How in the hell could Connely been in JFK's "way"? They said that had Connely not turned JFK would have been hit 3 times! Connely sat in front of JFK and in order for Connely to have been blocking a bullet that bullet must be coming from the FRONT!
@zwebster97 Yes, absolutely! why hasn't this been brought to light. Hoover, the chief law enforcment officer of the most powerful nation, giving his report to the President, said, unequivicallyal, that Connely blocked bullet no. 2 which would have hit Kennedy but for hitting Connley - who was in the front seat. Oswald was shooting from the rear. The only conclusion is Hoover was saying that shots were coming from the front of the car!!!
Am I hearing Mr. Hoover correctly? He says that two bullets hit the president and they were fragmented. He says 1 hit the Governor. First and third hit Kennedy and the 3rd fell out of his head intact???? I thought both bullets that hit Kennedy were in fragments (as he first said)??? He contradicted himself???
He ordered the murders of us servicemen with the help of israel
youtube USS Liberty - these sailors are still seeking justice for being stabbed in the back by Johnson - they are still being ignored.
Lyndon B Johnson got the Israeli military to attack a US Naval vessel, to use it as a pretext to go to war with Egypt and blame it on them, it was a false flag
Johnson killed American Servicemen. Go research, it's all true.
Remember, Oswald was already dead & buried & proclaimed by government to be the only assassin.
LBJ: "Were THEY aiming at the President"?
Hoover: "THEY were aiming directly at the President"!
LBJ: "How did it happen that THEY hit Connally"?
Remember being told the magic bullet that fell out of Connally's leg onto the hospital gurney? On this audio, before the public story version that was given out, Hoover tells LBJ that it came from JFKs head.
@arther1046 please listen to 9:45 to 10:06 where the pronoun "they" is clarified. Hoover told Johnson that Connely turned and got hit with bullet no. 2 which blocked it from the President, otherwise Kennedy would have been hit. Since Connely was in the front seat, then Hoover is saying that the bullet came from the front...Oswald was in the rear.
LBJ & "Homo" Hoover know they are recording. LBJ calls cover-up artist "Homo" Hoover; because National suspicions & Charles DeGaul before an International audience said; that per his experts, the assassination was a coup d'etat ("Homo" Hoover and LBJ killing JFK to take over the Presidency.) Remember, "Homo" Hoover did the cover-up, oops, 'investigation' for the "Warren Commission Report". For TRUE Facts, view: "Greatest Video Ever" murder of JFK, MLK, Etc. at: youtube.com/watch?v=RJR3azgge_Y
the only way that Connelly could have been in the way of a shot to JFK would be if the shot came from the front. is hoover misspeaking or did he know that Connelly was hit from the front.
@cunnidvd Are you just kidding or really stupid? How many time did you hear "THEY" when referring to the assassins? Does anyone address you with a plural pronoun? If you talk about Oswald or a single friend, do you say "he" or "THEY"?
How many times does Hoover and LBJ have to say "THEY" before you know Hoover and LBJ are not misspeaking?
The JFK assassination is now directly linked to the MLK assassination. During the hunt for the car driven by the "alleged" killer of King, a piece of paper with the name Raoul and a phone number were on it. The FBI agent who discovered it did not tell about it or give it to his supervisor. Instead, he checked it out himself.
The phone number was tracked to a building in Dallas TX. The same building where the Carousel Club was located. The Carousel Club operated by Jack Ruby.
John McCloy had no authority whatsoever over the selection of Allied bombing targets in Germany. Those decisions were made by the president, the chair of the joint chiefs, and the commanders of the XIII U.S. Army Air Force.
@drbuckley1 Asshole - McCloy had the input. Now, go wash your moms rented dildo before she come home from her downtown night job and smells your stinky on it. And don't forget to replace the batteries.
@drbuckley1 Asshole - the video called "The 38 Auto Shells" proves Oswald did not kill the dirty cop. Everyone is starting to realize it was David Morales, CIA assassin, who murdered Tippit with his 38 auto pistol.
The movie theater person Butch Burroughs is on another video saying Oswald was there between 1:00 and 1:07. That make it impossible to be near Tippit. Of course, you already know about the Burroughs video. That is why you have the name Asshole.
Allen Dulles-former hitler supporter & cia director, fired by JFK for the bay of pigs.Dulled visited LBJ at is texas ranch 2 weeks before the JFK murder.
John McCloy-former hitler supporter,sat next to hitler at the 1936 Olympics.As assisant secretary of war during WW2, McCloy refused to allow allied bombing of railroads leading to concentration camps.
There was no "magic bullet." The third bullet struck bones obliquely, not directly. The stretcher bullet was not "pristine" but significantly deformed by the impacts. Given the trajectory from the Sixth Floor and the seating arrangement in the
limousine, the governor could not avoid being hit by the same bullet than entered the president's back. Case closed.
Why is it not possible to make a new ballistic investigation about the bullets? The police in USA "open" and reinvestigate many so called 'cold cases'.Isn't it time to do it with this case? How can one (1) bullet pass so much bones and flesh without beeing destroyed?
@petereuropa The only thing strange is anyone would believe the government lies. Of course, that tells you how stupid people are on this planet. These fools deserve the police state they are getting now. Fuck em. Rip the idiots off.
@oIdmac1 A student at the university who have been study to be a forensic detective for only the 1st year, could easyily decide if the bullet was the so called REAL "magic bullet". For an independent group of forensic specialists, this must be the most easy case to judge for them, or?
Government experts say that magic bullets happen every day. Independent experts say it's a lie and the conspiracy happened. Your choice. Use your own common sense...if you have any.
