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  • Fucking drummers...

  • I have the CD from this competition..he should've been the winner...NO QUESTION!!

  • Great guitarist but bad drummer!!!

  • Poor Muris. He was so disappointed after that 9/8 section. He looked like he didn't even care anymore.

  • Lol the drummer doesn't even seem to notice.

    

  • I'd like to know what hapened minutes after in backstage...

  • A good drummer can play hard songs. A mediocre drummer screws up in a hard song. A total loser gets totally lost in a song. You do the math, and then send this sorry fuck-up to flip burgers or do something he might learn, eventually, because he's hopelessly talentless when it comes to music and I see no reason why anyone would give him a break. If he can't swim, he shouldn't go in the water.

  • @gormarx Well.. Everyone's a critic. I ain't defending him, but saying he is hopelessly talentless is a rather stupid commentary, even IF you are, say, an exceptional good drummer/muscian yourself . If he was talentless, he would not be on that stage - for sure, and you know that. And if you are going to criticize, at least have the decency to do it in a constructive way.

  • @AlexGuitar1987 Yeah, let's praise everyone's talent now. Yeah, he can probably hold basic beats; you hit something unusual and he can't tell where he is. OK, granted - he's probably talented enough for, say, a Boney M cover band. And, by the way, even Britney uses drummers like Colaiuta, so I wouldn't hope for much given his talent. This IS constructive: he needs to find another job, unrelated with music. He's not good enough, and never will be - wasting time trying is what's not constructive.

  • @AlexGuitar1987 The important fact is that by biting WAY more than he can chew, he screwed up a performance by a truly talented guy. And now someone should go easy on him because in his greed and because of his bloated ego he got the job he wasn't up to? If he wants compassion and pity (which s what you seem to feel for him, too), he can go to his mommy and not mess up talented people's music.

  • @gormarx Well like I said I ain't defending, because I do believe he put Muris' song to shame. I suppose that's one of the reasons Muris wrote the 2009 song in strictly 4/4. And of course everyone can have their opinions - I just personally think it's a shame when music experts tell people what to do and what not to do on youtube. I have been in the business for some years and I know for a fact many talented musicians as well as amateurs. Surely everyone can make mistakes and if you lose track

  • @gormarx in a 9/8 beat, it's less likely you will get back into it as in a 4/4. The second I just wanted to say about having a bad or even extreme bad day as you may put it in this case is, unless you REALLY know this drummer and what else he has done / can do, it's pointless to comment on his general playing. But luckily for him and many pro musicians, they do NOT listen to the many experts on youtube - and in fact I wouldn't be healthy for their playing if they did :-) Good day, sir!

  • @AlexGuitar1987 Well, who knows. For me, odd meters are as natural as anything and playing them must not pose a challenge for a serious musician any more than a waltz would. Whether they should pay attention what people say... well, to each his own. Some comments can be useful others won't, but as for your boy, if U2 can qualify as musicians in your business, then he's going to be OK. Not everyone has to be good enough for Zappa, I suppose.

  • A good drummer can play hard songs. A mediocre drummer screws up in a hard song. You do the math, and then send this sorry loser to flip burgers or do something he might learn, eventually, because he's hopelessly talentless when it comes to music.

  • also this is an extremely hard song. so in combination with learning an ass load of songs you gotta learn a song this hard and maybe he doesnt even like this kind of music. as many have said its justa shame. for all musicians.

  • man you could tell muris what pretty pissed off, as a guitar player myself no guitar player like to hear his song butchered. when you write it and use drum tracks that never mess up and it sounds so good you want other people to hear it that good and for the drummer to mess it up like that, i'm not surprised one bit that muris was mad. i bet muris layed into him after it backstage.

    now imagine being that drummer and having to learn however many song it was im sure it was alot. thats hard.

  • drummer stop that !!!!!!!!!

  • LOL it all goes downhill after 1:00

  • Dudes give the drummer a break XD It is hard as hell to play like this :D Maybe stage fright who knows :D It's not like the drums for Steve Vai that is only keeping the rhythm. Anyway :D Great guitar player :D awesome song :D hope they can upload some practise videos :D

  • is there anywhere i can hear a non-fucked up version of this song?

  • @klaran

    See Junk Medley by Muris Varajic.

