新加坡崛起秘辛(2/6)：新加坡艱困開國 小蔣幫大忙!

[daiwanpig]

台湾人最嫉妒的不是新加坡的财富，也不是廉洁。

而是新加坡能够脱离马来西亚而独立，但是台湾却无法渡独立。

[OgS83KzarP]

Come on... My Singapore fellows don't listen too hard on it. I personally think, the information r not exactly truth. The speech is overly vaunted.

[serhwee]

Wow Taiwan so great!!! 1st time hear that Taiwan help to build Singapore, keep on dreaming.........

[GORGEOUSGEORGE1100]

@serhwee read LKY.... yes Taiwan did help us so please ..... I am singaporean

[xiaohuis]

No harm listening to TW's show cuz everyone got their own point of view.

Just be more open I guess!

Nobody understands SG more other than Singaporean ourselves.

Because even if the foundation is laid but citizens don't bother to fight hard for the future, the country will not survive for too long.

[roy5349]

媒體人講話難免誇張,了解台灣媒體就不必太認真.....

[kagebunshin088]

这些台湾人越讲越夸张，，，

[kagebunshin088]

这些台湾人越讲越夸张，，，

[jshop2009]

Seriously, Singapore should thanks taiwan for helping us building our country. However, what we had now, is we who build it, is we who create it. .. So ya, carry on living in your past~

[Taytay123789]

WTF sia as if taiwan now very pro like tat since the pro ppl go to Singapore n there should be alot of pro ppl now in taiwan rite?

[Taytay123789]

WTF sia

[ctsncts]

新加坡人不能发华语留言吗？李光耀没教你们中文？不能把自己的语­言弄好，。。。收山吧！！！

[jshop2009]

@ctsncts 不是不发，只是英文比较方便！毕竟第一语言是英文！请不要攻击语­言。。。。。。 谢谢。

[yong890526]

diuniama!! Taiwanese bull shiting. u all juz a guard dog of american...

[hELLOjackli]

侯永昌;1923年在新加坡出生的華裔，[1]尹崇豪的兒子酒店­老闆誰遷移到馬六甲，英屬馬來亞。[2]豪收到了他在聖弗朗西斯­的早期教育機構在馬六甲1933年至40年，曾經是同學和部長內­閣資政李光耀在新加坡萊佛士書院。[3]他畢業於一榮譽文學士經­濟學從新加坡馬來亞大學（現為新加坡國立大學）於 1953年。 他媽的台灣 ,請不要胡說八道，歪曲我們的歷史.你們都只是一個無國籍人士，­這就是為什麼聯合國不承認猴子



[gn02975040]

@hELLOjackli 不用那麼生氣吧= =節目而已

雖然你罵我們猴子但我不生氣!

不要為了一個節目??就討厭台灣??新加坡人很多都是說福建話的­跟台灣是兄弟~不要為了小小的東西來破壞感情

[shaokwang]

full of shit

[Lu5ck]

go check up sg history....

school's history text are always pro-government

[RayTanZL]

Taiwan say lyk without them SG will die ...

[tbmtc]

@Yahyabudilimawan I would like to ask a question, are you a malaysian chinese? What nonsense is it? Not every Singaporean are so snobbish as you said.

[Yahyabudilimawan]

i'm a malaysian.. ur r right the taiwanese might nt be so generous.... but i knw tht singapore had been looking down on malaysian chinese.........

[lilaeya]

What the? Tai wan is definitely not the only country that helped.

[Glenhu123]

taiwan is full of shits...

i live in singapore and i nv know taiwan was so noble and generous to singapore

[solaris5655]

one "open" secret is Singapore's (israeli-upgraded) Centurion tanks are based in HuKou plateau. 13-15 tanks rotated from Singapore's underground inventory (possibly 63 total) through Port of KaoHsiung. ROC soldiers never exposed photographs of SAF's weaponry since 1975, even though they saw Centurion tanks for years. ROC's M60A3 and M24 Chaffee tanks used to park side-by-side SAF's Centurion tanks while waiting for their turn to live-fire at FengShan range. ROC kept Singapore's secrets.

[li345feng]

@solaris5655

That's very good relationship between two governments and two political parties until today.

