I run Resto Druid + Hunter and Wyvern Sting + Scatter Shot + Cyclone + Freezing Arrow from far away is extremely effective. Using it to interrupt casting is also viable.
the only place i seen it used usefully was by the hunter brang. He knows how to use it pretty well. I mean couldnt you just use the arrow like a secondary trap? Fire it close to you and when they want to get close it freezes them? just wondering. Blizzard must have had a reason for adding this move.
it's sux but better than nothing,i would kill to have a spammable freezing trap with 1.5 sec cast time that directly trap the enemy like a sheep,but still better then nothing
Slightly useful in pve, useless in pvp. Maybe if you catch a caster asleep at the keyboard you may be able to trap them. But anyone that actually pays attention while pvp-ing will just move when they see that shit flying through the air XD.
this can be used in pvp, tho itl take good timing and knolledge of where ur enemy will wack. easier usefulness in pvp would be double trap(freezing trap, then place this down wen hes about to break) or arena. placing one in the mid. still, looks like itl take alot of practice to work it right
I still think it should have been an actual "shot" It would work just like a poly or the new shaman hex or the one ret ability. If you have a mage or a pally in your group you can really forget about Cc. Putting a trap down and chain traping < one button and back to the fight.
all of you idiots saying hunters suck in 1vs1 against melee obviously suck... very bad against lets say a warrior, i throw down a trap , he runs through it but trinkets i use pet charge then freezing trap shot same time, then i unload on him , when he gets out i use sleeping shot run back some and start shooting more, when he charges in mid charge i scatter shot, then drop a trap infront of me, so he charges again if his time is up, thing is i had readiness, do all again ,Haywire destromath SRVR
really dude cause your stupid, freezing shot shares the same cooldown as freezing trap so... yeah and unless your some kind of survival/marks hybrid your little trick doesn't work anymore, try again kid
Thanks for the video mate. With flare nurfed and now this sorry excuse for a new shot, its pretty sad. i think Blizzard are trying to tell us something.
my main is a hunter , and they screwed aimed shot... now hunter , i think , are screw. Voley help in AV... but in 1 on 1 ... yeah , hunter now do suck
yeah pretty bad, but imagine you see a rogue very well geared defending flag, your on the upper level wsg of course, you shoot a freezing arrow at him then take the flag while he is frozen :D
The rogue (if unstealthed for some reason) would run before the shot is armed...
This really stinks. The travel time must be lowered to 1/4 and be instantly armed and even then it will be hard to use (targeting system is lame for PvP).
Just give us a enemy centered AoE ensnare shot instead.... or much better, camouflage.
just a matter of time till blizz makes hunter fire their own pets at the enemies and calling it, rocket charge.. ofc beastmastery last talent. nerf beastal tree
You can indeed send it on a caster who's preparing his overkill 5+sec cast spell.
But that's quite situational. You could also argue that it's quite good for trapping AFK dudes :|
The arming time and is visibility ruins the thing. Caster may fall for it if the guy wants his pyro to go. But a flag carrier ? If clever, you just avoid it.
It has some uses (even if it only forces people to avoid it, that can be somehow used to our advantage) but it's overall crappy, and for a lvl80spell, an insult
another note, its tards like u that give hunters a bad name...y dont u noobs go back to making locks. or better yet, flood wotlk with death knights. baka!!!
ur all idiots...its for PVE. so instead of waiting for an enemy to run to ur trap and haveing like a few seconds to react to a trap break, the tank will know to pull ur trap target from the get go. and also if ur using freezing trap in pvp ur a tard who will get no where. put ur mana to better use noob. why would u waste mana and more importantly time. dont freeze the enemy, burn the fuker down. when u freeze him, u idiots dont realize you are also giving ur opponent time to think.
Your not thinking of many ways it could be used, no one duels anymore.. its all BG's, say you see someone going up a tower, or incoming to the base, you could fire a trap up there, where you cant just place one right away normally, when they try going for it, bam, frozen.
I think the only way for this to be viable in PvP is where there are multiple players, not just 2v2 arenas for example. I personally would've loved if this would've shot an frost trap insted.
yes. that is exactly right, he says it sucks in pvp, but come on ppl, lets face it there will be many ways for hunters to make this skill become GREAT in pvp.
i dont think its made for pvp its mosty like a pve thingy cuase ive been thinkin and saying "this is shit" but if u think about it in a instance or raid its quite helpful :]
actually seems like this would be pretty usefull if you were being attacked and just fired on yourself, extremely effective against pets, and somewhat effective on not-so-observant melee fighters
I think this ability will be really good for battlegrounds where people play like crap and have no situational awareness. Unless they do something about the arming time, why not make it more like the ice mages's elemental frost nova?