  • @grievous56 right, i remember that video. thanks man.

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  • Opcenito MRZIM "bubnjare" koji se smatraju bubnjarima a ne znaju 9/8 odsvirati .. i opcenito ko ne zna 7,9,11 osmina nek se prestane baviti tim poslom !! bubnjaru mrzim te ...

    A Murise tebi svaka cast uvijek smo uz tebe legendo .. ti si muzicar koji je klasa za sebe jos jednom svaka ti cast i sve najbolje ...

    cya

  • To miss is one thing,to miss and keep the mistake after realise you miss and keep on the mistake after rehearsals is a very stupid and rude attitude

    I am sure these guys rehearsed before this,everyone can notice that

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  • @liverpool5234 iz Tuzle je

  • toliko dobar gitarista a da ne zna izabrati bubnjara ........jel ga to nasao negdje povoljno u kineskoj prodavnici :))))

  • Cool. As for the drummer, it happens to the best of us... I recall many a time when I've been onstage, and my mind just blanked out, and i looked over at the chart & just got lost in the moment.. As a guitarist we can just stop playing when that happens, For a drummer, doesn't work that way. Was an interesting piece.. He's a great guitar player!

  • The drummer ain't bad.. I've listened to tons of musicians and I can definitly tell that he can play! He missed the 9/8 section totally yeah, BUT, just think if you made a mistake on stage and everyone pointed fingers at you and said you couldn't play. It's unfair you know. Fortunately most professionels don't listen to all the professor comments made by commen people on youtube..

  • @AlexGuitar1987 I think you are right. For the drummer, I'm sure he's really mad that he missed that too. Certainly Muris Varajic's piece was more complicated than most and it's just one of those things.

  • @AlexGuitar1987 Its Darren Ashford, tutor from the ICMP. He's a beast trust me.

  • @AlexGuitar1987 Good drummers don't get lost, not so ridiculously and hopelessly like this punk.

  • One more, the drummer is so fuckin' good (in his imaginary world) ... I think he was going to shit in his pants so badly, that's why he ruined the song ... badly ...

  • Why does it seem everybody can play guitar so amazingly now? ... Shit, I gotta dig my licks more!

  • drummer is bad! he ruined the excellent song!

  • this is awful

  • this is awful.

  • oh man that shithead drummer totally blewed up the whole song.

    asshead.

  • that song is sooooo booring

  • 0:53 - clever way to trill between two notes

  • Muris doesn't hate the drummer. He says we all make mistakes.

  • Brawo dla perkusisty wielkie brawa

  • he did not let drummer find him he kept shredding like crazy !

  • hahahaha, i like how he just walks back to the drummer to say like, come one man, whattafuck!? stay on beat n shi shi. hahaha, that guy shreds!

  • it's not fair. let him play with a fucking backtrack if that kid plays like an amputated. let the man deliver his stuff.

  • Who cares, really who cares!

  • lul @ Drummer D:! he need more practice to jam with muris=D

    Samo napred Murise=D

  • It's really painful just watching how things fell apart... I can't imagine how it felt being in Muris' shoes at that moment... But he kicked ass anyway... Go Muris!

    Murise, kidas! Samo napred! :)

  • i hate that drummer :D

  • not as much as Muris does ;)

  • @lauriemonk i will not disagree at all on that ... lol

    oh god... that dude should be end up dead!!! :P

  • @lauriemonk ha ha ha good one

  • i dont understnad why didnt they just simply left that part out if the drumer cant play it...and he obviously can not as we can see in the video

  • imo...i do not beliv dat drumer 4get dat part...he did in purpose... simply bec dis drumer is 1 hell of a gud drummer so dat is only my opinion...peace!!!!!

  • It sure sounds sweet on the disc, too bad the drummer had a brain fart.

  • @ drummer : shoot urself u ruined the whole power of the song.-.-

  • I think it is really a shame that the drummer (if it really was only the drummer) lost track during the song, because this is a really great song.

    However, I wouldn't yell at the drummer - shit happens. It's a shame though.

    I think that Muris is too technical and too good to ever be the Guitar Idol! =D

  • Po meni najbolji gitarista u BiH,steta sto je bubnjar usrao motku...

    Pozdrav iz Bihaca, Pečin...

