DNAunion 004: Radiometric Dating: Age of Earth, Solar System

[DouglasJBender]

I did not realize that you harbored such animosity to Christianity, or at least YEC.

[DouglasJBender]

Is this the "DNAunion" that used to post at the ARN forum?

[DNAunion]

@DouglasJBender

Yep, that would be me.

[gregrutz]

I see you have meet coolvideo28, one of the dumbist people on YouTube.

[DNAunion]

@warriorprince1010

Too bad. You post has been deleted. I let you post you lies several times, but you won't continue to post the same refuted bullshit over and over. That forces me to either reply each time you post it, or give the impression that I can't reply. Not going to happen here. Your post was deleted, as will all future posts of yours where you repeat the same lie.

[warriorprince1010]

The daughter isotope is ALWAYS present in newly formed rocks. NO radiometric dating is accepted scientifically.

[DNAunion]

@warriorprince1010

Isochrons do not rely upon there being no daughter isotope in the sample, dumbass. And desipte your vast ignorance or lying, lots of radiometric dating methods are accepted scientifically.

[warriorprince1010]

@DNAunion Isochrons DOES rely on there being no daughter isotope when the rock was formed, dumbass. NO radiometric dating is accepted by science. Only in the imaginations of evolutionists, like you.

[DNAunion]

@warriorprince1010

Stop lying, dumbfuck.

Isochron dating does not in any way rely upon there having been no daughter isotope in the sample when it was formed.  In fact, the isochron method - where the line crosses the Y axis - tells you the amount that was there!

[DNAunion]

@warriorprince1010

And stop lying by continually claiming that no radiometric dating is accepted by science. They are. Tons of them.

Are you just completely pig ignorant or a lowlife lying sac of shit? Which is it?

[nuggetwetyou]

hi,

im studying for a yearlie exam coming up next week and i am required to know what radio metric dating is and how it works?

i cant understand anything my teacher is saying, or what is procided online.

all i know is it is a form of measuring the age of rocks, measuring something aboout isotopes?

could you please explain to me what it all means?

[LetReasonPrevail1]

Here's a suggestion:

If you wish to have faith in a supernatural being, then do yourself a favor and admit that it is based upon faith.

The moment you try to support your belief with "evidence" you just end up making yourself look like an uneducated and desperate fool.

So why don't you go ahead and leave the science to the scientists and we will in turn leave the worshipping of "gods" to the faithful.

Deal?

[coolvideo28]

@LetReasonPrevail1

No Me and You know you believe in God. Its stupid and a lie for anyone to claim they dont believe in God. Everything you see is proof of God he Created everything. But yes you do also need faith to believe in God. You know how you pretend not to believe in God and have Faith in your Religion erol aka evolution

[coolvideo28]

@LetReasonPrevail1

Also Science is The Study of Gods Creation. So me studying science is studying Gods Creation. He tells us all about it in the Bible. If you decide you ever want a real education read the Bible. If your content with your brainwashing of evolution in school go right ahead, and when you die you can just explain to God how he doesnt exist while you are bowing down before him. You can also explain how there was no proof of him oh ya besides all of his Creation.

[LetReasonPrevail1]

coolvideo28, you said:

"Science is The Study of Gods Creation. So me studying science is studying Gods Creation"

Here is a quick logic lesson.  Your statement suffers from circular reasoning. Your conclusion that studying science is therefore the study of god's creation is based on the premise that "science is the study of god's creation". These are the same statements, so the 1st can not logically support the 2nd.

[LetReasonPrevail1]

The real work is proving that science is in fact the study of god's creation.

Simply stating this as fact without supplying any evidence to back it up is intellectually weak.

Young Jedi Master, this type of fallacious logic might work on the weak-minded, but I am not one of the "sheep" upon which you seek to impress!

