just wondering if you ever got this problem fixed? and how? what was the cause of this? my truck is doing the exact same thing and havnt been able to figure out what the cause is.
@t25587 The cause is soot build up on the veins of the turbo. It is basically a design flaw involving the turbo & EGR valve. Once the engine does what mine did the fix is rebuilding (cleaning) the turbo or replacing it. Fortunately mine was replaced on warranty and ever since then I add Ford's Cetane Booster/Performance Improver. It was recommended by the service manager and for the last 24,000 miles the engine has run smooth and strong with no signs of backfire.
CUMMINS TURBO DIESEL...................= The Cure. I had a ford aswell.My Uncle has the same sheeit. He is selling it now. I love Ford, but they change engines,,heads,,turbos,, way to much trying to still figure it our they are.!!!!!!!!!
@gpm414 is spot on. The veins clog up w soot. Ive Been working on these 6.0 engines since they came out. I feel sorry for folks who own them. They are a maintenance nightmare for the owner. BUT a money maker for repair shops. Tho a great engine when taken care of. Requires much more care than any other diesel.
your problem is not driving it i had a 07 over 130,000 and never a problem the 6.0l was designed to put your foot in it and not idle around or sit they need to be driven almost everyday and yes put your foot in it that is what keeps them clean most people don't they baby them like it was a dodge but they were not made for that
if u notice ford has to super charge or turbo everything to get enough horse power. Chevy don't. i love chevy but i like fords to just ford has to many problems for me
I just bought a 2006 6.0 F-250 truck and the second day I had it the truck made that sound and black smoke from the exhaust with 54000 miles on it. Looks like the dealer is buying me a new turbo.
2004 with 22k ON IT.. im not saying this disrepectfully but ur problem is you need to drive the truck. I have seen plenty of 03 and 04 that are still running like a champ at 200K. when you let the truck sit for days or even a weed the veins in the turbo will start to stick. With these trucks you will maintain everyday reliability when you drive it on a day to day basis.
the 7.3l powerstroke, and the duramax are the best most reliable diesel engines out there. cummins is shit for the main reason of i dont know how, or do i even care to work on them! the 6.0 and 6.4 are total crap and ass for the "duratrash" comment below me, a powerstroke and duramax are about even in towing, as for speed its duramax 100% stock on stock.
@024x4lb7 Any reason on why the 6L and the 6.4L are crap motors? My 6L has an EGR delete, ARP Headstuds, Exhaust, Intake and a Custom SCT Tune from Eric at Innovative Diesel. My truck blows the doors off Duramax's and Cummins and right now is making about 503hp to the wheels.
sounds like you FAILED to take it in for the recall.and i find it sad the you only put 22k on a truck that was 3 years old.hahhaha my 09 has 100k on it already
Almost sounds like what they call a "turbo fart"..Dont quote me on it..But thats when the air is getting forced back into the intake because it has no place to go..not sure on how to fix it though lol.
Definitely your EGR valve. The earlier models like the 2003 and 2004 had this problem. Dump the oil, buy an EGR delete kit, yank off the turbo and clean the veins and put some new oil in it. Also when your filling it with gas use a fuel additive such as Lucas. I've gained about 3mpg just by using it. These trucks weren't that reliable in the 03 and 04 models, but 2005 and up are pretty good. Hope this helps!
thats a 2003 6.0 and the unison ring that moves the veins inside the turbo are stuck closed... you have the split the turbo in half and clean it up, but when they sound that bad you usually have to replace the turbo
lol why would you buy a d-max so you can brake tie rods lol they r so week on thos trucks, and this isnt even a big problem some trucks over boost in cold weather its just a turbo thing unless his turbo is fucked up which isnt a big deal either
I bought a new 6.0 and don't have a complaint(I did upgrade to the fixed egr system, and arp headstuds) These motors are great if you; 1)Use the best quality diesel fuel, 2)Perform proper maintenence, 3) Don't upgrade your truck without being aware of the consequences, that guy bought a truck with a plugged EGR valve, and or no motor oil
i disagree any stock 7.3 WILL rape a d-max sideways ther oaver engendered boat anchors all ther good for is getting hot n melting down as soon as you put a little more fuel to them.
where have you been idiot.. the new tundra's a GAS motor.. not diesel... and the 7.3 would beat the shit out of a duramax.. no in speed.. chevy's obsessed with HP but pulling and reliability.. duramax dont have the torque Ford has. and dont have the reliability of a 7.3l
yeah no shit its a gas motor but it out pulls ford and duramax...and the reliability of a duramax is great and actually the duramax has more torque that the 7.3
I believe its your variable vane actuator sticking.
Mine make the sound when you build boost and then let off the throttle, but all mine is doing is opening the vanes to let out excess boost. This is a pretty common thing with 6.0L's. I don't know why international used garrett turbo's that didn't have a wastegates.
This isnt a common problem. Every truck from any company any make that has a turbo is going to have problems! Bring it to the shop or call for help if you want to fix it yourself.
the problem is ur not driving it enough i mean a 2004 with 22,000 miles on it that is not being drivin enough and u are supposed to drive diesels at least 25-30,000 miles a year i put 40,000 a year on mine no trouble yet and 04 is when they had all their problems anyway since ford had'nt had the 6.0l very long
more than likely the vgt solenoid is acting up under full load. by the way the 7.3 was not perfect it had it own problems but not as bad as the 6.0 due to ford rushing it into the trucks to early.