[solaris5655]

Exercise Starlight indeed "covert" with generosity from ROC military. every SAF company or battalion flying to Taiwan does not need passport. they move quietly backdoor to chartered flight, no customs checking. once landed in Taiwan, similarly backdoor to awaiting ROC army trucks. again no customs checking. the trucks drove DIRECTLY into ROC army base, no MP checks. SAF soldiers change into ROC army uniforms, and even ROC MPs don't bother SAF personnel for their poor uniform turnout.

[limyisiang]

their talking rubbish.. our army is build by israel the whole SAF got nothing to do with them..

[li345feng]

@limyisiang

虚虚实实

实实虚虚

[mikeleekok]

100% discussions = 90% bullshits.. and they all just utter rubbish. yet claimed credits which are non exists.....sigh

[sushuh08]

sure they bull shit, Singapore recruit so many Malaysian Chinese Military personal to serve Singapore cause from 65 -70, if all like to say Singaporean KIa-Su these taiwanese are super How-Lian damn Ah Beng attitude, ..... puuuuit!

[alongthebluff]

They acquired AT-3 Malyutka anti tank missile from S. Africa, and Taiwanese reverse-engineered it and became Kun Wu 1 missile.

[kelleenlim]

There is certain truth to it...u shouldn't ignore the truth no matter who the next Boss CN

[peow188]

@kelleenlim

are you Singaporean ????

read more about singapore history

[mickeyNST]

新加坡只学了台湾的经济，却没有学到民主政治，这是最悲哀的地方­。不然就不会到现在一党独裁的样子，跟共产党相比或许也好不到非­常多的。。。但是他的经济仍然是值得所有人学习的。

[isayu134]

@mickeyNST not only economic, there are other areas too.

[engkhsky]

@mickeyNST 一党独裁还是很好啊

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[shtan101]

新加坡的第一任国防部长是吴庆瑞，他不是台弯人。新加坡国防的设­立是有以色列的帮忙。

[peow188]

@shtan101

they change ours singapore history

[honeyedhippo]

what's their problem??? they may have helped us in some ways. but they're just blowing up everything and saying singapore's success is owed to taiwanese!?? if so, then why is singapore's economy doing so much better than taiwan? why is our political system so much better than them? and our infrastructure? full of bullshit these people! wearing hats that dun fit their heads! lee kuan yew should just kick their asses and sue them! stupid people who cant see things properly. bullshit.

[markeeho]

@honeyedhippo 他們說的都是真的，過往的台灣有很多新加坡政府來參訪。新加坡的­軍隊也都在台灣訓練，在新加坡最困難的時候，台灣幫了一把。雖然­現再台灣跟新加坡比差了一些，但因為這裡是民主社會，政府不管做­什麼事情都會有反對聲浪。而且台灣太大了，又有許多天災。要像新­加坡那樣穩定發展是比較難，這也是不可否認的事情。

[mickeyNST]

@honeyedhippo Maybe the development of Singapore is better than Taiwan, but you actually can't say that they blew up the truth. Besides, I think the politics in the country is not far from the situation in China, you know that. Singapore just learnt the experience of economy but not politics.

[mikeleekok]

@honeyedhippo

What they are trying to tell their taiwan ppl that Singapore is "Made in Taiwan"

hahahhhahhaaaahhaaahha!

[thanksforyouruploads]

err... i think this is flawed...

the brit were giving singapore aid throughout the separation.

get your facts right.

taiwan came in so much later...

[moonlightaffairs]

sg and taiwan are old ally. so do sg and Israel. some sg army are still having training at taiwan until now. But Israel help sg to build up the armed forces. some of the 50 over yrs old sgporean will know, bcos they will trained by the Israelis. pls get the fact right.

[heinztzeng]

新加坡是有屌到哪裡去?

[spidermanandytan]

nonsense!... get their information right before saying lah... Later LKY sue those idiots...

[poptall2007]

Thank you very much Taiwan. :))

[poptall2007]

smiles & tells Taiwan, that's why I help U & U help me afterall regardless of nationality, we share d same bloodline. :D. agree? Old silly saying Our same bloodlines are always thicker than water and U are better than some1 i know especially those who told us Thank you very much straight 2 our face. this is where I know who are our friends, who are our clowns & who are our enemies? :)

Brotherhood & Friendship forever with Taiwan. =D hehe Live Long & Properous 2 all of us.

