@cenodus after playing about 7 of these bloody things a season I'm about ready to do more than "spare" you. trust me, bro, passions, xmas oratorios, messiahs, and b minor masses might be our bread and butter but seriously, they take a lot of time and it gets boring pretty fast when you have to keep playing them over and over. :P
According to scripture, the passion occurred only a week after the triumphant entry into jerusalem. With great speed and inevitability is how evil usually happens. There is nothing moving or compelling or pretty about it. The tragedy just unfolds. Boom boom boom. So i kind of like this interpretation.
masaaki suzuki has one of the best interprestations I've ever heard. this is just...I mean, I can't really hear the greatness at this speed, there is simply no room for gravitas.
this opening has to be a joke. This tempo doesn't make any sense when you listen to the oboe lines. At this speed, the tempo itself takes over the musical drama where it should be built up by harmonic tensions instead.
Something is wrong with my YouTube player! It speeds up the audio for some reason. I haven't had trouble with other videos except for this one. I've already sent an e-mail to the "support" staff but they say everything is fine. Can someone tell me why my Audio is so fast only in this video?
I laughed aloud at this. I agree, though, I like this movement fairly fast (around 9 minutes seems good to me), but this just seems like a mad dash to the end of the movement.
John Elliott Gardener has a pretty good tempo on his recording but I don't agree with his gentle dynamics on all the chorales. That's where Karl Richter's recording gets it right! To be quite honest, I give the singers in this recording a huge thumbs up! Playing sixteenth notes on a violin and singing them (especially at this tempo) is quite difficult.
It adds intensity, same effect Glen Gould's speed had on Bach. It brings the music to our times. We think and feel faster than baroque people; that's how it's so hard for modern men to tune to classical music.
It feels nothing like anything silly Charlie Chaplin has ever dreamed of. Might go well with Evangelion though :-)
You are obviously an illiterate both musically and literally, utterly oblivious to historic facts and the written word. All sources (i.e. Geminiani, Tartini, Boyden etc) have preferred a higher tempo than people are performing at now.
This is how it should be. Go listen to Il Giardino Armonico and study more.
@rutkjell Sorry, but there is obviously a limit of speed when you say it should be in "a higher tempo than people are performing". Don't relativize: this version doesn't sound fast..., it sounds QUICK and almost GRACEFUL, when the music is dense and dramatic.
Ouch! Far too fast! It just sounds daft at this speed and lacks any gravity. Bach Collegium Japan does it at about half this tempo which sounds much better. Ton Koopman takes it a bit faster than BCJ but still nowhere near this extreme tempo, and he is often criticised for his rushing of Bach!
Bachs music is awesome.. the tempo doesnt matter
lelouchmagnet12 6 months ago
How fast!
leomulder 1 year ago
terrible!
toppix7 1 year ago
Faggotboy, why do You play if you don't like music? Seems like you made a wrong choose sometime. Especially if you don't like Bach.
Closertonature 1 year ago
if only all passion performances were this fast. I'd be home sooner and less bored.
fagottehautboy 1 year ago
@fagottehautboy : Oh C'mon!!! Spare us...
cenodus 1 year ago
@cenodus after playing about 7 of these bloody things a season I'm about ready to do more than "spare" you. trust me, bro, passions, xmas oratorios, messiahs, and b minor masses might be our bread and butter but seriously, they take a lot of time and it gets boring pretty fast when you have to keep playing them over and over. :P
fagottehautboy 1 year ago
According to scripture, the passion occurred only a week after the triumphant entry into jerusalem. With great speed and inevitability is how evil usually happens. There is nothing moving or compelling or pretty about it. The tragedy just unfolds. Boom boom boom. So i kind of like this interpretation.
euphorialupstream 2 years ago
My goodness, are they going to a fire?
PrecicyJax 2 years ago
masaaki suzuki has one of the best interprestations I've ever heard. this is just...I mean, I can't really hear the greatness at this speed, there is simply no room for gravitas.
F0reseer 2 years ago
it's grotesque.
