Because dr. drunk carrot juice with poison and he regenerated after turbulences (he banged him head)
and in this regeneration scene didnt play colin baker but masked Sylvester McCoy (BBC took Colin Baker of the work and he didnt wants to film regeneraiton scene)
Colin Baker was far to violent to be a Doctor and he got very angry. Every Doctor had good points but for me i found it hard to watch Colin. Golden Age of Doctor is 2nd through to 5th if it wasn't for caves of Androzani 5th may have missed out. You have to admit Davison played his heart out in that serial. Tennant was good as well
@MrBacktothenineties Actually, Colin Baker was fired, that is the reasons they did that. As a matter of fact, I couldn't notice it until I saw it in the comments.
I see nothing wrong with the scene. He was in the process of regenerating. It's very easy to pass it off as a half-done deal rather than go off on how crappy the effect may be. Most of their effects were crappy. This isn't news.
Grades treatment of Doctor Who in its final classic period is disgraceful.
It is and always has been the perfect show for the Saturday teatime slot.
But in the final years it was moved to Monday nights in a timeslot that is still a dead period for the BBC due to the popularity of Coronation Street. And the inevitable sharp drop in viewing figures gave him the perfect excuse to take it off the air
@ndkbse Not to mention the fact he was going out with Colin's ex-wife when he fired him and he slashed the budget after he insulted the production values
Well Colin Baker refused to come back due to the nature of his depature and, in those days, as I recall regenerations were done on screen (I don't think they pulled an off screen one until the first episode of the new series) so I guess they were stuck.
I DO agree they could have done a better job of hiding his face AND that he was wearing a wig, either that or find a body double for Colin.
@LibraGamesUnlimited Not true. Troughton was changed BY the TimeLords, but we never see the regeneration. The new series (The first in colour) starts with Pertwee stumbling out of the TARDIS!
@DrWhodini1 Yes and no. It's been awhile but I DO recall seeing the start of it. Sure we get the whole 'blow by blow' but it does start. :)
I've also wondered if it really counts as a regeneration since I don't recall the term being used (but I'm not sure the term had been made up at that point) so it could be a loophole to buy the Doctor another life. :)
Troughton just pulled a few funny faces, they did a couple of lens effects (multiple faces) and that was the end of the episode (and the series).
As far as I am aware, Time Lords can regenerate indefinitely, but society dictated 13 regenerations - A kind of etiquette. Also, one could argue, that with NO Time Lords left (cue 3rd Master appearance) the whole balance has changed and he could change as many times as required. Either way, there is a legitimate 'out'.
@DrWhodini1 Yeah somehow 13 got set as an accepted limit but it's not really. Seems to me that the High Council had a great deal of control over the whole thing since they offered the Master a new series of regenerations in "The Five Doctors" and apprently when they brought him back for the Time War they either gave them to him or it was part of the process. Also Romona seemed able to change at will (even if it was played for laughs as the time).
@mo21nk AS I remember it was first mentioned during the Davison years that a Time Lord has 12 regenerations, and it was later implied that it was an 'agreed' limit rather than a physical fact. Whatever is 'the truth', with The Doctor being the last of the Time Lords, I guess there would be no 'agreed' limit any more. Which is great, because that means my quest to be a future Doctor is still viable :D
@DrWhodini1 guess thats true.but think i kind of like that there is a possible end to the doctor.i was thinking he would at the end of 12 lives then come up with a way to continue.it doesent sound like him,but maybe he has a really good reason to need to survive.but you are right guess the timelords do make up the rules,but have to follow them also.
@mo21nk I see what you mean. I agree with you sort of about the way of having new regenerations, but I always thought it would be an accidental thing that happeneds, because he wouldn't really do it himself
Michael Grade- Absoloutely deluded bastard for getting rid of Colin- he's even up his ass about himself right now about shows like Doctor Who on tv. I'd like to see him try and play the fantastic Doctor Colin Potrayed- I'd like to see how he would feel if his imaginary Boss just punched his lights out and told him he was fired... The firing of Colin Baker- The Axing of Doctor Who - will always be on his hands like blood- bloody embarassing human being...
@RegenerationStorm yes i agree colin was good.i like him most in is dalek cyberman episodes mark of the rani and time lash.and i still have more to see
@MrBacktothenineties That's only because Colin Baker was fired from the BBC and didn't want to be in the regeneration scene because he felt he had been treated unfairly.
@MrBacktothenineties Of course you were disappointed, it was the new Doctor with a wig! But they couldn't really start without regeneration, it made no sense.
I never liked the 6th Doctor that much as portrayed on the TV, but the audio stories were wonderful. Which means the TV Doctor was bad due to bad scripts not due to Colin Baker which is really a shame. He could have been much more if they had had good script writers - same goes with the 7th Doctor.
As much as I love Dr Who, old and new, this clip, explains the ratings slip. I now understand why it went off the air in the late 80's, I never saw much of the Baker-McCoy doctor's. That cartoonish TARDIS crashing was... well, a little too over the top cheesy.
I liked it when regeneration was a seldom used plot device for narrative convenience rather than what it is now: a staple of the show trotted out whenever the viewing figures is waning and they need some sensationalist fake-regeneration to give it a boost.
its the BBC' fault they made colin wait 18 months and he wanted to do a full third season for repay but they refused so colin refused to do a regeneration sequence.
