Does the bible teach eternal security? 1 of 3

[H1TM4NB00THY]

I pity people who have been indoctrinated into religion, and are ignorant from science. Which is actually USEFUL in making our world a better place.

[rusda2]

once saved always saved is false doctrine that is not found in the bible. If once saved always saved was true then Adam & Eve would never have been removed from Eden for their sin & we would not be in this situation now.

[preachinshawn]

rusda2

First you would have to give me your definition of 'once saved always saved'.

Being under the judgement of God, and the idea of losing one's salvation are very different things.

If being in Eden meant one was saved, than the serpent must have been saved because it was in Eden as well.

I hope you watched all 3 parts before answering (Proverbs 18:13).

[rusda2]

1. @preachinshawn u said: "the serpent must have been saved because it was in Eden as well".

u missed the point completely. Satan was already a lost sinner. Adam & Eve on the other hand had eternal life in Eden, but then, just like Lucifer did, they CHOSE to be lost by CHOOSING to sin. It is a CHOICE to be saved & CHOICE to be lost. We can always CHOOSE to walk away as Lucifer & Adam/Eve did.

No one can remove us from Gods hand...but thru choosing sin over God, WE can freely walk away.

[rusda2]

2. @preachinshawn the bible is very plain that we are always free to stay with God or to walk away. Hence, there is no such thing as once saved always saved.

I believe in Once saved always saved as long as you KEEP saved :)

[jbooks888]

Well, Jesus said the Father has us in His hand - and no one can pluck us out - then He said the he himself has us in his hand and no one can pluck us out.... what does this mean?

[preachinshawn]

jbooks888

I think it means that no human can bring us out of eternal life.That means ourselves as well as we are told:

"You are not your own; you were bought at a price." - 1 Corinthians 6:19-20

[jbooks888]

@preachinshawn Yes. And now I feel I have to say something very wise and insightful - but I don't have anything! But I do know that Jesus is faithful, God is faithful - he will finish the work he started in me. My prayer is that I don't do things that get in the way of God's working in me.

[preachinshawn]

How come?

[EWETUBER2]

It teaches "eternal salvation" to those who FAITH Jesus Christ..

It doesn't say everybody is going to Heaven though...sorry..!

[preachinshawn]

Of coarse, we must exercise faith.

[BERGERMAN1981]

This verse answers that question for me

2 Peter 2:21

For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.