Any informed person knows that the Democrats are the ones who cheat. Illegal immigrants, dead people, or what Gore tried to do.
He didn't want to recount all of Florida he only wanted to recount heavily Democrat districts. You always pick up some votes on a recount and if you only recount Democrat districts you'll only pick up Democrat votes.
Gore was the one trying to cheat. The Florida votes were recounted time and time again and never has Gore been shown the victor.
@Swanzo And Gore still got his ass kicked, giving us the greatest President in our history. We'd be in great shape now if Bush was still President. The Kenyan muzzie fucked America worse in 3 years than all of our of our enemies together could ever do.
All the dems wine about voter fraud when they lose, looks like the real voter fraud is against Republicans. Just like when those republican vehicles had their tires slashed by the son of a black democrat--outcry? No. Hypocrites!
The REAL voter fraud is against AMERICANS. You are short sighted if you see this as a partisan issue. Every American's voice should be heard. Dem, Repub, Commie, Libertarian, Socialist, even Nazi. If you pay your taxes then you have a stake in the system, regardless of ideology.
If ANYONE is not being heard, than the system is broken and needs to be fixed.
Not true, America has always had a two-party system. In France they tried your technique and it ended up getting even more partisan, more fighting, and no legislation passed.
I know, and if people want to throw their vote away on the green ticket, then that is their choice. But they HAVE that vote to throw away. Our two party system is not perfect, but political systems are often steeped as heavily in tradition as utility.
Seriously? That is hilarious. But you can see how someone from elsewhere would think it was a cross? Circle, with four straight lines running up, down, left and right.
I agree, totally. Would like to see "in triplicate"...for the voter, a "lockbox" and independent printout verified.
Many of the electronic voting machines with no paper trail also came from Republican-dominated companies, including some from Diebold, whose owner, Wally O'Dell, infamously guaranteed in 2003 that he would deliver Ohio's electoral votes to Bush.
I feel the same way about this as I did when the Dems were whining about election fraud in '00 and '04 - politicians, ACCEPT the fact that you lost (us Republicans lost this time) and GET ON WITH GOVERNING. Quit worrying about political hair-splitting and DO YOUR JOBS.
so vote stealing and suppression is ok? i vote dem and this pisses me off-not just the fact that it happened, but the "it's not my fault" attutude. tolerating this means tolerating corruption in gov't, i dont care what party you back.
I have to agree with the Republican on this. When anyone wins due to voter fraud or election tampering, we all lose. But at the same time, I've never heard anyone (Republican or Democrat) say "We won! I think we should demand a recount!"
Question, if the GOP was able to have a press conference, why didn't they just get extra ballots on the way there? And there were problems with the electric machines in some places, and they had to use paper ballots; there should have been a suitable alternative used here.
There are alot of dems here that say that turning GOP voters away is just flat wrong. You didnt hear that in 2004 with all the e-voting frauds, we were called conspiracy nuts! Well i say ANY voter fraud/suppression should be investigated.. im tired of the corruption when it comes to voting.
Democrats fight the Republicans,Republicans fight the Democrats.And people wonder why people don't give a shit about politics in this country?It's always the same shit!Pointing fingers and doing more in elections then they do in office!Oh and throwing money away on commercials that give citizens headaches.Can't forget that.
This should be investigated, and if anything illegal happened the people responsible should be held accountable. It doesn't matter which side does it, election fraud and vote suppression are wrong. That said, this seems more like incompetence than fraud, unlike the NH Repubs who were indicted for jamming Dem. phone banks, etc.
How come Democrats in 2000 and 2004 say bush stole the election, when he actually won, But now when they finally win they say that the american people are finally tired of republicans. pure hypocrites, unlkie the dems you dont see republicans talking about a red-state secession or talking about lawsuits or allegations that dems stole the election. Reps will congratulate their opponents, whereas dems sre always sore losers.
newsflash, this tv spot is evidence to the contrary, they are charging fraud and that repubs were disenfranchised. But according to you, their words are dripping with congratulations. Wake up, moron.