@oIdmac1 Soon I don't care anymore. I have written so much questions here. Some of my questions might have been crap. Some may have been interesting. For the moment I take "time out" from this case. But I leave one question: if you have heared that your neighbor had said to you: "Hey, Ruth (Paine), I know that they want to hire where I work. I am at the TSBD, you know that, don't you?" "Is not Lee (HO) searching for a job? I might help him""Come tomorrow evening when I have returned from work."
...and on federal bases FBI has stopt so many serial killers and bad people. The FBI organisation makes a lot of good on American federal bases. That's for sure.
@cdddraftman Salute who? I have seen many TV-program when FBI have captured many dangerous killers and bad guys. For example the TV-program: The FBI Files. So you American people have a lot to thank FBI to keep the streets clean. And then you have Harry Callahan of course.
Now FBI is on the right track. When FBI captured that man that again wanted to make an airoplane to destroy an American important building (september 2011).
The 3rd bullet JFK head shot was in & out. So how the fuck can it fall out of the head at the hospital? And it was splintered (fragmented)? Which frag piece fell out? This is bullshit. It fell out when they massaged JFK's heart?
Wait a fuckin minute. I remember the story was the stretcher bullet, the magic bullet, fell out of Connally's leg. OK OK. Ol' Gay Boy is telling LBJ the "1st draft" cover story, before the final public consumption story.
"if Connolly hadn't got in his way then he'd have been hit three times"
How could Connolly have gotten in the presidents way since Connolly was in the front seat and the shots were supposed to have been fired from behind in the depository?
So Hoover admits Connally got in the way of the bullet. That couldnt have happened with a shot from behind. It all adds up to there being a shooter that is now memorialized in the "Red Lady's" picture, wearing a police officer's uniform and the muzzle flash of the rifle going off the instant she snapped the picture (Or was it a still from a movie? I dont remember). Yet JEH sounds so honest when talking about it being only one man.
“How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think". ---Adolf Hitler
Everyone stop cursing Hitler. He did not do anything your current leaders are not doing to set up the United Police States of America. Hitler was voted into power by a democratic government.
Curse yourself for enabling these animals, voting for the republicrats, time and again.
Fucking Hoover says the shooter was on the 5th floor. I guess Hoover later decided the view was better for him to be on the 6th floor. Less tree limbs to shoot through. LOL.
I suppose he could've used "they" to refer to one person in place of 'he'. Like "there was one shooter and they were standing here". But that thing about if Connoly hadn't moved sort of implies he thinks the shooter was in front.
@ritalinSolution Nobody uses the plural word "they' when referring to one person. That nonsense is never taught in any schools for English language. Except for you. Obviously, you get an F grade.
Yes, there was at least one frontal assassin. The relationship between Ruby & Oswald was ignored by Miss Mary Hoover (I saw the pic of him in some drag - earrings and woman's hair bun). The women at Ruby's club and other entertainers and Ruby associates said Oswald and Ruby knew each other.
@amazonman54 Hoover is telling LBJ his contrived evidence story to convict Oswald. Listen for the part about the bullet falling out of JFKs head onto the hospital stretcher. Remember? We were told it was the Connally bullet that fell out in the hospital. A magic bullet indeed! It can fall out of 2 guys at the same time. LOL. 2 lying vermin assholes.
@FuzzyHedz Take the Hunt "confession" as a "limited hangout." It's truths and lies mixed together, but not the definitive account. There are still people alive today who were involved in the "big event" that Hunt never mentioned, and thereby protected. Hunt was a spook til the end.
THIS IS PROOF OF A CONSPIRACY. JOHNSONS CLEARLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE INVESTIGATIONS OF THE ASSASSINATION AND HE IS TALKING ABOUT ASSIGNING SOMEONE HE KNOWS TO THE SENATE INVESTIGATION COMMITEE.
I dont see any conspiracy here, they didnt have all the information at the time in fact the first bullet missed completely and both JFK and Connelly were hit by the second, the third was of course the fatal head shot of JFK. Its impressive that they were able to piece what happened together so quickly and fairly accurately given the technology of the day.
@fangorabbc And they go on saying "they." Johnson: "Were THEY aiming at the president?" Hoover: "THEY were aiming directly at the president." Johnson: "How did it happen that THEY hit Connolly?"
@rumrunner777 This tape has more gems. Remember the bullet that fell out of Connally's leg onto the hospital gurney? On this audio, before the public story version that was given out, Hoover tells LBJ that it came from JFKs head.
And something else. He says the head bullet was splintered (meaning it was in pieces), but could still be identified coming from the MC rifle. Then he says it was a whole bullet falling out in the hospital. LOL. That bullet really was more magical.
@Tonyo1221 President Johnson barely knew any facts at the time of the conversation. The Warren Commission was the most thorough investigation in U.S. history at the time. The Commission's report has never been debunked and its broad conclusions--Oswald was the only shooter and acted alone--have never been disproved.
@drbuckley1 The Warren comission has been debunked in several quarters and also remember the last official US government comment on this assassination was in 1979, from the US justice department . It stated through the assassinations review board that there was a "probable" conspiracy.
@Tonyo1221 Who has debunked the report, in what quarters and on which points? Please direct me to the 1979 report that stated there was a "probable" conspiracy. Are you refering to the 1976 House Select Committee Report?
LHO fled the scene of the crime, killed a police officer, resisted arrest, and lied to detectives. This does not sound the behavior of an innocent person to me.
@drbuckley1 If you dont know who has debunked Warren and why, your very sheltered. Please type : tmwkk the guilty men - into youtubes search box and watch the full version video. Then plaese come back to me and tell me what your honest opinion is.
@drbuckley1 No, he alone didnt kill him . But he knew who else was involved. He knew of the conspiracy, he knew who was behind it, he was aware of it and why.
@Tonyo1221 Evidence, please. And by the way, YouTube videos are not evidence of anything. I'm still waiting to hear about that "1979 government conspiracy" document.