[TheNenenepupu]

erm...台灣人你們為什麼總愛往臉上貼金...通通都是台灣­派人去的???要是這樣的話,新加坡早就亂七八糟了...說這話­的有空去看看新加坡的交通吧!跟台灣的體制完全不同不同不同..­..ai..怎麼貼都還是台灣一個而已...你們不如改稱韓國好­了

[wuatoyuan]

@TheNenenepupu

这是真实的 李光耀回忆录有说到，但没说太多，因为有些涉及国际关系机密的敏­感问题。

[poptall2007]

haha Thank you very much,. LMAO...2 Lee Kuan Yew. haha

[FIIRE]

以色列helped singapore la .. stupid. dun be jealous .

[jyfireyj]

lol taiwan jealous singapore is rich o.o

[Thoma51987]

Wahaha isreal reject us!Anyhow...

[keagan29]

I hate it when people refer to Singapore as 鼻屎大, ....then Taiwan is what 屎?

hint of jealousy by the host.

[GORGEOUSGEORGE1100]

@keagan29 it's ok .... people can call singapore all kinds of names.... so long as we buld our nation and run it welll why bother right bro

[fugitivesq006]

Singapore acts as middleman for Taiwanese weapons!!!!!???? I laugh until I fall off my chair. Great jokes from Taiwanese talkshow.

[li345feng]

@fugitivesq006 Do you think Singapore Government tells us everything. All these better kept as secret. The show may be inflated a bit the claims. There's some background is quite true.

[kslow822]

fucking bullshit ~~~all these bloody stupid buggers

[woaiice]

哈 看美国discovery说 却是以色列帮他建立国防的哦

[lifey79]

This is like a comedy, no wonder Taiwanese can't tell what's good for them.

Get your facts right man!! This is just Taiwanese propaganda about how great Taiwanese are. Frankly, if you guys chose the right people perhaps you could have maintain your no.1 position in the 4 Asian Dragons. Now its just lagging far behind all because the media is brainwashing your minds and you can't tell fact from fiction anymore.

[li345feng]

@lifey79 My fellow Singaporeans, don't be too proud of ourselves. This is complacency.

[cplcwgoh]

taiwan and singapore are both anti communist,

but then Isreal and singapore are both surrounded by muslim countries...

[cplcwgoh]

yes, we got a lot of help from taiwan for starlight, but then we also got help from Isreal, and some other countries too....

[li345feng]

@cplcwgoh Very true.

[whatssogood]

instead of building a better relationship for our future generation.. this shows actually created too much false agony, and jealousy between sin, my and twn.. what is this prgm tryin to do? cmon wake up! what comes around goes around... be appreciative of what we all having now! PEACE!

[li345feng]

@whatssogood 2 or 3 months before Taiwan Presidential Election.

That's the reason to boast the chances of KMT's Ma.

[wincentchua]

all is rubbish!!!!

[antingting]

My, I think I shouldn't watch this anymore, it's skewed history!

[tsk298]

WAH TAIWAN SO NOBLE LEHS.. EVERYTHING EVERY STRATEGIES ARE FROM THEM!!!! WOO~ how come they have got all the strategies , but their country is still in this pathetic state? bullshit.

[drjnas]

ur motherfucking mind is totally fucked

[li345feng]

@tsk298 The answers are in clips 5 and 6.

[mingcai2008]

那里都要谈呆完之光。

[georgelei1573]

台湾人现在拼不过人家，就开始回忆，以前啊，我们多厉害，我们来­帮你，现在你怎么比我们厉害了。。。

好好反思反思自己啊，不要老说历史故事了。。。

[RotiBlata]

Yes .. Taiwan is bullshit lol .. they will stay as it is in the next few years.. wont progress.

[drjnas]

fuck singapore, east LA for life bitch

[ahyong11]

I think it is plain clear why S'pore had progressed from strength to strength while Taiwan had not improved in any ways compared to 10 years ago. First, their politicians are bullshit. Second, their media are bullshit. Thirdly, their citizens are only good at complaining and protesting. I am only sad that a program which had no element of truth at all can be broadcast to the unknowingly public. No offence but I seriously doubt that Taiwan can ever match up to S'pore in my lifetime.