This skill offers nothing new to the table, unlike ALL other level 80 skills. It's purpose, which was said in Blizzcon, is just to make trap pulls much faster. THAT'S ALL.
If that were the case, ALL traps should be turned into toss-shots like this.
It's arm time occurs only after landing, and with the lovely nova graphic, it makes it that only half-assed players will actually STAND there and get hit by it. USELESS for PvP. Adds NOTHING new for competent hunters in PvE. It's utter garbage.
I really hate to say this, but I think it's a matter of your not wanting to see it as a good ability. If your partners running to you in arena you can shoot it before them, they run through the trap, and it'll snare whoever is running after them. There's uses for this trap, it may not be ideal I'll admit, but I think you're making it out to be much worse than it really is.
I really thought a nice hunter ability would be instead of shooting out the trap it shoots out a net that traps everything in so much of a radius. And where if you damage the things caught it wont break the effect. Due to it's slow shoot time and pretty hard to catch something it would be nice to get a neat pwnage few seconds. Volley, explosive shot, multishot. xp
After seeing the effect of the "shot" hitting the ground, it looks like the shot -could- do an AoE snare/root. I'm not saying that is what it -should- do, but it looks like that's what it -could- do. I -like- these "-" if you can't tell.
ok, so _does_ suck, I agree. But the idéa itself is not so bad, it just needs a bit of work. And yeah, the time it takes for it to arm is ridiculous. The trap needs to arm in the air so it goes off right when it lands.
You said somthing about it might work against a resto druid in tree from, I assume because they walk slower, however they no longer run slower in tree from now so even trees don't fear that awesome trap effect hehe, Hunters have been given a lot of love tho with new pet talents so its not all bad. ;)
I run Resto Druid + Hunter and Wyvern Sting + Scatter Shot + Cyclone + Freezing Arrow from far away is extremely effective. Using it to interrupt casting is also viable.
DrZB345T 7 months ago
This is what you can do with with freezing arrow.
Scat shot > Freezing arrow if further away
OR
Wyvern shot > Freezing arrow
they can either waste trink early or not use it and let u get Lock and Loaded buff (if you specced it)
nameless1093 2 years ago
they need to do some thing about it soon
sexybumes 2 years ago
ummm... o,O"
MeirRL 2 years ago
the only place i seen it used usefully was by the hunter brang. He knows how to use it pretty well. I mean couldnt you just use the arrow like a secondary trap? Fire it close to you and when they want to get close it freezes them? just wondering. Blizzard must have had a reason for adding this move.
UltimaRunks 2 years ago
l2 scatter shot ?
it's sux but better than nothing,i would kill to have a spammable freezing trap with 1.5 sec cast time that directly trap the enemy like a sheep,but still better then nothing
devispez 2 years ago
be nigh elf, shadowmeld and shoot one near flag when someone comes close might help XD
thedeathray 2 years ago 2
lol my pet on lvl 70 critted 896 :S so ur pet sucks as many other ppl say
tiz2008 2 years ago
if ur better and smarted dumbass, u fire about 5 sec before he runs into idiot...
bigwowgamer 2 years ago
well i duno if u noticed mateee butt urrrm...
ur pet sux and ur using a tanking gun loool
blualiance 2 years ago
Thats actually a pvp gun smart ass.
And yeah your pet should hit harder then a 80's pet cuz back in the 70 days all hunters roll BM. If you roll BM at 80 go hang yourself in your shed
TheTrollHuntard 2 years ago
huhh/?what an awesome spell!!!damn....by the way ur pet is sucks.......
xxxcj 3 years ago
its fun for ganking in gadgetzan when they run to zf just shoot one across the wall right in front of the instance before they get there.
gwar187193 3 years ago
So Who won the duel?!
Narkotiq420 3 years ago
Slightly useful in pve, useless in pvp. Maybe if you catch a caster asleep at the keyboard you may be able to trap them. But anyone that actually pays attention while pvp-ing will just move when they see that shit flying through the air XD.