@drbuckley1 youtube videos are evidence of everything. Just because you say they are not means nothing. The video called "The 38 Auto Shells" proves Oswald did not kill Tippit. The DPD was carrying 38 Special guns in 1963; same as you claim Oswald had. But Tippit was shot with a 38 Auto. Revolver bullets and Auto bullets do not fire from the same gun.
@arther1046 Are you claiming that .38 revolvers and .38 semi-automatics use different bullets? Do you know anything at all about guns? Are you for real?
@drbuckley1 Asshole - were you smart enough to look at the recommended video "The 38 Auto Shells" before making your stupid comment? No...of course not.
@drbuckley1 Asshole - were you smart enough to look at the recommended video "The 38 Auto Shells" before making your stupid comment? No, of course not.
@drbuckley1 Do YOU know anything about guns? Apparently not.
.38 special was and remains a ubiquitous handgun caliber that is the most common chambering for revolvers.
.38 auto is a rare caliber a few turn of the century colt semi-auto pistols were chambered in and is no longer produced. They are not the same bullets or cartridges, and they are not interchangeable.
@RWT683 When Oswald was arrested, he had in his possession a Smith & Wesson 38 Special caliber revolver, serial number V510210. Four cartridge cases were found in the shrubbery on the corner of 10th and Patton by three eyewitnesses. It was the unanimous and unequivocal testimony of expert witnesses before the Commission that these used cartridge cases were fired from the revolver in Oswald's possession to the exclusion of all other weapon.
@drbuckley1 You are changing the subject. I was speaking purely to your claim .38 revolvers and .38 semi-autos use the same bullets (or cartridges, if you know the difference which I doubt) which is manifestly NOT the case. In fact, anybody with real knowledge of handguns knows this, and by illustrating your ignorance on this subject you lend zero credibility to yourself and tend to discredit whatever claim you are debating about Oswald which I am not involved in.
@RWT683 Thanks for the education. I am perfectly willing to change my mind when given evidence. Now, let's see if others on this list are as equally open to facts.
A mistake at the scene by an officer does not refute the fact that the empty casings retrieved at the site were fired from Oswald's revolver. Eyewittnesses are occasionally unliable; hard evidence is typically reliable.
@drbuckley1 OK, but evidence can be planted or faked if there was an FBI cover-up. But if there are a large number of discrepancies in the official story (as there are, but physical and eye-witness), it tends to raise doubt whether what they would have us believe is correct.
In this case, the confusion of an experienced police officer over the difference between .38 spl and .38 auto casings is not believable.
They planted the shells so they would match Oswald's gun.
@RWT683 I very much doubt that evidence was planted. More likely the officer made a simple mistake, not that suprising given the stress that permeated all of Dallas that day. Officers in the TSBD originally identified the murder weapon as a "Mauser," which of course it was not.
When you write "they planted" evidence, you really ought to identify who "they" are. The name of the killer was LHO; if you can provide a different name, we would all appreciate it.
@drbuckley1 No...I don't have to provide you with all the answers in order for my (and many others') criticism to be valid. I do not have all the answers...I am just saying the answers we have been given do not add up. In the USA man is innocent until proven guilty. The "evidence" against Oswald would never have convicted him with a good defense before an impartial jury (if such could have been found). That is why he was killed before he could be tried.
@RWT683 drbuckley1 is not a doctor at all. Just anther lying ass shill.
The cop was shot with a .38 Auto. They say Oswald shot him with a .38 Special revolver. The DPD carried .38 Specials in 1963. Think they can mis-ID they own shit they use every day of their police lives?
Look at the video: The .38 Auto Shells
All bullets are stamped on the bottom what they are. No possible mis-ID. The cops got it right, and then were told to change their words. Every cop knew: change or die.
But some people don't have the balls to accept the kind of world we live in. They think good always defeats evil and every story has a happy ending. These are the people who have watched too many movies...not the "conspiracy theorists" but the coincidence theorists, the people who deny that bad people get together to do bad things because they won't face facts that we are not ruled by saints.
LHO released the cylinder, ejected the spent cartridges, and tossed them into shrubbery after shooting Officer Tippit on Tenth Street. This was witnessed by Barbara Davis at approximately 1:12 p.m. She later shows detectives the location of the spent shells and identifies LHO in a police lineup.
LHO had several fresh .38 bullits on his person when frisked by DPD. There is no doubt that he murdered a police officer in fleeing the scene of the crime.
@drbuckley1 That's funny...earlier you were emphasizing eyewitness testimony is unreliable, in contrast to "hard" evidence. Yet you insist the cop who recovered the shells made a mistake (on *hard* evidence that nobody but a chimp or somebody totally unfamiliar with guns would make a mistake on), while you are willing to unquestioningly accept Barbara Davis' claim the man she saw fleetingly was LHO, a man she didn't know, but saw plastered all over the media as "the president's assassin."
@RWT683 Your point is well taken, except that Ms. Davis was able to point detectives to the spent cartrigdes, which matched those in LHO's possession and which were fired from LHO's gun. Ms. Davis identified LHO long before his likeness became well known.
If LHO did not murder Tippit, who did? If LHO carried "curtain rods" to the TSBD, where are they? Why did LHO resist arrest? Why did LHO lie to detectives? I can name the shooter; can you name anybody else?
@drbuckley1 Well we can keep going back and forth on this...but if you read up on it LHO was being broadcast as the assassin almost immediately after JFK was shot...before he was in custody.
Yes, if Oswald owned a .38 spl, it would make sense he would have .38 spl rounds on him. If Tibbet was shot with a .38 auto it proves nothing.
Who matched the bullets to Oswald's gun? The FBI cover up team? You cannot ignore the *hard* evidence, that shells found at the scene ORIGINALLY were .38 auto.
