he gives them time to repent and come to him and as it says send the rain on all.The punishment is infinite not the punishing as in I
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
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@sabin97 will burn only for for the sins I have committed in this life and it will be according to the sins I have done and then I will be eternally obliverated as in no more me forever so the punishing is for a moment as some will burn for a minute and some for longer as this whole earth will be on fire and will be purified through it.Just as the world was purified through water but it was not fully as the fossils of creature and oil is still here but all this will be burnt up and the
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
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@sabin97 earth will be recreated and the city of God will come down out heaven oh and i just remembered this before Mary became pregnant the Angel Gabriel the one God uses allot since he was sent to Daniel and Jesus' cousin John six months before and he might take the place of Lucifer.Before she became pregnant she was told of what would happen and she did not say no I want to keep my youthful figure and was not against her will. Heaven is there right now Hell will be a moment.Read The Great C
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
twist twist twist twist the truth,
the bible's full of shit and so are you son
IRFodder 7 months ago
@IRFodder Lol the dead knoweth nothing and you are spiritually dead to say such a thing and know nothing of wisdom for the fear of the Lord is the beginning of all wisdom.The Lord is wonderful and majestic and we are not worthy of his love but he gave it to us and continues to but you still reject it. You know nothing of true love to love unselfishly. And no am not high am just making an observation.
AURORACELLIAULOS 4 months ago
you do relise that the flat earth was inspired by the curch right and if any one thout other wise they woul be proscuted ....... srry for mis spelling im dyslexic
theatheistpreacher 7 months ago
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@theatheistpreacher The "church" (Rome) was not a believer in the Bible.
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in: Isaiah 40:22
Flat Earth Myth Invented by Evolutionists
h t t p://w w wDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=4_nV-UrmYdM
BereanBeacon1 7 months ago
Is three demensional means seeing in three sections of an object?
MCAmbitious 8 months ago
Science has shown us that the elements obey preexisting orders written in and by the function of many of the most common elements. It is a true statement to say that the elements obey a preexisting word. The function that hydrogen has inside of us shows us that the entire universe made of hydrogen and derivatives has a Maker of that function. Every other function has a maker and no other function is nearly as advanced as the nano mechanics and technology utilized in life forms.
JungleJargon 8 months ago
i'm gonna go listen to the mortal kombat song
cryptexify 10 months ago
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@cryptexify Your time is near.
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:10,11
BereanBeacon1 10 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 Jesus predicted that his return would be in the first century AD. After nearly two thousand years, it's time to accept that you got stood up, pay your check, and walk out of the restaurant with what dignity you have left.
TrevorBlack79 10 months ago
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@TrevorBlack79 Jesus did not say that he would come back in the first century.
AURORACELLIAULOS 5 months ago
@BereanBeacon1 Lol u actually belive that crap??? XD
rbouverat 9 months ago
But...Christianity IS the moral equivalent of believing in Santa Claus!
donfishmaster 10 months ago
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@donfishmaster Your time is near.
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:10,11
BereanBeacon1 10 months ago
some people....
yourcathatesme 10 months ago
"Science derived from a christian world view." at 5:54 "It required a christian world view." umm... Which part?
billyjoejimbob75 10 months ago
Bishop Isidore of Seville (560 – 636) taught in his widely read encyclopedia, the Etymologies, that the Earth was round and "resembles a wheel".[Resembling Anaximander in language and the map that he provided, this was widely interpreted as referring to a flat disc-shaped Earth
arkica44 11 months ago
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@arkica44 Is 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Were the sun and moon flat as well?
BereanBeacon1 10 months ago
the bible says the world is flat. and the bible pre-dates the "discovery" of the americas
inechiSAN 11 months ago
@inechiSAN Where in the bible?
Tfoutside 10 months ago
@Tfoutside the bible that doesnt have the words america on it
inechiSAN 10 months ago
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@inechiSAN It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Were the sun and moon flat as well?
BereanBeacon1 10 months ago
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@inechiSAN It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:
Were the sun and moon flat as well?
BereanBeacon1 10 months ago
Geocentrism was a Xtian world view.
PikPobedy 11 months ago
Funny how one group of hacks is quoting another group of hacks in order to make a delusional point.
