Bible is not the Word of God because no one can prove it is the Word of God. Christianity is not the religion of God because Christians cannot prove them right. They can ONLY disprove others!
@Pentagon1337 Ive actually thought about Chuck Noris becoming some deity in the future because, like you said, in 2000 years people will think Chuck Noris actually did all those feats.
Once the Sun revolved around the Earth, and if U claimed the Earth revolved around the Sun you would be put to the stake for heresy!
Xtians say that god created the universe out of nothing, you could be stating that god created the universe out of what was already there if a different side of the debate was won in the 3rd C.,the reason you make one claim over the other is that one side won over the other in the debate.
Don't be so sure that what you state is true, for one day it may be heresy.
@howlphantomwolf I'd first have to be convinced there is a god and he's given me commands, before I can disobey him. It's immoral to punish anyone for something they don't realize is wrong (or for anything out of their control)
A minor correction: you are talking about Gospel according to. The clergy & the congregation are ignorant. Amazingly so much has written about a person who never existed. Jesus of Gospel never existed. Nazareth did not exist at the time Jesus was supposedly have been there. Disciples of a Non Existing Prophet, writing 4 books & umpteen pages? It really beats Star Wars & Wizard of Oz. 'You believe in history but not the Bible.' famous quote of a Christian. How can anyone talk to Christians?
Be amazed how many people screw up basic stuff that's in the Bible. My senior year world history book claimed that King David was King Saul's son. A Xian lady had notes for a Bible study that she was conducting, found and perused her notes, she called Saul's dad "King Kish."
I asked my aunt who goes to protestant church 'What religion was Jesus'??? and she said Jesus was a Christian.I told her Jesus was a Jew, and she honestly firmly argued that he wasn't a Jew.This coming from a Christian who actually goes to church and quotes the bible all the time.
@williamblair11 Unfortunately, I have to agree with you that many (even maybe most) people that call themselves Christian are ignorant of the teachings of Scripture. It is quite probable that most people that refer to themselves as Christians are not true, Born-again (saved) Christians. Jesus addressed this issue at the end of Matthew chapter seven.
Wow...getting personal. Lets just say it like it is, compare the Bible to other historical writings and it stands unmatched and unparalleled. Its funny that most people that dis the Bible have never read it.
@101truthseeker "unmatched and unparalleled" how? It is a remarkable piece of literature. I have read the bible several time and the host of this show has read it several times as well. It is a great book of the period. That is it. It is full of error, badly written passages, errors in logic, horrific morally bankrupt behavior endorsed and caused by god. If god wrote that book, he isn't too bright.
@ultim4t32 Unmatched in its historical and prophetic claims for sure. I beg to differ that it is "full of error." (Please give specifics) There are some passages that are difficult to understand, your perspective in "errors in logic" may be in - that God's ways are not always our ways (but please, once again, be specific), horrific morally - I would agree that the Bible is blunt and honest as to Man's moral depravity. To say that it is "caused" by God would be incorrect.
@101truthseeker Examples of god doing horrific acts in the bible: Killing of thousands of babies and children at the passover, rules for slavery, rules laid out for proper ways to behave after raping a woman, ordering Abraham to murder his son, human sacrifice etc. There are hundreds of examples of these things in the bible. Someone doing these things then prattling on about human depravity is hilarious and hypocritical.
@ultim4t32 I'll briefly address a couple of your entries and address the others later when you provide some specificity...The passover deaths occurred because of the hardness of Pharaoh's heart. Although the Bible reveals that God hardened his heart it also reveals his attitude toward God and his people. See Rom chapter 1 for clarity. You misunderstand Abraham's orders to sacrifice his son. God knew all along he would not.
@101truthseeker Pharoah's heart does not justify killing hundreds or thousands of innocent children does it? Or does god get to do whatever horrific crime he wants and it is all good? I don't care what you believe. I am very familiar with the bible and the "justifications" for the actions taken. They don't hold any water IMO. BTW why isn't thou shalt not rape one of the 10 commandments? Perhaps it is because god not only condoned but commanded rape of women in the old testament.
@ultim4t32 I'll do you better in bringing up the flood during Noah's time and the coming judgment of God on this planet and its inhabitants. Sin and its consequences can be horrific and proper judgment can be righteous. Your basis for "horrific" is based on what standard and authority of morality? Also, there is no place in the Bible where God commands rape of women.
Quite right. Since the bible is not a historical document. It is a collection of allegorical stories, none of which are corroborated by historical documentation in any way. Someone who's read the bible ought to know that.
@Inclousid The Bible is not a historical document? The Bible is not SOLELY a historical document. Are you telling me that the historical accuracy about the nation Israel and many other nations and city locations from the Bible are incorrect? Please research it and you will find amazing accuracy. Do you need website or article information?
@101truthseeker It's nice how you sideswipe what I actually said and interjected cities, locations, etc. which any story book would include. But let me reiterate. None of the biblical stories (Noah, Moses, Jesus, the Exodus, etc.) have any basis in reality, and cannot be corroborated by any historical account. Clearer for you?
And errors? Why does Jesus have 3 different birthdates? Why are there 3 different versions of his last words? This is not 'hard to understand', it's wrong, fullstop.
For the people who know who Yeshua is and not accept it, they are Guilty.
For the people who dont know about Yeshua they are NOT Guilty for they never had a Chance to be Saved and will have their Chance during the Ressurection.
You're right The Bible is Not the Word of God but Jesus is still the ONLY way to HEAVEN - just watch this video: Is the Bible the "Mark of the Beast"?! What is the "Word of God"? from Doug @ fellowship of the martyrs.
by St Athanasius in the 4th century A.D. I dont see how atheists seems to think they hit the jack pot on this. This has been known by many educated christians for some time. It in no way undermines our faith
@lordrectumslasher or maybe atheists commit the fallacy of scientism by think that anything that is not observable by the scientific method is non-sense?
@jamaicanification Oh, you're one of those "science is a religion" individuals. How else should we judge them, by mystical BS like the stuff you believe? Please, you need to get an education. Has your religion increased life expectancy, or invented life saving surgeries, or anything that improves the human condition? No, it only offers false hope to the gullible.
@lordrectumslasher i am not one of those 'science is a religion' individual so stop making non-sensical assumptions. And i have an education. I have a 4.0 average in university and im doing a double major in History and political science. Let me spell this out for you so you understand. I accept evolution. I accept the big bang. I believe science has advanced humanity. I dont accept Scientism which is the error many atheists commit all the time
@lordrectumslasher fair enough. often when discussing religion the discussion can get heated. But i think that the world makes more sense when you accept that there is a creator, because it gives things a purpose and it seems more logical. now im not saying atheists should be forced to believe this, im just saying it makes more sense to me
3)There was a prime cause which itself is infinite
Since i think most people would think something cant come from nothing, you only have the last two choice left. Either a regressive process with no intelligibility, or a Prime Cause that willed things into existence. I think the Prime Cause makes more sense(continued)
I'm sure you have heard of anti-matter, and of course matter. If the occurence of anti-matter in the universe equals that of matter, then technically the total mass of the universe is zero, and therefore technically equals nothing.
There are many other possibilities to investigate before we say "I give up, god must have done it."
@paulpizzey1973 i know that. Thats why i said on the atheistic world view you either have something comes from nothing, or an infinite regress. If you look in a strictly naturalistic fashion, then yes your gonna end up with the conclusion that something comes from nothing. The problem is that is illogical because something can't come from nothing. It defies the laws of physics. And far from me giving up, im excited(continued)
@jamaicanification It's fascinating to me that people like yourself say "something from nothing" is irrational and illogical, while in the same breath believing their god created the universe from nothing. Always ad moshing atheists for something they themselves believe. I think that's called Hypocrisy. Seem a very common thing in Christianity. Additionally, the Big Bang does not say something came from nothing. It proposes the universe started with a singularity, and that is a something.
@Inclousid The prevailing theory in science does not say something from nothing. That is a strawman argument. It is only the christians that say "something from nothing". AronRa has a great explanation on this.
