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  • btw dudes why you discuse what is best 4 pvp and pve/raids? omg frost is questing and good for pvp because of the defensive but a good fire mage is better in pvp then a bad frostmage so it doesnt matter what u use for pvp then arcane is highest dmg against singletargets lige bosses fire is aoe speak against much enemys cuz of living bomb and frostfire is biggest krits an a very fun specc. to bad they kill frostfire with cataclysm....

  • i think frostfire mage is better then fire mage in raids i mean... you just do ffb instead of fireball and do higher krits as with pyroblast ^^ cool video

  • Is it good to keep fireblast off cooldown too?

  • I now understand why you never talked before, your accent makes me wanna nuke The UK

  • @g3Vega but why :( do u want to nuke the UK for letting all of us being able to speak English as we do now on the internet so we can understand eachother? xD

  • @runescapeglobeskate No we don't talk English because of them, we broke of and lost our little 2 year old accent 

  • @g3Vega btw I'm not trying to start a fight or something :P

    And I agree he sounds abit stupid...

  • you sound like you are forced to do this or relly relly sleepy .....

  • WTB English!!!

  • when this guy talks he sounds like hes chewing gum and spitting everywhere =_=

  • Zzzzzzzzzz

    

  • Even tho its old Ffb rocks ass compared to any other specc in raids - No Doubt Promte! If any1 thinks not, please prove, or shut up!

  • @Ridiculousness1985 Err. Well. Arcane is actually top DPS, as every min/max site will tell you. Nearest to Arcane is FB/TTW, then Frostfire. So.

  • have you people seen the new rogue hack that will let you cheat in arena? it is astounding, my own rogue is in maximum arena pvp gear 2200 rating! i dont actually really want to talk about this but what the hell.. you can aquire it at wowcheatsYnet (replace Y with . ) but dont tell too many people!

  • änd you definitly need glyphs- ffb molten armor and living bomb not scorch..

  • i had dps 5400 at raid with fire mage 1800bd.... you guys are doing weird vids in here :)

  • well nice video but show spec and gear and stats nexttime

  • i looked on the sidebar on the website but i couldnt find your spec link me your armory please

  • FFB is so fucking fail now.

  • YEAH THAT IS RIGHT EVERYONE SAY THAT FIRE IS FUN AND COOL TO PLAY

    coz i like it too

  • Nice video man, I'm wanting to go FFB spec at 75 ~_^

  • his accent is awesome

  • comments like yours are so fucking annoying

  • i love how it takes you like 3:30min just to start to get to the point

  • you say its good dmg but not good dps ?

    can you explain ?

    i mean big damage increase dmg per sec so ....

  • he means it's bigger crits but lower dps where as arcane is lower crits but you hit more often and in the end, do more dps

  • they removed glyph of improved scorch ? :S

  • improved scorch talent has been reworked

  • ugh a troll .. but anyway not bad at all man ;)

  • @sKaXz trolls are the best race man.

  • i think FFB is best ^^

  • 5/5! Keep play Troll! <3

  • 5/5 spec plz?

  • try not to eat food or whatever you doing. grossed me out there

  • ofc its bad.... troll mage :P

  • @ssijmnie if u dnt like trolls u fail at life mate

  • Agreed 100%, its hilariously bad.

  • arcane is best for dps atm. if you specc and you dont know to much about the specc itself u might run oom fast but now i do 4k dps 2k sp unbuffed

  • yeh i have 2.4k sp unbuffed i need moar! :D

  • yemenio is my name on wow eu, you should spec me on wowarmory.. alot of dps depends on yout gear. in 25 man raid with best gear arcane can do around 11k dps, (highest ive seen without AoE) also my highest crit is 28k with my gear in 25 man fll buffed...

