Excerpts From Arizona's Immigration Law Training Video

[theologistix]

omfg

[M4rkB4rden]

appalling. so the message is "racial profiling is wrong because it can damage your career and public trust, force your superiors to lie and cover up your misconduct, and eliminate your retirement benefits. however, it's a great way to deport illegals." racists' logic hurts my brain.

[Michael117american]

racial profiling is wrong? i never knew that, thanks for the training video. What a joke, Brewer has to go.

[Wintermute01001]

Sheriff Paul Babeu just appeared on The Political Cesspool, a white nationalist radio show, to promote SB1070. He even called the host a "great American." I think that should lay to rest all doubts that this new law is about race.

[southernboygonebad]

I love the new AZ immigration law, and I trust our local law enforcement!

Bear Down Arizona Wildcats! Beat ASU, and let's go to the 2011 Rose Bowl!

[nailo1]

is that last 20 secs real. did they admit on a training video of how they would cover it up.

[jerrydff7]

i hate the arizona Immigration La !

[gazaguy]

We know her as the Statue of Liberty... A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore, Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

[CoconutHead79]

ok so he says that distrust is unearned, but then he puts on a fat cop to say that profiling has always been an issue and that it erodes public trust... WELL that is why people dont trust cops. OH OOOPS i thought that was my taser and oscar grant dies...hmmm cops are scary.

[NEWSwithATTITUDE]

~•~

PEOPLE, PEOPLE,

When stopped 4 some BS reason, U have the right 2:

•ALWAYS Stop in a well lid, populated area.

C D flashing lights, decrease UR speed, drive towards the nearest gas station, then stop.

•RECORD everything during your stop.

UR phone's video camera is your best witness. An accurate account of the events.

& DON't B AFRAiD 2 take UR case 2 Court. No matter how minor it may seem.

Every case needs 2 go on the records.

~•~

[NEWSwithATTITUDE]

_DiD U KNOW?...

In Maricopa County,out of 100 BS traffic stops(crack on window) the sheriff dept makes, 97 people R brown and only 3 R white.

»Of course U did if U R hispanic & living in AZ.

_DiD U KNOW?..

Law Enforcement in AZ voted to get rid of the police cars video cameras?

»They interfered with their report accounts(lies).

[NIKKEIsix]

PEOPLE, D POWER IS IN UR HANDS.

•VIDEO EVERY STOP(cell phone)

•STOP ONLY IN POPULATED AREAS(gas station)

•HAVE A WITNESSES(buddy system)

& DON't B afraid 2 go 2 COURT. JUDGES have D law degrees & D LAST WORD. Cocks HATE That!

~• LET THERE B LIGHT •~

[hydrolito]

@paulb10486 illegal are less likely to report other illegal breaking the law so the statistics are off how is an illegal immigrant wife going to report her illegal immigrant husband abusing her without exposing the fact she is there illegally? Besides if they are there illegally they have already broken the law.

[paulb10486]

According to the nonpartisan Immigration Policy Institute, proponents of the bill "overlook two salient points: Crime rates have already been falling in Arizona for years despite the presence of unauthorized immigrants, and a century's worth of research has demonstrated that immigrants are less likely to commit crimes or be behind bars than the native-born."

[DarthKap]

@paulb10486 So let me get this straight. Someone enters the country illegally and then gains access to the system without paying anything into it isn't breaking the law? Or is more we don't misbehave so we don't get caught already breaking the law.

[paulb10486]

@DarthKap

first of all, the notion that illegal immigrants are draining our resources alone is nonsense. states are broke for far different reasons (ie health care expenses, reduction of state revenues, prison costs, etc.). lets also remember that these people also pay taxes, whether its through the consumption tax or, for those with fraudulent ss cards, the social security and income tax. the reality is, we will never get rid of this problem. we must find a way for easier citizenship

[DarthKap]

@paulb10486 Wow... you mean the fact in 2006 we had 37.5 million LEGAL immigrants enter this country isn't enough? We were #1 worldwide for immigrants, but that still isn't enough for you? How many million do you think we can afford to enter into this country and be on the system?