@Inclousid I never said the big bang said that. I know it speaks about everything coming from a singularity. You guys are the ones that ad mosh christians all the time for believing in a God when the consequences of your 'lack of belief' is either that we came from an infinite regress, or that we came from nothing. An infinite regress of atoms, or coming from nothing seems less rational than believing in a designer. Your the ones pulling the insults. I just respond
@jamaicanification You realize you can't say something from nothing is impossible when you think your God is something from nothing. Why does the evidence of Evolution seem less rational than wild assertions with no evidence in a 2,000 year old book? Please ANSWER THE QUESTION, and don't beat around the bush like every damn Christian. "He always was"..."How do you know?"...."The Bible says"....How do you know the Bible is the Word of God"...."The Bible says". Give me something
@RobWRobins calm down tiger. Dont get your panties in a bunch. I never spoke a word against evolution. I accept the scientific evidence for Neo-Darwinian evolution, Abiogenesis, and the Big Bang. So lets clear that up. I believed that God willed the universe into existence. What im saying is that everything in life has an external cause that brings it into being. Nothing brings itself into being or else that is self contradictory(continued)
@jamaicanification "I believe that external Prime cause of the universe is God." So you're saying that God created what was before the Big Bang, and what he created before the Big Bang caused the Big Bang that created the universe? (Just trying to understand exactly what you mean by "Prime cause of the universe")
@jamaicanification Could you expand on your completely contradictory statements? How can the "consequences" of a lack of belief in a god be that we came from nothing, when no scientific theory ever stated we came from nothing? You're repeating exactly the same thing. Putting words in others mouths and then calling them irrational for things they never said. Astounding. Your "designer" made the universe from nothing. How do you distinguish this as rational from scientific theory?
@Inclousid I never said that scientific theories say that we came from nothing. Im just saying the options philosophical are from what we've gathered so far that a) we came from nothing, b) the universe came from something, coming from something else(infinite regress) or c) an external prime cause. Im not holding to be. Im just saying thats an option, and i have heard many atheists such as Daniel Dennet say that is an option(continued)
@jamaicanification And I would also like you to address the disconnect in your reasoning. If you cannot get something from nothing, as you keep presenting as an argument, then how did your god do it? And I would like a rational answer that does not resort to special pleading.
@Inclousid Plus you defined your position as having a lack of belief in God. That seems to be a form of negative atheism(which really is a sophisticated for of agnosticism repackaged) so what your really doing is appealing to an agnostic argument, which shifts the nature of the discussion
@jamaicanification You certainly like to use buzz words to muddle things don't you. Atheism IS the lack of belief in a deity. What, under your misunderstanding, do you think it means? And we're not talking about philosophical arguments here, your claims step overtly into the realm of science. You claim your god is a real entity, and you claim it created the universe. These claims therefore must be addressed using factual critical analysis. (cont)
@Inclousid Firstly, go do some research on the different types of atheism because you yourself seem not to know. There is positive atheism(which asserts that there is no deity), and negative atheism which is just a form of non-theism that states they lack a belief in God because of a lack of evidence being presented. And my claim of god does not step into the scientific era. It is properly in the (continued)
@jamaicanification Only religious people try to make this issue more complicated than it actually is, so bravo to you for pulling the party line. However there is only one meaning of Atheism, the non-belief in a deity.
And your claim does not step into the scientific arena? Great, so you're fully admitting that your god is just an idea and does not exist in reality? Sorry, but ideas can't create universes. That takes an existent being, according to your again contradictory, previous claim.
@Inclousid not really. If you go to the etymology of the word 'Atheism' it means one that asserts that there is no god. You've just redefined it to mean 'non-theism', to which i say that agnostics, apatheists, and a verificationists are all non-theists. Certain Animatists are even non-theists. As to my idea that God is an idea that does not exist in reality, i can easily refute this with the ontological argument(continued)
@jamaicanification "If you go to the etymology of the word 'Atheism' it means one that asserts that there is no god."
Wrong again. Athiesm from the greek 'a' - without, + 'theos' - god. To make a positive assertion there is no god, is just as incorrect as making a positive assertion there is a god. There is only one premise atheism asserts. The theist claim "There is a god", the atheist rebut "I don't believe you". Any other assertions do not represent atheism.
@Inclousid Now, to go into this a little further, god is the greatest conceivable idea out there because the standard definition of God or a Supreme Being is one that is perfect, omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, infinite and all knowing. Such a being, whether you think he exist or not is the greatest conceivable thing out there. Now, if he existed only in the mind then he would not be the greatest conceivable thing out there because he would be subject to the limited(continued)
@jamaicanification As to your ontological argument, if it wasn't non-sequitor (which it is) and it made any sense whatsoever, why then your "proof" would have everyone concivnced there was a god wouldn't it? Truth is, its nonsence. You have to keep in mind that everyone who claims "I have irrefutable proof there is a god" fails to realize that if they actually did, we would all be beleiving in this Chritian god. We don't, ergo your "proof" is nothing of the sort.
@Inclousid I said that i can refute your argument. I didn't say i have 'irrefutable proof' of God's existence. And prove where the ontological argument doesn't make sense instead of just making an assertion
@jamaicanification My argument is that you cannot show your god does exist in reality, and not only does your ontological argument fail to refute that, it is definately implying you have irrefutable proof your god exists. If you're going to debate your points, at least try to start and do it honestly.
"Something that exists both as an idea and in reality is greater than something that just exists as an idea"
Where in points 1 or 2 do you demonstrate existence in reality? Non-sequitor.
@Inclousid The statement "Something that exist both as an idea and in reality is better than something that exist as an idea" is just making a comparison. Points 1-2 doesn't have to demonstrate existence in reality because points 1-2 are just stating that God is the greatest conceivable thing and that he is something that we reflect on. And i am trying to deal with this as honestly as possible
@jamaicanification A "thing" is an object. Your god is an idea. So once again, before you can call it a "thing", demonstrate that it is indeed a "thing".
@Inclousid Dont mean to cut you off, but did you hear about Christopher Hitchens dying? I really had hoped that he would recover from his condition. Even though im christian and i disagreed with a lot of his positions, i feel bad for him and his family.......:(
@jamaicanification Hitchens’s was unfortunately one of the last proponents for Reason in this world. It terrifies me to know that 1.6 billion people in this world are actually looking forward to the demise of mankind with a glee that is quite simply breathtaking. We are striving to bring this world to annihilation under the guise of a self-fulfilling prophecy, and he was one among few who are trying to stop it. He will be sorely missed.
@Inclousid Lots of people say they look forward to death, but a lunatic with a gun could get most of them to verbally renounce their God if it meant a chance for them to continue living. Most of the apocalyptic talk is just that; talk.
@Inclousid construct of our minds, and there is no way that that an infinite being can just exist as just as an idea in the mind of a finite, fallible being. Its like saying that number infinity is just an idea that exist in our mind. It certainly is something that we reflect on, but we can't fully fathom it because our minds are finite. Therefore its impossible for the number inifinte to just be contained as a construct of our minds(continued)
@paulpizzey1973 the new discoveries being made about the universe because it think its fascinating how god created it. Im also fascinated with things like string theory, parallel universe, and how the universe will end. These are natural questions i leave up to the scientists to figure out. It in no way diminishes my faith
@ndrthrdr1 yes, but those possibilities boil down to those 3. Alot of the ones your proposing are a spin on the infinite universe model i proposed. Saying matter and energy have always existed is just a more diluted form of that argument. The others you proposed are a diluted form of 'i dont know'. When explaining the development of something, i dont know is just stating your ignorance. You ignorance has no relevance to the possibilities(continued)
@jamaicanification So what your saying that it all boils down to some self described messiah, a Galilean jewish rabbi jesus? Walked on water, changed water into wine, raised dead people, raised himself from being dead? You really need to see a shrink!
@spareaxe ??????I guess 99% of people who walked the planet needed to see a shrink because they were religious and nature selected you to launch an intellectual crusade hugh? Dont you feel so special? Are you gonna do some propitiation now just to thank mother nature for her benevolent kindness? Obviously im not saying it like that. your distorting my argument. Your the one who needs the medical assistant cause apparently you cant read
@spareaxe oh , and will you come with me? that'll be lovely. We can get the shrink to do a test run on you first, just ta make sure my procedure goes well. The shrink can fix some screws loose up there as part of the test run. Maybe he can find the irrational circuit in your brain that tells you everything come from nothing like a pop up book, and fix it up so you wont have irrational foundations for your advocacy of atheism. How does that sound :)?
@spareaxe really. You sure you've taken yours? Im really worried about you. You think things can come from nothing. Thats like pullin a houdini on a massive scale. You sure your mentally stable? I could recommend a psychiatric institute for you to go to
@jamaicanification You realize your God did something that's not "like pulling a Houdini" your God LITERALLY "pulled a Houdini" to create everything and you believe it. So let me recommend you some psychiatric institutes.
@paulpizzey1973 Having said that i have no scientific proof of god's existence because science deals with the observable universe, and god is not part of the observable universe.....