  • What a f....shame...but really...Muris played great..,as always.Why the hell is 9/8 so hard to play?Drummer missed the sight reading class...horror

  • Very Joe Satrianiesque for sure. I like this guy best of all the contestants so far.

  • Very Vai, I think, especially the fast part

  • motherfuckers can't even pronounce his last name correctly...

    and the drummer... ?wtf?

  • 1:28 ahahah muris is very angry!

  • lol Muris just looks at the drummer like "you fucking suck"

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  • @Rikxa Hey, I'd be pissed off too, you know...

  • Kill the drummer plz XD

  • what a shame to the drummer.... muris must've used his own backtrack :(

  • Nice phrygian.

  • OMG, bubnjar upropastio cijelu skladbu :(

  • Jesus... This d(r)ummer can't play.

  • He can play everything.

  • Extreme Technical SlamGrind even??lol

  • maybe he is the best drummer in the UK but no live links what is Balkan music. the sins of many crossings

  • This drummer must learn how to count,really...

  • Not many good drummers in UK, hm ?

  • no there are plenty my friend when he was 11 did grade 8 he's now 15 and he's considered one of the best drummers in london much better than this guy

  • if he was one of best drummer he would easily adjust to song eaven if he just hearded song 5 minutes ago

  • Brate, ovaj bubnjar nije normalan, ja bih se ubio posle! Jebene 9/8 nije mogao da odsvira.

  • So that's why they changed the drummer in 2009

  • poor Muris, at least he got back into it towards the end :P

  • I love the fact everyone's ragging out on the drummer cos he fucked one song up... lol

    none of you ever made a mistake before? If you knew him, you'd realise he's one of the best damn players you're ever likely to see, he dropped the ball on this one but he's got his shit together.

  • it's just one of those things!

  • @dysfunctionaldave you've never seen the song the way it's supposed to be have you? i mean...he f@#$ muris in the butt....

  • @jareds1007 I listened to the original- no one's disputing Darren made a mess here. My point being, don't judge a guy on one performance. He had a lot of songs to play with little to no preparation- maybe there was an error in the score he was reading, who knows. Trust me, he's one of the best session players in UK.

    Check out Henry Gale 2007 by Dave Marks for one example of his playing. He certainly knows his stuff. Also, a point missed- well done Muris for holding it together.

  • @dysfunctionaldave i go both ways i guess...lol...i know he's good, i watched all the other good performances....but the best don't make mistakes like that....or do they...I don't know. good job for all of them pulling it back together..gustavo must have paid him off lol. Just kidding.

  • @dysfunctionaldave Riiiight... he's a great drummer on Tuesdays and Saturdays in the morning but clueless otherwise LOL

    A mistake is a bum note, maybe one bar of lost concentration. This guy is lost like a golf ball in a swamp; his sorry excuse of drumming brings the word "LOSER" in big, shining bright red letters to mind. I don't think I've ever heard a disaster like his playing before - and that includes some 5-year-olds in their make-believe band.

  • que pendejo el baterista fue el que lo hizo perder!!!!!! pero aun asi muris es muy bueno.

  • The Bass player continued with muris. it's the drummer, and sitll, muris and the bassman did a nice job until the end.

  • Mislim da nema veze to sto je bubnjar ujebo stvar na onoj dionici,to ni najmanje ne utjece na Murisov kvalitet nit ga osporava u bilo kom momentu.

    Pozdrav iz Bihaca!

  • Oh my god..poor Muris. He's such a great guitarist, pitty that it wsa the drums that f'd it up after getting so far

  • wow, he misses the beat and cant save it at all!?! it was totally savable, muris was still holding it down. that drummer should be f-ing fired. you just cant screw up like that. what a shame

  • and he did get fired

  • Drummer never look Muris when loose a complete part !!

  • truly awful drums

  • haha poor Muris.

  • ey bro if you can upload the live presentations of guitar idol 2009 =) cya

  • coming real soon.. now I'm back, expect them to appear over the next few days!

  • ok thank you so much =)

  • he doesnt pick the band. its a set band who have to learn a backing track before all the finalists take to the stage. but comon that drummer what the hell was he doing . u can see marius even telling him wtf . i would have hit him with the guitar.. awesome guitarist though check his youtube account

  • Total prog with the drummer. Nothing fits together. Madre mia. Muris, next time, pick the band carefully :P

  • wtf happend?