As for citizenship. Well I can apply and take the test over the Internet. Not to mention our citizenship laws are nothing compared to Mexcio's.

[hydrolito]

@paulb10486 Prison cost from high crime rate much of which is there illegally. Need to enforce the law not make excuses for people violating it.

[paulb10486]

@killergames187

Pew Research:

“Latinos...are a highly flexible, highly exploitable work force, a buffer to economic downturns,” he says. “Many of the industries here – agriculture, service industries, low-end manufacturing, construction – are massively dependent on undocumented workers.

“If I were able to conduct an experiment and pay all of Arizona’s undocumented workers to not work for two weeks, the economy would come to a screeching, crashing halt instantaneously.”

[DarthKap]

@paulb10486 Oh noes! The world is coming to an end.

[paulb10486]

@killergames187

wow, you a moron. first of all, its "just", not "jest". as for for your comment, your analysis is completely unfounded. in fact, i feel dumber after reading it. the reality is shipping these people off will cost over a $100 billion, it would reduce consumer spending by several points, increase prices on almost everything, and decrease tourism. remember, as long as you criminalize behavior, it will remain hidden and increase the potential for violent crime

[a7green]

....... Somebody give that piggy @ 0:35 a Fitness video.

[GaoWenzhong]

police are thugs, not victims

[paulb10486]

@killergames187

you do understand that if texas were to hypothetically run out all the illegal immigrants, the states entire economy would collapse, right? 

[RAPMONSTAR]

WOW!!

[NoHaloAbove]

@joshpnw you must be some short skinny little fuck to be afraid of "gangs" in San Diego. I grew up in San Diego and i have never been threaten nor have I've been harassed by other people of color.  How about you grow a pair and stop whining like some kind of child online?

US.ARMY AIRBORNE ~

[JoeyQue]

@joshpnw ahahah nice reply still avoiding the question you cant prove what you have been asked so you miss direct the question and as for the pussy comment i don't even consider it a insult coming from someone whom is to much of a pussy to walk around "SD" . I'm from San Diego and have never heard any of what you have "claimed to be true" yet have no proof . Cry wolf somewhere else no one believes your bullshit here. boohoo he told me to stick my body up my ass cry more pussy.

[delreydavid]

@joshpnw Sorry for calling you a joke and tough guy comment. I reacted that way cause I know that area, and wanted to defend SD, sorry for the disrespect.

As far as the rest of your point, it is valid. 4 friends and I were assaulted and chased out of West Philly just for being white. It was even told to us. "Get your white asses out of here!" was what the dude said as he broke my friends nose.

True story, but that was West Philly not SD. I have never felt that in SD.

[tinywentz]

S.O.S shoot -on-site.

[DillonDee1]

Don't travel through Arizona.

Even if you're white, the cops will have to hassel you.

If they don't & only hassel brown-skinned people they'll be found guilty of racial profiling.

And don't think having a Driver's License will give you a pass because a # of states give Driver Licenses to illegal.

BEST JUST TO AVOID DRIVING THROUGH THE STATE.

[JoeyQue]

@joshpnw nice excuse its obvious your a internet troll do me a favor and see if u can stick your entire body up your ass because i can tell your head is already up that far.

[mrcartoonmusicvideo]

SOVEREIGNTY. I carry my paper with me, I'm not afraid to be asked to prove i'm a citizen, why,because I am. I'm moving to Arizona to fight for the sovereignty of this country. look up the word

[Dajuro]

They imported themselves = they can deport themselves.

No one brought the illegal aliens here.

I'm sure they can find their way home when no one will hire them

[youcutmelegoff]

What is to stop an illegal immigrant from lying and saying he is an US citizen and will not show the police officer any ID without a warrant singed by a judge? And under what justification could that warrant be signed? the suspect was immigrant looking?

[Dajuro]

I wonder what the citizens of Mexico would say, if 20 million citizens of China,

illegally entered Mexico,

started forming gangs,

began murdering Mexican citizens,

began dealing drugs to Mexican teenagers,

marched in the streets, waving the flag of China,

and started demanding that Mexican children be taught how to speak Chinese?