@paulpizzey1973 creator doesn't have to mean a 'being.' Think of erosion of a large boulder being shaped by water into the shape of, what looks like a car. It's 'creator' was a force of nature but if there is no water around that area anymore & no sign that there was, would you conclude that someone did it? Or would you go by evidences of other stones being shaped by natures forces of erosion, wind, sand, water... what have you. Just providing an example. Maybe things just ARE. Who knows?
By around 70 A.D some say at the Council of Jamnia, the Tanakh was finalized without the apocryphal books included inside of it, though the setuagint continued to be used by the Orthodox Church. So before Marcion, the canon of the old testament was already set. In terms of the New testament, there is evidence that Origen of Alexandria already recognized the 27 books of the New testament, though they were considered "canonized" formally(continued)
of course god didn't say build this book. Any classical, educated christian knows that. And of course the process of building the biblical canon took years and years. Christians say the bible is the word of god written by men. So they were divinely inspired. But just a few notes. first, in terms of the old testament canon, you first had the Septuagint that includes the old testament apocrypha which was published under Ptolemy ii in the 3rd century BC(continued)
@Vikramthewhite for certain miracles performed. Sure. For gods existence. Not really. There are many arguments that can be put forward for his existence. But there are many things in the bible that archaeologists at first didn;t think existed. Take the ancient hittites. People thought they were a fable until archaeological evidence proved that the Hittites existed
numbers 31 17- 31 18 (kill all boys and men and those who have laid nex to a man but keep the wemon who have not laid next to a man for yourself)
romans 31 6 (This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing)Hitler ws gov. official
1st Peter 2 18 (Slaves submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh) new international language
We can take this approach to anything. Therefore any opinion that anyone has on anything is invalid. Morals, Laws , Constitution, Koran, Bible, Upanishads by comity blah blah blah........like...duh, thats how the world works. All things are arrived at through this evolutionary process. Its all relative. Therefore we should take no stock in any of it. But surprize surprize.......they do and its all belief ;)
Great information on this video. I always wondered the same things, how was it put together, who originally wrote it, etc. And even though there's alot of contradictions in the bible, people who "interpret" the verses when mainly "judging" someone, contradict themselves in so many ways
"My God is powerful and He is who helped us slay the pagans so Jews could take over their land"...Yeah...Why didn't God take over rich powerful Egypt or Assyria?
"Well, the Jews did some sinning for a time and God made them weak for a while and they couldn't take over the whole area. Yep...I made a lot of money in the stocks and God is Great...I then lost a lot of money in my stocks and I must have been weak and sinned..............
in the bible i have theres like 60 pages before genesis thats just history and shit about the bible. I discovered there have been like 30 translations of the bible, just think about how far away it is from its original meaning. Id bet there is no resembelance to the 'word of god' if there ever was such a thing
I remember when I was 6 and I jumped on the whole "My dad is stronger than your dad!" phase... Some people never grow out of that phase; they only replace the word "Dad" with "God"...
@straitleanin They're in Texas. It's not Muslims who are going around trying to get evolution out of the curriculum there. I'm sure they've touched on Islam plenty of times, though...
@IoEstasCedonta Many Islamics are fine evolution, so are Jewish, Buddhist, and Hindus; as a matter of fact many Christians are also. The only ignorant group is the type of people think Earth is 6-10 thousand years old.
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Lots of confused, misleading discussion in this rant. Since most of you deny the existence of God anyway, why now attempt to malign Him with unjustly condemning pple.Isn't this exactly what one might expect from intolerance- always omit the salient facts of His justice, mercy and purity. God will certainly judge righteously; faith says pple will get what they deserve.YES, the likes of rapists, murderers,thieves, slave-traders,robbers,greedy hypocrites,etc.. will go to Hell-but pple choose HELL
The bible says there are 2 species of man the Son's of God (Fallen angels that are our world leaders) and the Children of Israel (gods from Pleroma... the slave race) This guy above is a Son of God... you are a Child of Israel... all religions since 8th century AD are b/s... There is a reason why you are being mislead ...It is explained in the Apocryphon of John (Secret teachings of Jesus) go to: Unibooks.com "2012 Secrets and Mystery" Learn why you are here and why you are lied to.
@IoEstasCedonta Yes you are right you are a child of Israel and the man above in the picture is a son of god. Look to the roots of your religion and learn how things have changed... The Ancient Mayans had it right the children were tricked and trapped here. Did you ever wonder why the united nations has a snake crawling up a staff, American medical, pharmaceutical, American press... the snake represents the god they worship. The Egyptain God Geb is the father of snakes.. his son is Seth (God)
@IoEstasCedonta Did you know that Richard Nixon said the moon landing was faked? It was released in French media but the American media never said a thing.. the reason why the moon landing was faked is because it is not possible... everything we know about space is a lie... they faked it to increase atheism... In fact everything they've taught us is a lie.
@SethJesusSatan Richard Nixon also said he was not a crook. But yea we know how that goes. Even if it was a lie or not that we landed on the moon, it was justified at the time, since we wanted to win the space-race against Russia. Regardless we have landed on the moon several times before, no matter when, we still have. Even if people with conspiracy theories try to prove other wise.
Do you know of the Mars Rover? We have seen Mars. And we are able to create life there if we land personally.
@Raziel354 It wasn't to win the space race with Russia... the cold war was a scam to keep people living in fear... the moon was faked to fool you... to make gods seem like they don't exist... Aleister Crowley, Albert Pike, former illuminati members and the bible refer to the stars as gods (Deuteronomy 4:19) Crowley calls the stars god heads. No spacecraft ever landed on Mars or Jupiter; we’ve been lied to. We live in an imitation parallel universe to Pleroma.
@SethJesusSatan Are listening to yourself? Everything you have said so sound like conspiracy theories. To keep people living in fear? Religion and their depiction of the underworld are what keep people in fear. Fear to question things just because they think they will obtain eternal torture instead. Which btw, I have not read any where in the Bible the description of hell that we have today. So I am not sure where you Bible fanatics are getting your info, but I am positive is not from the Bible.
@Raziel354 I've studied the Apocryphon of John Egyptian Mythology, Hinduism, Mayans, Gnosticism and the occult. They all speak of the same events that didn’t make it to today’s religions. Albert Pike predicted all 3 world wars and their outcome correctly in 1871... Aleister Crowley had sex with hookers trying to give birth to the anti-christ.. pauline pierce had his daughter .. she was related to our 14th president.. she is the grandmother of George W Bush
@Raziel354 Nostradomus said the anti-christ name is Bush-Ohama... Crowley wasn't the father of the great beast ..but granddad... In skull and bones Bush's fraturnity name was temporary... Temporary what? do you know? ... Also it is believe that skull and bones a Yale university frat house runs the CIA ... believe it!
@SethJesusSatan He said the name of the Anti-Christ was MABUS, I have never herd of this Bush-Ohama. Second of all the depiction of the Anti-Christ in the Bible is that of a beast of several feet tall, no where is it described as looking human at all. Albert Pike was a mason, so is G.Bush and any one that has power in our society. So what? They are always saying a lot of things, and so are the people saying about them. Where is the proof? Many things said never came true.
@Raziel354 I apologize, I got my information from a Nostradamus scholar in the History Channel’s “Lost book of Nostradamus” Bush-Shama was the name he said… too bad they didn’t interview you; they would have gotten their information right! What wouldn’t they pay you enough? …Either I’m crazy with overwhelming proof or you’re a naïve idiot that thinks he knows it all… I pieced together a puzzle and it all adds up to logic! Go to a party and debate with someone that is drunk
@SethJesusSatan "Nostradomus said the anti-christ name is Bush-Ohama.">>> That is hands down the dumbest thing I've heard yet today. I admit that I am not up on all the rambling, incoherent and vague nonsense penned be the Nostro-man. I would be happy to be proven wrong here. Still, I will go out on a limb and guess that the actual passage that you are referring to does not contain anything close to "Bush-Ohama" (sic?)... Believe it? Laugh at it, maybe.
@rrpostalagain It was bush-shamma watch the video on youtube the lost book of Nostradamus... History channel movie... also explain why albert pike correctly predicted the 3 world wars, there reason for being and their outcome in 1871 (he's been perfect so far) ... explain the world trade center falling when you fold our money into airplanes.... explain why our money has occult symbols all over it ... explain to me why a can of monster energy drink has 666 on it in Hebrew.. I know why; wake up!
@IoEstasCedonta Islam is BS, the Koran calls the world flat just like the bible, it's creator was a pedophile and a misogynistic imperialist. The Koran used the immorality of the bible as inspiration as well as the so called pure ideals in it inflating both causing even greater contradictions than the bible. Sexist rabble is BS and quite ignorant, please read your Koran!
