Well... you got the bathroom right. That's something, I guess. I can just LOL at the rest. BTW, it was Hoffman who dragged Matthews away. The director confirmed it on his commentary. Also, idk what you were talking about when you said it can't be Hoffman because he was setting up games at Gideon. Those two things happened MONTHS apart, and there's nothing in the films to even suggest that anyway.
I saw that clip too. It's most likely a dream sequence though. I know they revealed Dr Gordon as being alive, but they didn't say what has happened to him throughout the other films. So they wouldn't show Jill's death if that was the huge twist of the film, since the writers said that there would be a good twist in the end.
Oh, i spelled it wrong i was gonna say if they werent using stock footage. But its probably gonna just be a glimpse or black screen with Jigsaw telling zep the rules in the background and Adam's screams.
So, if theyre using stock footage, does that mean they might bring Leigh Whannell back as Adam? Because i heard the begining of the movie would take place after Saw 1 and we would see what happended to Gordon after he crawled out of the bathroom.
I cant believe it ....so many people went to comic con an watch't the eight minutes of the movie and non of them recorded a thing !...........too bad :(
I didn't get to go there myself, (goddamn it) but according to those who did, the cast and crew for Saw 3D were only stood so many feet away, so they couldn't record the footage.
Besides, it'd be a bit ignorant to record footage from their movie when they're in the same room as you.
piss poor analysis. not to mention that shot off hoffman wearing the pig mask is obviously from the flashback sequence of saw V where they kidnap paul (razor wire guy)
First of all, they said they weren't using archived footage, so it can't be the flashback where Jigsaw and Hoffman capture Paul. Secondly, even if it was, why would they show it again? They already elaborated on it in Saw V so what would be the point in going any further into how Paul wound up in the razor wire? They already explained it to us.
You obviously haven't paid much attention to the Saw films or any of the news on Saw 3D.
The guy in the car: it seems he is screaming out of finding Out her is in a Car, and either Strapped in by some means, Pain also, The symbol of the broken windshield could be a message that HE was in a crash or someone ele and he was the one who caused it to happen OR something broke the windshield as he is still inside.
Even if Hoffmen Build the Trap HE Would/Should make it Escapeable being Amanda was only one who Build traps...so I think atm that were..Unescape.
@LordzBacon No sir..What do you call Hoffman's trap with Seth Baker in Saw V? Remember Hoffman making his game unwinnable? Jigsaw KNEW after the events of Saw V Hoffman's tracks would be found by the FBI.Had Hoffman not killed the 2 officers in Saw VI,he'd would have avoided Jill's confrontation.
I like your analisys. I too think that Detective Mathews seen his captor at some point in those 6 months he disappeared. Jigsaw was over-educated with machinery, but I doubt he would know the human anatomy enough to do some of the traps he's done in past movies. Saw 2, the snitch with the key in the eye (his captor is limping in the video) and in Saw 4, the old couple who were stuck back to back with the metal rods. Only a doctor would know how to do that. The story ends back in the bathroom...
I like your analisys. I too think that Detective Mathews seen his captor at some point in those 6 months he disappeared. Jigsaw was over-educated with machinery, but I doubt he would know the human anatomy enough to do some of the traps he's done in past movies. Saw 2, the snitch with the key in the eye (his captor is limping in the video) and in Saw 4, the old couple who were stuck back to back with the metal rods. Only a doctor would know how to do that. The story ends back in the bathroom...
Mallick was in Saw V as the guy who burned down an "abandoned" building. He survived up to the end of the film with the woman called Brit. Bobby Dagen, however, is new to Saw 3D and we haven't actually seen him before.