I would agree with you. But, I haven't seen Allen give a congratualatory speech to Webb, declaring him the victor? Instead, he'll drag this shit out until December....
When this happened to us dems, with the e-voting hacking we were called conspiracists. but now that this is happening, i hope something is done about it because dems are the bigger person!!!
when dems did this in 2000 and 04, we were called nutcases...the republican led congress did nothing to fix the problem...if pelosi wants a legacy, this should be the first item on the agenda
That's a hilarious question! Maybe he switched allegiances? Maybe he doesn't like them anymore? Or better yet, maybe he doesn't give a shit because he doesn't fucking exist? Either way, suck it republicans!
Everyone should have the right to vote, so I do hope that they investigate. That being said, the GOP has been pulling shadier sh-t than this for years.
Poetic justice. Payback's a bitch ain't it. Now that the dems control congress though, let's make sure that the same partisan bitchslapping ends now and let's fix this mess. If things don't change then we'll just have to rearrange congress again and again until they get the freakin' message. You work for us!
um, dude! This was one where it was a democrat's fault. Granted it's the only one I've found myself so far today and the Republican party is guilty of far worse and far more Vote tampering.
How something like this can happen on the most important event of the year is just mind boggling. I guess cheating is and always was how things go when it comes to politics. And I knew it was not on the Repubs, but I couldn't resist.
Many people in the military never got their ballots mailed to them. Chris Mathews said "So what? they can't vote now." The people fighting for our country deserve the right to vote.
Are the libs that were so outraged by voting fraud before the election going to investigate the voting fraud or are they going to ignore it because their party won?
kinda smells fishy then... almost a diversion tactic by republicans or some one else maybe... but if they called in investigators, better to be sure that no one is doing their monkey business... electoral fraud if prooven should be very punishable.
maybe republicans should have done something about voter disenfanchisement during their 6 year reign in the senate, the house, and executive branch. No, they said it didn't exist. They made their bed, now its time to sleep in the diebold madness they created.
BDG: both the county clerk and secretary of state are dems, dude. whether this was a deliberate act by either of those officials remains to be seen, but it doesn't matter if it was too much - these folks screwed up big time. having 1/10th the estimated ballots needed and failing to offer voters a provisional ballot is absolutely inexecusable. i do think, however, that this was straightened out in a short time and people were eventually able to vote.
As a democrat, I find this pretty disgusting. At the same time, maybe some repubs who have been asleep on this very issue now know what we've been bitching about.
Any informed person knows that the Democrats are the ones who cheat. Illegal immigrants, dead people, or what Gore tried to do.
He didn't want to recount all of Florida he only wanted to recount heavily Democrat districts. You always pick up some votes on a recount and if you only recount Democrat districts you'll only pick up Democrat votes.
Gore was the one trying to cheat. The Florida votes were recounted time and time again and never has Gore been shown the victor.
Swanzo 5 years ago
@Swanzo And Gore still got his ass kicked, giving us the greatest President in our history. We'd be in great shape now if Bush was still President. The Kenyan muzzie fucked America worse in 3 years than all of our of our enemies together could ever do.
DarrelfromZeeland 8 months ago
All the dems wine about voter fraud when they lose, looks like the real voter fraud is against Republicans. Just like when those republican vehicles had their tires slashed by the son of a black democrat--outcry? No. Hypocrites!
spanishviking777 5 years ago
The REAL voter fraud is against AMERICANS. You are short sighted if you see this as a partisan issue. Every American's voice should be heard. Dem, Repub, Commie, Libertarian, Socialist, even Nazi. If you pay your taxes then you have a stake in the system, regardless of ideology.
If ANYONE is not being heard, than the system is broken and needs to be fixed.
TheAngryRepublican 5 years ago
Not true, America has always had a two-party system. In France they tried your technique and it ended up getting even more partisan, more fighting, and no legislation passed.
spanishviking777 5 years ago
I know, and if people want to throw their vote away on the green ticket, then that is their choice. But they HAVE that vote to throw away. Our two party system is not perfect, but political systems are often steeped as heavily in tradition as utility.
