Drivers Republic - Driving Techniques - Controlling a FWD car with Martin Rowe

[jrdxx]

The best FWD is the megane RS trophy

[BabyShowerStuffcom]

Loved it...

[soldier0fsalvation]

cant hear what they say!!!!!!!!!!

[HelmetReality]

I'm surprised you are both not wearing HELMETS!!!

[Cytacon]

@HelmetReality Are you another safety freak?. You probably wear a helmet while taking a shit.

[tcpwrap]

@Cytacon I doubt he would want to wear a helmet while talking....

[Cytacon]

@tcpwrap He wears a helmet all the time, seriously.

[mrnineinchnail]

that was f*ckin great!

[seequeify]

I didnt know steve jobs knew how to drift???

[revo75]

2 people are stuck on bicycles and scooters.

[apexdna]

Proves again that in reality the drivetrain layout has very little to do with the actual handling of the car...both type of cars can understeer from factory, and can be set up for oversteer. Think of tire pressures, you can either have the front deflated and rear overinflated or vice versa, the effect is very similar. Same thing goes for spring rate bias, sway bar thickness, shock rebound & camber adjustments, etc.

[blukper]

Really Good! Thanks!

[wwwopethin]

I wish they had done something about so much noise from the exhaust. Can barely hear them :(

[apexdna]

@wwwopethin What exhaust? Ever driven a proper car before? They have less sound deadening for the sake of weight savings.

[Detoyato]

BTCC proves that FWD is > RWD if they are completely evenly matched in weight, suspension, Power. Tho they work best when the car is as light as possible..

[apexdna]

@Detoyato That's because an FF can push way farther than any FR ever could on high speed corners.

[Detoyato]

@apexdna And are safer and more predictable at the limit... It also counts to the fact that RWD's are inherently unstable resulting in a Spin on almost every sort of contact (BTCC is prone to having those).

Acceleration really is the only thing an FWD loses to RWD.

And thats why Im a fan of AWD XD

[apexdna]

@Detoyato AWD is nice, but FFs/FRs w/o electronic gizmos are more rewarding i.e. raw if you will...

[gloom2]

no sound?

[Cre8Thought41]

Remember, FWD the car pulls you through corners. RWD car pushes you.  Takes some getting used to when going from RWD to FWD especially on a track or doing a high performance driving track day. Cheers.

[F1Oversteer]

Great vid, thanks for the upload

[baseballplayer2600]

fwd ftl

[poop4256]

@baseballplayer2600 look up peugeot 306 maxi. fwd rally car that beat awd on tarmac. n/a 200hp

[apexdna]

@baseballplayer2600 Whatever, you silly drift fanboy.

[poop4256]

before i even saw the car i knew it was a honda. VTECCC

[james86d]

@poop4256 nothing to do with spoiler half way up the rear window???

[poop4256]

@james86d lots of cars have a wing like that. supra, evo, sti and others

[Pendemic]

God this civic is so loud!

[murasame03]

Show me the foot!!!

[Adam44516]

good video since most cars are FWD.

[cycoboy817]

So this car changes colors?



[fifiks]

is it just me or Martin Rowe looks a bit like Armin van Buuren

[Talybanu88]

You are the best !

[guestfromhell10]

ever since i saw this video for the first time, I tried to drift my fwd lancer.The more i try, the more i think this is impossible.I can left foot brake but the back of the car just doesn't slide... :((((

[sikkony]

@guestfromhell10 I think the main factors in making a successful FWD drift is your turning path you have chosen, the throttle and braking timing. You have to know the corner well as well. Most importantly (and dangerously), you need to enter into the corner faster than what you can turn normally (over speed).

You don't need to use left foot braking to do the drift too.

[sikkony]

@sikkony I forgot to also add, I think the type of suspension setup is crucial too. A civic type R etc has very stiff suspension, so rolling effects are minimal, compared to that of a standard family car etc. The more roll you have, the less you will be able to drift/slide, and the higher the chance of understeer.

[guestfromhell10]

@sikkony ooo i think this is the problem.my car has really soft suspensions.It understeers a lot.It understeers even on hard braking in a corner...I think i will try this in a more tighter corner and come with a bigger speed.I am trying to learn to control this weight transfer without crashing the care so i have to learn it little by little and it takes longer...but it's safer this way :D.So thanks for the advice,it helped me a lot!!

[Riberaberubu]

@sikkony I would belive you if it wasn´t for the fact that I drive an old Saab V4 -69 which is the most narrow car in sweden, plus its got as soft suspension as you can imagine, and its the best car for left foot braking ive ever driven, because theres no program that runs the motor its just gas, explosions and a lunatic controlling it all, so if you want a pure rally-car for left foot braking, go for the beautiful Saab 96 V4 :)

[stankylittleangus]

@guestfromhell10

Did you try countersteering in the opposite direction before you throw the car into the drift? It creates a stronger inertia and throws the car oversteering better.

[guestfromhell10]

@stankylittleangus I am a bit...afraid :D to try and swing the car with a scandinavian flick.i will try it on snow because u don't need a lot of speed and it's safer without big speeds but on wet road i am afraid i am going to lose the control after the flick...By the way in my country i don't have a track where i can practice this and i am trying everything in supermarket car park...in the middle of the night...it's the safest place i could find...

[stankylittleangus]

@guestfromhell10

Haha yeah I do the same thing, I live in a small town so parking lots or dirt roads is all I have. Martin Rowe says in this video you want to get the front of the car good and turning, and you really need to use the brakes to transfer weight to the front and lift it off the back which can then drift on the pavement better. So come in with a little over speed, start the turn, and brake once you're turning to get that weight off the back tires. Good luck man, be safe.

[miksulder]

fwd is really shit and the axels are like my finger

[apexdna]

@miksulder Sicking up your ass...

[mhtsos12]

This vid should get more views.Useful stuff...

[santclause1]

Clarkson says this car don,t handle.lol i say he,s a fucking muppet who could learn a thing or two from these guy,s.

[evilcobra]

@santclause1

he was saying the new type r handled like crap compared to the old one, which is true.

[santclause1]

@evilcobra. i,ve owned both and it,s bollocks. FN2 is about front end precision not rear end adjustability. but if you know what your doing [ like this guy ] it,s just as good if not better than ep3. clarkson knows shit. so stop being a lamb and grow your own bollocks and think for yourself.

[fifiks]

That driver looks like Armin Van Buuren............. a bit

[likess]

This video help me understand the fwd techniques.. thanks for the vid posting.. I have recently bought a 98 integra, and im going to do some touge in it.. i have bought front strut bar, front lower tir bar and lowering springs, and later on alignment.. im pretty sure this honda will perform good on the sharp windy turn..

[Tsparkdriver]

@likess You need short dumpers. The old ones are too "slow" for the short springs so it will swim around.

[mrjost55]

wow that was awesome, I can't believe how calm they are while going 95+ through corners

[alamos8]

Great vid!

And the euro Type R seems better after viewing this! sound is really good

[Girz0r]

this is a good view!

[Preseh]

Thanks for this!

[motaz920]

great..thanks for uploading