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  • nobody cares about your vid... I'm posting to keep you from killing yourself... want more?adsfjkla;sjf;l akldfjadklsfj fkajdfl;d jfakldfja;klj faklfjadl; fkladjfkl;afj LOL

  • Wait some Years, TNA will be bought by WWE.

  • ok ok fuck this, i have no opinion on what makes a good match, why?? cos ive never wrestled, built a ring or sold hotdogs at an arena, so wot would make me think i know better than a veteran or wotever? ego?? stupidity? the desire to criticise cos i never had the balls to actually go train to be in the "buisness"?? so wot will i do instead, ill bitch and moan about a product i am not being forced to watch, sounds about rite?? fuck bill and doug and fuck all the rest of these know it alls

  • in all fairness when i watch tna i feel ike i am getting dumber, maybe it is juts made eclusively for the american audience with little to no attention span, but even a child can see that tna is retarded, whihc is bad, because they have so much potential, yet they capitalize on about 5% of it

  • abyss! whoa oh!!

  • Bill and Doug aren't fans of the WWE yet they go on and on as if they know better than everyone. Why the double standards?

  • Brian James and Monty Sopp were hired by TNA...

  • know cares about james mitchell..... and everyone know that abyss wouldnt leave TNA come on make sense.... bill and doug are better... sorry no offense

  • Bill and Doug sleep together !! TNA sucks. One Night Stand was better than anything TNA has done this year.

  • I watch your videos alot and you have never sold me to watch ROH....Its funny how you are trying to tell other people how to sell their respective company.

  • LOL! If anything you've pushed me away from ROH. Great point.

  • I use to not like you. but now i do, your not biased like PSPower and Bill and Doug. your not a fucking sell out.

    You have my respect.

  • they are fucking sellouts

  • Bill and Doug are just WWE haters. TNA can be the worst wrestling product on t.v (and arguably it is) but they will still sing it's praises because it's not WWE.

  • bill and doug r being paid by TNA and there living off their subscribers and friends money

    and their were being paid before to do vids about WWE.

  • Honestly, I hate Bill and Doug and think they are some of the biggest marks on the planet.

    However, coming from one of the worst speakers I've seen on YouTube, this is pointless criticism that goes absolutely NO where.

  • Screw smarks I like wer tna is at the moment, catering towards the casual fans i went to the iMPACT tsaping which aired 3 days later on valentines day and it was the best wrestling show i was ever at! To be honest if it was all pure wrestling viewership on any wrestling program would drop significantly thats why its called sports entertainment...a mix of sports 4 all the smarks and entertainment for every1 else

  • i just found out Earl hebnars brother gave out free tickets for Destination-X's PPV last month wow TNA shure can sell *sarcasm*

  • Damn caught out by one of the smartest people of all who believes everything they read on the internet........and spare me the comeback of "no i was actually talking to some1 who was given a ticket"...bullshit

  • ROH should sign TSlayer to do a ROH Addicts show

  • TNA vs WWE:60$

    WWE Marks & TNA Marks Kissing Ass to their Companys:40$

    WWE Marks & TNA Marks Agrueing over Youtube Priceless lol

  • Hey truthslayer nice vid and ive subscribed to u, feel free to do the same. You make good points BUT at points sound wayyy too picky. Also a version w/u and MoralVirus wud be awesome you should def do it.

  • Maybe their show wasn't that good, but remember: this was their first time ever doing it.

  • TNA should sign you instead of Bill and Doug. This is the first video of urs that Ive seen, but ur friggin on the ball! You sell stories and make em good! B&D kiss ass, u actually give emotion! AWSOME VID you just found urself a new subscriber!

  • Doug: "Hey caller, whats your question?"

    caller: "uh, hey.. whats it like to get paid to kiss ass?"

    Bill: "i dunno doug, what do you think? I dont mind if im degrading my soul to look like a shumck on the internet"

    Doug: "i dont mind, i agree with what ever you say... TNA RULEZ, WWE SUCKZ"

  • true dat meahvideos

  • meah videos podcast is 50 times better!

