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  • NO I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE A MORMON! I'M TIRED OF YOUR ADVERTISEMENTS!

  • Personally I enjoy the discussion of how it has changed your lives individually, and spiritually. I'm sure this might have already been asked but will it be the same people each time?

    These discussions are a necessary resource for people to be able to access on youtube. However it'd be great to get more people's views, maybe some contrary views as well get some more critical debate going?

    Thanks anyway this was great gonna roll another J n watch the second one :D

    Peace.

  • interesting discussion.

    it's such a shame that the language used by a lot of trippers is so alien to a lot of institutional authorities. I mean I get why but it all sounds so esoteric and it's unfortunate to hear talk of certain people's diets requiring entheogens and the proselytizing nature of a lot of the religious nuts.

    Lot of respect for this discussion though, it has a lot of valid ideas.

  • I've just discovered that what I said about MDMA in the video is a popular misconception. In fact, it was NEVER marketed as a diet pill. I found that out at (where else?) NeuroSoup. This is almost the address. neurosoup [dot] com [slash] pdf [slash] mdma_history_merck [dot] pdf

  • WOW you look good in a hat ! Thanks I think you are doing a good job.

  • "So, as a result of that, I've taken it several times myself" ahaha :DD

  • OMG this is cool! :D

  • Thx

  • This special at the roundtable is so tasty I would love to see it on the neurosoup menu again. Wonderful ingredients make for a delicious meal - serve us up some more sometime please.

  • A thought, try next time when it's all working with the image to put in some pictures of what you guys are talking about when you do. :)

    So we get some more depth so to say.

    Awesome show btw!

  • yesss..connecting with hundreds or thousands of people and then everyone goes back home to their comedowns and their problems with a flash image forever burned in their brain of those anonymous faces. IMO it's fake, momentary bliss, pissed on by reality after the fact.

  • BLANKET!

  • I can't hear any of the questions but WOW I love your pic Krystle!! Woo Hoo I can't get over what a hottie you are! You've really found your look, Sweetie!

  • Been watching for a few years, Love you stuff!

  • I can`t help but feel sorry for you guys. You have experienced something angelic, and talk about it constantly, and do not know that monotheism is the way to closeness to the divine you are talking about.

    GOD IS ONE, is the beginning. And that must not be associated with the universe, or evil spirits (satan), or any of creation.

  • @ParadoxEternal You are weird

  • @eilier I am starting to realize that pantheists are impossible to talk to. And that probably goes for psychedelics users aswell, so I am loosing interest in that. What IS weird though, is that psychedelics users make claims about spirituality, and then goes back to a non-spiritual way of life. I DO have experience gnosis (not the psychedelic kind), and there seems to be a great deal of difference. You just don`t go back to "your old ways" after gnosis. This must be some kind of pseudo.

  • @ParadoxEternal I don't claim to be spiritual, you do, after reading a stupid old book

  • Great balance of perspectives concerning spirituality and art, nature and reality, philosophy and law, as well as some potential negatives from overuse. It's easy for some to understate any risks associated with the broad term 'psychedelics'; they are all substances that deserve the utmost respect, with varied wide-ranging effects in some people. All persons have a unique biochemistry and life history and psychedelics come in all shapes and sizes too; be respectful to yourself and to others.

  • Mexican SONORAN TOAD!!!

  • @eilier Bufo Alavarius...something like that. that is the medical/scientific name i believe. 5 methoxy DMT is in its neck glands

  • @ssssaintmarcus My life changed after that, I feel better, I can't explain why

  • Hey krystal what do I have to do to be a part of these discussions? I feel like I could add some worthy insight.

  • your all amazing people :)

  • I'm sorry if this question has already been answered somewhere but how frequent will these discussions be?

  • @MegaBunnay Not sure, maybe every couple weeks or so.

  • @NeuroSoup Will it be with the same people or different every time?