So do you have any actual proof? & please don't say "just look around" as this is a meaningless statement that anyone can say to support ANY side of ANY argument

[LetReasonPrevail1]

FYI, I very much appreciate the opportunity to discuss these issues

If I know one thing it is that I don't know everything

It is from this humble position that I share my thoughts & ideas

I sincerely hope you continue to seek truth no matter what form it takes & no matter what conclusion it leads you to reach.

I only wish that in your pursuit of truth you do not already have the answer in hand such that your efforts are focused solely on supporting your pre-determined "truth"

[LetReasonPrevail1]

Dude, the "moon dust" argument supporting a young earth has been completely discredited for years now. The original argument was based on a greatly-flawed estimate of annual cosmic dust fall per ton made way back in 1959.

Even "Answers in Genesis" has officially told other creationists NOT to use this argument, because they know it makes you look grossly uninformed.

But I'm sure you are vastly more knowledgeable about "science" then all those pesky scientists.

I bow down to your genius

[coolvideo28]

@LetReasonPrevail1

You believe in Science and Iam sure you dont believe in anything that answeres in genesus says. Yet the only thing you bring me to prove my evidence of dust on the moon proving Creation, is somthing from answeres in Genesus well you claim it does anyhow. So how about you bring me some evidence of your aligations and from a source that you would actualy stand behind. The moon Proves Creation but you can stay in denial of it if you want.

[LetReasonPrevail1]

Coolvideo28, thanks for the response

I only referred to Answers in Genesis, because you referred to it first as your "evidence" of the moon dust theory's validity.

Please check out "Moon Dust and the Age of the Solar System" on the Answers in Genesis website and be sure to actually go to the END of the article to the conclusion and then read it.

You will see that you are incorrect.

No thanks required.

Cheers

[coolvideo28]

@LetReasonPrevail1

I apoligize if I seem harsh but I too was in your shoes searching for the Truth and wanting to see it for myself not believing anything off of just somones word. I was taught evolution in school but after studying I found out the Truth it is based on Faith and smoke and mirrors or Assumptions wich is not science, but they claim it is. I did not get the moon dust proof from answeres in genesis I never mentioned answeres in genesis exept to say I went there a couple times

[LetReasonPrevail1]

coolvideo28,

No worries. You didn't come off as harsh to me at all.

You seem very sincere, so please take this as constructive critisism and not as a put down, but you actually came across as ignorant of the facts and overly confident.

Unfortunately, it seems that the more uninformed someone is the more confident they project themselves to be.

This combination of ignorance & arrogance makes them look quite foolish, and I don't wish for anyone including youself to look foolish.

[LetReasonPrevail1]

It saddens me to hear you say the evolution is supported by smoke & mirrors. It is in fact on the most tested & validated theories ever proposed. Multiple disciplines of science independently validate the theory of evolution including Geology, Anthropology, Chemistry, Physics, Biology, Cosmology & Genetics. Over 250,000 peer-reviewed papers have been published, reviewed & validated all in support of evolution.

[LetReasonPrevail1]

The experts who support a young earth theory are guilty of the 1st error of scientific research. Namely, they start with the answer and then selectively look for evidence that supports that answer and ignore or worse yet lie about the overwhelming evidence that does not support their theory.

[LetReasonPrevail1]

In this regard, I think you are quite dangerous, because you actively promote this type of pseudo-epistemology. Such practices are a fraud with the pathetic goal of actually retarding the knowledge humankind has so arduously attained up to this point.

[LetReasonPrevail1]

I get the feeling that you and your brethren would actually like nothing more than for mankind to go back to a time when we thought diseases were caused by gods wrath or demonic possession (versus the actual cause - by microorganisms & genetic defects), back to when we thought earthquakes were caused by god (versus the actual cause - plate tectonics), back when god condoned the selling of daughters by their fathers into sexual slavery (Exodus 21:7 versus now when we know this is evil).