@Supergamerkid64 He had a three year contract - when the show went on an 18 month hiatus, those 18 months were counted into those 3 years. After that, his contract was not renewed - I would be pissed too if that happened to me.
@yscaray Because the man responsible for the show at the time, Michael Grade, was a bastard. He complained about the show looking so cheap AFTER he had cut its budget, never liked it anyway and just sought a way to axe the program. After Baker's first season, he axed the next one, so DW went on an 18 month "Hiatus" beforebeing revived with "The Trial of a Time Lord", after which Baker's 3 year contract wore out (they counted the hiatus in) and it was not renewed. Baker was pissed.
@GlowWorm1962 You've obviously never listened to the Big Finish Audios with Colin. He's like, the best of the bunch. He just didn't get any good scripts.
@GlowWorm1962 Dude. You got it wrong. Colin Baker was a great doctor surrounded by bad scripts and acting. Sylvester McCoy sucked the first two years. But then he was OK in his last year.
If anyone is unhappy about 6's departure read the Doctor Who book Spiral Scratch. It gives 6 the true send off he deserves. It has him already regenerating when the Rani attacks and his last line is so heartbreaking. "I just want to see the cosmos one last time. Perri, are you there? I wish you were here."
Y'know, despite the bad effects (bad, I'm assured even for the eighties), there's something insanely magical about this moment. In regards to the story itself, I don't think it's anywhere near as bad. It's a Pip and Jane story, meaning it's a good tale with a few silly bits. Yes, the Rani disguising herself as Mel was a silly plot device, but it did allow some intresting revelations about their relationship.
@JoeConcerts oh man i hope not lol. i really like the river character and im not alone in thinking the her and the doc were ( will be ) at least intimate at some point if not married. there were rumors circulating of the rani being the doctors twin sister ( they have the exact same age) so the doc/river romance would just be ... disturbing haha
As much as I like seeing crappy eighties special effects turning bewigged Sly McCoy into unbewigged Sly McCoy, couldn't they have done this regeneration with a little more style and discretion. If Colin Baker didn't come back for the scene and 6's face was going to be obscured anyway, why not just not bother..have 7 stumble out of the TARDIS in 6's costume or not show him until he wakes up on The Rani's lab table later on...
@MrBacktothenineties Indeed. I would have rather him stumble from the TARDIS like Pertwee or have this mysterious character show up who later turns out to be the new Doctor.
It *was* understandable that Colin Baker refused to return to the show to film the regeneration scene...considering the fact that the BBC had made Colin redundant...he just didn't want to be bothered with a company t6hat disposed of his services so abruptly...
@BadNews88 The reason was, if I remember correctly, Baker had refused to come back to film the regeneration scene so McCoy with a wig was a stand-in for the absent Baker. Obviously this doesn't matter when he's lying face down, but it would have been harder if he'd had to be shown taking the injuries and falling to the floor and using stock footage would have made the difference in height, build and the like between Baker and McCoy as his stand-in more noticeable.
In all seriousness, can someone explain to me HOW he got injured to regenerate here? I havent seen this episode yet but can't seem to find any definative reason as to it at all either. Hit his head, force a regeneration?
@Crosis2814 One theory that popped up in the 90's new adventures novels was that the Seventh Doctor basically, killed the 6th to regenerate. Complex I know.
@Crosis2814 the half assed reason in this is that he hits his head off the console, but one book (i forget the name...spiral something XD) says he absorbed energy and his last words were ''you want me to become a god?''
I feel so bad for Colin. He did a great job! 6 is definetly in my top five favorite Doctors list! And look at the regeneration he got. Ridiculous. It's a crime. And, as other people have already said, from this moment on the series went downhill, culminating in that unfortunate movie. *shakes head* Ah well, at least we have the new series now which is AMAZING. Or, at least it was when Eccleston and Tennant were at the helm...not sure how I feel about Smith yet....
The BBC just took the pure p*ss out of Colin Baker, they got him to wear that horrid outfit for a few seasons treated him badly then sacked him handing over the role to Sylvester mc Coy, this is when Doctor Who went down hill from here onwards.
@E9ODOC7890 - IMO it went downhill after the fourth doctor's era - if it hadn't been for men like Colin, Peter and Sylvester the series would have died a lot sooner... and if it hadn't have been for Paul and Big Finish the series would have stayed dead - RTD might not even have bothered to bring it back! And Tennant would never have acted in the audio play that the crew heard him in :p
I've just watched Dragonfire and Remembrance of the Daleks and I must say Sylvester McCoy is brilliant, why do all these youngsters glorify Tennant? He's not even the best of the new series.
@CardClashersHub CardClashersHub. I used to respect you. Now you're being, well,I better not say what you are being,but seriously. Mccoy is awesome. Shut up.
@CardClashersHub Oh and,how much classic who have you watched? Seriously? Have you seen The Curse of Fenric? Ghost Light? Survival? If you seen any of those you'll know how freaking awesome Sylvester Mccoy is.
@chasla99 they are. Timelord regenerate when they suffer mortal injury, old age or severe illness. The body cells change to reverse damage and in a sense, reverse the biological clock. As a result of this, they change appearance and look younger. Another side effect is that the brain cells change a little as well, resulting in "erratic behaviour" (for anyone who's seen Planet of the Spiders...lol) and a slight change in personality.