You guys are all wrong... 6.0L's don't have a waste gate the have a vgt turbo to control back pressure. The problem with this truck is either a bad ebp sensor or a bad egr valve/egr throttle plate. And the cab does not have to be removed to replace the turbo... can be done in approx 1/2 hour
ah c ur prob is not the turbo yourself it is simply the waste gate is stuck if u open the waste gate you will not have that prob anymore i have fixed many of these
6.0L is simply shit. ford has never put a good truck on the market since the 7.3 i would never buy a ford now there trucks are garbage the 6.4 is horrible same wiht the 6.0 there in the shop more then there on the road.
that sucks turbo replacment for a 6.0 requires you to lift the entire cab off the frame cuz its behind the motor. 6.0s are great motors i just dont think i would own one not under warranty unless you got some deep pockets
I don't know if your still having problems with this or not, by now you've probably gotten smart and sold the sucker, but mine had the same problem. I have a 2003 6.0 and after the second turbo went out the warranty went out before I got the turbo replaced. I got hooked up with Elite Diesel out of Pueblo Colorado and they took my turbo in exchange and gave me a rebuilt one that has been running strong with no problems. The noise you were hearing on your turbo though was known as a turbo fart.
you probly have an exhaust leak thats what mine had. and i fixed it by putting a 4'' exhaust system right from the turbo and it gives it more balls to
looks like ur turbo vanes are fucked which is common in early 6.0's. if you have to get a 6.0 the 06-07 models are better. most of the probs were sorted out by then.
Yes, they replaced the turbo. You've had your turbo replaced 4 times?? I thought I had problems. Yes, people say "drive it like you stole it" but that's not the answer. I've been hoping Ford would design a turbo that works on the 6.0...probably won't happen in my life time. I'm hoping for a class action suit of the early 6.0 liter owners...probably won't happen either. I think Ford sold us a defective product and they won't admitt it or seem to care.
I think that you are correct. The last turbo I had installed, they told me that it had been re-designed. It lasted longed than the others, but 4 turbos under 60k. I agree, they have a problem. The question is, what will they do about it. If the aftermarket can design a turbo that works, why can't Ford? I am not looking for a tires smoking hot rod, just a truck that is dependable!!!
Let me know if there is an aftermarket turbo for the 6.0. It would be good to do a little research if and when I have the same problem again. I do have an extended warranty, but it won't last forever. Thanks
@gpm414 you need to drive it 22,000 miles in tree years is to little. load it up to 10,000lbs plus and let it eat. I put 30,000 miles on mine just last year half towing big loads. 210,000 miles and still going only thing I replaced is a clutch.
@rgbm01 the problem is that the 6.0l turbo is a variable vane turbo, under low load/low rpm the variable vanes stay closed under high load/high rpm the vanes open up acting like a larger turbo. the vanes can sieze in place if the truck isnt driven under a heavy load after a long time. besides that point id say a stock size aftermarket turbo would be a great upgraded. besides a 7.3l swap that is
your partially right international will not own up to their mistakes ford has tried to make things right but ih keeps screwing them on waranty work. this maybe part of the reason ford is designing their own diesel engine that will be made in house. the 6.4 seems to be a decent engine but we will never have an engine like the 7.3 simply because the epa will not lift their bs emissions regs. good luck with the truck though i hope you wont give up on the blue oval.
@gpm414 Hey man i hope you got that turbo problem fixed. Now when you say peopel tell you to drive it hard they are right. Im a diesel mechanic and the 6.0 turbo charger that its actually very good. The problem is in our crappy diesel fuel in the US. The turbo has fins that redirect the exhaust pressure to the turbine fins to make it spool faster, and this works very well. So with the bad diesel and not putting your foot in it carben builds up and restricts the turbo shaft from spinning freely.
Just found your Video. I also own a 04 Super Duty. I purchased it new. It now has 60k miles on it. I have had this same exact problem 4 times. Each time was a new turbo. The good news is it is under warranty (5yrs/100k miles) Once out of warranty, not sure what I will do with it. Have you had your problem fixed? Ford told me to drive it more and when the truck gets warmed up to "work the truck" Personally, I think that is bulls*&!! I pull a trailer with the truck 6-7 time a month.
yeah, turbo inlet tube, not a biggie, take it to the dealer a good dealer they'll take care of you! I love mine, had that problem once, 1 day later, very happy with my 250!
Obviously turbo veins are stuck. To prevent it from happening again--drive it MORE OFTEN. 22K on an 04 is just lack of use. Drive it like you stole it occassionally and it will help you tremendously.
i had the exact same problem. Your turbo hose just blew off. I had the exact same problem about 15 times and i did the lemon law. Now i have a 2007 and i haven't had a problem yet. Good luck
i dont have anything against tha power stroke but i can say that i a 97 F250 heavy duty with tha 5.8EFI with 210,000 on tha clock and the worst ive had is a worn out cluch fan and burned out bearings on a tensioner pulley
Just curious to know you didnt recently have the egr and oil cooler replaced did u?? when egr cooler leaks sufficiently moisture gets into the turbine and after a period rusts up the unison ring solid.
