It is important to understand that their is a BIG, BIG difference between science and religious belief systems. Science is a tool used to solve problems. Religious belief systems are things you believe in. You don't believe in science. Instead, you use it to solve problems just like your hammer. You don't believe in your hammer, you use it to solve problems. Science and religious belief systems are completely unrelated and unfit for comparison.
They should show how well evolved the Hyena's jaw is for ripping flesh and crushing bone. Or how about a pythons powerful muscles asphyxiating their victims and swallowing them whole. Man, God is rated R.
It doesn't take a scientist to figure out such PERFECTION. From the universe to the solar system, earth, creatures etc. you can tell such PERFECTION.
These FACTS that human has been struggle to understand. Question yourself can a STONE turn to a BREAD by itself ? Absolutely not except by the power of the CREATOR. More specificly, the computer you use is just created by itself or by human ?? I guess you don't need a scientist to figure this out for you...don't you ???
And you're a real fucking moron. You don't even know what the evolutionary theory states, and you babble on and on about the perfection of the universe as stated in the bible, but then turn the other cheek and say that the bible states that the universe is "running down". Can't have it both ways, dipshit. The bible is shit and so is your god.
well if u are a true christian then u dont beleive in dinosaurs i guess the dinosaurs are just bullshit but we all know thats not true just go to your citys science museum lol
how long will it take for some people to take there blindfolds off and ask questions that we do have the capabilitys to answer i dont know but religion brings great things to humanity but also the most horrific things that are imaginable i honestly think god is just the original model of half of our dna we are hybrids
Hey buddy, we go to church so we can stay close to other beleivers, have fun and stay closer to god, and as for the pastors we listen to them because they can summarize a book of the bible. Yeah we read books but we don't research creation alot, because we have lives, spiritually, socailly, and jobs so we don't research. We walk by faith and not by sight some day everyone will know our god is real, and some will be happier than others. =) have good day
"Yeah we read books but we don't research creation alot, because we have lives, spiritually, socailly, and jobs so we don't research."
If you have time to watch TV, you have time to research. Its not that hard to do.
You are, as sciencenerd said, intellectually lazy. You dont research because your Ignorance (not to be an insult) is comfortable, and research is, to some people Boring, and others threatening.
A good video showing how complex the design is in the turtle bug and the firefly. The amazing thing is that God designed and created so many, literally millions of them, each with their own unique design. It is truly mind boggling to even begin to comprehend how great and powerful our creator is. A man does not have knowledge, (no matter how educated he may be) until he begins to recognize that God is truly awesome!
Yep, and it's sooooo amazing too how 99% of everything "god" ever created is now extinct....wasn't able to live in this "perfect world" god created for his creatures...god has a great track record of creation, there sure.....
Ok now here we have muslims who hijacked the Creation story from the Bible so that they can claim that Allah and God are the same witch i think is false.Allah does nt exist but God is.
As for evolutionists well,some secular scientists claimed that the Evolution Theory is false and they re not some college kids pretending to be scientists they are real physicians,doctors and they are not creationists can you explain this?
I see two cars, and they are similar in every aspects. I hypothesize that one of the car gave birth to the other car. Of course this happy long ago so, it is The Evolution of Cars.
No thats how christians who dont know what evolution is or lie to say somthing stupid to try and make excuses for the bible and the almighty god it it. Then how do you explaing where god came from, since it was impossible for man to evolve. Thats even more improbable.
maybe these systems seem so "complex" because we try to see them through the models created by us to explain nature (math, physics, whatever). maybe the true workings of nature we don't understand yet...and when we do these systems will seem logical rather than having to explain them by suggesting someone had to sit down and design them specifically
i guess i shouldn't have used the word logical. i meant there exists a point of view (we have or haven't found it yet) through which it will seem simple enough so that we do not have to give up and admit that it was a supernatural act. (just to let you know...this is just my belief...if you believe in god i've no intention to convince you otherwise...)
how about this , god exists outside of time-space, hence "infinate" but matter and energy cannot exist outside of time-space, this is a theoretical law, so god is not energy or matter, the only truely measurable constants of this universe, there for god= nothing and the belief in god is a delusion. quid pro quo.
you have 2 choices; either everything came from nothing (which is impossible), or something always existed and created us. You have no other choice. Take a moment to think about that.
Particles pop in and out of existence all the time. Not only do they pop in and out of existence, but they occasionally appear in two different places at once.
Ask ANY physicist. "Something from nothing" happens over and over EVERY SECOND.
Now, if we had a universe that was only subject to the laws of relativity, you would be correct, but we don't. There are two forces relativity doesn't even address.
Why not? Everything might have come from the last universe, in an infinite cycle of universes, for instance. To say that there are only two choices is wildly nonsensical.
And to take the intelligence argument: "Something came from nothing because a magic man (who happened to look exactly like us) magically zapped it into being". Does that not sound remotely incredible to you? Its just the same argument with bullshit about a wizard thrown in. I'll take the non-wizard option, I think.
as it is with life,and when they use this argument, it is a falicy, life by chance is not science,life is not out of nowhere, basic chemicals were present, and add a static electric charge and you get the protenes for the dna chain and when you get a billion times a billion of them all bumping againsed eachother you invairiably get a chain, and bingo, life. cont.
teaching in american school for several years now. they teach that bye random chances and coincidences and bye hundred of millions years of random events just and coincidences.