@RWT683 LHO was quickly identified as a suspect because he fled the scene of the crime, unlike his coworkers.
The shells as the scene were misidentified, just as the murder weapon itself was misidentified. The spent casings found at the scence matched those in LHO's pockets and were fired from his revolver. You can claim that they were different but you cannot prove it, can you?
@drbuckley1 Something you should understand is a revolver does not eject spent shells like an (semi-)auto. So if somebody shot the cop with a revolver (38 spl) and there were shells at the scene, it means he stopped to eject the shells (which takes 5-10 seconds) before he ran...so he could leave evidence. Does that make any sense? No.
But if he shot a .38 Auto, they would be ejected automatically. In which case it wasn't Oswald.
Why if connelly moved would JFK have been hit three times... They say all three shots came from behind.... That makes no sense!!!!!!! Anyone else out there with a brain??????????????
A lot more people should see this one, since it means the whole official story falls apart. Connolly always said that he heard a shot fired, turned and then got hit himself. That's what he told the Warren Commission and that's what the Zapruder film shows. Then there was one bullet that was a total miss, so right here we have evidence that four or more shots were fired, some of them almost simultaneously.
Interestingly, in this version of the story, there is no "magic bullet" and no shot that missed. According to Hoover, Connolly is hit by the second shot, but it did not pass through JFK.
Of course not a dent on LBJ. Three heads of state, two of them shot while the VP is left unscratched. Boss LBJ co-opted with George Bush, the MIC, and Federal Reserve are all the culprits to the killings.
unbelievable and this was just recently posted.. Hoover admits there was more than one shooter. why something so important in our american history is not on the news...
How in the hell could Connely been in JFK's "way"? They said that had Connely not turned JFK would have been hit 3 times! Connely sat in front of JFK and in order for Connely to have been blocking a bullet that bullet must be coming from the FRONT!
zwebster97 2 days ago
@zwebster97 Yes, absolutely! why hasn't this been brought to light. Hoover, the chief law enforcment officer of the most powerful nation, giving his report to the President, said, unequivicallyal, that Connely blocked bullet no. 2 which would have hit Kennedy but for hitting Connley - who was in the front seat. Oswald was shooting from the rear. The only conclusion is Hoover was saying that shots were coming from the front of the car!!!
michaelwcrosby 7 hours ago
@zwebster97 see 9:45 to 10:06 where Hoover says if Connely did not turn and get hit with bullet No 2, it would have hit the President.
michaelwcrosby 7 hours ago
Hoover vicious hateful COCKSUCKA just like Nixon described him. Biggest blight on nation that they haven't taken his evil name off that building.
Only modern FBI pussies defend his ass cause they feel threatened by the truth about him.
tomkes100douchebag 4 days ago
Am I hearing Mr. Hoover correctly? He says that two bullets hit the president and they were fragmented. He says 1 hit the Governor. First and third hit Kennedy and the 3rd fell out of his head intact???? I thought both bullets that hit Kennedy were in fragments (as he first said)??? He contradicted himself???
bobzeda 2 weeks ago
Lyndon B Johnson is a traitor to America.
He ordered the murders of us servicemen with the help of israel
youtube USS Liberty - these sailors are still seeking justice for being stabbed in the back by Johnson - they are still being ignored.
Lyndon B Johnson got the Israeli military to attack a US Naval vessel, to use it as a pretext to go to war with Egypt and blame it on them, it was a false flag
Johnson killed American Servicemen. Go research, it's all true.
Communist2012 1 month ago
Remember, Oswald was already dead & buried & proclaimed by government to be the only assassin.
LBJ: "Were THEY aiming at the President"?
Hoover: "THEY were aiming directly at the President"!
LBJ: "How did it happen that THEY hit Connally"?
Remember being told the magic bullet that fell out of Connally's leg onto the hospital gurney? On this audio, before the public story version that was given out, Hoover tells LBJ that it came from JFKs head.
These 2 assholes gave up the conspiracy.
arther1046 2 months ago 14
@arther1046 please listen to 9:45 to 10:06 where the pronoun "they" is clarified. Hoover told Johnson that Connely turned and got hit with bullet no. 2 which blocked it from the President, otherwise Kennedy would have been hit. Since Connely was in the front seat, then Hoover is saying that the bullet came from the front...Oswald was in the rear.
michaelwcrosby 6 hours ago
LBJ & "Homo" Hoover know they are recording. LBJ calls cover-up artist "Homo" Hoover; because National suspicions & Charles DeGaul before an International audience said; that per his experts, the assassination was a coup d'etat ("Homo" Hoover and LBJ killing JFK to take over the Presidency.) Remember, "Homo" Hoover did the cover-up, oops, 'investigation' for the "Warren Commission Report". For TRUE Facts, view: "Greatest Video Ever" murder of JFK, MLK, Etc. at: youtube.com/watch?v=RJR3azgge_Y
PreacherDoc1 3 months ago
the only way that Connelly could have been in the way of a shot to JFK would be if the shot came from the front. is hoover misspeaking or did he know that Connelly was hit from the front.
cunnidvd 3 months ago
@cunnidvd Are you just kidding or really stupid? How many time did you hear "THEY" when referring to the assassins? Does anyone address you with a plural pronoun? If you talk about Oswald or a single friend, do you say "he" or "THEY"?
How many times does Hoover and LBJ have to say "THEY" before you know Hoover and LBJ are not misspeaking?
10Faenor 2 months ago
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cunnidvd 2 months ago
@10Faenor I'll bet you are a very lonely rude little moron.
cunnidvd 2 months ago
what fingerprints of Oswald was he talking about. I thought all they had was a palm print on a rifle.
cunnidvd 3 months ago
@cunnidvd it was only a palm print, you are correct.
jsb1cfc 3 months ago
Something else.