  • Drummer fucked up.

  • ufff sto te sjeba bubnjar ovde...... jbt.... mogu misliti kako si se osjecao.....

    jbg...

    veliki pozdrav iz BanjaLuke od Libertas benda i Srednje Muzicke Skole ``Vlado Milosevic`` (ucenika koji te poznaju)

  • Muris was so nice about it...most people would leave the stage...he didn't get a chance...but what a player!

  • he plays just like steve vai!

  • two words! steve vai!!

  • Where???? LOL

  • LOL! XD

    You´re great Muris, great style, technique, feeling. etc etc.

    Greetings from Argentina.

    Steve Vai its Steve Vai, Muris its Muris.

  • Wow, they need to make sure the band can actually play the music. It's a shame.

  • fucking embarrassing... it's such an easy backing. These guys couldn't play a Yes tune to save their lives

  • Yeah. I feel really bad for Muris.

    It's like the band was thinking: "Hmm, we can just sight read this and be good.... OH my god, what is happening?! Time change?! What?! Ah!"

  • it was change to 9/8.

  • ti si mi od sada omiljeni gitarista... jeeebem ti sunce,jedes tu gitaru :)

  • Do you have to use a band? Don't know the rules but had I been Muris I would have told the band to stop and done a great solo on his own. He has a great tune this year so I wish him good luck.

  • This band is shocking!!!!! He should have used a backing track instead. The drummer and bassist cant shuffle...struggle struggle...aaaah.

  • DObro, bubnjar se malo zajeb'o ali odlično su se momci na kraju snašli. Muris je odličan bendista, nije samo solista. Bravo.

  • Alal da ti e, bravo, Virtuoz. Nadevam se deka kje mozam i vo zivo da prosledam nekoj tvoj nastap...

    Pozdrav od Makedonija

  • what a pity!!im so sad rite now..with all the impressive work that muris done...oh my god..what a silly comment muris..i wasnt expectin that from you..what do u mean we didnt have enough time to practice...you r a very talented player..and u should know if u guys didnt have enoguh time to practice with that drummer then u should ve delay the show or somethin..plz dont be on a stage like this whithout practicin...cause u r awesome..

  • We couldn't canceled the show just because of my tune, there was 12 contests in total, not just me. :D

  • i see...thanks for replyin..

  • I feel for you Muris. I did a guitar festival in South Africa and I didn't get to rehearse with the band and everyone else did. I still did it though and it wasn't too bad. No originals though, thankfully, but I had to play with backing tracks, which sucked.

    Loving the new tune mate. Hope you get another chance.

    Good Luck

  • warden9000 picka ti materina mutava botu debilni sta si se okacio na covjeka mrs u rupu kakvu i javi se za 10 godina ako sta naucis povedi i bregu i lipovacu sa sobom mozda nesto nauce. Momak je beton i ti se nasao da pljujes po njemu gdje god stignes debilu jadni

  • Bubnjar je super odsviro al je muris sjebo pa fol nesta bubnjar nezna .Kako Zele ovo odsvira bez greske.Brega isto ovu pjesmu sviro '82 bez jedne greske ,nemojte svaljivati na bubnjara

  • Bubnjar koma, on nezna koji je ritam pjesme...Izgleda da nisu probali prije. Murisu svaka cast, zao mi sto ja nisam takav kao on, al bubnjar ko da po buretu svira...

  • Tako nekako :)

  • Jebiga sjebo se chovek na 9/8 ...jel tako beshe...:)

  • bubnjar je koma...stvarno tuzno pored ovakvog gitarista....

  • Thank you all for your kind comments,

    Darren ( drummer) is indeed fine player

    but we didn't have enough time to practice this tune

    enough and we all payed for that at the end. :)

  • Ma de ba Muris ga garant upozn'o sa nekom nasom curom a onaj nalet pozurio da odsvira. Cuo frajer kako nase prave pitu pa pozurio da ruca haha.

    Jbga neznam kako se Muris suzdrzo da odsvira svoj dio, mene bi izbacio kad je poceo mlatit po bubnjevima ko Velija po Merimi u Bice Bice haha. Ipak dobro je Muris odsvirao pored svega, vidi se klasa muzicara. Sve naj imenjak.