  • It expands your mind M'kay

  • i've just eaten 6 mince pies and feel ill

  • Sanity, thy name is cannabis.

  • bud kinda reminds me of hst! besides that, i don't think that there is a great masterplan/conspiracy behind those stupid drug laws. it's just not the right time for a completely open drug law. most people still don't even know what those legal drugs (alc, tabaco, coffee etc.) actually mean...

  • @fraggle001 What do they actually mean, in your opinion?

  • @luckyodeler well i can't say it for all the different legal drugs that exist... ;) all i am saying is that there should more common education (a new school subject) on ALL the drugs/substances. later you can talk about legalization.

  • @fraggle001 I would have to say that I agree, because people have a lot of misconceptions about drugs, usually that they are all the same and all bad. But when you look into it, there is every shade of gray and color in there. The anti-drug campaigns are the same as the abstinence campaigns: they seek to limit information, instead of spread honest and open knowledge, which is what us internet users are accustomed to. ....

  • @luckyodeler exactly. word!!!

  • this is great if only these people could be in politics

  • After only 4 psilocybin experiences i was finally inspired to get started on getting a natural sciences degree :D intend to lead it onto an astro-physics degree :D no other experiences of my entire life have been so inspirational and insightful! xXx

  • i dig everyone and I comprehend all this and listened for an hour+ but can't vocally contribute here because i'm too in love with Krystle ooops

  • A good way to open such discussions to a wider audience. Interesting group of people.

  • damn i was going to be a part of this discussion..

  • the oneness is also in some religions and in the shamanic path.....that leads to community and peace, that I get. but I see young people with potential could get lost in the wonderland.....instead of doing outward WORK.....inward work is important and self acceptance but instead of finding yourself, find the rent.....be well.

  • the handsome older gent is on BAIL.....wake up this stuff is not legal to do, people...but yoga man has the right idea, there is a slow road called yoga and it works....but it is the right hand path not the left hand path...so try yoga or an occult lodge instead....breathe, draw the your other hand. be well.

  • @thepixieful Do you think that ways other than yoga should be allowed though? You're right though, you can achieve results from plenty of legal things, substance or non-substance... What are your experiences with yoga/with entheogens, if you would like to share?

  • love the hat.

  • ah greatfully appreciated ! keep doing your thing! ;]]]

  • lol male female alchemy

  • toilet flushing at 58:18

  • @dec2 good find, thumbed up.

  • @dec2 5:33, someone opens a can......

  • My new blog is at bud-oracle.blogspot.com. I can't get into the old one again for some reason. the new one has the dash between bud and oracle. This was a very enjoyable conversation for me. I wish to thank krystle again for inviting me.

  • Your hat is really cool :O

  • Thanks for doing this, Krystle

  • @papaown dumbass. Read the court documents on her site. It wasnt her it was Skinner who did. She pleaded the 5th. God -_-

  • She's a fucking rat. Her testimony put an LSD manufacturer in jail on a life sentence. I hope this bitch dies.

  • @papaown it was Skinner not her...get your shit straight before you start name calling...

  • If you can't hear everyone. Check that you have a signal in your RIGHT SPEAKER.

  • Hey Krystal cool idea, I was wondering if you could leave links to your guests blogs in the description?

    Thanks and peace.

  • I can only hear you krystle. Thats too bad

  • That dick keep talking bout himself and weed omg shut the fuck up mr canada 

  • This is so fucking cool omg this is the shit.

  • why can't I hear other people??I can only hear krystie... :o ?

  • Psychedelics are God's way of giving us the gift of consciousness. However don't consider it to be an objective way to obtain answers, it's more something that allows one to think outside the box we are kept in. Psychedelics are destined to contribute philosophic-spiritual meaning and help us escape from the dead-end of our culture's rationalist-mechanistic paradigm. Nice hat! =)

  • wow you look hot in that picture , not relevant i know but hey :)

  • Have you read Many Lives Many Masters by Dr Brian Weiss? It really fills in all the spiritual gaps I had while doing psychedelics. The many questions we ask while tripping or having spiritual experiences. I actually did 110mg of DMT a day after I read the book, and got many many questions answered by my spirit guides. I actually had real questions in mind, but didn't get them answered verbally, I got an upload into my mind, very powerful and emotional. It's a spiritualist' bible. 