Why is it the zealots are always the ones with the poorest grasp of English? Correlation maybe?
However, if you actually READ any of the textbooks about which you purport to know so much, you'd know that not a single one says anything about evolution happening by random chance. Read my lips (or text. Whatever): NATURAL SELECTION. Natural selection is not chance, and, if you bother to read a textbook, you'll find it says a lot about it, unless you're reading the First Grader's Guide To Science.
"natural selection is still a random chance factor"
No, natural selection really isn't chance. Really. Read one of the textbooks you claim to know all about before saying what's in them. Its not chance and I don't know what else to say that can convince you if you aren't prepared to actually read.
The clue should really be the word "selection". Since when has selection, in any context, been random? I think you'll find that when you select for something, you're very definitely not being random.
ok dude relax, we are dealing with people who, if the bible said so, would believe giant chickens made of nosehair and natchos inhabited the crators of volcanos, and you could have pics of all crators around the world prooving that no such creachur existed and they would say " they are all hideing"
This is becoming evident. It would be really nice, though, if once, just once, they understood what they were attacking, and made valid cases for why it isn't right. If they just once read... a book. Well, except THAT book :P
But to be so mind bogglingly (to borrow from Kent Hovind) dumb-on-purpose, it vexes and horrifies me.
you wanna see how stupid you sound, the big bang for example you guys are basicly saying that first there was nothing and then it just exploded. does that make any sense to you?
to me using logic not only does that sound ridiculous but it belong in the fiction .
there had never been an explosion ive seen where is causes order, explosions in reality cause chaos , destruction, and degeneration.
well it seems you dont even know what the big bang theory meens, if you are going to try to debate you should know what you are talking about, and you surely dont. and i would like an example of your idea of logic, so tell me do you believe in god, and tell me the logic that proves it, i bet its not logic, just blind conjecture. but please tell me.
using logic lets take the universes and the watch for example in comparison both have many complex parts that work together to form a functional system and both also exist and have an origin , the watch was made from the watch maker with his parts and his design and so is the universe and that it was made from a bye someone. to say that a watch came bye chance just appear out of nowhere spontaneously would be ridiculous .
Well apart from the watch analogy being flawed, I'm just going to say that the idea of the Big Bang as a huge explosion is something of a misconception. It wasn't a Hollywood "BOOM!", more a rapid expansion of space time - from whence, we haven't the first idea. Stick God in there if it makes you happy. During this first expansion, it is conjectured that ripples formed, allowing gravity to do its thing and clump matter together into nebulae and then stars.
your talking about cosmic evolution or big bang which has never been observed and theres no way to proof that it happened so it is not science, its nothing more mere speculation.
It is speculation which happens to be supported by all the evidence we have. Really that's all any scientific theory is. Gravity is nothing but speculation based on the evidence of falling and orbits and stuff. Would you like to take the "religion" of gravity out of schools too? How about the speculative "religion" of medicine out of hospitals?
The current universe is expanding (identified by the red Doppler shift of stars and universe we observe). Take that back in time to its logical end and the big bang seems an inevitable conclusion.
Also, the galaxies in the universe seem to be arranged in clusters, web like strands throughout the universe. This is strong evidence of the "ripples" I was talking about earlier.
Also, the background radiation and temperature of the universe point towards some kind of big bang event.
your theory is not science you say that the universe big bang started ever thing well tell me where did the big bang come from? and then your going to tell me that it came from nothing.
that makes no sense nothing is going to make nothing. even in mathematics nothing is going to make nothing 0+0=0.
I say your theory of evolution could be compared to a fairy tail.
Its weird, I know, but the fact remains its the best theory we have at the time. I quite like brane theory's explanation of the origin of the universe, though there are a couple. "The collision of two oscillating branes caused our universe to exist in the intersection" is the gist.
We don't make claims to *know* how it happened, but its what the evidence points to. You can stick God in at the big bang if you like. Though I think its a cop out.
like ive said before there is no shred of evidence to proof the big bang. you have to two choices (1)you can choose to say that the universe made it self even though you evolutionist do not have an outside energy for the big bang since the universe is a closed system. or (2) you could choose to believe that the universe was made by purposeful intelligents.
You mean apart from the background radiation, the arrangement of galaxies in the universe...
Everything we see confirms the big bang and that the universe is 13 and a bit billion years old. Why the big bang happened is a bit of a mystery, I admit, but can't you see that its such a poor cop out to jump to the conclusion that god did it?
