Defending freedom and protecting the interests of thinly-veiled oil lobbyists who send us to war on flimsy intelligence are two very different things.
"Being a soldier isn't just following orders, it's following those orders in the service of a higher cause. When that cause is betrayed, we're not soldiers anymore - just pieces on a chess board dying for the wrong reason."
Now, the problem comes when people think that BYOB speaks out against the former as well as (or, worse, instead of) the latter. I repeat: In my opinion, Serj and Daron are much like Daron's own portrayal of Charles Manson. They're horrible people, but they have some good ideas and I don't see why some people hate them more than they hated George Bush. (Not saying I agree with Daron about Manson, though. :P)
What makes you think that the war in Afghanistan is a war for oil? Is it because the liberal, biased media tells you that it is? Last time I checked the U.S. doesn't buy oil from Afghanistan. I don't even think Afghanistan exports anything other than opium products, and our government certainly isn't buying that.
...I laugh at how pro-SOADs and anti-SOADs accuse each other of being unable to think for themselves. (Personally, I appreciate the work that they tried to do for peace, but it's obvious that Tankian and possibly Malakian only care about themselves.)
Still, reading these comments was enlightening... Well, some of them, anyway. The argument between omfg and Quickwit is, for example, absolutely pointless.
I am in an upper class family, and I am enlisting to fullfill my dream to become US Army Special Forces (Green Beret or Ranger). It is my obligation and duty as an American to do this, at the expense of my life or not. I don't give a flying shit about the polotics behind this shit, so long as other troops are out on the fuckin field in danger, I should be too.
Im sorry, but war is one of the most terrible things that has ever plagued mankind. That you can be insensitive to the fact that people die every day for, to say the least, our protection, is beyond me. I think that anti war is the best 'anti' anything in the world. That, and it is their right and choice to be anti-war. They choose to take a negative stand (and to question why we wage wars). You have no right to berate them for something they are 100% true about.
thats hat i said!!!!!!!... where the fuck are they getting the idea that the gov just picks them up off the street and shipem to war. They volunter, it also pays
They might volounteer to defend their nation. But when a criminal government leads a criminal war they should "protect their country from domestic enemies" and fire at the white house, not Baghdad.
See, I'm no pissy anti-war person. I'd fire at the white house any day.
Then why haven't you? typical... all talk- real surprise there. You have not the means, method, or mindset which is all that can be expected of you keep slithering along.
Why I haven't? Why don't you go invade North Korea or Iran alone, as I imagine you'd like. Think before you write dumbass.
But there's tons of Americans, both conservatives and liberals who are sick of the lying, criminal government that keeps spending on things they don't want - in efficiently and destroying the constitution.
Why do you defend that shithole anyway or the fact it forces the countries young to go to wars they could never imagine. Unlawfull wars by the countries own laws.
I'm not the idiot that said I would attack the white house now am I? Again, you're all talk jackass. I'm not supporting or protesting the war, just protesting your retarded ass. Your stupidity is astounding. You are too wrapped in your ideology to realize that I was not supporting or opposing the war, just making fun of you for false promises. Keep slithering along.
Oh right, I guess you're the jackass with his head in his arse - farting out shit to others while having no opinion himself?
Easy to do that, eh?
But maybe you're just sick with amnesia? Since your first message was the whiny redneck response "I'm so sick of the anti-war ppl"... Thusly you must be one of the very few complete morons being pro-war?
And yeah, i'd rather fire at the morons who get young Americans killed in the thousands than kill towelheads in Iraq
amnesia? Where did I say I was tired of anti-war people.... can't seem to find that comment. must be that you are delusional. HAHAHAHA you confused me with junior420909 HAHAHA thats too funny. You are too prepared to lash out at anyone that you did not even bother reading who wrote what.
Red car brother red car. red car.
You would not fire at anyone. You have not the means method or mindset. We discussed this already. Keep slithering along.
Well i would find it polite not to jump into a conversation I'm having with someone ellse, replying in his name as it could and should be assumed you did. See, you replied to a message which was a reply to someone ellse. That's like jumping out of a crowd and screaming when two people are having a conversation.
But alright, so you're the opinionless fuck then? And concernign method or mindset the answer is obvious. I would fire if I had the method. Thus I have the mindset, jackass/coward.
You model your argument as a child would- to suit your needs. Then act as a child and I will treat you as one. To extinct your behavior it is necessary to ignore it. Keep crying child, no one shall turn their head.
If it were up to me north korea would be a baron wasteland of crispy critters aswell as iran anyone who dare threaten the U.S.A. deserves nothing more than swift and painful punishment. Set an example not to f*&( with us. Otherwise we are weak.