@chasla99 when i first watched ninth to tenth, i thought that was the idea, but then i noticed that classic series doctos sort of went between younger and older
@chasla99 when i first watched ninth to tenth, i thought that was the idea, but then i noticed that classic series doctors sort of went between younger and older
i think th whole scene waz brilliant.. exept th fact th doctor regenerated and th companion came out completely fine.. so many people say how th regeneration waz crap but i think that it wazn't that bad and u gotta remember it waz only 1987.. a year when there were films like terminator wit th crap stop motion effects towards th end
Colin Baker, such a great actor, good material to work with, just really bad stories and unnecessarily dark stories. The murder of the restaurant owner in The Two Doctors was morbid.
And from this point on was where my childhood memories of watching Doctor Who are strongest and where my life as a fan started! I was hooked! If the Sylvester McCoy era hadn't been so great and exciting to watch for my 6-year old self I probably still wouldn't be watching today 23-years later! I owe a great deal to it! :)
Wow, the doctor has been through Daleks, Cybermen, and Quarks, but him falling to the ground after Rani attacks him is what causes him to regenerate...
@jcx34 Yeah,c baker in this scene was sylvester mcoy in a wig and differant costume.BBC Made him (Du Du-Du Du!) REGENARATE (!!) as soon as he is turned over so we did not see.And other tubers, Solve this riiddle:Who was the longest doctor,but also the shortest? Go onto my video (he is defintley trying to say something...) to find out.
Every one harps on about Colin Baker, but the real blame has to go to the BBC for simply not knowing what to do with the best sci-fi show it ever produced.
Saying that, both Colin and McCoy's eras started out very weak but got better towards the end. Compare the Twin Dilemma with Trial of a Time Lord, and Time & the Rani with Survival, respectively.
@SamusDrake Good point, The Twin Dielemma, besides Dimensions in Time from 1993, is probably one of the worst episodes ever, but Trial of a Time Lord is a pretty decent story, it's just a shame Colin Baker never stayed on for as long as he like, and the BBC Blackmailing JNT to stay on "for just one more season" when he clearly wanted to leave
one of the worst doctor who moments ever, replacing one of the best doctors for one of the worst doctors,without a decent reason in the plot for the 6th doctor to die.
@RichXbox360 Oh yes! She was one of the best things about that era! Sophie is a beauty! Plus as Ace she worked really well with Sylvester McCoy's Doctor too I thought! A winning TARDIS team! :D
@TheEocene I know someone who was at drama school with him. Half the reason he's got an acting career at all is that he is egotistical, overpowering, fawning and ingratiating to get people to notice and like him. Colin Baker cannot be anyone other than Colin Baker.
The story that Colin told himself is that he got a phone call asking if he would like to cast the new doctor. Colin asked why and they said due to tom baker being the doctor for seven years they decided to limit it to three years. They said that he could still do the regeneration scene though, Colin said that he would do another season and the regeneration at the end of that. They said they would think about it and get back to him, but they never did so they just dressed up sil in a wig.
Quite ironic.He had so many crashlandings, one of which even had him end up in another universe, and the one spaceship crash that actually kills him wasn't his fault.
yeah, Colin wouldn't allow them to show his regeneration, so they just put Syl in a wig, and that's why his regeneration was so quick, because they obviously couldn't show Syls face.
Can't say enough about those special effects!
mdtalley 1 day ago
Colin Baker didn't appear in this. He refused after he was fired. McCoy was in a blonde wig for this.
professorfirefly 1 week ago
I love how unbelievably tacky this is!
TheMattBattersby 2 weeks ago
What I don't understand is why with the effects at the time they couldn't paste baker face there. I mean obviously it's improved since the 60's.....
BlackScarabZ 2 weeks ago
How come the fall killed Baker but Mel survived?
ultrapersonthing 2 weeks ago
@ultrapersonthing
Because dr. drunk carrot juice with poison and he regenerated after turbulences (he banged him head)
and in this regeneration scene didnt play colin baker but masked Sylvester McCoy (BBC took Colin Baker of the work and he didnt wants to film regeneraiton scene)
jakub0606 2 weeks ago
Fascinating, the sixth doctor is the only one I am aware of to have died without a significant and emotional 'goodbye' scene.
Aileil 4 weeks ago
I like Colin Baker, But I LOVE Sylvester McCoy. 6th and 7th were the best Doctors. :)
MrBerrillProductions 1 month ago
HOORAY FOR NYAN TARDIS!!!!!!!!
ibtrumpet513 1 month ago 2
Sylvester Mccoy with a blonde wig-->sylvester Mccoy without a blonde wig regen.
gareth19771 2 months ago
@gareth19771 I'd be more pissed off if we didn't get to see him shot in the movie.
gareth19771 2 months ago
Colin Baker was far to violent to be a Doctor and he got very angry. Every Doctor had good points but for me i found it hard to watch Colin. Golden Age of Doctor is 2nd through to 5th if it wasn't for caves of Androzani 5th may have missed out. You have to admit Davison played his heart out in that serial. Tennant was good as well
nbab21 2 months ago
@nbab21 I agree with you one-hundred percent. Davison will always be my personal favorite Doctor out of the ones you mentioned though.