If the singularity was spinning, it would have to be spinning in relation to something else. Nothing else existed, so no, it was not spinning by any rational definition.
that the thing you people have no evidence, gravity is not speculated the invisible force of gravity has been observe and tested we know how it works.
as it is with life,and when they use this argument, it is a falicy, life by chance is not science,life is not out of nowhere, basic chemicals were present, and add a static electric charge and you get the protenes for the dna chain and when you get a billion times a billion of them all bumping againsed eachother you invairiably get a chain, and bingo, life. cont.
it realy is not so difficult to find the data, look for it, i do not think you are stupid, i just think you have been steared away from the real scientific info, all arguments about irreducible complexity have ben laid to rest so far i.c.omplexity duz not exist, so no dice on that one.
Yes, its rather a shame he was doing the wrong sum. How many times must I explain this to you, evolution is NOT CHANCE! Even an amoeba has been evolving for ages, and is a terribly complex system. The first "life" was probably a single small amino acid molecule, which could self replicate. But now we're dangerously close to veering off the topic of evolution once again.
In fact abiogenesis happening at all must necessarily be fairly unlikely, because as far as we know, it only happened once on this planet.
But look at the Hubble Ultra Deep Field image, full of galaxies, themselves full of billions stars, and you get an idea that even one in a billion is fairly likely given the number of planets there must be.
i think you meen creationism=(ignorance, stupidity, nonsense, lies and a delusion that an imaginary being exists) wow you should realy check your facts befor you post stuff or people will think you're stupid, and you are welcome for pointing out you're screw up , no need to say thank you, helping is thanks enuf.
The big bang was not an explosion. It was the rapid expansion of space-time. Your notion of an explosion being the source of the universe is completely erroneous.
then how about not calliing it the big bang anymore because big bang tells me explosion. and
even if its wrapid expansion its still an explosion and its still false and phony theory that belongs only in science fiction. and you people have no evidence of its and because you have nothing tangible realy your belief in the theory of evolution is realy a religious one.
I like how we're talking about the big bang and then you just sneak evolution into it as if they're the same. Can we at least stick to one field of science?
You're right about the big bang, to a degree - Its still a touchy subject and we really don't know if that's what happened or not. It is, however, the best current theory, for which we do have some evidence (like the universe today expanding, background radiation etc).
cosmic evolution which the same thing with evolution. also if you study second law of thermodynamics which is the law of entropy:which
states that as time advances the universe becomes less ordered ,over time all systems left on there own proceed towards a direct from order to disorder.
"The entropy of an isolated system which is not in equilibrium will tend to increase over time, approaching a maximum value at equilibrium."
The problem with your post is that: (A) Earth is not an isolated system, nor is the universe determined to be, (B) The law says nothing about proceeding from order to disorder, but rather predicts an overall increase in entropy and (C) Below the Planck scale EVERYTHING is random, anyway.
Exactly what I was going to say. Only I would have said that as far as we know the universe is a closed system. As far as we know, that is. Even that doesn't change the wrongness of Jos though. :)
As far as I have read, the universe can be determined to be neither open, nor closed through any empirical means.
However, the only theory of which I'm aware that makes any speculation on this is M-theory. I tend to think of M-theory as blurring the line between science and philosophy/religion, but it does predict an OPEN universe.
bullshit your lier , I do not miss quote the 2nd law , its you who is misquoting . the second law of thermodynamics is the law of entropy you idiot. now the second law allows you to increase in order like a baby
grow up into an adult or seed into a tree , but if and only if you have an outside energy source and harnessing mechanism to capture that energy which you evolutionist do not have.you must be some kind of idiot,entropy states that as time advances universe become less ordered.
If anything, it would confirm what you think the second law is. A singularity would be extreme order. A sudden rapid expansion would then be extreme disorder.
Order to disorder, just like you falsely predict, yes?
No outside energy? Oh really? Tell me how you know so much about the exterior of the universe, when, as Qabala quite rightly pointed out, no current theory really makes any prediction on that score. Could it be we're actually talking to GOD?! :O
On a serious note, its immaterial since cosmic evolution doesn't really violate the theory. Everything might tend towards entropy, but that doesn't mean you can't have temporary order in the interim, and you're forgetting forces like gravity.
I know enough to know that the universe is a closed system. cause logically if the universe is a closed system then I dont see how the big bang could have come to be , without an outside energy source to cause the explosion you have no big bang.
So we research, come up with better theories, and try to come up with a better understanding of the universe. Just because something is unexplainable right now - and I'll hand it to you that the origin of the big bang is, for the moment - doesn't mean it always will be, nor should we just give up and say "it must be God". That's so defeatist and removes so much majesty from the world.
There is no empirical nor logistical knowledge that can determine whether the universe is closed or open, but once again, M-Theory proposes that the universe is open and floats amongst infinite other universes in 11 dimensional hyperspace.
i see. the universe started out as samll as this period. life on earth started out as a little cell. and creationists are ignorant. you say creationists believe in god cus it makes them feel safe, but you never stop to think that you dont like creationists cus you dont want to be held accountable or responsible. the truth is staring you down but you still deny it.
fleetofauirbitches, he knows what natural selection is, but what the guy in this video is talking about is irreducibly complex systems, where it requires every single part of the system to function at the right time, place ect. ect. if each part of the system developed over time, then the system would fail and would be fatal to the animal and (in some cases)would wipe the whole species out.