But he has supposedly survived a Jigsaw test of his own in the past somewhere in between the films, so it'll be interesting to learn about that. There's also going to be other survivors in the film too, so that'll be cool.
pause directly at :26 where the guy from linkin park is at and you will see his back kinda burning and melting and at :28 with the people hanging im pretty sure that what they r holding on to is spikey and u see their hands bleeding and also below them im pretty sure they r upside down lawnmowers... i say this because u can kinda see the wheels on it....and i thought that those were a bunch of engines in the garage trap
pause directly at :26 where the guy from linkin park is at and you will see his back kinda burning and melting and at :28 with the people hanging im pretty sure that what they r holding on to is spikey and u see their hands bleeding and also below them im pretty sure they r upside down lawnmowers... i say this because u can kinda see the wheels on it
For the trap with the saw in the middle of the two guys, there is a girl who is attached up in the middle of the 2 guys, the girl is cheating on them both, like she goes out with the 2 guys and the guys don't know it, and I wont tell you more
Oh 1 thing that u forgot .....the guy had a legg brace rdy for Eric when he got Eric Captive and remember Gordon foot was messed up aswell so might mean Gordon was helping nthis whole time
You Know I thought that image of Hoffman was at the Factory were Eric Matthews game took place as the wall looks sort of like the K2K sign that Tapp and Sing discovered in SAW lol.
Good observation, but the K2K building was in the first SAW with Tapp and Sing but Eric Matthews' trap was in Saw IV at the Gideon building with Amanda and Lynn Denlon.
other thing, you said that this games aren't planned by jigsaw and you are probably right because he is dead and his work is not ilimited but the john's learning are still in the games because he says "all of my work has leading to this"
for last you say that that light is from thebathroom and you are probably right but the first that came to my mind when i saw it was the autopsy room where john was autopsied.
For example, in Saw VI, how many test subjects were in the abandoned zoo for William's game? Let's see:
William, Hank (the janitor), the secretary, the loner, William's assistant, the carousel six, Tara, her son Brent and Pamela Jenkins, (the reporter).
That's 14 people! Do you think Hoffman could really capture all those people and set up their game all on his own? I highly doubt that, especially when the Pighead limps backwards when he drags William.
i am just a big saw fan and like to discuss everything that it is related to it.
i am really excited for the last movie and for the story's ending.
keep up the good work.
PS. if you dont know this guy go check him out ( @ErickWithNoK ), he does movies previews and reviews and he made some cool stuff about saw, talking about not just the good things but also the bad things about the movie.
hofman's traps aren't unwinnable, the only game that was unwinnable was the one tha he kills his sister's killer, and that isn't really a game because hofman didn't know john yet. on the 5 and 6 movies (after jigsaw death) the games tha he is leading are winnable. you will probably say that those are jigsaw's games because he left instrutions but jigsaw was already dead so hofman could do anything he wanted with the games.
Well, about Saw V. The Glass Coffin, (the trap used to kill Strahm) was first seen in Saw IV, and it was built by John before the events of the first SAW, so he could've set that up a long time ago. So all or some of the other traps may also have been prepared beforehand since John was willing to think that far ahead.
Also, I don't think Hoffman could set all of this up on his own without help. I think Dr Gordon could be helping him and keeping the games winnable since he's a good man.
At 4:20: It doesn't look like they're being "sucked" into a machine IMO. Rather they're having to fight each other while hanging from chains overhead with the loser being the one knocked into the whirling blades below. Very much like a lethal version of one of the games played on the original American Gladiators.
Between this and the "push and pull" saw table seen in the first 8 minutes of the movie I get the feeling a lot, if not all of the traps, have a "Versus" theme.
@ZeronHitaro I agree with you on this but from what your saying sounds vry like what happened in SAW V where the fatal five thought that it was all about survival of the fittest when infact they were supposed to work together so theya ll survived so it could be the same for them to men in hanging whilst the fans are belew them but Jigsaw is twisted and SAW dosen't really repeat games like that.
The man in the picture of the garage trap, beside the reverse bear traps looks like Gordon, with no shirt on, like right after he got out of the bathroom.
This guy looks pretty bald to me. Dr Gordon had short blonde hair, and he also had a T-shirt, instead of a vest like this guy does. I doubt it's Gordon, and besides, what would Gordon have to do with the guy in the car?
@oddworlddude yeah I thought that too, I just can't tell if he's bald or that's his blonde hair and it looks like he has a beater on, maybe he's setting up the trap?
when jigsaw says fear, suggering, death, 3 sall videos are shown, fear is jill, suffering is the second one, he is either scared or in pain, and the last one is death, if the 2 ppl fall they die.