RainerWarrior666 11 months ago
further, because there are now pictures of the earth from space and google earth, it is harder for anyone to suspend their disbelief and accept the flat earth theory. About the furthest creationists will go is geocentricism of nephilimfree. anyway, the transitional forms are there. The DNA test shows it. Embrace the theory of evolution. It's cool!
scarletharlot69 11 months ago
@scarletharlot69 The bible never says the earth is flat get over that and evolution theory is just that a theory on facts which are shaped and twisted how they would like so there is no accountability.DNA just shows that God made us out of the same building blocks.
AURORACELLIAULOS 5 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS Indeed the Bible does not say the Earth is Flat, nor does it say that the Earth is 6000 years old. Nor is it a literalist or fundamentalist document. There are hundreds of thousands of peer reviewed papers supporting the theory of evolution, none supporting special creationism. Case closed get over it! Of course we are made of the same building blocks as other animals, we are distantly related to them.
scarletharlot69 5 months ago
@scarletharlot69 It could be a million but they were not there and there are huge holes in their thoery of evolution no matter how much they polish it up. Firstly how does an animal know what structures it needs to do this and the enzymes,proteins and chemicals to get it all done.How can some animals have instinct programmed into it them and why has their not been a creature that has evolved to live forever.If an animal can evolve then why have humans not evolved to regenerate,breathe
AURORACELLIAULOS 5 months ago
@scarletharlot69 underwater.Jump farther.Become something more than just an intelligent being.So we are related to chickens and cows so are you related to me?How is it some animals become unable to mate after simple changes and we are so different from each other.
Evolution is a theory which takes more faith than does God.Fossil evidence shows animals were larger before like the bible says,there are no fossils of man because the flood was to wipe them out.There is alot of evidence for creation
AURORACELLIAULOS 5 months ago
@scarletharlot69 people just want to look at the evidence against it.DNA shows that we all came from the same designer and there is no evidence of Genetic information being added to DNA.Scientists have been wrong as the science is the same but their conclusions and deductions have been shown to be wrong based on that science.
Case is open and your case and mine is being decided as how we live reflects who we believe in and God saves us from sin and death.Science is nice but cannot be used to
AURORACELLIAULOS 5 months ago
@scarletharlot69 disprove the very God that made them and is above them.You can only see God when you look for him and not him in person but what he does as if he appeared to us all we would die on the spot.
AURORACELLIAULOS 5 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS bit of a non sequiter? Isn't the creation the very word of G-d?
scarletharlot69 5 months ago
@scarletharlot69 They were formed by his word and he said it and it was done.
AURORACELLIAULOS 5 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS clearly the origin of species lies in Evolution, not Special Creation. So it must have been at Her word.
scarletharlot69 5 months ago
@scarletharlot69 Species is a categorizing of the animals that God created nothing less and he is a He.A Father and Son and a holy Spirit.God is a not a her.
AURORACELLIAULOS 5 months ago
@AURORACELLIAULOS so G-d has a cock? How big is it?
scarletharlot69 5 months ago
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@scarletharlot69 Sexual reproductive organs were given to us to procreate God doesn't need it because he just has to say the word and it is done.Remember in the bible it is the man created first God could have done the both of them together but he created man first and then woman. So it is with him and the angel they do not procreate and marry each other so have no need of these organs.
AURORACELLIAULOS 5 months ago
all a bit beside the point. you are quite correct that everyone knew the earth to be spherical. It had been accurately measured (the first estimate was correct) though Columbus used the smallest estimate. Well everyone new amerika was there, see 'Cod: a biography of the fish that changed the world' by mark kurlansky. Creationism is however as ridiculous as the flat earth theory. There is no merit in either, its just that the religious rite is not pushing flat earth theory.
scarletharlot69 11 months ago
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@scarletharlot69 . See, Flat Earth Myth Invented by Evolutionists.
Creationists are very interested in real science, not science fiction.
All evolutionists have is hot air on the mostly anonymous Internet. We have the real science backed up by the $10,000 Life Science Prize.