[drjnas]

bunch of bullshit from your motherfucking bitchass mouth

[li345feng]

@ahyong11 View the clips 5 and 6. Some explanations were there to illustrate why today Singapore and Taiwan are so different. Enjoy it as entertainment

[fmh91]

so the whole s'pore is built up by u is taiwanese ppl....wah lao,thn s'pore wil be very corrupted liao!!!!bull shit...dun change history....if s'pore gt so thick relation wit taiwan,china wil be very angry with s'pore idiot!!!!

[fmh91]

the brown shirt guy at the start...i think u dunno abt s'pore hist bah,talks shit only!!!Isarel did help s'pore to build up our defense...botoh!!!and they sent ppl to train our army officer and soliders...IDIOT!!!!

[RotiBlata]

lol guess everyone know why some countrys cannot be well developed , because they are too proud of themselves

[li345feng]

@RotiBlata Taiwan is ahead of Singapore in 1970s. True fact. We also don't be too proud of ourselves that today Singapore is ahead of Taiwan.

[hydejing]

把這些精英都拉回來台灣幫忙啦 現在台灣耍白幕

[pennychau]

As a people from Hong Kong, i have to say that taiwanese cannot say they are not chinese ..... only know bull shit!!

[TaraQin]

Wah seh. Say until like tt. 无言. =.=

I nearly fall off my chair from laughin' at e numerous remarks of "也是台湾帮他建的"~~~

[wy880912]

those taiwanese are so cocky,sounds like da whole singapore is built by taiwan,bullshit.

[paradise1234]

veri biased towards taiwan! israel did help singapore in terms of structuring our national defense!their facts were skewed towards themselves!

[li345feng]

@wy880912

This may be true may not be true. The true fact is Lee and Jiang are in good terms at that time.

[iclk]

hey guys this is all bullshit i cant believe its on air LOL

[RotiBlata]

It's on air because on air in Taiwan ma.. where "pi sai" can be said on air too

[peow188]

Same as Japan,,,,,like to change history

事实上的历史不是这样的

[kelleenlim]

@peow188

[mle0ng]

Taiwanese Media really unreliable. Israel is the country that help develop the blue print for the Singapore Armed Forces - not Taiwan. Taiwan helps by providing training facility for its Artillery at cost. The speaker exaggerate too much

[MokoMokozzi]

有点受不了这个主持人！ 一直往'什么都是台湾帮新加坡建立的'方向去想! 政治哪有那么简单? 来宾们已多次纠正强调两国互利互保的关系 而且言语中也暗示了有很多内幕 但主持人似乎没有察觉 而且还不断重复强调新加坡是台湾帮助建设的 这是重点吗？ 这样就满意了啊？ 那直接做结论好啦！ 两国拥有怎样的合作关系才是有意义的内容吧？ 一个好的主持人会帮观众问想问的问题 但这段下来我只感到失望和懊恼 因为他错过了很多争强节目内容深度的机会 还好来宾们都满有料的也做足了功课 不然真的看不下去！ 主持人的程度希望能更高一点！！ 真的是浪费资源 ！！（指的是来宾分析后的结论 也是我看这节目的目的！）

[li345feng]

@MokoMokozzi 互惠互利是台湾新加坡在70s,80s的主轴

[ayaoeee]

really a bullshit..they just started ..but singapore was using the system under the england..

[raider2121]

Taiwan did gave us a great helping hand in our formative yrs but i guess the hosts hadd inflated the claims. We did not incorporate the English system lock, stock n barrel, we modified systems from all over the world to suit ourselves.

[li345feng]

@raider2121 ...i guess the hosts hadd inflated the claims..

Taiwanese Show. Inflated claims definitely.

[tcykly]

They mean out LTA is Made BY Taiwan??

[ahbeng]

india: thank you beri much

[mikeleekok]

@ahbeng

hahahaha....you mean thanks India for not helping S'pore...

if India were to watch this, then India will reason with these idiot speakers

[elynsoul]

bullshit.. might as well say singapore is build by taiwan.

boastful..

[04leeyuan]

wrong information by guests ,goh keng swee is 1st defend minister.Israel help singapore in built the army........................!!­!!

[Aric946]

新加坡青出於藍更勝藍 臺灣 臺灣真感傷.....