If your dealer hasnt done anything or says its normal take it somewhere else. at 2.05 at 40 and 2750 rpm thats way too much surge. if you keep that up ull split the turbine/ compressor shaft and the wheel will go down the exhaust, sound interesting but will wake u up. ask me how i know lol.
at 2.09 at 40mph and at 2750 rpm that thing is venting way too much. If ur dealership hasnt done nothing take it somewhere else. Ive had ones that do that excessively and end up splitting the shaft due to too much stress on thrust bearing. If you need a turbo for that i have a used one. from an 05
ok so ICP sensor is on pass side valve cover?? just making sure coz some 03 were labeled o4 in early part. Have you taken it to a dealer? and what did they say??
What year is that?? if its an 03 or 03 carry over then could be to do with inferred ebp calibration. The turbo venting like that, if not to do with calibration, is due to vanes binding and not being able to DC to desired position. Egr no dont think so, under heavy accel those vgt's will vent/surge and that is normal. yours isnt "popping" like that going along is either binding vanes or vgt solenoid. Again ford updated the solenoid to one that had a filter/screen on it.
I really think ford should have stuck with the 7.3L powerstroke Turbo Diesel and just up-graded it. Those engines are bullet proof. I actually trust them so much that I buy my F-350's used with over 150,000 miles on them.
I might be wrong or might be right but i've seen this before ford on the 6.0 same as dodge use an intercooler with plasic ends if you listen closely the turbo is working you can here the blow out valve releasing which means the turbo is pushing its boost pressure but its losing pressure somewhere else in the system more than likely a crack in the plastic ends on the intercooler its an identical problem my brother had but footnote long live the 7.3 shes never let me down 6.0 burn in hell.
The 6.0 doesn't have a by-pass valve to relieve excess boost. The turbo is a variable pitch vane design which is prone to corrosion...the vanes can stick and cause the noise you hear in the video. The only solution is to clean or replace the turbo. Early 6.0 liter owners are stuck, until Ford steps up with a recall or fix...I may not live that long.
My 2004 6.0 has been in the shop for weeks at a time. It realy likes to blow the blue hotside intercooler hose off. It has had a new turbo, injectors worked on, EGR Valve replaced one time and cleaned one time. Fuel pump replaced, AC lines replaced, and they just put one more of those dang blue hoses on today, that would be number 4. Can not for get the new head gaskets and the transmition valve-body, that is all be for 60,000 miles. Mmmm..Dodges are looking very good.
We have a 2004 F-550 6.0 that sounded like your truck. It was the egr valve carboned up that caused it. Try unplugging the valve and see if that helps. The valve is on the top front of the engine next to the oil filter. Unplug the wire and if that's the problem it'll run like new.
I as well had a similar problem with my 2003 f-350 dully, with the 6.0 in it. I bought it right when the new engine came out. I blame all the emissions crap they put on it because my 2000 f-350 with the 7.3 never gave me any problems. anyways ive taken it in a number of times and so far i havent had any problems.
You can avoid turbo trouble by simply letting the vehicle idle for 3 minutes before shutting it down. This action allows the turbo to cool down, and will prolong the life of your turbo.
Yes you are right...cool down is an important thing to do with turo diesels, I've always done it since the truck was brand new. Must be another reason behind the problem in my truck.
On my 2003 6.0L I had my turbo go out too. If you are still having problems and there is a grinding type noise made and the truck kinda "lunges" it is your injectors, I had my injectors replaced after the turbo and it was fine.
hello!! i would have to say not all ford turbos do that only, 2.5 percent. have problems and specially when you do dont warm enough your engine or wait for the turbo pressure to equalize after a long trip
So where do you get the 2.5 percent? Are you a Ford tech? The problem with the turbo in my truck has nothing to do with "not warming it up, or waiting for the pressure to equalize". I read that the 6.0 liter diesel has the highest warranty claims of any vehicle that Ford has built...claimed to be over 50 million dollars. With all the feedback from owners with problems, I really doubt that it's only 2.5%
back out the intake, and that is the chuff chuff noise. My 7.3L does it also sometimes if I let off very quickly from wot. The condition you have, is not normal. Most trucks that have the problem with the vanes, are trucks that are typically not worked, idled alot, etc
There is another way the vanes can stick, open, and it will cause you to not build boost. The early trucks, did have a problem, and the VGT Technology was new, all VGT trubos have had the problem, and keep in mind, it's not a Ford Turbo, it's a Garrett Turbo, so Not Ford's Fault. Take Care Now:)
Ok, so Ford didn't build the turbo...but they put it on the truck they sold me. So do you think Ford should back the product they sold me? Didn't International build the 6.0 liter engine that Ford put in their Super Duty? From my view, Ford should step up with a solution other than replacing the turbo with the same faulty product.
What you're experianceing (late at night cant spell, sorry) Is called Turbo Stall/Surge, and is caused by your vanes being stuck closed, and the turbo is over-boosting, and sending the excess boost
Hi my name is robert neufield and i am from Langley BC canada. You want my advise go with the BD Power Borg Warner S300 Turbocharger for the 6.0 Diesel. This New Turbocharger give top end power, quick, accurate response and so on can you tell me you email address please trust me this turbo is better than stock okay thanks great power
The problem with the stock turbos seems to be they suffer from corrosion and carbon build up which causes the vanes to stick. Replacing the turbo helps, but for how long. Ford needs or someone needs to come up with a turbo that will last. I'll look into the BD unit.
thats what mine sounds like when the motor is cold, but after it warms up it stops. hopefully you have fixed the problem, and hopefully you didnt take it to your ford dealership, if there is a big rid repair shop in town i would take it there unless the truck is still under warranty. hmmmm...a 04 with 22,000 miles on it, that should have been a big red light.