@IoEstasCedonta I thought you would respond.. we are all children of Plemora (Called in the Bible children of Isreal) and the others are Nephilim (Called in the Bible the Son's of God) The children are the ones that kill each other in wars, die of starvation and are enslaved.. Son's of God are the world leaders, powerful people and celebrities ...people of renown, you can tell who they are by the crowds cheering for them...
@IoEstasCedonta Did you know before the Muslim religion was started Mohammed was know as Mohammad the slaughterer ... he would convert people to his religion with his sword... also it says that he spent an abundant time with God.... God in both religions is Seth look him up in Egyptian Mythology they depict him correctly... you will find similarities to what you know as being god... sorry to tell you but I'm right, Open your eyes to the truth because they have done their best to sew them shut!
Christians do not want to limit anyone's human rights or personal dignity. On the contrary, Christians want to see the social advance and well being of our society and more than anything wants to see all people come to a perfect understanding of self and freedom from any manner of spiritual bondage by the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. who is above everything else in creation
my bad, allow me to elaborate, subsumed in the notion of hating God (of the Bible) is the denial and willful ignorance of His existence. Now this can get rather complicated, because there is a faith- position stating, in reality, you don't reality deny His existence even though "consciously you try to. This actually involves an important basis for faith in God- the idea that he 'deposits' an residual knowledge of himself in the mind of men. The hatred is 'revealed' when this is suppressed
Srsly, it never occured to me that the whole bible is word of god. I can't believe that there is someone that stupid like the woman who actually believes that nonsense.
@EnLugal well im guessing you don't live in america so you wouldn't be saying this. and if you dont live in america how the fuck would you know? oh yeah, basing it off random youtube videos!!! youre probably just a kid, but youre going to deny it
@EnLugal The entire world is stupid, and you should've drawn this conclusion a long time ago, since you've been in this world more or less consciously for about 20 years.
@EnLugal Well, you're among the more stupid people in Europe, and you pretty much go on par with stupid people in America. Stupidity has very little to do with nationality, but since you don't know better, you think it does.
@Quartrez Stupidity has much to do with a) education b) race. And because in USA you have the worst public school system in the developed world and you have a lot of ethnic minorities, it's logical that Americans are dumb. Only a dumb person can say that stupidity has a little to do with nationality, because every country and every nation dffers in development, average intelligence and education.
@EnLugal Then how comes even if two persons of the same race (race doesn't have anything to do with stupidity, get out of here) are in the same classes, and the same school, one is smarter than the other ? Hmmm ?
@Quartrez What kind of question is that? Obviously the one was born smarter than the other. But blacks and other minorities (except Asians) are in average more dumb than whites. Average is the keyword here. Also google something about the bell curve.
@bearwoodcarpentry , Actually I'm not laughing at the woman, she probably knows all about Jesus and the English language, she also knows that she is taking to people educated Texas style and tells them what they like to hear, so this doesn't expose ONE idiot.
@Evolvedprimate "The woman from Texas running for governor when asked about bilingual education said "if English was good enough for Jesus is good enough for me""
That's a funny story, but apparently it is just an urban legend no politician actually said that..
Bible is not the Word of God because no one can prove it is the Word of God. Christianity is not the religion of God because Christians cannot prove them right. They can ONLY disprove others!
Source: Experience with Christian wankers.
DarkestSide1000 1 week ago
@DarkestSide1000 Do you seem like a muslim or is it just me?...
offwithurhead 1 day ago
lf someone finds a ''Lord of the Rings book'' 2000 years from now, they will be wondering if it actually happend.
Pentagon1337 1 week ago 20
@Pentagon1337 Ive actually thought about Chuck Noris becoming some deity in the future because, like you said, in 2000 years people will think Chuck Noris actually did all those feats.
smiley17777777 4 days ago
@smiley17777777 And 2000 years later, when people find the ruins of New York City, they will be wondering if Spiderman really existed.
Pentagon1337 4 days ago
Once the Sun revolved around the Earth, and if U claimed the Earth revolved around the Sun you would be put to the stake for heresy!
Xtians say that god created the universe out of nothing, you could be stating that god created the universe out of what was already there if a different side of the debate was won in the 3rd C.,the reason you make one claim over the other is that one side won over the other in the debate.
Don't be so sure that what you state is true, for one day it may be heresy.
luciferous66 1 week ago
438 contradictions = shitty author = not a god
DaToNyOyO 1 month ago 2
I love you Tracie Harris!
519monsta 1 month ago 7
@519monsta Get off. She's mine.
DaToNyOyO 1 month ago
@howlphantomwolf I'd first have to be convinced there is a god and he's given me commands, before I can disobey him. It's immoral to punish anyone for something they don't realize is wrong (or for anything out of their control)
HeyHeyHarmonicaLuke 1 month ago
Good video
dRill3d 1 month ago
A minor correction: you are talking about Gospel according to. The clergy & the congregation are ignorant. Amazingly so much has written about a person who never existed. Jesus of Gospel never existed. Nazareth did not exist at the time Jesus was supposedly have been there. Disciples of a Non Existing Prophet, writing 4 books & umpteen pages? It really beats Star Wars & Wizard of Oz. 'You believe in history but not the Bible.' famous quote of a Christian. How can anyone talk to Christians?
amoralis123 1 month ago
Be amazed how many people screw up basic stuff that's in the Bible. My senior year world history book claimed that King David was King Saul's son. A Xian lady had notes for a Bible study that she was conducting, found and perused her notes, she called Saul's dad "King Kish."
RadarKat73080 1 month ago
Tracie is the best!!!! I like Jen too...lol
eldogg4life 1 month ago
I asked my aunt who goes to protestant church 'What religion was Jesus'??? and she said Jesus was a Christian.I told her Jesus was a Jew, and she honestly firmly argued that he wasn't a Jew.This coming from a Christian who actually goes to church and quotes the bible all the time.
williamblair11 1 month ago
@williamblair11 Unfortunately, I have to agree with you that many (even maybe most) people that call themselves Christian are ignorant of the teachings of Scripture. It is quite probable that most people that refer to themselves as Christians are not true, Born-again (saved) Christians. Jesus addressed this issue at the end of Matthew chapter seven.
101truthseeker 1 month ago
Born Atheist. Born Again Pastafarian. Arrrrrr!! (I'm a Pirate)
TheCrimsonification 1 month ago
All hail Jeff Dee!
Mossmyr 1 month ago
Wow...getting personal. Lets just say it like it is, compare the Bible to other historical writings and it stands unmatched and unparalleled. Its funny that most people that dis the Bible have never read it.
101truthseeker 2 months ago
@101truthseeker "unmatched and unparalleled" how? It is a remarkable piece of literature. I have read the bible several time and the host of this show has read it several times as well. It is a great book of the period. That is it. It is full of error, badly written passages, errors in logic, horrific morally bankrupt behavior endorsed and caused by god. If god wrote that book, he isn't too bright.
ultim4t32 1 month ago
@ultim4t32 Unmatched in its historical and prophetic claims for sure. I beg to differ that it is "full of error." (Please give specifics) There are some passages that are difficult to understand, your perspective in "errors in logic" may be in - that God's ways are not always our ways (but please, once again, be specific), horrific morally - I would agree that the Bible is blunt and honest as to Man's moral depravity. To say that it is "caused" by God would be incorrect.
101truthseeker 1 month ago
@101truthseeker Examples of god doing horrific acts in the bible: Killing of thousands of babies and children at the passover, rules for slavery, rules laid out for proper ways to behave after raping a woman, ordering Abraham to murder his son, human sacrifice etc. There are hundreds of examples of these things in the bible. Someone doing these things then prattling on about human depravity is hilarious and hypocritical.
ultim4t32 1 month ago
@ultim4t32 I'll briefly address a couple of your entries and address the others later when you provide some specificity...The passover deaths occurred because of the hardness of Pharaoh's heart. Although the Bible reveals that God hardened his heart it also reveals his attitude toward God and his people. See Rom chapter 1 for clarity. You misunderstand Abraham's orders to sacrifice his son. God knew all along he would not.
101truthseeker 1 month ago
@101truthseeker Pharoah's heart does not justify killing hundreds or thousands of innocent children does it? Or does god get to do whatever horrific crime he wants and it is all good? I don't care what you believe. I am very familiar with the bible and the "justifications" for the actions taken. They don't hold any water IMO. BTW why isn't thou shalt not rape one of the 10 commandments? Perhaps it is because god not only condoned but commanded rape of women in the old testament.
ultim4t32 1 month ago
@ultim4t32 I'll do you better in bringing up the flood during Noah's time and the coming judgment of God on this planet and its inhabitants. Sin and its consequences can be horrific and proper judgment can be righteous. Your basis for "horrific" is based on what standard and authority of morality? Also, there is no place in the Bible where God commands rape of women.