[coolvideo28]

@LetReasonPrevail1

What God says is right is right what God says is wrong is wrong. Man can make all kinds of laws and teach somthing is wrong or right but it doesnt matter what God says goes and we all including You is going to answere to him when we die. Its wiered that you bring up what Christians use to believe but not what evolutionists did and some still do. Did you know Darwin was a racist and he thought part of evolution was advancing away from blacks Cont. above

[itzahazylife]

@coolvideo28

well, the bible devalues human beings. it sells u the idea that u need god to be strong and be at peace..that u are helpless without god..so, instead of recognizing the strength inside yourself, u abandon yourself, and look to the strength of god..if only u and many like u could realize the nonsense in this..

[coolvideo28]

@itzahazylife The Bible shows us that God is our Father our Master our Creator all Powerful to ignore him like he doesnt exist pretending not to believe in him then trusting in ourselfs .... well I just dont see ignorance any worse then this (no offence)

[LetReasonPrevail1]

Unfortunately for you and your like-minded kind, the time for such ignorance, superstition and fear has thankfully passed.

Now your archaic & broken ideas are rightly marginalized & regulated to the fringes of common thought.

[LetReasonPrevail1]

coolvideio28:

I don't "believe" in science.

Science (or more to the point the scientific method) is merely a process of inquiry to gain further understanding into the natural world.

I "believe" in those things that can be supported with evidence and that are NOT contrary to logic and reason.

[coolvideo28]

@LetReasonPrevail1

I understand you are searching for the Truth. I was in your shoes for many years.The short of my life is that I lived a worldy life everything the world told me would make me happy I had it & I was still empty. For ex. any girl I wanted I had plenty of money good job, went around the world, partyed, clubed drank did drugs ect ect. But when I was alone I knew there had to be more. Until I gave my life to Christ then that emptynes was filled there is no othr way to fill it.

[LetReasonPrevail1]

coolvideo28, thanks for sharing your life experience.

I agree that a life spent seeking instant self-gratification is ultimately an empty one, and I'm glad to hear that you realized this. As with all people, we hope to mature out of our phase of self-centeredness and live a life that has more meaning.

Along those lines, you said that giving your life to Christ filled a void for you. How so?

Hope to hear back.

Cheers

[coolvideo28]

@LetReasonPrevail1 Many become rich have everything/anything they want, but are still empty they dont know why and they try to fill it with anything they can, but there still empty so many just commit suicide.

Many kids young adults search for the Truth & in school they lie and teach them there truth is the Truth the Bible is nonsence and you evolved you are an animal so they cant find the Truth so they act like the animal they were told they were and people wonder why kids get shot up.

[itzahazylife]

@coolvideo28

the fact remains this: your inner peace doesn't neccessarily mean what u believe in is truth. it just means that u believe it's truth..it's the strength of the belief that gives u peace, not what u are believing in..that same peace can be achieved by believing in the strength inside yourself, just as much as u believe in the strength of god..the question is, why don't u believe in yourself as strongly as god?..(cont..)

[coolvideo28]

@itzahazylife The fact that I have inner peace is great but I was talking about God fullfilling the emptynes we all have inside Nothing can fill this emptyness exept Jesus Christ trust me I tried for years with other things looking for the Truth. You willl see sooner or later when no matter how rich you get no matter how all your dreams come true you willl still be empty inside. This is why some very famous people commit sucide to the worlds standards they have everything but there empty

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

So you love Jesus and He fills your whole?

[itzahazylife]

@coolvideo28

there are 8 billion people on this earth..you're saying to me that every single person who isn't a christian feels empty inside?..like i said before..jesus wasn't some external force u tapped into..what u discovered is that u could believe in the doctrine establihsed around him. u could believe what the doctrine says about god always being there for u, and how u will live forever in heaven..(cont)

[coolvideo28]

@itzahazylife Yes everysingle person who does not have a relationship with Jesus Christ is empty. Jesus is much more then an eternal Force he is God He is the Designer the Creator of everything. he gives us all gifts and weaknesses so we will all work together

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

You cannot provide any good evidence that Jesus even existed, let alone that he was born of a virgin, walked on water, raised people from the dead, died for the sins of the world, was resurrected three days later, and ascended into heaven.