  • @prince0427 Interesting. I have only had small amounts of DMT, enough to make me giddy. I was introduced to the idea of asking spirit guides questions several years ago, and I still do it today as a meditation practice option without drugs. Last time no one would speak to me, and I think the answer was in the pack I was carrying.

  • @luckyodeler I've learned you always get an answer if you have a proper question. I've also been starting to meditate. I actually got the message not to use DMT anymore until it's time again. I still have 240mg left and Im saving it cause in the future someone is going to be asking me for it and I must save it for that person. Just my intuition after I came back.

  • @prince0427 I'll definitely start putting some more work into formulating the right questions! It's interesting that you got the message not to do it again for a while, because I've gotten the message that I need to use something. It didn't occur to me that they could go both ways on that question. I agree with them that I would benefit from whatever can make that happen for me, because my brain is really solid right now.

  • @luckyodeler Yea I know that the right question can only come through experience, and if you should go there without a proper question, you might even upset your guides a bit, cause they'll tell you something like "All the questions you seek are already there to be found, come back only when you have the right questions, they'll give you a nice light show and you'll be back on your way".

  • @luckyodeler The right question is one that's been bothering you for a while, loss of sleep cause you can't get over it. Read Many Lives, Many Masters. The spirit masters gave us all the answers in there, that I'm certain of. If after that you still have a question, then you pm me and I can help. My question was simple, I had to verify the contents of book, and it was certainly answered. so that's QED for me.

  • @prince0427 I'll have to get that book I can get afraid that they won't answer me, so I'll ask something less direct like, "Can you help me?" The answer was either help yourself or take this more seriously. :-P Thanks for your help! :-D

  • @prince0427 Do you know what I mean by solid?

  • @luckyodeler I'm also smoking much less cannabis now then before, and not cause I think its bad for my health, but I've been losing alot of REM sleep and not being able to remember my dreams. I had a period where I felt I hadn't dreamt anything for months. Now I meditate before I sleep and ask my guides to show me the right direction for the best learning experiences, and my dreams are almost vivid now, I speak through telepathy in my dreams now which is something the soul does.

  • @prince0427 I used to smoke weed, and I had a lot of vivid dreams, but because it was illegal, I had a lot of dreams about the police being after me. That has lessened over time. I meditate before bed pretty much every night so it's cool that you have a similar routine.

  • @prince0427 I kept a dream diary once for a few months, and I started to have long and vivid dreams as a result, but only for the first month and then it tapered off. It was interesting to see the recurring themes. I bought a Zeo sleep monitor for my brother, but used it for myself for a short time, and it really changed my whole perspective on sleep.

  • @luckyodeler Yea I've asked all my cannabis friendly friends about their dreams and none reported any loss, even some would agree with you that theirs became more vivid. But after researching online a couple of months ago I came across an article online that mentioned the loss of REM sleep when smoking too much cannabis. And I grow weed, so you can imagine my smoking habit. As soon as I cut off for 3 days I begun having those telepathy dreams, where I read minds do telepathy

  • @prince0427 That's really cool about the telepathy. I watched a show about a telepathy in dreams scientific anomaly, where people could actually dream what another person was thinking. I wish I knew if it was real and not just a show, and whether there was anything indicating that it was a hoax, but I didn't look into it that far. At any rate, I've had some crazy dream experiences, maybe not as much telepathy as information about what I should do, and I try to follow those if it won't hurt me.