Somehow - I don't think they would be supporting the Chinese illegals - do you?

[Seldona]

@Dajuro

So you would set our standard of governance on Mexican government policy? Not one that thinks things through often, are you?

[Dajuro]

Why isn't Obama suing Mexico?

Their immigration policies are much harsher than Arizona's.

[steveoboston]

"If [racial profiling] is done, reports must then be falsified to cover it up; internal affairs statements might have to be fabricated; testimony at trials perjured."

Didn't this guy just finish talking about how much integrity, honor and professionalism cops have? Then he lists crimes he expects them to commit after they inevitably violate someone's civil rights.

Surprised he didn't continue with "...guns and drugs must be planted on the body; witnesses must be coerced or threatened."

[IntroToYourPsych]

This law allows officers to check the immigration status of anyone who is stopped by the police FOR SOME OTHER SEASON SUCH AS speeding or jaywalking. The law itself says that officers cannot racially profile the suspect and that's of course bullshit because no officer is going to ask a white guy with no accent for papers or take him to immigration jail for not providing residency papers. The target of this hate-filled bill are Hispanics.

[bleunt]

@upsettingthetown Yeah! Showing political dissent is sooo 1960's and worn out! Only time you should express your opinions is quietly in the voting booth.

[bleunt]

"OMG how can they not trust us with this!" Like they take it personal.

[rjanis123]

so, it's now ILLEGAL to be illegal??

[soundsliketruck]

Arizona has a majority of Americans support.

Hope they secure the border now.

[OliverKillborne]

@soundsliketruck how the fuck do you know what the majority of americans support. did the voice in your head tell you?

[2bRealist]

@upsettingthetown Your white.. aren't you ;-)

[bushputz]

Once again, fact mimics fiction:

watch?v=zXIy9_HRWeQ

[JIYkp]

There aren't enough stories about the number of people being detained and then found to be legal citizens of America. But I wan't to hear stories of cops stopping someone and then finding out that person actually does have their birth certificate on them. Someone should upload a video of that. Let's laugh at AZ cops together!

[2bRealist]

@JIYkp lol

[scbluesman13]

@BeatManSpank

Yeah, it's kinda funny. But once in a while you get that cop that's just fishin' and fishin' and you get the feeling like they don't wanna drive away unless you're in their backseat. Those are the guys and freak me out.

[scbluesman13]

@BeatManSpank

I guess Im just kinda numb to the racial profiling thing. It's happened to me so much at this point I just expect it.

[stochasticmonk]

Racial profiling is bad, Mkay?

[scbluesman13]

Just being pulled over doesn't mean you're being racially profiled. But there are ways you can tell egit the stop is like the questions the cop asks you, or what he's stopping you for. If he says they stopped you for speeding and you were doing 3 mph over, profiling might be the real cause. If they start asking you questions as if they're assuming you're coming from a specific location that's a ways away, but your ethnicity "matches" folks they find there, that's another tip-off.

[mikebee02]

Something tells me this could use some context.

[delreydavid]

@joshpnw I see your point, but think using SD as an example was a poor choice. I have seen exactly what you are referring to in the south. It is very, very, segregated down there. I gave a black co worker a ride home to his neighborhood, and he told me that I was safe as long as I was with him, and not to stop any where on my way out.

[OliverKillborne]

@joshpnw LOL it's been so long i had to google it. logan heights. wow, what a pussy. i used to work there in that little plaza next to the coronado bridge ramp... you know the one with the murals around the tennis courts... i got off the trolly at barrio logan every day for two years, and been all over that area. 

so i am now and have been 100% sure you are full of shit. your just a limpdick racist.

sorry :[

btw, i went to mar vista, and yes i am from san diego.

[delreydavid]

@joshpnw you are a joke! You are taliking about Imperial and Euclid? If that is the best you can do? Maybe you are too scared to go there cause there are black people there, but there are asians, whites, and hispanics that live there, too. That neighborhood is nothing compared to other places in the country. Try Detroit, west Philly, 5th ward in Houston, New Orleans, and Cincinatti. Dont try to paint SD as some hood to make yourself look tough.