101truthseeker 1 month ago
@101truthseeker "unparalleled"
Quite right. Since the bible is not a historical document. It is a collection of allegorical stories, none of which are corroborated by historical documentation in any way. Someone who's read the bible ought to know that.
Inclousid 1 month ago
@Inclousid The Bible is not a historical document? The Bible is not SOLELY a historical document. Are you telling me that the historical accuracy about the nation Israel and many other nations and city locations from the Bible are incorrect? Please research it and you will find amazing accuracy. Do you need website or article information?
101truthseeker 1 month ago
@101truthseeker It's nice how you sideswipe what I actually said and interjected cities, locations, etc. which any story book would include. But let me reiterate. None of the biblical stories (Noah, Moses, Jesus, the Exodus, etc.) have any basis in reality, and cannot be corroborated by any historical account. Clearer for you?
And errors? Why does Jesus have 3 different birthdates? Why are there 3 different versions of his last words? This is not 'hard to understand', it's wrong, fullstop.
Inclousid 1 month ago
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For the people who know who Yeshua is and not accept it, they are Guilty.
For the people who dont know about Yeshua they are NOT Guilty for they never had a Chance to be Saved and will have their Chance during the Ressurection.
gfscarface13 2 months ago
If the KJV of the bible was good enough for jesus...then it is good enough for me!
KasparHauser6 2 months ago
@KasparHauser6 Assuming the Jesus u speak of exists, the KJV didnt even exist until like 1600 years after Jesus was even born.
RandomBS88 2 months ago
I didn't have the internet as a kid when I became a non-believer. All I had was the bible and that was enough.
ShaggyShagz13 2 months ago
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okkp 2 months ago
Below is sarcasm
marioandluigi101 2 months ago
Oh, oh really. Hmmm, well I didn't know that
marioandluigi101 2 months ago
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You're right The Bible is Not the Word of God but Jesus is still the ONLY way to HEAVEN - just watch this video: Is the Bible the "Mark of the Beast"?! What is the "Word of God"? from Doug @ fellowship of the martyrs.
lifeInAFallenWorld22 2 months ago
by St Athanasius in the 4th century A.D. I dont see how atheists seems to think they hit the jack pot on this. This has been known by many educated christians for some time. It in no way undermines our faith
jamaicanification 3 months ago
@jamaicanification That's because people of faith don't see reality.
lordrectumslasher 3 months ago
@lordrectumslasher or maybe atheists commit the fallacy of scientism by think that anything that is not observable by the scientific method is non-sense?
jamaicanification 2 months ago
@jamaicanification Oh, you're one of those "science is a religion" individuals. How else should we judge them, by mystical BS like the stuff you believe? Please, you need to get an education. Has your religion increased life expectancy, or invented life saving surgeries, or anything that improves the human condition? No, it only offers false hope to the gullible.
lordrectumslasher 2 months ago
@lordrectumslasher i am not one of those 'science is a religion' individual so stop making non-sensical assumptions. And i have an education. I have a 4.0 average in university and im doing a double major in History and political science. Let me spell this out for you so you understand. I accept evolution. I accept the big bang. I believe science has advanced humanity. I dont accept Scientism which is the error many atheists commit all the time
jamaicanification 2 months ago
@jamaicanification I think you could do yourself a big favor by discarding yoru religion. That's all I'm saying. I apologize for being rude.
lordrectumslasher 2 months ago
@lordrectumslasher fair enough. often when discussing religion the discussion can get heated. But i think that the world makes more sense when you accept that there is a creator, because it gives things a purpose and it seems more logical. now im not saying atheists should be forced to believe this, im just saying it makes more sense to me
jamaicanification 2 months ago
@jamaicanification You accept evolution and the big bang, yet refer to a creator? What did this creator create if not the universe or humans?
paulpizzey1973 2 months ago
@paulpizzey1973 the universe.....i dont get the point of your question
jamaicanification 2 months ago
@jamaicanification You think the big bang theory is that GOD created the universe?
paulpizzey1973 2 months ago
@paulpizzey1973 i dont fully know how the universe was created so i couldn't say for certainty. But i do believe God is the Prime Cause
jamaicanification 2 months ago
@jamaicanification Well we agree on that. Nobody KNOWS how the universe came about. It's refreshing to hear a theist say "I don't know".
So why make your default position (since you don't know) that god did it?
paulpizzey1973 2 months ago
@paulpizzey1973 Well i believe that you only have 3 options
1)the universe came from nothing
2)the universe came from an infinite regress
3)There was a prime cause which itself is infinite
Since i think most people would think something cant come from nothing, you only have the last two choice left. Either a regressive process with no intelligibility, or a Prime Cause that willed things into existence. I think the Prime Cause makes more sense(continued)
jamaicanification 2 months ago
@jamaicanification So where did god come from? What is his prime cause?
I'm sure you have heard of anti-matter, and of course matter. If the occurence of anti-matter in the universe equals that of matter, then technically the total mass of the universe is zero, and therefore technically equals nothing.
There are many other possibilities to investigate before we say "I give up, god must have done it."
paulpizzey1973 2 months ago
@paulpizzey1973 i know that. Thats why i said on the atheistic world view you either have something comes from nothing, or an infinite regress. If you look in a strictly naturalistic fashion, then yes your gonna end up with the conclusion that something comes from nothing. The problem is that is illogical because something can't come from nothing. It defies the laws of physics. And far from me giving up, im excited(continued)
jamaicanification 2 months ago
@jamaicanification It's fascinating to me that people like yourself say "something from nothing" is irrational and illogical, while in the same breath believing their god created the universe from nothing. Always ad moshing atheists for something they themselves believe. I think that's called Hypocrisy. Seem a very common thing in Christianity. Additionally, the Big Bang does not say something came from nothing. It proposes the universe started with a singularity, and that is a something.
Inclousid 1 month ago
@Inclousid The prevailing theory in science does not say something from nothing. That is a strawman argument. It is only the christians that say "something from nothing". AronRa has a great explanation on this.
ultim4t32 1 month ago
@ultim4t32 Exactly what I said, but thanks.
Inclousid 1 month ago
@ultim4t32 yeah, it does sound like I was disagreeing with you. I was intending to agree with you though, lol.
ultim4t32 1 month ago
@Inclousid I never said the big bang said that. I know it speaks about everything coming from a singularity. You guys are the ones that ad mosh christians all the time for believing in a God when the consequences of your 'lack of belief' is either that we came from an infinite regress, or that we came from nothing. An infinite regress of atoms, or coming from nothing seems less rational than believing in a designer. Your the ones pulling the insults. I just respond
jamaicanification 1 month ago
@jamaicanification You realize you can't say something from nothing is impossible when you think your God is something from nothing. Why does the evidence of Evolution seem less rational than wild assertions with no evidence in a 2,000 year old book? Please ANSWER THE QUESTION, and don't beat around the bush like every damn Christian. "He always was"..."How do you know?"...."The Bible says"....How do you know the Bible is the Word of God"...."The Bible says". Give me something
RobWRobins 1 month ago
@RobWRobins calm down tiger. Dont get your panties in a bunch. I never spoke a word against evolution. I accept the scientific evidence for Neo-Darwinian evolution, Abiogenesis, and the Big Bang. So lets clear that up. I believed that God willed the universe into existence. What im saying is that everything in life has an external cause that brings it into being. Nothing brings itself into being or else that is self contradictory(continued)
jamaicanification 1 month ago
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@jamaicanification "I believe that external Prime cause of the universe is God." So you're saying that God created what was before the Big Bang, and what he created before the Big Bang caused the Big Bang that created the universe? (Just trying to understand exactly what you mean by "Prime cause of the universe")
RobWRobins 1 month ago
@RobWRobins I believe that external Prime cause of the universe is God.
jamaicanification 1 month ago
@jamaicanification Could you expand on your completely contradictory statements? How can the "consequences" of a lack of belief in a god be that we came from nothing, when no scientific theory ever stated we came from nothing? You're repeating exactly the same thing. Putting words in others mouths and then calling them irrational for things they never said. Astounding. Your "designer" made the universe from nothing. How do you distinguish this as rational from scientific theory?
Inclousid 1 month ago
@Inclousid I never said that scientific theories say that we came from nothing. Im just saying the options philosophical are from what we've gathered so far that a) we came from nothing, b) the universe came from something, coming from something else(infinite regress) or c) an external prime cause. Im not holding to be. Im just saying thats an option, and i have heard many atheists such as Daniel Dennet say that is an option(continued)
jamaicanification 1 month ago
@jamaicanification And I would also like you to address the disconnect in your reasoning. If you cannot get something from nothing, as you keep presenting as an argument, then how did your god do it? And I would like a rational answer that does not resort to special pleading.