Visit this website Ford Truck Enthusiast this is not a terrible thing you truck is doing and the sound is from the turbo. But you should have this fixed. Chuffa Chuffa Chuffa is what the diesel truck guys call this noise.
You're right it is turbo problem. However I disagree that "its not a terrible thing". I never would have bought the truck if it did this on the test drive...would you? It's a problem many early 6.0 liter Ford diesels have. It's not normal or acceptable by any way.
Great video man now I know whats wrong w my truck
mexiking11 1 week ago
just wondering if you ever got this problem fixed? and how? what was the cause of this? my truck is doing the exact same thing and havnt been able to figure out what the cause is.
t25587 3 weeks ago
@t25587 The cause is soot build up on the veins of the turbo. It is basically a design flaw involving the turbo & EGR valve. Once the engine does what mine did the fix is rebuilding (cleaning) the turbo or replacing it. Fortunately mine was replaced on warranty and ever since then I add Ford's Cetane Booster/Performance Improver. It was recommended by the service manager and for the last 24,000 miles the engine has run smooth and strong with no signs of backfire.
gpm414 2 weeks ago
what ended up being the problem?
lizardman212002 3 months ago
CUMMINS TURBO DIESEL...................= The Cure. I had a ford aswell.My Uncle has the same sheeit. He is selling it now. I love Ford, but they change engines,,heads,,turbos,, way to much trying to still figure it our they are.!!!!!!!!!
MrJimzyacking 1 year ago
runs like a ford!!!
mattv03 1 year ago
@gpm414 is spot on. The veins clog up w soot. Ive Been working on these 6.0 engines since they came out. I feel sorry for folks who own them. They are a maintenance nightmare for the owner. BUT a money maker for repair shops. Tho a great engine when taken care of. Requires much more care than any other diesel.
TheAcemechanic 1 year ago
your problem is not driving it i had a 07 over 130,000 and never a problem the 6.0l was designed to put your foot in it and not idle around or sit they need to be driven almost everyday and yes put your foot in it that is what keeps them clean most people don't they baby them like it was a dodge but they were not made for that
oney135 1 year ago
ive got an 06 F250 6.0 and knock on wood it has not given me any trouble at all
79Truckpullin 1 year ago
You could just buy a Dodge? Simple as that,
videoman223 1 year ago
@videoman223 why would he do that,so that the body will rust away or leave him stranded on the side of the road because of there junk transmissions
04popo700 1 year ago
if u notice ford has to super charge or turbo everything to get enough horse power. Chevy don't. i love chevy but i like fords to just ford has to many problems for me
thatoneguy752 1 year ago
I just bought a 2006 6.0 F-250 truck and the second day I had it the truck made that sound and black smoke from the exhaust with 54000 miles on it. Looks like the dealer is buying me a new turbo.
djarizona 1 year ago
22000 miles. RELIABLE
kawirider206 1 year ago
2004 with 22k ON IT.. im not saying this disrepectfully but ur problem is you need to drive the truck. I have seen plenty of 03 and 04 that are still running like a champ at 200K. when you let the truck sit for days or even a weed the veins in the turbo will start to stick. With these trucks you will maintain everyday reliability when you drive it on a day to day basis.
znofxz 1 year ago
Get an 07 turbo, that's your fix.
Hotrodx199 1 year ago
its the turbos veins sticking..... same thing happened to my dads 03 at 21000
kellysap1989 1 year ago
the problem is u got a 6.0 the 7.3 or the 6.9 is what u need
masonransom 1 year ago
the 7.3l powerstroke, and the duramax are the best most reliable diesel engines out there. cummins is shit for the main reason of i dont know how, or do i even care to work on them! the 6.0 and 6.4 are total crap and ass for the "duratrash" comment below me, a powerstroke and duramax are about even in towing, as for speed its duramax 100% stock on stock.
024x4lb7 1 year ago
@024x4lb7 Any reason on why the 6L and the 6.4L are crap motors? My 6L has an EGR delete, ARP Headstuds, Exhaust, Intake and a Custom SCT Tune from Eric at Innovative Diesel. My truck blows the doors off Duramax's and Cummins and right now is making about 503hp to the wheels.
Dieselboy350 1 year ago
dude your porblem is that you have a ford get a chevy at the beging he said it was march 25th then at the end he said it was march 26th ??
aaronkillall 1 year ago
really bad compressor surge
methanol30 1 year ago
sounds like you FAILED to take it in for the recall.and i find it sad the you only put 22k on a truck that was 3 years old.hahhaha my 09 has 100k on it already
robby844 1 year ago
i know your problem...... its a ford
1gt289 2 years ago
@1gt289 The turbo is made by Garrett and last i checked Chevy also used a turbo built by Garrett. And Garrett is by Honeywell, so blame them.
ajbkid 1 year ago
Almost sounds like what they call a "turbo fart"..Dont quote me on it..But thats when the air is getting forced back into the intake because it has no place to go..not sure on how to fix it though lol.
sycamorelanes 2 years ago
looks about right for acceleration to me! j/k.
kaluz82 2 years ago
hi from maine my ford is doing the same thing. did you just replace the turbo
foxrunxtywood 2 years ago
truck sounds like it has asthma. sorry about the problems and hope you get it fixed
schlaznger 2 years ago
a friend of mine's truck did this
he took apart the turbo , sandblasted it (cleaning it should work) and put it back together and that fixed it.