[philly1537]

cant hear shit

[OliverKillborne]

@joshpnw would you like me to attack your typing mistakes? is that all you got? keyboard warrior? you just proved my point again.

ok, so let's assume that i'm not from san diego. i just want to visit. tell me which neighborhoods to avoid.

you can't. you won't. you keep dodging the question, putting up red herrings like "you won't understand if your not from here," or "you made a typing mistake."

GET TO THE POINT fucko. how racists are you, exactly?

[Wintermute01001]

At 1:26, you can hear his implicit racist assumption that everyone vulnerable to racial profiling is here illegally.

Also, I love how he actually gives advice on how to avoid getting fired for racial profiling.

[Gark50]

Bullshit. That'sexactly what this immigration bill is is racial profiling. I'll bet you my mortgage they will only use this law against Mexicans or people that 'look' illegal. What the hell do you call that?

[TrollBuster9090]

Translation: PLEASE don't make us look like idiots. I mean...if you see a big latino guy driving an expensive car, just make sure it's not Bill Richardson before hauling him out and frisking him for drugs.

[JoeyQue]

@joshpnw i call bullshit on this? show me links about "sudden attacks on others based on skin color "within a certain area of SD". 

[OliverKillborne]

@joshpnw you can't say you warn "new people" about the dangerous neighborhoods and then go oh, you not from here so you won't understand.

fucking idiot.

[bigc028282]

You would know it was something real if the "new" law was: 5yrs for owners and CEO's per "ILLEGAL". US citizenship for Social Services and education. THAT WAS EASY. The problem then fixes its self. This is all BS for agenda's like "National ID", amnesty / immunity, and votes for f*ctards who don't represent the people.

[delreydavid]

@OliverKillborne If you really think that he got shot at on Skyline for driving a nice car, wouldn't that prove his point?

[OliverKillborne]

@delreydavid yeah... it would to a small extent. i was exaggerating a little bit. i've literally never heard of that actually happening. i have some friends that live there too.

[OliverKillborne]

@joshpnw your saying that these so called "off limit" neighborhoods are only reserved for people who are from sd? don't give me your bullshit gangster politics either. i know it all too well.

you don't just get jumped because your in the wrong neighborhood, you have to do something first, like piss someone off. like you are pissing me off.

i bet YOU aren't allowed in a lot of neighborhoods.

[Boomer1949]

Oh Man, wrong answer !!

[Richardgwm]

Dr. King could bring down this law in a single weekend. Bus in thousands of volunteers to walk into police stations across the state sans ID.

"the only way we're going to break Birmingham is to fill the jails." - Dr. King

[antipyrene]

@joshpnw no thats not common sense, thats racist paranoia...because its a "black" area doesn't necessarily mean its dangerous, if it is dangerous, doesn't mean one would be inevitably be attacked...you can be mugged in the rich white part of town, common sense is taking reasonable precautions, and keeping the actual risk in mind, rather writing off whole sections of a community

[antipyrene]

The problem is they have yet to define what standards on which they can stop people, i.e. what the hell does "looking like an illegal immigrant" mean...this is open door for racist attitudes to manifest themselves

[QuasiEvilScott]

Soooo... the crux of this video is:

"We're gonna get accused of racial profiling whether or not we do it, so do it, but dont get CAUGHT doing it - always appear like you're not racially profiling, especially if you are."

[OliverKillborne]

@joshpnw you are so full of shit. what area of san diego are you not allowed to go?

[SJamesGray]

What's respectable? Overturning this law.

[bradthompson86]

That was good, right? They were training their officers not to profile based on race. Good for them.

[borderraven]

What is the statute or codes that cover racial profiling?

Is racial profiling a training syllabus, a misdemeanor or a felony?

Does the officer get a slap on the wrist, jail time or a prison sentence?

[SubmarinerAndroid]

I love how cops act like victims.

