Amazing things you did there Gadfly. I like this idea to speak out for people who is not allow to speak. I dont get it that why some people are so mad about this??? Because he insists Chinese should have human right? or his belief is not CCP??? How pathetic that Chinese are only 'allowed' to believe in CCP...
We are blessed by all the holy spirits in this beautiful land before you and your false god invaded us for thousands of years, and we would be blessed even after you and your false god being destructed
Wow, amazing! I would never do something like this but I'm glad someone did! This is a message that needs to get out more. I know people who's lives have been maimed under the hand of the CCP. It's a shame they haven't met the promises they made to the IOC. Well China has come a long way as a nation, their human rights record has as a matter of fact, grown increasingly worse. It just sickens me.
Yeah, yeah. We get it. You're part of Eddie's church. Stop trying to pretend that you're an independent voice. You've posted way too many comments the past week to be "independent."
Iraq huh? i don't INNOCENT GOOD AMAZING people who China should be proud of being beaten and killed all because they believe in another faith besides what the government wants them to believe do you?
i never trust anyone, except myself. No government is perfect. but try to manage your own business. by the way, this earth is dirty enough for many plicital things. get a life.
I am strongly urging him to do this on a street in China, I am pretty sure any Chinese understands what he is acting will step up and slap him in the face.
Just another good example of acting evil in god's name
Eddie is sending the money. and do you honestly think he doesnt have the money?!?!? and if he did don't you think the hundreds of attenders of the church wouldn't have the money to pay for it? dude stop making arrogant comments about something you don't even know and BEST of all 3 words GET A LIFE
"would you like it if you were walking down the street holding a bible and you got thrown in prison,almost beatin to death?"
I loled because of this sentence. wake up, and watch the outside world. Something is not what you see and hear in TV. if you dont have money I support you flight tickets.
Stop your dreaming, US heroes. No one needs your salvation.
I am rolling on the floor laughing, what a bunch of idiots.
It is obvious that westerners are so ignorant. You judge China just by western media. Western media is c r a p. I have been living in Beijing for 26 years. There are lots of churchs in Beijing. Government did not forbit people from Christian. You bet go to China and live for a while before you been brain washed by western media and made that such stupid action.
adambrodylvr626 I've lived and worked in China; a close relationship, both personal and professional.
Get a passport, step out of your blinkered comfort zone, and go see the world you presume to patronise. Open your mind and challenge yourself instead of clutching to an empty head and a bible for protection; see whether or not your untested views and beliefs can actually whether reality. You're in for a treat.
Christians and Americans are some of the most unenlightened in this world.
GJ Uncle ! The world appreciates your dedication and your honor. You are an awesome individual... and you have a lot of ba--s for doing this ... god Speed Man ! We here in the SGV love you ! the gadfly lives!
You damaged the belongings of the hotel, you gave a bad example to juniors, you gave a terrible example to people that making them believe they could do anything bad in order to fulfill their purposes, you hurts Chinese people's feeling because of your damaging effect for Olympics in Beijing and you are a criminal now!
You know what. Why donot you just stay home and worry about your sister and brother?
I was trying to be one of christians before but I decide to quit because of your stupid action. I would like to stand out for voiceless people but not the way you did. I would never hurt others' feeling for doing right things.
Wake up world to a people who have no voice. I am not ashamed to be a follower of Christ and he loves all people for we are created in His image. Those of you that have left comments go visit another country and your rights will be stripped away. Get beyond yourselves and get a new perspective on life in the real World.
You go Gadfly, tell it like it is! I support you 100%. Though your method might be controversial, the message needed to be said. It's so easy for people to tear you down from their safe little homes away from any real danger or persecution. If they knew of the atrocities, they might see it differently. Thanks for letting us know that you will surrender and pay for the damage. What you did was very brave and atypical of Christians to do as well. You're standing up for all religions! Amazing.
Its amazing to read all these nasty comments coming from Chinese people. You judge a man for an act to raise awarness for your own people. A man who truly has love and compassion for the Chinese people who are in persecution. Weather one believes in God or not, we all have a heart and should understand the cause These people should not have to be in persecution for having a belief. You don't have to support the man but support the people who don't have a voice and only want feedom like you
That's total bullcrap. He doesn't love the Chinese people. He's an ethnocentric idiot who has a moral superiority complex. Don't you realize that he's now just made the lives of the Chinese Christians that much harder?? It's completely self-defeating.
I don't think the chinese government would need a pedophilic american pastor to meddle in their internal affairs.Go back to doing wat u do best plz and rape some kids
US is rich in idiots. even some priests. In the name of God, they do stupid things to show how ignorant they are.
Eddie Romero, you are really a piece of shit. Good will? how much do you know about China? If you tell me you have got alot of knowlege about China from western media, I will have to tell you you are badly brainwashed.
u r completely nuts&out of mind.what do u know about&what did u c in China?If ur not blind,u must be brain-washed by the western medium.never think ur the last justicial being in the world & there's no justice in China.u r very wrong.u should pay more attention to what ur country&government have done to civilians in Afghanistan&Iraq and how the civilians have been slaughtered by ur country&government.Don't fool urself & the world again or ur nightmare would have just begun.BTW,will u really pay?
What people like this guy essentially are coming up against when facing China is in fact the result of democracy. If given the democratic decision to change the way China handles religious freedom, it's likely that the policy will become even more harsh.
I am Chinese. I can understand that there are so many people say that he did that with GOOD will, but I should still say that he was doing CRAP ... what a stupid ...
People both from the west and east should get to know each other first before they try to "EDUCATE" the other.
It is sad how so many of you don't understand the purpose of his actions. But everyone is entitled to there own opinion.
The whole purpose is to raise awareness of what is really happening to people of all faiths in China. NOT for Gadfly to write on walls for is own well being. He is raising his voice for those who can't!!!!!
RAISE YOUR VOICE!!! Why is it that so many rock bands over the years have vandalized rooms for their own glorification, but when someone does it for a good cause to raise awareness for oppressed peoples everyone can't get over the "damage" and get the point of the whole "event?"
Because rock bands tend to be run by immature idiots. And they tend to do it in their home country so they are only representing themselves.
Eddie's an experienced pator and is expected to know better than some juvi rocker. Since he's acting on foreign soil, he's representing the people in America as well as those in the Christian faith.
He has agreed to pay for the damages, but I'll bet if he could get the sheet rock out of there he could sell it for a lot of money. Everybody in America knows that this is a peaceful protest. What would you suggest he do that would be more beneficial to his cause? What? With his view on Part 1 & 2 being around 20,000 just on YouTube alone and turning himself over to the Chinese authorities, I would say he has made his statement loud and clear us all.
The intentions behind this are good. But the way you are going about this is all wrong. I will not support vandalism for any cause. You really think people are going to respond well to this kind of behavior. I was on your bandwagon in the beginning but i refuse to support someone who represents us in this way.You're making these matters worse, not better.utter delinquency deserves no respect
I just had 2 Chinese students staying with me for 3 weeks for a Cultural Immersion Project through our church and I can assure you that educating them about our country and it's freedoms and one on one with the Chinese people is the way to go, not putting graffiti on the walls of private hotel rooms. This does not plant seeds of Christian faith or freedom. It makes American/Christians look like we are defacing their country.