Leubald 2 years ago
Go go go!!!!!!!!!!!:)))))))))))))
Sahao1 2 years ago
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louloulepoux1 2 years ago
this opening has to be a joke. This tempo doesn't make any sense when you listen to the oboe lines. At this speed, the tempo itself takes over the musical drama where it should be built up by harmonic tensions instead.
louloulepoux1 2 years ago 7
It is very slow for me!!! hahahahaha
saydaliriadi 2 years ago
Perhaps Alister McGrath and Richard Dawkins on Oboe at 4:45..... :)
Beattietron 2 years ago
Something is wrong with my YouTube player! It speeds up the audio for some reason. I haven't had trouble with other videos except for this one. I've already sent an e-mail to the "support" staff but they say everything is fine. Can someone tell me why my Audio is so fast only in this video?
gerubach72 2 years ago
I laughed aloud at this. I agree, though, I like this movement fairly fast (around 9 minutes seems good to me), but this just seems like a mad dash to the end of the movement.
barreltheif 2 years ago 2
John Elliott Gardener has a pretty good tempo on his recording but I don't agree with his gentle dynamics on all the chorales. That's where Karl Richter's recording gets it right! To be quite honest, I give the singers in this recording a huge thumbs up! Playing sixteenth notes on a violin and singing them (especially at this tempo) is quite difficult.
gerubach72 2 years ago
geezer on youtube!
vwbassmaniac 3 years ago
that tenor is brilliant!
sk8nruff 3 years ago
El problema de ésta interpretaciónes que,si bien comedida en el tiempo,no lo es en "il tempo",muy rápido".
debartzen 3 years ago
It's true that it's a little fast, but it's nice anyway.
hunchbacked 3 years ago
Yes, too fast, removes the weight and drama and makes it sound like music accompanying a charlie chaplin movie.
ckeledjian 3 years ago
It adds intensity, same effect Glen Gould's speed had on Bach. It brings the music to our times. We think and feel faster than baroque people; that's how it's so hard for modern men to tune to classical music.
It feels nothing like anything silly Charlie Chaplin has ever dreamed of. Might go well with Evangelion though :-)
Eikinkloster 3 years ago
Uhm... Glenn Gould plays Bach slower than most. Which makes it more intellectual and detailed. I don't know what you mean with this.
ckeledjian 3 years ago
You are obviously an illiterate both musically and literally, utterly oblivious to historic facts and the written word. All sources (i.e. Geminiani, Tartini, Boyden etc) have preferred a higher tempo than people are performing at now.
This is how it should be. Go listen to Il Giardino Armonico and study more.
rutkjell 2 years ago
@rutkjell Sorry, but there is obviously a limit of speed when you say it should be in "a higher tempo than people are performing". Don't relativize: this version doesn't sound fast..., it sounds QUICK and almost GRACEFUL, when the music is dense and dramatic.
leomulder 1 year ago
the Jews are'nt insulted at all!!!
we have different places to pray..
(and you can see that it was on TV..)
felixml19 3 years ago
The fastest performance I've come across, but this shows new structures and nuances within the music.
RevdRichard 3 years ago
A beautiful Christian performance in Jerusalem, facinating. Were the Jews insulted?
RipUaNew1 3 years ago
That 2 on the screen is for Arrutz Shtayim (Channel 2), one of the two open TV channels in Israel.
It was actually a very Israeli performance: Israelis are very impatient, hence the speed :-)
Eikinkloster 3 years ago
they wanted to finish the performance quickly...
sagarzon 2 years ago 4
very fast sorry but I didn't like this performance
fercha90s 3 years ago
I agreed with you, is a horrible interpretation, very fast!!!
Selford 3 years ago
is this an experiment? How to play the mattheus passion in less than 1 hour?
TLebacq 3 years ago
It is definitely an experiment to see if people differentiate between John and Matthew passion
TermontBohlin 3 years ago 2
of course i mean St. John's passion, that's not my point!
TLebacq 3 years ago
this obviously is only the opening of the St. John-Passion, the chorus "Herr, unser Herrscher"
TheR3dRabbit 3 years ago
Ouch! Far too fast! It just sounds daft at this speed and lacks any gravity. Bach Collegium Japan does it at about half this tempo which sounds much better. Ton Koopman takes it a bit faster than BCJ but still nowhere near this extreme tempo, and he is often criticised for his rushing of Bach!
llj553 3 years ago 2
not used to it being sung so fast. we sing it slower in my choir, but I think it still sounds pretty good.
staybeautiful101 3 years ago
A left-handed conductor!!! Or at least, one who uses his left hand as his dominant conducting hand.
CliffX 3 years ago
Barokkanerne, Dormition Church in 1995!
Great performance.. I can't recall the bass player...
barokkanersjef 4 years ago