  • @luckyodeler Hm I had no idea that telepathy dreams are rare.. I've for certain never had one before these last ones, and its really amazing. At first I was playing around sending thoughts into these 3 unknown beautiful women infront of me. "Hey, I'm talking to your mind" and I saw their eyes open in shock, then I was sending the Heys to a woman walking across in another building, she stopped and was looking around, asking a girl next to her did you hear that? that's the vivid one.

  • @prince0427 There was this guy in middle school I had dreams about, and after I would dream, he would randomly sit by me or talk to me. I had a huge crush on him at the time, and so I would just turn beet red and put my face down. In high school, we got lost in Mexico, and I ended up on an aztec pyramid with him, like in my dreams. Never in my life would I have guessed that could happen. But I was too scared and didn't take any opportunities, would have been good but heartbreak in the end.

  • @luckyodeler He's your soulmate. You were destined to see him again in mexico, but you acted the wrong way. We all have a or many destined paths in live, but it's up to us to make the right choice at that time. So free will is involved within destiny. I've had similar case where I met one of my soulmates and she chose it wasn't the time. I'm pretty sure we'll meet again, cause through my meditations I've been brought back to that day and how special that meeting was, however short.

  • @prince0427 The way I see it, he was my soulmate up to that week. The last day of that trip, it was too late and I had made a choice... And he changed, and the world changed, and he was no longer my soulmate. I kow that's a depressing reality, but I can't go back and fix it now, I've tried. I have no idea what's in store for me now, but fortunately I've had plenty of serendipity since then so I don't feel like it ruined my life or anything. :-)

  • @luckyodeler No you're wrong, we have many soulmates. The word soulmate typically applies to the person you will spend the rest of your life with. But soulmates are actually the people we learn the most from. And typically one has around 15 soulmates, and up btw 3-5 they'll continue to come back with to this physical plane. When we meet a soulmate it'll feel like you met a soulmate, we won't forget that meeting or that person for as long as you live, but you will also learn the most

  • @prince0427 I agree.

  • @luckyodeler from that meeting. Now if it's our destiny to meet again, we will! So if you feel that person has changed for whatever reason, and your intuition is telling you to help him in whatever way, and it shouldn't be something sexually or that type of nature. The best help is given through teachings and lessons you've learned. You might help the person even better then you've ever imagined or anticipated. Don't let fear of change keep you from your destiny.

  • @prince0427 Well, there is a lot to be said. If you ever find happiness, grab it and don't let it go. I have to run pretty fast to keep up with him. I have to somehow evolve to be better at everything I do in order to be able give him things for the short period of time we may have together, and in order to elongate that time. I just can't let him down.

  • @luckyodeler Maybe you won't have to keep up with him at all, maybe he'll slow down to your tempo if it feels right. The person you are is your choice, and you chose who you were going to become before you were born. Why you chose a specific body has to do with the lessons you'll learn from that physical form. The lessons we all need to learn and overcome. You'll learn alot in your lifetime, patience is one that many of us still need to learn, but it's all about practice.

  • @prince0427 That's really cool that the girl got your message. There is something similar going on in my life that I can't quite explain so I'll just butcher it. There is a gay guy in my class, and somehow we communicate on this extremely deeply healing level that gifts and ignites both of us, it is intellectual, emotional, spiritual, platonic... I'm so glad both of us are out of the question for the other fundamentally. All I want to do is keep giving, though.

  • @luckyodeler Well it seems to me you're on the right path, life is all about learning, and through communication our species learn the best. So if we feel you're in frequency with this person, and your intuition (which is just our soul guides talking to us) is telling you to continue what you're doing, then it's the right path. The worst thing you could do is turn away in fear for whatever reason, especially if it feels right.

  • @prince0427 Thanks :-) Sometimes it's hard to share this stuff because you never know if somebody's going to hurt you, but you have been nice to me so I appreciate that! Likewise, you seem to be on the right path, so enjoy it and trust your intuition. :-)

  • @luckyodeler Thanks, go read the book, the answers you seek are probably in there, and you might also want to read Journey of Souls from Micheal Newton after you're done with Many Lives Many Masters. What I've told you it felt right and I think the words came from a higher source, if you believe in that, it's up to you.