Because I am to ignorant to understand something it must not be understandable and therefore must be the result of god. For my ego is too grand to imagine that others are capable of understanding truths that I am not. Is thunder still god bowling and lightning the spears of Zeus? Is disease still the result of evil spirits? Willful ignorance is an infection perpetuated by lies.
I was going to leave a comment, but after reading this, I realized all that needed to be said about this video has already been said. Well put cdk007.
ditto. whoever read this out is a moron. what's all this about coincidences? they're easily explainable, you just cant get your head around it. science explains them and when they're right they cant be proven wrong! you should try reading a book written in this millenium you fossil. rather than trying to explain everything away with fictional Gods - follow the facts and the world will fill with more wonder :D
Long live the Flying Spaghetti Monster!
sinmantky 9 months ago
Our brilliant Creator also made the AIDS virus which kills millions of children every year. He is AWESOME!
markgg1 10 months ago
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It is important to understand that their is a BIG, BIG difference between science and religious belief systems. Science is a tool used to solve problems. Religious belief systems are things you believe in. You don't believe in science. Instead, you use it to solve problems just like your hammer. You don't believe in your hammer, you use it to solve problems. Science and religious belief systems are completely unrelated and unfit for comparison.
blaisingm 11 months ago
lizzards have the same hairon their fingertips
UninstallingWindows 1 year ago
Stupid video. The entire premise is the simplistic argument from incredulity. "Life is complex and amazing; therefore God did it."
No.
1ProudFemaleAtheist 1 year ago
NEW THEORY GO: God was bored so he created the universe. And when he found Earth he went like "I WILL CREATED LIVING THINGS THROUGH SCIENCE". And it.
Was. Good.
TheSonOfDumb 1 year ago
"enormous perfection" - what a joke.
God is the greatest non-sequiter ever.
Sardonac 2 years ago
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Which version of Creation in the Bible do you like best?
Genesis Chapter ONE,
in which humans were created AFTER plants and animals?
Or chapter TWO, in which humans were created BEFORE plants and animals?
Chapter ONE,
in which man and woman were created at the same time?
Or chapter TWO,
in which man was created before the plants
and woman was created after all the animals?
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
They should show how well evolved the Hyena's jaw is for ripping flesh and crushing bone. Or how about a pythons powerful muscles asphyxiating their victims and swallowing them whole. Man, God is rated R.
ripticdu 3 years ago
It doesn't take a scientist to figure out such PERFECTION. From the universe to the solar system, earth, creatures etc. you can tell such PERFECTION.
These FACTS that human has been struggle to understand. Question yourself can a STONE turn to a BREAD by itself ? Absolutely not except by the power of the CREATOR. More specificly, the computer you use is just created by itself or by human ?? I guess you don't need a scientist to figure this out for you...don't you ???
newface08 3 years ago
And you're a real fucking moron. You don't even know what the evolutionary theory states, and you babble on and on about the perfection of the universe as stated in the bible, but then turn the other cheek and say that the bible states that the universe is "running down". Can't have it both ways, dipshit. The bible is shit and so is your god.
DeadFishFactory 3 years ago
god put the dinosaur fossils there to test our faith
gods a joker!
markgg1 3 years ago
well if u are a true christian then u dont beleive in dinosaurs i guess the dinosaurs are just bullshit but we all know thats not true just go to your citys science museum lol
how long will it take for some people to take there blindfolds off and ask questions that we do have the capabilitys to answer i dont know but religion brings great things to humanity but also the most horrific things that are imaginable i honestly think god is just the original model of half of our dna we are hybrids
linedrive247 3 years ago
Hey buddy, we go to church so we can stay close to other beleivers, have fun and stay closer to god, and as for the pastors we listen to them because they can summarize a book of the bible. Yeah we read books but we don't research creation alot, because we have lives, spiritually, socailly, and jobs so we don't research. We walk by faith and not by sight some day everyone will know our god is real, and some will be happier than others. =) have good day
paladin12122 3 years ago
"Yeah we read books but we don't research creation alot, because we have lives, spiritually, socailly, and jobs so we don't research."
If you have time to watch TV, you have time to research. Its not that hard to do.
You are, as sciencenerd said, intellectually lazy. You dont research because your Ignorance (not to be an insult) is comfortable, and research is, to some people Boring, and others threatening.
WeedGreenPowerRanger 3 years ago
Christians are intellectually lazy; When christians talk about science they have no idea what they are talking about.
I think christians don't read books, or do research, they just repeat what other christians or pastors say.
A good example of that is church, Why do they go listen to someone else read and interpret a book (bible)to them?
Grow up and start thinking and learning for yourselves.
This video is such bulls**t! How does this prove creationism?
sciencenerd213 3 years ago
A good video showing how complex the design is in the turtle bug and the firefly. The amazing thing is that God designed and created so many, literally millions of them, each with their own unique design. It is truly mind boggling to even begin to comprehend how great and powerful our creator is. A man does not have knowledge, (no matter how educated he may be) until he begins to recognize that God is truly awesome!