There is an epidemic of police violence in this country--and countless videos of it, right here on YouTube

[donhector87]

@ 1:05

So this is how racial profiling is usually covered up? hmm....

[rufayel]

I used to subscribe to this channel, when they were doing honest filtering of media clips. SInce then they (TPMTV) have become more interested in creating a national media profile for themselves, getting their "reporters" on tv, and they do nothing but watch tv to be called "reporters". What a joke. Study on study.

[santasxgirlfriend]

show me somebody not guilty of making an assumption about someone because of their appearance and ill show you a blind person-its humanly impossible to not judge someone because of the way they look- train officers to not make assumptions only on race- -they should know better or not be a damn cop! but if the illegals would stay the hell out of the us until they could come in legally and be part of the us instead of an invading leeching horde of criminals we wouldnt have this problem!

[strong8action]

@santasxgirlfriend well said, baby

[2bRealist]

@GrandArchitect3D like what ??

[borderraven]

See

Legal Analysis of Arizona’s S.B. 1070 for the US Congress

fasDOTorg/sgp/crs/homesec/R412­21.pdf

See

scribdDOTcom/doc/33483116

MAP: USA Rule of Law and Sanctuary Cities

bitDOTly/cPYVZk

[gamoonbat]

@GrandArchitect3D - It certainly does inform the officers of what they may need to do should they be caught at racial profiling while applying SB 1070.

[tradernorton05]

I support Arizona 100 percent for defending themselves against the cancer of illegal immigration.

The law has NOTHING to do with race or color.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@tradernorton05

It's not a cancer. It's no more of a cancer than legal immigration was 100 years ago when it was easy to come here.

I live in AZ. It's not dangerous here and statistics back that up, our crime is going down, and it was never really higher than average to begin with.

These people take huge risks, a lot of effort, and spend a lot of money to get here. They don't want to fuck it up, so they do what we want them to-work, be honest, and respect us.

It's not a cancer.

[gamoonbat]

Whether or not racial profiling occurs or not is not the problem. The problem is the perception of racial profiling by the public both inside and outside of the state of Arizona. If Arizona loses tourists then the state will not be able to hire more police officers or by more equipment for the officers who are working for the state today.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@gamoonbat

That is true. It's totally about perception, and that's what worries me. I think a lot of these cops have a very limited, extreme idea of what racial profiling is and they have already shown that here in AZ in a lot of cases.

Anyone can be MISTAKENLY profiled. A guy who looks like me could commit a crime and I could become a suspect, maybe even get charged with it. But that is not the same as RACIAL profiling people. I hope they understand that difference.

[gamoonbat]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder - My post was sarcastic. I am totally opposed to racial profiling, and this video makes it clear how little concern there is in Arizona on the part of law enforcement. They are ONLY concerned about the perception and how that will affect their budget and their salaries.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@gamoonbat

Well it didn't sound sarcastic and it also didn't sound like you supported the bill. It sounded like you had a problem with it, and you had a good insight in to why you had a problem with it.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@gamoonbat

In other words, I was complimenting your post, not refuting it.

[gamoonbat]

@IAMtheNewWorldOrder - Right. It is awfully difficult to make sense of the thread with all these posts. The video is deceptive and dangerously clever.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

@gamoonbat

It really is. I think racism & fascism are kind of thriving under this new revelation they have had that as long as they don't explicitly say the wrong things, they can still execute their agendas. They all understand the code.

[starcatcher7777]

@GrandArchitect3D :

What about them ? You mean the Black Panthers and Obama voter fraud ?

[Jujuman2003]

This racist law will be struck down just like California's Prop 187. For appealing to the teabaggers in her state, Brewer will be disgraced in history much like Peter Wilson in California. The Republicans will lose the Hispanic vote forever, and the Republican Party, after a generation, will die in Arizona much like it has in California. This is probably the dumbest self-inflicted wound to the Republican Party in awhile.

[IAMtheNewWorldOrder]

Oh god this is fucking pathetic. They're pre-excusing everyone. "No matter what, people will say we are racial profiling."