BereanBeacon1 11 months ago
I'm not going to sit here and post 30 (500-character) posts. I also have a 72-page document that explains the whole flat earth myth. Very few believed the Earth was flat even by 100 A.D. Two or so early church fathers thought it was flat but thousands of other theologians believed the earth was a sphere adn that was what Isaiah taught.
thesacredcowtipper 1 year ago
FSM where are you? Isiah is written in prose and poetic form for one adn there is actually a metaphor inside a metaphor in that one verse. I wrote several songs in my headbanging days adn I am smart enough to know what is being written metaphorically. I think some of you atheists need to take a course in English or creative writing. The Book of Job some 3,500 years ago eluded to GRAVITY-way before science had any grip on it. Do you want the article or not? I will totally prove my point.
thesacredcowtipper 1 year ago
@thesacredcowtipper why not just say sphere, were they retarded. you realize that the earth is not flat, so you take it metaphoricly, thats all
Do you want the article or not-quit making excuses for atheism. I offer to send you an article that explains it all, and you reject it.
thesacredcowtipper 1 year ago
@aussieman1234
You're totally incorrect. The shadow does not cause the phases of the moon. The moon, being separate from the Earth in orientation to the sun, receives light either opposite, perpendicular, equal or parallel to earth. This is because the moon rotates around the Earth independent of our cycle of day and night. The shadow of the Earth is cast onto the moon very infrequently and is known as the Lunar Eclipse. There's a special name for it because it doesn't happen every day.
GiveMeClarity 1 year ago
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HBCjunke 1 year ago
It is even easier than that...the easiest way to disprove this video is as follows
Columbus was sailing to find a new way to the indies. Magellan circumnavigated the world. Or more specifically, he died before he finished and his crew circumnavigated. Furthermore, far earlier the Vikings discovered Vinland, or "Vine land" because they wanted to grow grape vines there. Modern day Newfoundland. and the Chinese came in 1421..or 26..to lazy to look it up. and native americans arrived like 15000B.C.
TheTriangulation 1 year ago
Obviously these morons never heard of Galileo, and what happened to him by the Catholic Church.
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These morons are just wrong and its SAD who ever believes this. Seriously, doesnt these assholes have anything better to do than making excuses for their religion and misinforming people.
This video is utter failure. And goes to show what kind of people they are trying to provoke.
Its just sad.
davelantor 1 year ago
NOOOO!!! *get's gun and shoots brains out*
mariomash808 1 year ago
This one is easy (like all these videos)
The earth was confirmed as a sphere around the time of columbus and meggelan.
The theory of evolution was made around 1850 (2-4 hundred years after we found a round earth)
So this video is nonsense.
markgg1 1 year ago
Uhh.... Colombus WASNT the first to discover the Americas...it was a Norse explorer by the name of Leaf Erikson
,,,and the bible claims the earth is resting on pillars and has four corners. Geometrical shapes with corners tend to have flat sides connecting them, thus the "flat earth myth" came from creationists...
Sorry but you fucked up, try again after you get your facts at least conceptually worked out.
CRUSH3Rdlux 1 year ago
fuck this video. the bible says that the earth is flat. not evolutionists. THE BIBLEEEEEEEEEEEE
aeropostalbaby1 1 year ago
@aeropostalbaby1 - really? where?
brizzoke 1 year ago
@brizzoke PROOF THAT THE WHOLLY BABBLE SAID IT
isiah 11:12 and he shall set up and ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of israel, and gather together the dispersed of judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH
matthew 4:8 again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. (to see all kingdoms from the same mountain the earth must be flat)
aeropostalbaby1 1 year ago
@aeropostalbaby1
1. "Four corners" is an idiom, referring to the cardinal directions
2.The implication in Matthew's account is that the devil showed Jesus a vision of all the kingdoms of the earth. Luke's account clarifies this when he says the devil showed Jesus the kingdoms of the earth in an instant.
Where does it literally, specifically say the earth is flat?
brizzoke 1 year ago
@brizzoke ok, how about the fact that Kepler and Gallileo were excommunicated and arrested for their views of a round world? if we all followed your psychotic book of ramblings, the sun would still be rotating around us and we'd still be kissing the ass of a "god" that's just a ripoff of horus
aeropostalbaby1 1 year ago
@aeropostalbaby1 what happened to Kepler and Galileo was unfortunate, but understand the "church" at that time had little or nothing to do with the Bible. It made up doctrines to allow those in power to stay in power and to make money off the poor. And it handed out far worse punishments to people who translated the Bible in the language of the common people. Btw, not only is the Bible well organized, it is the most widely attested ancient text in the world.
brizzoke 1 year ago
@brizzoke [the "church" at that time had little or nothing to do with the Bible] Despite USING THE BIBLE TO MAKE THEIR CASE AGAINST BOTH OF THEM. But obviously using the Bible, in context, as the is final say-so has "nothing to do with the Bible."