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It's easy to post and speak our minds in good 'ol USofA (especially in a Youtube forum) ... However, any lazy or biased foolish American can have opinions and speak as though their discernment is second to none; But taking action towards those opinions based on a righteous cause and making a living statement is something else entirely ...
This opinionated observer has one thing to say then ...
While there is an official state church, most of the growth (and the perceived potential threat to the government) takes place in the underground churches. Today, the government seems bent on doing more to smash the growing home church movement. As Christians, we have for the most part been accepting in praying about what is taking place in China yet a current policy of silence still takes place within our actions. The Olympics gave us the opportunity to break the silence and speak out...
For decades, China has been rounding up Christians and other dissidents. They have been beaten and thrown in jail. Some have been killed. Those who escape this persecution must live in a society where political and religious opinion is repressed, where journalists are jailed, and where the Internet and overseas broadcasts are censored.
The Chinese constitution promises its citizens that they have freedom of religious belief. But we, as informed US citizens, know better...
Just ratify the ICCPR and release Pastor Zhang Rongliang, Xu Fa, Hu Jia, Shi Toa and Guo Feixiong. Prove to the world you really are a new China! Show the world it is possible to fairly and justly govern over a billion people! Then you will have great influence on many nations! And many nations will have great respect for you!
How about the innocent Chinese hotel employees who may be punished for this absurd stunt geared only to YouTube viewers outside of that nation? Do they have no value to you because they may not be of your so called faith? Who will compensate them if they lose their jobs or are taken away for re-education just for seeing this vandalism? Will your desired results justify what happens to those people? Did anyone consider this possibility or do they not exist to you because they aren't Christian?
All I can see is immature, there should b better ways to do it, or ppl wont support him. he said "all dmg will be paid for", it's like crash someone's balls and say "dont worry, i'll pay for the surgery'.. he can do these things at tiananmen square if he wants to be a hero. .
Lets be realistic do you honestly feel people would be interested or still be talking about it if they heard of a man protesting in the town square. Where are the people now or the stories of the protesters that did protest in the town square. Lets face it we live in a world that drastic measures get the attention. Like I stated before how can one feel a wall is more valuable then a human being. His actions were about raising awareness for the persecuted Now that we know what actions will we do
So are you by God. For saying that about a man of God. (From Heaven ). Just to let you know which one im talking about. Oh and pastor Eddie is reading this so you should say you are sorry. The lord commands it.
china is around the same size as america, but with 1.3 billion+ ppl, it's hard to give everyone what they want in a country with these much ppl. There will be sacrifice if china want to be better. It's just my own opinion.
i have the same opinion! China, it's a large country with large population. Just communism can control it. A lot of chinese people don't have education and the gouvernment try to help them, exemple build school, try to give education for every child... I think only the communism can do that.
And a lot of chinese people can't understand democracy system because they must be educated beforce for that. We must impose. Chinese people were endured with wars. Now China is peace, so no one doesn't trouble this peace, if someone try to do some pressure for China like this fuckin shit Dai lama, he must be killed! There will be sacrifice if china want to be better.
There's a lot of anti-China propaganda in America. The Americans need to stop drinking that Kool-aid. However, it seems like you've drunk the Anti-Dali Lama Kool-aid as well. There's also a ton of propaganda in China as well. No gov't or belief system has the answer to everything.
However, I agree that China needs more time. 20-30 years should do it. A blink of an eye, even China's 5,000 year history.
Then why id you move to belgium and not stay in China and get educated there? For someone who doesn't know english well you sure can curse like a sailor! : )
Stop vandalizing Chinese hotels. Chinese people like china the way it is. If Bush cant change anything, what makes you think your graffiti is going to do ANYTHING? IF you want to better the world, go donate food to the homeless, cuz you are absolutely helping nobody.
You are no better than the common L.A. tagger! You go to China to paint your cause on motel room walls, and this is going to help anyone HOW?? I hope you get punished to the fullest extent of the law in China. You do not go into another country and break their laws!
The bible says we are to obey the law of the land. You are not in the US now! You are in China!! Again, this helps your cause HOW?? By showing the world what an idiot you are?
LA taggers tag to get known and for turf. Gadfly did an extreme thing to get attention for the persecution and raise awareness. Same act maybe but driven by different motives. separate the two and maybe you will understand.
Sorry jshep7...I still don't buy it. The man deliberately vandalized property. I have fits about morons who have no respect for others property...and he has none, obviously! If he wanted to get his message across then he should have handed out bibles..discreatly placed them around town, not destroy property. That would have been a more effective way and much less destructive means of doing it. This way he makes all of us Christians look like looney bins!!! He is giving all of us a bad name!!
Once again stop focusing on the act and hear the message! mark 2...the friends of a paralytic cut a whole in a roof to get their friends in to see Jesus to be healed....Jesus never commented on the vandalism..he healed the man...Gadfly is no Jesus....just someone who "cut a whole in a roof" But he will pay for it!
I think that your tone is all wrong! People like you want to continue to pontificate from the bubble you live in and when someone like gadfly does something like paint some walls in a hotel you criticize him for it. Do something worthwhile raise your voice for those who have no voice. Please no name calling we're all on the same team right?
So you are saying the ends justifies the means? No matter what he destroys in the process?
So if this is the case, you would have no problem with someone who was Muslim, or say a devil worshiper going into a motel room or wherever and painting their message all over the walls? After all they believe in thier cause also.
Nope not saying that ... Don't just assume I accept your conclusions so freely and literally. Reread and try again.
My attention was drawn toward the message not so much the method...the Chinese Government has the right and will undoubtly pass judgment on the method, yet praying that somehow the right and fair consequence will be passed down from the Lord...
(A muslim & devil worshiper would have a whole different set of ethics involved ...)
Let's look a little deeper...his last words before departure:
"The point isn't to be destructive...we're not trying to break things. But how do we say it, without having to be belligerent, without being nasty? [We want] to make a point, make a stand, so that they [the CCP] have to hear, and hopefully understand. And if this giant wheel of justice moves forward by just one click...that's OK, that's OK. This appears to be a contradiction. [But it is] making a statement in a dramatic way..."
The video continues, and shows him paint a key Bible text on the wall, "Who is my neighbour?" [Lk 10:29]. As he does so, he makes an appeal to the viewers to understand the victims of the Chinese authoritarianism have faces, and asks the viewers to open their hearts to the pain of the prisoners, and finally he asks the viewers to "do their part".
Can we do our part for their sake. You can dismiss this whole event if you'd like for sure but if you've any heart for these people, please, act now.
You Fundamentalist Zealot Ass! Don't you realize that your vandalism shall result in the harshest of penalties for the innocent hotel employees. You sir, are a coward. You should have stood publicly in front of cameras with your protest let yourself be arrested. Instead you choose to skulk around like some self-proclaimed stealth whack job and embarrass our nation. Save some face for yourself now while you still can, man-up, and turn yourself in.
"An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law."
-Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Gadfly has planned to do exactly this. GET OVER THE PROPERTY DAMAGE AND RAISE YOUR VOICES ALREADY. Chinese people need your support and the window of time is closing.