Inclousid 1 month ago
@Inclousid Plus you defined your position as having a lack of belief in God. That seems to be a form of negative atheism(which really is a sophisticated for of agnosticism repackaged) so what your really doing is appealing to an agnostic argument, which shifts the nature of the discussion
jamaicanification 1 month ago
@jamaicanification You certainly like to use buzz words to muddle things don't you. Atheism IS the lack of belief in a deity. What, under your misunderstanding, do you think it means? And we're not talking about philosophical arguments here, your claims step overtly into the realm of science. You claim your god is a real entity, and you claim it created the universe. These claims therefore must be addressed using factual critical analysis. (cont)
Inclousid 1 month ago
@Inclousid Firstly, go do some research on the different types of atheism because you yourself seem not to know. There is positive atheism(which asserts that there is no deity), and negative atheism which is just a form of non-theism that states they lack a belief in God because of a lack of evidence being presented. And my claim of god does not step into the scientific era. It is properly in the (continued)
jamaicanification 1 month ago
@jamaicanification Only religious people try to make this issue more complicated than it actually is, so bravo to you for pulling the party line. However there is only one meaning of Atheism, the non-belief in a deity.
And your claim does not step into the scientific arena? Great, so you're fully admitting that your god is just an idea and does not exist in reality? Sorry, but ideas can't create universes. That takes an existent being, according to your again contradictory, previous claim.
Inclousid 1 month ago
@Inclousid not really. If you go to the etymology of the word 'Atheism' it means one that asserts that there is no god. You've just redefined it to mean 'non-theism', to which i say that agnostics, apatheists, and a verificationists are all non-theists. Certain Animatists are even non-theists. As to my idea that God is an idea that does not exist in reality, i can easily refute this with the ontological argument(continued)
jamaicanification 1 month ago
@jamaicanification "If you go to the etymology of the word 'Atheism' it means one that asserts that there is no god."
Wrong again. Athiesm from the greek 'a' - without, + 'theos' - god. To make a positive assertion there is no god, is just as incorrect as making a positive assertion there is a god. There is only one premise atheism asserts. The theist claim "There is a god", the atheist rebut "I don't believe you". Any other assertions do not represent atheism.
Inclousid 1 month ago
@Inclousid
1)God is the greatest conceivable idea/thing that can be conceived of
2)God exists as an idea we reflect on
3)Something that exists both as an idea and in reality is greater than something that just exists as an idea
4)If god is just an idea, then he is not the greatest conceivable thing out there
5)Therefore God is an idea that also exist in reality
6)Therefore God exists
(continued)
jamaicanification 1 month ago
@Inclousid Now, to go into this a little further, god is the greatest conceivable idea out there because the standard definition of God or a Supreme Being is one that is perfect, omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, infinite and all knowing. Such a being, whether you think he exist or not is the greatest conceivable thing out there. Now, if he existed only in the mind then he would not be the greatest conceivable thing out there because he would be subject to the limited(continued)
jamaicanification 1 month ago
@jamaicanification As to your ontological argument, if it wasn't non-sequitor (which it is) and it made any sense whatsoever, why then your "proof" would have everyone concivnced there was a god wouldn't it? Truth is, its nonsence. You have to keep in mind that everyone who claims "I have irrefutable proof there is a god" fails to realize that if they actually did, we would all be beleiving in this Chritian god. We don't, ergo your "proof" is nothing of the sort.
Inclousid 1 month ago
@Inclousid I said that i can refute your argument. I didn't say i have 'irrefutable proof' of God's existence. And prove where the ontological argument doesn't make sense instead of just making an assertion
jamaicanification 1 month ago
@jamaicanification My argument is that you cannot show your god does exist in reality, and not only does your ontological argument fail to refute that, it is definately implying you have irrefutable proof your god exists. If you're going to debate your points, at least try to start and do it honestly.
"Something that exists both as an idea and in reality is greater than something that just exists as an idea"
Where in points 1 or 2 do you demonstrate existence in reality? Non-sequitor.
Inclousid 1 month ago
Zing.
AntidoteY 1 month ago
@Inclousid The statement "Something that exist both as an idea and in reality is better than something that exist as an idea" is just making a comparison. Points 1-2 doesn't have to demonstrate existence in reality because points 1-2 are just stating that God is the greatest conceivable thing and that he is something that we reflect on. And i am trying to deal with this as honestly as possible
jamaicanification 1 month ago
@jamaicanification A "thing" is an object. Your god is an idea. So once again, before you can call it a "thing", demonstrate that it is indeed a "thing".
Inclousid 1 month ago
@Inclousid Dont mean to cut you off, but did you hear about Christopher Hitchens dying? I really had hoped that he would recover from his condition. Even though im christian and i disagreed with a lot of his positions, i feel bad for him and his family.......:(
jamaicanification 1 month ago
@jamaicanification Hitchens’s was unfortunately one of the last proponents for Reason in this world. It terrifies me to know that 1.6 billion people in this world are actually looking forward to the demise of mankind with a glee that is quite simply breathtaking. We are striving to bring this world to annihilation under the guise of a self-fulfilling prophecy, and he was one among few who are trying to stop it. He will be sorely missed.
Inclousid 1 month ago 17
@Inclousid Lots of people say they look forward to death, but a lunatic with a gun could get most of them to verbally renounce their God if it meant a chance for them to continue living. Most of the apocalyptic talk is just that; talk.
titans091052 2 weeks ago 4
@Inclousid construct of our minds, and there is no way that that an infinite being can just exist as just as an idea in the mind of a finite, fallible being. Its like saying that number infinity is just an idea that exist in our mind. It certainly is something that we reflect on, but we can't fully fathom it because our minds are finite. Therefore its impossible for the number inifinte to just be contained as a construct of our minds(continued)
jamaicanification 1 month ago
@Inclousid Therefore the number infinity exists both as an idea and something in reality. The same thing applies to God.
jamaicanification 1 month ago
@Inclousid philosophical and religious arena, or as Stephen Jay Gould would call it the Non Overlapping Magesterium
jamaicanification 1 month ago
@paulpizzey1973 the new discoveries being made about the universe because it think its fascinating how god created it. Im also fascinated with things like string theory, parallel universe, and how the universe will end. These are natural questions i leave up to the scientists to figure out. It in no way diminishes my faith
jamaicanification 2 months ago
@jamaicanification There are more possibilities about the origin of matter and energy than the three you mention:
4) Matter and energy have always existed.
5) We have not yet evolved the capability to comprehend the origin.
6) Some have comprehended the origin correctly, but have chosen not to share the information.
7) Some of the total matter and energy have always existed, and the rest was created by a Creator
8) Some was created by each of two or more Creators.
9) We'll never know.
ndrthrdr1 2 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 yes, but those possibilities boil down to those 3. Alot of the ones your proposing are a spin on the infinite universe model i proposed. Saying matter and energy have always existed is just a more diluted form of that argument. The others you proposed are a diluted form of 'i dont know'. When explaining the development of something, i dont know is just stating your ignorance. You ignorance has no relevance to the possibilities(continued)
jamaicanification 2 months ago
@ndrthrdr1 because your just saying you dont know the possibilities out there
jamaicanification 2 months ago
@jamaicanification So what your saying that it all boils down to some self described messiah, a Galilean jewish rabbi jesus? Walked on water, changed water into wine, raised dead people, raised himself from being dead? You really need to see a shrink!
spareaxe 2 months ago
@spareaxe ??????I guess 99% of people who walked the planet needed to see a shrink because they were religious and nature selected you to launch an intellectual crusade hugh? Dont you feel so special? Are you gonna do some propitiation now just to thank mother nature for her benevolent kindness? Obviously im not saying it like that. your distorting my argument. Your the one who needs the medical assistant cause apparently you cant read
jamaicanification 2 months ago
@jamaicanification If you want I can recommend a shrink for you?
spareaxe 2 months ago
@spareaxe oh , and will you come with me? that'll be lovely. We can get the shrink to do a test run on you first, just ta make sure my procedure goes well. The shrink can fix some screws loose up there as part of the test run. Maybe he can find the irrational circuit in your brain that tells you everything come from nothing like a pop up book, and fix it up so you wont have irrational foundations for your advocacy of atheism. How does that sound :)?
jamaicanification 2 months ago
@jamaicanification It's medication time.
spareaxe 2 months ago
@spareaxe really. You sure you've taken yours? Im really worried about you. You think things can come from nothing. Thats like pullin a houdini on a massive scale. You sure your mentally stable? I could recommend a psychiatric institute for you to go to
jamaicanification 1 month ago
@jamaicanification You realize your God did something that's not "like pulling a Houdini" your God LITERALLY "pulled a Houdini" to create everything and you believe it. So let me recommend you some psychiatric institutes.