The JFK assassination is now directly linked to the MLK assassination. During the hunt for the car driven by the "alleged" killer of King, a piece of paper with the name Raoul and a phone number were on it. The FBI agent who discovered it did not tell about it or give it to his supervisor. Instead, he checked it out himself.
The phone number was tracked to a building in Dallas TX. The same building where the Carousel Club was located. The Carousel Club operated by Jack Ruby.
oIdmac1 3 months ago
@oIdmac1 Where in the world have you found this "link?" Source, please.
drbuckley1 3 months ago
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colormagicsky 3 months ago
Eyewitnesses to the shooting identified LHO, arther, and directed officers at the scene to his spent cartridges. Case closed.
drbuckley1 3 months ago
John McCloy had no authority whatsoever over the selection of Allied bombing targets in Germany. Those decisions were made by the president, the chair of the joint chiefs, and the commanders of the XIII U.S. Army Air Force.
drbuckley1 3 months ago
@drbuckley1 Asshole - McCloy had the input. Now, go wash your moms rented dildo before she come home from her downtown night job and smells your stinky on it. And don't forget to replace the batteries.
arther1046 3 months ago
@arther1046 If you are uninterested in a reasoned discussion, that is your prerogative. Viscious slurs do little to strengthen your credibility.
drbuckley1 3 months ago
@drbuckley1 Asshole - the video called "The 38 Auto Shells" proves Oswald did not kill the dirty cop. Everyone is starting to realize it was David Morales, CIA assassin, who murdered Tippit with his 38 auto pistol.
The movie theater person Butch Burroughs is on another video saying Oswald was there between 1:00 and 1:07. That make it impossible to be near Tippit. Of course, you already know about the Burroughs video. That is why you have the name Asshole.
arther1046 3 months ago
Hoover did not have a birth certificate until age 39
themeaningoflife38 3 months ago
@themeaningoflife38 Damn. He could have been elected president.
RWT683 2 months ago
@RWT683 sure, Hoover would just all the other candidates murdered like they did in 68 when they killed RFK so Bush puppet Nixon could get in there.
themeaningoflife38 2 months ago
Allen Dulles-former hitler supporter & cia director, fired by JFK for the bay of pigs.Dulled visited LBJ at is texas ranch 2 weeks before the JFK murder.
John McCloy-former hitler supporter,sat next to hitler at the 1936 Olympics.As assisant secretary of war during WW2, McCloy refused to allow allied bombing of railroads leading to concentration camps.
themeaningoflife38 3 months ago
There was no "magic bullet." The third bullet struck bones obliquely, not directly. The stretcher bullet was not "pristine" but significantly deformed by the impacts. Given the trajectory from the Sixth Floor and the seating arrangement in the
limousine, the governor could not avoid being hit by the same bullet than entered the president's back. Case closed.
drbuckley1 3 months ago
Hoover is quoting the first FBI report before they knew about the Tague strike and the first FBI report was waaaaaay off
blindjfk 4 months ago
Why is it not possible to make a new ballistic investigation about the bullets? The police in USA "open" and reinvestigate many so called 'cold cases'.Isn't it time to do it with this case? How can one (1) bullet pass so much bones and flesh without beeing destroyed?
petereuropa 4 months ago
@petereuropa How can one (1) bullet pass so much bones and flesh without being destroyed?
Ummmm…that is why it is called the Magic Bullet.
oIdmac1 4 months ago
@oIdmac1 Well, I thougt it was only the strange way the bullet went through the bodies.
petereuropa 4 months ago
@petereuropa The only thing strange is anyone would believe the government lies. Of course, that tells you how stupid people are on this planet. These fools deserve the police state they are getting now. Fuck em. Rip the idiots off.
oIdmac1 4 months ago
@oIdmac1 A student at the university who have been study to be a forensic detective for only the 1st year, could easyily decide if the bullet was the so called REAL "magic bullet". For an independent group of forensic specialists, this must be the most easy case to judge for them, or?
petereuropa 4 months ago
@petereuropa Been there, done that.
Government experts say that magic bullets happen every day. Independent experts say it's a lie and the conspiracy happened. Your choice. Use your own common sense...if you have any.
oIdmac1 4 months ago
@oIdmac1 Soon I don't care anymore. I have written so much questions here. Some of my questions might have been crap. Some may have been interesting. For the moment I take "time out" from this case. But I leave one question: if you have heared that your neighbor had said to you: "Hey, Ruth (Paine), I know that they want to hire where I work. I am at the TSBD, you know that, don't you?" "Is not Lee (HO) searching for a job? I might help him""Come tomorrow evening when I have returned from work."
petereuropa 4 months ago
...and on federal bases FBI has stopt so many serial killers and bad people. The FBI organisation makes a lot of good on American federal bases. That's for sure.
petereuropa 4 months ago
@petereuropa you still high on drug? When the FBI comes and takes your dumb ass away, we salute you.
cdddraftman 4 months ago
@cdddraftman Salute who? I have seen many TV-program when FBI have captured many dangerous killers and bad guys. For example the TV-program: The FBI Files. So you American people have a lot to thank FBI to keep the streets clean. And then you have Harry Callahan of course.
petereuropa 4 months ago
@cdddraftman High on Coca Cola you mean. Well I buy Pepsi sometimes too. It depends on the price.
petereuropa 4 months ago
Now FBI is on the right track. When FBI captured that man that again wanted to make an airoplane to destroy an American important building (september 2011).
Now we can say FBI - we salute you!
petereuropa 5 months ago
WTF???
The 3rd bullet JFK head shot was in & out. So how the fuck can it fall out of the head at the hospital? And it was splintered (fragmented)? Which frag piece fell out? This is bullshit. It fell out when they massaged JFK's heart?