Eatsoup9 3 years ago
yes indeed this ability is useless
Frostbite3108 3 years ago
yeah, should be faster cast or just more space for the trap to freeze the target...
lpgomp 3 years ago
It's probably for raids and shit.
awsomejoe 3 years ago
or u can just concussive then try trapping
Laramiecorp1 3 years ago
hit me with your best shot.
KiNPiN1835 3 years ago
this can be used in pvp, tho itl take good timing and knolledge of where ur enemy will wack. easier usefulness in pvp would be double trap(freezing trap, then place this down wen hes about to break) or arena. placing one in the mid. still, looks like itl take alot of practice to work it right
MLGgruntbiteBR 3 years ago
yeah but it will be a lot like a lucky shot just to freeze lol
darkdiabolica 3 years ago
I still think it should have been an actual "shot" It would work just like a poly or the new shaman hex or the one ret ability. If you have a mage or a pally in your group you can really forget about Cc. Putting a trap down and chain traping < one button and back to the fight.
chickenzwings 3 years ago
all of you idiots saying hunters suck in 1vs1 against melee obviously suck... very bad against lets say a warrior, i throw down a trap , he runs through it but trinkets i use pet charge then freezing trap shot same time, then i unload on him , when he gets out i use sleeping shot run back some and start shooting more, when he charges in mid charge i scatter shot, then drop a trap infront of me, so he charges again if his time is up, thing is i had readiness, do all again ,Haywire destromath SRVR
ArfurKnaar 3 years ago
really dude cause your stupid, freezing shot shares the same cooldown as freezing trap so... yeah and unless your some kind of survival/marks hybrid your little trick doesn't work anymore, try again kid
14M4G0D 3 years ago
cause hunters suck :]
watrundeadwarrior 3 years ago
sry wasnt my favorite :(
7nvr26y8 3 years ago
Why does Blizzard hate us so ;_;
OMGitsFay 3 years ago 5
Tree Druids no longer have a -movement speed -.-
Myzou77 3 years ago
Thanks for the video mate. With flare nurfed and now this sorry excuse for a new shot, its pretty sad. i think Blizzard are trying to tell us something.
spriggan969 3 years ago
hunter now suck?
my main is a hunter , and they screwed aimed shot... now hunter , i think , are screw. Voley help in AV... but in 1 on 1 ... yeah , hunter now do suck
kyro91 3 years ago
naw, MM stil r awesome, least against casters. anythin that does melee can still screw all hunts.
qwertzy1111 3 years ago
What... melee?
klg501 3 years ago
yeah pretty bad, but imagine you see a rogue very well geared defending flag, your on the upper level wsg of course, you shoot a freezing arrow at him then take the flag while he is frozen :D
but yeah, i want camo back
fpiceail 3 years ago
The rogue (if unstealthed for some reason) would run before the shot is armed...
This really stinks. The travel time must be lowered to 1/4 and be instantly armed and even then it will be hard to use (targeting system is lame for PvP).
Just give us a enemy centered AoE ensnare shot instead.... or much better, camouflage.
Sagramorbald 3 years ago
Damn bunnies cant be trapped :(
zchipmunk 3 years ago 3
The only thing worthless for pvp in this video is you.
How about pulling your arm out of your loose bunghole for your next vid ?
dogmeathaha 3 years ago
cooooool gun
flemach 3 years ago
Hit me with your best shot! Well I can see that there really is nothing to look forward to on my hunter at 80. * Delete *
Why did they give us a worthless skill that we already have. That's like giving rogue's a new kind of poison at 80.
Imagine if you or the enemy was lagging? Lawl that's not exactly gonna be easy to fire off.
Only thing I can see it good for is rogues who are in stealth and you know where they're at. Even then I think volley would do better......
Steven205 3 years ago
aah i love hunters but they are too simple but i dont care:)
sukkahiki666 3 years ago
just a matter of time till blizz makes hunter fire their own pets at the enemies and calling it, rocket charge.. ofc beastmastery last talent. nerf beastal tree
Garunnu 3 years ago
You can indeed send it on a caster who's preparing his overkill 5+sec cast spell.
But that's quite situational. You could also argue that it's quite good for trapping AFK dudes :|
The arming time and is visibility ruins the thing. Caster may fall for it if the guy wants his pyro to go. But a flag carrier ? If clever, you just avoid it.