Aileil 4 weeks ago
@Aileil glad we see eye to eye
nbab21 3 weeks ago
Last words: Carrot Juice.
rtuckerivey 2 months ago
It would've even been a better regeneration if his wig fell off.
unknownrostam 3 months ago
What the hell, so he regenerated after falling off an exercise bike? Lame.
yourFriendtheTaxman 3 months ago
@yourFriendtheTaxman He was allergic to the carrot juice.
ChanWalrusMusic 3 months ago
its my favorite regeneration ever and my favorite doctor
mylestewart 3 months ago
@MrBacktothenineties Actually, Colin Baker was fired, that is the reasons they did that. As a matter of fact, I couldn't notice it until I saw it in the comments.
dalmatian123 4 months ago
Doctor, I think I might be a homosexual. — How can you tell? — RRRAINBOWWWSS!!
LankyCyril 4 months ago 4
McGann was an excellent Doctor! He just didn't have a good script for the tv movie...
RandomShinigami7 6 months ago
I see nothing wrong with the scene. He was in the process of regenerating. It's very easy to pass it off as a half-done deal rather than go off on how crappy the effect may be. Most of their effects were crappy. This isn't news.
kamwrites 7 months ago
A: Shittiest title? Nah. That's Fear Her and
2: I don't recall the attack on the Tardis when I viewed it on New Jersey's PBS station back when...
hatefulevilscumface 7 months ago
Grades treatment of Doctor Who in its final classic period is disgraceful.
It is and always has been the perfect show for the Saturday teatime slot.
But in the final years it was moved to Monday nights in a timeslot that is still a dead period for the BBC due to the popularity of Coronation Street. And the inevitable sharp drop in viewing figures gave him the perfect excuse to take it off the air
ndkbse 7 months ago 3
@ndkbse Not to mention the fact he was going out with Colin's ex-wife when he fired him and he slashed the budget after he insulted the production values
eateroftheflame 7 months ago
@ako675 I'm guessing the colossal amount of money systems cost and graphics cards would have been additional big bucks
Cee1003 7 months ago
Well Colin Baker refused to come back due to the nature of his depature and, in those days, as I recall regenerations were done on screen (I don't think they pulled an off screen one until the first episode of the new series) so I guess they were stuck.
I DO agree they could have done a better job of hiding his face AND that he was wearing a wig, either that or find a body double for Colin.
LibraGamesUnlimited 7 months ago
@LibraGamesUnlimited Not true. Troughton was changed BY the TimeLords, but we never see the regeneration. The new series (The first in colour) starts with Pertwee stumbling out of the TARDIS!
DrWhodini1 7 months ago
@DrWhodini1 Yes and no. It's been awhile but I DO recall seeing the start of it. Sure we get the whole 'blow by blow' but it does start. :)
I've also wondered if it really counts as a regeneration since I don't recall the term being used (but I'm not sure the term had been made up at that point) so it could be a loophole to buy the Doctor another life. :)
LibraGamesUnlimited 7 months ago
@LibraGamesUnlimited
Troughton just pulled a few funny faces, they did a couple of lens effects (multiple faces) and that was the end of the episode (and the series).
As far as I am aware, Time Lords can regenerate indefinitely, but society dictated 13 regenerations - A kind of etiquette. Also, one could argue, that with NO Time Lords left (cue 3rd Master appearance) the whole balance has changed and he could change as many times as required. Either way, there is a legitimate 'out'.
DrWhodini1 7 months ago
@DrWhodini1 Yeah somehow 13 got set as an accepted limit but it's not really. Seems to me that the High Council had a great deal of control over the whole thing since they offered the Master a new series of regenerations in "The Five Doctors" and apprently when they brought him back for the Time War they either gave them to him or it was part of the process. Also Romona seemed able to change at will (even if it was played for laughs as the time).
LibraGamesUnlimited 7 months ago
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DrWhodini1 7 months ago
@DrWhodini1 hasnt the show said with multiple characters that a time lord can run out of lives
mo21nk 4 months ago
@mo21nk AS I remember it was first mentioned during the Davison years that a Time Lord has 12 regenerations, and it was later implied that it was an 'agreed' limit rather than a physical fact. Whatever is 'the truth', with The Doctor being the last of the Time Lords, I guess there would be no 'agreed' limit any more. Which is great, because that means my quest to be a future Doctor is still viable :D
DrWhodini1 4 months ago
@DrWhodini1 guess thats true.but think i kind of like that there is a possible end to the doctor.i was thinking he would at the end of 12 lives then come up with a way to continue.it doesent sound like him,but maybe he has a really good reason to need to survive.but you are right guess the timelords do make up the rules,but have to follow them also.
mo21nk 4 months ago
@mo21nk I see what you mean. I agree with you sort of about the way of having new regenerations, but I always thought it would be an accidental thing that happeneds, because he wouldn't really do it himself
tinysocks3 4 months ago
@LibraGamesUnlimited No Colin wanted to come back, but he also wanted one more season and the producers wouldn't have it.
TheBlitMaster 7 months ago
Michael Grade- Absoloutely deluded bastard for getting rid of Colin- he's even up his ass about himself right now about shows like Doctor Who on tv. I'd like to see him try and play the fantastic Doctor Colin Potrayed- I'd like to see how he would feel if his imaginary Boss just punched his lights out and told him he was fired... The firing of Colin Baker- The Axing of Doctor Who - will always be on his hands like blood- bloody embarassing human being...