Well, in the plot synopsis they released for Saw VI before it came out, it said that Jigsaw's scheme would finally be understood. So what that could mean is that in Saw VII, someone else runs the games because Jigsaw's scheme is over at the end of Saw VI.
Jill Tuck even tells Hoffman that she's carrying out John's final request, which means Jigsaw's work is over by the end of Saw VI. So someone else builds the traps in Saw VII. That's what I think anyway.
Perhaps Jill could help in some way, but I doubt she's the real new apprentice to Jigsaw. Ever since we met her in Saw IV, Jill's had the finger pointed at her all the time, so it would be too obvious for her to be the new heir to Jigsaw.
Also, at the end of Saw VI, she didn't actually want to give Hoffman a chance, because she takes the key from the Reverse Bear Trap to try and Hoffman's test unwinnable, but he still survived though. So I don't think she would continue John's work.
However, I think Dr Gordon will be the new apprentice somehow, either directly or indirectly. He could either be an apprentice in the way Amanda and Hoffman are, or him helping John could be a part of a game to get his family back, since we haven't been told what happened to Lawrence or his wife and child.
Either way, he has good reason to be helping. And since Jill says she's carrying out John's final request in Saw VI, this tells me that she didn't expect any more test to be done.
Dude you didnt stop it at 5:49, there is actually a picture of Hoffman on the official website with something tht looks very similar to this, it's the Spike Car tht is about to ram Jill. So tht solves the mystery of who put captured her and put her in a trap
I don't think Gordon is an apprentice either but, the scene from saw II with the guy's eye being surgically removed sounds more like a docter's work than Jigsaw, or any of his other apprentices.
I think Jigsaw is making his legacy public, because it has almost always been the FBI and the Police involved with Jigsaw. Or maybe he just want's to do a good old fashioned "This is what happens to people who do bad things."
you are a retard not all of hoffmans traps are unwinnable and dr gordon is not an apprentice but i can almost garuntee that he is just in another game no apprentice that would be to obvious and jill bettr fucking die
Okay, so I'm a retard because I have a different opinion to you about a movie? Please think before you speak. Also, do you have evidence that Gordon isn't an apprentice? Everyone who isn't a Gordonite says Gordon is dead, even though we didn't see his death.
Remember Eric Matthews and Lindsey Perez. We didn't see them die, but everyone thought they were dead, only for them to reappear as alive later. What's to stop them from doing it again?
Then you say you can almost guarantee that Gordon will be in a new game. But you just said that he's dead, so how can you say that he will be in another game if you say he's dead? Not very consistent, are you?
@oddworlddude i didnt say he was dead just if you were not a fucking douchebag you would no that in the first 8 minutes he cauterizes his leg on a hot pipe jigsaw didnt help him dumbass
Alright, maybe you didn't say he was dead and I misinterpreted your comment, but there's no need to call me a retard over a fucking movie for crying out loud. And I know about the first 8 minutes, which is why I discussed it in the description, which you would've realised if you weren't such a hothead.
Also, we've only heard about the first 8 minutes, and Dr Gordon was only in the first minute, so Jigsaw could've helped him upstairs to put him in a game or whatever, so CALM DOWN!
Funny one, because in the first pic it looks as though the Pighead has blonde hair sticking out, but then in the second pic, there's only black hair coming from the mask itself. Besides, the build of the person is too big to be that of the average woman. Seems more like a man to me...
Well... you got the bathroom right. That's something, I guess. I can just LOL at the rest. BTW, it was Hoffman who dragged Matthews away. The director confirmed it on his commentary. Also, idk what you were talking about when you said it can't be Hoffman because he was setting up games at Gideon. Those two things happened MONTHS apart, and there's nothing in the films to even suggest that anyway.
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1986sumeet 1 year ago
I going watch that today :D
8885678 1 year ago
02:13 i thinks its because of the 3D ???????
WWESVRGAMER 1 year ago
DOCTOR GORDAN CONTINUES JIGSAW'S WORK!!!!!