  • @LukeD1uk wht addons do u have for your character box in top left corner? basically i want to see my hp %

  • well FFB is better if u are JUST getting geared since it doesn't take that much mana and it does decent dmg and crits once u get geared in naxx 25 gear then go arcane otherwise u waste tons of mana as arcane right off the bat

  • @stijngeertshuis since you made this post, fireball has shined in raids, all the top dps mages are fire

  • I need to reédit my first post abit: whenever you do not have alot of mana regen and int. you should definatly specc fire since arcane consumes alot of mana.. whenever you aquired enough int/mana regen you should gear up with about 30 -40 crit change 3 - 4k sp and 700 - 800 haste and specc and learn the rotation of a arcane mage with a little bonus points of fire/frost just to increase your spell dmg. ---------> 1/2

  • READ OTHER POST FIRST!

    since then my mage does around 15k DPS in normal 25 raid bosses. I DO NOT say fire is a bad talent I just say arcane would best better once used by a good player;) (also need to say that I recently quited wow ) :) 2/2

  • @stijngeertshuis you do not do 15k on a normal raid boss, the highest recorded dps on the lich king 25man is 12.9k according to wowmetersonline... i'm not discounting that you do great dps, i'm just saying that since the patch you made your initial comment on, fire spec has pulled ahead on the dps charts, all specs do awesome damage, just saying what has made the records. take a look at that wowmetersonline site, it's pretty cool actually

  • Arcane good in raids, BAD IN DPS ?

    You sir, are doing it wrong.

  • not sure when i said that, but i run arcane in raids top 10 all the time in pugs mainly 1st in my guild top 10 allways

  • 0:56

  • @Inavitago I think he said better but with his accept and stufffffffff

  • Indeed u talk to much..

  • Yeah he talks for too long at the start. Still a good video though.

  • nice, take them noobs to school

  • waaay too much talking, just annoying to watch.

  • stfu gook

  • I have tried both FFB spec and arcane/frost spec. I think arcane is much better and much funner to use, FFB spec is for those whos new the mage raiding, arcane require much more skills.

  • whats TTW?

  • Torment of the weak, its a talent in the arcane tree.

  • what do u do with glyph what are they for

  • Thank you, You have really helped on your 2 guides (this one and arcane one)

  • This is again the best dps spec because of the changes to living bomb

  • ttw is the best.

  • its below TTW/Fireball for most fights

  • if frost is pvp

    and arcane is pve/raid

    then fire...

  • Is also PvE.

  • Fire is dead now :/

  • I do feel that Icy Veins + Arcane is very nice due to the haste of the troll..

  • he should be using glyph of living bomb instead of scorch.

  • To everyone not understanding the "Arcane does more dps but less damage" Means that Arcane is GREAT dps, but it is very mana inefficient, so your mana won't last very long. If you could get an innervate on a bit of a longer fight then you would be golden. But chances are druids will tell you to fuck yourself and give it to a priest.

  • i hate this

  • then why the fuck did you click on this vid

  • well i dont really get it... are you talking about hte difference in being the #1 on recount and being the #1 dps (beginning of vid)??

  • subscribed!

  • i have a frost pve spec that pumps out 4k deeps, but only with bloodlust popped :/

  • whats ur name so i can look u up in armory??

  • hey dude i used to have a lvl 48 undead mage which was acranefrost talent tree and i have to make a new character today so i dunno what kinda race i should pick personally i think undeads are the best but any help on trolls or blood elves would be awesome

    also nice tips 5 stars

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  • so whats the best spec for a mage im making soon?.

  • for leveling you wanna go frost.

    once you hit 80 and start doing HC's and raids go frostfire untill you get some nice gear then go for arcane. you can go arc or frost in pvp i prefure frost atm.

  • Atm, Blizz is trying to make Frost moreviable for PvE and Fire more viable for PvP.

    Ive seen good PvP fire mages but its impossible to do decent DPS as Frost in raids.

  • i do 5k+ dps as frost in 25s o.0

  • Yeah, fucking right.

    Is that per second? Boss DPS? Or the DPS you recorded for the whole raid.

    Cause youre only supposed to record DPS done on Bosses, everything else doesnt matter.