I know Pastor Ed,He is truly a humble man and believes in what he is doing. he has prayers and our full support. Mission accomplished, the whole world is talking about the Chinese Christians who are being locked up just for their faith by this communist Country.
Wait, wait...you wrote your slogans in ENGLISH? And you wanted the CHINESE to get the message?
It's stupid enough to do this inside a hotel room where no one but the janitor will read your messages, but to do it in your own (their foreign)language and expect to be seen as some kind of hero? Expect your messages and your ass to be embraced?
You have made those who have seen your act of vandalism...I mean ARTISTIC mural painting...more defensive of their country. GOOD JOB.
I am Grace V. Ok Lets do the math.A very well known Pator with many members and well know and loved by many. Goes to China and spends his hard earn money cause he is also a proffesor and has many students, Is doing this for attention hello, now what do still think he is doing this for attention or to reapeat after me save lifes.
Nice, very little risk involved. If you hadnt taped it to show they would have covered it up. Way to show the world your heroic protest... from within locked hotel rooms.
You are an idiot. We cannot even close our own borders or provide health care to our people. Worry about our problems first. I hope they lock your ass up.
And good luck trying to leave. You had to show your passport upon checking into those hotels. Sadly, you deserve whatever punishment they decide to dish out.
I'm an American living in China. I've never wasted my time to comment on a Youtube video, but your video deserves a response. If you think that destroying private property will benefit your cause, you are wrong. You have no right to deface hotel rooms! Why should those companies pay for your juvenile stunt? Man, you are just the type of religious fanatical weirdo the Chinese gov't is trying to protect its people from. Good job playing right into their hands, you bizarre asshole!
I agree with KinkyKing, this is NOT the right way to get your message across. I agree with the fact that the plight of peoples in China needs to be brought to light, this just isn't the way to do it. Are you going to video tape your arrest/"turning in" and get THAT posted here too?
Then how would you do it? Stand in front of a camera be arrested and then deported 1 hour later case closed and back to your life, or put it on the line and turn yourself in and accept whatever punishment?
If he doesn't get arrested on camera, I wouldn't be surprised if he just disappears completely and forever. That's why he needs to turn himself in on camera now.
one thing, there are christian churches in china. i know someone but he asked me not to ask him too many questions, but they are all underground, i understand what he is trying to do, but there are christian churches, again just underground.
If everyone would take the time to do some research on this as I have they would find that this is what its all about.They don't have the freedom so they have to go underground and aren't free to talk about it.There are people in persecution that have been caught. After watching the press conference one would have to believe that he did consult with others because Bob Fu of China Aid who was persecuted himself for his belief was there speaking on his behalf imgadfly must have some insight
pdogx11, I agree with you. Through all of this I have been educated about the persecuted in China. I know iamgadfly will have to be held accountable for his actions but weather we agree or disagree on what he did, we have to be honest with ourselfs that he did partly accomplish what he was out to do and that is to raise the awareness. This has everyone across the world talking about it. Now if the China government does ratify and release then lets not judge but be thankful and PRAISE GOD!
The US, as a result of our current administration, has enough of its own problems. Come back and protest here concerning recent torture disclosures, violations of the Geneva Convention and the suspension of due process. Based on the videos, he appears to be a self-absorbed, attention-starved hypocrite and a vandal. It's embarrasing the way some Americans are acting while guests in China for the Olympic Games. Also, enough with the "Blair Witch" lighting and sound effects! Overall, a poor video.
Mooseseeker, again, many of us are with you on this, seeking to reform Chinese policy peacefully, engaging the people-- but vandalism like this only damages the cause. I was recently in touch with a friend currently in China, there with his church, combating injustice-- and the Romero affair is already damaging their efforts, since authorities are now suspicious of Americans there in general, esp. Christian groups. Pastor Romero's actions are at best poorly-considered, at worst selfish.
I refer you to the bible passage where four brothers wanted to save their sick friend. Jesus was in a house and it was too crowded to get to him. They decided to get on the roof and dig a hole through the roof and let their friend down. Because of their faith Jesus commended them and healed their friend. Breaking through the roof is property damage but yet Jesus commended them.
In reading what iamgadfly's project is all about it is about raising awareness. We can't now say we did not know or weren't aware of it. We now know so we have the right and freedom for what I understand this is what it is all about so we can either sit back judge and do nothing or write letters in good faith to the different agencies. Lets be real if imgadfly did not do what he did would we all be talking about it. Would we be interested if he raised a sign or sat on the street or starved?
Inthelight, the little "graffiti" tossed on the walls in that hotel caused real damage that ordinary Chinese in that private hotel-- not the government-- have to deal with. The first step in successfully protesting is to show love and respect for the common people, and encourage them to bring about change from within, peacefully. This process is in fact occurring in that country, with many of us engaged in the effort. Vandalism such as this, only sets back all our efforts.
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Hey! MENTO! can you spell? are U in the wrong state of mind? THIS man is not working for himself. He is working for God Almighty. It doesn't matter what the penalties are. I admire him for that. STRANGE LAND, STRANGE ENVIRONMENT.WHAT would U do? Do U have The GUTS to stand for the cause?
Alert, many people (including some in prior Christian volunteering groups I have associated wtih), have claimed to be working for God Almighty, then committed acts of embezzlement or even violence, trying to rationalize it away. One does God's work by showing it one's actions, not one's claims, and I'm sorry, but vandalizing a hotel with innocent people (no government connection) goes against this. The first element in any successful protest is respect for the common people, not shown here.
It's funny...this man comes from Usa...and goes to Cina for human rights!!! Do you remember death penalty, torture, abductions, wars, golpes etc etc made by your own government?
Very true, but we don't get thrown in jail for distributing Bibles. This is a cry for religious freedom, freedom of choice, freedom to believe in what you want to believe, freedom to comment the way you want for example. Many people in China do not have this freedom. Is the USA perfect, the answer is no. All we are asking is the Chinese government ratify the human rights agreement they have already signed.
I love all the back and forth of this, this is what God wants, he wants us talking about this. He wants our focus on China. The more positive and negative comments on this the more this becomes news. So thank you to all who have commented. Please continue so the CCP has to arrest him. This is what he planned from the beginning. The CCP has always been about saving face to the World.
Extreme injustice calls for extreme measures. lbmofo needs to read a bit of history. Start with the Boston Tea Party. Our cowardly sensibilities in the west have made us "very nice" and manageable. This is not over. Stay tuned for a couple weeks. And pray that the Chinese govt will be shamed and prayed into change. The world is watching now. Even lbmofo.
That guy will be caught for sure as when you ask your tourist visa, you must show all reservations that you did in Chinese hotels. So they can trace him. Also, with that video on youtube, i guess that now they really know his face. i don't think that things will happen really well for him at the airport when he'll return home. Another thing, i'd call this "a useless voice for voiceless" cause tell me in what it helps these people ? Just the symbol ? you'd better be involved in something useful !
Why anyone want to chase him? None authority cares about he. He just common criminal. He just make everyone voiceless. He put -2 on my response. He no threatening of CCP. They think he comedy mand,.
Iamgadfly, I pray that your message will be received and action will take place. That people will have an understanding of what your message is truely about. Love and Compassion for the persecuted.