also delete the egr.
has this truck idled alot? b/c that is really hard on vgt turbos
johnnybowtienumber1 2 years ago
Definitely your EGR valve. The earlier models like the 2003 and 2004 had this problem. Dump the oil, buy an EGR delete kit, yank off the turbo and clean the veins and put some new oil in it. Also when your filling it with gas use a fuel additive such as Lucas. I've gained about 3mpg just by using it. These trucks weren't that reliable in the 03 and 04 models, but 2005 and up are pretty good. Hope this helps!
patrick4758 2 years ago
@patrick4758 how many mpg do you get?
jpmart53 2 years ago
this is why you should buy a chevy!!
silveradobeast 2 years ago
Did Ford Ever manage to fix your turbo problems ? Do you still own the truck ?
becxlt 2 years ago
its not the turbo
mattherklotz 2 years ago
It sounds like a bad EGR valve, common problem with 03' and 04' if you get some bad fuel.
Thesupersmith79 2 years ago
unhook both batterys for like 20 min. than take it for a spin around the block not flooring it.. it will reset everything.. my uncles PSD did that...
chevyblows2001 2 years ago
unplug your ebp sensor see if it fixes it if so go get it reprogrammed and tape that connector up
collintbrattlof 2 years ago
i take back what i said i didnt watch the whole vid... thats the egr valve regulating back pressure... is it a california emissions?
collintbrattlof 2 years ago
everything is CA emmisions nowerdays.
chevyblows2001 2 years ago
thats a 2003 6.0 and the unison ring that moves the veins inside the turbo are stuck closed... you have the split the turbo in half and clean it up, but when they sound that bad you usually have to replace the turbo
collintbrattlof 2 years ago
lol why would you buy a d-max so you can brake tie rods lol they r so week on thos trucks, and this isnt even a big problem some trucks over boost in cold weather its just a turbo thing unless his turbo is fucked up which isnt a big deal either
classoo7 2 years ago
It doesnt matter what type of fucking truck you buy you take care of the thing its going to last.
murrayca 2 years ago 5
tell that to the guy that lives im my town and bought a new 6.0l ford got 13km on it and it through a rod through the side of the block
markljesse 2 years ago
I bought a new 6.0 and don't have a complaint(I did upgrade to the fixed egr system, and arp headstuds) These motors are great if you; 1)Use the best quality diesel fuel, 2)Perform proper maintenence, 3) Don't upgrade your truck without being aware of the consequences, that guy bought a truck with a plugged EGR valve, and or no motor oil
orbitofdoom16 2 years ago
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thats exactly why u get a D-MAX diesel!!!!!!
GM all the way baby. fuck those shit box fords!!!! they all just need to be left on jack stands or taken to scrap metal!!!!
motomike350 2 years ago
i disagree any stock 7.3 WILL rape a d-max sideways ther oaver engendered boat anchors all ther good for is getting hot n melting down as soon as you put a little more fuel to them.
sevenseventysevencus 2 years ago 2
powerstroke will kick any duratrashes ass.. in pulling.. for damn sure..
chevyblows2001 2 years ago 6
yeah i dont know where you have been but duramax beats every truck on the line now except for the new tundras
67YETI67 2 years ago
where have you been idiot.. the new tundra's a GAS motor.. not diesel... and the 7.3 would beat the shit out of a duramax.. no in speed.. chevy's obsessed with HP but pulling and reliability.. duramax dont have the torque Ford has. and dont have the reliability of a 7.3l
chevyblows2001 2 years ago
yeah no shit its a gas motor but it out pulls ford and duramax...and the reliability of a duramax is great and actually the duramax has more torque that the 7.3
67YETI67 2 years ago
@chevyblows2001 ford guys are all retarded, nothing more to say than that.
30301500 11 months ago
i know your problem its a ford lol jk ford's allright but id rather have a chevy
sayer308 2 years ago
damn straight!!
67YETI67 2 years ago
I believe its your variable vane actuator sticking.
Mine make the sound when you build boost and then let off the throttle, but all mine is doing is opening the vanes to let out excess boost. This is a pretty common thing with 6.0L's. I don't know why international used garrett turbo's that didn't have a wastegates.
ford616 2 years ago
This isnt a common problem. Every truck from any company any make that has a turbo is going to have problems! Bring it to the shop or call for help if you want to fix it yourself.
makattak88 2 years ago
thats why u buy a duramax! LOL!
mklbiy 2 years ago
learn to drive the truck its ur fault for the problem not the trucks
bowtiekilla21 2 years ago
the problem is ur not driving it enough i mean a 2004 with 22,000 miles on it that is not being drivin enough and u are supposed to drive diesels at least 25-30,000 miles a year i put 40,000 a year on mine no trouble yet and 04 is when they had all their problems anyway since ford had'nt had the 6.0l very long
oney135 2 years ago
get your turbo cleaned
AJSFordMan 2 years ago
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is the truck regular gas or a diesel
kid4king0097 2 years ago
All you need is a Dodge.
BananaBoxMonkey 2 years ago
more than likely the vgt solenoid is acting up under full load. by the way the 7.3 was not perfect it had it own problems but not as bad as the 6.0 due to ford rushing it into the trucks to early.
pullerofeasternnc 2 years ago
If yor truck is the 6.0 litre diesel and the turbo lags realy bad then all you need to do is:
1) Shift into Nuetral
2) Rev the hell out of it to burn the carbon build up in the turbo!
