Train derails in heavy snow

[250Trojan]

OMG! It's Stobart rail!

[samthegreencat47]

The jocks came from miles around walking in snow 15 ft deep! Hoping for free plunder! Sam Green in England!

[es78xx]

there just needs to be more preperation. november should be a month when people work really hard to do things in advance and get ready for things to come. not waiting to december when evrything is frozen and shut down.

[zark212]

I bet the train Driver was listening to Justin Bieber lol.

[yjhugroo]

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[nicksmomstacy22]

snow can't do that at all.

[CowsXonXcrack]

@nicksmomstacy22 In the United Kingdom, where they know fuck all about dealing with trains in snow, it can do that.

[NorthLimitation]

@CowsXonXcrack

What a random thing to say - this happend in the Scottish Highlands on a line that goes through upland Druim Uchdair and Slochd, these drivers would have been used to driving in heavy snow (even by your understandably higher Canadian standards). It's very rare for these things to happen, it's just lucky no one was hurt. It's completely different to say London, where the smallest amount of snow causes chaos.

[CowsXonXcrack]

@NorthLimitation That's what I mean, I heard from another British Youtuber that if they get even a skim of snow and the whole country shuts down.

[adster700]

@CowsXonXcrack

It's an over exaggeration, as previously said, this happened in Scotland. You should know that the UK is a group of countries, Scotland in particular gets the most snow so drivers there are well prepared and well trained for the snow, and I would imagine many Northern English drivers are too. It's true that snow messes up train services in major cities like London and stuff but it shouldn't delay services in places where it snows every year almost.

[craaaaazyjaaaaay]

@nicksmomstacy22 You'd be suprised what enough snow can do.

[Xantec]

that didn't appear in the channel 5 tv show about eddie stobart!

[TheDylanJoyce]

the Train's engine can finally rest, may it rest in peace

[arkie74]

the crew was lucky,most runnaways result in fatalitys

[lucy9359]

wow I didn't know Scotland got snow like that it looks like Canada in the begining of winter...

[ididi9]

@lucy9359 In Briton we get heavy snow just for about 3-4 weeks a year

[qLa7a]

@lucy9359we dont usally jus this year was really bad

[lucy9359]

@qLa7a us 2 we have had record snow and rain falls as well as an increase in large scale Tornado's and or fish washing up on the shores for no reason or birds dropping out of the sky for no reason and bees up and leaving their nests for no reason as is the same around the world....odd events like this happening....

[Eng8492]

Boot Cahptain, Eim giveen her all she has!

[randknu]

I am an engineer in Norway and winter railroading has it's problems. I'm thinking this is a frosen blockage in the brake line. Humidity comes into the compressed air and gathers at the lowest point which is in the hose between two cars, freezes and blocks off brakes for an x number of cars.

[TheSlash21]

@randknu

This was caused by snow compacting between the brake disc and the brake pad. The train had been climbing a long and steep gradient, so snow that was stirred up underneath became trapped and turned to ice.

You can read the investigation report on the Rail Accident Investigation Branch website. Unfortunately Youtube won't allow me to post the direct url link

[robertgift]

@TheSlash21 Thank you, randknu. I am surprised that friction from attempted braking did not melthe ice over time and allow sufficient braking.

I would more likely suspect condensation in the brake line causing an obstruction not allowing adequate brake application.

Try posting the link, spelling it out: "at", "dot".

[SteffanLlwyd]

@randknu I was wondering how such a thing could happen with air brakes. Thanks for the explanation. I wonder how the risk can be reduced?

[randknu1]

@SteffanLlwyd Air dryers on the compressor helps, adding alcohol to the compressed air further lowers the risk. But it can still happen and does happen from time to time, that is why we are required to make a brake test before any major downhill. If you find your brakes are poor you have much more time to get the train stopped and finding the culprit before anything bad happens.

[SteffanLlwyd]

@randknu1 It is interesting to hear from someone directly involved. Even in the mid 1970s many waggons only had hand brakes which had to be 'pinned down' before descending steep inclines such as 'Tallerddig'. A notice reminded 'All drivers of down unfitted goods trains to pin down brakes.' Couplings could also break when the 'slack' in loose three-link couplings was taken up and the shock of the momentum in the leading waggons pulled suddenly at the waggons on the rear. Crude!

[SteffanLlwyd]

@SteffanLlwyd (I should have said that this was in the UK. There were historical reasons why many waggons still had no vacuum or air brakes. One advantage of of loose coupled waggons without brakes was that small locomotives could start big trains, as each waggon was pilled individually. There was a delay between the first waggon starting and the last one starting. The sound made by each coupling link as it was being drawn tight was like music. They sounded best at night.

[Petemonster62]

What a mess !!! Fortunately the train crew were alright!

[MDaisyC]

I read recently that this was the first revenue earning trip for this engine called James the engine.

Then I read one of the early Thomas books and an engine called James who has just arrived on the Island crashes after a break failure.

Coincidence or what.

[BhanuHabbo]

@MDaisyC :P So much so. This James crashes, that James crashed. :P So much brake failure with engines named James XD

[barrach7]

lol.Fair play mate! Have a Happy Crimbo and Best Wishes...from another twat! (lol)

[barrach7]

(Joking....!) ;)

[Femmenition]

It was the "harsh weather" that caused 66048 to develop these "brake problems" in the first place.

[cestrianvlogger]

them bloody 66's. if it was a 37 this wouldnt of happened.

[Femmenition]

I highly doubt that.