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Gadfly, you truly are a brave man and I hope people can see past the "graffiti" you did and can help you to strike the heart of the Chinese authorities for the sake of their people and for the freedom of all people. We Americans sometimes are too content in our little perfect world. The plight of the Chinese people is tremendous and you're right, it wasn't as big as it could have been. I support you. Ignore all of the stupid comments being posted. May they one day have the freedom that we have!
Paid for or not, it is wrong to damage others' property. It would equate to a foreigner coming to US to trash a bunch of hotels because they are protesting the mis-treatment of political prisoners in Guantanamo!
Thanks for appealing to release Chinese dissidents and caring about human rights in China. You are so kind~ but you know, our gov won't give a thought about ICCPR.
Actually, with international eyes upon them, the Chinese government has been known to release dissidents. Are the dissidents free from watching eyes and further persecution? No but regardless -take heart!
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Sir, could you please tell me what you are proud of your own chinese? Slave, unfreedom of faith, unfreedom of speech, or anything else? If the international Christian organizations don't help us in china history, your mam, sisters were bound their feet. do you know that? don't foolish yourself.
This Sir, I don't know you from that some matters which understand concerning China.But I can tell you, China in nowadays is no longer like your China in the image, she is a nation which continuously develops innovation to pursue science and technology civilization now and very obviously state the Ao success is an example, I think that the IOC always will not hand over to a nation of distrust of Olympic games.
Hey Mr.Romero-Luv ur East L.A taggin' skills! ur so cool!It's Paula and I'm here at Berkeley presenting research on Moderate Islam, popular technology and youth in the U.K!!! Good Luck!
Undoubtedly there are those who will criticize this action. They would have criticized Jesus' action in the temple as well. I know the gadfly's heart. It is "For the King Jesus - And for His Kingdom - Until the King Returns." May the brutal bully of communist china be shamed to Let God's People Go. Grace & Peace to you, Gadfly. GIG
Wow!!!, that`s a really bad example of what a Christian is meant to be. It´s really, really dissapointing.
To see this kind of "ministery" really makes me mad!!!! Your goals and your means are ABSOLUTELY contradictory!!!!!!!!!
IXOYEbeliever 1 year ago
P.S. shouldn't that have been written in Chinese so more of the authorities could understand what the act was all about?
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ppiuaaaad 3 years ago
oh, btw, thanks for what you did there Gadfly, that is great courage showing right in front of the evilest govenment :)
cheriehp 3 years ago
Amazing things you did there Gadfly. I like this idea to speak out for people who is not allow to speak. I dont get it that why some people are so mad about this??? Because he insists Chinese should have human right? or his belief is not CCP??? How pathetic that Chinese are only 'allowed' to believe in CCP...
cheriehp 3 years ago
OPEN US TO GOD?
TO YOUR FALSE GOD?
We are blessed by all the holy spirits in this beautiful land before you and your false god invaded us for thousands of years, and we would be blessed even after you and your false god being destructed
AD19840304 3 years ago
Wow you are a very confused and ignorant person enough said..
VoiceforVoic3less 3 years ago
i'v no idea people hate China, Chinese or Communist Party
fancybingbing 3 years ago
Wow, amazing! I would never do something like this but I'm glad someone did! This is a message that needs to get out more. I know people who's lives have been maimed under the hand of the CCP. It's a shame they haven't met the promises they made to the IOC. Well China has come a long way as a nation, their human rights record has as a matter of fact, grown increasingly worse. It just sickens me.
inthelight20 3 years ago
Yeah, yeah. We get it. You're part of Eddie's church. Stop trying to pretend that you're an independent voice. You've posted way too many comments the past week to be "independent."
mangonut 3 years ago
you are christian?
oh my god, thank god I didn't listen to my UK friend to join the Church, to become a stupid asshole like you
beneathman 3 years ago 5
Learn: ChinaAid(dot)org
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ChristopherRayOlague 3 years ago
stupid asshole
tamahomelove 3 years ago 6
try find the translations for my word if you are not chinese:五十步笑百步 next time lets see us doing some painting job in us for iraq.
people get a life!
sonicbaby 3 years ago
Iraq huh? i don't INNOCENT GOOD AMAZING people who China should be proud of being beaten and killed all because they believe in another faith besides what the government wants them to believe do you?
VoiceforVoic3less 3 years ago
i never trust anyone, except myself. No government is perfect. but try to manage your own business. by the way, this earth is dirty enough for many plicital things. get a life.
sonicbaby 3 years ago
I am strongly urging him to do this on a street in China, I am pretty sure any Chinese understands what he is acting will step up and slap him in the face.
Just another good example of acting evil in god's name
whiteleylondon 3 years ago 3
Umm dude he did do this in the street and god protected him. any more arrogant ignorant comments you wanna make?
VoiceforVoic3less 3 years ago
So God protects indoor vandalism?
lol
In your flawed logic, if I blow you retarded brain off in a room other than on a street, than I can get away with it?
You sir, are truly ignorant and arrogant as any religious fundamentalist.
whiteleylondon 3 years ago
a american jerk, a mad dog
waterloosrain 3 years ago 2
christian??? ohh American christian. loser!
chinaupup 3 years ago 2
囧囧囧囧
thank u for making me laugh so hard.
but i heard these hotels r looking for u
i hope u will bring enough money next time
when u wanna go to china &do some painting job
HiMEAnn 3 years ago
Eddie is sending the money. and do you honestly think he doesnt have the money?!?!? and if he did don't you think the hundreds of attenders of the church wouldn't have the money to pay for it? dude stop making arrogant comments about something you don't even know and BEST of all 3 words GET A LIFE
VoiceforVoic3less 3 years ago
"would you like it if you were walking down the street holding a bible and you got thrown in prison,almost beatin to death?"
I loled because of this sentence. wake up, and watch the outside world. Something is not what you see and hear in TV. if you dont have money I support you flight tickets.
Stop your dreaming, US heroes. No one needs your salvation.
I am rolling on the floor laughing, what a bunch of idiots.
LooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooL
ssy888 3 years ago 2
haha yaa you makee mee lol toooo
urr wackk??you havee noo clueee whyy hes doing this?you think im supporting him because i saw him on t.v??
emm nooooo.
i actually have a life and i no what thoes people are going threw unlike you they actually wanna open up to god.
keep talking and watch ware you end up in life.
its not a thret its a promise. :]]im onlyy 13 and i bet you my life that pastor eddie is going to prove himself right
i actually go to hacienda christian fellow ship and
adambrodylvr626 3 years ago
what a christian....such a SOB...shame on him
bigsun1985 3 years ago 5
what a loser...christians are so fake!!! this is stupid,shame on him...loser
zaku2ass 3 years ago 5
what i only saw from him is how an American acts.
endlessRR 3 years ago 5
stupid
vincentt1984 3 years ago 4
he should shoot some homemade porn movies instead of f*cking himself in the room
hahaha
alexDomain 3 years ago 3
well done, god will be relly relly relly proud of you you stupid ass... what does any of these has anything to do with the hotel owner?
zhoudifei 3 years ago 4
It is obvious that westerners are so ignorant. You judge China just by western media. Western media is c r a p. I have been living in Beijing for 26 years. There are lots of churchs in Beijing. Government did not forbit people from Christian. You bet go to China and live for a while before you been brain washed by western media and made that such stupid action.
hikeven 3 years ago 6
haha,do u know that is a french hotel? idiot
scottleoliang 3 years ago 5
What a freak!
