Just reduce your approuch speed for the shorter runway length. If you need to get in very short, as you reach ground effect, slowly add power as you increace back pressure to slow down in the air. Focus on the far end of the runway and hold it off until the aircraft gets behind the power curve. With practice you'l be on the ground with a very short rollout.
@cessna170bdriver the best advise I got as a student was "look down the runway and try not to let the wheels touch the ground". Easy formula for greasers!
My 25 year old daughter was able to make her first unasisted landing on the very first try by using this method. I told her to make a 1500 RPM approuch focusing on the the numbers.Then fly along the runnway at 3ft. As I talked her in, I told her to pull the throttle back from 1500 RPM to idle as she raised the nose to fly along the runnway at 3ft. Then by focusing clear down to the far end of the runnway, I said "hold it off don't let it land!"Never once did I use the dreded word, flair!
thats all very fine on a long runway not on a 400metre runway where u have to get here down not waist runway flying along it at 3 feet agl, u wud smash into the trees at the end
I have a questions, if anyone can answer here. So after you have passed the cut off point, (approx 90 feet before your aim point), you begin flare, and then it looks like you're focusing on aim point 2. But what are you doing in regards to aim point 2 during your flare. Are you trying to slowly bring the nose to touch aim point 2 line of sight? Does your aircraft nose ever go above aim point 2? It also looks like the aim point 2 was closer first & than it moved farther. Can you please elaborate.
@rajsingh0621 While focusing on aim point 2 you are flaring and simply pulling back on the yoke with a lot of pressure. The plane will continue to slow down and then eventually lower to the ground for touchdown. As far as aim point 2 moving -- I believe he means that you are just focusing on a point that is far down the runway. When I am landing, I stare at the end of the runway while flaring. His aim points are just in the middle of the runway.
@wcs4209 dont stare all tha way out wen u flare u wanna look not too close or too far. wen u adjust tha stick pressure to make it a smooth landing u can look 10 and 2 positions out tha windows to realize if your sink increases
@rajsingh0621 I think what he is doing is using aim point 2 to maintain centerline. Its not a really big deal on bigger runways but when you land on something narrower its nice to have had the practice.
Nice work very useful after 34 hours in a 172 sofar I can say am good at everything take off,approach but my landings/flare are not 100% this video has given Me some tips that I will try out during my next lesson
I have never subscribed to the old adage that a good landing is one you can walk away from. A good landing starts with a basic understanding of geometry and when applied to a proper landing technique consistent landings will result. The Jacobson Flare can be used on ANY aircraft type. It is very difficult to get to high or low and it takes the guess work out of the flare.
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. Any landing where you can walk away AND actually use the aircraft again is a great landing. It was a great landing.
The landing technique is called the Jacobson Flare. On final the pilot controls speed with power and flight path with elevator. By keeping the aim point in a constant eye level position in the windscreen with elevator the aircraft will maintain a constant stabilised approach. The flare is commenced when the aircraft passes over a pre determined cut off point. The aircraft will flare at the same height every time leading to consistent and accurate landings.
What kind of technique are you referring to? I think you mean idle not cutoff for your markers... Also, that was a bit fast for a 172 landing. Nice of you to select your aim points to coincide with your actual landing...Perhaps you could try hitting the touchdown zone marker next time.
he was aiming at the touchdown zone marker...didn't say he was gonna land on 'em. he can land wherever he wants on the runway, some aim for the numbers, some don't
Just reduce your approuch speed for the shorter runway length. If you need to get in very short, as you reach ground effect, slowly add power as you increace back pressure to slow down in the air. Focus on the far end of the runway and hold it off until the aircraft gets behind the power curve. With practice you'l be on the ground with a very short rollout.
cessna170bdriver 3 weeks ago
jsmykal I could not agree with you more. You just said it with fewer words than I did.
cessna170bdriver 1 month ago
It's all about focus.
On approuch, focus on the numbers at the near end of the runnway. If they are rising add power. If they are decending decrease power.
After the round out, focus on the far end of the runnway and try not to let the airplane land. Try this. You may be pleasantly surprised!
If you want to make a bad landing, look down at the runnway directly in front of you.