It has some uses (even if it only forces people to avoid it, that can be somehow used to our advantage) but it's overall crappy, and for a lvl80spell, an insult
BZHAngus 3 years ago
i think its amazing!, mage is casting pyroblast?, oh frozen? flag runners, if you l2time youll wreck.
CruxialGames 3 years ago
Thank god you can't trap yourself or the entire huntard community would collapse...
jukonbelcik 3 years ago
what if you go by the other player and shoot it so you wouldnt have to wait hehe
retardwowkid 3 years ago
well you always can put it on casting mage or what ever who cant move exept if theyre good they just can dodge it still pretty easy
luputtaja 3 years ago
Meh.
Huntards are those who don't know how to trap properly.
Hints :
- lay trap out of the combat area so no one breaks you beloved trap later. Better : get some brained buddies who can understand the whole cc concept.
- pewpewpew the mob, it comes to hug you
- if mob is a caster, either => leader is an idiot AND/OR => run behind a wall so caster has to come close
- voila, mob is cc'ed, target tank hit F and pewpew the focus, but before, step back, lay a 2nd trap so mob will be chain trapped
BZHAngus 3 years ago
Amazing, isn't it ?
The guy is completely right : this spell is a complete failure.
At best, it's merely situational.
We could already trap mobs, even caster, and sometimes pvp targets.
Did they change this during late beta stages ?
The trap needs to be immediatly effective, and invisible to others.
Else, if it stays as shown in the video it's just a 99%useless option to the basic trap.
I wouldn't use this as a glyph.
So as a lvl80 spell, it's a bad joke.
BZHAngus 3 years ago
The cum shot makes a comeback! (for those that remembered the fantastic graphic there once was for Volley)
Frazzledotd 3 years ago
oh and if u want to talk shyt, i welcome u tards to try. server: Azuremyst name: mesuilame
wordofone 3 years ago
Is that your word of one for me?
gumphood 3 years ago
another note, its tards like u that give hunters a bad name...y dont u noobs go back to making locks. or better yet, flood wotlk with death knights. baka!!!
wordofone 3 years ago
ur all idiots...its for PVE. so instead of waiting for an enemy to run to ur trap and haveing like a few seconds to react to a trap break, the tank will know to pull ur trap target from the get go. and also if ur using freezing trap in pvp ur a tard who will get no where. put ur mana to better use noob. why would u waste mana and more importantly time. dont freeze the enemy, burn the fuker down. when u freeze him, u idiots dont realize you are also giving ur opponent time to think.
wordofone 3 years ago
Your not thinking of many ways it could be used, no one duels anymore.. its all BG's, say you see someone going up a tower, or incoming to the base, you could fire a trap up there, where you cant just place one right away normally, when they try going for it, bam, frozen.
GG on the QQ'ing though.
blissfulltorment 3 years ago
People dont duel for fun? People dont duel for achievements? You must not duel but other people do. Besides PvP = welfare epics
purplehaze1161 3 years ago
yay! another hunter with an annoying pet! Never seen that one before.
sandman9884 3 years ago
I think the only way for this to be viable in PvP is where there are multiple players, not just 2v2 arenas for example. I personally would've loved if this would've shot an frost trap insted.
Xtazey 3 years ago
Yeah...its mainly to get rid of mages saying "i ll just sheep that"
Sh4dowGin 3 years ago
man use scatter shot then freeing arrow
MARTINBLAZOK 3 years ago 2
When you use scatter shot are you so close to the target it dosn't pay off to fire it, you can lay a trap manual instead
Blackie3391 3 years ago
yes. that is exactly right, he says it sucks in pvp, but come on ppl, lets face it there will be many ways for hunters to make this skill become GREAT in pvp.
JOHNGTG 3 years ago
Scatter Shot is now for Survival hunters
purplehaze1161 3 years ago
wat lvl can i get freezing arrow??
killian694 3 years ago
trust me ppl find ways to get sick with skills. wait a few months u will see pvp vids of people owning it up with freezing shot.
EVM3point0 3 years ago
i dont think its made for pvp its mosty like a pve thingy cuase ive been thinkin and saying "this is shit" but if u think about it in a instance or raid its quite helpful :]
FastDavid13 3 years ago
Like I said, its like Misdirection. Its a PvE ability.
gumphood 3 years ago
tho i feel itl be kinda nice tho in arenas when a lock is just pole dancing
cedrazor 3 years ago
actually seems like this would be pretty usefull if you were being attacked and just fired on yourself, extremely effective against pets, and somewhat effective on not-so-observant melee fighters
correct?
thefrogsalterego 3 years ago
You could just drop a trap instead
gumphood 3 years ago
I think this ability will be really good for battlegrounds where people play like crap and have no situational awareness. Unless they do something about the arming time, why not make it more like the ice mages's elemental frost nova?