SARSPEP 3 years ago 2
His actions (vandalism, criminality) speak so loud I can't hear a word he's saying (Christianity).
He came to spread the word when all he did was smear shit.
I gather Chinese are now fully entitled to do the same in an effort to free Americans from the arrogance of their imperial ignorance?
Didn't think so.
x8z3 3 years ago
you have no idea what hes doing and why hes doing it.
he may not have done what he did in the best way but atleast he cares for the people in china.
((vandalism??))yes its wrong but when the gadfly project is done with youll understand that is was the only way to get his point across.
like he said"thats what happens when no one speaks up."
would you like it if you were walking down the street holding a bible and you got thrown in prison,almost beatin to death?
didn'y think so.
adambrodylvr626 3 years ago
adambrodylvr626 I've lived and worked in China; a close relationship, both personal and professional.
Get a passport, step out of your blinkered comfort zone, and go see the world you presume to patronise. Open your mind and challenge yourself instead of clutching to an empty head and a bible for protection; see whether or not your untested views and beliefs can actually whether reality. You're in for a treat.
Christians and Americans are some of the most unenlightened in this world.
x8z3 3 years ago 4
well done Adam - a young voice of reason. Grace and Peace on you
WilliamFrancisWelsh 3 years ago
stupid asshole!!!!!!!!!!!!
foolisharp 3 years ago 3
GJ Uncle ! The world appreciates your dedication and your honor. You are an awesome individual... and you have a lot of ba--s for doing this ... god Speed Man ! We here in the SGV love you ! the gadfly lives!
ob1kan0b 3 years ago
Eddie_Romero is good!chinese Support you!
enetdawei 3 years ago
You damaged the belongings of the hotel, you gave a bad example to juniors, you gave a terrible example to people that making them believe they could do anything bad in order to fulfill their purposes, you hurts Chinese people's feeling because of your damaging effect for Olympics in Beijing and you are a criminal now!
You know what. Why donot you just stay home and worry about your sister and brother?
dutmcse 3 years ago 3
I was trying to be one of christians before but I decide to quit because of your stupid action. I would like to stand out for voiceless people but not the way you did. I would never hurt others' feeling for doing right things.
dutmcse 3 years ago
Wake up world to a people who have no voice. I am not ashamed to be a follower of Christ and he loves all people for we are created in His image. Those of you that have left comments go visit another country and your rights will be stripped away. Get beyond yourselves and get a new perspective on life in the real World.
midget730 3 years ago
You go Gadfly, tell it like it is! I support you 100%. Though your method might be controversial, the message needed to be said. It's so easy for people to tear you down from their safe little homes away from any real danger or persecution. If they knew of the atrocities, they might see it differently. Thanks for letting us know that you will surrender and pay for the damage. What you did was very brave and atypical of Christians to do as well. You're standing up for all religions! Amazing.
inthelight20 3 years ago
OMG,there are so many idiots in USA...lol.WHAT A STUPID
bunnyhoney 3 years ago 4
he's creepy
flyerio 3 years ago 4
you should be shamed of being a Cristian!!
how dare you even pray for this fucking criminal. shut up!!
dutmcse 3 years ago 6
what a clown!! Your lord must be real proud of you!!
This is creepy wideo! do you know this is criminal? Why are you guys doing this! you looks like a terrorist.
Nobody will be supporting such a criminal no matter what he is doing for.
dutmcse 3 years ago 3
Its amazing to read all these nasty comments coming from Chinese people. You judge a man for an act to raise awarness for your own people. A man who truly has love and compassion for the Chinese people who are in persecution. Weather one believes in God or not, we all have a heart and should understand the cause These people should not have to be in persecution for having a belief. You don't have to support the man but support the people who don't have a voice and only want feedom like you
ns4jc 3 years ago
That's total bullcrap. He doesn't love the Chinese people. He's an ethnocentric idiot who has a moral superiority complex. Don't you realize that he's now just made the lives of the Chinese Christians that much harder?? It's completely self-defeating.
mangonut 3 years ago 2
dutmcse!!
i support him :]
adambrodylvr626 3 years ago
I don't think the chinese government would need a pedophilic american pastor to meddle in their internal affairs.Go back to doing wat u do best plz and rape some kids
ElDrinna 3 years ago 3
Yes you mean Priest.
texashemisfair 3 years ago
He is surely better than priest who fuck children, maybe he did! Not sure! But he is sure for being an idiot!!
hornplayer84 3 years ago 3
US is rich in idiots. even some priests. In the name of God, they do stupid things to show how ignorant they are.
Eddie Romero, you are really a piece of shit. Good will? how much do you know about China? If you tell me you have got alot of knowlege about China from western media, I will have to tell you you are badly brainwashed.
Idiot, the best word for you.
wolfpapas 3 years ago 2
u r completely nuts&out of mind.what do u know about&what did u c in China?If ur not blind,u must be brain-washed by the western medium.never think ur the last justicial being in the world & there's no justice in China.u r very wrong.u should pay more attention to what ur country&government have done to civilians in Afghanistan&Iraq and how the civilians have been slaughtered by ur country&government.Don't fool urself & the world again or ur nightmare would have just begun.BTW,will u really pay?
yinminuser 3 years ago
What people like this guy essentially are coming up against when facing China is in fact the result of democracy. If given the democratic decision to change the way China handles religious freedom, it's likely that the policy will become even more harsh.
zhangensprachen 3 years ago
I am Chinese. I can understand that there are so many people say that he did that with GOOD will, but I should still say that he was doing CRAP ... what a stupid ...
People both from the west and east should get to know each other first before they try to "EDUCATE" the other.
seaest 3 years ago 2
idiot
j6zhao 3 years ago 4
It is sad how so many of you don't understand the purpose of his actions. But everyone is entitled to there own opinion.
The whole purpose is to raise awareness of what is really happening to people of all faiths in China. NOT for Gadfly to write on walls for is own well being. He is raising his voice for those who can't!!!!!
MmzLenz 3 years ago
RAISE YOUR VOICE!!! Why is it that so many rock bands over the years have vandalized rooms for their own glorification, but when someone does it for a good cause to raise awareness for oppressed peoples everyone can't get over the "damage" and get the point of the whole "event?"
jshep7 3 years ago
Because rock bands tend to be run by immature idiots. And they tend to do it in their home country so they are only representing themselves.
Eddie's an experienced pator and is expected to know better than some juvi rocker. Since he's acting on foreign soil, he's representing the people in America as well as those in the Christian faith.
mangonut 3 years ago
One man's art.....
Freedom is not free!
He has agreed to pay for the damages, but I'll bet if he could get the sheet rock out of there he could sell it for a lot of money. Everybody in America knows that this is a peaceful protest. What would you suggest he do that would be more beneficial to his cause? What? With his view on Part 1 & 2 being around 20,000 just on YouTube alone and turning himself over to the Chinese authorities, I would say he has made his statement loud and clear us all.