[coolvideo28]

@DNAunion There is more evidence that Jesus lived and died and was raised again then there is proof of you existing. There were thousands and thousands of eye witnesses of Jesus and him performing miracles. If you want proof go look at my favorited videos with the latest evidence on the shroud of turin. Also while you are there check out my other videos and your eyes will be opened to the truth that is if you watch with an open mind. Have a great day.

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

Wrong.

I am typing. That's valid, objective, positive evidence that I exist.

I have a video, where you can see me and hear me talk. More valid, objective, positive evidence that I exist.

There is NO valid, objective, positive evidence that Jesus existed. None at all. Maybe he existed, maybe he didn't; but you don't have the evidence to show that he actually did.

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

There were thousands of eyewitnesses to Appolonius of Tyana performing miracles too. Does that make it true? Of course not.

In fact, eyewitness testimony turns out to be one of the least reliable forms of evidence. Studies have shown how unreliable it is.

Indeed, eyewitness testimony has sentenced people to death that forensic science later exonerated.

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

Futher, what you have is not eyewitness testimony but mere hearsay. And it's probably not just second hand or third hand hearsay, but more like 20th hand hearsay. The first gospel written - by an unknown author who was much later claimed, without evidence, to have been Mark - was not written until some 35 to 40 years after Jesus allegedly died. The stories told in that gospel were multi-hand hearsay, nothing more.

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

You didn't provide any good evidence whatsoever. 20-th hand hearsay, written a couple thousand years ago by scientifically ignorant and vastly supersitious people, who are making claims comparable to what followers of Appolonius of Tyana did - who YOU refuse to accept as valid - and those claims being extraordinary with no extraordinary evidence to support them.

Only some type of mentally deficient person would accept the "Evidence" you provided.

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

The fantastical tales in the Bible have all the markings of legend and myth. God impregnating a human female; a virgin giving birth; a man walking on water and raising the dead; zombies marching on Jerusalem when he died; a character slain and then resurrected, and ascending to heaven.

The claims are extraordinary, & extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. But not only is there no extraordinary evidence for them, there is not even any good evidence. 

[coolvideo28]

@DNAunion Wow 4 replys to my 1 comment hu? U believe in God he made/Created U knowing he exists. The Bible is all facts history, Science & archeology prove it more true everyday. If U dont even believe eye witnesses then U have to ignore ALL history & say it didnt happen haha. U pretend not 2 believe in God U try so hard to stay in denial, but it never works U know Iam right. You could have taped anyone on a video & say its you No proof at all.

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

"U believe in God "

Nope, and you don't believe in God either.

Isn't fun telling other people what they believe!

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

Wrong, dumbshit.

1) The Genesis I Creation Myth is scientifically refuted at least 4 different ways.

2) The book of Daniel is historically refuted; he gets the order of rulers and lineages messed up, badly.

3) Archaeology disproves the Biblical Conquest of Canaan and the Biblical Exodus.

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

Wrong, dumbfuck. All history is not about extraordinary claims: God impregnating human women, who as virgins give birth to deities, who then do magic, are killed but resurrected, etc.

Are you REALLY as fucking stupid as you appear to be?

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

Ah, so you are so fucking stupid you don't know the difference between proof and evidence!

Great, keep showing everyone how pathetically retarded you are. LOL!!!!

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

Truth? Why do you brainwashed, braindead dullards always misuse words?

The Bible is ancient mythology, written by scientifically ignorant, vastly superstitious, grossly immoral men. Parts of it are scientifically refuted, others are refuted by history and archaeology; other parts are ridiculous, internally inconsistent, or totally immoral.

[coolvideo28]

@DNAunion God says whats moral and whats not You know your Creator. Mans made up and ever changing morals mean nothing.If you want to ignore your instructions on life in the Bible and the past and whats going to happen in the future and happily walk into hell until you get there thats your choice. I will pray you open your eyes before its to late bye the way if you dont give your life to Jesus before you die its to late only one knows when your life is done God. Could be tomarow could be 50years

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

So slavery is moral?