JDtheMusicMan 3 years ago
Yep, and it's sooooo amazing too how 99% of everything "god" ever created is now extinct....wasn't able to live in this "perfect world" god created for his creatures...god has a great track record of creation, there sure.....
1ProudFemaleAtheist 3 years ago
god is awesome!!!so are many other man made creations!!!
sirflabnbone 3 years ago
Why did 99.999% of ALL life DIE! then?
herbiethebarber 3 years ago
Ok now here we have muslims who hijacked the Creation story from the Bible so that they can claim that Allah and God are the same witch i think is false.Allah does nt exist but God is.
As for evolutionists well,some secular scientists claimed that the Evolution Theory is false and they re not some college kids pretending to be scientists they are real physicians,doctors and they are not creationists can you explain this?
zappatone 3 years ago
i want to vomit
daverez 4 years ago
Here is how the theory of evolution works:
I see two cars, and they are similar in every aspects. I hypothesize that one of the car gave birth to the other car. Of course this happy long ago so, it is The Evolution of Cars.
youtubbinh 4 years ago
Have you ever oserved reproduction of cars ?
borstern 4 years ago
No thats how christians who dont know what evolution is or lie to say somthing stupid to try and make excuses for the bible and the almighty god it it. Then how do you explaing where god came from, since it was impossible for man to evolve. Thats even more improbable.
TheBigGameHunter1 4 years ago
maybe these systems seem so "complex" because we try to see them through the models created by us to explain nature (math, physics, whatever). maybe the true workings of nature we don't understand yet...and when we do these systems will seem logical rather than having to explain them by suggesting someone had to sit down and design them specifically
amarnamriju 4 years ago
" these system will seem logical rather than having to explain them by suggesting someone had to sit down and design them specifically"
But the very fact that it is logical DEMAND explaination. All logic is the product of intellegence you see.
youtubbinh 4 years ago
i guess i shouldn't have used the word logical. i meant there exists a point of view (we have or haven't found it yet) through which it will seem simple enough so that we do not have to give up and admit that it was a supernatural act. (just to let you know...this is just my belief...if you believe in god i've no intention to convince you otherwise...)
amarnamriju 4 years ago
how about this , god exists outside of time-space, hence "infinate" but matter and energy cannot exist outside of time-space, this is a theoretical law, so god is not energy or matter, the only truely measurable constants of this universe, there for god= nothing and the belief in god is a delusion. quid pro quo.
alianchild 4 years ago
you have 2 choices; either everything came from nothing (which is impossible), or something always existed and created us. You have no other choice. Take a moment to think about that.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
So "something from nothing" is impossible, eh?
Well...
Particles pop in and out of existence all the time. Not only do they pop in and out of existence, but they occasionally appear in two different places at once.
Ask ANY physicist. "Something from nothing" happens over and over EVERY SECOND.
Now, if we had a universe that was only subject to the laws of relativity, you would be correct, but we don't. There are two forces relativity doesn't even address.
qabala 4 years ago
Why not? Everything might have come from the last universe, in an infinite cycle of universes, for instance. To say that there are only two choices is wildly nonsensical.
And to take the intelligence argument: "Something came from nothing because a magic man (who happened to look exactly like us) magically zapped it into being". Does that not sound remotely incredible to you? Its just the same argument with bullshit about a wizard thrown in. I'll take the non-wizard option, I think.
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
as it is with life,and when they use this argument, it is a falicy, life by chance is not science,life is not out of nowhere, basic chemicals were present, and add a static electric charge and you get the protenes for the dna chain and when you get a billion times a billion of them all bumping againsed eachother you invairiably get a chain, and bingo, life. cont.
xonuffloveox 4 years ago
I agree with the fact that coincidence can't possibly give rise to the diversity of life. The chances against it are staggeringly high.
BUT EVOLUTION DOESN'T FUCKING WORK BY MERE COINCIDENCE!!
AAAAAAARGH!!
Natural selection! Natural selection! Natural selection! Natural selection!
If you can truly show anything to be irreducibly complex, it would undermine the whole of modern biology. We're talking instant Nobel Prize, here.
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
lier that what your text book teachers have been
teaching in american school for several years now. they teach that bye random chances and coincidences and bye hundred of millions years of random events just and coincidences.
DONT LIE TO ME.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
Why is it the zealots are always the ones with the poorest grasp of English? Correlation maybe?
However, if you actually READ any of the textbooks about which you purport to know so much, you'd know that not a single one says anything about evolution happening by random chance. Read my lips (or text. Whatever): NATURAL SELECTION. Natural selection is not chance, and, if you bother to read a textbook, you'll find it says a lot about it, unless you're reading the First Grader's Guide To Science.
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
im not going to argue with you alright , your evolutionist darwinst athiest have been teaching
that shit in school for a long time , natural selection is still a random chance factor in which your people have been teaching.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
"natural selection is still a random chance factor"
No, natural selection really isn't chance. Really. Read one of the textbooks you claim to know all about before saying what's in them. Its not chance and I don't know what else to say that can convince you if you aren't prepared to actually read.