RegenerationStorm 7 months ago 21
@RegenerationStorm yes i agree colin was good.i like him most in is dalek cyberman episodes mark of the rani and time lash.and i still have more to see
mo21nk 4 months ago
shame colin baker refused to come back for the transformation. it would have been better that way
bookfaerae 7 months ago
Time And The Rani -surely the shittiest title ever for a Dr Who story.
WeTheStrange 8 months ago
@MrBacktothenineties That's only because Colin Baker was fired from the BBC and didn't want to be in the regeneration scene because he felt he had been treated unfairly.
DraigProductions 8 months ago
Total crap! At least production got their ass together in the 2nd season of McCoy.
CheapSushi 8 months ago
SO MANY LONG JUDGY COMMENTS. I love Sylvester McCoy's Doctor, and I love terrible effects, woozy wigs and all.
bluestalkingvids 9 months ago 3
@MrBacktothenineties Of course you were disappointed, it was the new Doctor with a wig! But they couldn't really start without regeneration, it made no sense.
rubadoon 9 months ago
Scary!!!
But sylvester mccoy is my earliest memory of doctor who.
Anyone found any decent dalek episodes on here?
skeletorphd 9 months ago
I never liked the 6th Doctor that much as portrayed on the TV, but the audio stories were wonderful. Which means the TV Doctor was bad due to bad scripts not due to Colin Baker which is really a shame. He could have been much more if they had had good script writers - same goes with the 7th Doctor.
monkeywho 9 months ago
As much as I love Dr Who, old and new, this clip, explains the ratings slip. I now understand why it went off the air in the late 80's, I never saw much of the Baker-McCoy doctor's. That cartoonish TARDIS crashing was... well, a little too over the top cheesy.
dvnyng 9 months ago
I liked it when regeneration was a seldom used plot device for narrative convenience rather than what it is now: a staple of the show trotted out whenever the viewing figures is waning and they need some sensationalist fake-regeneration to give it a boost.
MeBeMat 9 months ago
its the BBC' fault they made colin wait 18 months and he wanted to do a full third season for repay but they refused so colin refused to do a regeneration sequence.
Isarru69069 9 months ago
how did colin baker get fired from bbc any how ?
Supergamerkid64 10 months ago
@Supergamerkid64 He had a three year contract - when the show went on an 18 month hiatus, those 18 months were counted into those 3 years. After that, his contract was not renewed - I would be pissed too if that happened to me.
KingLofiOne 9 months ago
It's a rubbish regeneration, it kills off my favourite Doctor, why am I still so fond of this scene?
olliestoes 10 months ago 9
the start isnt colin baker its sly with a wig on lol
GlasgowGamer101 1 year ago 3
@GlasgowGamer101 tru u can see it!
ghoulia21 1 year ago
Why was Baker fired?
yscaray 1 year ago
@yscaray cause he was shit
ss4706 1 year ago
@ss4706 No he wasn't i'd like to see u do a better job
daleksvscybermen 1 year ago
@ss4706 no he was not the writing was shit
leothelion19 11 months ago
@yscaray Because the man responsible for the show at the time, Michael Grade, was a bastard. He complained about the show looking so cheap AFTER he had cut its budget, never liked it anyway and just sought a way to axe the program. After Baker's first season, he axed the next one, so DW went on an 18 month "Hiatus" beforebeing revived with "The Trial of a Time Lord", after which Baker's 3 year contract wore out (they counted the hiatus in) and it was not renewed. Baker was pissed.
KingLofiOne 1 year ago
@KingLofiOne
Colin Baker = The Worst Doctor Ever.
Closely followed by Peter Davison.
McCoy was brilliant - they should never have killed him off the way they did.
GlowWorm1962 11 months ago
@GlowWorm1962 You've obviously never listened to the Big Finish Audios with Colin. He's like, the best of the bunch. He just didn't get any good scripts.
KingLofiOne 11 months ago
@GlowWorm1962 Dude. You got it wrong. Colin Baker was a great doctor surrounded by bad scripts and acting. Sylvester McCoy sucked the first two years. But then he was OK in his last year.
upchuck69 11 months ago
@GlowWorm1962 Fuck off. Colin and Pete were both awesome. They all were.
TsoLan1 11 months ago 2
@GlowWorm1962 I agree. CB was thoroughly unlikeable, PD extremely bland. I prefer Patrick Troughton to SM though!
WeTheStrange 8 months ago
If anyone is unhappy about 6's departure read the Doctor Who book Spiral Scratch. It gives 6 the true send off he deserves. It has him already regenerating when the Rani attacks and his last line is so heartbreaking. "I just want to see the cosmos one last time. Perri, are you there? I wish you were here."
Mavakor 1 year ago 4
@Mavakor That is perfect. I gotta get that book.
jediewok16 2 months ago
why did this happen :((((
CardClashersHub 1 year ago
@CardClashersHub Colin Baker was fired
johnalang 1 year ago
@johnalang i knoq :( he was my fave
CardClashersHub 1 year ago
Amazing gr4fx. They had some serious blast processing.
rubino83 1 year ago
I bet that woman wears the trousers in her home.
TheGodParticle 1 year ago
I like the new show but man these original was soo tacky.