This shouldn't have ANY opinions in it. Only information. "THIS is racial profiling. THIS is what you don't do, THIS is what you can do."

If you watch a training video at Burger King they don't say "Customers will say you messed up their order even if you got it right. You are working hard to make their sandwich, and you know you never mess up an order."

[MooseOfReason]

One question: How long is the "racial profiling" section of the training video?

[Wintermute01001]

Google: Abdon Arizona birth certificate.

[hossboss96]

"look we got a black guy and a hispanic, of course we arent racist." really throws us off the trail with that dude in the middle telling us hes felt the pain of racial profiling

[strong8action]

@hossboss96 Can anyone tell me what "racial profiling" actually IS??? because they didn't define it? I think "racial profiling" is whenever a white officer arrests a non white criminal, so the criminal tries to get out of trouble by accusing people of "racial profiling"

[robinvan1983]

@strong8action no exactly it is basically any officer profiling a certain race more than other because of the suspect that they are more criminal than other races...

[2bRealist]

@strong8action

My experience with racial profiling is getting pulled over NOT for doing something wrong, but because of what I look like..

After it becomes obvious that not only I'm I NOT ILLEGAL, and NOT A GANG MEMBER.. then the cop refers to "I thought you seatbelt was off" or "Your plate wasn't visible" or any other pity last minute excuse

So yes.. it's easy to say "What racial profiling" if you have NEVER been racially profiled.. but when it happens... it's sick and WRONG

[abitar65]

@2bRealist Same thing happened to me and my brother in South Dakota. Their excuse was that my brothers license plates didn't come up in his computer. They were specialty plates that said Seahawks on it!

I'm Arikara (Native American) and I want to go to Arizona so I can start my lawsuit against them and collect lots and lots of money!

[strong8action]

@2bRealist You sound like my friend kenny, always bitching about how he's been the victim of "racial profiling" because a white cop pulled him over. Naturally, when challenged on how he "knew" the cop was racially profiling, kenny couldn't answer. He's been conditioned to think he's a victim of racism when, in fact, the car wasn't in his name & his tags were expired! Besides, if people "of color" stoped commiting crimes at three times the rate of whites, racial profiling would be irrelevant.

[2bRealist]

@strong8action And you sound.... "white" =p

[Gwish]

who is the guy at 0:53 telling us what he knows? There is no title for who is or what his job is. He does not state clearly what side of racial profiling he is on. Whats the point of him in the video?

[gamoonbat]

@Gwish - That is the negro, right?

[Gwish]

@gamoonbat yes, why is the negro in the video?

[hha6]

@Gwish -- it seems now that some African-Americans are in desperate need for finances. So much, they have forgotten the experience of being racially profiled. Look up Ward Connerly and Affirmative Action, he is the front man to eliminating this law. In my opinion, Connerly sold-out and is being paid by the hate groups. Now a days, it is a game of coincidence to see the foot-steps of these hate groups. What a coincidence that Connerly is black and an educator.

[chaossource]

This country was founded on the idea that we cannot trust authority with power, this is precisely why the bill of rights was made. We the people must be allowed to criticize the government, we must be allowed our privacy from government intrusion, our beliefs cannot be legislated, we must be able to arm ourselves against the government, government accusation must be made publicly and tried against our own peers, punishment cannot be inhumane. This law violates these rights.

[kaysandesses]

Did anyone notice that at about 1:10 he was telling officers how to get away with racial profiling, e.g. falsifying reports, fabricating IA reports, and false testimony? I'm not saying that was his intention though.

[NWKBricks1]

@kaysandesses

Yea, I had to listen to that twice. I am surprised that there weren't many comments about what he said.

[gamoonbat]

@kaysandesses - I think that he was trying to build rapport with them, to show them that he understands how they operate and has walked in their shoes.

[kaysandesses]

@gamoonbat I agree; he wasn't trying to tell them how "cheat", I just thought it was kind of funny.

[Theblizzardking]

Welcome to 1984!

[CliveSinclairZX]

wow, what a load of bull