The clue should really be the word "selection". Since when has selection, in any context, been random? I think you'll find that when you select for something, you're very definitely not being random.
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
ok dude relax, we are dealing with people who, if the bible said so, would believe giant chickens made of nosehair and natchos inhabited the crators of volcanos, and you could have pics of all crators around the world prooving that no such creachur existed and they would say " they are all hideing"
alianchild 4 years ago
This is becoming evident. It would be really nice, though, if once, just once, they understood what they were attacking, and made valid cases for why it isn't right. If they just once read... a book. Well, except THAT book :P
But to be so mind bogglingly (to borrow from Kent Hovind) dumb-on-purpose, it vexes and horrifies me.
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
Yeahh!, at the end God will show his power and evolutionist will fell real shame.
gerzatubo 4 years ago
The religions are dangerous fairytales!
Long live Darwin!
The evolution is true!
tribun12345 4 years ago
I believe God is the Creator.
dejahthoris 4 years ago
and the moon is made of green cheese. you butthead!
alianchild 4 years ago
ah go throw youself down a well or something.
you wanna see how stupid you sound, the big bang for example you guys are basicly saying that first there was nothing and then it just exploded. does that make any sense to you?
to me using logic not only does that sound ridiculous but it belong in the fiction .
there had never been an explosion ive seen where is causes order, explosions in reality cause chaos , destruction, and degeneration.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
well it seems you dont even know what the big bang theory meens, if you are going to try to debate you should know what you are talking about, and you surely dont. and i would like an example of your idea of logic, so tell me do you believe in god, and tell me the logic that proves it, i bet its not logic, just blind conjecture. but please tell me.
alianchild 4 years ago
its not blind conjeture, realy .
using logic lets take the universes and the watch for example in comparison both have many complex parts that work together to form a functional system and both also exist and have an origin , the watch was made from the watch maker with his parts and his design and so is the universe and that it was made from a bye someone. to say that a watch came bye chance just appear out of nowhere spontaneously would be ridiculous .
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
Well apart from the watch analogy being flawed, I'm just going to say that the idea of the Big Bang as a huge explosion is something of a misconception. It wasn't a Hollywood "BOOM!", more a rapid expansion of space time - from whence, we haven't the first idea. Stick God in there if it makes you happy. During this first expansion, it is conjectured that ripples formed, allowing gravity to do its thing and clump matter together into nebulae and then stars.
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
your talking about cosmic evolution or big bang which has never been observed and theres no way to proof that it happened so it is not science, its nothing more mere speculation.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
It is speculation which happens to be supported by all the evidence we have. Really that's all any scientific theory is. Gravity is nothing but speculation based on the evidence of falling and orbits and stuff. Would you like to take the "religion" of gravity out of schools too? How about the speculative "religion" of medicine out of hospitals?
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
oh yeah what evident where is it?
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
The current universe is expanding (identified by the red Doppler shift of stars and universe we observe). Take that back in time to its logical end and the big bang seems an inevitable conclusion.
Also, the galaxies in the universe seem to be arranged in clusters, web like strands throughout the universe. This is strong evidence of the "ripples" I was talking about earlier.
Also, the background radiation and temperature of the universe point towards some kind of big bang event.
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
your theory is not science you say that the universe big bang started ever thing well tell me where did the big bang come from? and then your going to tell me that it came from nothing.
that makes no sense nothing is going to make nothing. even in mathematics nothing is going to make nothing 0+0=0.
I say your theory of evolution could be compared to a fairy tail.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
Its weird, I know, but the fact remains its the best theory we have at the time. I quite like brane theory's explanation of the origin of the universe, though there are a couple. "The collision of two oscillating branes caused our universe to exist in the intersection" is the gist.
We don't make claims to *know* how it happened, but its what the evidence points to. You can stick God in at the big bang if you like. Though I think its a cop out.
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
like ive said before there is no shred of evidence to proof the big bang. you have to two choices (1)you can choose to say that the universe made it self even though you evolutionist do not have an outside energy for the big bang since the universe is a closed system. or (2) you could choose to believe that the universe was made by purposeful intelligents.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
You mean apart from the background radiation, the arrangement of galaxies in the universe...
Everything we see confirms the big bang and that the universe is 13 and a bit billion years old. Why the big bang happened is a bit of a mystery, I admit, but can't you see that its such a poor cop out to jump to the conclusion that god did it?
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
you Darwinist say that the big bang collected all the matter in the universe into one dot, and they say that dot was spinning. is that correct?
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
Spinning?
No science textbook says that.
If the singularity was spinning, it would have to be spinning in relation to something else. Nothing else existed, so no, it was not spinning by any rational definition.
qabala 4 years ago
Incidentally, why do I always see creationists making this argument?
Is it a strawman for you to knock down by misapplying the law of conservation of angular momentum?
The only people I've EVER heard propose that the singularity was spinning are creationists. Please tell me you have a reference for this.
qabala 4 years ago
that the thing you people have no evidence, gravity is not speculated the invisible force of gravity has been observe and tested we know how it works.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
Well, you're almost right.
We have at least two, perhaps three, potential theories of how gravity works, but they all contradict each other and are each only partially correct.