Show compasion to those who deserve it and mercy to those that need it. and kill those who dare impinge any action against freedom
Damn you make the looney toons look smart. I'm enlisting to the US Army to be in the Special Forces, does that mean some day when you type trys something stupid i can shove a .556x7 sopository up your ass? I sure as hell hope so, if you want to be a terrorist you should be treated as one.
Those "socialist" singers do more good for the world than any one soldier will do. You say you didn't do this for the money but for the eperience. Rockstars see more of the world than you will ever see. They raise more money for charities than you ever will. So really they do more good with their music than they would if they picked up a gun and became another grunt.
Sorry, let me rephrase. Just because System of a Down lands in a Parisian airport, Plays at a Parisian Stadium, and eats at a Parisian McDonalds before they leave does not mean that they expirenced Paris. The culture is the signifigant part not the land mass.
one looked russian with the russian helment and then 1 had a straw had then one looked like a iraqi reserve gaurd wats with the diffrent suits and if i was poor i would of jacked that shit
I've always hated that song due to the fact that one line is an ignorant utterance without thought! It's a "volunteer" army so rich or poor no one is forced. SOAD sucks and their politics also do also! Fuck them is right! No courage to do it themselves, but taken for granted all who previously fought for our freedom and those all those who will! As always great video! Keep em rolling!
Thanks for the detailed comment! It's funny how people like SOAD make money off of confusing people. And many of the fans only use SOAD as the primary source of news...fucking scary.
Yeah, I thought it would be a great comparison of the song and the reality of "dancin' in the desert".
People need to realize that a lot of people in the world can only make money off of the propaganda they sell people. They wouldn't be able to make money any other way...
theyr talkin about drafting people into the war in the past. they talk alot about past american history more then todays. thats why. when you get drafted into the war u dont have a choice
But do poor people have a choice ?? The system is so fucked up that they don't have any chance of improving their life. They don't have the money to go to college, they don't have the opportunity to go to proper schools, they can't even afford nutritious food. The only thing they can do is go to the military, that's the only way for them to improve their lives. That is why most recruits come from poor to lower mid class families (Source - Neilsen defence manpower data center, 2004).
And the rest of the recruits are people like you, who have a GI JOE/RAMBO complex. Seriously, what kind of freedoms do we enjoy ?? Security is increased everywhere, there is no freedom of speech in the mass media, people get reprimanded for saying the truth, everything is commercialised, there is no privacy, seriously, is this freedom for you ??
@akamola11 Good lord, you are cryin like a bitch. The system is designed for fucking poor people. FASFA dumbass, if you don't have shit, the government will send you to school entirely.
Well, Green Berets were put on this earth to teach the 'dark arts' of guerilla warfare, and this is a brilliant example.
Richtigify 4 months ago
I wonder if there are any old Hinds laying around out there......
ITSbigwillystyle 1 year ago
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whats the track used in this?
adw311 1 year ago
whats the track used in this?
adw311 1 year ago
These diaries never get old. Has anyone figured out the song?
DeParisD 1 year ago
u ever work with the Iraqi Guard?
gizmoshadow1978 1 year ago
Defending freedom and protecting the interests of thinly-veiled oil lobbyists who send us to war on flimsy intelligence are two very different things.
"Being a soldier isn't just following orders, it's following those orders in the service of a higher cause. When that cause is betrayed, we're not soldiers anymore - just pieces on a chess board dying for the wrong reason."
StormZephyr 1 year ago
Now, the problem comes when people think that BYOB speaks out against the former as well as (or, worse, instead of) the latter. I repeat: In my opinion, Serj and Daron are much like Daron's own portrayal of Charles Manson. They're horrible people, but they have some good ideas and I don't see why some people hate them more than they hated George Bush. (Not saying I agree with Daron about Manson, though. :P)
darkmeta999 1 year ago
What makes you think that the war in Afghanistan is a war for oil? Is it because the liberal, biased media tells you that it is? Last time I checked the U.S. doesn't buy oil from Afghanistan. I don't even think Afghanistan exports anything other than opium products, and our government certainly isn't buying that.
rsa6301 1 year ago
I didn't say anything about Afghanistan.
StormZephyr 1 year ago
...I laugh at how pro-SOADs and anti-SOADs accuse each other of being unable to think for themselves. (Personally, I appreciate the work that they tried to do for peace, but it's obvious that Tankian and possibly Malakian only care about themselves.)
Still, reading these comments was enlightening... Well, some of them, anyway. The argument between omfg and Quickwit is, for example, absolutely pointless.
darkmeta999 1 year ago
What song is this?
shopcove 2 years ago
I am in an upper class family, and I am enlisting to fullfill my dream to become US Army Special Forces (Green Beret or Ranger). It is my obligation and duty as an American to do this, at the expense of my life or not. I don't give a flying shit about the polotics behind this shit, so long as other troops are out on the fuckin field in danger, I should be too.