[60103Henry]

I hope 66,048 will run again!

[polarius0771]

Climate change may disrupt the Gulf Stream causing colder weather in north western Europe

[XxBec3509]

wow nice footage ,, :)

[barrach7]

Naaah mate! You've got it wrong! 'Feck all' up here in "Jockland"! I mean, my sister's been snowed in by FEET of snow in Moray since 22/12...but spare a thought fr them poor, Saaaf Eastern Ingirlish! Why....the ground there's ben devastated by at LEAST 6 snowflakes! The poor souls! Not much WONDER all the efforts are being concerntrated down there! Sniff!

[Shesnoin]

@barrach7 Get your point but where is your origin? Mate - English terminology. Feck - Irish. I mean - Dad's. Ben - definately a broons terminology gone wrong in this context. Jockland - no Scottish person describes ourselves as Jockland... just wondered where you actually came from? Oh, and please don't tell me you work for the Scottish Tourism Board!!!!

[barrach7]

@Shesnoin

Hi Twat!

I'm from the Western Isles originally, then Sutherland, now near Inverness. How about yourself? A central-belt twat, perhaps?

[Shesnoin]

@barrach7 Definately Scottish using the word "twat" - thought I was the only one that used that word... so from one twat to another - have a good Christmas - lived near Inverness for part of my life - good time of my life - also lived in the Central Belt earlier in life as well - enjoyed that too.... no one from your part or their part insulted me in real life - but hey that's youtube for you - the insult capital of the world......

[2READYCRETE]

@stublue44 YOU'RE A ROACH

[stublue44]

@2READYCRETE your a parasite unwilling to work you sponger.BENEFIT BUM

[bimernut]

@stublue44 Brilliant solution. Call them all up and tell them to get out there right away.

[wayne205stevens]

Don't worry I see things like this every day with my son when we watch Thomas the tank together! :o)

[divedeepinside]

@wayne205stevens hahahhhaaaa thomas the tank

[31144]

Never mind,1 down,400 ish left to go

[kronenbourg16641664]

who cares about bob granthem lmao

[craigybaby10101]

maybe they were trying to recreate the MW2 map

[jowens308]

fuck up gaming nerd. This has nothing to do with mw2

[MrPLATFORM5]

66048 BEAST

[suicidalbunny1500]

leaving , dinette we got it at flea market

[ExpressSprinter]

a recent report is saying that the driver failed to do a brake test before departure. if this is found to be the case the driver will suffer imediant suspension

[hanaboo92]

i'm supposed to be travelling by train from inverness to edinburgh this saturday but when i heard about the stobart freight train being derailed , i thought that the train may be cancelled . If anyone has any news about when the railway will be cleared or if a replacement bus will be provided will be a great help as i will know what my plans are ! xx

[goonerlewis16]

some trains are being diverted through Aberdeen, others maybe cancelled. hope this helps

[berwickspotter]

Glad to hear the train crew were ok

[AndreiTupolev]

I'm also wondering what DRS might be thinking just now.

[180113thomas]

it is sobart not DRS

[AndreiTupolev]

@180113thomas

Yes, DBS have only just taken it over, haven't they. In fact, wasn't this the very first working?

That's why I wonder what DRS might be thinking.

[bowjasmi]

I can hear DRS laughing from here!

[bowjasmi]

Its a DB schenker in sTobart colours you wally!

[Creamtea100]

All aboard the FAIL TRAIN!!!!!

[55022RSG]

TPWS Failed

[180113thomas]

i know i only knew about this today and i was shocked about it.

[formidable38]

Such a sweeping statement. If it slides, bugger all will stop you. Lets await the outcome of the investigation eh! Thats the RAIB's job.

[55022RSG]

all i said is the TPWS Failed, thats what i got told off driver a driver of DB Schenker

[formidable38]

Still dont mean jack shit til after the investigation though. Remember 50 041 at Padd on its side? The driver of that said he had brake failure, turned out he fell asleep. As I said, lets wait until its been investigated formally before spreading hearsay and rumour.

[AndreiTupolev]

@55022RSG

why should TPWS make the slightest difference? The driver can still apply the brakes by the traditional method.

No, I'm not blaming the driver, just saying that I don't see why TPWS should make any difference.

[55022RSG]

the cold may have caused relays to freeze in the system and cause the TPWS to fail

[bowjasmi]

Yes and the Hobbit that sits in the relay and makes the electrical connection manually must have frozen solid as well! Yeah right! What you, a F++king expert?

[55022RSG]

well lets see i have a Qualifacation in Electronics

[colofeaton]

@55022RSG

Do you actually know what TPWS is and when it becomes active, IE at and on approach to signals at danger and speed restrictions, thought not, as other people have said wait for the RAIB report. Glad traincrew were ok

[bowjasmi]

all i can say is -you should frigging know better then!

[bowjasmi]

was that when you was 8 amd playing with your Meccano mummys boy?

[bowjasmi]

My Arse!

[AndreiTupolev]

I've been thinking about this. What happened to James the Engine (before it became the red engine) in the Rev. Awdry's stories? Ran away with a freight train down a hill and ended up down an embankment, didn't it.

See, it's an omen.

[mjradar]

This loco use to be red(EWS)now DBS66048. The DRS loco was 66414 with same name.

[EWS60500]

Coh, I bet the driver and scecond man were frightend, lucky no one was killed, probably the air in the brakes froze

[78UNKNOWN]

Even a disaster is prettier in snow

[RerailMe]

@78UNKNOWN LOL!