3) If it not that, talk to Powerstrokehelp!
F650Rcr 2 years ago
All you need is a new truck
MoparMadness1969 3 years ago 3
LOL All these tech experts. It's just sticking vanes in the exhaust housing (Variable vane turbo).
Dreg555 3 years ago
correct me if i am wrong, is it a wastegate problem?
katd89306 3 years ago
no, there is no wastegate on the VGT turbo.
sounds like a turbo fart to me. clean the turbo.
sspeedemonss 3 years ago
there is no wastegate on the 6.0
jay0173 2 years ago
im a car guy but i can tell your loosing boost bad!! its under warrenty
GeaserakaErik 3 years ago
ford is my favorite brand of truck but the 6.0 is shit. i have a 7.3 with a chip and i dont think ill trade it for any thing.
clayton1clayton1 3 years ago 2
You guys are all wrong... 6.0L's don't have a waste gate the have a vgt turbo to control back pressure. The problem with this truck is either a bad ebp sensor or a bad egr valve/egr throttle plate. And the cab does not have to be removed to replace the turbo... can be done in approx 1/2 hour
6Literzrule 3 years ago 2
ah c ur prob is not the turbo yourself it is simply the waste gate is stuck if u open the waste gate you will not have that prob anymore i have fixed many of these
internationalyamaha 3 years ago
6.0L is simply shit. ford has never put a good truck on the market since the 7.3 i would never buy a ford now there trucks are garbage the 6.4 is horrible same wiht the 6.0 there in the shop more then there on the road.
BROWNIE122 3 years ago
that sucks turbo replacment for a 6.0 requires you to lift the entire cab off the frame cuz its behind the motor. 6.0s are great motors i just dont think i would own one not under warranty unless you got some deep pockets
builtfordtuff95 3 years ago
You do not need to lift up the cab.
drakeman666 3 years ago
our 6.0 did the same thing... took it in the shop and it need a turbo, egr valve and #8 injector reblaced... thank god it was still under warranty..
TrueRedNecks 3 years ago
what a krappy truck hahahahahahahahahahhaa
missporshcarreragirl 3 years ago
what a crappy coment hahahhahahahahahahaha
WHOULOOKINAT123 3 years ago
I don't know if your still having problems with this or not, by now you've probably gotten smart and sold the sucker, but mine had the same problem. I have a 2003 6.0 and after the second turbo went out the warranty went out before I got the turbo replaced. I got hooked up with Elite Diesel out of Pueblo Colorado and they took my turbo in exchange and gave me a rebuilt one that has been running strong with no problems. The noise you were hearing on your turbo though was known as a turbo fart.
bluefordy 3 years ago
you probly have an exhaust leak thats what mine had. and i fixed it by putting a 4'' exhaust system right from the turbo and it gives it more balls to
doofus615 3 years ago
No get a tundra with 380 hp
johnkimble2007 3 years ago
yup thats exactly right i haul cars with an 07 tundra and it is just absolutly great with the hp and torque
67YETI67 2 years ago
imports are like tampons every person has one
7point3powerstroker 2 years ago
Driving Honda is like sleeping with a fat chick, Ok till your friends find out.
Pyroman7489 2 years ago
um thats not how it goes.
robby844 1 year ago
I want to get a f250-f350 but after this you guys are scaring me, should I get one?
jrgonz1979 3 years ago
yea there hella strong trucks, the 7.3 is what you wana look for though
lickenboobies 3 years ago
looks like ur turbo vanes are fucked which is common in early 6.0's. if you have to get a 6.0 the 06-07 models are better. most of the probs were sorted out by then.
seniorcat03 3 years ago
Yes, they replaced the turbo. You've had your turbo replaced 4 times?? I thought I had problems. Yes, people say "drive it like you stole it" but that's not the answer. I've been hoping Ford would design a turbo that works on the 6.0...probably won't happen in my life time. I'm hoping for a class action suit of the early 6.0 liter owners...probably won't happen either. I think Ford sold us a defective product and they won't admitt it or seem to care.
gpm414 3 years ago
I think that you are correct. The last turbo I had installed, they told me that it had been re-designed. It lasted longed than the others, but 4 turbos under 60k. I agree, they have a problem. The question is, what will they do about it. If the aftermarket can design a turbo that works, why can't Ford? I am not looking for a tires smoking hot rod, just a truck that is dependable!!!
rgbm01 3 years ago
Let me know if there is an aftermarket turbo for the 6.0. It would be good to do a little research if and when I have the same problem again. I do have an extended warranty, but it won't last forever. Thanks
gpm414 3 years ago
R u loosing boost intermitantly?
Fit boost gauge to be sure, u may just have a leaking pipe?
Unless turbo was seizing why would it work intermitantly?
Wastegate fault?
Where is the noise coming from?
It does sound like a leak, why would a faulty turbo make such a noise?
Get fault codes checked, usually turbos run or break not halfway between from what I have seen, also they smoke when bearings go.