The only thing we know for sure about gravity is that it certainly exists and it is very weak compared to the other three fundamental forces.
Evolution is also observed to occur and is occurring. What is theoretical is how it works, and where individual lineages converge.
qabala 4 years ago
as it is with life,and when they use this argument, it is a falicy, life by chance is not science,life is not out of nowhere, basic chemicals were present, and add a static electric charge and you get the protenes for the dna chain and when you get a billion times a billion of them all bumping againsed eachother you invairiably get a chain, and bingo, life. cont.
xonuffloveox 4 years ago
it realy is not so difficult to find the data, look for it, i do not think you are stupid, i just think you have been steared away from the real scientific info, all arguments about irreducible complexity have ben laid to rest so far i.c.omplexity duz not exist, so no dice on that one.
xonuffloveox 4 years ago
these seem to have been mixed up , but read them together and reverse them to get it.
xonuffloveox 4 years ago
also mathimatitions can proof mathematically
the theory of evolution is a joke.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
how about this for example : sir fred deuel
(I cant spell his last name) a British mathematician using a super computer tried to estimate only the proteins of an ameoba
2000 of them arising bye chance, he estimated that the probability of an ameoba arising by chance is 1 chance in 10 to the 40,000 power
which is absurdly small.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
Yes, its rather a shame he was doing the wrong sum. How many times must I explain this to you, evolution is NOT CHANCE! Even an amoeba has been evolving for ages, and is a terribly complex system. The first "life" was probably a single small amino acid molecule, which could self replicate. But now we're dangerously close to veering off the topic of evolution once again.
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
In fact abiogenesis happening at all must necessarily be fairly unlikely, because as far as we know, it only happened once on this planet.
But look at the Hubble Ultra Deep Field image, full of galaxies, themselves full of billions stars, and you get an idea that even one in a billion is fairly likely given the number of planets there must be.
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
Sir Fred HOYLE calculated the chances for the spontaneous generation of proteins for an amoeba, huh?
Of course, the amoeba genome is over 100 times the size of a human, so it's all downhill from there, isn't it?
Before you decide to claim abiogenesis is impossible, please tell me where you draw the line between living and non-living things.
qabala 4 years ago
every single example in this video CAN be explained by evolution.
Creationism=(Ignorance, inabillity to accept the truth)
dlam9265 5 years ago
EVOLUTION=(ignorance,stupidity,nonsense,lies)
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
i think you meen creationism=(ignorance, stupidity, nonsense, lies and a delusion that an imaginary being exists) wow you should realy check your facts befor you post stuff or people will think you're stupid, and you are welcome for pointing out you're screw up , no need to say thank you, helping is thanks enuf.
alianchild 4 years ago
If you believe that all this wonder full creation came from an explotion u dont have enough brain to think...
samijee 5 years ago
And if you spell 'explosion' as 'exlotion', then you don't even have enough brain to be knowing what you are talking about.
rekabetan 5 years ago
YEP THATS i DEFINITELY agree with you.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
The big bang was not an explosion. It was the rapid expansion of space-time. Your notion of an explosion being the source of the universe is completely erroneous.
qabala 4 years ago 2
then how about not calliing it the big bang anymore because big bang tells me explosion. and
even if its wrapid expansion its still an explosion and its still false and phony theory that belongs only in science fiction. and you people have no evidence of its and because you have nothing tangible realy your belief in the theory of evolution is realy a religious one.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
I like how we're talking about the big bang and then you just sneak evolution into it as if they're the same. Can we at least stick to one field of science?
You're right about the big bang, to a degree - Its still a touchy subject and we really don't know if that's what happened or not. It is, however, the best current theory, for which we do have some evidence (like the universe today expanding, background radiation etc).
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
correction the big bang theory is also called
cosmic evolution which the same thing with evolution. also if you study second law of thermodynamics which is the law of entropy:which
states that as time advances the universe becomes less ordered ,over time all systems left on there own proceed towards a direct from order to disorder.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
Why do so many creationists misquote the 2nd Law?
"The entropy of an isolated system which is not in equilibrium will tend to increase over time, approaching a maximum value at equilibrium."
The problem with your post is that: (A) Earth is not an isolated system, nor is the universe determined to be, (B) The law says nothing about proceeding from order to disorder, but rather predicts an overall increase in entropy and (C) Below the Planck scale EVERYTHING is random, anyway.
qabala 4 years ago
Exactly what I was going to say. Only I would have said that as far as we know the universe is a closed system. As far as we know, that is. Even that doesn't change the wrongness of Jos though. :)
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
As far as I have read, the universe can be determined to be neither open, nor closed through any empirical means.
However, the only theory of which I'm aware that makes any speculation on this is M-theory. I tend to think of M-theory as blurring the line between science and philosophy/religion, but it does predict an OPEN universe.
qabala 4 years ago
I stand corrected.
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
Well, not exactly. Like I said, M-theory can't be experimented with, so really, it's anyones guess whether the universe is open or closed.
