Yes, Jesus teaches us how to Pray yes, Matthew 7 7. This universe don't want to Remember what Jesus teaching. Some vhristian the listen & flollow teachings of Jesus. What you say is okaye. Sue
He may be a teacher of 'contemplation' - but Jesus doesn't emphasise the quality of silence in prayer (2.22) anywhere in the gospels (synoptic or apocryphal). He may imply it - but in typical engimatic fashion he never even uses the word. Jesus is silence neutral - and he does not devalue words - indeed, they are the cypher for what 'lies within' - 'what comes out of a man'. Contemplation is NOT the same as Meditation. And some forms of meditation don't involve silence.
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mindfulness meditation is not the classic Christian way to experience God-prayer and doing everything as if for God is-we consider the lilies of the field not for their beauty per se-which is obvious and requires no special practice other than looking- but as an example that even as God clothes them with a greater beauty than the hands of man can manufacture how can we doubt that He will give us- whom He created out of love to worship him- even more-we direct our attention to God not the world
@scottk276 This is NOT minduflness meditation. Nor is the beauty of 'the lilies of the field' obvious. Vast numbers (a majority) go about oblivious to them and it does indeed require a special practise -the practise of 'noticing them' or 'paying attention' -itself a divine gift -and a form of prayer - the beginnings of Contemplation. Do not imagine you can bypass this stage nor split off some 'imagined' God from his wondrous creation. For that is Gnosticism and leads to 'fantasy eschatology'
@Cloisterite you're right-this isn't mindfulness meditation-it's basic tm-as far as the neoplatonist practice of contemplation it doesn't appear to be biblical either-not that i think either is evil but they aren't specifically christian-and God is not "imagined"- God is real-apart from his creation-if we insist on tying our awareness of God to the beauty of his creation we risk pantheism-the beauty of the world is transient-God is eternal-love God above all else and your neighbor as yourself.
@scottk276 We're getting muddled between contemplation, meditation.and mantra meditation. Contemplation in Christian practise goes back to first centuries and to Jesus. Contemplation of created order isn't 'Pantheism but Panentheism (recognising divine Immanence IN creation. -not identified with it). Nothing unchristian about that. You don't have to tie God to created order (how could you) -but contemplate God through it.That's where we are - we arn't disembodied spirits but embedded in matter.,
@scottk276 Your so right about neo platonic connection. But ironically this encourages escape from 'shadowy realm' of created order (by demiurge) thus renforcing Christianities distrust of it and dualistic 'splitting off of God from Creation - and 'beauty of world is transient' approach. Neo platonic Contemplation is thus 'philosophical and aspirational' and not embracing of matter.
Although this is mantra meditation - there are important dstinctions with TM (which are not stressed enough).
@scottk276 My point about imagined God was precisely to stress the DANGERS of 'magining' Him/Her and the mess this has landed us in (within Christianity). God is NOT just real apart from his/her creation (ie only transcendant) - but also real WITHIN it (Immanent) too - that's what Incarnation is about!). The reverse is to embrace the Neo platonic view - or worse a Gnostic one. It is then that we start 'imagining' God and worse 'imagining' what we might do to each other in his/her name !!
@scottk276 Incidentally one of the goals of this form of disciplined Christian meditation (prayer) is to counter this 'imagination' that has so led Christianity up the garden path - and to extirpate 'fantasy theology' (which leads to the very real denigration of matter - including human beings!). It is a noble goal.
Thank god, i found this. I felt this way for a long time. Now I can think clearly. Yes meditation is the key to the coming of Jesus. "His second coming"
The problem is the different meanings of the word meditation. For some traditionalists the word rings alarm bells. for them I suggest replace the term with contemplative prayer. This has an unbroken history right back to the desert fathers. Just ask a religious!
Amazing. We as Christians are generally so confused about what meditation is. Father Freeman has described the practice of Meditation beautifully and simply and I encourage you to not ignore the call to this most beautiful practice.
Yes, Jesus teaches us how to Pray yes, Matthew 7 7. This universe don't want to Remember what Jesus teaching. Some vhristian the listen & flollow teachings of Jesus. What you say is okaye. Sue
xiangxiz 1 month ago
He may be a teacher of 'contemplation' - but Jesus doesn't emphasise the quality of silence in prayer (2.22) anywhere in the gospels (synoptic or apocryphal). He may imply it - but in typical engimatic fashion he never even uses the word. Jesus is silence neutral - and he does not devalue words - indeed, they are the cypher for what 'lies within' - 'what comes out of a man'. Contemplation is NOT the same as Meditation. And some forms of meditation don't involve silence.