  • frost is viable in pve... u probly just suck at it

  • Its not viable in raids at all. Its decent for heroics and normal dungeons. Frost rotation is just spamming Frostbolt, using your pet when needed, and popping trinkets and icy veins.

    And when you proc fingers of frost, pop ice lance right after.

    Its really not viable for PvE, if you can link me a recount where youre even in the top 10 in raids, then Ill shut up.

  • you clearly dont know how to play a mage.

    1.8 secs frostbolts... fireball procs

    icelance(glyphed)... fingers of frost

    12k frostbolts 10k icelances 8k fireballs...

    l2play your mage

  • i agree with discoptimusprime.. (btw your name makes no sence, something about transformers?) that frost is not good in raids.. arcane and frostfire specs r much better.. im not really gonna explain myself, cuz any good mages already know the reasoning

  • My name makes no sense, roll with it.

  • frost is better than arcane but does not surpass fire in OVERALL dmg in a current fight.

    go study more on your class

  • how can it be better but not in overall? by better your refering to your own opinion.. so dont tell me to study more on my class.. theres no books that say "mages opinions for dummys" so get your head strait

  • u hit a dummy with arcane and i hit a dummy in frost for 10minutes and lets see who does more overall dmg. u probly gonna be like "arcane does way better in 25s" who doesnt. arcanes overall dmg sucks. your dps might be high but we all know overall dmg is whats most important

  • how does that make sence? my dps will be higher but you will have more overall damage? damage per second.. more seconds added, somehow you do more damage? whoever has more overall damage, has more dps, and vis versa

  • and this is why you need to learn how to play

  • because i think.. if u get 2000 dps.. every second for 60 seconds.. someone who gets 1500 dps every second for 60 seconds.. somehow the 1500 will have more overall damage? keep trying bud

  • u still dont understand? god u really need to play your mage more

  • the only reason you keep saying "learn your class" or "go play your mage more" is because you have no idea what your talking about.. explain how something with more dps will lose in overall damage to someone with less dps and il admit your right and im wrong,

    its like saying a car going 80 miles an hour will ultimately not go as far as a 60 mile an hour car if there driving for the same amount of time

  • do this. go to org. place a living bomb on a lvl 70 dummy where it will explode n hit all 4 of them. tell me what dps u see and tell me how much dmg u did. stop being a scrub mage

  • Well, think of it this way

    Arcane does damage at a faster rate (faster cast time and instant casts) than FFB.

    Whereas FFB has slower casts and harder hitting spells, but it does not make up for the cast times of arcane. Therefore the dps of this spec is lower.

    However, FFB has living bomb, so for eg, on Auriaya. Let's say your living bomb goes off right as the guardians spawned. This gives you more damage, but does not justify for the damage the arcane mage has been doing. AOE is the point.

  • The mana conservation is very nice in FFB spec compared to arcane.

  • Yes, this is true.

  • @zanderman143 That's not all. Remember that FFB gets huge crit dmg bonus! Plus, you get to mooch off your lock's CoE and Improved SB. Ideally, you want a Destro lock keeping up CoE and doing his thing, an Aff lock keeping up all his DoTs, especially talented CoA and ISB, and an FFB mage critting almost constantly (which, of course, fuels Pyro). No need to fuck around with Scorch!

    I can't wait to see how badly Cataclysm is gonna screw this up.

  • i did 12k dps with my ttw fireball mage on freya

  • That's fairly average for freya.

  • frost raids

    arc pvp

  • fail.. frost = PvP

    Arcane = PvE (raids)

    not other way around.

  • As soon as I hit 80 i speced arcane, and im doing fine?

  • arcane i say can out-DPS frostfire. im dual specced arcane and frostfire and arcane still does more DPS

  • noo take arcane or fire to level (arcane in my opinion) and frost for PvP when you hit 80

  • frost is the best for leveling because of mana efficiency and survivability

  • Very good video - thanks for the tips

    5 stars =D

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  • whats the best mage specc for dps now? is it arcane?

    and 1 more question; whats the best specc for a mage in 60 pvp right now? thanks if u answer :)

  • frost is good for pvp with the slowing movment so.....

    yea

    but if your a pro frost fire or just fire is good

  • I am impressed

  • whats ur toons name?