Beating slaves is moral?

Killing children for striking their parent is moral?

Killing men who are gay is moral?

Killing the innocent children of the enemies of Israel is moral?

Killing women who can't prove their virginity is moral?

Holding grandchildren guilty for the sins of their grandparents is moral?

Giving Satan the thumbs up to kill all 10 of Job's children for no reason is moral?

You are horribly immoral, as is your God.

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

God's morality is relative too, dumbass. His moral instructions depend upon time and culture.

What God said was okay to do at one point in time - own and beat slaves, for example - is now something He is allegedly against. Relative to time.

God said the that Israelites were allowed to treat their foregin slaves ruthlessly, but not so for the Isralite slaves. God's morals are relative to culture.

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

God's morality is also relative to gender. The Bible is horribly anti-female.

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

Right, because calling your God a fucking immoral monster and laughing in His imaginary face and telling Him to kiss my ass and suck my cock has absolutely no bearing on when I will die. Because your God is just pretend.

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

You are blathering pointlessly. That has nothing to do with radiometric dating. Which, contrary to your repeated lies, are accepted by scientists - around the world - as valid science, and show the earth, moon, and meteorites to be about 4.5 billion years old.

[coolvideo28]

@DNAunion The only thing that will fill that emptyness inside is JESUS Christ

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

Any more preaching posts by you will be deleted.

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

Yep, I told you that I would delete any more preaching posts by you, and I did.

[DNAunion]

@coolvideo28

I have a hole that Jesus can fill! LOL!!!!

[coolvideo28]

@LetReasonPrevail1

Everyone on earth has a void an emptyness inside all try to fill it with somthing. Want to know what yours is find out what you spend the most of your time doing thinking about . It becomes an obsession it can be anything from a woman/person, cars, Drugs, alchohol, fishing, any sport, Anything. Jesus filled that emptyness inside Me is the only thing that can fill that emptyness in You in everyone.

[itzahazylife]

@coolvideo28

that void is filled because what you're using to fill that void isn't much like anything else on earth..it's a belief that when u die, u will live in the greatness of heaven for eternity. u believe that an all powerful being loves u, and is guiding u thru life. such a belief is sure to fill a void that nothing else on earth could comparatively fill..(cont..)

[coolvideo28]

@itzahazylife Just because you have somthing different doesnt mean it will fill you You cant fill hunger with a new spaceship. In order to fill that emptyness you need the one thing that will acomplish that need Jesus Christ. If I dint know God If I didnt know God was real I would try to see your point of view and say could he be right but It would be like me telling you your family member or friend of many years doesnt exist.

[coolvideo28]

@LetReasonPrevail1

You said

"I "believe" in those things that can be supported with evidence and that are NOT contrary to logic and reason. " What is logical?

If you were stranded on a island from birth and just lived off of what you could find. Then you came to modern day country with cars,trains, planes would that be logical to you? If you were still on the island and You didnt see any of the above stuff and somone just told you about it would you believe it would it be logical to you?

[LetReasonPrevail1]

In my opinion, the existence of "god" (or any gods for that matter) is not supported by evidence. Further, theistic religion with a personal god who intervenes in our lives is contrary to logic & reason.

I am happy to supply you with examples of each.

[coolvideo28]

@LetReasonPrevail1

I understand were your coming from many people try to use the evidence system to prove what is true, but ask yourself this what in this world can be proven 100% bearly anything even if you saw it happen and taped it couldnt you be lying couldnt you have edited the video? In science Nothing and I repeat Nothing not 1 thing can be 100% proven a fact. Shure we can test it and come to the conclusion it must be true but somone can always come along w more info and prove it wrong

[coolvideo28]

All Scientific dating methods are all based on the ASSUMPTION that the earth has stayed the same or Constant. If it didnt all dating systems are wrong, And we know the earth wasnt always the same the flood ect, but even science claims asteroids hit the earth and ice ages so All dating techniques used by evolution are completly wrong, So there is no millions or billions of years so evolution couldnt have hapened and is a scam. Check mate

[Phyerbyrd]

Hello asshole! still peddling what one schoolteacher said? The dating techniques have NEVER required that. The food is physically impossible. Radiometric dating requires that isotopes decay at a constant rate, which they do. You're saying the same bullshit over and over again. There is no assumption, no need for no change, just consistent isotopes.