Wait a fuckin minute. I remember the story was the stretcher bullet, the magic bullet, fell out of Connally's leg. OK OK. Ol' Gay Boy is telling LBJ the "1st draft" cover story, before the final public consumption story.
134jallen 5 months ago
"if Connolly hadn't got in his way then he'd have been hit three times"
How could Connolly have gotten in the presidents way since Connolly was in the front seat and the shots were supposed to have been fired from behind in the depository?
TheEmachines22 5 months ago
great president as a viet im glad u mess up vietanm by bombing them
samantha34ize 5 months ago
So Hoover admits Connally got in the way of the bullet. That couldnt have happened with a shot from behind. It all adds up to there being a shooter that is now memorialized in the "Red Lady's" picture, wearing a police officer's uniform and the muzzle flash of the rifle going off the instant she snapped the picture (Or was it a still from a movie? I dont remember). Yet JEH sounds so honest when talking about it being only one man.
N1k1mon 6 months ago
“How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think". ---Adolf Hitler
Everyone stop cursing Hitler. He did not do anything your current leaders are not doing to set up the United Police States of America. Hitler was voted into power by a democratic government.
Curse yourself for enabling these animals, voting for the republicrats, time and again.
10Faenor 7 months ago
Fucking Hoover says the shooter was on the 5th floor. I guess Hoover later decided the view was better for him to be on the 6th floor. Less tree limbs to shoot through. LOL.
barmtraiI 7 months ago
Dam mcn1960 you hit the nail on the head the was brilliant
Matthaios47 8 months ago
I suppose he could've used "they" to refer to one person in place of 'he'. Like "there was one shooter and they were standing here". But that thing about if Connoly hadn't moved sort of implies he thinks the shooter was in front.
ritalinSolution 9 months ago
@ritalinSolution Nobody uses the plural word "they' when referring to one person. That nonsense is never taught in any schools for English language. Except for you. Obviously, you get an F grade.
Yes, there was at least one frontal assassin. The relationship between Ruby & Oswald was ignored by Miss Mary Hoover (I saw the pic of him in some drag - earrings and woman's hair bun). The women at Ruby's club and other entertainers and Ruby associates said Oswald and Ruby knew each other.
barmtraiI 8 months ago
Wow. One of the best pieces of information about the assassination,
amazonman54 9 months ago
@amazonman54 Hoover is telling LBJ his contrived evidence story to convict Oswald. Listen for the part about the bullet falling out of JFKs head onto the hospital stretcher. Remember? We were told it was the Connally bullet that fell out in the hospital. A magic bullet indeed! It can fall out of 2 guys at the same time. LOL. 2 lying vermin assholes.
jjh36Is 7 months ago
Read --Me and LEE for the whole story on this..
great book
mrcitrus6 10 months ago
Oswald was never in Mexico CIty,
bucknorm 10 months ago
Does any know the full names of the men Johnson suggests to J.Edgar Hoover?
I cannot decipherer the names.
dthav 10 months ago
If you have heard the recording e howard hunt gave his son you would not feel the need to discuss any of this.
It is all very clear.
FuzzyHedz 10 months ago
@FuzzyHedz Take the Hunt "confession" as a "limited hangout." It's truths and lies mixed together, but not the definitive account. There are still people alive today who were involved in the "big event" that Hunt never mentioned, and thereby protected. Hunt was a spook til the end.
rumrunner777 10 months ago
THIS IS PROOF OF A CONSPIRACY. JOHNSONS CLEARLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE INVESTIGATIONS OF THE ASSASSINATION AND HE IS TALKING ABOUT ASSIGNING SOMEONE HE KNOWS TO THE SENATE INVESTIGATION COMMITEE.
Zenapproach09 1 year ago
from what angle are we talking 'if connolly hadn't been in his way'?
glrcmptn 1 year ago
Within the last 10 seconds they gave away the conspiracy. And yet we still vote..
PELLOWHEAD 1 year ago
I dont see any conspiracy here, they didnt have all the information at the time in fact the first bullet missed completely and both JFK and Connelly were hit by the second, the third was of course the fatal head shot of JFK. Its impressive that they were able to piece what happened together so quickly and fairly accurately given the technology of the day.
lbrad2001 1 year ago
Gee, you think the fix was in from the start? But most mainstream media types and politicians stand by the J Edgar . .. I mean Warren Report.
RPenta 1 year ago
The back shot bullet after JFK recieved heart massge fell out !!! That toally destroys the magic single bullet theory. Straight from Hoover's lips.
sargoth37 1 year ago
"were THEY aiming at the President?" - LBJ
fangorabbc 1 year ago 9
@fangorabbc And they go on saying "they." Johnson: "Were THEY aiming at the president?" Hoover: "THEY were aiming directly at the president." Johnson: "How did it happen that THEY hit Connolly?"
rumrunner777 10 months ago
@rumrunner777 This tape has more gems. Remember the bullet that fell out of Connally's leg onto the hospital gurney? On this audio, before the public story version that was given out, Hoover tells LBJ that it came from JFKs head.
And something else. He says the head bullet was splintered (meaning it was in pieces), but could still be identified coming from the MC rifle. Then he says it was a whole bullet falling out in the hospital. LOL. That bullet really was more magical.
jjh36Is 7 months ago
@jjh36Is Maybe Houdini did it! lol
OzzyFan87 7 months ago
@fangorabbc Not only that but LBJ replies "THEY were aiming directly at the President"
Tonyo1221 3 months ago
@Tonyo1221 President Johnson barely knew any facts at the time of the conversation. The Warren Commission was the most thorough investigation in U.S. history at the time. The Commission's report has never been debunked and its broad conclusions--Oswald was the only shooter and acted alone--have never been disproved.
drbuckley1 3 months ago
@drbuckley1 The Warren comission has been debunked in several quarters and also remember the last official US government comment on this assassination was in 1979, from the US justice department . It stated through the assassinations review board that there was a "probable" conspiracy.