    Good luck

  • @prince0427 Thaks. :-) BEst of luck on your spiritual journey.

  • @luckyodeler and journey in general.

  • @prince0427 I had a dream at one point that it was snowing, and I had to go up to the bridge and look down at the lake. Basic dream, but I felt like I really needed to do that. So after work, even though there was a snowstorm taking effect, I walked up to the bridge and stared down at the park, and screamed, "Why did you take me here?" So of course I was looking for a reason.

  • @prince0427 On my way home, a car in front of me turned to drive up a road, but was on the wrong side of the divider because of the heavy snow. I layed on the horn. I was still trying to figure out why I had to go to the bridge, but it made me leave in just the right amount of time to be behind this car, and get them to turn around before they met their doom.

  • The Gov dosnt like us taking Psychedelics cuz it makes u awhere that alot of our laws are stupid, out dated, and close minded

  • @LysurgicAcid I think it's because they're afraid in general, not because they're afraid you'll stop being oppressed. They are afraid that if they speak up, they will lose their political office, or be ridiculed. They are elected by the population, and the population at large is afraid of the unfamiliar drugs, and lumps them in with crack and heroin.

  • woot been waitting for this vid :)

  • You should post links to the peoples blogs and stuff. in the description.

  • I haven't watched this yet, but while I have no doubt that entheogens can show you other aspects of reality, most of us have no idea how to interpret them. Given that psychos like Manson were into psychedelics, I don't see them as being all touchy feely-- they may be morally neutral, but I don't see them as a priority in the world today, when I think we're being conned into slavery, and that our best hope is to research what's going on in in the dimensions we all understand.

  • @gerontodon I definitely agree that they're morally neutral. They can be used for bad or good. I feel like conned into slavery is a good way to explain what happens in a lot of the workforce today. The way I am interpreting what you're saying, you think it's more important to be independent enough to survive without the corporate world to a degree, and that is more important than opening your mind to other realms, in which you might forget or not focus on the problem of slavery?

  • @luckyodeler

    I meant that we're being slowly coerced into a more outright form of total slavery-- what's left of us are even meant to become brain-chipped, genetically modified golems eventually. Whatever entities we encounter on trips might well be on board with this agenda, or they may at least be unconcerned about it. If so, if we're not very politically clued up, we're not in a position to become enlightened whilst in any more esoteric places, just enjoyably spellbound at most.

  • @luckyodeler

    Of course the premise that I based my conclusion on is a bit of a strong statement, but I'm 99.99% sure that there *is* an agenda to subjugate (and I'd say desecrate) most of the human race. Since I also believe that the perps are no strangers to the occult, and quite happy for the victims to also be bedazzled by esotericism, I conclude that tripping out is unlikely to be a panacea-- especially when more dry and prosaic research can yield tangible, tho grim, answers.

  • entheogens teach wisdom

  • This was very interesting. I liked the contribution from the woman from Israel. All you hear on the news is another bomb blast or about the settlements. So, it's quite eye opening to learn that there are people there who have lives, and how they go about them. And I liked the conversation on entheogens. Very thoughtful.

  • I think psychedelics should be decriminalized for the most part, but if they were made legal and available on shelves I would be afraid that some people who don't need to trip will think it's ok to trip simply because it is legal. I feel some people can't handle tripping, people with major anxiety may almost always have a bad experience on psychedelics. If it's illegal then you most likely have done your research on them and know what you are getting yourself into.

  • @TehNevs I guess this makes sense, but there are a lot of other issues, like illegal things can be contaminated or adulterated with other chemicals that you didn't want, and it can be violent just because of the threat of getting caught. Also, people can have long prison sentences and criminal records for the sale of something most of us reading this agree is fine.