[coolvideo28]

Phyerbyrd

Yes I repeat the Truth so people can see the Truth instead of falling for evolution fairytale lies

Please Read the Bible and you will get a real education

[Phyerbyrd]

It's not the truth, radiometric dating relies on nuclear, not geographic, constants. so, basically you're saying a non sequitur falsehood over and over again. I will say it again, GEOGRAPHIC CONSTANTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RADIOMETRIC DATING! Did you get that? If not, please explain why they would. DON'T JUST IGNORE IT AND SAY IT AGAIN!

[coolvideo28]

I will explain this very simple ok. Radiometric dating like all dating methods is effected by water such as the Global flood or as science teaches many ice ages. guess what ice is?

I will send you a video explaining it.

[Phyerbyrd]

It isn't affected by water! Water can't seep though solid zircon, and it certainly can't do it when it's buried under several meters of solid rock! Ice would have even less effect due to it NOT ENTERING THE MATRIX OF THE ROCK! How is tree ring cross referencing affected by water? Not only that, we've dated rocks from the moon, that's how we got the four billion figure, no water there!

[coolvideo28]

whatch the video I sent you and guess what turned into ice for ice age WATER yep. Tree rings are effected by floods too. I already explained how the moon is proof of Creation. And there is No credible evolutionary dating technique to date anything Period. Its all based on assumptiomns and assumptions are not Science. evolution failed before the fairytale was ever writen

[Phyerbyrd]

I watched it, i'd already seen it, it was wrong. Tree rings grow annually, the only thing a flood would do is make the ring thicker. How is the moon proof of creation? The actual influx of dust is a fraction of the obsolete study. Instead of being in the billions, its 840 tons The guy in the video was lying through his teeth. An assumption can be scientific in some situations, such as when prior experience tells you something.

[coolvideo28]

This is Great you said

"An assumption can be scientific in some situations"

Nope this is why so many fall for this garbage you are using Faith to believe in false Science.

ASSUMING is not Science Ever.

What are you mumbling about the dust? That proves the earth is thousands of years old proving Creation.

He didnt say 1 lie at all you just Refuse to hear the Truth. I have had many evolution believing people watch and admit he is right but they just say that doesnt mean evolution is wrong

[Phyerbyrd]

Assumption is not belief, assumption is inductive reasoning, look it up. the amount of dust over that huge moon would take billions of years to cover. You said that water can remove isotopes from rock, this is simply not true of the samples used. Erosion is visible when it happens, and the samples are not dated. You can tell when a rock has been tampered with. There is no possible way to increase nuclear decay. The ways he said in the video do nothing. That's why he lied. NOTHING INCREASES IT!

[coolvideo28]

Wow Do you even believe the nonsence you are saying the dust lands on the moon and is not disturbed we know how much dust falls and how long it takes to accumilate therefore we know by the moons dust the moon and solar system is approx 600 years old as shown in the Bible threw the geneology. You obviously no next to nothing about science you are boring me your babbling on about stuff you obviously have no clue about is getting old

[Phyerbyrd]

It accumulates 840 tons a year, and considering the surface area of the moon the addition would be miniscule. I know more about science than you!

[coolvideo28]

I was going to say you have made it painfuly obvious you are not that knowledgable about science, but I just checked your profile and realized your 15 so you havent had all that much time to study and none at a college level. Well all I can tell you is search for the truth on your own dont fall for lies like evolution. If you search for the truth you will find it. I will pray for you.