Tonyo1221 3 months ago
@Tonyo1221 Who has debunked the report, in what quarters and on which points? Please direct me to the 1979 report that stated there was a "probable" conspiracy. Are you refering to the 1976 House Select Committee Report?
LHO fled the scene of the crime, killed a police officer, resisted arrest, and lied to detectives. This does not sound the behavior of an innocent person to me.
drbuckley1 3 months ago
@drbuckley1 If you dont know who has debunked Warren and why, your very sheltered. Please type : tmwkk the guilty men - into youtubes search box and watch the full version video. Then plaese come back to me and tell me what your honest opinion is.
Tonyo1221 3 months ago
@Tonyo1221 Lyndon Johnson killed JFK? That is too preposterous to rebut.
drbuckley1 3 months ago
@drbuckley1 No, he alone didnt kill him . But he knew who else was involved. He knew of the conspiracy, he knew who was behind it, he was aware of it and why.
Tonyo1221 3 months ago
@Tonyo1221 Evidence, please. And by the way, YouTube videos are not evidence of anything. I'm still waiting to hear about that "1979 government conspiracy" document.
Do you believe that LHO was a "patsy?"
drbuckley1 3 months ago
@drbuckley1 youtube videos are evidence of everything. Just because you say they are not means nothing. The video called "The 38 Auto Shells" proves Oswald did not kill Tippit. The DPD was carrying 38 Special guns in 1963; same as you claim Oswald had. But Tippit was shot with a 38 Auto. Revolver bullets and Auto bullets do not fire from the same gun.
Arther1046 is correct. your name is Asshole.
arther1046 3 months ago
@arther1046 Are you claiming that .38 revolvers and .38 semi-automatics use different bullets? Do you know anything at all about guns? Are you for real?
drbuckley1 3 months ago
@drbuckley1 Asshole - were you smart enough to look at the recommended video "The 38 Auto Shells" before making your stupid comment? No...of course not.
arther1046 3 months ago
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@drbuckley1 Asshole - were you smart enough to look at the recommended video "The 38 Auto Shells" before making your stupid comment? No, of course not.
arther1046 3 months ago
@drbuckley1 Do YOU know anything about guns? Apparently not.
.38 special was and remains a ubiquitous handgun caliber that is the most common chambering for revolvers.
.38 auto is a rare caliber a few turn of the century colt semi-auto pistols were chambered in and is no longer produced. They are not the same bullets or cartridges, and they are not interchangeable.
RWT683 3 months ago
@RWT683 When Oswald was arrested, he had in his possession a Smith & Wesson 38 Special caliber revolver, serial number V510210. Four cartridge cases were found in the shrubbery on the corner of 10th and Patton by three eyewitnesses. It was the unanimous and unequivocal testimony of expert witnesses before the Commission that these used cartridge cases were fired from the revolver in Oswald's possession to the exclusion of all other weapon.
If you have contrary evidence, please provide it.
drbuckley1 3 months ago
@drbuckley1 You are changing the subject. I was speaking purely to your claim .38 revolvers and .38 semi-autos use the same bullets (or cartridges, if you know the difference which I doubt) which is manifestly NOT the case. In fact, anybody with real knowledge of handguns knows this, and by illustrating your ignorance on this subject you lend zero credibility to yourself and tend to discredit whatever claim you are debating about Oswald which I am not involved in.
RWT683 3 months ago
@RWT683 Thanks for the education. I am perfectly willing to change my mind when given evidence. Now, let's see if others on this list are as equally open to facts.
A mistake at the scene by an officer does not refute the fact that the empty casings retrieved at the site were fired from Oswald's revolver. Eyewittnesses are occasionally unliable; hard evidence is typically reliable.
Case closed.
drbuckley1 3 months ago
@drbuckley1 OK, but evidence can be planted or faked if there was an FBI cover-up. But if there are a large number of discrepancies in the official story (as there are, but physical and eye-witness), it tends to raise doubt whether what they would have us believe is correct.
In this case, the confusion of an experienced police officer over the difference between .38 spl and .38 auto casings is not believable.
They planted the shells so they would match Oswald's gun.
RWT683 3 months ago
@RWT683 I very much doubt that evidence was planted. More likely the officer made a simple mistake, not that suprising given the stress that permeated all of Dallas that day. Officers in the TSBD originally identified the murder weapon as a "Mauser," which of course it was not.
When you write "they planted" evidence, you really ought to identify who "they" are. The name of the killer was LHO; if you can provide a different name, we would all appreciate it.
drbuckley1 3 months ago
@drbuckley1 No...I don't have to provide you with all the answers in order for my (and many others') criticism to be valid. I do not have all the answers...I am just saying the answers we have been given do not add up. In the USA man is innocent until proven guilty. The "evidence" against Oswald would never have convicted him with a good defense before an impartial jury (if such could have been found). That is why he was killed before he could be tried.
RWT683 3 months ago
@RWT683 If you cannot identify the killer and I can, then the reader can decide things for herself.
We are not a court of law, so we can determine guilt or innocence despite Ruby's successful effort to silence LHO once and for all.
The evidence against LHO was established by the DPD on the night of Nov. 22 and has never been persuasively refuted.
Finally, when you write that "he was killed," the obvious question is "by whom?" Drop the passive voice and use the active voice.
drbuckley1 3 months ago
@drbuckley1 Let's get this straight...YOU cannot identify the killer. You can identify who you have been TOLD is the killer.
And no, we cannot convict Oswald based on inconsistent evidence outside a court. But that is what the media and government did.