IceBasset 2 years ago
You need to do everyone a favor and stay as far away as possible from the military, and Special Forces in specific.
Then again, with an attitude and mentality like that you wouldn't even get into SF or make it much further then the first four hours.
Grow up, educate yourself, and get your mind right kid.
EuroS50 2 years ago
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jtip001 2 years ago
the poor volenteer they have a choice anti-war ppl piss me off
junior420909 2 years ago
Im sorry, but war is one of the most terrible things that has ever plagued mankind. That you can be insensitive to the fact that people die every day for, to say the least, our protection, is beyond me. I think that anti war is the best 'anti' anything in the world. That, and it is their right and choice to be anti-war. They choose to take a negative stand (and to question why we wage wars). You have no right to berate them for something they are 100% true about.
kymon117 2 years ago
thats hat i said!!!!!!!... where the fuck are they getting the idea that the gov just picks them up off the street and shipem to war. They volunter, it also pays
Texasred64 2 years ago 2
They might volounteer to defend their nation. But when a criminal government leads a criminal war they should "protect their country from domestic enemies" and fire at the white house, not Baghdad.
See, I'm no pissy anti-war person. I'd fire at the white house any day.
omfg4000 2 years ago
Then why haven't you? typical... all talk- real surprise there. You have not the means, method, or mindset which is all that can be expected of you keep slithering along.
MrQuickwit09 2 years ago
Why I haven't? Why don't you go invade North Korea or Iran alone, as I imagine you'd like. Think before you write dumbass.
But there's tons of Americans, both conservatives and liberals who are sick of the lying, criminal government that keeps spending on things they don't want - in efficiently and destroying the constitution.
Why do you defend that shithole anyway or the fact it forces the countries young to go to wars they could never imagine. Unlawfull wars by the countries own laws.
omfg4000 2 years ago
I'm not the idiot that said I would attack the white house now am I? Again, you're all talk jackass. I'm not supporting or protesting the war, just protesting your retarded ass. Your stupidity is astounding. You are too wrapped in your ideology to realize that I was not supporting or opposing the war, just making fun of you for false promises. Keep slithering along.
MrQuickwit09 2 years ago
Oh right, I guess you're the jackass with his head in his arse - farting out shit to others while having no opinion himself?
Easy to do that, eh?
But maybe you're just sick with amnesia? Since your first message was the whiny redneck response "I'm so sick of the anti-war ppl"... Thusly you must be one of the very few complete morons being pro-war?
And yeah, i'd rather fire at the morons who get young Americans killed in the thousands than kill towelheads in Iraq
omfg4000 2 years ago
amnesia? Where did I say I was tired of anti-war people.... can't seem to find that comment. must be that you are delusional. HAHAHAHA you confused me with junior420909 HAHAHA thats too funny. You are too prepared to lash out at anyone that you did not even bother reading who wrote what.
Red car brother red car. red car.
You would not fire at anyone. You have not the means method or mindset. We discussed this already. Keep slithering along.
MrQuickwit09 2 years ago
Well i would find it polite not to jump into a conversation I'm having with someone ellse, replying in his name as it could and should be assumed you did. See, you replied to a message which was a reply to someone ellse. That's like jumping out of a crowd and screaming when two people are having a conversation.
But alright, so you're the opinionless fuck then? And concernign method or mindset the answer is obvious. I would fire if I had the method. Thus I have the mindset, jackass/coward.
omfg4000 2 years ago
You model your argument as a child would- to suit your needs. Then act as a child and I will treat you as one. To extinct your behavior it is necessary to ignore it. Keep crying child, no one shall turn their head.
MrQuickwit09 2 years ago
If it were up to me north korea would be a baron wasteland of crispy critters aswell as iran anyone who dare threaten the U.S.A. deserves nothing more than swift and painful punishment. Set an example not to f*&( with us. Otherwise we are weak.
Show compasion to those who deserve it and mercy to those that need it. and kill those who dare impinge any action against freedom
crippy1927 2 years ago
your a pansy
crippy1927 2 years ago
Damn you make the looney toons look smart. I'm enlisting to the US Army to be in the Special Forces, does that mean some day when you type trys something stupid i can shove a .556x7 sopository up your ass? I sure as hell hope so, if you want to be a terrorist you should be treated as one.
IceBasset 2 years ago
I know a little bit about teachin soldiers. But only things for the boot camp .. but this.. looks like some incredible..
language
culture
and and and..
How did you managed all this with theese ANA guys?
xiso 2 years ago
They fucking loved us. We were willing to die for them, so they were willing to give 100% and die for us...
HistoricThirdWard 2 years ago
Those "socialist" singers do more good for the world than any one soldier will do. You say you didn't do this for the money but for the eperience. Rockstars see more of the world than you will ever see. They raise more money for charities than you ever will. So really they do more good with their music than they would if they picked up a gun and became another grunt.
polska2934 2 years ago
So are you one of the useless fans then?