Foomypoo 1 year ago
maybe by "the traps come live" it means it has to do with the audiance. like a interacctive book. dought it though
PussPussProductions 1 year ago
jill dies i saw it
TheBatmanfan1234 1 year ago
@TheBatmanfan1234
I saw that clip too. It's most likely a dream sequence though. I know they revealed Dr Gordon as being alive, but they didn't say what has happened to him throughout the other films. So they wouldn't show Jill's death if that was the huge twist of the film, since the writers said that there would be a good twist in the end.
oddworlddude 1 year ago
@oddworlddude Just watched it and you're both right. Spoilers. She dies in a dream sequence then gets killed off later by Hoffman.
darriustruart 1 year ago
why you need to spoile
@TheBatmanfan1234
beasman2 1 year ago
Oh, i spelled it wrong i was gonna say if they werent using stock footage. But its probably gonna just be a glimpse or black screen with Jigsaw telling zep the rules in the background and Adam's screams.
Great anylasis also!
MrJsharkey 1 year ago
So, if theyre using stock footage, does that mean they might bring Leigh Whannell back as Adam? Because i heard the begining of the movie would take place after Saw 1 and we would see what happended to Gordon after he crawled out of the bathroom.
MrJsharkey 1 year ago
@MrJsharkey
They're not using stock footage. There might be some brief glimpses of the first film's ending, but that's about it. I think that's how it is anyway.
oddworlddude 1 year ago
I cant believe it ....so many people went to comic con an watch't the eight minutes of the movie and non of them recorded a thing !...........too bad :(
stingerhead666 1 year ago
@stingerhead666
I didn't get to go there myself, (goddamn it) but according to those who did, the cast and crew for Saw 3D were only stood so many feet away, so they couldn't record the footage.
Besides, it'd be a bit ignorant to record footage from their movie when they're in the same room as you.
oddworlddude 1 year ago
Also notice the irony in Jill's trap btw oddworlddude,in Saw IV,she lost a son due to ramming action,now it seems shes about to be rammed again,lol.
zeokenX 1 year ago
piss poor analysis. not to mention that shot off hoffman wearing the pig mask is obviously from the flashback sequence of saw V where they kidnap paul (razor wire guy)
perediam 1 year ago
@perediam
First of all, they said they weren't using archived footage, so it can't be the flashback where Jigsaw and Hoffman capture Paul. Secondly, even if it was, why would they show it again? They already elaborated on it in Saw V so what would be the point in going any further into how Paul wound up in the razor wire? They already explained it to us.
You obviously haven't paid much attention to the Saw films or any of the news on Saw 3D.
oddworlddude 1 year ago
The guy in the car: it seems he is screaming out of finding Out her is in a Car, and either Strapped in by some means, Pain also, The symbol of the broken windshield could be a message that HE was in a crash or someone ele and he was the one who caused it to happen OR something broke the windshield as he is still inside.
Even if Hoffmen Build the Trap HE Would/Should make it Escapeable being Amanda was only one who Build traps...so I think atm that were..Unescape.
LordzBacon 1 year ago
@LordzBacon No sir..What do you call Hoffman's trap with Seth Baker in Saw V? Remember Hoffman making his game unwinnable? Jigsaw KNEW after the events of Saw V Hoffman's tracks would be found by the FBI.Had Hoffman not killed the 2 officers in Saw VI,he'd would have avoided Jill's confrontation.
zeokenX 1 year ago
omg this looks cool like the part where evrey ones watching and in moives theres always somone you dont want to die 0:25 is mine =(
combinemetro 1 year ago
the guy in 4:07 kinda looks like Linkin Park
AndyJnice 1 year ago
@AndyJnice
That's because it is the guy from linkin Park. It's Chester Bennington, who is the lead singer of LP.
oddworlddude 1 year ago
@AndyJnice it its chester
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I like your analisys. I too think that Detective Mathews seen his captor at some point in those 6 months he disappeared. Jigsaw was over-educated with machinery, but I doubt he would know the human anatomy enough to do some of the traps he's done in past movies. Saw 2, the snitch with the key in the eye (his captor is limping in the video) and in Saw 4, the old couple who were stuck back to back with the metal rods. Only a doctor would know how to do that. The story ends back in the bathroom...