[Phyerbyrd]

And yet I still know more about nuclear physics than you. Where has it been tested anywhere that cosmic rays and free neutrinos increase decay rates? The only lie here is the bible, an ancient, fallacious, moral-less book. Can you explain how nuclear decay actually happens? I'm going to see how your "theories" stand up against a test.

[DNAunion]

You are using inferior arguments even for a Creationist! LOL

The Creationist site Answers In Genesis says that the moon-dust argument is an argument that should not be used any more.

[itzahazylife]

@coolvideo28

..it's the comforts that come along with such a belief..all u have to do is believe in it as strongly as possible, and you'll feel like the world is off your shoulders and that u have an afterlife in heaven awaiting u..if that wouldn't bring peace of mind to someone, what will?..but, in the end it's just the belief in the god and all that comes with it, not the god you're believing in. it's the comfort of the belief, not god giving u comfort..

[coolvideo28]

@itzahazylife I understand how you think you are trying to logicaly explain what I have but I have it and I know what I have Iam Commplete Iam filled God Jesus Christ is the only thing that will fill that emptyness we all have inside, trust me I have tried all kinds of other things. I had what the world said would make me happy Money Girls traveling the world drugs alcohol you name it but I was still empty. I always searched for the Truth but the emptynes remained until I found JESUS CHRIST

[herbiethebarber]

Keep in mind there are 40, 40! independently verifiable radiometric dating techniques, those along with, plate tectonics, ice cores, varves, dendrochronology, and MANY others ALL show us that the earth is very old indeed.

[accemekun]

Do you people actually expect anyone to trust the scientific community in this age when science is openly used as a propaganda tool to push a leftist, collectivist ideology?

[KDoc21]

ha!

[tulp007]

my friend says the earth is only 6000 years old! crazy isn't he!

[Jaakko2007]

Yea, his probably a creatonist, crazy people...

[zulmia]

An excellent video, with a very good collection of evidence. However to convince the YECs (I like to pronounce it yecks), this video is doomed to fail. They have the "virtue" of faith. But, we can all hope this video will reach one of their numbers that is more empirically minded.

[ukidding]

Andrei Khalip in Rio De Janeiro

October 17, 2007

PALEONTOLOGISTS have discovered the largely complete fossil of a new species of giant dinosaur that roamed northern Patagonia 80 million years ago.

The herbivorous futalognkosaurus dukei measured up to 34 metres from head to tail and was as tall as a four-storey building. It is one of the three biggest dinosaurs found.

[nova2002]

Dont you see, it wasnt God you planted the false evidence, it was obviously Satan. ;)

Of course what your saying is right and to every Person who's in their right mind will see this facts and accept that the Universe is billions of years old, but the young earth creationist lunatics will always find a way to talk all this away with unproofable asumptions from their crazy worldview.

[eepwwtppwe]

pretty good, but remember, its not ºkelvin, its just kelvins

[DNAunion]

I guess you missed my using my fingers to indicate "degrees" kelvin?

[Jamesbowman777]

You did not explain how any of your claims prove the billions of years you simply state repeatedly that they do, should we just believe you on faith. Could you demonstrate how? As far as the radio isotpe ideas they are based on unprovable assumptions. How could you possible know the amount of initial daughter elements and why should we assume it to be zero, how do we know the decay rates are constant when we have observed them 1/1000 of 1% of their presumed existence. Thanks Jim

[vinny142]

We know the amount of daughter material because of the way the rock forms. For example in lava it is known that certain parent meterials get locked in when it solidifies, but the daughter of that material does not. Therefore the newly formed lava has zero daugter material.

[DNAunion]

With isochron methods, the initial amount of dauther nuclei is not needed, and they aren't assumed to be 0.

[plopilor]

Good point buddy!

[RaggedM88]

@Jamesbowman777 go to talkorigins and read about Isochron Dating



[ukidding]

ok by me

[Gravitationalist]

Good vid. Looking forward to more.