Honker66 3 years ago
The intentions behind this are good. But the way you are going about this is all wrong. I will not support vandalism for any cause. You really think people are going to respond well to this kind of behavior. I was on your bandwagon in the beginning but i refuse to support someone who represents us in this way.You're making these matters worse, not better.utter delinquency deserves no respect
lakerfan89 3 years ago 3
I just had 2 Chinese students staying with me for 3 weeks for a Cultural Immersion Project through our church and I can assure you that educating them about our country and it's freedoms and one on one with the Chinese people is the way to go, not putting graffiti on the walls of private hotel rooms. This does not plant seeds of Christian faith or freedom. It makes American/Christians look like we are defacing their country.
Leilanie1235 3 years ago 4
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It's easy to post and speak our minds in good 'ol USofA (especially in a Youtube forum) ... However, any lazy or biased foolish American can have opinions and speak as though their discernment is second to none; But taking action towards those opinions based on a righteous cause and making a living statement is something else entirely ...
This opinionated observer has one thing to say then ...
Well done Pastor Eddie!
Well done!!!
ChristopherRayOlague 3 years ago
While there is an official state church, most of the growth (and the perceived potential threat to the government) takes place in the underground churches. Today, the government seems bent on doing more to smash the growing home church movement. As Christians, we have for the most part been accepting in praying about what is taking place in China yet a current policy of silence still takes place within our actions. The Olympics gave us the opportunity to break the silence and speak out...
ChristopherRayOlague 3 years ago
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For decades, China has been rounding up Christians and other dissidents. They have been beaten and thrown in jail. Some have been killed. Those who escape this persecution must live in a society where political and religious opinion is repressed, where journalists are jailed, and where the Internet and overseas broadcasts are censored.
The Chinese constitution promises its citizens that they have freedom of religious belief. But we, as informed US citizens, know better...
ChristopherRayOlague 3 years ago
China,
Just ratify the ICCPR and release Pastor Zhang Rongliang, Xu Fa, Hu Jia, Shi Toa and Guo Feixiong. Prove to the world you really are a new China! Show the world it is possible to fairly and justly govern over a billion people! Then you will have great influence on many nations! And many nations will have great respect for you!
jbr121318 3 years ago
How about the innocent Chinese hotel employees who may be punished for this absurd stunt geared only to YouTube viewers outside of that nation? Do they have no value to you because they may not be of your so called faith? Who will compensate them if they lose their jobs or are taken away for re-education just for seeing this vandalism? Will your desired results justify what happens to those people? Did anyone consider this possibility or do they not exist to you because they aren't Christian?
bburgis 3 years ago 3
All I can see is immature, there should b better ways to do it, or ppl wont support him. he said "all dmg will be paid for", it's like crash someone's balls and say "dont worry, i'll pay for the surgery'.. he can do these things at tiananmen square if he wants to be a hero. .
SunnyRain470 3 years ago
Lets be realistic do you honestly feel people would be interested or still be talking about it if they heard of a man protesting in the town square. Where are the people now or the stories of the protesters that did protest in the town square. Lets face it we live in a world that drastic measures get the attention. Like I stated before how can one feel a wall is more valuable then a human being. His actions were about raising awareness for the persecuted Now that we know what actions will we do
glamerlady 3 years ago
Hey krystal hahah so this guys ur pastor. He's in some deep shit haha.
WarMachine599 3 years ago 3
So are you by God. For saying that about a man of God. (From Heaven ). Just to let you know which one im talking about. Oh and pastor Eddie is reading this so you should say you are sorry. The lord commands it.
texashemisfair 3 years ago
china is around the same size as america, but with 1.3 billion+ ppl, it's hard to give everyone what they want in a country with these much ppl. There will be sacrifice if china want to be better. It's just my own opinion.
computerps2 3 years ago 3
i have the same opinion! China, it's a large country with large population. Just communism can control it. A lot of chinese people don't have education and the gouvernment try to help them, exemple build school, try to give education for every child... I think only the communism can do that.
wennychou 3 years ago 2
And a lot of chinese people can't understand democracy system because they must be educated beforce for that. We must impose. Chinese people were endured with wars. Now China is peace, so no one doesn't trouble this peace, if someone try to do some pressure for China like this fuckin shit Dai lama, he must be killed! There will be sacrifice if china want to be better.
Just give time for China to be the best!
Sorry for my english, i do my best!
wennychou 3 years ago
There's a lot of anti-China propaganda in America. The Americans need to stop drinking that Kool-aid. However, it seems like you've drunk the Anti-Dali Lama Kool-aid as well. There's also a ton of propaganda in China as well. No gov't or belief system has the answer to everything.
However, I agree that China needs more time. 20-30 years should do it. A blink of an eye, even China's 5,000 year history.
mangonut 3 years ago
Then why id you move to belgium and not stay in China and get educated there? For someone who doesn't know english well you sure can curse like a sailor! : )
otramosca 3 years ago
this was for wennychou
otramosca 3 years ago
i completley support this guy...
once he gets caught, death is more than a possibility...
major respect and props, even though, im not at all religious, i have tons of respect for this guy...
bmxboy443 3 years ago
Stop vandalizing Chinese hotels. Chinese people like china the way it is. If Bush cant change anything, what makes you think your graffiti is going to do ANYTHING? IF you want to better the world, go donate food to the homeless, cuz you are absolutely helping nobody.
ke422azn 3 years ago 3
selfishness
toutsurlachine 3 years ago 2
by definition when you do something for yourself not others. This is for the plight of the persecuted church.
jshep7 3 years ago
You are no better than the common L.A. tagger! You go to China to paint your cause on motel room walls, and this is going to help anyone HOW?? I hope you get punished to the fullest extent of the law in China. You do not go into another country and break their laws!
The bible says we are to obey the law of the land. You are not in the US now! You are in China!! Again, this helps your cause HOW?? By showing the world what an idiot you are?
Amen Kinkyking and bburgis!!
momofgjc 3 years ago 3
LA taggers tag to get known and for turf. Gadfly did an extreme thing to get attention for the persecution and raise awareness. Same act maybe but driven by different motives. separate the two and maybe you will understand.
jshep7 3 years ago
Sorry jshep7...I still don't buy it. The man deliberately vandalized property. I have fits about morons who have no respect for others property...and he has none, obviously! If he wanted to get his message across then he should have handed out bibles..discreatly placed them around town, not destroy property. That would have been a more effective way and much less destructive means of doing it. This way he makes all of us Christians look like looney bins!!! He is giving all of us a bad name!!
momofgjc 3 years ago 2
Once again stop focusing on the act and hear the message! mark 2...the friends of a paralytic cut a whole in a roof to get their friends in to see Jesus to be healed....Jesus never commented on the vandalism..he healed the man...Gadfly is no Jesus....just someone who "cut a whole in a roof" But he will pay for it!
otramosca 3 years ago
I think that your tone is all wrong! People like you want to continue to pontificate from the bubble you live in and when someone like gadfly does something like paint some walls in a hotel you criticize him for it. Do something worthwhile raise your voice for those who have no voice. Please no name calling we're all on the same team right?
otramosca 3 years ago
So you are saying the ends justifies the means? No matter what he destroys in the process?
So if this is the case, you would have no problem with someone who was Muslim, or say a devil worshiper going into a motel room or wherever and painting their message all over the walls? After all they believe in thier cause also.
momofgjc 3 years ago
Nope not saying that ... Don't just assume I accept your conclusions so freely and literally. Reread and try again.