daxmavado007 1 year ago
I like your analisys. I too think that Detective Mathews seen his captor at some point in those 6 months he disappeared. Jigsaw was over-educated with machinery, but I doubt he would know the human anatomy enough to do some of the traps he's done in past movies. Saw 2, the snitch with the key in the eye (his captor is limping in the video) and in Saw 4, the old couple who were stuck back to back with the metal rods. Only a doctor would know how to do that. The story ends back in the bathroom...
daxmavado007 1 year ago
with the man inside of the car, his back is all bloody... hmmmmmmmmm
Noise789 1 year ago
@halio344
Mallick was in Saw V as the guy who burned down an "abandoned" building. He survived up to the end of the film with the woman called Brit. Bobby Dagen, however, is new to Saw 3D and we haven't actually seen him before.
But he has supposedly survived a Jigsaw test of his own in the past somewhere in between the films, so it'll be interesting to learn about that. There's also going to be other survivors in the film too, so that'll be cool.
oddworlddude 1 year ago
pause directly at :26 where the guy from linkin park is at and you will see his back kinda burning and melting and at :28 with the people hanging im pretty sure that what they r holding on to is spikey and u see their hands bleeding and also below them im pretty sure they r upside down lawnmowers... i say this because u can kinda see the wheels on it....and i thought that those were a bunch of engines in the garage trap
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pause directly at :26 where the guy from linkin park is at and you will see his back kinda burning and melting and at :28 with the people hanging im pretty sure that what they r holding on to is spikey and u see their hands bleeding and also below them im pretty sure they r upside down lawnmowers... i say this because u can kinda see the wheels on it
DRprince919 1 year ago
For the trap with the saw in the middle of the two guys, there is a girl who is attached up in the middle of the 2 guys, the girl is cheating on them both, like she goes out with the 2 guys and the guys don't know it, and I wont tell you more
MetalHeadunit 1 year ago
It was Hoffman in SAW IV.
There's a point where you can kinda see part of his face,
and it was definately his x]
DanzoXIO 1 year ago
if you look on some random saw wikipedia site then it explains the horsepower (car) trap
shyguy510 1 year ago
Hoffman is alive! yay!
TVKyleWood 1 year ago
Oh 1 thing that u forgot .....the guy had a legg brace rdy for Eric when he got Eric Captive and remember Gordon foot was messed up aswell so might mean Gordon was helping nthis whole time
rashaan60 1 year ago
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Gibbo168 1 year ago
You Know I thought that image of Hoffman was at the Factory were Eric Matthews game took place as the wall looks sort of like the K2K sign that Tapp and Sing discovered in SAW lol.
667766667 1 year ago
@667766667
Hmm? I think you might be onto something there...
Good observation, but the K2K building was in the first SAW with Tapp and Sing but Eric Matthews' trap was in Saw IV at the Gideon building with Amanda and Lynn Denlon.
oddworlddude 1 year ago
@oddworlddude I was talking about Eric Matthews first game with Jigsaw that occured in SAW II not SAW IV lol
667766667 1 year ago
I assume the bathroom looks different because of 7 years to camera technology
GAMESHARK2K7 1 year ago
Thanks for your analysis!
MandaVDB 1 year ago
other thing, you said that this games aren't planned by jigsaw and you are probably right because he is dead and his work is not ilimited but the john's learning are still in the games because he says "all of my work has leading to this"
for last you say that that light is from thebathroom and you are probably right but the first that came to my mind when i saw it was the autopsy room where john was autopsied.
this is just my opinion
i really liked you review keep up the good work
MrCBMVP 1 year ago
@MrCBMVP
For example, in Saw VI, how many test subjects were in the abandoned zoo for William's game? Let's see:
William, Hank (the janitor), the secretary, the loner, William's assistant, the carousel six, Tara, her son Brent and Pamela Jenkins, (the reporter).
That's 14 people! Do you think Hoffman could really capture all those people and set up their game all on his own? I highly doubt that, especially when the Pighead limps backwards when he drags William.
oddworlddude 1 year ago
@MrCBMVP
By the way, good ideas and thanks for the feedback. It's good to see what people think of my work.
oddworlddude 1 year ago
@oddworlddude
hey nice to see that you answer your comments.
i am just a big saw fan and like to discuss everything that it is related to it.
i am really excited for the last movie and for the story's ending.
keep up the good work.