HGeneAnthony 1 year ago
@HGeneAnthony You'd be surprised, the effects in the mid 80s were actually worse than most of the 60s and 70s.
eateroftheflame 1 year ago
@ 0:36 Kate O'Mara who played Pasty Stone's sister on ABFAB?????
ATLTendency 1 year ago
Bye Six, Hi Seven.
KendrixTermina 1 year ago
Y'know, despite the bad effects (bad, I'm assured even for the eighties), there's something insanely magical about this moment. In regards to the story itself, I don't think it's anywhere near as bad. It's a Pip and Jane story, meaning it's a good tale with a few silly bits. Yes, the Rani disguising herself as Mel was a silly plot device, but it did allow some intresting revelations about their relationship.
GregDarcy 1 year ago
colin and sylvester deserved better than this
daleksvscybermen 1 year ago 5
Seeing how far CGI has come in my lifetime (I was born six weeks before this episode first aired) is strangely fascinating. 1987 CGI FTW!
novamist 1 year ago
its funny that his wig just dissapears
ebanksstudios 1 year ago
@MrBacktothenineties yes it is Sylvester that must be why he was liying down face first so he dident show his face
drwhoCraig 1 year ago
it was fake , they used sylvester with a wig , its because they fired colin before the regeneration was filmed
YuGiOhCardMasterDude 1 year ago
i sincerely hope they find a way to use the Rani in the new series. she was a great villain!!
omega311888 1 year ago
@omega311888 I rekon River Song is the Rani strangely enough
JoeConcerts 1 year ago
@JoeConcerts oh man i hope not lol. i really like the river character and im not alone in thinking the her and the doc were ( will be ) at least intimate at some point if not married. there were rumors circulating of the rani being the doctors twin sister ( they have the exact same age) so the doc/river romance would just be ... disturbing haha
omega311888 1 year ago
@JoeConcerts Didn't the Rani already show up in the Sarah Jane Adventures again?
KingLofiOne 1 year ago
@KingLofiOne The Rani character, no, but there is a girl in SJA called Rani Chandra, who is a regular companion for Sarah Jane
JoeConcerts 1 year ago
best doctors: 10, 3, 7,2,4,1,5,8,9,6,11
THIS IS MY ORDER: 11 WILL BE AT THE BOTTOM EVERYTIME, HAVING TROUBLE WITH 896 THO.
gindalf0492 1 year ago
As much as I like seeing crappy eighties special effects turning bewigged Sly McCoy into unbewigged Sly McCoy, couldn't they have done this regeneration with a little more style and discretion. If Colin Baker didn't come back for the scene and 6's face was going to be obscured anyway, why not just not bother..have 7 stumble out of the TARDIS in 6's costume or not show him until he wakes up on The Rani's lab table later on...
MeBeMat 1 year ago 32
Alternate 9 was good, too
Rowan Atkinson FTW X-D
KingLofiOne 1 year ago 4
the best doctors are (in this order only)7,11,3.
horseranger25 1 year ago
@horseranger25 11? the current 1......i dont think so all of the others have been better
gindalf0492 1 year ago
colin and sylvester the only doctors capable of turning a totally crap story into a half decent
daleksvscybermen 1 year ago
best doctors are (in this order), 6,7,11 and 9
daleksvscybermen 1 year ago
@MrBacktothenineties Indeed. I would have rather him stumble from the TARDIS like Pertwee or have this mysterious character show up who later turns out to be the new Doctor.
sagaofbluewing 1 year ago
Note to Tethran:
It *was* understandable that Colin Baker refused to return to the show to film the regeneration scene...considering the fact that the BBC had made Colin redundant...he just didn't want to be bothered with a company t6hat disposed of his services so abruptly...
Don't blame him at all, m8..
BadNews88 1 year ago
Note to Crosis2814:
The TARDIS console blew up in The Doctor's face.
For some reason, that bit is NOT seen here...Heaven knows why?
BadNews88 1 year ago
@BadNews88 The reason was, if I remember correctly, Baker had refused to come back to film the regeneration scene so McCoy with a wig was a stand-in for the absent Baker. Obviously this doesn't matter when he's lying face down, but it would have been harder if he'd had to be shown taking the injuries and falling to the floor and using stock footage would have made the difference in height, build and the like between Baker and McCoy as his stand-in more noticeable.
Tethran 1 year ago
In all seriousness, can someone explain to me HOW he got injured to regenerate here? I havent seen this episode yet but can't seem to find any definative reason as to it at all either. Hit his head, force a regeneration?
Crosis2814 1 year ago
@Crosis2814 One theory that popped up in the 90's new adventures novels was that the Seventh Doctor basically, killed the 6th to regenerate. Complex I know.
TheOnComingStorm121 1 year ago
@Crosis2814 the half assed reason in this is that he hits his head off the console, but one book (i forget the name...spiral something XD) says he absorbed energy and his last words were ''you want me to become a god?''
DALEK86 1 year ago
I feel so bad for Colin. He did a great job! 6 is definetly in my top five favorite Doctors list! And look at the regeneration he got. Ridiculous. It's a crime. And, as other people have already said, from this moment on the series went downhill, culminating in that unfortunate movie. *shakes head* Ah well, at least we have the new series now which is AMAZING. Or, at least it was when Eccleston and Tennant were at the helm...not sure how I feel about Smith yet....