My attention was drawn toward the message not so much the method...the Chinese Government has the right and will undoubtly pass judgment on the method, yet praying that somehow the right and fair consequence will be passed down from the Lord...
(A muslim & devil worshiper would have a whole different set of ethics involved ...)
ChristopherRayOlague 3 years ago
Let's look a little deeper...his last words before departure:
"The point isn't to be destructive...we're not trying to break things. But how do we say it, without having to be belligerent, without being nasty? [We want] to make a point, make a stand, so that they [the CCP] have to hear, and hopefully understand. And if this giant wheel of justice moves forward by just one click...that's OK, that's OK. This appears to be a contradiction. [But it is] making a statement in a dramatic way..."
inthelight20 3 years ago
The video continues, and shows him paint a key Bible text on the wall, "Who is my neighbour?" [Lk 10:29]. As he does so, he makes an appeal to the viewers to understand the victims of the Chinese authoritarianism have faces, and asks the viewers to open their hearts to the pain of the prisoners, and finally he asks the viewers to "do their part".
Can we do our part for their sake. You can dismiss this whole event if you'd like for sure but if you've any heart for these people, please, act now.
inthelight20 3 years ago
Way to go! Gadfly is representing the good of man. Tell it Like it Is. Wooohooo ..
SGV BABY!
ob1kan0b 3 years ago
san gabriel vally is the shit.
fuck fontana.
bmxboy443 3 years ago
You Fundamentalist Zealot Ass! Don't you realize that your vandalism shall result in the harshest of penalties for the innocent hotel employees. You sir, are a coward. You should have stood publicly in front of cameras with your protest let yourself be arrested. Instead you choose to skulk around like some self-proclaimed stealth whack job and embarrass our nation. Save some face for yourself now while you still can, man-up, and turn yourself in.
bburgis, NYC Hotel Worker, Queens, NY
bburgis 3 years ago 3
"An individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for the law."
-Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Gadfly has planned to do exactly this. GET OVER THE PROPERTY DAMAGE AND RAISE YOUR VOICES ALREADY. Chinese people need your support and the window of time is closing.
inthelight20 3 years ago
I know Pastor Ed,He is truly a humble man and believes in what he is doing. he has prayers and our full support. Mission accomplished, the whole world is talking about the Chinese Christians who are being locked up just for their faith by this communist Country.
zendejg 3 years ago
Wait, wait...you wrote your slogans in ENGLISH? And you wanted the CHINESE to get the message?
It's stupid enough to do this inside a hotel room where no one but the janitor will read your messages, but to do it in your own (their foreign)language and expect to be seen as some kind of hero? Expect your messages and your ass to be embraced?
You have made those who have seen your act of vandalism...I mean ARTISTIC mural painting...more defensive of their country. GOOD JOB.
Ruffage 3 years ago 4
It was in chinese.. Look under the Beijing 2008. Next time do better research.
abstrakone 3 years ago
Hello he did write it in Chinese too.
texashemisfair 3 years ago
i wonder if he truly believes he is accomplishing something; or if this is just a pathetic bid for attention.
acidsurfers 3 years ago 3
I am Grace V. Ok Lets do the math.A very well known Pator with many members and well know and loved by many. Goes to China and spends his hard earn money cause he is also a proffesor and has many students, Is doing this for attention hello, now what do still think he is doing this for attention or to reapeat after me save lifes.
texashemisfair 3 years ago
relax, Grace. first try proof reading your comments and a doing a spell check. you obviously know him as "pastor" and not "professor".
acidsurfers 3 years ago
Oh wow. Now you really hurt my feelings. Lol
texashemisfair 3 years ago
fag.
toddsucks2 3 years ago
Nice, very little risk involved. If you hadnt taped it to show they would have covered it up. Way to show the world your heroic protest... from within locked hotel rooms.
jedus1 3 years ago
Eddie
You are an idiot. We cannot even close our own borders or provide health care to our people. Worry about our problems first. I hope they lock your ass up.
ADN2XTC 3 years ago 3
And good luck trying to leave. You had to show your passport upon checking into those hotels. Sadly, you deserve whatever punishment they decide to dish out.
kinkykinglatex 3 years ago 5
I'm an American living in China. I've never wasted my time to comment on a Youtube video, but your video deserves a response. If you think that destroying private property will benefit your cause, you are wrong. You have no right to deface hotel rooms! Why should those companies pay for your juvenile stunt? Man, you are just the type of religious fanatical weirdo the Chinese gov't is trying to protect its people from. Good job playing right into their hands, you bizarre asshole!
kinkykinglatex 3 years ago 7
absolutely right on.
acidsurfers 3 years ago 3
I agree with KinkyKing, this is NOT the right way to get your message across. I agree with the fact that the plight of peoples in China needs to be brought to light, this just isn't the way to do it. Are you going to video tape your arrest/"turning in" and get THAT posted here too?
ritties 3 years ago 2
Then how would you do it? Stand in front of a camera be arrested and then deported 1 hour later case closed and back to your life, or put it on the line and turn yourself in and accept whatever punishment?
jshep7 3 years ago
If he doesn't get arrested on camera, I wouldn't be surprised if he just disappears completely and forever. That's why he needs to turn himself in on camera now.
bburgis 3 years ago
one thing, there are christian churches in china. i know someone but he asked me not to ask him too many questions, but they are all underground, i understand what he is trying to do, but there are christian churches, again just underground.
PARREZ 3 years ago
If everyone would take the time to do some research on this as I have they would find that this is what its all about.They don't have the freedom so they have to go underground and aren't free to talk about it.There are people in persecution that have been caught. After watching the press conference one would have to believe that he did consult with others because Bob Fu of China Aid who was persecuted himself for his belief was there speaking on his behalf imgadfly must have some insight
pdogx11 3 years ago
pdogx11, I agree with you. Through all of this I have been educated about the persecuted in China. I know iamgadfly will have to be held accountable for his actions but weather we agree or disagree on what he did, we have to be honest with ourselfs that he did partly accomplish what he was out to do and that is to raise the awareness. This has everyone across the world talking about it. Now if the China government does ratify and release then lets not judge but be thankful and PRAISE GOD!
glamerlady 3 years ago
The US, as a result of our current administration, has enough of its own problems. Come back and protest here concerning recent torture disclosures, violations of the Geneva Convention and the suspension of due process. Based on the videos, he appears to be a self-absorbed, attention-starved hypocrite and a vandal. It's embarrasing the way some Americans are acting while guests in China for the Olympic Games. Also, enough with the "Blair Witch" lighting and sound effects! Overall, a poor video.
sbinsdca 3 years ago 3
Mooseseeker, again, many of us are with you on this, seeking to reform Chinese policy peacefully, engaging the people-- but vandalism like this only damages the cause. I was recently in touch with a friend currently in China, there with his church, combating injustice-- and the Romero affair is already damaging their efforts, since authorities are now suspicious of Americans there in general, esp. Christian groups. Pastor Romero's actions are at best poorly-considered, at worst selfish.