  • I dont Know If anybody will agree with this but I agree with you TSlay1974

  • TNA is undefendable at this point.

  • fuck bill and doug

  • wow, critique a show after one show? watch a few of them THEN decide whether its good or bad. the latest show was much better. and i agree the first was bad, but what do you expect? a couple of youtubers get hired for a pro company, they arent pros. didnt need a 10 min video response.. yet.

  • Dumbass!

  • i have to say i agreed with u at first truthslayer but u gota see it from bill and dougs view,they never done a radio show so yea its gna suck till they get used to it

  • tna dont even pay there talent so i doubt bill and doug will even get a dime out of it.

  • good vid.

  • yo trusthslayer.. why dont u come to hookah radio fill out an application, talk to the owner & see about getting ur own talkshow on air man. theres lots of fans there & it would be a great place for u to talk about what u belive in in wrestling & such.. just check out my profile for more information.. its a place for everyone & some great tunes. the chats 18 & up but its one hell of a place. go there & find out :)u do good videos & would be a good place to check out for ya..

  • if bill and doug can get a job at TNA then you can get a job at wwe.

  • TNA needs Bill and Doug, WWE doesnt need Truthslayer

  • How in the blue hell does TNA need Bill and Doug? For all that matters, TNA needs to focus on their actual product rather than some lame YouTube show.

  • Looks like I found another moron for moralvirus to throw into the wood chipper. You'd be better off as mulch you WWE sheep!

  • great vid, greater comments hahahaha

  • u talked 5 min to sell 1 match they dont have time to do that

  • But the concept is there -- they don't have to do it for as long as him, or word for word. In fact, they script out the show, so they can trim the fact and still sell the one match the same way Josh did, in a shorter amount of time, because they prepared their words and statements.

  • Yes they do they are on the TNA channel which means they have up to an hour I beleave at in rate the first show was about 15min so yes they have the time to do that.

  • Still don't have a real hobby, huh?

  • Fuck off. Why are you even here??? I'm not on your page. Mind your business.

  • why is it james storm and rhino they should have some x diviosn wrestlers in that time of match

  • agree, Kent Jones is better on the mic lol

  • thats like complaining about jr/king tazz/ joey m-cole/coach... T slayer ur a bitch stop being over critical.... get a life and stop making videos every 5 min

  • Fucking idiot. Didn't I just tell you to jump into the wood chipper? What the fuck are you still doing breathing in my fucking air?

  • ur hating on bill and doug

  • And you're a moron hating on the English language, seeing how you butcher it and lack any understanding of the words within that very language. Off with you to the wood chipper -- you'll actually be useful as mulch.

  • I believe moralvirus said it best toward idiots. Into the wood chipper with you!

  • Truth Slayer, Moral Virus, MB Wrestler, Crazy Mike, John Cheese (I might be forgetting some) > All youtubers who bitch and moan about them. kthx.

  • You need a brain apparently.

  • i feel the more you gain respect and gain more fans, you can one day work for ROH, and i'm being serious, i think of myself also as a intelligient international wrestling fan, and personally feel theres prob no one better than you to work with ROH, and even get involved in booking and the general business lifestyle

  • i don't always give you props for all your vids, i mostly agree with them, but i must admit this was on the button mate, awesome video slayer, and i feel you'd do ROH justice if one day, [fingers crossed] you get in contact with them and support them, as you would give an honest potrayal of the future of ROH. 5*****VID!!!!!

  • 411larrycsonka tslay will whoop ur candy ass

  • Another idiot! I'm going to say this before moralvirus does. Into the woodchipper with you!

  • Dont hate Tslay bro.... People always hate when other people are doing good

  • Again with this asinine "logic" about Josh hating on Bill and Doug, when all he did was provide CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM!

    Fucking stupid ass community, I swear to God!

  • dude, i mwan his from the bottom of my heart.

    TNA needs u and mv if they ever want to survive, seriously.

    salute.