HeyBEatle123 1 year ago
The BBC just took the pure p*ss out of Colin Baker, they got him to wear that horrid outfit for a few seasons treated him badly then sacked him handing over the role to Sylvester mc Coy, this is when Doctor Who went down hill from here onwards.
E9ODOC7890 1 year ago
@E9ODOC7890 - IMO it went downhill after the fourth doctor's era - if it hadn't been for men like Colin, Peter and Sylvester the series would have died a lot sooner... and if it hadn't have been for Paul and Big Finish the series would have stayed dead - RTD might not even have bothered to bring it back! And Tennant would never have acted in the audio play that the crew heard him in :p
2Scribble 1 year ago 2
I've just watched Dragonfire and Remembrance of the Daleks and I must say Sylvester McCoy is brilliant, why do all these youngsters glorify Tennant? He's not even the best of the new series.
eateroftheflame 1 year ago
It isn't Colin Baker. It's Sylvester McCoy in a wig. Baker refused to do the regeneration scene and if you look closely you can tell it's a wig.
gothamcity29 1 year ago
@gothamcity29 the same than when 9th regenerated into 10!
cmsahe 1 year ago
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@cmsahe what the fuck are you on about?
thecarreyman2323 1 year ago
Shouldn't this be renamed Sylvester McCoy in a Harpo Marx wig to Sylvester McCoy being let down by the writers.
Jez32uk 1 year ago 2
The 1st Sylvester McCoy Episode i watched is
Remembrance of the Daleks, and he was brilliant!
TheSpaceVortex 1 year ago
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CardClashersHub 1 year ago
@CardClashersHub CardClashersHub. I used to respect you. Now you're being, well,I better not say what you are being,but seriously. Mccoy is awesome. Shut up.
HTprods 1 year ago
@CardClashersHub Oh and,how much classic who have you watched? Seriously? Have you seen The Curse of Fenric? Ghost Light? Survival? If you seen any of those you'll know how freaking awesome Sylvester Mccoy is.
HTprods 1 year ago
@HTprods I havn't seen any of them and even I know how freaking awesome he is.
pupbenny 1 year ago
@CardClashersHub I disagree wholeheartedly. McCoy is the best Doctor there is. Or do you prefer angsty "Why must I love her?" 10?
Pandoribolical 1 year ago
@Pandoribolical He's my favorite classic doctor. followed by pertwee.
pupbenny 1 year ago
@pupbenny It goes McCoy then Smith for me :)
Pandoribolical 1 year ago
@CardClashersHub He's my favorite classic doctor. He's not a prick. The least you could've said was "I think he's a prick"!
pupbenny 1 year ago
@CardClashersHub shut up. sylvester is my second favourite doctor after colin baker
daleksvscybermen 1 year ago
O.o how'd she get into the tardis, didnt it have locks back then? lol
jr2nd 1 year ago
LOL Sylvester McCoy regenerated into Sylvester McCoy. This is because Colin Baker didn't want to do the regeneration scene.
DarthCharlieReveiws 1 year ago 2
Colin deserved a better regnaration
Doctorwholover2166 1 year ago 2
david tennet and matt smith is way better and is it me or are the docters geting younger every time on this show
chasla99 1 year ago
@chasla99 One of these days, the Doctor's going to wake up ten years old.
EcliptorCalrissian 1 year ago
@chasla99 they are. Timelord regenerate when they suffer mortal injury, old age or severe illness. The body cells change to reverse damage and in a sense, reverse the biological clock. As a result of this, they change appearance and look younger. Another side effect is that the brain cells change a little as well, resulting in "erratic behaviour" (for anyone who's seen Planet of the Spiders...lol) and a slight change in personality.
RevengeOfIjapa 1 year ago
@chasla99 when i first watched ninth to tenth, i thought that was the idea, but then i noticed that classic series doctos sort of went between younger and older
thecarreyman2323 1 year ago
@chasla99 when i first watched ninth to tenth, i thought that was the idea, but then i noticed that classic series doctors sort of went between younger and older
thecarreyman2323 1 year ago
Sixth Doctor regenerates - Sylvester McCoy In Wig to Sylvester McCoy - Doctor Who
antony492 1 year ago
colin is my favourite doctor, and sylvester mccoy is ok, but both have absolutely TERRIBLE opening stories
daleksvscybermen 1 year ago
i think th whole scene waz brilliant.. exept th fact th doctor regenerated and th companion came out completely fine.. so many people say how th regeneration waz crap but i think that it wazn't that bad and u gotta remember it waz only 1987.. a year when there were films like terminator wit th crap stop motion effects towards th end
keiracounsell 1 year ago
Haha, you could tell it was McCoy in a wig, because the facial features didn't change, lol
danielchance 1 year ago
at the beging of that regeneration it was just saveser macoy in a wigg
gilbert89209time 1 year ago
lol he almost strangled peri
WhiteSox2447 1 year ago
Seems that he was always [put on sunglasses] the real McCoy. YEEEAAAHHHH!!
zoroalabaster 1 year ago 42
@zoroalabaster sir, i think you are my hero
OmegaShenron6574 1 year ago
@zoroalabaster
Fuck you, I laughed hard.