Strange.
tpvalley 3 years ago
@gpm414 you need to drive it 22,000 miles in tree years is to little. load it up to 10,000lbs plus and let it eat. I put 30,000 miles on mine just last year half towing big loads. 210,000 miles and still going only thing I replaced is a clutch.
wdmforrent1 1 year ago
@rgbm01 why can't ford i tell you why they just want your money lol
chevydiesel350015 1 year ago
@rgbm01 the problem is that the 6.0l turbo is a variable vane turbo, under low load/low rpm the variable vanes stay closed under high load/high rpm the vanes open up acting like a larger turbo. the vanes can sieze in place if the truck isnt driven under a heavy load after a long time. besides that point id say a stock size aftermarket turbo would be a great upgraded. besides a 7.3l swap that is
landyacht06 1 year ago
your partially right international will not own up to their mistakes ford has tried to make things right but ih keeps screwing them on waranty work. this maybe part of the reason ford is designing their own diesel engine that will be made in house. the 6.4 seems to be a decent engine but we will never have an engine like the 7.3 simply because the epa will not lift their bs emissions regs. good luck with the truck though i hope you wont give up on the blue oval.
nightriderpsd 3 years ago
@gpm414 Hey man i hope you got that turbo problem fixed. Now when you say peopel tell you to drive it hard they are right. Im a diesel mechanic and the 6.0 turbo charger that its actually very good. The problem is in our crappy diesel fuel in the US. The turbo has fins that redirect the exhaust pressure to the turbine fins to make it spool faster, and this works very well. So with the bad diesel and not putting your foot in it carben builds up and restricts the turbo shaft from spinning freely.
V8mo50 1 year ago
Just found your Video. I also own a 04 Super Duty. I purchased it new. It now has 60k miles on it. I have had this same exact problem 4 times. Each time was a new turbo. The good news is it is under warranty (5yrs/100k miles) Once out of warranty, not sure what I will do with it. Have you had your problem fixed? Ford told me to drive it more and when the truck gets warmed up to "work the truck" Personally, I think that is bulls*&!! I pull a trailer with the truck 6-7 time a month.
rgbm01 3 years ago
yea its your exhaust preasure sensor just changed mine. so yea
tiggy1998gt 3 years ago
Weird, Mine has never had any problems. I have a 2004 Diesel, and the turbos never had a problem
cooperslandscaping07 3 years ago
yeah, turbo inlet tube, not a biggie, take it to the dealer a good dealer they'll take care of you! I love mine, had that problem once, 1 day later, very happy with my 250!
PaxtonGT 3 years ago
Obviously turbo veins are stuck. To prevent it from happening again--drive it MORE OFTEN. 22K on an 04 is just lack of use. Drive it like you stole it occassionally and it will help you tremendously.
npccpartsman 3 years ago 3
i had the exact same problem. Your turbo hose just blew off. I had the exact same problem about 15 times and i did the lemon law. Now i have a 2007 and i haven't had a problem yet. Good luck
redhog669 4 years ago
i never really cared for ford diesels. i always go for gas with ford.
cheddarbiskit1 4 years ago
i dont have anything against tha power stroke but i can say that i a 97 F250 heavy duty with tha 5.8EFI with 210,000 on tha clock and the worst ive had is a worn out cluch fan and burned out bearings on a tensioner pulley
sixstringsniper922 4 years ago
dang. when i get into the 3 grand range like that in my 02 7.3 that thing is screamin n haulin. that deff aint right.
chupp75 4 years ago
ok. Hope its fixed now. all the best.
keffa11 4 years ago
Just curious to know you didnt recently have the egr and oil cooler replaced did u?? when egr cooler leaks sufficiently moisture gets into the turbine and after a period rusts up the unison ring solid.
keffa11 4 years ago
No, just the turbo
gpm414 4 years ago
If your dealer hasnt done anything or says its normal take it somewhere else. at 2.05 at 40 and 2750 rpm thats way too much surge. if you keep that up ull split the turbine/ compressor shaft and the wheel will go down the exhaust, sound interesting but will wake u up. ask me how i know lol.
keffa11 4 years ago
The dealer replaced the turbo...now I will wait and see if it happens again. The vanes were sticking in the turbo.
gpm414 4 years ago
at 2.09 at 40mph and at 2750 rpm that thing is venting way too much. If ur dealership hasnt done nothing take it somewhere else. Ive had ones that do that excessively and end up splitting the shaft due to too much stress on thrust bearing. If you need a turbo for that i have a used one. from an 05
keffa11 4 years ago
ok so ICP sensor is on pass side valve cover?? just making sure coz some 03 were labeled o4 in early part. Have you taken it to a dealer? and what did they say??
keffa11 4 years ago
What year is that?? if its an 03 or 03 carry over then could be to do with inferred ebp calibration. The turbo venting like that, if not to do with calibration, is due to vanes binding and not being able to DC to desired position. Egr no dont think so, under heavy accel those vgt's will vent/surge and that is normal. yours isnt "popping" like that going along is either binding vanes or vgt solenoid. Again ford updated the solenoid to one that had a filter/screen on it.
keffa11 4 years ago
2004
gpm414 4 years ago
I really think ford should have stuck with the 7.3L powerstroke Turbo Diesel and just up-graded it. Those engines are bullet proof. I actually trust them so much that I buy my F-350's used with over 150,000 miles on them.
az3f4pq 4 years ago
I might be wrong or might be right but i've seen this before ford on the 6.0 same as dodge use an intercooler with plasic ends if you listen closely the turbo is working you can here the blow out valve releasing which means the turbo is pushing its boost pressure but its losing pressure somewhere else in the system more than likely a crack in the plastic ends on the intercooler its an identical problem my brother had but footnote long live the 7.3 shes never let me down 6.0 burn in hell.
emtff7959 4 years ago
The 6.0 doesn't have a by-pass valve to relieve excess boost. The turbo is a variable pitch vane design which is prone to corrosion...the vanes can stick and cause the noise you hear in the video. The only solution is to clean or replace the turbo. Early 6.0 liter owners are stuck, until Ford steps up with a recall or fix...I may not live that long.
gpm414 4 years ago
My 2004 6.0 has been in the shop for weeks at a time. It realy likes to blow the blue hotside intercooler hose off. It has had a new turbo, injectors worked on, EGR Valve replaced one time and cleaned one time. Fuel pump replaced, AC lines replaced, and they just put one more of those dang blue hoses on today, that would be number 4. Can not for get the new head gaskets and the transmition valve-body, that is all be for 60,000 miles. Mmmm..Dodges are looking very good.