  • i agree! i was all for bill and doug but what they just did is crap.

  • GET OFF MY PLANET!

    Fucking moron.

  • You know the drill -- stand behind the last idiot, and when your turn is up, jump into the wood chipper.

    Fucking idiots. Christ you morons seriously need to be done away with -- shame we can't legally exterminate the lot of you, already.

  • You know, I am really starting to think that this so called "TNAbusinessman" is either an alias that wants to make himself seem intelligent and failing miserably or someone that is extremely naive to the business.

  • Which companys dick will TSlay suck after ROH go out of buisness by the end of the year?

    STAY TUNED!

  • And which company will you dickride once TNA goes bankrupt from making stupid decisions and having their heads so far up there asses? Come up with an intelligent comment, countering point, or bathe in stupidity with the rest of the lemmings. Keep the ignorance coming, it's pure hilarity, which is sad.

  • And yet ANOTHER idiot. Fucking hell, you morons are like roaches -- you're everywhere.

    But when the lights come on, you scatter in the face of the truth -- that you're worthless morons talking out of your asses, because you have no actual line of defense against a valid argument.

    Fuck it, wood chipper with you, as well.

  • Your constant bellitling of anybody whose opinions differ to yours just to make yourself feel better is getting REALLY OLD.

    Now please write a 500 word reply full of pointless venom to get all that pent up self hate out of you. I mean, you do it all the fucking time.

  • Maybe if you idiots had VALID opinions I'd care to respect you. But seeing as you don't, and you morons don't fucking matter, I'll proceed to shit all over you as I see fit. Now open your mouth so I can feed you a nice big turd sandwich.

  • I've finally figured you out. You like to knock people down with insults inorder to build yourself up. If that works for you then great, keep on doing that. Keep on trolling peoples comments just to get your "fix". Its really quite pathetic.

  • Now go post yet another rambling video where you attempt to bully someone into agreeing with you with you speaches that you have to type out to remember cause you cant think for yourself and use big long words you dont even understand to make your self feel smart.

    What a fucking loser.

  • See what I mean? Illogical argument. You can't counter what I say, so you attack the manner of my delivery. And you wonder why I insult people like you? Because you're morons, it's the only way you can understand what's being said, because "big words" frighten you. Your kryptonite is clearly a book -- and as far as I can recall, thanks to the great words of Chris Rock, niggers hate books.

  • I countered what you said. I even proved you wrong. I am better.

  • And you refuse to accept that I've proven you wrong. So what's your point?

  • I never said you didn't. But I proved you wrong and you refuse to acknowledge it. Be humble in defeat.

  • I like to try and shut you idiots up. Unfortunately you all just keep coming back with the same illogical nonsense, time and time again. Again, maybe if you morons came up with a logical argument -- perhaps if you tried thinking out a point that showcases you know something -- we'd treat you like human beings. In the mean time, you're not, and we won't. Thanks for failing again, though.

  • The fact that you use the N word shows how fucking stupid you are. What a waste of space.

  • Define the fucking word. I dare you. Let's see if you can fucking do it, because I use it in the original context of the word, not the bastardized form used by ignorant twats who have no understanding about anything.

  • ROH lives on DVD sales and Merchandise. For anyone to say the ticket sales don't make an

    impact I would have to say BS on that. Sixty bucks for a front row seat in Vegas and I didn't see one empty seat in that front row. I also saw people buying about 6 dvds at a time.

  • ROH is not WWE or TNA. It doesn't have to be. It is a INDEPENDENT WRESTLING

    PROMOTION. It doesn't have a billionaire running it. It doesn't have a power

    company mogul's daughter running it. It has a guy that saw a company in

    trouble and came in and opened the check book. When TNA was losing a million

    a year, ROH was turning profit. Because it understands its model. It took

    shots going to San Fran and Vegas. It tested the market and took notes.