RobWRobins 1 month ago
@paulpizzey1973 Having said that i have no scientific proof of god's existence because science deals with the observable universe, and god is not part of the observable universe.....
jamaicanification 2 months ago
@paulpizzey1973 creator doesn't have to mean a 'being.' Think of erosion of a large boulder being shaped by water into the shape of, what looks like a car. It's 'creator' was a force of nature but if there is no water around that area anymore & no sign that there was, would you conclude that someone did it? Or would you go by evidences of other stones being shaped by natures forces of erosion, wind, sand, water... what have you. Just providing an example. Maybe things just ARE. Who knows?
allfitch84 2 months ago
By around 70 A.D some say at the Council of Jamnia, the Tanakh was finalized without the apocryphal books included inside of it, though the setuagint continued to be used by the Orthodox Church. So before Marcion, the canon of the old testament was already set. In terms of the New testament, there is evidence that Origen of Alexandria already recognized the 27 books of the New testament, though they were considered "canonized" formally(continued)
jamaicanification 3 months ago
of course god didn't say build this book. Any classical, educated christian knows that. And of course the process of building the biblical canon took years and years. Christians say the bible is the word of god written by men. So they were divinely inspired. But just a few notes. first, in terms of the old testament canon, you first had the Septuagint that includes the old testament apocrypha which was published under Ptolemy ii in the 3rd century BC(continued)
jamaicanification 3 months ago
@jamaicanification But Christians have no proof apart from ''It says so in the Bible''..
Vikramthewhite 2 months ago
@Vikramthewhite for certain miracles performed. Sure. For gods existence. Not really. There are many arguments that can be put forward for his existence. But there are many things in the bible that archaeologists at first didn;t think existed. Take the ancient hittites. People thought they were a fable until archaeological evidence proved that the Hittites existed
jamaicanification 2 months ago
why god is messed up
numbers 31 17- 31 18 (kill all boys and men and those who have laid nex to a man but keep the wemon who have not laid next to a man for yourself)
romans 31 6 (This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing)Hitler ws gov. official
1st Peter 2 18 (Slaves submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh) new international language
flamingacdc1 3 months ago
We can take this approach to anything. Therefore any opinion that anyone has on anything is invalid. Morals, Laws , Constitution, Koran, Bible, Upanishads by comity blah blah blah........like...duh, thats how the world works. All things are arrived at through this evolutionary process. Its all relative. Therefore we should take no stock in any of it. But surprize surprize.......they do and its all belief ;)
Twicebakedtaters 3 months ago
Great information on this video. I always wondered the same things, how was it put together, who originally wrote it, etc. And even though there's alot of contradictions in the bible, people who "interpret" the verses when mainly "judging" someone, contradict themselves in so many ways
norybevol 3 months ago
"My God is powerful and He is who helped us slay the pagans so Jews could take over their land"...Yeah...Why didn't God take over rich powerful Egypt or Assyria?
"Well, the Jews did some sinning for a time and God made them weak for a while and they couldn't take over the whole area. Yep...I made a lot of money in the stocks and God is Great...I then lost a lot of money in my stocks and I must have been weak and sinned..............
baldone46 3 months ago
in the bible i have theres like 60 pages before genesis thats just history and shit about the bible. I discovered there have been like 30 translations of the bible, just think about how far away it is from its original meaning. Id bet there is no resembelance to the 'word of god' if there ever was such a thing
helvet666 3 months ago
bible sucks
chrismstrshk 3 months ago
well it could be the word of god. but that would be the greatest disappointment in the history of disappointments.
topperheartramada 3 months ago
I remember when I was 6 and I jumped on the whole "My dad is stronger than your dad!" phase... Some people never grow out of that phase; they only replace the word "Dad" with "God"...
kalajel 4 months ago 14
@kalajel
I remember the phrase '' MY DAD CAN BEAT UP YOUR DAD! '' and my reply would be
'' OH REALLY? HOW MUCH? ''
kansaimagic 2 months ago
@veroinuyasha That is not a valid argument. You cannot prove the necessity of a god.
GrayHatLinux 4 months ago
Matt Dillahunty is my god.
perrin6 4 months ago 4
thank you!!
dahlusion 4 months ago
What a great channel! I only watched 3 videos so far and they've all been top notch. Bravo!
arthur78 4 months ago 3
I've been an atheist for most of my life, but I LOVE learning about stuff like this.
Zentz29 4 months ago
Wow, 100,000+ views for an Atheist Experience video. You're doing a great job on educating people on religion!
tuck5649 5 months ago 51
@tuck5649 It needs to be in the millions.
TheBiAtheist 4 months ago
...her preacher didn't know this? What the hell kind of preacher is that?
IoEstasCedonta 5 months ago
Their just disproving the BIBLE. How about ISLAM or another religion that believes in God.
straitleanin 5 months ago
@straitleanin In my opinion, I think it's because the majority of calls are from fundamentalist christians.
ShotzMaster117 5 months ago
@straitleanin They're in Texas. It's not Muslims who are going around trying to get evolution out of the curriculum there. I'm sure they've touched on Islam plenty of times, though...
IoEstasCedonta 5 months ago
@IoEstasCedonta Many Islamics are fine evolution, so are Jewish, Buddhist, and Hindus; as a matter of fact many Christians are also. The only ignorant group is the type of people think Earth is 6-10 thousand years old.
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
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Lots of confused, misleading discussion in this rant. Since most of you deny the existence of God anyway, why now attempt to malign Him with unjustly condemning pple.Isn't this exactly what one might expect from intolerance- always omit the salient facts of His justice, mercy and purity. God will certainly judge righteously; faith says pple will get what they deserve.YES, the likes of rapists, murderers,thieves, slave-traders,robbers,greedy hypocrites,etc.. will go to Hell-but pple choose HELL
shieldsff 5 months ago
The bible says there are 2 species of man the Son's of God (Fallen angels that are our world leaders) and the Children of Israel (gods from Pleroma... the slave race) This guy above is a Son of God... you are a Child of Israel... all religions since 8th century AD are b/s... There is a reason why you are being mislead ...It is explained in the Apocryphon of John (Secret teachings of Jesus) go to: Unibooks.com "2012 Secrets and Mystery" Learn why you are here and why you are lied to.
SethJesusSatan 5 months ago
@SethJesusSatan ...I don't know about you, but I'm not a Child of Israel.
8th century? So what, Islam's not BS?
IoEstasCedonta 5 months ago
@IoEstasCedonta Yes you are right you are a child of Israel and the man above in the picture is a son of god. Look to the roots of your religion and learn how things have changed... The Ancient Mayans had it right the children were tricked and trapped here. Did you ever wonder why the united nations has a snake crawling up a staff, American medical, pharmaceutical, American press... the snake represents the god they worship. The Egyptain God Geb is the father of snakes.. his son is Seth (God)
SethJesusSatan 5 months ago
@IoEstasCedonta Did you know that Richard Nixon said the moon landing was faked? It was released in French media but the American media never said a thing.. the reason why the moon landing was faked is because it is not possible... everything we know about space is a lie... they faked it to increase atheism... In fact everything they've taught us is a lie.
SethJesusSatan 5 months ago
@SethJesusSatan Richard Nixon also said he was not a crook. But yea we know how that goes. Even if it was a lie or not that we landed on the moon, it was justified at the time, since we wanted to win the space-race against Russia. Regardless we have landed on the moon several times before, no matter when, we still have. Even if people with conspiracy theories try to prove other wise.
Do you know of the Mars Rover? We have seen Mars. And we are able to create life there if we land personally.
Raziel354 5 months ago
@Raziel354 It wasn't to win the space race with Russia... the cold war was a scam to keep people living in fear... the moon was faked to fool you... to make gods seem like they don't exist... Aleister Crowley, Albert Pike, former illuminati members and the bible refer to the stars as gods (Deuteronomy 4:19) Crowley calls the stars god heads. No spacecraft ever landed on Mars or Jupiter; we’ve been lied to. We live in an imitation parallel universe to Pleroma.
SethJesusSatan 5 months ago
@SethJesusSatan Are listening to yourself? Everything you have said so sound like conspiracy theories. To keep people living in fear? Religion and their depiction of the underworld are what keep people in fear. Fear to question things just because they think they will obtain eternal torture instead. Which btw, I have not read any where in the Bible the description of hell that we have today. So I am not sure where you Bible fanatics are getting your info, but I am positive is not from the Bible.