    For all you English speaking ppl, this comment is not completely translatable, hence.... no translation :)

    Good job Muris

  • Evo vec nekoliko dana svaki dan gledam na youtube Murisa kako svira. Odlican je gitarist i kompozitor. Zna li neko je li on objavio neki album i gdje se to moze nabaviti.

    Bubnjar je sve pokvario, da li namjerno ili slucajno ne znam, ali totalno je ispao.

  • Trazis album od bubnjariste jel? Izbacio je jedan album sad, ono a la Halid Beslic, kaze pravo mu sjeda sad nas balkanski ritam :) Zajebajem se... valjda si pogledao njegov kanal "murisv" a ako nisi jarane pogledaj tamo ces naci sve.. k'o sto kazu "moRes Honlajn uzet CD" xD

  • the drummer messed up pretty bad i think this is by far the best tune if only the band hadnt fuked up!

  • Nooo the drummer....

  • ...bubnjar je pogino,ti zivis boli te k...!!! hahaha

  • Covece ne mogu da verujem da na ovakvoj manifestaciji bude ovakav bubnjar... au strasno...

    Covece zakopao te strasno.... jbg... Veliki pozdrav... i svaka cast za muzikalnost...

  • it's a shame the drummer miss that entire part....you would prabably have won, this is a real and great composition, regardless the, anyway, amazing guitar playing..

  • So did your drummer eff it up at 1:07?

  • jedno je sto je pogrijesio, ali sto mu je trebalo pola minute da "dodje sebi" je druga stvar... u biti nije ni dosao sebi dok nije prosla sekvenca sa ritmom koji izgleda ni ne zna svirati... Murise respect!

  • hahaha... ko je ovaj bubnjar?

  • Yeah, tune is called Junk Medley,

    not Junk Melody. :D

  • The word is "melody" not medley: two different words.

  • no man, he means medley, not melody :)

  • jebiga..cudan je to za njih ritam ..

  • wow the drummer completely screwed it up for muris...I think Muris was by far the most advanced composer/player in that whole competition...he should've won.

    Congrats to Gustavo nonetheless, he's also a really good player.

  • yeah, i agree. it was a shame, he's a phenomenal player but at the same i can imagine the stress of the band having to play with all these different artists and learn all these songs.

  • I agree 100%, they needed more time for rehearsals and everything might be better. :)

  • He's a good player.. but weird composer... really desorientating... good technique though

  • Thanks but...you even heard of Medley? :D

  • Well... i'm saying about this song, it's kind of weird.. No offense, you're a great player but i think that on an instrumental song you should tell us a story.. Maybe the structure could be better.. In fact, that single point could put you in top three this year =D.. Just trying to help!

  • I'm also talking about song because it's not a song at all, it's medley made of different styles,genres etc.

    It's a melting pot, there is no structure

    like in regular songs.

    But I get your point, you like the songs. :D

  • Oh! got it... i believed that was the song name lol XDD... but the judges of 2008 agreed with me... so, there you go! I wish the best this year buddy, it's just some advice

  • Lol, don't tell me, some judges didn't even realize what happened, for them it DID sound confusing. :D

  • lol XDDDD

  • Ajoj bubnjara bi gitarom opalio u glavu,pa jel' on gluh totalno? Murise tebi svaka cast!!

  • svaka čast legendo.

  • Ja mislim da je ovo sto je bubnjar uradio smisljeno i sa losom namerom, ja zivim u Londonu dugo godina vec i znam ovdasnju politiku medju muzicarima

  • bubnjar je sranje... mislim da je najbolje da uzme neki stari zeleza pa da na niv lupa po celi dan... svaka cast Muris :)

  • Hvala ti puno. :)

  • heh dobro da nisi balkanca u sebi probudio i iscupao mu jaja na usta i zabio mu te stapice u guzicu...al care, svaka ti cast, sviras kao nitko nigdje...vjerovatno cu se prijavit na GMC samo zbg tvojih tutoriala...pozz

  • Srecom pa nisam od toga posla al istina,

    bio sam na ivici nervnog sloma u par navrata. :D

  • What the fuck are you talking about ? he plays everything ,you retard.

  • Not exactly,I know how to play Let It Be as well. ;)