  • I keep wondering what is going to happen in about 2 1/2 months when

    Nigel/Dragon/Briscoes and others have their one-year contracts expire. Could

    RoH REALLY survive if some of their main players were offered developmental

    deals w/ WWE or a contract w/ TNA. Sure, they survived before when the TNA

    talent was pulled, and Colt/Sydal left. However, if they lost, say, The

    Briscoes and one or two others...I think they would be FUCKED.

  • That's kind of funny you bring that up. Mind telling the public why TNA can't keep Joe under a full contract with TNA and yet he's still allowed to wrestle in Japan?

    Oh that's right TNA DOESN'T MAKE enough profits. So please enlighten us how does that actually work?!

  • Oh brother. The indy scene is filled with tremendous talents, and ROH can survive on them if push came to shove. They already have a good future in Jimmy Jacobs, Tyler Black, Erick Stevens and Brent Albright, thus far. What's to prevent them from getting guys like Kenny Omega? They lose a few stars, make a few along the way, and continue the trend just like any other promotion out there.

  • Cough Some More Hahahahaha Spot On

  • And yet ANOTHER idiot.

    We may need a second wood chipper to help you drooling, head leaning retards get off this world faster.

  • Great, another fucking moron. Into the wood chipper with you, as well.

    While you all wait on the line, might I suggest you READ the dictionary and look up the word you all seem to love to butcher this week? Oh, right...you idiots can't read, so that would be a waste of time, and paper, as most of you would simply drool all over the bloody books.

  • If you paid more attention to the video, you would know that he gave them props and wants them to get better. Just because they are on a show, does not automatically make them better. Did you guys skim through the video the moment he said something about them?

  • Fuck U All I'll Say Wot I Want

  • Once again, nice response. Must take the effort of a 5 year old to come up with that. Drown in the immaturity pool right along with the others.

  • No, you fucking won't, because you can't spell worth a dick, you idiot. Into the wood chipper with you. You're a fucking waste of life, and a waste of time.

  • Yes I Will U Fucking Internet Bad Boy, I Dont Like Truthslayer Simple As That. Yes Now I Paid Attention He Gives Them Props But I Dont Like His Attitude Hope Your House Gets Burned Down With Your Family Inside(Pretty Harsh I Know). Yes I Can Spell

  • Wah, wah, wah. You know what you sound like to me? A whiney little illiterate bitch who hates that people smarter than him calls him exactly what he is -- a moron.

    "I'll say what I want, even if it doesn't make sense. Wah, the big bad men behind their keyboards are proving that I'm a moron by showing how dumb I sound. Wah, I think I'll try and punk him out by making 'cool' idle threats behind my keyboard so I can show I've got the bigger dick." Pathetic, dude.

    Read a book, and learn something.

  • I Didnt Threaten Jus Said Hope It Happens, But They Get Out Alive. Your Insults Have Hurt Me So Badly, Im Gonna Kill Myself Because Your Smarter Than Me.

  • ur a fucking jelouse bastard

  • And you're a moron that doesn't understand the meaning of the word you just used, nor do you have any listening comprehension skills. You fail at life as that grey matter rattling about in your head is mostly just decoration, so into the wood chipper with you, as well.

  • everything is fucking "cant miss"

  • TNA=WCW.

  • TNA=WCW of 2000.

  • Exactly.

  • TNA Addicts lol XD

  • mark.  roh mark

  • Moron.

    Into the wood chipper with you, you useless twat.

  • nice vid

  • I gave the show one star which is to much!!!!

  • fixated? he hasn't mentioned them in any other video in like half a year.

  • Why are you still breathing?

    Into the wood chipper with you, you useless twat.

  • can i push him into the wood chipper ill give you 5 bucks and a thing of eggs

  • why when someone like josh trys to help out someone people bring up roh..roh is not linked to tna..i say tna suck you say roh blah blah blah just post a your mother joke or somrthing because maybe i might laugh or something instead of just thinking what a moron ps just die already you haters and stop wasting my air..

  • They love bringing up ROH because they have TNA and B&D so far up their asses that they will downgrade anything or anyone that disagrees with them or doesn't praise their precious company. They are little kids who throw temper tantrums when they don't get their way.