Raziel354 5 months ago
@Raziel354 I've studied the Apocryphon of John Egyptian Mythology, Hinduism, Mayans, Gnosticism and the occult. They all speak of the same events that didn’t make it to today’s religions. Albert Pike predicted all 3 world wars and their outcome correctly in 1871... Aleister Crowley had sex with hookers trying to give birth to the anti-christ.. pauline pierce had his daughter .. she was related to our 14th president.. she is the grandmother of George W Bush
SethJesusSatan 5 months ago
@Raziel354 Nostradomus said the anti-christ name is Bush-Ohama... Crowley wasn't the father of the great beast ..but granddad... In skull and bones Bush's fraturnity name was temporary... Temporary what? do you know? ... Also it is believe that skull and bones a Yale university frat house runs the CIA ... believe it!
SethJesusSatan 5 months ago
@SethJesusSatan He said the name of the Anti-Christ was MABUS, I have never herd of this Bush-Ohama. Second of all the depiction of the Anti-Christ in the Bible is that of a beast of several feet tall, no where is it described as looking human at all. Albert Pike was a mason, so is G.Bush and any one that has power in our society. So what? They are always saying a lot of things, and so are the people saying about them. Where is the proof? Many things said never came true.
Raziel354 5 months ago
@Raziel354 I apologize, I got my information from a Nostradamus scholar in the History Channel’s “Lost book of Nostradamus” Bush-Shama was the name he said… too bad they didn’t interview you; they would have gotten their information right! What wouldn’t they pay you enough? …Either I’m crazy with overwhelming proof or you’re a naïve idiot that thinks he knows it all… I pieced together a puzzle and it all adds up to logic! Go to a party and debate with someone that is drunk
SethJesusSatan 5 months ago
@SethJesusSatan "Nostradomus said the anti-christ name is Bush-Ohama.">>> That is hands down the dumbest thing I've heard yet today. I admit that I am not up on all the rambling, incoherent and vague nonsense penned be the Nostro-man. I would be happy to be proven wrong here. Still, I will go out on a limb and guess that the actual passage that you are referring to does not contain anything close to "Bush-Ohama" (sic?)... Believe it? Laugh at it, maybe.
rrpostalagain 4 months ago
@rrpostalagain It was bush-shamma watch the video on youtube the lost book of Nostradamus... History channel movie... also explain why albert pike correctly predicted the 3 world wars, there reason for being and their outcome in 1871 (he's been perfect so far) ... explain the world trade center falling when you fold our money into airplanes.... explain why our money has occult symbols all over it ... explain to me why a can of monster energy drink has 666 on it in Hebrew.. I know why; wake up!
SethJesusSatan 4 months ago
@IoEstasCedonta Islam is BS, the Koran calls the world flat just like the bible, it's creator was a pedophile and a misogynistic imperialist. The Koran used the immorality of the bible as inspiration as well as the so called pure ideals in it inflating both causing even greater contradictions than the bible. Sexist rabble is BS and quite ignorant, please read your Koran!
Vottaro 5 months ago
@IoEstasCedonta I thought you would respond.. we are all children of Plemora (Called in the Bible children of Isreal) and the others are Nephilim (Called in the Bible the Son's of God) The children are the ones that kill each other in wars, die of starvation and are enslaved.. Son's of God are the world leaders, powerful people and celebrities ...people of renown, you can tell who they are by the crowds cheering for them...
SethJesusSatan 4 months ago
@IoEstasCedonta Did you know before the Muslim religion was started Mohammed was know as Mohammad the slaughterer ... he would convert people to his religion with his sword... also it says that he spent an abundant time with God.... God in both religions is Seth look him up in Egyptian Mythology they depict him correctly... you will find similarities to what you know as being god... sorry to tell you but I'm right, Open your eyes to the truth because they have done their best to sew them shut!
SethJesusSatan 4 months ago
@IoEstasCedonta Excuse me that is Children of Pleroma
SethJesusSatan 4 months ago
Christians do not want to limit anyone's human rights or personal dignity. On the contrary, Christians want to see the social advance and well being of our society and more than anything wants to see all people come to a perfect understanding of self and freedom from any manner of spiritual bondage by the knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. who is above everything else in creation
shieldsff 5 months ago
@shieldsff Submit to his noodliesness!!!!!!
ThatFuckingAtheist 5 months ago
my bad, allow me to elaborate, subsumed in the notion of hating God (of the Bible) is the denial and willful ignorance of His existence. Now this can get rather complicated, because there is a faith- position stating, in reality, you don't reality deny His existence even though "consciously you try to. This actually involves an important basis for faith in God- the idea that he 'deposits' an residual knowledge of himself in the mind of men. The hatred is 'revealed' when this is suppressed
shieldsff 5 months ago
Srsly, it never occured to me that the whole bible is word of god. I can't believe that there is someone that stupid like the woman who actually believes that nonsense.
EnLugal 5 months ago
This video proves that Americans are stupid.
EnLugal 5 months ago
@EnLugal not all of us are. judgmental much?
hyrdogin 5 months ago
@hyrdogin That's true. Not all. :D
EnLugal 5 months ago
@EnLugal i mean...you have to admit nasa is a little smart
hyrdogin 5 months ago
@hyrdogin I'm talking about the ordinary Americans here
EnLugal 5 months ago
@EnLugal well the normal human is stupid...
hyrdogin 5 months ago
@hyrdogin Normal human is normally intelligent. Americans are stupid.
EnLugal 5 months ago
@EnLugal well im guessing you don't live in america so you wouldn't be saying this. and if you dont live in america how the fuck would you know? oh yeah, basing it off random youtube videos!!! youre probably just a kid, but youre going to deny it
hyrdogin 5 months ago
@hyrdogin I lived in USA for 1 year, so I know what I'm talking about.
EnLugal 5 months ago
@EnLugal OH WOW!!!! 1 YEAR!!! you must know enough then to say ALL AMERICANS ARE STUPID. IDIOT.
hyrdogin 5 months ago
@hyrdogin Yes, I can conclusively say that.
EnLugal 5 months ago
@EnLugal The entire world is stupid, and you should've drawn this conclusion a long time ago, since you've been in this world more or less consciously for about 20 years.
Quartrez 5 months ago
@Quartrez Nope. I am 100% sure that Americans are more stupid than Europeans.
EnLugal 5 months ago
@EnLugal Eh, that is highly stereotypical and unscientific.
Quartrez 5 months ago
@EnLugal The simple fact that you think that proves you wrong.
Quartrez 5 months ago
@Quartrez But it's not only my opinion, this is a generally known fact.
EnLugal 5 months ago
@EnLugal Well, you're among the more stupid people in Europe, and you pretty much go on par with stupid people in America. Stupidity has very little to do with nationality, but since you don't know better, you think it does.
Quartrez 5 months ago
@Quartrez Stupidity has much to do with a) education b) race. And because in USA you have the worst public school system in the developed world and you have a lot of ethnic minorities, it's logical that Americans are dumb. Only a dumb person can say that stupidity has a little to do with nationality, because every country and every nation dffers in development, average intelligence and education.
EnLugal 5 months ago
@EnLugal You're confusing "stupidity" and "lack of education", buddy. If you think they're both the same, you're dead wrong.
Quartrez 5 months ago
@EnLugal Then how comes even if two persons of the same race (race doesn't have anything to do with stupidity, get out of here) are in the same classes, and the same school, one is smarter than the other ? Hmmm ?
Quartrez 5 months ago
@Quartrez What kind of question is that? Obviously the one was born smarter than the other. But blacks and other minorities (except Asians) are in average more dumb than whites. Average is the keyword here. Also google something about the bell curve.
EnLugal 5 months ago
The woman from Texas running for governor when asked about bilingual education said "if English was good enough for Jesus is good enough for me"
Evolvedprimate 5 months ago 38
@Evolvedprimate i laughed so hard at this, classic.thats 'edukashun' for you.
bearwoodcarpentry 4 months ago
@bearwoodcarpentry , Actually I'm not laughing at the woman, she probably knows all about Jesus and the English language, she also knows that she is taking to people educated Texas style and tells them what they like to hear, so this doesn't expose ONE idiot.
Evolvedprimate 4 months ago
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@Evolvedprimate "The woman from Texas running for governor when asked about bilingual education said "if English was good enough for Jesus is good enough for me""
That's a funny story, but apparently it is just an urban legend no politician actually said that..
ornitorrinco01 3 months ago