TheAngryRepublican 5 years ago
KARMA>>>
huntaaar 5 years ago
Seriously? That is hilarious. But you can see how someone from elsewhere would think it was a cross? Circle, with four straight lines running up, down, left and right.
pyzmark 5 years ago
I agree, totally. Would like to see "in triplicate"...for the voter, a "lockbox" and independent printout verified.
Many of the electronic voting machines with no paper trail also came from Republican-dominated companies, including some from Diebold, whose owner, Wally O'Dell, infamously guaranteed in 2003 that he would deliver Ohio's electoral votes to Bush.
thechattanoogan 5 years ago
Is anyone bothered by the fact that there is a giant cross next to Decision '06?
pyzmark 5 years ago
only gop? did they have ballots for democrats lol
reality2uus 5 years ago
I feel the same way about this as I did when the Dems were whining about election fraud in '00 and '04 - politicians, ACCEPT the fact that you lost (us Republicans lost this time) and GET ON WITH GOVERNING. Quit worrying about political hair-splitting and DO YOUR JOBS.
Danno21F 5 years ago
so vote stealing and suppression is ok? i vote dem and this pisses me off-not just the fact that it happened, but the "it's not my fault" attutude. tolerating this means tolerating corruption in gov't, i dont care what party you back.
chinter 5 years ago
lol it's funny, it feels like 2000 and 2004 over again, exept now it's the republicans who are whining
pablosse 5 years ago
Wait...when the dems said this shit, it was blown off by repubs. Now that it happened to 'people who matter', it suddenly is real?
ycantibu 5 years ago
This is the same stupid DOUCHEBAG (Wilson) who made the whole Janet Jackson "NIPPLEGATE" a national issue. FUCK HER!
bluket 5 years ago
That first woman totally sounds like a dude.
aurisor 5 years ago
Funny, no one calls the GOP "conspiracy nuts" when they cry foul at the polls.
Election fraud is an AMERICAN ISSUE, not left, right, or center. We should all be concerned.
TheAngryRepublican 5 years ago
I have to agree with the Republican on this. When anyone wins due to voter fraud or election tampering, we all lose. But at the same time, I've never heard anyone (Republican or Democrat) say "We won! I think we should demand a recount!"
whatgodwantspart2 5 years ago
Who cares,people in the US aren't the only ones who want Bush out of power.
Saleucami 5 years ago
Let me guess. Singapore seeks to be the mext super power?
whatgodwantspart2 5 years ago
And your point is?
Saleucami 5 years ago
Yeah, but no one in America gives a $hit about what YOU want for our presidency, unless you are American. But if not, then go to hell.
TheAngryRepublican 5 years ago
AMEN to that!
convolved 5 years ago
I voted on an Accutron Diebold machine. No republicans said a word about it here in the Deep South...
thechattanoogan 5 years ago
Question, if the GOP was able to have a press conference, why didn't they just get extra ballots on the way there? And there were problems with the electric machines in some places, and they had to use paper ballots; there should have been a suitable alternative used here.
flavious27 5 years ago
I dismiss Fox, well unless I need a comedy break.
idahoMW 5 years ago
First thing to do is dismissing Fox from national TV channel!!
P3NT4G0N 5 years ago
ha ha ha ha ha. the worm turns.
mycatlilly 5 years ago
You go to vote with the ballots you have - ** NOT ** with the ballots you would like to have.
hiker64 5 years ago
There are alot of dems here that say that turning GOP voters away is just flat wrong. You didnt hear that in 2004 with all the e-voting frauds, we were called conspiracy nuts! Well i say ANY voter fraud/suppression should be investigated.. im tired of the corruption when it comes to voting.
damonsecloro 5 years ago
Ha, republicans are stupid. They are just making excuses to kill others different from them and their point of view for a defense purpose.
They are not humans but animals and animals can't live together with other species too. People like them should live in the jungle!
P3NT4G0N 5 years ago
wow, not human??
I would rather be an 'animal' than a human piece of trash like you. How dare you condemn others beliefs as if they should be animals.