  • wow i like you thats werid i dont like anybody but very true..tslay is unbias and tells it the way it is and people dont like that.if i got a tv show like i was offered i would like people to point out what is wrong so i can fix it and stay on the air booya

  • Very intelligent response, I wonder how much effort it took for you to come up with that. I find it pretty telling that when two people talk about your ignorant comment your only response is "Get off his dick." Typical B&D fanboy, continue to drown in your immaturity.

  • hes jealous that roh wont give him something like that come on dude if you really cared about wrestling you wouldnt make a video concerning bill and doug you would make a video about something important

  • He's made much more videos about wrestling than about B&D. He's only made a small amount of B&D videos. I'm not even going to bother with the jealousy argument, it's hopeless. Some of you guys clearly don't know what jealousy means. So because he makes a video giving two very popular TNA wrestling fans advice, he doesn't care about wrestling?  Man, sometimes I just don't get you guys. Watch his videos more and perhaps you would know that he cares very deeply about wrestling as a whole.

  • well actually ive seen most of his videos ive been around since when he was truthslayer and not tslay and i used to like his videos but lately i dont know i just cant really relate with what he is saying

  • How the fuck did your mother manage to forget to flush after she squatted you out of her herpes infested twat during a trip to the bathroom during her high school prom night. Fuck you idiots are annoying and dumb.

    You know the drill -- the line is over there, be sure to jump in head first into the wood chipper, you useless fucking waste of life.

  • jealous

  • moron

  • Moron.

  • thats all i could come up with lol

  • haha...maybe they need the guy formerly known as damien demento on there too...j/k....has anyone see his latest stuff?? it's soo bizzare! :S

  • If you are a true wrestling fan, please send an invite to this account. I will accept no matter who you are.

  • I didn't know constructive criticism meant "hating". Did you seriously even pay attention to the video? Some of you guys are such ass kissers that the moment someone offers advice or criticizes them, you guys get butthurt and say that he's jealous. Face it, the show sounded scripted and he sold it much better than they did. All he's saying is that they need to sell the matches and the shows a lot better if they want to convince the fans to watch. Doesn't sound like jealousy there now does it?

  • How can he be jealous...when TNA is not producing? It's like working for SEGA at 2001 when the Dreamcast just wasn't producing. They are working only until TNA goes away. To be really honest, it's a publicity stunt.

  • LMFAOOOO GOOD VID!!!

  • The really only good thing out of this is maybe Bill and Doug will stick to talking about TNA only now, and less WWE bashing (and contradictions) TNA prob wont let them talk about WWE, why else would they delete their fav wrestlers list which included a few WWE wrestlers. and all their vids.

    Great vid btw

  • I dont think Bill and Doug have a say in what they talk about or how they say it. It sounded so scripted, even the "open forum" part. I don't think I will be tunning into TNA Addicts or w/e its called soon..

  • b&d got there dream job but wait till they have to sell a blackrain match as a good thing it will be funny ..in any event the day tna becomes a threat to wwe vince will out spend them and steal all there talent until he destroys them

  • i thought u were gonna bash them unmercifully, but you actually did a better job of selling the feuds. i think they were overscripted but its the first show and hopefully things will improve. damn i'm writing as ur talkin and imma go and buy Destination X from last year. lol

  • Truthslayer, you deserve to have a radio show 1000x more than bill and doug, I hope you get one some day

  • Juggalo, he hardly ever talks about B & D unless it is demanded. Please shut the hell up.

  • dude...get off of B&D's nuts already! why do you always talk about them? It's not doing any good to you or them. do like a have school-girl crush on them that you have to talk about everything that they say or what?

  • You're illiterate, thus invalidating your point. You fail, moron. But thanks for attempting to contribute.

    Next idiot ready for embarrassment? I'd like to get you all out of the way before the day is done. Just form the line next to the wood chipper and jump right on in when you're up.