  • krystie you are so cute I can not begin to explain as a leader of your crowd. great video! you should do more of these one becouse you are great at leading your troops.too cute

  • ha ha you are one colorfull bunch. I see you have a superhero there too! : )

    Krystie and her bunch! ha ha just joking

  • fucking hippies

  • am I the only one who doesnt know how many times they've tripped?

  • i wana learn to meditate but i think im allready there.....

  • OHH MAN are those BUDZ

  • I agree with using psychedelics for awakening yourself but do not let them consume you. It will just be another attachment, and its only there to help you but ultimately you must help yourself.

  • @RICARDOLOCO13 fucking aye!!!

  • No offence but this sucked.

  • I agree with almost all of this!!

  • i love this idea .. congratulations on the evolutions ..

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  • @TheWildflower1974 Peyote*

  • ily u peoples :D

  • Where did you get the fuzzy hat at?  I love it!

  • You look sexy with that fuzzy hat

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  • Isn't the religion you guys are talking about shamanism?

  • @01greenbud Shamanism is not a religion.

  • @HeadFullaFuzz That depends how you define religion, the spiritual use of psychedelic plants fits my definition. 

  • @01greenbud That is a part of my religion/spiritual connection :D

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  • @HeadFullaFuzz actually it is.......from an anthropological perspective it IS....that is valid research on line, look that stuff up rather than this stuff. be well, beat your drum...help community, wear clothes you create.

  • @HeadFullaFuzz It is a lifestyle :D

  • Well that's an interesting crowd...

  • Not using substances is yogic? I suggest you reassess your understanding. That's not true. Cannabis is a SACRAMENT of one of the most powerful (and still observed traditions) during Shiva celebrations, even today. Check yo self before you wreck yo self, little miss counselor.

  • try and fix the audio next time too, it only plays out of one ear, cool idea tho

  • this is really cool hopefully the video works next time!

  • yes. awesome format for your show and on this topic

  • bobies!

  • (I'll watch this later, but here is something that is bothering me) I discovered through LSD that indeed everything is essentially infinite, and I don't like it. The idea of everything going on and on and on in cycles bothers me a whole lot.. has anyone else experienced this uncomfortable awareness of the infinite? On mushrooms I realized that I was looking out into myself.. my grandpa died recently and I knew he was just a part of the cycle.. but there was serene bliss. I want that again.

  • @Tengent 'There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way.' ~Buddha

    From my experiences, there is no 'location' of serenity inside the self. The pacification or slowing down of the thoughts or to see the mind as a filter. The build-up residue of the mind/judgements/beLIEfS/etc., must be cleansed in order to be, as you truly are already.

    The journey from this state into another is remarkable, as we've seen no lack of variety...so yes, though things are cyclical there are myriads. ^^_^^

  • @Tengent Only 3 Actions Can be Taken:

    1~ Acceptance of the situation(s) as it/they are

    2~ Change the situation(s) into beneficient circumstances

    3~ Leave the situation(s)--Cosmologically impossible, usually results in procrastination.

    I have bouts with Nihilism or meaninglessness, yet I find that phrases really assist me in understanding difficult concepts. Theory of Relativity partially states that nothing in the universe has any meaning except that which you give to it.Unleash ur burden

  • @Tengent Your just truly uninformed and still operating through your ego structure. Let go of yourself, it doesn't exist.

  • @laqtor It's ironic. Alan Watts got me thinking about samsara. I knew that if I killed myself (something I'd rather not do since I really do enjoy life), that would not "solve" anything as I know I will reawaken in a new form. But, there's really nothing to solve. :)

  • @Tengent fanciful thought but really no way to say you will awaken at any time any where in any form.. I hope though.. but it would be wise to live i feel, lol

  • @chromakey84 What does it matter anyway? There's no way of knowing, really.

  • me one with the world

  • :-) cool hat 

  • mmmmm mono cool hat :)

  • can't wait to watch

  • Sex

  • @TheOMFGYES IS FUN !

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