"it handed out far worse punishments to people who translated the Bible in the language of the common people." Actually that is bullshit.
"not only is the Bible well organized" Metamophoses. The Iliad. Gilgamesh. Enuma Elish. All as organized.
onijester56 1 year ago
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Not to mention that the collective compilation of a nation's history, even one that interprets events from an ignorant view, over even a hundred years, has a general organization.
And then adding another compilation spanning at most a few weeks of a person's life...
But, then again, it's no more organized that OTHER AND OLDER TEXTS. Such as Gilgamesh.
"it is the most widely attested ancient text in the world." Actually, a large portion of the specifics in the Bible are false.
onijester56 1 year ago
@onijester56 re: Bible organization, I think you're making too big a deal of that statement. I was simply replying to the claim that it was a "psychotic book of ramblings."
Translator William Tyndale was executed by the Church
Which of the specifics are false?
The reason I say the church at that time had little or nothing to do with the Bible is that it had long departed from the tenets of the faith communicated by Jesus and the Apostles.
Ptolemy's system was not based on the NT.
brizzoke 1 year ago
@brizzoke "too big a deal of that statement" The Bible follows a general historic order. This makes sense in that it was written over time to tell history.
[psychotic book of ramblings.] It actually is. Just because there is a general order based on a historical backbone, that does not mean that it's any less a "psychotic book of rambling". Order and coherence are not always the same.
"Translator William Tyndale was executed by the Church" For HERESAY, for LEADING THE REFORMATION.
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onijester56 1 year ago
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Which then nullifies your claims. And (in fact) the Bible had been fully translated into English NUMEROUS TIMES SINCE THE 600's.
"that it had long departed from the tenets of the faith communicated by Jesus and the Apostles." Actually the tenets remained the same. There was corruption, but the TENETS remained the same.
"Ptolemy's system was not based on the NT." There is virtually no astronomy in the NT. Hence an astronomical system WOULD NOT BE BASED ON IT.
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onijester56 1 year ago
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And AT BEST any astronomy presented in the New Testament is just as valid considered through Figurative, Ptolemic, and Galileic interpretation.
Genesis: the CREATIONS (both of them, a plurality, because there are TWO) are COMPLETELY FALSE. Noah's Flood is also false.
Exodus, IF it DID happen, was not as big as the Bible states it was.
Hell, even Jesus' tale is told with the only consistency the plot that has been used before by other "divine entities".
onijester56 1 year ago
@onijester56 I didn't say they changed the tenets; they departed from them. Meaning, they added to the notion of faith as the means for salvation. There is one creation account. Ch. 2 is an explanation of 1. This is evident by the letter "waw" in the Hebrew. You are saying these things are false with no proof. Yet there are hundreds of fulfilled prophecies concerning Israel and the Messiah, including an empty grave.
brizzoke 1 year ago
@brizzoke "they departed from them." Only, at least generally, so far as was SUPPORTED by either SCRIPTURE or PHILOSOPHICAL REFLECTION/'divine communication'.
Of course in practice there were more-specific, yet also less-common, deviations to accomodate where Scripture either didn't mention or failed to capture truthfully.
"There is one creation account. Ch. 2 is an explanation of 1." Actually, it is not. Hell, the very order of Creation in Genesis 2 contradicts Genesis 1.
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onijester56 1 year ago
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"Yet there are hundreds of fulfilled prophecies concerning Israel and the Messiah" Actually most of the prophecies are so vague that they should be construed to be fulfilled every generation. AND STILL a good amount of them FAIL TO BE FULFILLED.
Hell, God fails to fulfill his own claims and prophecies. Repeatedly and consistently.
"including an empty grave." Assuming that the grave is empty. Assuming that it wasn't grave-robbed or scavanged. Assuming there even was a tomb. And so on.
onijester56 1 year ago
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Part of the Reformation was translation to common language. The official charge against reformers was heresy, but they were being faithful to the original text. Luther challenged anyone to prove him wrong from Scripture, yet no one could, so they tried to kill him.