At best, you stand questioned.
qabala 4 years ago
I meant about not knowing one way or the other more than M-Theory :P
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
bullshit your lier , I do not miss quote the 2nd law , its you who is misquoting . the second law of thermodynamics is the law of entropy you idiot. now the second law allows you to increase in order like a baby
grow up into an adult or seed into a tree , but if and only if you have an outside energy source and harnessing mechanism to capture that energy which you evolutionist do not have.you must be some kind of idiot,entropy states that as time advances universe become less ordered.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
Please cite the 2nd law according to science, not a bouillion cube version of it.
I got my definition from a basic chemistry book, where did you get yours?
qabala 4 years ago
that what you call a bad text book.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
Does this indicate that you don't have the scientific definition of the 2nd law?
Seriously, cite any scientific textbook regarding the definition of the 2nd law. Your definition is NOT the scientific definition.
But hey, I'm hoping other readers will look it up themselves. Anyone else can look it up and see you are either in denial, or just plain lazy.
You do more to hurt than help the faith. I hope you're proud of yourself.
qabala 4 years ago
also the problem with your theory is that it is not science. its a fairy tail .
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
It was Sir Fred Hoyle, who disagreed with the theory, that named it "The Big Bang" as a derogatory term. Take it up with him... although he's dead.
Incidentally, it was a catholic priest name Georges Lemaitre who first came up with the theory that came to be called "the Big Bang".
Wierd. Isn't it?
qabala 4 years ago
and for you evolutionist there is no outside energy, so the second law is absolutely contradictory to the big bang theory.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
What does the second law have to do with the big bang?
qabala 4 years ago
If anything, it would confirm what you think the second law is. A singularity would be extreme order. A sudden rapid expansion would then be extreme disorder.
Order to disorder, just like you falsely predict, yes?
qabala 4 years ago
No outside energy? Oh really? Tell me how you know so much about the exterior of the universe, when, as Qabala quite rightly pointed out, no current theory really makes any prediction on that score. Could it be we're actually talking to GOD?! :O
On a serious note, its immaterial since cosmic evolution doesn't really violate the theory. Everything might tend towards entropy, but that doesn't mean you can't have temporary order in the interim, and you're forgetting forces like gravity.
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
I know enough to know that the universe is a closed system. cause logically if the universe is a closed system then I dont see how the big bang could have come to be , without an outside energy source to cause the explosion you have no big bang.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
So we research, come up with better theories, and try to come up with a better understanding of the universe. Just because something is unexplainable right now - and I'll hand it to you that the origin of the big bang is, for the moment - doesn't mean it always will be, nor should we just give up and say "it must be God". That's so defeatist and removes so much majesty from the world.
paulbottomley42 4 years ago
There is no empirical nor logistical knowledge that can determine whether the universe is closed or open, but once again, M-Theory proposes that the universe is open and floats amongst infinite other universes in 11 dimensional hyperspace.
qabala 4 years ago
i see. the universe started out as samll as this period. life on earth started out as a little cell. and creationists are ignorant. you say creationists believe in god cus it makes them feel safe, but you never stop to think that you dont like creationists cus you dont want to be held accountable or responsible. the truth is staring you down but you still deny it.
KingsloseCrowns 5 years ago
Ahhh. So you can read minds?
Isn't that forbidden by god?
qabala 4 years ago
"It is impossible for this design to be the product of 'chance' as Darwin's theory of evolution maintains."
... uhh... Evolution is about natural selection. Key word here is SELECTION which is the very OPPOSITE of chance.
Study evolution... please.
Bekll 5 years ago
fleetofauirbitches, he knows what natural selection is, but what the guy in this video is talking about is irreducibly complex systems, where it requires every single part of the system to function at the right time, place ect. ect. if each part of the system developed over time, then the system would fail and would be fatal to the animal and (in some cases)would wipe the whole species out.
famousmanbearpig 5 years ago
this guy explained it perfectly thank you.
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
yup he explained a perfect lie.
alianchild 4 years ago
like your religion of evolution?
josueanthonylpz 4 years ago
ever heard of natural selection? of course not, because that would require brainpower. XD
fleetofauirbitches 5 years ago
EXCELLENT!!!! THE TRUTH!!
JCAYALA77 5 years ago
1 star = Poor
superfisto 5 years ago
Then why are their extinct species?
cfrhoar 5 years ago
Because I am to ignorant to understand something it must not be understandable and therefore must be the result of god. For my ego is too grand to imagine that others are capable of understanding truths that I am not. Is thunder still god bowling and lightning the spears of Zeus? Is disease still the result of evil spirits? Willful ignorance is an infection perpetuated by lies.
cdk007 5 years ago
I was going to leave a comment, but after reading this, I realized all that needed to be said about this video has already been said. Well put cdk007.
rekabetan 5 years ago
ditto. whoever read this out is a moron. what's all this about coincidences? they're easily explainable, you just cant get your head around it. science explains them and when they're right they cant be proven wrong! you should try reading a book written in this millenium you fossil. rather than trying to explain everything away with fictional Gods - follow the facts and the world will fill with more wonder :D
JohnaldChaffinch 5 years ago