  • They simply cannot put on the same quality cards they have in the past. One

    thing that hurt ROH starting around the end of 2006 is that they had no choice

    to but to put in some "filler" material. They were simply out of

    talent options. I don't see that trend stopping in 2008 as they have already

    announced that some of the ROH stars will miss time with Japan comittments and

    as a cost-reduction measure.

  • Fucking hell this is dumb. Maybe you didn't pay attention to the "filler" material in the undercard from 2002 through 2006, and continues on now?

    You also failed a reading exam, because ROH is pulling stars out of some of their Japan commitments, and are scaling back, considerably, on bringing in special attraction talents, something they should be doing anyway.

  • Read what I said again dumbass.

  • "I don't see that trend stopping in 2008 as they have already announced that some of the ROH stars will miss time with Japan comittments and as a cost-reduction measure."

    Your words -- you said ROH stars will miss time with Japan commitments, it's the opposite. See, you are an idiot. Thanks for proving it for me.

  • Just making sure you can read. I know your a liitle slow. Don't call me stupid I have an IQ over 130 and I'm in university taking business courses. You live with your parents and your unemployed. If you want to get personal we can get personal.

  • This shit's been personal since you claimed to be a human being, when you're clearly not. Sorry I actually can't tolerate your stupidity, and stupid "people" like you. Sorry I actually accept logic over fanboyistic day dreams of delusions. Sorry I don't like dealing with pathological liars, such as yourself, Mr. TNA "finnancer."

  • Your the fucking idiot. I made a fake Larry csonka account and you actually believed I was him. That's how stupid you are.Why would Csonka watch your gay videos??? Also Truthslayer thouth I was Csonka to. Your both stupid in my opinion. Your my puppet Jarrod I'm the one pulling the strings. Just remember that.

  • Uh-huh...

    Yeah, I bought it for about a day, and then realized things weren't adding up between his messages in the 411mania inbox and over here. Yeah, I'm so stupid that I can't see the two didn't add up to equate to the same person's thoughts.

    Don't confuse the fact that I didn't bring any attention to the situation with me buying into it all this time.

  • Is there an actual page which can be used to link people to to listen to or download your podcasts directly, or is it just linked in some of your articles whenever one is done and up for downloading? I ask because I figured, from time to time, I could just plug it in some of my videos, and it certainly would be easy for plugging in our articles. HA HA!!! Your so stupid Jarrod. You bought it for like a month!!! I've got your number boy!!!

  • Oh, wow, you've got a "lot" on me, posing as someone else on YouTube for no apparent reason. Yeah, I'm the pathetic loser, and you're the man with the brilliant life, with all your free time being utilized to "expose" me and my "treachery." You so got me in a bind here...

    Fucking loser.

    Go make another million fake accounts, and then bitch and whine when I block them because you're being an annoying douche.

  • No you block me because I prove you wrong so you have to get Truthslayer to fight your battles for you.

  • I blocked you because you were an annoying twat, and I didn't want to put up with your fallacies that week. As a matter of fact, I was going to unblock you, but I certainly see you have your out around that, with your multiple fake accounts, so you might as well start using one of those to harass me with, as you come up with more bullshit and lies to defend TNA.

  • Besides, you're fucking pathetic. You made a fake account, posing to be Larry Csonka for what reason? What was your payoff there?

    You can claim my life is pathetic because I'm unemployed and what not, but what makes your life so much better than mine, as you sit there behind your keyboard typing about shit you don't know about, holding delusional fantasies of a life that's not yours, complaining about me just because I'm smarter than you.

  • Making you believe I was Csonka was hillarious. The fact that you bought it makes you stupid in my opinion. I know losers like you and Truthslayer cream there pants whenever some famous internet writer is around. I should've fired you!!! That would've been bittersweet!! Your clearly not smarter then me if I can fool you like that. The finnancial advisor thing is just a gimmick.

  • Get a life, loser. Seriously -- and make sure it's one that doesn't revolve around being an internet troll, complaining about people vastly smarter than you. Fucking moron.