Bran050 4 years ago
I would take a serious look at a Dodge if I had it to do again.
gpm414 4 years ago
We have a 2004 F-550 6.0 that sounded like your truck. It was the egr valve carboned up that caused it. Try unplugging the valve and see if that helps. The valve is on the top front of the engine next to the oil filter. Unplug the wire and if that's the problem it'll run like new.
catsfan1998 4 years ago
I as well had a similar problem with my 2003 f-350 dully, with the 6.0 in it. I bought it right when the new engine came out. I blame all the emissions crap they put on it because my 2000 f-350 with the 7.3 never gave me any problems. anyways ive taken it in a number of times and so far i havent had any problems.
blake19915 4 years ago
same thing happend to our 03 6.0 excursion. 3 turbos later and its running great for the last 160K miles.
Firebb15 4 years ago
You can avoid turbo trouble by simply letting the vehicle idle for 3 minutes before shutting it down. This action allows the turbo to cool down, and will prolong the life of your turbo.
GETRDUN 4 years ago
Yes you are right...cool down is an important thing to do with turo diesels, I've always done it since the truck was brand new. Must be another reason behind the problem in my truck.
gpm414 4 years ago
I had a similar problem with my truck. The reason was the intercooler tubes were loose. When they were tightened, I got all my power back.
mxrider774 4 years ago
On my 2003 6.0L I had my turbo go out too. If you are still having problems and there is a grinding type noise made and the truck kinda "lunges" it is your injectors, I had my injectors replaced after the turbo and it was fine.
My2008F450KingRanch 4 years ago
hello!! i would have to say not all ford turbos do that only, 2.5 percent. have problems and specially when you do dont warm enough your engine or wait for the turbo pressure to equalize after a long trip
raptorian700 4 years ago
So where do you get the 2.5 percent? Are you a Ford tech? The problem with the turbo in my truck has nothing to do with "not warming it up, or waiting for the pressure to equalize". I read that the 6.0 liter diesel has the highest warranty claims of any vehicle that Ford has built...claimed to be over 50 million dollars. With all the feedback from owners with problems, I really doubt that it's only 2.5%
gpm414 4 years ago
back out the intake, and that is the chuff chuff noise. My 7.3L does it also sometimes if I let off very quickly from wot. The condition you have, is not normal. Most trucks that have the problem with the vanes, are trucks that are typically not worked, idled alot, etc
mrfanman2u 4 years ago
There is another way the vanes can stick, open, and it will cause you to not build boost. The early trucks, did have a problem, and the VGT Technology was new, all VGT trubos have had the problem, and keep in mind, it's not a Ford Turbo, it's a Garrett Turbo, so Not Ford's Fault. Take Care Now:)
mrfanman2u 4 years ago
Ok, so Ford didn't build the turbo...but they put it on the truck they sold me. So do you think Ford should back the product they sold me? Didn't International build the 6.0 liter engine that Ford put in their Super Duty? From my view, Ford should step up with a solution other than replacing the turbo with the same faulty product.
gpm414 4 years ago
What you're experianceing (late at night cant spell, sorry) Is called Turbo Stall/Surge, and is caused by your vanes being stuck closed, and the turbo is over-boosting, and sending the excess boost
mrfanman2u 4 years ago
Hi my name is robert neufield and i am from Langley BC canada. You want my advise go with the BD Power Borg Warner S300 Turbocharger for the 6.0 Diesel. This New Turbocharger give top end power, quick, accurate response and so on can you tell me you email address please trust me this turbo is better than stock okay thanks great power
Getbent4561 4 years ago
The problem with the stock turbos seems to be they suffer from corrosion and carbon build up which causes the vanes to stick. Replacing the turbo helps, but for how long. Ford needs or someone needs to come up with a turbo that will last. I'll look into the BD unit.
gpm414 4 years ago
thats what mine sounds like when the motor is cold, but after it warms up it stops. hopefully you have fixed the problem, and hopefully you didnt take it to your ford dealership, if there is a big rid repair shop in town i would take it there unless the truck is still under warranty. hmmmm...a 04 with 22,000 miles on it, that should have been a big red light.
dipstick2008 4 years ago
Visit this website Ford Truck Enthusiast this is not a terrible thing you truck is doing and the sound is from the turbo. But you should have this fixed. Chuffa Chuffa Chuffa is what the diesel truck guys call this noise.
winask 4 years ago
You're right it is turbo problem. However I disagree that "its not a terrible thing". I never would have bought the truck if it did this on the test drive...would you? It's a problem many early 6.0 liter Ford diesels have. It's not normal or acceptable by any way.
gpm414 4 years ago