You make me sick, you don't deserve the company of others.
bman9089 5 years ago
Democrats fight the Republicans,Republicans fight the Democrats.And people wonder why people don't give a shit about politics in this country?It's always the same shit!Pointing fingers and doing more in elections then they do in office!Oh and throwing money away on commercials that give citizens headaches.Can't forget that.
Moviebro 5 years ago
I love how the Democrats tell Republicans "cry cry", yet in 2000 and even 2004, they whine about the voter fraud. Voted fraud is ALWAYS wrong guys.
Ratzaroony 5 years ago
... yeah, but that county is Republican, and the Secretary of State, who ordered the reduction of provisional ballots, is a Republican.
TheRoundPeg 5 years ago
This should be investigated, and if anything illegal happened the people responsible should be held accountable. It doesn't matter which side does it, election fraud and vote suppression are wrong. That said, this seems more like incompetence than fraud, unlike the NH Repubs who were indicted for jamming Dem. phone banks, etc.
thucy2 5 years ago
How come Democrats in 2000 and 2004 say bush stole the election, when he actually won, But now when they finally win they say that the american people are finally tired of republicans. pure hypocrites, unlkie the dems you dont see republicans talking about a red-state secession or talking about lawsuits or allegations that dems stole the election. Reps will congratulate their opponents, whereas dems sre always sore losers.
vinnyflintoff 5 years ago
newsflash, this tv spot is evidence to the contrary, they are charging fraud and that repubs were disenfranchised. But according to you, their words are dripping with congratulations. Wake up, moron.
Uroshnor 5 years ago
I would agree with you. But, I haven't seen Allen give a congratualatory speech to Webb, declaring him the victor? Instead, he'll drag this shit out until December....
whatgodwantspart2 5 years ago
I'm not so sure. I thought he would, but rumor has it the RNC will pressure him to concede. Refusing, if they make the request, would be a bad move.
mtphz 5 years ago
Well he just admitted defeat.
vinnyflintoff 5 years ago
When this happened to us dems, with the e-voting hacking we were called conspiracists. but now that this is happening, i hope something is done about it because dems are the bigger person!!!
damonsecloro 5 years ago
this is nothing compared to the actual altering of laws that republicans have been doing specifically to disenfranchise dems.
splendidmike 5 years ago
when dems did this in 2000 and 04, we were called nutcases...the republican led congress did nothing to fix the problem...if pelosi wants a legacy, this should be the first item on the agenda
bacci40 5 years ago
yep, and let's ditch the electoral college while we're at it.
splendidmike 5 years ago
Cry cry. Hypocrites.
donationH 5 years ago
How could God allow this to happen to Conservative white people!
dejahthoris 5 years ago
lol
pongman 5 years ago
That's a hilarious question! Maybe he switched allegiances? Maybe he doesn't like them anymore? Or better yet, maybe he doesn't give a shit because he doesn't fucking exist? Either way, suck it republicans!
Uroshnor 5 years ago
Everyone should have the right to vote, so I do hope that they investigate. That being said, the GOP has been pulling shadier sh-t than this for years.
salndean 5 years ago
hahaha!! cant believe you mofo's allowed yourself to be lead into the ground by bush!
morsosky 5 years ago
the NYTimes recounted every ballot in state of FL through a private organization and guess waht bush. still won FL's popular vote
PoppyTt 5 years ago
Are you kidding? Reps getting got. Geez
athena315 5 years ago
WOW. feels shitty doesn't it ya fuckers?
sterlingturk 5 years ago
Poetic justice. Payback's a bitch ain't it. Now that the dems control congress though, let's make sure that the same partisan bitchslapping ends now and let's fix this mess. If things don't change then we'll just have to rearrange congress again and again until they get the freakin' message. You work for us!
poshzombie 5 years ago
Republicans, remember Florida?
amendonca 5 years ago
Repubs will stop at nothing to get elected. Good thing it didn't work.