  • You get a life. Your no worse then I am. Repeatedly coming back here to insult people to make yourself feel superior. What did you do all day???? I was in school and you were sitting at home insulting people just because it relieves all the pain you suffered in high school. People like me played sports and got laid. You probably sat in the corner in the cafeteria with your trenchcoat mafia friends.

  • That's obviously a lie, considering you couldn't get through a four-sentance message without making six spelling/grammatical errors.

  • Umm..You know TNAbusinessman, I don't really think you know what the word "marketing" means. I suggest you look it up. Because your demographic all it is really people who don't like the WWE and try to find something "different". But yet it's the same damn thing, so try to market different.

    Take a page from Sony, seriously.

  • Make no

    mistake, without DVDs, ROH would not be here.

    Also, ROH cannot risk going into new unproven markets at this time. Look at

    the Chicago Spectacular shows or the Las Vegas show from this year to see how

    much a quality ROH show depends on the crowd.

    ROH's bigger problem is that they are running out of top notch indy talent.

  • They've done Chicago shows time and time again, so you've proven, once again, you don't know dick about what you're talking about. The Vegas show flopped because the venue had an age restriction, thus turning away crowds because they were too young to enter the building. The San Fran show failed because the event it was apart of was poorly run, and not only that, but the venue was too big for ROH to have filled on their first run in the Bay area. But their UK and Japan tour were both successful.

  • Stop finding excuses to cover up the flaws of ROH. Most of ROH's fans are adults so once again I've proven you wrong. TNA has never run shows in Canada but yet they got over 2,000 fans.

  • Ummmm 2005 anyone??? Moron.

  • TNA has done working deals with Border City Wrestling in 2005 thanks to Scott D'Amore, so you're wrong there. See the trend?

    ROH didn't do shows, officially, in Japan -- just sent out their talents for exposure thanks to a working relationship with NOAH -- and they drew in 1,800 fans on their OWN name. TNA does a show in Japan with NJPW at the Tokyo Dome, and draws in a pitiful for the Dome, 26,000 WITH NJPW. See the difference?

  • Do you know, exactly, how many teenage fans there are for ROH? ROH's main core ranges from 18-35 male demographic, much like WWE and TNA, but it also appeals to YOUNGER teens and children the same way WWE and TNA do. Also, families do attend these shows, surprisingly enough. So yes, the Vegas show being a flop because of the age restriction did hurt, and no, it's not an excuse. Maybe if we were talking about TNA, instead, you'd agree with that statement, but of course you won't.

  • isnt saying without the dvds ROH wouldnt be here kinda like saying without the good, there would be bad?

    And of course TNA can "risk going into new unproven marktets" they are owned by a Parent Company. They have money from Panda. But lets all remember that WCW had money from Turner and Time Warner (thats an embelishment but you get the point) and where is WCW now? Its almost pointless to compare a fed owned by a parent company with a tv deal to an indy fed (even if its a good one)

  • I have to take issue with the suggestion that ROH makes money off their ticket

    gate. No chance that happens. The business model they run under appears to

    be: hopefully cover the cost of the venue and production, maybe some of the

    talent costs with ticket sales and make up the rest on DVD sales.

  • When proven wrong, turn to a different well that looks the same, and hope for a different result. Lovely plan there.

    Everything washes over the other, and the ticket sales, along with the DVD sales, and the other merchandise sales, helps to pay for everything done. The business model works, that's why they're not losing money, only generating an effect where the money isn't coming in fast enough to cover all of their expenses - creating the illusion of losing out on money.

  • No there is no ilusion there losing money. There not getting the money in to cover the costs.

  • Are they in the red? Are they now no longer turning a profit? Or are they simply not getting the money quick enough to cover their expenses?

    You talk about things you have no true understanding about, and you're a pathological liar trying to add worth to your pitiful life. The "finnancer" of TNA, and you can't figure out that cut backs are normal in business? That it's not a sign of losing money, just a sign of a company trying to step up their profit lines? You can't see that?

  • appears to be? man i want to trust what youre saying...