BroWhatever 1 year ago
@zoroalabaster lololol WIN.
thephantom0 1 year ago
@zoroalabaster
rofl nice comment
webstersafc 1 year ago
Bbc..Lol how much the regenerations have inproved
MattSmithington 1 year ago
@MattSmithington *cough* funding and tech *cough*
and yeah they may have improved but they have used the same type for all of the regenerations. in the classic series they all regenerated differently
OmegaShenron6574 1 year ago
Colin Baker, such a great actor, good material to work with, just really bad stories and unnecessarily dark stories. The murder of the restaurant owner in The Two Doctors was morbid.
MrTARDISreviews 1 year ago 2
you look back on classic doctor who now and say to yourself...my god the special effects were crap!
ROS3tYL3R 1 year ago
And from this point on was where my childhood memories of watching Doctor Who are strongest and where my life as a fan started! I was hooked! If the Sylvester McCoy era hadn't been so great and exciting to watch for my 6-year old self I probably still wouldn't be watching today 23-years later! I owe a great deal to it! :)
Alan1701b 1 year ago
Wow, the doctor has been through Daleks, Cybermen, and Quarks, but him falling to the ground after Rani attacks him is what causes him to regenerate...
electricmastro 1 year ago
Sylvester McCoy to....... oh dear, Sylvester McCoy!
AllOfTimeAndSpace 1 year ago 4
awesome special effects
shadoweduniverse 1 year ago
Sylvester Mccoy regenerates into... Sylvester Mccoy! Hooray!
jcx34 1 year ago
@jcx34 Yeah,c baker in this scene was sylvester mcoy in a wig and differant costume.BBC Made him (Du Du-Du Du!) REGENARATE (!!) as soon as he is turned over so we did not see.And other tubers, Solve this riiddle:Who was the longest doctor,but also the shortest? Go onto my video (he is defintley trying to say something...) to find out.
DWPRfan 1 year ago
Every one harps on about Colin Baker, but the real blame has to go to the BBC for simply not knowing what to do with the best sci-fi show it ever produced.
Saying that, both Colin and McCoy's eras started out very weak but got better towards the end. Compare the Twin Dilemma with Trial of a Time Lord, and Time & the Rani with Survival, respectively.
SamusDrake 1 year ago
@SamusDrake Good point, The Twin Dielemma, besides Dimensions in Time from 1993, is probably one of the worst episodes ever, but Trial of a Time Lord is a pretty decent story, it's just a shame Colin Baker never stayed on for as long as he like, and the BBC Blackmailing JNT to stay on "for just one more season" when he clearly wanted to leave
LightningT5 1 year ago
one of the worst doctor who moments ever, replacing one of the best doctors for one of the worst doctors,without a decent reason in the plot for the 6th doctor to die.
crazyboijihad 1 year ago
@crazyboijihad Actually that's all a matter of opinion, I know alot of people who despise Colin, and adore Syl...
MalashiPictures 1 year ago
@MalashiPictures The best thing about the McCoy era was the extremely fit Sophie Aldred as Ace.
RichXbox360 1 year ago 3
@RichXbox360 Oh yes! She was one of the best things about that era! Sophie is a beauty! Plus as Ace she worked really well with Sylvester McCoy's Doctor too I thought! A winning TARDIS team! :D
Alan1701b 1 year ago 2
good riddance! Although, having said that, Colin is a nice guy. Just useless when it comes to acting...
TheEocene 1 year ago
@TheEocene I know someone who was at drama school with him. Half the reason he's got an acting career at all is that he is egotistical, overpowering, fawning and ingratiating to get people to notice and like him. Colin Baker cannot be anyone other than Colin Baker.
randomdave30 1 year ago
@randomdave30 Incidentally, this video represents the highlight of the Colin Baker era.
randomdave30 1 year ago
I think you got the title a bit wrong, Colin Baker dosnt regenerate then lol
AlexMarsden13 1 year ago
this is the chessiet thing ive even seen in my life
cartmankid95 1 year ago
Sylvester McCoy regenerrates into... Sylvester McCoy, lol
YorickMesch 1 year ago 8
@YorickMesch hahahaha ya its so rubbish- colin baker the downfall
moore30828 1 year ago
The story that Colin told himself is that he got a phone call asking if he would like to cast the new doctor. Colin asked why and they said due to tom baker being the doctor for seven years they decided to limit it to three years. They said that he could still do the regeneration scene though, Colin said that he would do another season and the regeneration at the end of that. They said they would think about it and get back to him, but they never did so they just dressed up sil in a wig.
LuigiMario338 1 year ago 2
Now that's what you call a faceplant x]
MadeOfTheEpicWin 1 year ago
It was unfair that colin did not do the regeneration
evana089 1 year ago
Love the Rani. She should've had better episodes. Evil, brilliant, had fantastic shoes. What more can you ask for.
ApocalypseNext 1 year ago 4
The BBC got this date wroing in the description. it was the 7th of *September* 1987 that this episode was transmitted - a Monday.
AidanLunn 2 years ago
Quite ironic.He had so many crashlandings, one of which even had him end up in another universe, and the one spaceship crash that actually kills him wasn't his fault.
Technicolor Nightmare, you were great!
KendrixTermina 2 years ago
LOL it turns out colin baker wasnt even in this regeneration . it was sylvester with a wig ! lol
benthehat 2 years ago 2
yeah, Colin wouldn't allow them to show his regeneration, so they just put Syl in a wig, and that's why his regeneration was so quick, because they obviously couldn't show Syls face.