WE WIN
WE WIN
WE WIN
WE WIN
WE WIN
burntonion 5 years ago
um, dude! This was one where it was a democrat's fault. Granted it's the only one I've found myself so far today and the Republican party is guilty of far worse and far more Vote tampering.
VMartin70 5 years ago
How something like this can happen on the most important event of the year is just mind boggling. I guess cheating is and always was how things go when it comes to politics. And I knew it was not on the Repubs, but I couldn't resist.
burntonion 5 years ago
I'm pretty sure this is a big problem no matter who it happens too.
simcityaustin 5 years ago
Many people in the military never got their ballots mailed to them. Chris Mathews said "So what? they can't vote now." The people fighting for our country deserve the right to vote.
Are the libs that were so outraged by voting fraud before the election going to investigate the voting fraud or are they going to ignore it because their party won?
Enders69 5 years ago
You reap what you sow. I'm sure this is only the beginning, you can't get away with dirt forever and not have it come back.
rashb 5 years ago
jeez, that's a woman?
jotang74 5 years ago
i dont feel sorry for those neo nazi scumbag republicans...but this is clearly wrong
ai565ai565 5 years ago
Aah poor little Republicans can't vote for more elitism, corruption and Halliburton...
madkaffir 5 years ago
kinda smells fishy then... almost a diversion tactic by republicans or some one else maybe... but if they called in investigators, better to be sure that no one is doing their monkey business... electoral fraud if prooven should be very punishable.
chachalaca777 5 years ago
maybe republicans should have done something about voter disenfanchisement during their 6 year reign in the senate, the house, and executive branch. No, they said it didn't exist. They made their bed, now its time to sleep in the diebold madness they created.
kingvitaman 5 years ago
okay this may be just a small, local incident, but it's outrageously ridiculous
ericeberg 5 years ago
BDG: both the county clerk and secretary of state are dems, dude. whether this was a deliberate act by either of those officials remains to be seen, but it doesn't matter if it was too much - these folks screwed up big time. having 1/10th the estimated ballots needed and failing to offer voters a provisional ballot is absolutely inexecusable. i do think, however, that this was straightened out in a short time and people were eventually able to vote.
ibjessemon 5 years ago
Or maaaaybe.. just mayyybe.. It was an honest fuck up.. I mean.. Gov't employees screwing somethign up?! UNHEARD OF!
:)
morel42 5 years ago
whatever, this is idiotic... repubs swept that state so it doesn't even matter.
wschalle 5 years ago
Ahhh, so all of a sudden Republicans care. Now that vote fraud finally happens in a Republican district.
gavtronics 5 years ago
Haha, the GOP gets a taste of their own medicine. The GOP can't even handle a legal election within their own districts.
dan428 5 years ago
If they cant vote they cant vote. They didn't have enough money to go around from all the tax cuts that EVERONE had to have.
Its not a damn red-blue issue its a issue of retards who don't know what the fuck they are doing (both democrats and republicans)
sobman 5 years ago
It's okay since it's a republican getting screwed. I would be outraged if this happened to a democrat.
diamondblings 5 years ago
Is that the best outlook?
shoeshinecs 5 years ago
I wouldn't be surprised if the republicans set this up themselves.
cedqwig 5 years ago
As a democrat, I find this pretty disgusting. At the same time, maybe some repubs who have been asleep on this very issue now know what we've been bitching about.
futureshocked 5 years ago
Sounds like this was negligence, not intentional manipulation. Still inexcusable.
sidiggy1 5 years ago
More Democrat dirty tricks. I'd also check and see how many dead people voted.
Swanzo 5 years ago
..for both sides.
This looks a bit fishy.
Zea107 5 years ago
More Republican dirty tricks. I'd also check and see how many dead people voted.*** fixed.
BeyondDGrave 5 years ago
yeah...you get right on that
gavtronics 5 years ago
... yeah, but that county is Republican, and the Secretary of State, who ordered the reduction of provisional ballots, is a Republican.
TheRoundPeg 5 years ago
Hard to call this a Democratic dirty trick given that fact. Thanks TheRoundPeg.
sidiggy1 5 years ago