If you want to make a good landing focus on the far end of the runnway.
cessna170bdriver 1 month ago
@cessna170bdriver the best advise I got as a student was "look down the runway and try not to let the wheels touch the ground". Easy formula for greasers!
jsmykal 1 month ago
My 25 year old daughter was able to make her first unasisted landing on the very first try by using this method. I told her to make a 1500 RPM approuch focusing on the the numbers.Then fly along the runnway at 3ft. As I talked her in, I told her to pull the throttle back from 1500 RPM to idle as she raised the nose to fly along the runnway at 3ft. Then by focusing clear down to the far end of the runnway, I said "hold it off don't let it land!"Never once did I use the dreded word, flair!
cessna170bdriver 1 month ago
@cessna170bdriver
thats all very fine on a long runway not on a 400metre runway where u have to get here down not waist runway flying along it at 3 feet agl, u wud smash into the trees at the end
charliechaser 3 weeks ago
@charliechaser That's why there are different techniques for short field and regular landings.
frizbean 4 days ago
THANX ALOT, how to break on Cessana ????, i Mean reservs ?!
miciex 1 month ago
@miciex you mean how to apply the break and stop a Cessna? well you use your toe breaks, It's hydraulic powered.
Blazingspitfire 1 month ago
Power and flap settings for downwind, base, and final? What is your final approach speed?
FacetiousJosh 1 year ago
good job, this is a very good landing technique....
raikkonen8 1 year ago
I have a questions, if anyone can answer here. So after you have passed the cut off point, (approx 90 feet before your aim point), you begin flare, and then it looks like you're focusing on aim point 2. But what are you doing in regards to aim point 2 during your flare. Are you trying to slowly bring the nose to touch aim point 2 line of sight? Does your aircraft nose ever go above aim point 2? It also looks like the aim point 2 was closer first & than it moved farther. Can you please elaborate.
rajsingh0621 1 year ago
@rajsingh0621 While focusing on aim point 2 you are flaring and simply pulling back on the yoke with a lot of pressure. The plane will continue to slow down and then eventually lower to the ground for touchdown. As far as aim point 2 moving -- I believe he means that you are just focusing on a point that is far down the runway. When I am landing, I stare at the end of the runway while flaring. His aim points are just in the middle of the runway.
wcs4209 1 year ago
@wcs4209 dont stare all tha way out wen u flare u wanna look not too close or too far. wen u adjust tha stick pressure to make it a smooth landing u can look 10 and 2 positions out tha windows to realize if your sink increases
kickass5 1 year ago
@rajsingh0621 I think what he is doing is using aim point 2 to maintain centerline. Its not a really big deal on bigger runways but when you land on something narrower its nice to have had the practice.
wyoryl 1 year ago
Nice work very useful after 34 hours in a 172 sofar I can say am good at everything take off,approach but my landings/flare are not 100% this video has given Me some tips that I will try out during my next lesson
CaptBesweri 1 year ago
I have never subscribed to the old adage that a good landing is one you can walk away from. A good landing starts with a basic understanding of geometry and when applied to a proper landing technique consistent landings will result. The Jacobson Flare can be used on ANY aircraft type. It is very difficult to get to high or low and it takes the guess work out of the flare.
liquidgold123 1 year ago
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. Any landing where you can walk away AND actually use the aircraft again is a great landing. It was a great landing.
bgcomer 1 year ago
The landing technique is called the Jacobson Flare. On final the pilot controls speed with power and flight path with elevator. By keeping the aim point in a constant eye level position in the windscreen with elevator the aircraft will maintain a constant stabilised approach. The flare is commenced when the aircraft passes over a pre determined cut off point. The aircraft will flare at the same height every time leading to consistent and accurate landings.
liquidgold123 2 years ago
that is quite funny, id write "landing technique" to all of my videos then. :D
skysurfer0805 2 years ago
What kind of technique are you referring to? I think you mean idle not cutoff for your markers... Also, that was a bit fast for a 172 landing. Nice of you to select your aim points to coincide with your actual landing...Perhaps you could try hitting the touchdown zone marker next time.
wurzzzz 3 years ago
he was aiming at the touchdown zone marker...didn't say he was gonna land on 'em. he can land wherever he wants on the runway, some aim for the numbers, some don't
you0are0an0idiot 3 years ago
The technique to land without the stall horn buzzing?
angelcruz373 4 years ago
if you turn up the speakers you can actually hear it go off
you0are0an0idiot 3 years ago