  • remember that ignite will also put that 10k up to 14k

  • PFFFFFFFT 10k crit? i crit 20k on dummy's as arc

  • hence i also am arc now

  • You can tell when ppl are noobs when they jump then back up...

  • nice vid, but what the heck makes u think arcane got better seens the patch? arcane didnt get nerf or boost but frostfire got boosted and u think that arcane is better :O Just check the top 10 guilds , ensidia for eg, all mages r 0/51/20 and 20/51/0

  • get on with it

  • LOL thats what i was thinking...

  • i felt like punching the screen...

  • so whats the talent and how do i spec myself?

  • Hey, when is your new movie comming ? :D

  • hehe sorry man been busy with raids and job hunting, tell you what i will be online early tomorro and try get it done it will be on the arcane raiding spec im using right this second in ulduar, doing 4k dps and with this boss over 6k :D

  • Nice video! But yea if you could share with us what addon you used for your unit frames that would be awsome! thannk you

  • adding it to the side bar :D

  • Nice Guide man

  • awsome... my mage was named luukk :P

  • what addons/ unitframes do u use?

  • adding it to the side bar

  • Well fcking done! This helped me lots!

  • since the new patch 3.1 has come out with teir 8 is FFB still the way to go?

  • yes it will be even better, the set bonus for t8 is:

    2Piece Bonus -- Your Arcane Blast, Frostbolt, Frostfire Bolt, and Fireball spells have a chance to grant you 350 spell power for 15 sec.

    so thats chance to get bonus SP from FFB

    4Piece Bonus -- You have a chance for the effect of your Missile Barrage, Hot Streak, or Brain Freeze talent not to be consumed when you cast the spells which benefit.

    means a possiblity of 2 instant fireballs

    i will write this up for how2mage blog link is side

  • From what ive heard and kind of from experience arcane is usually better for raiding when you are not as geared. Once you get the gear FFB is the way you got to go for the dmg imo. I like forst for pvp never really did much with arcane cept for slow and AB spam

  • well ive been arcane for a while now,yeah the dps is good,but some of the crits FFB gets are simply awesome,a fellow mage was showing me up before with FFB,she was getting some mega sweet crits,im going to go FFB asap!

  • wow, what trinket you use ? : )

  • the trinket does + 250 SP when use. theres alot better now so anything like that will do :D

  • GoooJob !@#$%^&* ThX :)

  • QuelZium,

    u can do some awesome damage in large-scale PvP, but in smaller scale pvp, like arenas, FFB spec is NOT good

  • Great vid! Any chance of getting a copy of the spec you are using?

  • This works in PvP? ;P xD

  • in pvp your going to need to do different stuff in stuff like WG when there tanks use the 2x scorge and then dmg it, but on players just spam FFB and fire blast. probs the best way to go try get your hot streak for instant pyro! :D

  • Wow man:O nice dps

  • Omg IM NOT GETTING ABOVE 1k DPS I LOVE UUUU

  • if your not getting over 1k dps your gear is fail or you are sorry.

  • zomfg i meant I am not getting above* fuck soz :P

  • I MEAN I AM ** OMFG AM I RETARDED???/

  • really nice vid m8:D helps me allot, and the link on you info is imba:D thanks helps me allot:D

  • thanks man i migh make alot more tip vids and talk i liked doing this one so could be the start of somthing, remember to Subscribe! :D

  • hehe, yep..:D

  • Great vid mate. I'm a Frost/Fire mage - Belf on Aerie Peak. It's a great spec. I've just started raiding Nax so I'm gonna use this vid as a guide! Thanks!

  • thx for the kind words :D

  • nice vid m8

  • thanks

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