Frequencies01 3 years ago
this skill isnt so useless. 1on1 battle = yes.
otherwise.. not at all.
Raamen123 3 years ago
This skill offers nothing new to the table, unlike ALL other level 80 skills. It's purpose, which was said in Blizzcon, is just to make trap pulls much faster. THAT'S ALL.
If that were the case, ALL traps should be turned into toss-shots like this.
It's arm time occurs only after landing, and with the lovely nova graphic, it makes it that only half-assed players will actually STAND there and get hit by it. USELESS for PvP. Adds NOTHING new for competent hunters in PvE. It's utter garbage.
CodeXCDM 3 years ago
Hunters are gonna be the new retardins xD
immortaliserwow 3 years ago
I really hate to say this, but I think it's a matter of your not wanting to see it as a good ability. If your partners running to you in arena you can shoot it before them, they run through the trap, and it'll snare whoever is running after them. There's uses for this trap, it may not be ideal I'll admit, but I think you're making it out to be much worse than it really is.
Vekuru 3 years ago
wow its going to take skill to interpret where they are gonna be when it lands WE CANT HAVE THAT ALL THE HUNTARDS WILL DIE!
Ryze244 3 years ago
i like the vid, its nice and funny, i'm glad blizz fixed it though
oromisszane 3 years ago
blizz make it freezing 'shot' not freezing 'trap shot' y'know launch - frozen, not; launch - trap - frozen
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gumphood 3 years ago
I really thought a nice hunter ability would be instead of shooting out the trap it shoots out a net that traps everything in so much of a radius. And where if you damage the things caught it wont break the effect. Due to it's slow shoot time and pretty hard to catch something it would be nice to get a neat pwnage few seconds. Volley, explosive shot, multishot. xp
fireliar90 3 years ago
maybe if it doesnt go into the air and just shoots at the ground somewhat like arcane shot...and doesnt have the arm time.
5S5S5S5 3 years ago
After seeing the effect of the "shot" hitting the ground, it looks like the shot -could- do an AoE snare/root. I'm not saying that is what it -should- do, but it looks like that's what it -could- do. I -like- these "-" if you can't tell.
Keremag 3 years ago
Nah,it ain't totally useless for PvE. Even tho, the throw time will make me cry ..
henriksson77 3 years ago
I agree with you - this will be nice for PvE in a few spots.
But PvP - no good.
gumphood 3 years ago
The only thing I can think of is using it in the tunnels in WSG.
What a worthless half-assed talent.
dizeestl 3 years ago
it works on a npc somewhere if you want to lock and load right away
5S5S5S5 3 years ago
ok, so _does_ suck, I agree. But the idéa itself is not so bad, it just needs a bit of work. And yeah, the time it takes for it to arm is ridiculous. The trap needs to arm in the air so it goes off right when it lands.
Viconiuz 3 years ago
i think it should be similar to frost nova so when it lands it sends out a frost nova like spell
Dildrum6 3 years ago
This is pretty bad for PvE too. I'm perfectly fine with sticking to the usual LoS tricks with the vanilla Freeze Trap.
This ability makes me sick. Come on now Blizzard, give us a level 80 ability that isn't just our level 20 ability in shootable form.
Pepitobenito 3 years ago
traps are invisible??? =DDD
Scorpion7T 3 years ago
hmm, dwarf Lu?
tehzhangxzor 3 years ago
In PvE, if you try to trap with this, and miss by an inch... well, thats it, your screwed!
justsomedude123 3 years ago
GAME BREAKING ABILITY.
Asterik103 3 years ago
You said somthing about it might work against a resto druid in tree from, I assume because they walk slower, however they no longer run slower in tree from now so even trees don't fear that awesome trap effect hehe, Hunters have been given a lot of love tho with new pet talents so its not all bad. ;)
Jmosneaker 3 years ago
Oh yeah - I didn't realize that - we'll there goes that theory!
gumphood 3 years ago
Still love these, lol
Daggers54 3 years ago