HistoricThirdWard 2 years ago
Setting foot in a country and seeing the world are two different things.
catchthedemon 2 years ago
You haven't set foot in any country, but you know "how" to see the world?
HistoricThirdWard 2 years ago
Sorry, let me rephrase. Just because System of a Down lands in a Parisian airport, Plays at a Parisian Stadium, and eats at a Parisian McDonalds before they leave does not mean that they expirenced Paris. The culture is the signifigant part not the land mass.
catchthedemon 2 years ago
Got it. I read it several times before I tried to come up with some kind of retort. Thanks for watching...
HistoricThirdWard 2 years ago
Yep, very good point unfortunately socialist singers are all to common!
Austinjoke 3 years ago
And the soldiers use their songs for motivation when going to battle...
HistoricThirdWard 3 years ago
and i should go there im mexican and i can probly blend in the desert lol
deathbros100 3 years ago
one looked russian with the russian helment and then 1 had a straw had then one looked like a iraqi reserve gaurd wats with the diffrent suits and if i was poor i would of jacked that shit
deathbros100 3 years ago
I've always hated that song due to the fact that one line is an ignorant utterance without thought! It's a "volunteer" army so rich or poor no one is forced. SOAD sucks and their politics also do also! Fuck them is right! No courage to do it themselves, but taken for granted all who previously fought for our freedom and those all those who will! As always great video! Keep em rolling!
Kilo1164 3 years ago 3
Thanks for the detailed comment! It's funny how people like SOAD make money off of confusing people. And many of the fans only use SOAD as the primary source of news...fucking scary.
Yeah, I thought it would be a great comparison of the song and the reality of "dancin' in the desert".
People need to realize that a lot of people in the world can only make money off of the propaganda they sell people. They wouldn't be able to make money any other way...
HistoricThirdWard 3 years ago
theyr talkin about drafting people into the war in the past. they talk alot about past american history more then todays. thats why. when you get drafted into the war u dont have a choice
zuchary 1 year ago
its because theyr talkin about being drafted into the war without choice. it happened in the past @Kilo1164
zuchary 1 year ago
But do poor people have a choice ?? The system is so fucked up that they don't have any chance of improving their life. They don't have the money to go to college, they don't have the opportunity to go to proper schools, they can't even afford nutritious food. The only thing they can do is go to the military, that's the only way for them to improve their lives. That is why most recruits come from poor to lower mid class families (Source - Neilsen defence manpower data center, 2004).
akamola11 1 year ago
..... continued
And the rest of the recruits are people like you, who have a GI JOE/RAMBO complex. Seriously, what kind of freedoms do we enjoy ?? Security is increased everywhere, there is no freedom of speech in the mass media, people get reprimanded for saying the truth, everything is commercialised, there is no privacy, seriously, is this freedom for you ??
akamola11 1 year ago
@akamola11 Good lord, you are cryin like a bitch. The system is designed for fucking poor people. FASFA dumbass, if you don't have shit, the government will send you to school entirely.
adambox14 10 months ago
You have to make this into a feature!!
AWESOME!
amusementfilms 3 years ago 4
Thanks!! I'm figuring out how to present the full feature.
HistoricThirdWard 3 years ago
The kids at the car give a whole new meaning to down and dirty. I'd be complaining if I even had just a little dirt. :o
JoeSomebody2 3 years ago 2
Those kids need McGyvor and swiss army knives...
HistoricThirdWard 3 years ago
Awesome editing style. I don't know who is influencing who anymore, we've made too many videos.
I gotta get my kids one of those burned out wrecks to play with for Christmas, get them off the damned video games.
Pjphoto 3 years ago 2
Cut on action...
HistoricThirdWard 3 years ago
Exactly
SirDriverMan1 3 years ago 2
Oh NOW I GET IT!! You were over there doing missionary work. I saw you convert that dude over there. LOL
tombstone999 3 years ago
Converted him to a capitolist maybe!
SirDriverMan1 3 years ago
Haha...I turned around and he was doing that on his own...
HistoricThirdWard 3 years ago
"go back to ignoring it".
So the scene when you are running towards that building, kinda at the beginning, is that training?
LaughingLeaf 3 years ago 2
Yeah, that clip was during a training cycle...
HistoricThirdWard 3 years ago
Nice video! so why are they? those guys must be Nepalese?
ajmaljoe 3 years ago 2
Nepalese?
HistoricThirdWard 3 years ago
the guy with the helmet and the other with straw hat, are they nepalese?
ajmaljoe 3 years ago 2
They are Afghans, but I am not sure of their family history...
HistoricThirdWard 3 years ago