Cloisterite 3 months ago
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LomaDockery867 7 months ago
mindfulness meditation is not the classic Christian way to experience God-prayer and doing everything as if for God is-we consider the lilies of the field not for their beauty per se-which is obvious and requires no special practice other than looking- but as an example that even as God clothes them with a greater beauty than the hands of man can manufacture how can we doubt that He will give us- whom He created out of love to worship him- even more-we direct our attention to God not the world
scottk276 9 months ago
@scottk276 This is NOT minduflness meditation. Nor is the beauty of 'the lilies of the field' obvious. Vast numbers (a majority) go about oblivious to them and it does indeed require a special practise -the practise of 'noticing them' or 'paying attention' -itself a divine gift -and a form of prayer - the beginnings of Contemplation. Do not imagine you can bypass this stage nor split off some 'imagined' God from his wondrous creation. For that is Gnosticism and leads to 'fantasy eschatology'
Cloisterite 3 months ago
@Cloisterite you're right-this isn't mindfulness meditation-it's basic tm-as far as the neoplatonist practice of contemplation it doesn't appear to be biblical either-not that i think either is evil but they aren't specifically christian-and God is not "imagined"- God is real-apart from his creation-if we insist on tying our awareness of God to the beauty of his creation we risk pantheism-the beauty of the world is transient-God is eternal-love God above all else and your neighbor as yourself.
scottk276 3 months ago
@scottk276 We're getting muddled between contemplation, meditation.and mantra meditation. Contemplation in Christian practise goes back to first centuries and to Jesus. Contemplation of created order isn't 'Pantheism but Panentheism (recognising divine Immanence IN creation. -not identified with it). Nothing unchristian about that. You don't have to tie God to created order (how could you) -but contemplate God through it.That's where we are - we arn't disembodied spirits but embedded in matter.,
Cloisterite 3 months ago
@scottk276 Your so right about neo platonic connection. But ironically this encourages escape from 'shadowy realm' of created order (by demiurge) thus renforcing Christianities distrust of it and dualistic 'splitting off of God from Creation - and 'beauty of world is transient' approach. Neo platonic Contemplation is thus 'philosophical and aspirational' and not embracing of matter.
Although this is mantra meditation - there are important dstinctions with TM (which are not stressed enough).
Cloisterite 3 months ago
@scottk276 My point about imagined God was precisely to stress the DANGERS of 'magining' Him/Her and the mess this has landed us in (within Christianity). God is NOT just real apart from his/her creation (ie only transcendant) - but also real WITHIN it (Immanent) too - that's what Incarnation is about!). The reverse is to embrace the Neo platonic view - or worse a Gnostic one. It is then that we start 'imagining' God and worse 'imagining' what we might do to each other in his/her name !!
Cloisterite 3 months ago
@scottk276 Incidentally one of the goals of this form of disciplined Christian meditation (prayer) is to counter this 'imagination' that has so led Christianity up the garden path - and to extirpate 'fantasy theology' (which leads to the very real denigration of matter - including human beings!). It is a noble goal.
Cloisterite 3 months ago
Thank god, i found this. I felt this way for a long time. Now I can think clearly. Yes meditation is the key to the coming of Jesus. "His second coming"
hdavy2002 2 years ago
Thank you father.
mansiepansie 2 years ago
Thank you sincerely
RusBlassoples 2 years ago
The problem is the different meanings of the word meditation. For some traditionalists the word rings alarm bells. for them I suggest replace the term with contemplative prayer. This has an unbroken history right back to the desert fathers. Just ask a religious!
MrMantra50 2 years ago
Jesus is The Map - A finger that points to the Power called Love!
SelflessWill 2 years ago 2
Amazing. We as Christians are generally so confused about what meditation is. Father Freeman has described the practice of Meditation beautifully and simply and I encourage you to not ignore the call to this most beautiful practice.
kendaph99 2 years ago 5
thanks
thx891 2 years ago
The oldest Christian prayer was the one that Christ taughts us,
the Our Father!
HolyCatholicApostoli 3 years ago