ChuckyJJCthulhu 3 years ago 2
I refer you to the bible passage where four brothers wanted to save their sick friend. Jesus was in a house and it was too crowded to get to him. They decided to get on the roof and dig a hole through the roof and let their friend down. Because of their faith Jesus commended them and healed their friend. Breaking through the roof is property damage but yet Jesus commended them.
mooseseekeroftruth 3 years ago
In reading what iamgadfly's project is all about it is about raising awareness. We can't now say we did not know or weren't aware of it. We now know so we have the right and freedom for what I understand this is what it is all about so we can either sit back judge and do nothing or write letters in good faith to the different agencies. Lets be real if imgadfly did not do what he did would we all be talking about it. Would we be interested if he raised a sign or sat on the street or starved?
glamerlady 3 years ago
Inthelight, the little "graffiti" tossed on the walls in that hotel caused real damage that ordinary Chinese in that private hotel-- not the government-- have to deal with. The first step in successfully protesting is to show love and respect for the common people, and encourage them to bring about change from within, peacefully. This process is in fact occurring in that country, with many of us engaged in the effort. Vandalism such as this, only sets back all our efforts.
ChuckyJJCthulhu 3 years ago 3
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Hey! MENTO! can you spell? are U in the wrong state of mind? THIS man is not working for himself. He is working for God Almighty. It doesn't matter what the penalties are. I admire him for that. STRANGE LAND, STRANGE ENVIRONMENT.WHAT would U do? Do U have The GUTS to stand for the cause?
alert724 3 years ago
Alert, many people (including some in prior Christian volunteering groups I have associated wtih), have claimed to be working for God Almighty, then committed acts of embezzlement or even violence, trying to rationalize it away. One does God's work by showing it one's actions, not one's claims, and I'm sorry, but vandalizing a hotel with innocent people (no government connection) goes against this. The first element in any successful protest is respect for the common people, not shown here.
ChuckyJJCthulhu 3 years ago 2
It's funny...this man comes from Usa...and goes to Cina for human rights!!! Do you remember death penalty, torture, abductions, wars, golpes etc etc made by your own government?
negrodevilla 3 years ago 7
Very true, but we don't get thrown in jail for distributing Bibles. This is a cry for religious freedom, freedom of choice, freedom to believe in what you want to believe, freedom to comment the way you want for example. Many people in China do not have this freedom. Is the USA perfect, the answer is no. All we are asking is the Chinese government ratify the human rights agreement they have already signed.
mooseseekeroftruth 3 years ago
I love all the back and forth of this, this is what God wants, he wants us talking about this. He wants our focus on China. The more positive and negative comments on this the more this becomes news. So thank you to all who have commented. Please continue so the CCP has to arrest him. This is what he planned from the beginning. The CCP has always been about saving face to the World.
mooseseekeroftruth 3 years ago
Extreme injustice calls for extreme measures. lbmofo needs to read a bit of history. Start with the Boston Tea Party. Our cowardly sensibilities in the west have made us "very nice" and manageable. This is not over. Stay tuned for a couple weeks. And pray that the Chinese govt will be shamed and prayed into change. The world is watching now. Even lbmofo.
WilliamFrancisWelsh 3 years ago
That guy will be caught for sure as when you ask your tourist visa, you must show all reservations that you did in Chinese hotels. So they can trace him. Also, with that video on youtube, i guess that now they really know his face. i don't think that things will happen really well for him at the airport when he'll return home. Another thing, i'd call this "a useless voice for voiceless" cause tell me in what it helps these people ? Just the symbol ? you'd better be involved in something useful !
ptvec 3 years ago 3
Why anyone want to chase him? None authority cares about he. He just common criminal. He just make everyone voiceless. He put -2 on my response. He no threatening of CCP. They think he comedy mand,.
HuangDi88ba 3 years ago 5
Iamgadfly, I pray that your message will be received and action will take place. That people will have an understanding of what your message is truely about. Love and Compassion for the persecuted.
glamerlady 3 years ago
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Gadfly, you truly are a brave man and I hope people can see past the "graffiti" you did and can help you to strike the heart of the Chinese authorities for the sake of their people and for the freedom of all people. We Americans sometimes are too content in our little perfect world. The plight of the Chinese people is tremendous and you're right, it wasn't as big as it could have been. I support you. Ignore all of the stupid comments being posted. May they one day have the freedom that we have!
inthelight20 3 years ago
Paid for or not, it is wrong to damage others' property. It would equate to a foreigner coming to US to trash a bunch of hotels because they are protesting the mis-treatment of political prisoners in Guantanamo!
lbmofo 3 years ago 7
Another dumb self righteous American!
lbmofo 3 years ago
You should not talk about yourself like that.
texashemisfair 3 years ago
谢谢您关心中国的人权状况,而且行为艺术做得极其精彩,支持呀!
Thanks for appealing to release Chinese dissidents and caring about human rights in China. You are so kind~ but you know, our gov won't give a thought about ICCPR.
talentroger 3 years ago
Actually, with international eyes upon them, the Chinese government has been known to release dissidents. Are the dissidents free from watching eyes and further persecution? No but regardless -take heart!
Jamminredheaded 3 years ago
Sheep.
j1b1dus 3 years ago
奥运加油!中国加油!北京加油!
我为我是中国人而感到自豪!
zlh385519209 3 years ago
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Sir, could you please tell me what you are proud of your own chinese? Slave, unfreedom of faith, unfreedom of speech, or anything else? If the international Christian organizations don't help us in china history, your mam, sisters were bound their feet. do you know that? don't foolish yourself.
oftgm 3 years ago
This Sir, I don't know you from that some matters which understand concerning China.But I can tell you, China in nowadays is no longer like your China in the image, she is a nation which continuously develops innovation to pursue science and technology civilization now and very obviously state the Ao success is an example, I think that the IOC always will not hand over to a nation of distrust of Olympic games.
zlh385519209 3 years ago 6
1st, I am a chinese, come from china. I knew the whole thing about the china you imaged. I wonder whether you believed what you said?
oftgm 3 years ago
I wish you so much luck and I know every one from CCHB is praying for your safty, not only that but your susess in what your doing<3
I have been inspired by this and have started working on something God called my heart to as well. A story not to far off from this one.
So please come home safe so my team and I can show you what we are doing.
Your in our plrays and thoughs as well as the people that need to be set free
Child of GOd and your sister in Christ
Rebekah green
age 17
Keria90 3 years ago
Hey Mr.Romero-Luv ur East L.A taggin' skills! ur so cool!It's Paula and I'm here at Berkeley presenting research on Moderate Islam, popular technology and youth in the U.K!!! Good Luck!
LovinLaVerne 3 years ago
Please the Gadfly is doing his best in Beijing, have some respect, GO Gadfly GO...
and truly "LET MY PEOPLE GO" says Our Lord
EXODUS8ONE... you rock the world for JESUS!
usmcdoc53 3 years ago
Undoubtedly there are those who will criticize this action. They would have criticized Jesus' action in the temple as well. I know the gadfly's heart. It is "For the King Jesus - And for His Kingdom - Until the King Returns." May the brutal bully of communist china be shamed to Let God's People Go. Grace & Peace to you, Gadfly. GIG
WilliamFrancisWelsh 3 years ago
very nice, great job!!
oceanful 3 years ago
nice!
good job..
-alexandru muresan
m0uz 3 years ago