Jesus' life is unique among others who claimed divinity because of His fulfillment of the Hebrew Scriptures.
Jesus told His critics, "Ye do therefore err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God."
brizzoke 1 year ago
@brizzoke "Part of the Reformation was translation to common language" TRANSLATION TO "vulgar" languages WAS FAR FROM UNCOMMON. And even farther from being punished.
"but they were being faithful to the original text." It was THEIR INTERPRETATIONS OF THE TEXT that was considered heresay.
"Jesus' life is unique among others who claimed divinity because of His fulfillment of the Hebrew Scriptures." Actually Jesus FAILS TO FULFILL the Hebrew scriptures.
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onijester56 1 year ago
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Of course the Hebrew scriptures were themselves developed from older scriptures that were POLYTHEISTIC and BASED ON MYTHS. Many prophecies (especially the Messiah) were nothing new. Especially the plot device that:
A prophecy is made -> The protagonist appears -> He/she fulfills the prophecy -> Things are ended "neatly".
[The application of this is only made clearer as the NT writers' fail to understand the "prophecies".]
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onijester56 1 year ago
@onijester56
It's clear your claims are based on generalities, not on a careful, thorough reading of the Bible. Jesus fulfills prophecies from Genesis through Malachi.
There are similarities in some ancient accounts, but the those have been greatly exaggerated. Where are your sources?
The older scriptures you refer to don't have eyewitness accounts, historical figures, & genealogies
We'll have to agree to disagree on Genesis. I'm reading it in Eng & Heb. Jesus quoted from both chapters.
brizzoke 1 year ago
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And, finally...
[Jesus told His critics, "Ye do therefore err, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God."]
Because obviously philosophical and theological thoughts and concepts from DIVINELY-INSPIRED MONKS AND PRIESTS that STUDY SCRIPTURE FOR MOST OF THEIR LIVES are ignorant of Scripture.
Of course, Jesus' own words there are nothing more than "you are wrong because you dont know what I'm saying". Given that he makes shit up as he goes, such a claim is dishonest at best.
onijester56 1 year ago
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"It made up doctrines to allow those in power to stay in power and to make money off the poor." Those who 'made up' the doctrines were predominately monks and nuns who created them HUNDREDS OF YEARS BEFORE KEPLER OR GALILEO.
Hell, Ptolemy, whose system the Church placed AGAINST GALILEO (and in turn whose system was based on THE EARLIEST COPIES OFTHENEW TESTAMENT) died BEFORE 200 AD.
onijester56 1 year ago
I've never heard of this "flat earth myth". Anyone who knows history knows that a round earth was common knowledge centuries ago, at least amongst the educated at the time. Relatively ignorant sailors may have believed the earth was flat.
I've never heard it specifically associated with religion. It's more the "geocentric universe" that gets that distinction.
Creationists grasping at straws again....
Starbat88 1 year ago
@Starbat88
The video is full of lies, the main one being the lack of emphasis on the general knowledge of the people at the time.
The wise people they mention did exist and they did understand what they did understand, the peoplem is that those people were often shunned, attacked, and exiled for heresy for those discoveries.
The video says nothing of what was done to those whom discovered many facts about the world. round-earth, heliocentric universe, and many other hypothesis were persecuted
Harizl 1 year ago
Alright, I will not talk about the pure stupidity Creationists once again show but- I want to ask one thing the rest of the SANE people around here...
WHY THE FUCK DO WE LET THEM REWRITE HISTORY?!
Razgrits 1 year ago
In realtiy, Columbus along with many Europeans at the time knew that the Earth was fully spheroid. Columbus's real concern was how far he would have travel in order to get to India. We knew that the Earth was round for almost 1700 years before Columbus.
oldblubblub 1 year ago
Flat Earth Myth Invented by Evolutionists NO, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ORIGIN OF SPECIES.
People who wrote the bible thought the earth was flat, Read the first page of the bible!
gregrutz 1 year ago
Ok, Erathosten aready knew about 300 BC that the earth was round and he calculated its size...
but do you guys believe the earth is 5770 years old?
Zzozze 1 year ago
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jymbo1969 1 year ago
you do realize that creationist believed that the earth is flat., not evolutionest. oh and it was thought like this for thousands of years
gphhawkins 1 year ago