PS. if you dont know this guy go check him out ( @ErickWithNoK ), he does movies previews and reviews and he made some cool stuff about saw, talking about not just the good things but also the bad things about the movie.
peace
MrCBMVP 1 year ago
hofman's traps aren't unwinnable, the only game that was unwinnable was the one tha he kills his sister's killer, and that isn't really a game because hofman didn't know john yet. on the 5 and 6 movies (after jigsaw death) the games tha he is leading are winnable. you will probably say that those are jigsaw's games because he left instrutions but jigsaw was already dead so hofman could do anything he wanted with the games.
MrCBMVP 1 year ago
@MrCBMVP
Well, about Saw V. The Glass Coffin, (the trap used to kill Strahm) was first seen in Saw IV, and it was built by John before the events of the first SAW, so he could've set that up a long time ago. So all or some of the other traps may also have been prepared beforehand since John was willing to think that far ahead.
Also, I don't think Hoffman could set all of this up on his own without help. I think Dr Gordon could be helping him and keeping the games winnable since he's a good man.
oddworlddude 1 year ago
At 4:20: It doesn't look like they're being "sucked" into a machine IMO. Rather they're having to fight each other while hanging from chains overhead with the loser being the one knocked into the whirling blades below. Very much like a lethal version of one of the games played on the original American Gladiators.
Between this and the "push and pull" saw table seen in the first 8 minutes of the movie I get the feeling a lot, if not all of the traps, have a "Versus" theme.
ZeronHitaro 1 year ago
@ZeronHitaro I agree with you on this but from what your saying sounds vry like what happened in SAW V where the fatal five thought that it was all about survival of the fittest when infact they were supposed to work together so theya ll survived so it could be the same for them to men in hanging whilst the fans are belew them but Jigsaw is twisted and SAW dosen't really repeat games like that.
667766667 1 year ago
that's hoffman wearing the pig mask. that screen shot is from Saw V.
GentlemanGaGa29 1 year ago
The man in the picture of the garage trap, beside the reverse bear traps looks like Gordon, with no shirt on, like right after he got out of the bathroom.
cyperz11 1 year ago
@cyperz11
This guy looks pretty bald to me. Dr Gordon had short blonde hair, and he also had a T-shirt, instead of a vest like this guy does. I doubt it's Gordon, and besides, what would Gordon have to do with the guy in the car?
oddworlddude 1 year ago
@oddworlddude yeah I thought that too, I just can't tell if he's bald or that's his blonde hair and it looks like he has a beater on, maybe he's setting up the trap?
cyperz11 1 year ago
when jigsaw says fear, suggering, death, 3 sall videos are shown, fear is jill, suffering is the second one, he is either scared or in pain, and the last one is death, if the 2 ppl fall they die.
theflame150 1 year ago
i watched Saw 6, but i cant understand what jigsaws scheme is, what is it ?
TheDc1995 1 year ago
@TheDc1995
Well, in the plot synopsis they released for Saw VI before it came out, it said that Jigsaw's scheme would finally be understood. So what that could mean is that in Saw VII, someone else runs the games because Jigsaw's scheme is over at the end of Saw VI.
Jill Tuck even tells Hoffman that she's carrying out John's final request, which means Jigsaw's work is over by the end of Saw VI. So someone else builds the traps in Saw VII. That's what I think anyway.
oddworlddude 1 year ago
@oddworlddude so, it might be jill who is creating the new traps?
TheDc1995 1 year ago
@TheDc1995
Perhaps Jill could help in some way, but I doubt she's the real new apprentice to Jigsaw. Ever since we met her in Saw IV, Jill's had the finger pointed at her all the time, so it would be too obvious for her to be the new heir to Jigsaw.
Also, at the end of Saw VI, she didn't actually want to give Hoffman a chance, because she takes the key from the Reverse Bear Trap to try and Hoffman's test unwinnable, but he still survived though. So I don't think she would continue John's work.
oddworlddude 1 year ago
@TheDc1995
However, I think Dr Gordon will be the new apprentice somehow, either directly or indirectly. He could either be an apprentice in the way Amanda and Hoffman are, or him helping John could be a part of a game to get his family back, since we haven't been told what happened to Lawrence or his wife and child.