"Drop the passive and use the active?" Drop the BS and use common sense.
The problem is you along with 95% of the population cannot deal with "cognitive dissonance." Look it up.
RWT683 3 months ago 10
@RWT683 I can and I have: LHO. If he was not killer, tell me who was. Give me a name. You cannot, can you?
drbuckley1 3 months ago
@RWT683 drbuckley1 is not a doctor at all. Just anther lying ass shill.
The cop was shot with a .38 Auto. They say Oswald shot him with a .38 Special revolver. The DPD carried .38 Specials in 1963. Think they can mis-ID they own shit they use every day of their police lives?
Look at the video: The .38 Auto Shells
All bullets are stamped on the bottom what they are. No possible mis-ID. The cops got it right, and then were told to change their words. Every cop knew: change or die.
barmtraiI 2 months ago
@barmtraiI You'll get no argument from me.
But some people don't have the balls to accept the kind of world we live in. They think good always defeats evil and every story has a happy ending. These are the people who have watched too many movies...not the "conspiracy theorists" but the coincidence theorists, the people who deny that bad people get together to do bad things because they won't face facts that we are not ruled by saints.
RWT683 2 months ago 2
@RWT683 Thanks again for the information.
LHO released the cylinder, ejected the spent cartridges, and tossed them into shrubbery after shooting Officer Tippit on Tenth Street. This was witnessed by Barbara Davis at approximately 1:12 p.m. She later shows detectives the location of the spent shells and identifies LHO in a police lineup.
LHO had several fresh .38 bullits on his person when frisked by DPD. There is no doubt that he murdered a police officer in fleeing the scene of the crime.
drbuckley1 3 months ago
@drbuckley1 That's funny...earlier you were emphasizing eyewitness testimony is unreliable, in contrast to "hard" evidence. Yet you insist the cop who recovered the shells made a mistake (on *hard* evidence that nobody but a chimp or somebody totally unfamiliar with guns would make a mistake on), while you are willing to unquestioningly accept Barbara Davis' claim the man she saw fleetingly was LHO, a man she didn't know, but saw plastered all over the media as "the president's assassin."
RWT683 3 months ago
@RWT683 Your point is well taken, except that Ms. Davis was able to point detectives to the spent cartrigdes, which matched those in LHO's possession and which were fired from LHO's gun. Ms. Davis identified LHO long before his likeness became well known.
If LHO did not murder Tippit, who did? If LHO carried "curtain rods" to the TSBD, where are they? Why did LHO resist arrest? Why did LHO lie to detectives? I can name the shooter; can you name anybody else?
drbuckley1 3 months ago
@drbuckley1 Well we can keep going back and forth on this...but if you read up on it LHO was being broadcast as the assassin almost immediately after JFK was shot...before he was in custody.
Yes, if Oswald owned a .38 spl, it would make sense he would have .38 spl rounds on him. If Tibbet was shot with a .38 auto it proves nothing.
Who matched the bullets to Oswald's gun? The FBI cover up team? You cannot ignore the *hard* evidence, that shells found at the scene ORIGINALLY were .38 auto.
RWT683 3 months ago
@RWT683 LHO was quickly identified as a suspect because he fled the scene of the crime, unlike his coworkers.
The shells as the scene were misidentified, just as the murder weapon itself was misidentified. The spent casings found at the scence matched those in LHO's pockets and were fired from his revolver. You can claim that they were different but you cannot prove it, can you?
drbuckley1 3 months ago
@drbuckley1 Something you should understand is a revolver does not eject spent shells like an (semi-)auto. So if somebody shot the cop with a revolver (38 spl) and there were shells at the scene, it means he stopped to eject the shells (which takes 5-10 seconds) before he ran...so he could leave evidence. Does that make any sense? No.
But if he shot a .38 Auto, they would be ejected automatically. In which case it wasn't Oswald.
RWT683 3 months ago
i am surprised these tapes were not erased
foreverhulkamania 1 year ago
Why if connelly moved would JFK have been hit three times... They say all three shots came from behind.... That makes no sense!!!!!!! Anyone else out there with a brain??????????????
hitman23db 1 year ago
A lot more people should see this one, since it means the whole official story falls apart. Connolly always said that he heard a shot fired, turned and then got hit himself. That's what he told the Warren Commission and that's what the Zapruder film shows. Then there was one bullet that was a total miss, so right here we have evidence that four or more shots were fired, some of them almost simultaneously.
mcmchugh99 1 year ago
Interestingly, in this version of the story, there is no "magic bullet" and no shot that missed. According to Hoover, Connolly is hit by the second shot, but it did not pass through JFK.
mcmchugh99 1 year ago
Of course not a dent on LBJ. Three heads of state, two of them shot while the VP is left unscratched. Boss LBJ co-opted with George Bush, the MIC, and Federal Reserve are all the culprits to the killings.
mercenarybdu 1 year ago
unbelievable and this was just recently posted.. Hoover admits there was more than one shooter. why something so important in our american history is not on the news...
mrw730 1 year ago
Hoover admitting there were 3 Bullets! unbeleivable!
mcn1960 1 year ago
why not? Hoover hated the Kennedys and he knew the truth about the whole assassination and he knew his buddy Lyndon Johnson was responsible...
3dartistguy 1 year ago
@mcn1960 Hoover is not admitting there were 3 bullets. He is telling LBJ the cover story of 3 bullets. And then they say too much to prove conspiracy.
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LBJ - "I say, if he ,,, if Connolly hadn't been in his way..."
JEH - "Oh yes, yes. The President no doubt would have been hit."
LBJ -- "He would have been hit three times?"
JEH -- "He would have been hit three times."
How can Connolly possibly be in the way of another bullet from ONLY a rear shooter?
It must be another "magic bullet".
jacobji5 1 year ago 16