Either way, he has good reason to be helping. And since Jill says she's carrying out John's final request in Saw VI, this tells me that she didn't expect any more test to be done.
oddworlddude 1 year ago
i think the pig mask is from saw V whern hoffman and jigsaw go to catch pail looks like the same jacket
DetectiveHofman 1 year ago
great theories and ideas...hope some of them are real
CMM989 1 year ago
@CMM989
Thanks! I hope some of them are real too, (the bathroom and monitor in particular). :)
oddworlddude 1 year ago
Good Theorys
dhru97 1 year ago
@dhru97
Thank you. :)
oddworlddude 1 year ago
Dude you didnt stop it at 5:49, there is actually a picture of Hoffman on the official website with something tht looks very similar to this, it's the Spike Car tht is about to ram Jill. So tht solves the mystery of who put captured her and put her in a trap
Y2JackHammer 1 year ago
oddworlddude - on the second pic of pigmask blond hairs too - on left side of head and right. Look closure!
Sorry for my bad english.
Pasechnik666 1 year ago
I don't think Gordon is an apprentice either but, the scene from saw II with the guy's eye being surgically removed sounds more like a docter's work than Jigsaw, or any of his other apprentices.
TheReviewersInc 1 year ago
@oddworlddude
I think the trolley will stop in time that is close to Jill. Or think how it has to do some stunts, and when the car get close she lifts her legs
saulovhm 1 year ago
I think that Jill not die. Because John said : "when all this over, i´ll provide a exit for you". So, this means that Jill will not die.
Hand!
saulovhm 1 year ago
@saulovhm
True, very true indeed. Though it is a wonder as to how Jill could possibly escape from that trap.
oddworlddude 1 year ago
I think Jigsaw is making his legacy public, because it has almost always been the FBI and the Police involved with Jigsaw. Or maybe he just want's to do a good old fashioned "This is what happens to people who do bad things."
knottsknocks 1 year ago
Good observations
queen4ever132 1 year ago
you are a retard not all of hoffmans traps are unwinnable and dr gordon is not an apprentice but i can almost garuntee that he is just in another game no apprentice that would be to obvious and jill bettr fucking die
manwithfro241 1 year ago
@manwithfro241
Okay, so I'm a retard because I have a different opinion to you about a movie? Please think before you speak. Also, do you have evidence that Gordon isn't an apprentice? Everyone who isn't a Gordonite says Gordon is dead, even though we didn't see his death.
Remember Eric Matthews and Lindsey Perez. We didn't see them die, but everyone thought they were dead, only for them to reappear as alive later. What's to stop them from doing it again?
oddworlddude 1 year ago
@manwithfro241
Then you say you can almost guarantee that Gordon will be in a new game. But you just said that he's dead, so how can you say that he will be in another game if you say he's dead? Not very consistent, are you?
oddworlddude 1 year ago
@oddworlddude i didnt say he was dead just if you were not a fucking douchebag you would no that in the first 8 minutes he cauterizes his leg on a hot pipe jigsaw didnt help him dumbass
manwithfro241 1 year ago
@manwithfro241
Alright, maybe you didn't say he was dead and I misinterpreted your comment, but there's no need to call me a retard over a fucking movie for crying out loud. And I know about the first 8 minutes, which is why I discussed it in the description, which you would've realised if you weren't such a hothead.
Also, we've only heard about the first 8 minutes, and Dr Gordon was only in the first minute, so Jigsaw could've helped him upstairs to put him in a game or whatever, so CALM DOWN!
oddworlddude 1 year ago
Pigmask is woman - blond hairs. You really dont see??
Pasechnik666 1 year ago
@Pasechnik666
Hmm...
Funny one, because in the first pic it looks as though the Pighead has blonde hair sticking out, but then in the second pic, there's only black hair coming from the mask itself. Besides, the build of the person is too big to be that of the average woman. Seems more like a man to me...
oddworlddude 1 year ago